The President has completed 100 days in office. Based on his performance so far, what grade would you give him?
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The President has completed 100 days in office. Based on his performance so far, what grade would you give him?
The President has completed 100 days in office. Based on his performance so far, what grade would you give him?
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havent seen any change except him running all over the world blaming the U.S.A for everything and anything
To anyone who thinks our leaders (what a joke) are helping America by apologizing to our enemies: Stand up and fight for the America that we are fast losing.
If you are not happy with America, leave - and those who still love her, will stay and fight for her.
Men & women have shed their blood for the rights that are being taken away. Take the "stars" out of your eyes and look what is happening.
Yes, its only been 100 days, but the damage he has done will last for generations unless something is done. Educate yourselves to see exactly what is being thrown at us and make your voices heard.
Amen - this man is out to destroy the USA as we know it. Yes mistakes have been made, but BO and his cronies have done more damage in the first 100 days and are on track to spend more than all the previous presidents before him! I'd gladly run for president but the press nor the media can stand truth! That's why we have an imposter in the White House now.
it was ok for Bush to get us in this mess .but we don't hear that. The man in not a miracle worker. stop gripping and get behind our president.
What did he inherit? I had a job in the oilfield, a good one at that, before November! Now I have been laid off since February and still have not recieved any unemployment! How am I to pay my mortgage without a job? We need jobs HERE!!!!!! I am forced to take my family overseas to work, why do I need to pay on my house here if I don't live here? I belive Obama is out to RUIN this country. QUIT TAKING VACATIONS AROUND THE GLOBE, AND FIX OUR ECONOMY!!!!! CREATE JOBS, NOT BY TAXING THE RICH SO THEY TAKE THEIR COMPANIES OVERSEAS, BUT BY REDUCING TAXES SO MORE STAY IN THE U.S.!!!!!!!!!!!!
What kind of "leader", and I say that lightly, runs around bashing his own country. I am not sorry for Americas success!!!! I am PROUD that we are the standard! I don't rub it in anyones face, but our track record speaks for itself. Whenever a country needs help, who do they turn to? I say its time to worry about ourselves, keeps jobs in the U.S. drill our own resources! Quit being so dependent on other countries!!!!
Obama has been an embarrassment on his apology tour in Europe and the G20 where he got nothing of substance done except to apologize for the USA when it is not warranted nor needed. He is making the USA look weak in the eyes of the world as evidenced by North Korea's missile launch and the nutty leader of Iran stating that he will have a nuclear weapon soon. Then he goes to Latin America and apologizes for America again when no apology was needed nor warranted and pals around with leftist socialist and communist dictators and gives them photos ops with the POTUS that these leaders can use in their countries as propaganda and diminishes the hopes of the oppressed peoples in these countries that wanted to see the USA oppose their doctoral oppressive leaders.
And in the USA Obama is quickly devaluing the dollar with his massive spending programs. In his first 100 days he has spent $400B (Second half of the TARP Bill), signed and approved a so-called stimulus(porkulus) bill for $787B, has sent in a massive budget to the House of Reps in the amount of $410B, and has sent in his spending package for 2010 in the amount of $3.7 Trillion. He is spending more money than all of the Presidents going back to Washington.
Then Obama commits what many are calling near treason in releasing the CIA interrogation memos that showed what we were doing to get information, and before anyone starts nothing done at Gitmo was torture including waterboarding which is not even illegal in the USA. Then he tells our enemies that we will not us harsh interrogations anymore giving our enemies aid and comfort. If I did not know that Obama was the POTUS I would have thought he was a socialist dictator from some banana republic because that is the way he is acting.
Obama gets a big fat 'F' for all the damage he has done to the USA in his first 100 days. I am proud that I served my country to help keep her free but I am not proud of anything Obama has done with the exception of giving the Navy the option to take out the Somali terrorist/pirates.
This is like grading your marriage on your honeymoon.
Bush had the same approval rating his first 100 days.
As a President, he's been very energetic and very articulate. However, as a leader he's left a lot on the table. He's taken his economic, environmental, national security, and foreign affairs cues from the far left and virtually ignored the center and right. His lack of experience has been demonstrated time and time again as he's been led by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, he's been out-maneuvered by the Castro's, Hugo Chavez, and even Kim Jung Il have made him look impotent.
Obama won with 52% of the electorate, most of the members of the Senate and House had equally slim margins. No one has a 'mandate' to recreate the nation in an image that most Americans don't and won't support. The 2008 election was about George Bush more than it was about Obama and McCain, just as the 2000 election was more about Bill Clinton than it was about Bush or Gore.
The Democrats are making fatal errors by over-reaching their 'mandate', I think it will partially be repulsed in 2010 and in 2012 the Republicans may have a similar margin as the Democrats do now. If they can put forth a strong candidate, maybe the federal government can be dismantled before all of us (not just taxpayers) are slaves to the federal debt.
I agree! He continues to spend our money, our childrens' money and our grandchildrens' money all the while blaming the Bush administration so he can push it through. Those who support him are living off the money from the responsible Americans who are paying their own mortgages, aren't living off the welfare system and aren't sitting on their butts collecting unemployment with hopes Obama will continue extending his handouts. He's a wolf in sheep's clothing and though he's politically polished, continues to take away from those who have saved and struggled over the years to build something for their families and future generations, simply so he can give to the parasites that have been living off the government and these good Americans. He's a joke. The president of the most powerful nation in the world bows to Saudi Kings (major faux paux), shakes hands with anti-American nations (even accepting a book accusing the United States of being a neo-colonial bully in the Americas) and invites, with open arms, communist leaders to dialogue. All the while, spending Americans' hard-earned money to bailout cherry-picked companies, who themselves, are hording the money rather than passing it down to the end consumer. Oh Yeah.......we really went up a notch with this guy?!
My #1 concern is health insurance for all Americans. Yes, I support a National Health Care Plan. We still have too many Americans who can't visit a doctor when sick, and this is very alarming to me. Obama seems way to concerned about health care for UAW workers, but that's about it. Also, I completely disagree with the bailout of people who made bad judgements when buying a house. We all make bad financial decisions sometimes. That's just the way it is.
I truly hope to give Obama an "A" in the very near future, however. I think he can make the grade!
Proud Veteran has anyone said thank you lately? Thank you very much for your service to this country, for being a part of keeping me and my family safe over the years. Thank you.
Anyone who thinks the USA never makes mistakes and is all knowing and always right is just an idiot. To not share in the blame which is ours is arrogant, ignorant and divisive. I for one am extremely pleased to have someone in charge with some intelligence and a thought process, instead of promoting the "Fear Factor" with every new policy, sound familiar? We had 8 years of this B.S. To the idiots who scream about non-existant raise in taxes, or refuse to Blame Bush for his many, many mistakes and just waiting for the next 100 days in order to shuffle all blame on Obama, or for those who are insulted that we have a Black man for president...I have just two words Fu&K Y@U!!
Anyone who thinks they can make an objective, accurate, truthful, and definitive statement rating Obama's performance after only three months in office is talking out of their butts. You might like or dislike his decisions so far, but it is way to soon for anything more than that. Besides, with only three months in office, his priorities have been dealing with disasters created by his predecessor.
"Instead of Obamas first 100 Days" we should be calling this the "Post Bush Presidency Disaster Recovery Period."
For those who still have blinders on, tunneled visioned, or too ignorant to listen to media other than the FOX-Rove-Limbaugh Self Destruct Team, there has been a great change. The change Americans want - more jobs at home not overseas, better wages, affordable health care and college costs - will not miraculously happen overnight. The change comes in attitude, patience, and understanding, knowing that someone is working FOR us, and hoping that in time (hopefully soon) our situation will become better.
Unfortunately, Bush's cowboy mentality, do what I say not as I do, unilateralism really ticked other countries off and our current intelligent President knows that the time is ripe for America to be humble and show the world we will work with you to help bring peace and stability. Apologetic is the word right wing nutjobs use to criticize Obama and hopefully nail into simple minds that Obama is weak.
When republicans have a lower popularity poll than Chavez of Venezuela, when the republican party has only very conservative wingnuts left in its party, when the only option republicans feel they have left is to just criticize a democratic president with a 61% approval rating, maybe the republicans should stop shooting themselves in the feet and try to come up with ideas and suggestions to help make the country better instead of looking like the empty headed party of No.
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you summed up the direction our country is heading with the mentality of your last two words! real intelligence! we're really in trouble! this is the generation that voted for our new president, i would assume! why don't you try requesting that this country unite and pray for one another and get back to the grounds this country was founded on? that's one word, GOD! without out him included we are doomed!
Terri - on what authority do you have it that GOD is a "him"???? Please tell me, as I've questioned this for years now and still don't have THE answer.....
Wow - the paid repug Obama-hating bloggers are out in full force today. You folks want to blame Obama for rampant uncontrolled spending? Eight years of Bush bankrupted our country taking a trillion dollar surplus to a 2 trillion dollar deficit. Started an unnecessary war in Iraq through false and manipluted intelligence. Drug our country to the level of barbarianism through approval of torture. Alienated just about the WHOLE damn world against USA policy (fortunately the people of the war dont hate *us* little people, just our KING GWB policies and dictatorship. And you folks want to blame everything on Obama and his first 100 days!
Well you 35% of America are simply *hate-mongering biggots* who still continue to post Hussein Obama in your comments, and NOT BE PATRIOTIC towards our President. You folks were the first to squel about not respecting GWB but turn right around and disrespect Obama. You are miserable people living miserable lives and deserve the filth you wallow in.
Your posts disgust me, your short single-minded hatred disgusts me, and if I knew you people personally you would probably disgust me - NEGATIVE PEOPLE WALLOWING IN NEGATIVISM.... Hey, thats my take, so in your own words, if you dont like what I say, then move to another country - that little petty comment has been so totally used and abused, lets just keep the childishness going...
all he does is spend money and kiss ass over in the middle east.
David, you forgot about the real change that is happening......The fact that we are fast running out of money.......This must have been the change he was talking about. The transition from a rich nation to a poor one.
Pardon, but what mass hypnosis are you following? The Republicans, unfortunately, have lost touch with the American people, hence they lost the election. Additionally, they spend the surplus that Bush inherited from Clinton. Bush alienated world leaders with this foreign policies that consequently did not work. What dream land are you finally coming down from?
HA, Texas has been its own country long before Obama. A colleague came back East with her kids and they had to relearn American history, because the schools only taught Texas history. Texas pledges allegiance to its own flag along with or instead of American Flag. They have been itching for the chance to secede.
I agree...I am getting tired of him being the apologist!
I feel your pain, consider watching other Tv channels besids Fox and listening to other radio talk show host beside Rush.
you people should give obama a break.100 days is not 8 yrs.your bush got you people into this mess.be sure that obama is going to bring you people out of it.
It looks like the voting is, as usual split about even. So much for uniting the nation. I think it laughable that his poor performance reviews are the fault of Limbaugh, Beck and the like. Typical democrat behavior to blame others.
Hey Giuliag, don't be jealous you don't live in Texas :). You should come visit and see why Texans love their state so much. Yes we have to study Texas History here; is there something wrong with that? You are supposed to learn from history, correct? By the way, I pledge allegiance to the US flag. Not everyone wants to secede, although with the way things are going I'm really not surprised it's being talked about.
Big F for Obama and his spending spree! "Bolstering" the economy with tax payer money is a contradiction! Let the tax payers keep their money and spend it the way they need/want. Stop using our hard earned money for socialist agenda!
I still like how it boils down to which party you belong too, I'll say it again for the 40th time, you think all these ivy league politician who've never had to work a day in their life really think they understand what it's like to be an american. Do you think your precious parties especially you dem's since they run for the poor. You really think they are here for you, you think they care about you. And if people don't start getting behind business's, you know those thing that create jobs for ppl to pay their mortgages, it won't matter what our president does.
Eventually the jobs will go away or the money runs out, stablize the middle class's and the mortgages we're losing then you can work on your other plans. Which means business's need help too, and I know its hard for dem's to hear that, since business is the enemy and all.
Maybe ppl don't get this, NY stock exchange, hey dem's you got 401k's???? Want your money back start investing in business's then. Doesn't mean the governement should bail these ppl out, buisness is business, they shouldn't have bailed them out, if they fail another business will take up the slack. Again here's your que dem's why did those business's get bailed out and no one else, hmmm...... Maybe they went to ivy league school with each other. So lets stop this party crap the dem's are out for themselves as much as your repub's. And your precious obama, man I have no @!$%#ing idea what he's doing. Does anyone remember who started this housing mess???? hmmm.........
I have never in my 50 years of life had ever heard of a president put down and criticize American's in the way BO has. He has disgusted me to the extreme. He is not proud to be an American and I doubt he is a real American. I would really like to see his American birth certificate (not Africian). Yes, there are greedy people but those people are all over the world. If you are proud of your president and you say God Bless America you are a liar. You do not support our proud and courageous military as he has no use for them. You would probably spit on them like the hippies did when our Vietnam vets arrived back in the states. Am I PROUD to be an AMERICAN?? YOU BET, I HOLD MY HAND OVER MY HEART WHEN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IS SAID AS WELL AS WHEN THE STAR SPANGLED BANNER IS SANG. Do You??? Oh and he didn't inherit a disaster from President George W. Bush, he inherited all of this from Jimmy Carter as did our past presidents. How much more money can he make when our money holds no value? No other president has helped out the car manufactures. I really don't care if GM and Chrysler go under. Maybe they will learn from their failure. GOD BLESS AMERICA, we are in for a horrible ride.
Some people refuse to criticise America for anything no matter how wrong it is and they call themselves patriots when they are only nationalists. We had a president like that and he set our country up for world wide condemnation. Others are called traitors and told to leave if they point out our country's warts and blemishes, but they are the real patriots because they show the way to a better America. We now have a president who is not afraid to talk about American errors and also not afraid to point out to other nations the errors that they make. He talks plainly and stays calm, and makes no "my way or the highway" Texas cowboy threats. In 100 days the world is starting to look to America again with a smile instead of a frown. He has given hope to us and to them.
The truly sad part about it is that most of the people whom he is hurting still believes he is the 'great deliverer'. I wonder whom they will blame when they finally see the light. Our economy in the toilet, , taxes through the roof, national debt so bad no one in the world will willingly do business with us, third world countries holding controlling interest in all of the major business in this country, terrorism in the streets. BO is very quickly turning this Country into a Socialist Republic. Humm Wonder what will he do next . . . declare martial law, introduce goose stepping, set up concentration camps for people who don't agree with his politics. The whole situation is very, very sad.
I can"t belive people say he UNITED THIS COUNTRY. Look at the poll above, is that united? You are as senile as most the politicians ruining this country!!!!! He has discraced this country from putting our children into debt, to mocking us and appoligizing for succeeding, to commiting treason when he tells other countries about our torture techniques and criticizes those who have protected us from another terrorist attack! Its not our FAULT America is so powerfull, ITS OUR GIFT! Had I of know all you had to be able to do was read a teleprompter to be President, I would have ran ages ago... granted I'm only 29, but hey, you don't even have to be a citizen to run. What is the Constitution again? Obviously half of America skipped history and have no idea why this country was founded!
I also give him an F - we all wanted change - change for the better - I've yet to see a glimmer of better - tax rebates - what can I do with $10.00 more in my paycheck - that I'm going to have to pay tax on next year - I've yet to see anything on the horizon that is going to help me. WAKE UP AMERICA - this idiot will destroy us.
I would love to see what u people would be saying if Obama was a white dude. Most of you are just pissed off that a Black man is running your country. Get over it your life and future is being run by a Black man for the next 4 years. Alex your the only one with enough balls to say what most racist pigs on here are pissed off about a Black man running the great USA.
Its about time someone running the USA was a little humble to other countrys, it long long over due.
How can you think he is making jobs here? Not only are Americans losing jobs at more than four times the rate obama is "creating" them, with his bailout plan there is no restriction to use American companies to get the materials to get the job done!
What change has he made? More than half of his cabinet is from B Clintons cabinet! More than half of the people he has put into cabinet appointments have tax problems! He even put Tax Cheat Tim Geitner in control of the I.R.S.!
He has the most polarized ratings of any President since they have been keeping track of those statistics... Kind of funny I remember him promising to reach across the party lines to find solutions for the problems we are facing... I also remember him promising to have all new legislation online for 5 days prior to it being signed into law! He also got the entire democratic party, and a few republicans to vote for a bill that they hadn't even friggen read...
How can you bow to a Saudi King, and then try to lie about it? I watched the video there is no question in my mind that he bowed! In case you are not familiar with the bowing: A shallow bow, when one lowers his head just below the other mans shoulders is polite and respectful. Where a full bow, when one lowers his head to the other mans belt line is a sign that the man being bowed to is Superior to the man bowing...
Most posts here that are AntiObama are a regurgitation of Fox Hate News et al.
I'm doing a documentary on the subject and know their main talking points:
To anyone who thinks our leaders (what a joke) are helping America by apologizing to our enemies: Stand up and fight for the America that we are fast losing.
1. Hate myth: Obama is running around the world, bowing to world leaders, not doing his job, ignoring America and telling everyone what a bad country we are.
Fact: Obama aoologized in 3 of 28 speeches for Bush's arrogance, not for America or the American people. Very appropriate.
2. Hate myth: We are losing America.
Fact: Conservative policy is loosing it's popularity because it's policies ignited a costly and poorly advised war and aided (unrestrained free market capitalism) a global economic meltdown.
If you are not happy with America, leave - and those who still love her, will stay and fight for her.
Hate myth #3: Only conservatives are patriotic.
Fact: Americans who have studied the facts understand that conservative policy as it has existed, see it is actually dangerous for America, allowing the implosion of our economic system, politicizing the Department of Justice, creating a 3 trillion $ war that gained us very little, breaking Geneva convention. It is patriotic to be informed. In fact, without informed citizens, we will never have a democracy.
David, you forgot about the real change that is happening......The fact that we are fast running out of money.......This must have been the change he was talking about. The transition from a rich nation to a poor one.
Hate myth #4: Obama is spending us into poverty, he has hijacked this nation and turned us to socialism, he is a far left radical with no opposition, so we must all oppose him to keep him form killing this country.
Fact: The spending we disapprove of is perpetrated on us by the economic collapse of 2008. If we had done nothing at all about it, all economists agree, we would be in far worse shape already. Tax cuts can not control global economic catastrophe. Republicans have to yet to devise a plan to rectify the crisis.
There are hundreds of these hate myths circulating among us today, indoctrnaiting many into uninformed, dangerous positions.
In 3 months time, right wing hate media has convinced Americans to support the very party who presided over the economic meltdown.
That is plain and simple proof of the power of bad information and our media's inability to get good information to Americans. If Americans understood the crisis, they would not fall for propaganda. http://salemsage.newsvine.com/_news/2009/03/19/2564585-a-clear-and-logical-explaination-of-the-financial-meltdown
Watch for my documentary ," Rupert Murdock Rules the World", read up, America. And for God's sake - NEVER get your facts from TV or radio only.
Unless the American public becomes informed of fact over dogma, we will never have a Democracy!
Hope Forpeace, we don't live in a democracy. We live in a republic mis-labeled as a democracy.
A democracy is a system where nothing is done without a vote of ALL the people.
We live in a republic, which is a system where the majority vote determines the winner. That winner then does what will benefit the majority fo the population.
As far as your myth debunking, I am just going to address the apologies you referred to. Do you honestly think that Chavez in Venezuela, Kim Jung Il in North Korea and Iran (can't spell his name) deserve apologies? None of them do.
Chavez has been nothing but a thorn in our side spreading rhetoric and propaganda to undermine American interests and efforts in this hemisphere.
Kim Jung Il has flaunted his nuclear program in the face of the rest of the world and in violation of innumerable efforts to get him to cease.
Iran has been proven to support and train Hezbollah and other terrorist groups, works on their nuclear project, threatens shipping with anti ship missiles on their coast, has continually proclaimed the holocaust to be a hoax, etc etc.
If you think our hard stance against those 3 despots deserves an apology then you are seriously misguided. IMHO, each of those three should have received a .50 cal surprise right to the forehead.
Lets see...Bush doubled the debt to 5 trillion, sqandered a 500b surplus and what did American's get in real return? A 780 billion $war. My question is what was the 4.1 trillion spent on...tax cuts for snobby rich folks?
Now Obama wants to spend, but ALL American's will get health care, a new mfg industry will be born (energy), more opportunity through accessable education etc... oh and did I mention you might actually have to have an income to buy a house (some common sense regulation).
qkl
and I'm sure you are one of those that voted for Bush right need I say more in 8 years he has run this country into the ground now its up to Obama to clean up after all you hypocrites
When is the last time you saw any political figure state, local or federal having to cut back on anything; family budget, daily lifestyle or otherwise? That's correct - never. Obama is no different, regardless what your affiliation. Practice and preaching are not separate from one another when you live your own life by values we can all live by and prosper from, and the disconnect of politicians is and has been tearing this country apart at the seams. We built this country not politicians. It is not BUY the people for the people, it is BY the people for the people. Wake up America and take this country back from the crooks who run it in to the ground!! Congress and the President; old and new.
Hope Forpeace = Michael Moore.... Wow, just what we need, another liberal... oops, progressive documentary that tells all of us just how evil the country we live in is. You lost me with your first paragragh. A good documentary should present the facts (not the directors opinions) and let the people draw their own conclusions. What you are making is not a documentary, it is called propaganda.
I thought that there might be some objective conversation here. I'm moving on too people who are at least attempting to communicate positive thoughts and idea's, rather than attempt to sound intellectual and intelligent by trying to post " 'your' Facts". These posted "facts" by the way are refutable. Most of you are indeed speeking from emotion and opinions. Let's travel onward and forward in our thoughts, lets just do for our Country regardless of our Commander in Chief.
To: josephine
You stated a Fact: President Obama has completed 100 days of service not 8yrs.
Josephine in all due respect I will not "give Obama a break". Not now, not ever. President Barack Obama in my opinion would not want a break, though he does want Respect.
Lastly. I applaud President Obama an all past presidents, just for being in the position to even be able to run for President of our United States of America.
I believe that the numbers here speak for themselves. Normally on newsvine, the lazy, jobless radical left are out here, voting in droves and regurgitating their brainwashed lies. But interestingly enough, those voting today are giving BO his just desserts, a failing grade. Mark my word people, this venue will delete all reference to this vote and you won't even be able to find anything about it on the web tomorrow if it doesn't go the way of this liberal owned media - that is, an exemplary grade for the "great one" with blind adoration.
ON THE OTHER HAND, the 100 day mark has got to be the most idiotic thing to analyze OR celebrate. I wouldn't expect anyone to get anything accomplished in Washington these days with all the self serving politicians - republicans and democrats alike. Sadly, the primary reason I grade of "F" is based on my personal situation and the personal sitations of everyone I know in my once prosperous state of Michigan and across the country is WORSE and we're being told BY THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION that it will get worse! Yet, be patient! THIS IS THE PRESIDENT who will make all our dreams of nirvana come true! HORSEHOCKEY!. The writing's on the wall. I'll lose my house by that time, working 2 jobs or not, thanks to this administrations policies and their comfy position in bed with the banking industry. Don't even get me started on how CRIMINAL it was for Obama to fire (or gee, get "credit" for firing) the GM CEO when the government hadn't even taken over the company YET. Now that is REALLY happening and it doesn't scare you all?!?! That IS socialist! There is no other way to describe it! I invite all of you to take a tour of Michigan and look at how your Obama and our radical lib governor has DESTROYED our once prosperous state. If I sound sad and fearful - you bet your a$$ I am. You come here and take a real look and it will make you sick. I beg EVERYONE to vote out all the good old boys & girls come the next election regardless of party.
Another thing: QUIT BLAMING THE AMERICAN PROBLEMS ON THE BUSH AND CLAIMING B.O. INHERITED IT ALL from him! It is such a lame and ignorant argument! If you say some problems were inherited by the last ADMINISTRATION, I might agree on a few things. BECAUSE anyone with any brains here knows dang well that that the ruling Washington politicians during the last 4 years of Bush's presidency WERE DEMOCRATS!!! AND one of those voting us into the current oblivion was your Mr. Wonderful, B.O.! SO! - the FACT is that yes! You are right - sort of! The current decay was caused in part DURING the last administration (not by Bush the man) and what the tax-evading and corrupt Dems the likes of Barney Hairy Frank put into play at that time. (Uh-oh, I'll probably get "collapsed" for that!) The only things B.O. has truly inherited from Bush that he and his band of tax evading cheats choose to destroy, is American pride (not arrogance) and our liberties and freedoms.
Speaking of collapse, regarding these newsvine discussions, someone please tell me why some comments are marked as "collapsed by the community". Funny thing is, most that are collapsed are those who would give the president a "D" - "F". So much for free speech, that the Obama lovers don't realize his administration is about to wipe out. Everyone is so dang PC and afraid to say what they really believe - I'm so sick of it and you are too - you just don't have the guts to speak out about it.
Finally, the double-speak out here is extraordinary! My personal favorite from good ol' about "Bush's cowboy mentality, do what I say not as I do" PLEASE! That was INVENTED by the likes of Pelosi and what's-his-dork who couldn't cut it and be president - who made 10s of millions last year flying around in their gas guzzling private jets and had the NERVE to point fingers of shame and rant on about the global warming MYTH (that's right, I said it, MYTH, and if you sheep would go seek out the real -governmental control - reasons they are determined to brainwash you all, as well as the VERY REPUTABLE scientists who agree that it's myth, you might learn something.)
You must be one of those idiots who voted for Bush, who BTW totally screwed up this country and our perception beyond our shores. Oh, I get it now, you're just pissed off that President Obama is an educated man with the ability to communicate with other intelligent people to make the right decisions to fix our country both here at home and repair our international relationships which are detrimental to the survival of us all!!! So, why don't you just stick your &^%^ing, racist head back in the ground, or up your azz, whichever is more appropriate!
clickit45, your drivle about Dems running the country the last 4 years is laughable. The dems didn't take back congress until 06 leaving htem 2 years of working "with" Bush. What happened the years prior to that with a Bush presidentency and Repug congress? Oh that's right we started a war and turned a surplus into a deficit. Any you claim to be conservative. My ass....
BTW anyone who doesn't think our activities on this Earth is affecting the planets balance related to temperature is not a scientist. That's like Trent Lott saying that lady on life support had brain function without looking at the chart. Idiot.
The president has been in the office ONLY 100 days with all the mess that needed to be clean up. As nation we need to be lot more patient to see what would take place with in first one year, until that time if anyone dos not have better plan that most of our citizen agree with we need to support him. After all we all are in the same mess that we left for.
Hooshang
basedrum, you want to talk about drivel, the Dems did not work with President Bush at all, they were widely known as the part of no. It did not matter what the issue was or if it helped all Americans, the Dems under Reid and Pelosi said no to everything. What the hell are you smoking?
The surplus we had went away after a little thing called 9/11 and the negative impacts that had on our economy. And we had to rebuild our military after eight years of Clinton doing everything he could to destroy it. And you should not be calling other people idiots as it is apparent you are the king idiot. I should not call you an idiot as that is a put down to other leftist idiots.
A bunch of stuff restored [from being collapsed], traffic casualties. Don't report based on disagreement, y'all.
1.30 deleted, alex-1064052 banned, racism, N-words in every post.
1.16 deleted, personal attack - Proud Veteran-1021567, mind #1 of the Code of Honor.
1.36 deleted, josephine-1064012 responding to alex-1064052 with vitriol.
Be civil, folks - a different opinion doesn't justify assaulting someone.
My state is begining to lokk like a ghost town. The mortage crisis is worse then it was. Banks will not help you. What is up with not being able to write off what you give to charaite's any more. He just killed the way that peopel TRY to help with what they can.. Mcain would have been better.
its about time since Bush and his band of hawks screwed up everyhting including the economy
A lot of tax money has gone into the economy and we have yet to see it get any stimulation. We only hear, it is going to get worst. I'm worried, that could be the plan. The government will have no alternative and have to nationalize companies "for the good of the country". This will be done because "we can't let companies fail".
These results are allot different than the poll results that our liberal media has tried to jam down our throats. Over 52% of the people give him a D or F. Hardly the grades of a "popular" President. He has completely ignored the moderates and conservatives of America and has based ALL of his decisions on his liberal friends and agenda.
I'm still hoping for the best from Obama. I'll admit I didn't vote for him, I voted third party, but that's because the two major parties are a joke. But I stilll think he's got a chance at fixing this. What he needs to do is stop giving money to American companies that shove jobs over seas, like GM, stop saying that things are bad and they're probably going to get worse, etc. The economy is reliant on the confidence people have in the government. It seems that even those who are fanatics of Obama really don't have much faith in him given that basic rule of economics. But I digress, he is, inarguably, a very powerfulv speaker, which is one of the key things Bush lacked. If he stops his gloomy outlook on the economy and starts rallying the people together and restoring their confidence then he can fix this. But given the fact that he's wasted more money in 100 days than Bush did in 2008, I'm somewhat doubtful.
the current administration didn't put us in the mess that they are taking the blame for. You republicans need to place the blame where it belongs, on the republican administration which controlled for many years without regulations of the banks as well as Wall Street and created this problem. We finally get a president that cares for the American people and attempts to make an effort to help struggling Americans and this is the type of criticism he gets. The fact of the matter is, if something isn't done now, there won't be a future for our children and grandchildren. People are always so quick to throw children in the mix when they are too stupid to face the realities of today.
So should he go tell the world we are the best and never goof? We arent and we have. All the world is made up of people who are much the same as all of us here at the USA.
I am sick of people like you who can only quote the Fox/repub line. No imagination eh? No thought process of your own! people like you are ants.
The truth hurts that is funny noone is making you stay here go to iran they will love you!!!!
Disapproval Ratings of C, D and F = 58.5% of everyone who's voted - and that's based on 2,667 votes a far bigger cross section of Americans than the standard 1000 responses measured by most polsters.
Amazing how a "real life" unscientific poll gets almost completely polar results of the drive by media. But go ahead, keep thinking that the majority of Americans believe in this change.
I'm with you David and Robin Hood. I'm watching O'Bama now. I want to hear him address the major screw up of Air Force One flying over the Statue of Liberty. He's only thinking of himself in these tough times. Oh...but he didn't know about Air Force One in New York. Wake up people!
Ironic that the neocons didn't complain for eight years while the deficit grew and the country failed. Now that we have a country in crisis, and our new President is trying to do something about it, they complain. Socialist? Simplistic dogma of simple minds. Repeating the talking points of Rush Limbaugh does not instill you with knowledge of what you speak.
Based on what I have seen so far, I give Pres. Obama an F-. My reasons are based in logic. A government has never spent their way out of trouble, ask the Europeans or Japanese. In fact, many in the European Union cautioned Pres. Obama against his spending spree, but he chose to ignore those who have learned from their mistakes. The European community is moving toward capitolism, while we are being pushed into socialism.
No matter how you feel, the economy just shrank by 6.1%. This is not the fault of Pres. Bush. Pres. Obama has spent more than any of the prior Presidents put together. If spending worked, we would all be employed and working 12 hrs. a day 7 days a week.
If you want the government to tell you how to do everything, what to do and when, then you should be pleased with Pres. Obama. He fired my CEO, and is setting my employer up for bankruptcy. GMC is not just a nameless entity, it has people who work there who pay taxes, have mortgages, kids in school and college. We are contributers to the economy, if we can keep our jobs, we will continue to be consumers.
But remember this, the press is in the tank for Pres. Obama. They are not interrested in reporting whole stories, just what they think will make Pres. Obama look good. At his speech tonight, he just called on liberal members of the media, ignoring anyone who would not lob softballs at him, and not allowing follow up questions. That is not a sign of openness.
For those of you who feel (not think) that everyone who speaks against Pres. Obama is a hater, note that I have been respectful, but disagree with his policies. That is something a majority of you cannot say you did during Pres. Bush's term in office.
You cant blame Bush anymore, this is his mess. Unemployment is in double digits, and he keeps trying to through money at a problem when everyone knows government is not the answer but the problem. He needs to pull his head out of his ass. Looks like McCain was right, the presidency does not lend it's self to on the job training.
Give the man a chance, it took 8 years to get where we are today, it may take 8 years to get out of it.
I do see a change - trillions in debt to my children who are just entering college and yet-to-be conceived grandchildren. And a huge focus lately on "torture". Apparently putting water on someone willing to kill thousands of innocent citizens is abhorrent to Obama, but ripping a child from its mother's womb at any point up to live birth is a sacred "right" to be protected. I know everyone says he is so smooth talking - I would call it more like slimy - like a "con" (root word is from "confidence" - someone very good at duping others out of their money) man, out to do the biggest con of all time - destroy America as we have known it!
very true! people are general idiots for voting him in office. the media and this new generation. i cannot believe this mess. it is not bush's mess. he in my opinion had such a tough presidency with 911, and katrina alone. people are mad cause of his decisions and his inability to not be able to wave a magic wand and make all of our problems turn in to rainbows, unicorns and puppy dogs. america is going through tough times no doubt. indtead of buying your granola fueled cars from overseas and shopping on the internet and walmart why not help the mom and pop operations and smaller business that create so many jobs with american people benefiting from them. why not stop sending all of our products overseas and have foreigners finish american made goods. why not invest in america, buy american cause last time i checked our auto industry is in dire need of major bailout. we need to close the borders stop giving amnesty to illegals and provide them with freebies like healthcare drivers ,liscences, and public schooling. why the do i have to pay for them to live and breed. maybe hospitals would stop closing, our gov offices would not be full of cut backs and our teachers can still teach. i am a 34 year old woman who has health care, car insurance, a place to live and i have all of it on my own. im not a stupid person i do not live beyond my means and do not bring children in this world i cannot take care of. i do not expect anything from my government, nothing in this life is free. we as a people need to figure this stuff out and stop -putting bandaids on things, stop taking this country for granted. everybody is waiting for this hope and change that the messiah is supposed to bring. all i see is higher taxes, more spending, fruitless bailouts all coming from a man who has no clue what this country is all about. i am so disgusted in the americans who bad mouth the republican party who bash bush as if they would have done any better. democrats give give give and take take take from all of us hard working productive CITIZENS and hand out to the people in society that are just happy living with nothing. they are a waste of space as far as i am concerned and no business being here in the first place. obama is such an ass. people voted for a celebrity and they got one. they will be begging for the republicans to sort through this mess in 4 years, if we make it that long. God bless America and all the people who have given their lives for what this counrty stands for and may it not have all been in vain!
You are the general idiots for having a small minded petty republican viewpoint! President Obama has given us back the pride in this country that the previous administration took away! He has accomplished more in 100 days than bush/cheney did in 8 horribly disastrous years! They started a way, an unnecessary war, they pandered to big business and the rich at the expense of everyone else, they didn't include the costs of the war in their bogus budgets, they ran up a trillion dollar deficit and bankrupt this country morally and ethically! You people who think that mcsame/palin (the moron) could have done anything to benefit this country are really stupid! Fortunately the "majority" of this country is smarter than you, that's why the republicans are down to 21% and sinking! You people are really clueless and hopeless.
Susanaii----And what exactly do you kool-aid drinkers do, except humm the Obama talking points.
He says transparency and rushes the biggest budget through Congress without anyone reading it.
He says no lobbying and has a whole bunch of them working for him...
He says reach across the isle, but when repubs put out alternatives, he says "the American people voted for change"....
Oh, yes and the famous $400 tax credit for the year...
Gees,,,I feel so much better now,,I can finally pay off all my debt and live carefree...
Face the facts, opinions are one thing,,,but numbers don't lie. The spending is right in front of your face in dollars. You don't need to be an economist to figure out that when you're in debt, you don't spend money...Any 12 yr. old can tell you that.
So plz, come up with something a little more viable.
I guess most people forget that all this debt and joblessness was left by the previous administration. Why don't you point the finger where it belongs, to the criminals that ran the country for the last 8yrs. The only reason this country is not coming together is because people still listen to to ranting of limbaugh and o'reilly. Start thinking for yourselves.
President Obama has more than 70% of the American people behind him, supporting him, and approving his actions during the most difficult first 100 days any President, besides FDR, has ever had to endure. It's you neo-cons who yell the most and screem into political oblivion which is where the conservative GOP is headed. It's you, the rightwingnuts, who will undermine our Country and attempt anything you can to drag her down. Finally your Republican party is disintegrating right before our eyes. Thank God!
So, I suppose you don't want to hear the truth and want Obama to not tell you what needs to be improved so we can be a better country, and yes, our country is not perfect. O.O
Obama is doing a great job based on how many problems our country has faced so far, and plus, its only 100 days, only so much can be done in that amount of time. Compared to W., Obama deserves an A+++.
Sounds like the WHINNY REPUBS don't like Obama any more the the DEMs like BUSH.
Only differents - WE HAVE A GOOD REASON TO HATE BOOOOSH AND CO.!!!
Aren't you all LATE for a TEA PARTY or Something????
Every pole on the Presidents approval rating is a bunch of B.S. Fisherman144 any pole taken now a days is massaged to provide the result that the media wants. I don't know anyone that approves of his policies. Obama said before he was elected that he would use a line item veto to pick through bills and remove the pork before he signed them. Did he do that for the budget that Bush rejected at the end of his term? NOPE! All of the Democrats pushed their pet projects through on that bill and the stimulus package. I Live in Baton Rouge and part of the stimulus is buying the city a helicopter! We don't need a helicopter to patrol the city it's not big enough. Are you kidding me? Is that smart spending? Alternative fuels.... people want ethanol, that comes from corn. Corn prices will rise food prices will rise etc. Them we will have to spend more tax money to people on welfare so they can eat. It's rediculous! His policies suck rotten eggs. They don't look at the long term.
ok, let me get this straight..president clinton left a surplus after 8 years of office..bush came along, blew all of that and then some during his 8 years, besides burning a few international, alliance bridges, and now president obama has to clean that up, and fix the economy , healthcare, education and also, convince the wealthy , who have more money then they could ever spend in 10 lifetimes, that they have to give some back to help out the good old u. s. a. ..which they won't because they're selfish jerks..so here's to those that care, the bill gates, bill clintons and barack obamas of the world..the educated.....the men who can actually pronounce the word "nuclear", and not embarrass us on the national stage..you have the r e a l peoples pledge of support!!! thank you for the 1st hundred days!!!
Yeah, we tried your way for 8 long years. Now it's our turn. And if you give it time, I think you will be surprised how it turns out. Either way, it takes time to realize change.
I really like Obama and I knew ahead about this stimulus package but the rush to get it signed appears to have bailed out who? the crooks who want to squeeze more out of the middle class?
I don't think Obama or his economic team, has the innovation or skills to know where to develop job growth. I am dismayed that all this money went to bailout as opposed to a real stimulus.
It's not his job to hand out jobs but to deliver funds where innovation is needed to make us more efficient, more effective and be more productive. So much of the money was spent on the non-productive parts of our economy - auto, financial (issuing bad loans, turning real estate into a psych-driven marketplace- not sure if just giving these industries money is going to turn out jobs or better products.
does he have a plan for the bailout when future americans have to pay for the loan he took out on our behalf?
he is more concerned about PR and too busy making speeches than doing his job. he doesn't need to "quell" our frustrations - he needs to go back to the drawing board and figure how are we going to recup our money back.
he hasn't changed anything yet. I'm willing to wait to find out how long ti takes for us to make good on our stimulus package.
first he isn't our president because he is not a natural born citizen the fact that his dad was kenyan born in kenya and never a american citizen denounce's his eligibilty to be by the constitution both parents have to be of U.S. citizenship for a child born aboard to be considered a citizen
second it wasn't just bush that got us into this mess it's every administration since woodrow wilson almost a hundred years and ourselve's to blame for not doing anything about it to begin with when woodrow wilson let the world bankers in this country we the people then should have said no when nixion took us off the gold standard we should have said no when nafta and gat were passed we should have said no when government bailout came we should have told them no and said if you do we will remove you from office when we let the current administration start messing in big business and banks and every other facet that it has no right according to the constitution we should have said no so we are just as much to blame but we can still do something about it remove these people from their seats and take our medicine and start over.
I did not vote for Obama because he had no experience. However I did hope he would succeed in bringing our country together and hopefully solving some of our problems. During the election the Democrats slammed Palin for no experience but she was running for vice President. Obama had 2 years in the Senate and the last 18 months were spent on the campaign trail. He is naive at best with zero international experience. This is shown well with the swift rebuff he received from Amadenajhad. Did he really think this man who would thoroughly enjoy the sight of every American dead by his hand or the hands of his countrymen would really sit down with him....very naive. He thinks his 'hollywood smile' and speeches are going to win him friends. These people were hoping he would win because of his lack of experience and the fact he is obviously a whimp. To them he is a joke for his naivety and lack of experience. He will only admit they are a danger to us the day their army marches down Pennsylvania ave...when it is too late.
Obama has apologized to everyone for everything putting ALL the worlds problems in our laps taking blame for everything that is wrong in the world. That is what is an embarrassment. His wife then says that this is the 'first' time she has ever been proud to be American........that is a very sad state of affairs, in her entire life she has never been proud to live here and be an American.........that is NOT the first lady I can get behind nor her husband who apologizes to the world because we are a great country. Putting the blame on all of us for the worlds problems is not the way to earn respect it is the way to making us a laughing stock. The only thing he has accomplished in his 100 days is to give more of our hard earned money to companies that do not deserve it and bash our country from one end of the planet to the other this is a kind of change I don't want.
What's wrong with never being blamed for some of the problems in the world? I suggest you travel outside your litte bubble called America and findout what the world truly thinks of Americans. Not all... but most. Stop being ignorant your not a " perfect " nation. Never will be.
I agree with much of what Brian said (in both posts.) I don't believe however, that if you leave businesses alone everything will be great. There are some greedy crooks running some of those businesses and investments. The problem is that there are also greedy crooks running much of government. The honest hard working American are going to foot the bill either way. I do hate that some believe the democrats are working in their favor. I am independent (mostly conservative) but voted for Obama, only because I vote like I drive a car. If the car starts pulling to far the right you need to turn the wheel the other direction but sure enough it will start veering too far left so we will have to probably turn back the other way again later.
I hope Obama can bring some pride and stability back to America. I doubt it because I think it starts at home and not in the government, but it's what we have ,so please pray for the best and not for failure just because of your party affiliations.
you are absolutly right. he is nothing but a huge wind bag, Jack
Did you see what Robert Gates said he was quite clear. Humble and be respected this is a man that has now served in both parties no wonder why I respect him.
Of course I was a Republican like Specter and I left about 3 years.
Purification and torture sound familar remeber WWII.
Trolls are busy are they not. They dusted off those old poll flooding machines .....LOL Newsvine will learn like all the rest of the online polls and fix it so enjoy it while you can.
The economic mess - courtesy of idiots Carter, Clinton, Dodd, Franks, Raines, etc - everyone should own a home - no credit - no problem - Chris and Barney got it all under control - NOT.
For God's sake, it has only been 100 days, which is 3 months and 10 days.Â
If you people voting an F think you can do any better with of all Obama's inherited messes that he has to clean up, then why don't you run for President and clean everything up.
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Actually if you have been paying any attention, the stock market has gained ground consistently over the past 2 months. Also, consumer confidence has risen which is essential in the economic recovery.
They are likely paid bloggers for the RNC. I mean think about it the presidents approval rating is close to 70% now with Republicans defecting to the Democrats. You think these are genuine people? I would say divide by 3 or four for the actual number of people voting F. The limbidiots and republitards have never been known for a sense of fairness now have they?
He has inherited messes, many because of liberal controls and direction that Bush had to allow to maintain support for the War. Bush blew some things. But O's choices of solutions, and his opportunism to install socialist policies, are what garner the F ratings. He deserves a chance, but so far he is showing himself to be at least as far left as his strongest doubters feared in October. He wants socialist Europe on this side of the pond, as Europe sees economic catastrophe on the horizon, along with the quiet but unmistakable onslaught of Islam thoroughly into European society, while the caucasians continue being politically correct and nicy-nice. Islamist tyranny is just around the corner for them. O comes from S Chicago, where the rank and file, in social struggles, look for wealth and equality to be given to them, and that O is doing. Sure it sounds good, but yer great grand kids will regret these policies. Sure, bush ran up the deficit, but correctly believed that the free market would eventually resolve it. O has a resentment for the free market. He has no idea where the money for his policies can actually come from, but it resounds in the public square to beat up on the rich, while we all aspire to be rich. Eventually the big companies will be taxed out of existence or submitted to O's government's control. Sounds like the Soviet Union to me. I gave him a D, but that was benefit of the doubt.
Your whole socialism routine reveals the truth about you. Its apparent you are not genuine, and weren't going to like Obama regardless. You may as well be Newt Gingrich. Everything you have just stated is verbatim Republican rhetoric repeated by the paid bloggers.
None of us have the finanicial backing from liberal idiots to waste a small fortune running for president.
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We are not all voting F because we think we can do a better job, we voted F because his performance thus far has proven him to be a failure. You don't get to go around the world apologizing for America when we have nothing to apologize for, propose to spend more American citzen hard earned tax dollars on bailouts that are proven failures (as well as a spending budget that coincidently in the first year will spend more of our hardearned money in his first year then any other president in history), give rights to people who have not earned those rights, pretend that the thousands of lives taken during the 9/11 attacks were not due to terrorism, or trample on the Constitution (just to name a few) and expect to get an A! Still not convinced? My suggestion - start with reading the Constitution, then take an economics course, and then pick up any good midline newspaper (as opposed to that left wing nut job one your used to) and read it. There are those of us who are tired of the same old bs and quite frankly if I qualified to run for president (too young) I just might!
I'll just go and do that run for President. Oh wait I can't, I don't have the millions and millions of dollars it takes to run for President. Maybe when the economy isn't headed south any more, I can afford to get the millions out of my mutual fund that isn't worth squat anymore. I at least gave Obama a D, because it is just 100 days into his term.
HUH!! If I had the billions that it takes to buy an election, I would run.
In 100 days Obamination has done more to destroy the Constitution and the futures of our children than any previous president in history. It's time to get the same old Washington politics out and begin to get back to what the founding fathers intended.
I agree. Obama didn t make the mess that we are in, nor was it created overnight. It is going to take some time. America has gotten spoiled and forgets what it is like to tighten their belts for a while until things level out. Its not just the banks, we all have to take some responisibility for the way things are. We all got too complacent. We had a President for 8 years who rarely showed his face so we didn't know what he was doing, and many didn't care as long has they had their big house and SUV. Complain about the stimulous all you want. Just take a look at how much we have spent in Iraq for the past sevaral years in money and in loss of life. Obama will get us through this, I have no doubt about it.
I would run but in my first 100 hundred days most of you would have to go to work and quit taking the handouts that have been your undoing for so long. Enough ticks (parasites) on the dog will so kill the dog. Two problems exist in this world, lack of personal responsibility, and reckless procreation! Obama has done nothing to teach against this, and will go down in history as the worst president of all time, assuming the the U.S. survives his reign. We are in big trouble and need all to wake up, the sunami is coming and it is not about being nice, it is more about being smart and just. All men are created equal just not in the same circumstance. And on a further note, I could at least produce a birth certificate when I run for president. Obama is a fraud and inelligible to even sit in our White House. What were you thinking!
OK- Stop blaming Bush for everything. The way you Dems talk he had more power than GOD and was responsible for everything from world strife to Global Warming. Politicians are politicians. They are all arrogant and tell you what you want to hear then do their own thing. Blaming the fiasco of this administration on Bush will only go so far. The issue here is the current administration has succeeded in only splitting this country. It has been over two hundred years since states mentioned seceding. Our religious freedom, political and economic security, and constitutional rights are in SERIOUS danger. It means absolutely nothing right now that American citizens are born in America since we now have less rights that anybody else who chooses to flee to the Land of Milk and Honey. I will be paying more in taxes until the day I die than everyone who has entered this country illegally and is getting more rights and national benefits the me. I work hard for everything I have and won't have anything to show for it because I have to give everybody else who is lazy, uneducated, non-American, unemployed, etc. a piece of the pie.
I won't blame Obama on everything negative that has happened since his inauguration however, he is getting seriously bad advice from somewhere. I'd like to know who is really running this country. If we don't blame our Commander-in-Chief, who should be trying to protect us Americans instead of hanging us out to dry, then who should we blame. At least Bush never said he was ashamed of us or called us arrogant and he never succeeded in dividing the American population like the Obama administration. All of the people who worship the groudn Obama walks on and every piece of tripe that spills from his mouth needs to buck up on US History and what this country was built on that made it so great to begin with.
Voter Remorse!!! I will not make this mistake in 2012!!! He has proven to be the inexperienced blowhard politician from Illinois that we were warned of.
Inherited mess? When will this excuss stop? Let's remember that the banking problem started several years and administrations ago and came to a head under the last oddminstration. Nobama was at the table when proposing solutions and voted for the TARP and spent the second half of the $750 billion package. So...be honest about his part of this...he's as responsibile as anyone. He is certainly responsible for the additional trillions he's added on top of the TARP and is proposing over the next 10 years. Let's not forget the he and Chris Dodd were the two highest receipients of campaign contributions from AIG...remember the FAKE outrage over the bonuses...PA'LEASE...inherited mess.
Furthermore, the cost of his health care proposal is so under projected that the reality is it could cost us over $500 billion a year when all is said and done. Do you understand that this will represent almost 50% of the federal budget, twice of what it is today? How are we going to pay for this???????? How are we going to afford all of the other services the government needs to provide? More taxes? With what money? Living a a state that uses coal to produce cheap electricity, I expect my electric bill to go up as part of his Cap-and-Trade program? You don't think that's going to get passed through to the consumer?
This guy has is spending trillions of our tax dollars and all we get in return is a lousy $9 every two weeks Social Security relief. At todays gas prices that buys me about 4.5 gallons.
The buck stops in the oval office. The problem is, this guy doesn't know how to stop spending.
Our Telepromter and Chief is turning into a disaster...can we all say..."hi - I'm Jimmy, Jimmy Carter".
Frankly, I've seen enough.
Dave- wake up and look at the dow. 13,000 to a little over 8,000 since Obama took offfice. May I suggest you take a remedial course in basic math...
Wow, legenddp, you need to review the last 200 years to better understand what this country and the Constitution are all about. Actually, it was "W" who did more to destroy the Constitution than any previous president. Unlike in communist and Fascist countries where a group of self-appointed dictators rule people's lives, ours is a nation of "Laws" not people. ALL people have the right not to be locked up without a fair trial backed by concrete evidence. NO ONE is above the law -- not drug dealers, bank robbers, FBI agents, torcherers, Wall Street wonks, grandmothers with guns, terrorists or presidents.
As stated above, Obama inherited the current mess from the previous adminstration that never hesitated to pour our hard-earned tax money into half-baked plans while lining the pockets of their super-rich buddies.
We'd be much better off if the Right wing-nuts (some call them Republicans) would stop defending these criminal activities while toeing the party line and start thinking about the good of the country.
Many have posted its only been 100 days. The damage has been done my fellow Americans. We have a President who was marketed and hyped like a first round draft choice in the NFL. The problem is Obama isn't a football player. He's a community leader and little experienced Jr. Senator for Illinois. His handlers made him out as the great communicator, and new visionary, and one to lead the masses and change the way the world and our enemies feel about us. So what change has really happened? Numerous cabinet nominees were tax evaders, Hmm thats not good, He bailed out underserving Wall St fat cats and gave multi million dollar raises (or retention pay as they were referred as) to AIG. We have a near trillion dollar stimulus package that will cost the US taxpayer 10 trillion dollars in 9 years. Our enemies still hate us, Obama has gained no advantage. The only thing to come out of this Presidency so far is fashion and hype. A comparison to the Kennedy's and Camelot. I am a Conservative and I consider John F Kennedy a great president, but this pre packaged, overhyped, no real qualification, community leader of a president is a complete failure. America keep looking with your starry eyes and believe with all your might that this president is going to lead us to prosperity, make all our enemies love us by extending the olive branch of peace,and go down in history as one of the greatest presidents ever, let me pop your balloon now. He doesn't have the knowledge, or cabinet in place to do so. Enjoy seeing him on fashion magazines, and the talk show circuit. He's very flashy, you can market flashy very well.
Actually, the mess he "inherited" was created by himself and the rest of the congress and senate. He was as much a part of the housing collapse and banking mess as anyone. The only things he inherited were his own messes. Was GW a good president? Doubt it, but he was a patriot that kept this country safe. Far from the socialist we have now who cares less about the country than he does looking good making speeches from a telepromptor.
jtgobama you morom, the Dow was 7,949 on Jan 20th when Obama took office, it's currently 8,181. May I suggest you learn to check your facts before you spout off and look like an idiot
jtgobama - might I suggest you take a remedial course in telling time? The Dow dropped from 13,000 down to as low as 8,000 between June and January.
Obama became President in late January.
Since then, the Dow slowly dropped over Feb to as low as 6,400, and then in March and April steadily climbed back up to 8,000, where it has more or less remained for a month and a half.
My, how quickly one "forgets" the facts... It's revisionist memories like this one that give us Americans such a skewed, one-sided, ignorant view of history.
The jerk didnt inherit anything--HE APPLIED FOR THE JOB,saying he had "a plan" to make things better. The "Community Organizer" (incidentally,wasnt Al Capone a Community Organizer?),has embraced Fidel Castro,Hugo Chavez, disparaged the U.S. in several instances,has had the greatest unemployment figures since Jimmy the Jerk Carter,has caused the greatest budget deficit in history,has appointed the most incompetent jerk available as Homeland Security Director and a tax evader as overseer of the IRS. He also had no knowledge that AirForce 1 was being flown around downtown NYC scarring the hell out of New Yorkers--"all this in only the first 100 days"--G-d have mercy on the USA.
Its been a hundred days and you are wondering what all the fuss is about... now thats funny, scary but funny.
Obama did play a hand in the mess we have today. He helped blocked oversight and more regulation of Freddie Mac and Fanny Mae as soon as he came on the scene. And the people that started this mess in the financial markets were mainly Democrats and few RINO's. Dodd, Franks, Clinton, Johnson, Raines, and other liberals were at the heart of blocking oversight and regulation of F&F going back to when President Bush and conservatives pushed for more oversight and regulation going back to 2001. If the oversight and regulation had went through people who could not afford these houses would never have been able to by them which would have lead to stopping this financial mess before it got started. This lead to the mortgage crisis, credit crisis, and banking crisis, and this is at the foot of these liberals that wanted everyone to own a home no matter if the could afford it or not.
But Obama did vote for all of the spending that gave us the debt we have, so he did not inherit a thing as he was part of the reason we are where we are. And he lied stating that he inherited a $1 Trillion dollar deficit, the deficit spending was $450B when he took office. And if you take away the TARP bill that was created by Paulson, a liberal Democrat, that Bush should never have signed the deficit would only have been $100B. And don't forget Obama spent the second half of the TARP, $400B, and he did not have to spend it, but he did.
He caused a lot of these problems with his votes on bills and laws and now he acts like he had nothing to do with anything and he inherited it all, what a complete liar Hussein Obama is, I wouldn't trust him to water my yard. He is an absolute disgrace to the USA. He spoke like a conservative during the 2008 campaigns most of the time but he has turned out to be a far left socialist, God Save America from the Hussein Obama reign of darkness.
OK- Samdaman. Remember that a few weeks ago the Dept of Homeland Security released a statement that anyone who wants to assume their right to bear arms, believes in border control, and has fought for the US in any war including Iraq is considered a right-wing extremist and a threat to national security. I suppose if you are a bleeding-heart liberal you will agree with HS, which is controlled by Washington which is run mostly by Democrats. You seem to forget that every democratic President we have had since Kennedy, as done more than their fair share of squandering the rights of the American people. I am a Republican but not a HUGE Bush fan. He was a politician. I agreed with some things in his administration and disagreed with just as many. Obama has allowed the bad advice that he is receiving from God knows where to overshadow his own principals. In his first 100 days in office he has succeeded in dividing this country, telling the world that we are arrogant, and joined the bandwagon on destroying our Constitutional rights. I will NOT respect a president, whether he is a Democrat, Republican, or Independant, who tells the world he is ASHAMED of America. If he is so ASHAMED of America, he should not be here. Some ignorant Democrats and some VERY dumb Republicans voted him into office because he was PC. Well, guess what. We are no longer feared and nor respected -which has kept international war from our borders since the Revolutionary War. Now we have to fear not only an attack from our enemies abroad because Obama has turned us BELLY-UP, but now we have to worry about a possible uprising in our own country based on the government's will to control our religious freedoms, political dissent, economic collapse, and the destruction of the US Constitution. In fact, the only POSITIVE thing OBAMA has done is send the firearm industry through the roof. Every place that sells guns, ammo, or the supplies to reload your own is SOLD OUT! What does that tell you about the state of our Union! It tells you that we are no longer a Union but a country that stands divided. And guess what else. When we are attacked (and it will happen) who is going to protect you? Us "Right Wing-nuts!" You better hope that you have one living near you or you are on your own because our current GOVERNMENT believes that we are Arrogant, Ignorant, and Extremists and is afraid that it might look bad to our enimies.
Huh,
Well, no, I know I couldn't do any better than Obama. At least not at the measly salary of 400K, I mean who can live on that?
Anyway, Obama ran for office, he was elected (I didn't vote for him), so absolutely yes I can grade his performance at any point I want to!
Liberals will continue to deny that their party created the mess that Obama is claiming to have inherited.
The Banking and Credit crisis lays at the feet of the Democrat party, observant americans know this, Liberals deny it.
Unions and stupid environmental dictates killed the Big 3, observant americans know this, Liberals deny it.
Energy independence is a joke if we don't develop our own petroleum resources, wind power doesn't work nor does solar when it comes to meeting our energy demand, observant americans know this, Liberals stand in the way and deny this.
People don't want to drive little pop can cars, observant americans know this, Liberals deny this and mandate stupid economy standards that killed the Big 3.
Obama is turning america into a 3rd world country, observant americans know this, Liberals support it and long for it.
Okay I've been reading all these posts by obvious Republicans or conservatives or whatever these people think they are. I and probably alot of other people just feel sorry for you all. You are sad and frustrated and very, very wrong. Quite frankly, if you don't like this ride, you should just get off now. Change is coming...it's long overdue. The American people deserve better than they've gotten in the last 30 years. The Republicans, starting with Reagan have put the interests of the wealthy and powerful ahead of the average middle class American and we are now reaping the consequences of that. President Obama is trying to bring a level of balance and fairness back to the country and in the process try to save the middle class which is on the verge of extinction. So all you "I've Got Mine" types shut up...no one is listening to you or your wants, needs and desires anymore.
I'm amazed at the international apology and self blame game he has put on for the world. He doesnt stand up for his own country? I mean dang, he threw his own White House Military office head on the sword for the Air Force One bombing run over Manhattan. He didnt know, give me a break! He crucifies his own people for his administration's mistakes. The facts are simple, we dont know what the man really thinks. All of the brilliant rhetoric he speaks comes from the almighty teleprompters.
OK- Samdaman. Remember that a few weeks ago the Dept of Homeland Security released a statement that anyone who wants to assume their right to bear arms, believes in border control, and has fought for the US in any war including Iraq is considered a right-wing extremist and a threat to national security.
The above statement is NUTS. Just part of the Right wing conspiracy gear mongers who want to govern by fear.
Obama has allowed the bad advice that he is receiving from God knows where to overshadow his own principals. In his first 100 days in office he has succeeded in dividing this country, telling the world that we are arrogant, and joined the bandwagon on destroying our Constitutional rights.
Again! you are quoting from the the right wing fear mongering bible. His approval rating is very high compared to just about any President in my lifetime.
I will NOT respect a president, whether he is a Democrat, Republican, or Independant, who tells the world he is ASHAMED of America. If he is so ASHAMED of America, he should not be here.
Wow! right out of the right wing talking points bible. Obama isn't ashamed of America. As I stated in another post, he is ashamed of the fact the America has been led down a destructive path and is proud to announce that America will return to the policies that have take us 200 years to build and only 8 years to tear down.
Some ignorant Democrats and some VERY dumb Republicans voted him into office because he was PC. Well, guess what. We are no longer feared and nor respected -which has kept international war from our borders since the Revolutionary War.
I'll accept the fact that we have lost respect. The reason we have been so successful as a leader in the world is due to respect not fear.
... now we have to worry about a possible uprising in our own country based on the government's will to control our religious freedoms, political dissent, economic collapse, and the destruction of the US Constitution.
Over the last 8 years we have been bullied into accepting that America is founded on only one religion. I'm happy to report that the rest of us count too. Now that is religious freedom!
... When we are attacked (and it will happen) who is going to protect you? Us "Right Wing-nuts!" You better hope that you have one living near you or you are on your own because our current GOVERNMENT believes that we are Arrogant, Ignorant, and Extremists and is afraid that it might look bad to our enimies.
A government ruled by vigilantyism and fear is not my country. It is a nation divided and lost.
It is truly amazing how supposedly intellegent people can be so incredibly stupid. All I see here is the 21% ers keep mouthing the rw talking points without checking them out or ANY verification whatsoever. Really sad. Its one thing to engage in honest debate, but all but impossible to do when you people continue to parrot and spew the rw lies. You, captain "marvelous" are the worst at doing this. You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you in the ass!
The MAJORITY in this country are quite willing to give the President a chance at reversing the last 8 years if bush & co destructive policies toward the middle class.
laurie, what are you smoking, must be something illegal and hallucinogenic? The middle class has prospered hugely over the last thirty years and today a poor person in America is determined by how many TV's and cars they own. And the Bush tax cuts gave the lowest federal tax rate a 100% tax cut from 10% to 0%. Here is how the Bush Tax cuts break down, the lowest federal income tax bracket went from 10% to 0%, that is a 100% tax cut for the lowest earners, i.e. the poor. The next lowest tax bracket dropped from 15% to 10%, a 33% tax cut also for the so-called poor. The next tax brackets at 28% and 31% were cut to 25%, for a 15% tax cut for the middle class. And the highest tax brackets at 36% and 39.6% were cut to 33%, for a 12% tax cut for the hardest working and highest earning Americans, i.e. the so-called rich. So just by look at the data it is easy to see that the poor got the biggest tax cuts from President Bush, not the so-called rich as that is what liberals have been running around lying about for the last eight years. You really have no clue about economics, just like Hussein Obama, completely clueless and full of lies as well as being one of those class warfare low-life's. So go take an economics class, perhaps you will learn something, but I doubt it.
Laure-480643,
You must not have had anything to begin with not to resent the fact that those of us who didn't have alot but WORKED for it now have to share what we have WORKED for. You know, I did not get a college scholarship based upon low income, because my family was middle class and we made too much money..$30K/yr for a family of 4. My family was never on welfare because when finances became strained we all got jobs and contributed to the family income. We did not wait with our hands out for the government to bail us out. We WORKED for it! Yeah. I am one of those "I've Got Mine" that you are referring to. I resent paying for others' health care, welfare, homes, etc. when I drive by the neighborhoods that these people live in and see them all sitting around with their "forties" chatting with their peeps when they could get a JOB and support themselves. This reference includes people from every walk of life who take advantage and think they have the RIGHT to a free ride based on the fact that they were not born with a silver spoon in their mouths. My Daddy served in the armed forces until I graduated high school and we ALWAYS had to struggle to make ends meet. Now you have a new administration that wants to take what was once the greatest nation in the world and turn it into a Socialist crap-hole. Obviously there are those who are listening and care or there would not be a discussion. As of last year- before Obamination, we had the right to freedom of speech. Of course it has ONLY been 100 days. That may change as well. Good luck with your views. I hope they sustain you when none of us, including you, have a pot to pee in because our idiot president has decided to spread the wealth.
Here, here. Everyone expects miracles but don't realize that Bush and his party ran the country to the ground. The Democrats are here to clean it up for EVERYONE. The Party of NO please step aside as the party of choice tries to include you in all the vital policies that the country holds dear.
Guns and Bibles - ***Obama has tanked the stock market**** ummmmm you need to go back and look at the figures, since Obama has been in the stock market has recovered to a large degree. GWB tanked the economy... get a life and get honest with yourself and others! Your facts are just plain WRONG...
I am running in the next election
under the JAWS party---just avg. working stiffs.
Every president has inherited a mess, Bush got the Bin Laden mess compliments of Clinton. The pirates from Somalia are Bill Clinton's mess from the cut and run of Black Hawk Down. Reagan inherited Jimmy Carter's crap and so on and so on.
They just didn't blame it on everyone else like this administration. That's why I gave him an F.
My vote will change when he starts taking responsibility for what he has done, and actually do something he takes credit for.
He has only inherited the messes he and most of his administration helped to create.
Everyone else has been judged within the same time frame...that's why they refer to it as the first 100 days.
The Great One is the one taunting the 100-day timeline. So we're voting on how he's done up to that point. In my book it's a big fat F! He's still a teleprompter-reading Community Organizer that's never even run a business and now he's letting Pelosi/Reid/Frank, etc. dictate to him. He's spending our money like crazy (without even reading the Porkulus Bill) and still no credit; still losing jobs; still losing homes; still losing 401Ks. He's done nothing but pathetically apologize for our country (must have learned something from Rev. Wright about how bad we are!) and is leading us to Socialism. The promised amnesty will be the final nail in the employment coffin. He's inept and has earned his F. I'm open to change, but not this type of change!
you are so blinded to the fact that obama is alot more bad off then bush at least bush didn't release all those files for the terrist to get there hands on . it's not right for them to try to file charges on the bush administration that ok cause it's going to come back on them. people are so blinded that obama is doing a good job. not so
You have no idea what you are talking about. We have spent more than we will ever be able to pay back. Liberals are not looking at the big picture while too far up the teleprompter backend of our "Savior."
Nice fly by, by the way! Government money at work. Make sure to get the photo ops!
Obama does not have a clue. He is spending money that the unborn will have to pay.
the question why isn't he doing better--he flip flops on important issues, appoints non tax paying people to his cabinet, has a home land security advisor who thinks the men we send to war are one of our greatest risks when they return home after serving out country in a poor war, continuing a war that we should never have gotten into, continuing to send troops, was not able to get any concessions at all from the Europeans after telling them what a bad country the USA is --did not convince them to send troops to "our war", did not convince them to do a like "bail out". He an OJT president and his learning curve is flat so far, if he doesn't get a "J" curve soon, we are doomed.
Bailing out Wall Street. Done Zippo for Main Street. What a complete joke so far!
One positive aspect of this is no one could do much worse. What you don't understand is that in too days he has just about destroyed the US.
I agree with you. It took Bush 8 years to put us in this mess. For those of you guys who voted F, please give him a chance. You can not expect this economy will be fix in 100 days.
Seriously???
In just 3 short months he alone has succeeded in tripling the national debt.
Great success... NOT!
How much longer are you going to give this lame excuse? He ownes it and is making it worse.
I gave him a D and I thought I was being generous.
The man is a puppet of much more powerful string pullers. However his charisma has been the weapon used against many citizens of our nation to advance an agenda.
The man is no different that Bush. A talking head.
I, too, am a Community Organizer. I can assure you I can do much, much better. You are brainwashed my dear by a press that doesn't know it's dead. It is dead because subscribers are cancelling their subscriptions -- they don't want to read the garbage and refuse to be brain washed.
A Proud Naturalized American Citizen! (You can prove where I was born, can't prove where Obama was born!)
This is the worst piece of @!$%# president we ever had. We need to impeach him before were all in welfair lines. Obummer sucks. I wish he would resign, and save the country
So Huh?????
You admit he is doing a lousy job, and now you're looking for someone who can do a better job. 100 days of failure, and yet the only encouragement you have for Obama is to say that he inherited a mess. Well, he's made it much worse in 100 days. I hope he can get better, because he has failed so far.
You have a point regarding the time frame however, don't promise if you can't follow through. He has been spending money like it's nothing and making poor decisions on where it's to be spent. The American people are hurting right now and all I can see is that he has started digging our graves and just waiting to bury us. We need help getting the economy turned around not help in making it worse.
Everyone is saying, Democrats, that President Bush doubled the National debt in 8 years but your Messiah has made the debt four times its previous size in 62 days. You can't print money to fix problems because all that does is further devalue our dollar and make the problems worse. On top of that we now have tax cheats in charge of our highest offices in the country that have the "Do as I say not as I do " attitude. I feel the grass roots movement I have heard of called RENO might be the answer to many of our problems. RE ELECT NO ONE for the next 8 to 10 years. Also, we need to pass into law that you may run under whatever party affilliation you wish, but when elected, you are no longer Democrat or Republican, you are now a SERVANT of the people and if you don't do your job, we will vote you out and put a TRUE servant in office. We really need Statesmen in office NOT politician's. All politicians do is line their pockets and bow down to lobbyists. As a matter of FACT, our Congress has pretty much maintained a 92% reelection rating but has only a 10% approval rating. Why? Because Americans only vote by name recognition and are very ignorant of what is actually going on in our country.
Commen Sense tells you he deserves an F he has no clue what he is doing and everyone should stop and think who is actually making all these wrong decisions. You might be happy to be in debt up to your a** but I'm not and I feel sorry for my children. I have been a democrate all my life and now my commen sense is telling me WAKE UP!!!!! They want you to think one thing but what actually is going on. If anyone out there thinks the government is going to give you a hand out for nothing, please think again there is always a price to pay and are you willing to pay that price. I'm not!!!!! We the people need to stand up and take no more of this crap Obama is sending our way. For those of you who gave Obama an A hope your conscience will withstand another 9/11. My won't!!!!!!
Amen to that!! What is up with all these righties? They seem a little upset that the Cheney....er I mean Bush admin's policies being deleted one by one, which is as it should be. And after 100 days.....I would like to see any of the little sour grapes righties do better. Look at all the republicans that have suddenly backed away from any support for the 'other' evil side or immediately shut up for some reason. I wonder who's pulling the secret strings. And they are all SOOO indignant about losing. But I guess they can consider themselves lucky to have people like in Minnesota with that Michelle idiot Bachman on thier side along with the all the sour grapes losers, like Coleman, who just can't grasp that he has lost.
I wouldn't be spending money like a drunken sailor....giving terrorists their freedom to attack this country again and equal rights under OUR constitution, having a cabinet member who puts our armed forces members on 'watch lists' because of their skills, give illegal immigrants all the status afforded to US citizens and allow them to drain Social Security, which I have paid into for the last 40 years so that I can retire (which I can't now because of the democraps)....OPEN YOUR EYES......THE WRONG MAN IS SITTING IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
OH PUHLEEEZE! Isn't that easy comment to make "If you think you can do any better, then why don't we run for President". I do agree that each President has to clean up what the President before has done... but that's not the issue with Obama. In his 100 days of being in office, he has managed to put our nation in more debt than any US President from beginning until now... combined. Think on that one for a bit!
Then to top it all off, the Thursday before Palm Sunday... managed to hand over the US to Europe! We are no longer a democracy.. we have slid right into socialism (which is one step before communism). WAKE UP AMERICA! Impeach Obama before he completely tears this country apart.
Do you realize that the condition our economy is in right now is the same exact condition that Europe was in when the Holocaust took place. We continue to nose dive and spiral downward. Our nation is head for trouble.
Obama led everyone to believe that he was the upcoming hero of our time and that he was gonna do things BUT he has failed and Americans were deceived into voting him into office.
Some more interesting facts that are going on right now that you better look into.. because what you don't know can absolutely hurt you:
Did you know that they will be voting on whether or not you will be able to grow your own produce and provide food for yourselves. This bill is HR 875
You may find this interesting as well… did you know that in the US we have concentration camps. This was brought to public eye when Katrina hit in 2006. A so called test run to see if it FEMA could actually do it. They did. The gov’t is preparing for martial law. REX 84 (FEMA)
What about the G20 Summit – where the gov’t is pushing for a 1 world currency…
Okay, here’s one more you might have an interest in. It’s called 501 c3 The bill that has to do with being tax exempt for non-profit organizations. It changes the verbiage to government subsidized…
Most of what hes supposedly cleaning up, are things he had the power to stop beforehand. It was he and other democrats that allowed the housing bust. Both Bush and Mccain tried to stop it. The Democratic congress made it happen.. Wake up man!
Okay. Here we go. Even Todd can't report the truth if his life depended on it. His remark of Obama being a "Leader" holds no water. Take a look at the F's. The in-beween votes don't show signs of leadership.
I believe that Charlie Brown can run this country better than Obama. Obama says one thing and goes totally left. And He need a teleprompter to help him run the country? Like I said, Charlie Brown can be a better job running our country!
It's not a matter of doing a better job but he was part of the mess to began with he was a sentor from Ill and was in office so yes he knew what he was getting into... he had no business giving so much money to companies that were going down and there should have been a stop somewhere.... And by the way what ever happened to him producing his birth certificate....
I might have more confidence in him if he wasn't doling money out left and right to people that have mismanaged money to begin with, that used the same money HIS administration gave them without enough restrictions on, who turned around and gave their "valuable" execs a big pay raise. Politicians are getting HUGE raises, while the working class are getting pay CUTS, just to preserve JOBS for co-workers. And apologize for the US???? HMMM, is he an American or a wolf in sheeps clothing pretending?
Guess you'll be saying the same thing in 365 days. That' the Democratic way of not accepting FACTS.
This is a ridiculous poll. To judge a man in only 100 days is ridiculous, considering the profound problems the Bush administration bequeathed to this country. Obviously, the people who gave him an 'F' are the disgruntled Bush/McCain/Palin crowd, and we know how vitriolic they are. Judging by their comments, some of them downright racist, nothing this man would do would please them, short of falling on a sword.
Most Republicans don't care to consider the facts, Obama has done a great job his first 100. Fortunately they are no longer in power!
Guns and bible says Obama has tanked the market. Is he/she nor aware the market has increased under Obama after Bush-created decreases. These idiots must stop listening to their idol Limbaugh. Or is it Jabba the Hut?
My criticism is not because the economy hasn't turned yet. Obviously he has not been in office long enough for any results to be evident. I just feel that his policies will harm the economy further. You cannot spur sustained economic growth by running huge federal deficits indefinitly and sucking the air out of any potential recovery. High taxes and huge deficits is not the prescription for sustained economic growth. Though I didn't vote for him, I felt he would propose more responsible policies and not use the economy for social engineering.
Most posts here that are AntiObama are a regurgitation of Fox Hate News et al.
I'm doing a documentary on the subject and know their main talking points:
To anyone who thinks our leaders (what a joke) are helping America by apologizing to our enemies: Stand up and fight for the America that we are fast losing.
1. Hate myth: Obama is running around the world, bowing to world leaders, not doing his job, ignoring America and telling everyone what a bad country we are.
Fact: Obama aoologized in 3 of 28 speeches for Bush's arrogance, not for America or the American people. Very appropriate.
2. Hate myth: We are losing America.
Fact: Conservative policy is loosing it's popularity because it's policies ignited a costly and poorly advised war and aided (unrestrained free market capitalism) a global economic meltdown.
If you are not happy with America, leave - and those who still love her, will stay and fight for her.
Hate myth #3: Only conservatives are patriotic.
Fact: Americans who have studied the facts understand that conservative policy as it has existed, see it is actually dangerous for America, allowing the implosion of our economic system, politicizing the Department of Justice, creating a 3 trillion $ war that gained us very little, breaking Geneva convention. It is patriotic to be informed. In fact, without informed citizens, we will never have a democracy.
David, you forgot about the real change that is happening......The fact that we are fast running out of money.......This must have been the change he was talking about. The transition from a rich nation to a poor one.
Hate myth #4: Obama is spending us into poverty, he has hijacked this nation and turned us to socialism, he is a far left radical with no opposition, so we must all oppose him to keep him form killing this country.
Fact: The spending we disapprove of is perpetrated on us by the economic collapse of 2008. If we had done nothing at all about it, all economists agree, we would be in far worse shape already. Tax cuts can not control global economic catastrophe. Republicans have to yet to devise a plan to rectify the crisis.
There are hundreds of these hate myths circulating among us today, indoctrnaiting many into uninformed, dangerous positions.
In 3 months time, right wing hate media has convinced Americans to support the very party who presided over the economic meltdown.
That is plain and simple proof of the power of bad information and our media's inability to get good information to Americans. If Americans understood the crisis, they would not fall for propaganda. http://salemsage.newsvine.com/_news/2009/03/19/2564585-a-clear-and-logical-explaination-of-the-financial-meltdown
Watch for my documentary ," Rupert Murdock Rules the World", read up, America. And for God's sake - NEVER get your facts from TV or radio only.
Unless the American public becomes informed of fact over dogma, we will never have a Democracy!
Using the same line of reasoning the people who gave him an "A" are most likely , municipal, state, fed workers and all the other people who feed off the sytstem.
because "WE" will make you own up to you own screw-ups ! !
If you people voting an F think you can do any better with of all Obama's inherited messes that he has to clean up, then why don't you run for President and clean everything up.
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This Getto PIMP is making the MESS of the century! Though Jimmuh Caata is very happy cause he won't be the worst prez in history anymore. OBUTTMA U SUCK!!!
I hope we as a Nation do not regret voting Obama in but I have noticed first thing is the gun rights come June we will see It is not the guns that do the crime it is the people using them. Bad people will find a way to get them and honest people will suffer. HITLER did the same thing and look what happened........ LORD HELP US ALL You people talk about the spending heck Obama is spending in the trilons who has to pay it WE DO. I also think all these senate, congress people should have to fly just like we do not private planes with our $$$$$$. My parents are elderly and live on a fixed income. The programs that were available to help pay for medication isn't there now. WHERE IS IT? MOST OF OUR POLITITIONS OPEN THERE MOUTHS AND LIES COME OUT, PROMISES THAT ARE NEVER KEPT. I DON'T THINK HE IS DOING ANYTHING GREAT EXCEPT FOR THE MORE WEALTHY. WHAT HAPPENED TO GETTING OUT OF IRAQ? HE IS SENDING MORE TROOPS IN ACTIVATING MORE RESERVISISTS INCLUDING MY DAUGHTER AGAIN. SECOND TIME FOR HER TO BE ACTIVATED. SHE IS NOT COMPLAING ABOUT GOING CAUSE THAT IS WHAT SHE CHOSE BUT WHEN WILL HE KEEP HIS WORD ABOUT CUT BACKS? HE CAN AT LEAST SPEEK.....
He is not coming to clean up as you said, but to add on to the mess.
I agree. You can't fix a mess created over years and years in 100 days. I believe he has made steps that no other president has. Obviously some people are just sounding off without really doing their homework. I would love to hear how they would begin to fix this mess and keep everyone happy. It's a process people!!!!!!
Everyone wants to continue say this mess is all Bush fault sorry he is not the only one and Dems have had control of the house and senate for the last 4 years too. This mess is can be contributed to everyone no matter party affiliation. Sorry but if you want your gov't to do everything for you give you money for not producing than I am sure him and nancy (speaker of the house) have an A grade but if you want to work and be productive and pay taxes (which some in the current cabinet seem to have a problem with or did at one point and time ) then I would say the way that washington as a whole should get a grade of F for the last 8 years oh by the way Obama, Nancy, Bush, Cheney, Spector they are all the same they want your tax dollers and give it to someone or business who is not producing nothing. Sorry I rather I can live with myself if all I did for 8 hours a day was watch tv sit on my couch and wait for my check from the government so I can go out and drink myself to a druken state and pass out and do it again tomorrow. The message in washington is we want all your money and in turn give away for nothin. When the government starts giving you everything and control what you can buy and sell and what Doctor you can and can not see thats not freedom that at best is a form of slavery, at worst this contry becomes like Russia and china
I agree I think he is doing agreat job considering the mess he came in to in the first place
He sent me a letter from social security I am getting money from him I voted an B
number 1 i am not a crook and that is one of the requirements of a good politician,a good liar i am not a rich lawyer and i am too honest for washington but believe me if given the chance i would clean up this mess and that crap going in pakistan and the desert sand box called iraq i can see you are a liberal!!!
i think most people that are giving the F arent actually looking at the mess that he was left with.. they are more or less taking the promises that he made while running for the president and evaluating how many of them he has backdown on..but the argument that he inherited a mess is really not something that people should use to justify his actions.. to me its more relevent to discuss how once more a politician did what politicians do best and thats tell us what we want to hear and do the exact opposite..maybe im wrong but thats what it looks like...and as always any one who gives a grade to this or anyother president should always think about how they would act in the situation..so at this time it is best to let time take it course and like the Trojan commersial says.. "Ride it out together".. ohh and to all that sound like there just blowing steam out of there a$$ stop.. your making AMERICA look bad..
well done..besides half the idioits voting dont even know what their talking about just to give a bad vote. ugggh ignorance is indeed contagious
The problem as I see it is that Obama has inherited a lot of messes but he is leading the country away from the founding principles established by our founding fathers. The reslut will be even more messes to clean up. I do not believe that he is an honest man even though he presents himself as such. Obviously, the things that he espouses are not something that he holds near and dear in his heart because he cannot speak off the cuff...he must use a teleprompter for everything that he says. That is not the sign of a sincere individual and I don't trust him at all.
The Dems have had control of the Senate and the Congress for 2 years prior to the election otf the savior Obama.
What has been done with there leadership??
In a word, NOTHING.
So, with that lead in I will give Obama no slack 100 days or not.
Right or wrong was Bush given any slack??
But he did keep us safe and any cost.
Never forget 9/11, I was there and have to live with those thoughts
everyday.
I think Obama is doing a great job. I didn't see anyone complaining when Bush came with his stimulus plan and spent billions of your grandparents, as a fact some or your money too, before he left. I guess that was Ok because he cut you a check! Be for real, we all know you have to spent money to make money.
One positive aspect of this is no one could do much worse. What you don't understand is that in too days he has just about destroyed the US.
I just feel that his policies will harm the economy further. You cannot spur sustained economic growth by running huge federal deficits indefinitly and sucking the air out of any potential recovery.
It was he and other democrats that allowed the housing bust.
I wouldn't be spending money like a drunken sailor....giving terrorists their freedom to attack this country again and equal rights under OUR constitution,
This is the worst piece of @!$%# president we ever had. We need to impeach him before were all in welfair lines. Obummer sucks. I wish he would resign, and save the country.
I believe that Charlie Brown can run this country better than Obama. Obama says one thing and goes totally left. And He need a teleprompter to help him run the country?
Do you realize that the condition our economy is in right now is the same exact condition that Europe was in when the Holocaust took place. We continue to nose dive and spiral downward. Our nation is head for trouble.
I could go on and on - can you see it? Blaming Obama for a crisis the rest of all know was complete by 2008. Not even allowing the notion that Bush or his policies have anything to do with out current economic crisis.
Hate myth: See how bad the economy is, can't you see what a bad president we have?
Fact: Over the past 5 years American companies set up a house of cards connected to housing prices. They all know they would fall, and so would America, they didn't care. They got rich, we get poor.
Saying this happened in the past 3 months is like saying the sun is a lollypop. It is absulotulty silly. It makes the rest of us wonder what to do about terribly uninformed voters. I have dedicated my life full time to rectifying the situation with education.
It is a dire truth that someone even has the handle: guns and bibles for me! What IS clear is a war of hate media is raging in this country to the point that Christians are ready to load up their guns. THAT is POWER! THAT is Danger!!!!!!
It was he and other democrats that allowed the housing bust.
This is a big one. In fact - Fannie and Freddie were the only REGULATED lenders. All OTHER lenders were unregulated. The argument that Republicans tried to save the economy by regulating the only already regulated lender, while ignoring unregulated lenders and American companies who were writing $60 trillion in swaps contracts for which they had no reserves, is obviously silly once examined.
Just like every hate myth I have yet found.
Years from now he will still be blaming Bush! When does BO have the guts to take responsibility and own the disaster he is bringing this country? He is sooooo in over his head and dosen't have a clue!!!!
The Reactionary, Reich-wing Redneck and Religious-Reich Whites Only Theocracy Party, formerly known as the GOP, still has its followers - the same brainwashed people that are willing to follow anyone as long as their limited world view isn't upset by that person. For those people, it is still the 16th Century.
However, most people here in the US are living in the 21st Century, and are looking to a President that will work with the current thinking of most people, and maybe even get ahead of that curve, and just may end up making the US a place to be proud of once again, as well as a place others in the World can look to for inspiration.
A Mr Norman Thomas who past away awhile back stated I am a socialist and I have been running for president for many years. I don't have too run anymore because the democratic party has taken on all our issues. So this country will be socialist with out a socialist running. That is what is happening here in the United States. Big government is not the answer. it never was , just look at all the other country that government has taken over. It Just doesn't work.
OK, I can do better than BO, along with 99% of the conservative segment of the population. You would have to be a complete numbskull to do as badly as Hussein, the first non-citizen president .
If only we could run for office and get him out of there.
I find it funny that people are criticizing those who give him an F, even funnier (or sadder) is that some are actually giving him an A as if he's done anything but spend, spend, spend, and spend some more. We're grading his first 100 days, it's like taking a quiz. So far, he's failing, so he deserves an F. The country has money problems and he's spending more as if it grows on trees. If your business is failing, do you just spend more? Of course not, that would be idiotic, and so is what he's doing. Of course, I don't think President Obama has ever run a business, so perhaps it's expecting to much for him to understand such a simple concept.
(in response to: HUH????)
It's what he HAS DONE, not what he has yet to do. He is fast-tracking us to a socialistic society, devalued the dollar, spend billions and bilions, broken campaign promises, made a great photo op for Hugo Chavez, proposes to reduce benefits to injured vets, and the Government now owns AIG, GE, and nearly GM.
All in 100 days.
Bravo.
He cannot undo in a day what others have screwed up over the years. Give him a chance.
oh my god! the inherient mess. i could say the same thing about every democrat who has been in office. obama will do nothing, as we can see already. raise taxes, bailout companies who are corrupt. no need to help middle calss america, the backbone of our country. mom and pop shops cant compete with big business. so lets just raise cigarette taxes to pay for the uninsured, lets keep all of out teachers employed to teach the illegals, and make sure the dmv is open so all the people who do absolutley nothing can be employed. america owes nothing to anybody. life is not free. working hard is something we all have to do. so why dont you all keep your fingers crossed and hope for the best, while the rest of us actually pay our own ways.
Please remember that the "Messes" you speak of were created by the democratic controlled congress.. All that happened on January 21st is that any chance to slow down the spending is now gone.
Another far left bleeding heart liberal , as i said in my comment. The federal goverment can't manage a simple retirement program, IE: Social Security, its bankrupt ( just about). You think he can take contolling interest in Citibank, and general Motors and be successfull, at the same time that he is trying to socialize our medical system, which is a massive undertaking.What are you thinking about? It's frieghtining how naive so many Americans can be and you certainly are a scary individule.
I would love to be President and clean up this mess.First you need to begin with Washington and their absurd salaries and even more absurd benifits. Do Senators and Congressmen pay for their Health Care? Do they buy and drive there own cars and pay for gas? Do they care about our money used for PORK projects?Few people would vote for me because I adamently believe in the Constitution,I believe in God,and I am against all types of Racism. Currently we only pretend to be,or if it is Politically advantageous.Also I am a firm advocate of free enterprise,competition,and support the rich citizens who have worked hard for their money and consequently support the lazy citizens who think they deserve a free ride.I do not believe that unions help the economy at all. They simply add to the cost of manufacturing and harboring less productive individuals.The rich do not desrve to be taxed more heavily than others.This is the MESS I would begin to clean up.
Maybe during the 18 months that he was a Senator he actually cast a vote against something (in lieu of "present"), then just maybe he could have curtailed some of the mess he helped create. In the 1st 100 days he has insulted his country in front of allies and enemies abroad. He hasn't caught or killed Bin Laden as he promised to do in Pakistan through out his campaign. He has also degraded our security by stopping enhanced interogations while citing that we are a nation of values. Lets see, might hurt a fanatic hell bent on destroying our way of life, so do not do anything hurtful when you ask him if knows of a plan to kill thousands of American Citizens. But, he gives millions of tax payers dollars to third world countries to fund abortions. I guess he does not value a life as much as he leads us to believe. He stated that he will not sign bills loaded with ear marks, but then signs the Omnibus spending bill from the end of the last session of congress. Then signs a new stimulus bill loaded to the moon with pork and as of this day has not created one new job. He promised to bring into his administration non inside the beltway individuals who have freash ideas, but, he brings in retreds from the Clinton administration who were useless back then. For sure he is "the one". Just wait until he raises our taxes, not to reduce the defficiet, but to fund his socialist way of life. We work to fund and serve the emperiors life style.
First, I have done my part as an elected official for 8 years, so I'd say I have tried to contribute rather than take pot shots without any sweat equity invested
Here's what I see
1) AIG bailout which to date has handed out zero accountability for bonus situation 2) Cabinet picks seem to have problems with back taxes 3) Picked North Carolina to win NCAA 3) Did a great PR tour with multiple press interviews , spot on Leno, and web-town hall meetings--dodged the question when asked about approving a budget that doesn't have the middle class tax hike he promised in campain. 4) Passed a porkulus spending bill that was pushed thru before all had a chance to read and digest its contenst...thus allowing the AIG bonus loophole and absent the transparency that was promised to the public 5) Gave the Queen an IPOD, kissed the King of Saudi Arabia's hand 6) Got the other nations to kick in more money in to the world monitary fund 7) Gave an olive branch to Iran to have it thrown in his face 8) North Korea is test firing rockets 9) Learned that a trillion dollars is yesterday's million and that my kids, grandkids and great grandkids better learn that word well as they are on the hook to repay all of that 10) Saw the government set a double standard that bailout for banks allows golden parachutes for CEO's and bonuses for exec's while bailout for manufacturing like GM means they fire the CEO and appoint their own management and board of directors. 11) Had the Attorney general and other liberal minions again try to reinstate old gun control laws because it is my responsibility to give up my 2nd amendment rights so guns don't find their way in to other countries such as Mexico
Had to cash out my 401k before it became a 201k to pay off all the credit cards from rates going out of control from unfair fees and hikes that my government said it would put a stop to.
Still can't sell my house without taking a beating, have had my wages reduced, forced time off without pay, and have to move if I want to keep my job while feeling fortunate as 20% of my coworkers were let go months ago and another 10% set to be laid off next month while working in one of the worst unemployment areas of the country (Elkhart Indiana...site of Oblahblah's earlier speach) while getting ready to move to Auburn Hills where Chrysler is about to to file chapter 11.
How can I give any grade other than an F. If we are encountering a swine flu invasion....God help those responsible for the porkulus spending in Washington....pandemic indeed.
Obama has practically sold our children and our childrens children to the chinese. We will come to a point where no other country will buy our debt and the dollar won't be worth the paper it's printed on. Anyone who thinks the way out of debt is spending has probably filed for bankruptcy. Obamas healthcare program sounds good in but it won't work. Government run healthcare is a joke if you don't believe me talk to a breast cancer patient in europe who can't get a medicine that is readily available in the U.S. because the government is forced to ration it. Go to canada when you need an MRI and wait two years to get it ...hope its not important. Who makes better choices for you? Is it you or is it some rich a-hole on capital hill? The government has bankrupted social security helped to bankrupt car company's do you want your visit to the doctor to be like going to the BMV? No matter how America is percieved in the world tens of thousands of people still flock here for an oppurtunity for a better life. Our capitilist society has made us the greatest country in the world. Now Obama is trying to change that! He has told us to buckle down and save while he is spending more money than anyone in history. He is so passionate about his political views that if the teleprompter has a problem he can't remember them. He flip flops on issues and tells anyone what they want to hear. In his campaign he said he wouldn't take private funding and then did. He said he wasn't going to go after the Bush administration for torture and now he is. He said he would go through the budget line by line and get rid of ineffective programs and then passed a bigger budget than the Bush administration. He said he we put and end to earmarks and then signed a bill with close to 9000 earmarks in it. He said that he was "change" and then signed the biggest spending bill ever without reading it. He voted as the most liberal dem in the senate while he was there and then ran under the guise of a moderate. If he finishes his one term in the white house it will be the longest he has ever held a political office or a job. So for all you Obama lovers just remember that your children and grandchildren will not have the same oppurtunity as you or I they will be taxed so much they will not enjoy the same quality of life as we do. They will not want to go out and acheive because they will be used to their handout. They will have restrictions on how much money they can earn and will die at a younger age because their government has run healthcare into the ground just like social security. I am also sick of him playing the blame game. No other president has blamed previous presidents like this one has. He goes after Rush Limbaugh and other right wilngers but doesn't this country have more important problems to deal with. This country needs to wake up and see they are being misled by Obamas political machine. PAY ATTENTION PEOPLE start thinking for yourselves!!!!! Obama is the MTV president it's glamour over substance it'smore about what kind of dog they have or what he is wearing than his policies.
I agree!!! bush was in office for 8 ridiculous years!!! and messed up in so many different ways....in so many areas! there is no way one man can fix it all in 100 days! There is no way a man who's never been president before just eradicate all the problems caused by the previous administration!
Be realistic and practical! he's done a heck of alot more than the bush and his administration did in his entire 2 terms in office. obama is what this country needs and what he is doing for the reputation and image of the u.s.a. is a miracle!
Everyone needs to stop being so judgmental and look at themselves and ask what can i do to help?? The president cannot possibly unite a country that does'nt want to be united and won't even attempt to help their leader succeed!
A couple of reason:
ACORN wouldn't back me.......
I was born in the USA...........
I don't need a Teleprompter........
I believe in Capitalism............
Jesse of Texas: The bring down of our country was not done by one man or one party. It was done by both sides of the spectrum. Each party is responsible one way or another. Both have had the White House and a majority in Congress and both have had the opprotunity to fix things before they went out of control. I use to be a Republican but I drop the registration after Bush started spending countless amounts of money and never vetoed a thing. Obama seems to be doing the same thing which now leaves me stranded. I can't stand to think that my kids are going to inherit everything Bush and Obama have set out to do....the bank bailouts, socialization of our private sector, stimulas packages, limits on what CEO's make....all of this stuff to me is UnAmerican and against our Founder's principles. It sounds like we are heading down the road to make our own Soviet Union. Something has to be done with this path we are on and I don't know what.
All of these complaints that "the current administration has no clue on what to do" from the Right and "this mess is all Bush's fault" needs to stop...we need to all come together and work for the future because it is our kids that will be hurting in the long run if we don't.
When does it become President Obama's mess then? 20-30-40 years?!! Everyone keeps talking about President Bush's budget deficit. (it was bad, I agree) You know what? President Obama just doubled it in his first 100 days! The arguments for President Obama are so incredibly weak, yet he will always have his faithful lemmings follow him everywhere...
President Obama has done NOTHING correct so far and has only further weakened our economy and country as a whole for many future generations.
I believe he is doing a good job as of now. He has only been in office for 100 days and has accomplished many things. He inherited a state of disaster that will not be fixed over night or in 100 days. To the individuals who gave him a D and F; you individuals come off so critical and nasty- it's embarrassing to hear grown adults condemning a man who was brave enough to take on the disaster that he took on. I assume you individuals are extremely critical of him and don't like him for other personal issues and reasons then just what he has or has not done so far in the White House. Your remarks are personal attacks on him, very premature to make (only 100 days in office), and juvenile.
I have to admit that I have the same problem with some of these comments and grades. 100 days! That is what we are grading on. Let us graed you on your first 100 days at a new office and see oh well you do. I can tell you people (those that graded F) that there is thing called academic suspension. Get real, no one has said that he is the greatest President, but then again, there are some saying that he is NO direct relation to the worst like Bush. For those who don't know, Bush is a direct decendent of Franklen Pierce, THE WORST President ever.
Are you the same people that watch and hang on to Glen Beck and Limbaugh's every word; as if it were bible teachings? Get these personal attacks out of here and let those who give a damn have a say.
Yes, he is spending tons of money, but isn't that what a stimulous bill is all about? I do believe that we should have government sponsored healthcare, true gun control, and real salaries for our educators. But we first have to improve our economy. The President os faced with a daunting challange, fix what Bush broke, save where Bush spent, and speak to the public while making sense and not talking down to us as if we were the class being read to by an illiterate idiot.
Better yet, here is a solution, why doesn't the media stop the baggering and let the people speak and grade him on a yearly basis of pass or fail? Stop treating this humain human as if he were a piece of meat, and place yourselves in his shoes, but only if you are man enough to tackle this disaterous state.
If Obama is going to clean up the mess that he inherited then he needs to STOP THE SPENDING! Anyone with half a brain knows that you don't get out of debt by spending more money. If the CDC wants to know where the SWINE FLU originated they might want to check out Capitol Hill! It seems our elected officials think that we the American people pay taxes just so they can enjoy some kind of never ending PORKFEST!!
These results are allot different than the poll results that our liberal media has tried to jam down our throats. Over 52% of the people give him a D or F. Hardly the grades of a "popular" President. He has completely ignored the moderates and conservatives of America and has based ALL of his decisions on his liberal friends and agenda.
Not only an F, a big fat F! Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Rangel, Biden, Kennedy and crew all flunk. I am glad to see that "We The People" are starting to wake up. Obama is more devisive than Bush, more liberal that Kennedy, less competent than Carter and more partisan than any President in my time. He has done more to socialize and divide America in 100 days than any President prior to him. He is a radical, far left, liberal extremist and bad for this nation. Going from the far right to the far left, or one extreme to the other was a horrible mistake. Hopefully we can repair the damage done before it is too late.
Obama has done nothing in 100 days except damage. Closing GITMO, Humiliating our Intelligence Networks, Berating the USA overseas, attacking former administrations of "his" office, appointing the worst cabinet members in history, making "undecisive" decisions so as not to upset the left liberal "money backers" and tax, tax, tax, and spend, spend, spend on more pork than the swine flu epidemic...
This country isnt even republicans or democrats anymore...It's right & left thinkers who point fingers at each other...and THIS man has made the split of the US wider by bending so far left its a miracle he can stand up straight...
A change we can believe in? He's more interested in his own PR than our country.
Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Kennedy, Biden, Stebilius (Miss Late Term lets kill a baby pro Abortion supporter), Arlen Specter( just keep me a senator, and I will give you your votes) ...nope I dont like the people he relies on either..
I do not get my opinions from Fox news, the NY Times, MSNBC or any left blog. I'm just an average American who can think, see and realize what a big mistake America made by electing this BIG F
Incredible! Obama supporters are so aghast at these results they are hurling insults at any and everything and insinuating that all those who gave Obama an "F" must be paid to do so. It's Bush's fault, Limbaugh's fault, Abe Lincoln's fault or it must be a full moon. Certainly, according to them it can't be because people just aren't thrilled about nationalizing or turning the United States into a welfare nation. Absolutely incredible. Makes me dislike the Democratic party even more...
In response to God being a him-
Genesis 1:27
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him;
both male and female. Jesus came back as a male. He WAS God in the flesh.
Why do lib's keep thinking the right hate obamer because he's black, it's not becuase he's black at all, it's because he's anothe lying politician. He's just another guy with unlmited funds and high level friends that could have you killed in 30 mins if he so desired it. Take a look at the list of dead bodies the clinton's left behind, any politician should be a shot politician. Although I'm a little suprised some crazy redneck hasn't shot him yet.
Matthew 6:9
As Jesus the Christ said...
9"After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name."
It amazes me how the liberals can blame Bush for everything, (1) even when he's not in office any longer and (2) when Obama is now responsible. It makes me sick to my stomach that so many Americans can't see through his BS. I guess what they say about our public school system is correct.
Yes its only been 100 days and look at what distruction he has caused. I dread to see the next 100. Ask the English and the Canadaians what they think of their medical system, They die while waiting for treatment. Who in this country is going to want to be a doctor, if the gov. controls you. The people that have the money come to the US for treatment. . I cant believe you are all so blind that you really think it is ok to spend this amount of money and not even worry about how it will be paid back. Next year you are going to see pain like you have never seen before, how are you going to live on less than 50 per cent of your pay check. Thats what you will get and that will not even begin to pay the intrest on our debt. Mabe you should watch FOX you might actually learn the truth for a change because you certainly dont get it from the other media .Just go ahead an keep your warm and fuzzy feeling about Obama, he and his band of thugs are the biggest bunch of weasles this country have ever seen. They mess up every day and make fools of our country and every thing our fore fathers and our military have fought and died for and all of Obamamaniacs think he is so wounderful how can you be so blind. But you will just blame it all on Bush, who I dont care for either, but it is gettin old and a little lame. He actually made fun of the American people who came out of their daily life to protest at the Tea Parties. I thought that was our right to unite on an unjust cause but I guess we dont have that anymore under the dictator.
Laurie-You say that 'if we don't like this ride we should just get off'. Well apparently you didn't bother to get off the Bush 8 year ride so you either liked it or just like to complain and tell other people to be quiet when they don't like something but feel you somehow have a right to complain. The facts are the facts the economic meltdown began in 1999 when the Clinton administration, that Congress and that Senate deregulated the banking and financial industry when they repealled the Glass-Steagal act. That act was put in place just AFTER the Great Depression. They did this to prevent banks from buying and selling mortgage securities because that was a major cause of the GREAT DEPRESSION. In the laughable wisdom of the Clinton administration apparently they felt the financial and banking industry were either no longer greedy(ha ha) or they personally stood to gain from it (my guess). Friends and contributers to the Clinton administration and the Congress and Senate of 1999 stood to be able to gain quite a lot from the deregulation. The group Acorn pushed for welfare money to be included in mortgage applications to make it possible for people who truly couldn't afford a home to get one. Nice of those groups to 'help' those people out.......of their money that is. They knew very well these people would probably default but they would have a few payments and then get the property back and sell it again and again. They had little liablity because they would soon sell that mortgage off to someone else who was greedy who would do the same. So these people you claim to be 'for the people' and for the working class are NOT WORKING CLASS. I challenge you to name me one single Democrat from the house or senate that would be considered middle class.......can't name one can you. That is because every single one of them is in the upper class making hundreds of thousands if not millions per year. Do you really think they are the party of the working class? Nancy Pelosi your beloved speaker of the house tacked on a wonderful amendment to the law passed to raise minimum wage......it was to EXCLUDE American Samoa from the increase. Do you wonder why these people are being excluded and left to toil at 5.15 per hour? Her husband is a very wealthy owner/share holder of the Dole plant in American Samoa. They will benefit in keeping wages low which raises the amount the ownership/shareholders make. It also gives that company an advantave over other companies that are required to pay a higher rate. Still think the 'leader' of the Democratic party gives a rats behind about the working class people? Gee how about John Kerry think he is for the working class because he snowboards.......his wife is Theresa Heinz....ever heard of them....think ketchup, beans etc..........my is she loaded and somehow I doubt he really gives a rats behind whether you can afford your electric bill or the rise in cost of their ketchup and beans.
At least with Republicans in charge I knew I would have the right to defend myself with a gun. Now when it comes down to survival mode, which it will if things continue the way this first 100 days of apologizing to every country on the planet, kow towing to terrorist countries and their radical leaders(Chavez, Amedenajhad) and capitulation to the corporate thieves continues, I worry that I will not have the right to because the liberal left will say 'it isn't good for you, we know what is best'. I don't wonder why the gun sales and ammo sales have gone through the roof. People are preparing because Obama is leading us down a path to be bankrupt and unprotected like a turtle on its back. I for one am going to make sure I still have the ability to protect myself and my family. I hope you live near a 'right wing nut' like me otherwise you can kiss your behind goodbye.
You know, during the campaign for election, Obama had ALL the answers. He was the new "messiah". Ever since he's been in office, he's blamed everything and anything on George Bush. He now occupies the chair, that means the responsibility is his. He has put us trillions in debt, federalized banks, taken over the majority of the car industry, appointed tax evaders and other unethical people to cabinet positions, blamed the United States for every problem in the world, and has bowed down to dictators worldwide, to the disgrace of this nation. He is imposing Socialism on America, and more is to come. Unemployment is in double digits, but we're all supposed to "tighten out belts." Does he tighten his? No, he trots off to the mid-West on Air Force 1, to the cost of hundreds of thousands of dollars of taxpayer money, just to hold a press conference. His cronies have insulted our allies, played footsies with our enemies, made preparations to release terrorists, refused to use the word "terrorist" when it comes to our enemies, but applied it towards our returning veterans!
And we're supposed to give this fool a rating higher than "F" ? Wake up! If you think this is good "change", you're out of your cotton pickin' minds!
JG Collins- Admit it, Bush did a better job with the economy than Obama. I personally believe that Bush spent money like a drunken sailor. However, Obama, in around 100 days in office is spending more money than Bush did in eight years. You can thank Pelousy and Frank for the economic mess we are in now. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!!! P. S. If you think Obama has a clue about running this country, then I believe you are living in Fantasyland...
everyone misunderstood. it was chain not change. we will have chains as we attempt to pay the debt being run up by him and his congress
Yeah i'm so upset about being chained to success right now. GET REAL
Dave are you an economist? Read up bro!
Keynesian economics
Keynesian economics is only one school of economic thought...and it's the one that got us into this mess...
Mediocrity is not success. Just because you compare him to the worst president in history, it doesn't make him the best by comparison, or even a success. We could have been well on our way to recovery by now if he simply reversed all of bush's bad policies but instead he's spent trillions of dollars securing majority shares in private businesses.
And the basis for Keynesian economics is government takeover either by our own government or a united nations type government. So, if you don't mind having the freedoms that made our country great to begin with, and support a dictatorial government, then of course you would agree with Keynesian.
Msdx or whatever you call yourself
"Yeah i'm so upset about being chained to success right now. GET REAL "
You have the nerve to call people names and you don't even which end you are talking "Sh** from, like it matters. " chained to success... Lmao, you are truly an idiot.
ahawkeye1, I do agree with much of your posting and it's true that only time will tell the complete story. I have reservations about spending levels too, but I also believe that doing nothing would have been more of the same and it's clear that was not going to work.
Brisket boy. Chronic thinker is 100% correct. Keynesian economics does not go anywhere are far as Hussein Obama is going. Keynes theories, which I disagree with as I believe in supply side economics, clearly stated that you can do some deficit spending in a good economy, and even some short term deficit spending in a bad economy. But Keynes did not state that you can have deficit spending through the end of time like Hussein Obama is doing. Obama and his socialist buddies in congress are not following Keynes, they are implementing purely socialist economics. And while they are doing this and trying to nationalize the banks and auto industry and everything else under the sun they are moving past pure socialism and into communism, which is socialism with the exception that the government owns and controls the businesses and markets, which is what Obama is trying to get to. Hussein is not following Keynes he is implementing Marxist theories upon the USA just as Karl Marx's stated it would happen, as 'Capitalism would be brought down from the inside'.
You have to remember that Hussein Obama has been a devote member of a Black Liberation Theology Church since the mid 1980's. And Black Liberation Theology is based on Marx's teachings, so it is not a surprise to me and others that Hussein Obama is moving the country into Socialism and towards Communism. If citizens of the USA do not wake by the time the 2010 elections roll around the USA may cease to be a free country based on individuals freedoms and prosperity as Obama is moving us away from individual freedom and towards communalism, i.e. communism.
I think that it is you Brisket boy that needs to go back and read Keynes theories as you are stating them incorrectly.
More of the same is a nice tag line to use when you want to try to pigeon hole people into a particular group. There are more than two options other than do nothing and spending a trillion dollars on programs that do not fix the problems that started the whole thing. I was not advocating anything of the same except for the policies that did work under clinton. It doesn't cost a trillion dollars to resend the failed bush policies that we hear so much of (btw I would like to know exactly which policies people are referring to when this is said, in addition to the people who voted for and against it). I'm tired of people saying that the government has to 'do something' in order for us to get out of our mess. The government doing something is what got us here to begin with. We have pretty much the same principle players in congress we have had for at least a decade but somehow these people are now going to save us? I don't trust any of them. I don't like the way obama is doing things, and i didn't like the way bush did things either and I didn't vote for McCain. Hopefully our next election will have more options other than twins in a different colored tie and who isn't beholden to the party they are associated with. A third option is necessary here. This two party system has failed us.
Obama seems like a genuinely good person (my hope is that he is anyway, but politicians...) I just think he's trying to cram all of his potential into the first 100 days.
I'm working on a documentary on the subject. I'd like to thank all who think that Obama screwed us in 3 months. You are giving me the best fodder I have ever seen.
You're opinions are so disconnected from fact that you are scary.
, You sound mostly to partly paranoid. I bet you think your toothbrush is out to get you. Communism? Get real! No one talks about communism any more! And do you call everyone by their middle name, or do you only do it when it is someone you don't like and it is Hussein? When did economics and religious denominations become mixed anyway?
It is no wonder the Republican party is withering away. Nothing new here, only Blah, blah, blah.
Who signed the Deregulation Bill in 1999?? Was it Republican or Democrat???
Bill Clinton did... Democrat... That is what put us in this mess. Now we have another Democrat putting us in a bigger mess.
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Bill Clinton did... Democrat... That is what put us in this mess. Now we have another Democrat putting us in a bigger mess.
Who signed the Deregulation Bill in 1999?? Was it Republican or Democrat???
The door was opened by Clinton. It was not walked through until Bush.
In 2000 there were less than 1 trillion in credit default swaps.
By 2008 we had written $60 trillion in swaps contracts that American companies held no reserves to cover.
The truth is an offence.
I just think he's trying to cram all of his potential into the first 100 days. .......... My dad had a word for that. It was a "blivot." That's trying to cram 10 pounds of sh** into a 5 pound bag.
I hope you didn't put too much thought into that, I have heard better responses from third graders... literally. a documentary... ooooh, that was so pathetic, how old are you 12?
No... the real truth is if the Deregulation Bill was never signed this wouldn't have happened. Unfortunately, It all happened in the next Presidents time frame.
I hope you didn't put too much thought into that, I have heard better responses from third graders... literally. a documentary... ooooh, that was so pathetic, how old are you 12?
Thank you for being a perfect example of how conservatives put words one after the other that mean nothing. No, I am not 12, I am 42 and do research for a living. Why not try and answer this post for me to prove your grip on the facts:
1. Hate myth: Obama is running around the world, bowing to world leaders, not doing his job, ignoring America and telling everyone what a bad country we are.
Fact: Obama aoologized in 3 of 28 speeches for Bush's arrogance, not for America or the American people. Very appropriate.
2. Hate myth: We are losing America.
Fact: Conservative policy is loosing it's popularity because it's policies ignited a costly and poorly advised war and aided (unrestrained free market capitalism) a global economic meltdown.
Hate myth #3: Only conservatives are patriotic.
Fact: Americans who have studied the facts understand that conservative policy as it has existed, see it is actually dangerous for America, allowing the implosion of our economic system, politicizing the Department of Justice, creating a 3 trillion $ war that gained us very little, breaking Geneva convention. It is patriotic to be informed. In fact, without informed citizens, we will never have a democracy.
Hate myth #4: Obama is spending us into poverty, he has hijacked this nation and turned us to socialism, he is a far left radical with no opposition, so we must all oppose him to keep him form killing this country.
Fact: The spending we disapprove of is perpetrated on us by the economic collapse of 2008. If we had done nothing at all about it, all economists agree, we would be in far worse shape already. Tax cuts can not control global economic catastrophe. Republicans have to yet to devise a plan to rectify the crisis.
There are hundreds of these hate myths circulating among us today, indoctrnaiting many into uninformed, dangerous positions.
In 3 months time, right wing hate media has convinced Americans to support the very party who presided over the economic meltdown.
That is plain and simple proof of the power of bad information and our media's inability to get good information to Americans. If Americans understood the crisis, they would not fall for propaganda. http://salemsage.newsvine.com/_news/2009/03/19/2564585-a-clear-and-logical-explaination-of-the-financial-meltdown
Watch for my documentary ," Rupert Murdock Rules the World", read up, America. And for God's sake - NEVER get your facts from TV or radio only.
Unless the American public becomes informed of fact over dogma, we will never have a Democracy!
If WW2 hadn't "conveniently" occured, no one would have ever even heard of Keynes.
Does it make you wonder how it is that Americans can have the facts and the truth right in front of them and still prefer lies, propaganda and dogma?
Reagan-Bush1 took the national debt from under 1-trillion dollars to about 3-trillion, it stayed at about that level under Clinton maybe dropping a little, Bush2 took it from about 3-trillion dollars to close to 10-trillion dollars . . . check out this website and then tell me about big-spending presidents . . .
I'm new to this, is it against the rules to post a web link?
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Hope Forpeace, do you really believe that unless we all agree with you that we will never have a democracy?
You are aware that a functioning democracy allows for free thinking?
You are aware that technically the United States isn't even a democracy? It is a republic. Even in true democracies there can arise something the founding fathers very much feared: "Tyranny of the Majority".
I am sure the democrats in congress and the Obama administration believe they are doing the right thing, but to say that all economists agree with what has been done is simply false. And to say that the "spending we disapprove of is perpetuated on us by the economic collapse of 2008" is taking all the credit and blame off of the current administration for their present spending decisions.
It's like the parent who says they had to yell at their child because their child was misbehaving and thus it is the child's fault. It was still the parent who chose to yell at the child. And in this case, no matter what the previous administration had done, it is this administration that has chosen to try to spend us out of this situation. The recent spending spree we've been on hasn't been "perpetuated on us" by anyone, rather it has been decided on deliberatly by the present administration.
It may not be clear yet what the effects of those decisions are but I believe in the long term it does not bode well with our economy to be trying to spend our way out of a recession. You can't get into massive debt without regard for how it is going to payed back without some consequences. It is common sense. Yes Bush messed up and left us with massive debt. But the amount of debt the Obama and congress seem to be aiming to put us in makes the Bush debt look like pocket change. It is irresponsible.
My opinion respectfully, in this "democracy".
Regarding post from: "I'm working on a documentary on the subject. I'd like to thank all who think that Obama screwed us in 3 months. You are giving me the best fodder I have ever seen."
Wow, another best seller! Maybe Michael Moore or Al Dork/Gore will take you on their "look at me" hypocrite tours in their gas guzzling jets and let you play it before their so-called fact based propaganda films.
Same old right wing comments in every seed. Getting pretty boring. They cant even flood this poll enough to get the numbers way up on the negative side. What the matter righties sombody steal your logins?
I believe that the numbers here speak for themselves. Normally on newsvine, the lazy, jobless radical left are out here, voting in droves and regurgitating their brainwashed lies. But interestingly enough, those voting today are giving BO his just desserts, a failing grade. Mark my word people, this venue will delete all reference to this vote and you won't even be able to find anything about it on the web tomorrow if it doesn't go the way of this liberal owned media - that is, an exemplary grade for the "great one" with blind adoration.
ON THE OTHER HAND, the 100 day mark has got to be the most idiotic thing to analyze OR celebrate. I wouldn't expect anyone to get anything accomplished in Washington these days with all the self serving politicians - republicans and democrats alike. Sadly, the primary reason I grade of "F" is based on my personal situation and the personal sitations of everyone I know in my once prosperous state of Michigan and across the country is WORSE and we're being told BY THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION that it will get worse! Yet, be patient! THIS IS THE PRESIDENT who will make all our dreams of nirvana come true! HORSEHOCKEY!. The writing's on the wall. I'll lose my house by that time, working 2 jobs or not, thanks to this administrations policies and their comfy position in bed with the banking industry. Don't even get me started on how CRIMINAL it was for Obama to fire (or gee, get "credit" for firing) the GM CEO when the government hadn't even taken over the company YET. Now that is REALLY happening and it doesn't scare you all?!?! That IS socialist! There is no other way to describe it! I invite all of you to take a tour of Michigan and look at how your Obama and our radical lib governor has DESTROYED our once prosperous state. If I sound sad and fearful - you bet your a$$ I am. You come here and take a real look and it will make you sick. I beg EVERYONE to vote out all the good old boys & girls come the next election regardless of party.
Another thing: QUIT BLAMING THE AMERICAN PROBLEMS ON THE BUSH AND CLAIMING B.O. INHERITED IT ALL from him! It is such a lame and ignorant argument! If you say some problems were inherited by the last ADMINISTRATION, I might agree on a few things. BECAUSE anyone with any brains here knows dang well that that the ruling Washington politicians during the last 4 years of Bush's presidency WERE DEMOCRATS!!! AND one of those voting us into the current oblivion was your Mr. Wonderful, B.O.! SO! - the FACT is that yes! You are right - sort of! The current decay was caused in part DURING the last administration (not by Bush the man) and what the tax-evading and corrupt Dems the likes of Barney Hairy Frank put into play at that time. (Uh-oh, I'll probably get "collapsed" for that!) The only things B.O. has truly inherited from Bush that he and his band of tax evading cheats choose to destroy, is American pride (not arrogance) and our liberties and freedoms.
Speaking of collapse, regarding these newsvine discussions, someone please tell me why some comments are marked as "collapsed by the community". Funny thing is, most that are collapsed are those who would give the president a "D" - "F". So much for free speech, that the Obama lovers don't realize his administration is about to wipe out. Everyone is so dang PC and afraid to say what they really believe - I'm so sick of it and you are too - you just don't have the guts to speak out about it.
Finally, the double-speak out here is extraordinary! My personal favorite from good ol' about "Bush's cowboy mentality, do what I say not as I do" PLEASE! That was INVENTED by the likes of Pelosi and what's-his-dork who couldn't cut it and be president - who made 10s of millions last year flying around in their gas guzzling private jets and had the NERVE to point fingers of shame and rant on about the global warming MYTH (that's right, I said it, MYTH, and if you sheep would go seek out the real -governmental control - reasons they are determined to brainwash you all, as well as the VERY REPUTABLE scientists who agree that it's myth, you might learn something.)
I think you are all brainwashed and fail to think for yourselves.
Too busy keeping your parties seperate.
We need to wake up and think for ourselves and get in control of the government. We need to make it for the people and not for big business.
Put the phony politics aside and really look at what is going on!
No, sorry, we "righties" have to work for a living and did not have time yet today to read and be shamed enough to respond yet. We were to busy trying to work our personal and company finances out of the recession we are in to worry about what those of you that don't have time to work because you are to busy commenting in forums to work. So, with that said, what happened to you "lefties" working for a living? If your not working for the company that pays you, you are part of the problem and why that company is struggling.
This mess was created by the American people spending money they did not earn. That money was available to them by bad policies passed by the Clinton administration and other legislation from the previous presidency. We're in this mess because Americans got into debt over their heads instead of living within their means. Now "America" is in worse debt by spending even more money it doesn't have in a wasteful manner. Instead of American people making it worse this time, it is the same lawmakers who enabled the problem to begin with.
I agree that reasonable debt is OK to make a business successful. That is how I made my business successful. I spent the money is a wise manner and didn't take more than I needed. This is not the case with the Obama administration.
I would never consider giving the maker of the DeLorean money because it was a failed business model with bad leadership. Why would I consider doing the same for Citigroup, GM, or any other bonehead company?
What it comes down to for me is the government is deciding who will lose their jobs and businesses. Instead of keeping those ones around that make America strong (the little guys), they decided to spend a bunch of money on the few who made the biggest mistakes. It is a waste of money. I only hope I can make enough money in this short term "high" to carry me through the chaos to come.
It funny you accuse the "righties" of "same old right wing comments in every seed." I don't see anything but the same old "lefty" talking points provided by the media. It's so hard to give credence to any arguments when all you do is call people names.
Everyone is working hard for a living. Sometimes life happens and makes it difficult to pay your bills. I hope you never have to struggle! Have a sick one and your insurance only pays 80% of a 100,000 bill!. I am a Democrat and I work hard everyday. I have never asked for a handout, but I am sympathetic to others. I have 3 jobs, I have a Masters degree! But I still struggle daily!!! And it was really ignorant of you to make that comment about not having time to answer in a forum because you are working! However, you are making comments in the forum. You must not be working that HARD!!!Companies are struggling because of greedy CEO's that are taking vacations, paying for multiple homes, and buying 7-10 fancy cars. While the people who actually do the work for them can't even get a RAISE and are struggling to pay their bills. While they sit in their big FANCY desks with their suit and ties (trying to look IMPORTANT) and looking down on others, LIKE YOU!!! I hope you never have to struggle!!!I hope you never lose a job and can't find one! I hope you never get sick and can't work, which means you can't receive a paycheck!!!Which means you can't pay your bills.I hope you never have to experience any of these things, and if you do I hope someone can show you some sympathy! Helping people in need that are trying is not a HANDOUT! Read your BIBLE!!!Jesus helped EVERYONE!And did not judge or look down on others!! OBAMA is doing a GREAT JOB!!!We actually have an intelligent PRESIDENT that cares for others and is working hard daily to help people like me. If you would just give him a chance. He has accomplished more in 100 days than BUSH in 8 years!! You can thank Bush for your company struggling!
STFU you ignorant "moran". You sound just like the guy who made that word infamous on the internet. The debt and deficit are a product of 8 years of GOP gluttony, avarice and greed under G W Bush and friends.
all economists agree with what has been done is simply false. And to say that the "spending we disapprove of is perpetuated on us by the economic collapse of 2008" is taking all the credit and blame off of the current administration for their present spending decisions.
Jebs, thank you for your very well thought out argument. You are right about "democracy". Well said.
My point here is that at least 90% of the posts I see here are based in arguments that are made by right thinking media groups and are not based in fact. I'm sure you see it.
His policies will do immeasurable harm to the US... if a bankrupt govt bails out bankrupt business... we all lose.
No bailouts creates a snowball effect - massive bank failure and corporation failure leads to mass unemployment. With an economy that is 2/3 consumer spending based, that is a catastrophe. No B of A? No GM, Ford, where do you think that would end without intervention?
While ALL economists don't agree on policy - they do agree that if we had done nothing from day 1, we would be involved in complete failure today. THAT is the peice that all the right sided comments miss here. The movie is about the information level of the typical American, how close it is to reality and where it comes from.
The facts are staggering. And seen easily here in people supporting the party that allowed their finances to fail just 6 months ago. Do you see anyone here mentioning the financial crisis itself? Anyone angry with Bush on these pages for not watching the economy? In fact, I am demonized if I mention Bush.
As if Obama could have saved a global economic meltdown without spending or bailing, in 3 months. Sounds like that was the expectation.
My issue is WHERE this thinking comes from and it's power over us.
My point here is that at least 90% of the posts I see here are based in arguments that are made by right thinking media groups and are not based in fact. I'm sure you see it.
And the proof and justification for saying they are 'right thinking media groups' and not just people who disagree with is where?
No bailouts creates a snowball effect - massive bank failure and corporation failure leads to mass unemployment. With an economy that is 2/3 consumer spending based, that is a catastrophe. No B of A? No GM, Ford, where do you think that would end without intervention?
How do think we got to this problem? Government intervention. Politicians bought off by special interests to manipulate the laws away from regulation. Not to mention the government invervention of trying to expand home ownership to those that couldnt afford it. Seems you are conveniently overlooking those facts.
While ALL economists don't agree on policy - they do agree that if we had done nothing from day 1, we would be involved in complete failure today. THAT is the peice that all the right sided comments miss here.
Again that is not true. There are many economists that said the government should stay out of it and let the normal business processes take over. Orderly bankruptcies, selling off of assets, smaller businesses growing from taking up the slack of the big players leaving, etc. And even had the government interjected itself there are many other ways they could have handled it.
And seen easily here in people supporting the party that allowed their finances to fail just 6 months ago. Do you see anyone here mentioning the financial crisis itself? Anyone angry with Bush on these pages for not watching the economy? In fact, I am demonized if I mention Bush.
Most that I see are angry at Bush for his failures and starting this bailout garbage. Not to mention people like Frank and Dodd, whos corrupt actions (or lack of action caused by corruption) helped contribute to this mess but notice most on the left refuse to hold these people accountable or even look at them. Instead they are given positions of power to 'help fix' the situation that they allowed to happen on THEIR watch as well.
As if Obama could have saved a global economic meltdown without spending or bailing, in 3 months. Sounds like that was the expectation.
I dont see or think anyone had that expectation. But I think they did have the expectation for him not to repeat the same mistakes Bush made, which he is doing and more. I did not vote for him or McCain, though I preferred him to McCain. However, there is very little he has done that I agree with. And that doesnt even count the items he has gone back on his word on (5 day bill posts, lobbyist reform, drug reform, etc).
you are awesome!!! Right on! This guy is the BIGGEST FRAUD ever! Remove him and Pelosi and Reid!
Liberal hate myth 1 Blaming Bush and making excuses make American stronger.
Obama is incapable of polarizing nations using goodwill and acts of professionalism. Instead he recklessly blames others and accuses his country of incompetence. Then he shamefully bows in submission to other world leaders because he is unable to look them in the eye because neither he nor his wife has ever been proud of America until now.
Hate Myth 2. Liberals are patriotic and conservatives are destroying the country with their values.
While the majority of the country was worried about soldiers lives deviants in California led by their SF mayor chose to deliberately break the law use this chance to further their filthy agenda. Not seeking simply equal rights but attempting to destroy the institution of marriage values that the country was founded on. Further they mock the reproductive process of Nature by professing gay by birth agendas and repeatedly fighting against the will of the voters. Not simply seeking equality in rights of companionship but desiring the label associated with the union of a man and woman.
These same Liberals voted for, were in favor of, and then blamed an administration for the entire process of the war. They were unable to use their skills and resources to verify supposedly false claims of WMD before voting. Yet they blamed others for this very item. They further would not acknowledge that a vicious world leader that used weapons provided by previous liberal leadership to kill thousands of innocent women and children had stated he had and intended to use WMD against our country. While body bags were piling up these patriots were using this opportunity to further their political agendas, break the laws of the land, and even stated they would immediately end the war if they were in power.
In the mean time many conservatives were counseling their families on living within their means, avoiding credit debt, cancelling or suspending expenses that are unnecessary for survival in lean times, and using good judgment when purchasing a home. In fact some conservative organizations actually counsel their members to save a year’s worth of food and build up enough savings to pay your rent for one year.
Liberal hate myth number 4 Bush administrations caused the banks to collapse and so did the conservatives. They allowed Freddie MAc to run wild.
Liberal leadership changed the law and allowed banks unrestricted reign when Clinton signed the de-regulation into law. Following this act 49 banks in Liberal states went bust. 22 in conservative states
It was liberal Democrats, led by Senator Christopher Dodd and Congressman Barney Frank, who for years denied that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were taking big risks that could lead to a financial crisis.
It was Senator Dodd, Congressman Frank and other liberal Democrats who for years refused requests from the Bush administration to set up an agency to regulate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
It was liberal Democrats, again led by Dodd and Frank, who for years pushed for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to go even further in promoting subprime mortgage loans, which are major part of the current financial crisis.
Alan Greenspan warned them over 4 years ago. So did the Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers to the President. So did Bush’s Secretary of the Treasury, over five years ago.
Yet, today, what are we hearing? That it was the Bush administration “right-wing ideology” of “de-regulation” that set the stage for the financial crisis. Do facts matter?
Liberal Myth 5 Obama is holding people accountable for their actions and making good decisions.
Enron execs went to jail when they ripped people off. And Sarbanes Oxley was passed into law. Now after authorizing bonuses for failing institutions Obama feigned shock and awe. He was so horrified that his friends would take the bonuses his administration authorized that so he decided to tax them at 100%. But only if after they wrote off all their campaign contributions, various mortgages, retirement account catch up contributions, business expenses, portfolio loses, child’s Harvard tuition, and charitable contributions they still had an adjusted gross annual income of more than $250,000 dollars.
After a neighboring country had a major flu epidemic materialize in a matter of days infecting over 2000 and killing at least 150 the current administration has not swiftly enacted safeguards. While countries 2500 miles away were scanning US passengers Obama was saying it’s only a concern and not anything to be alarmed about. Now that he has killed yet another baby or young child he is concerned a little more.
After taking several days to shoot three pirates in the back at night to free a hostage his incompetence and lack of protections allowed 60 more individuals to be taken hostage the next day in retaliation.
You need only look at the facts. This administration is going to humiliate us on the world stage and then blame everyone else.
clickit45 Thanks for your stereotypical view of the left, calling them lazy and jobless. Just proves how ignorant you are with statements like that. You guys read one conservative propaganda rag or watch FOX news and get brainwashed to think exactly how they tell you think, of course not based on any real facts what so ever, and then spout out the same quotes you here from Rush proudly believing you are educating the rest of US when all you are doing is just showing your ignorance. Quit being sheep and think for yourselves. Get your news from many different sources, on-line, cable etc, go to a conservative and liberal site and you will find that the truth is some where in between.
I want it made clear that this is not a slam, but constructive criticism I personally feel. One opinion. He is an exceptional character when he steps into his role in this movie. What he has or has not done for this country is not a good thing. He is too controlled and emotionless, except when selling himself to the world powers. Underneath all that has to lie a man who has a personality, an attitude far deeper than he shows about various issues. As an actor, he would win an Academy Award. But, as a President, in these troubled times, it is critical that we have experienced and sound leadership, and I dont feel we do. I can't help but apply the old "birds of a feather" phrase to his selection of his cabinet. He might be what this country needs 15 years from now, but in the crisis the world is in, I cannot see where his decisions improve the big picture. We cannot live for today, when generations after us are burdoned with the mistakes of throwing good money after bad, to appease the wealthy, annoy all others..........
Fl Independant: I can tell you how we got into this - read my article, click on my name, in fact your answers here are off base.
How do think we got to this problem? Government intervention. Politicians bought off by special interests to manipulate the laws away from regulation. Not to mention the government invervention of trying to expand home ownership to those that couldnt afford it. Seems you are conveniently overlooking those facts.
Subprime morgages account for $689 billion in the equation. Fannie and Freddie were the ONLY regulated lenders, all OTHER lenders were Unregulated. So, it was private business who needed regulating, not already regulated lenders. Credit default swaps accounted for $60 trillion os our problem - they are afr more culprit than sub primes. For more information click my name and read my article on the subject.
Again that is not true. There are many economists that said the government should stay out of it and let the normal business processes take over. Orderly bankruptcies, selling off of assets, smaller businesses growing from taking up the slack of the big players leaving, etc.
Can you cite them? I follow many economists, all I heard state that the fall of Lehman Brothers last fall had a major impact on stocks, financial institutions and confidence. Now, if we had not acted, all American car companies, scores of banks and financial institutions would be gone. I have yet to see 1 economist who says doing nothing would have been productive. I hope you can insert a link to such a story.
helped contribute to this mess but notice most on the left refuse to hold these people accountable or even look at them
The Fannie and Freddie argument holds no water when examined: “
On May 25,2006, Senator McCain joined as a co-sponsor to the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005 (first put forward by Sen. Charles Hagel [R-NE] where he pointed out that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac's regulator reported that profits were "illusions deliberately and systematically created by the company's senior management". However, this regulation too met with opposition from both Democrats and Republicans. John McCain received $21,550 from these GSEs in the 19-year, 1989-2008, timeframe. Freddie Mac also contributed $250,000 to the 2008 Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minnesota according to FEC filings”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddie_Mac
So, I see lots of typical conservative dogma talking points in your reply. I’m only guessing you get that from TV and radio. Maybe you made it up yourself.
"4thepeople"
Obama is incapable of polarizing nations using goodwill and acts of professionalism. Instead he recklessly blames others and accuses his country of incompetence. Then he shamefully bows in submission to other world leaders because he is unable to look them in the eye because neither he nor his wife has ever been proud of America until now.
Is he supposed to be polarizing nations? I think you are confused. Listen to media outside America. He made huge strides in confidence across seas. Recklessly blames others? In 3 of 28 speeches, he made reference to BUSH’s arrogant policies, he did not critisize the american people. He was right. You sound like Hannity.
Hate Myth 2. Liberals are patriotic and conservatives are destroying the country with their values.
I said the CONSERAVTIVE thinking is that only conservatives are patriotic. I was stating a fact.
THE ONLY potential fix for financial breakdown of global proportion - is federal spending. Tax cuts on the rich can't touch 8% unemployment. In fact, we may not have spent enough and the trick is to spend it fast, to jump start the economy. Doing nothing, letting everything fail - the position I hear most Tea party people say - is insane. It's not even an option, and simply shows how uninformed people are.
(I have even recorded Republican politicians saying the global economic meltdown was made up by Democrats, it never really happened! I am currnetly working on a movie on Republican dogma vs. fact., so I study these facts full time.)
So, within 3 months of a new administration - the FOX NEWS propaganda machine has Americans out protesting the only known cure for the illness THEIR PARTY CREATED!!!!!!! Conservative, white Americans (yes, the rest of us can look at the TV and see that the tea parties were white conservatives, it's just a fact) who NEVER protest - out protesting against Obama with signs equating him with HITLER.
I know the spending is painful - but does 1 of these protestors have any better idea how to fix the economy? They are out there protesting on favor the party that just allowed the econmy to fail on their watch!!!!!!
THE MAN IS JUST TRYING TO FIX THE DISASTER CONSERVATIVE ECONOMIC POLICY HELPED CREATE!
For God's sake.
DO ANY OF YOU HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF HOW TO FIX THE ECONOMY? In 3 months asking that question - I have yet to have 1 blogger post an answer - other than tax cuts, oil drilling and do nothing.
THERE IS NO OTHER CURE! Nobel prize economics masters can tell you that. But you'd rather listen to idiots whose only talent is screaming lies with a strait face!!!!!! O'Reilly told the nobel prize winner in economics for 2008 to go home and do his homework!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUOFTPbxuWA That's the we people listen to!!!! Sick and pathetic. Nobel prize inners do a bit of homework. Ratings loving hate mongers do a different kind of homework!
But the FOOLS on FOX "NEWS" will tell you that Obama just wanted a nanny nation and he just wants to lead as a far left radical and America is over, count the days until you can vote in the same party that F---ed us in the first place.
The partisan divide in this country exists because FOX news is in your face everyday telling you what a horrible person Obama is. So, again, you see the results.
AND PEOPLE FALL FOR IT, hook, line and sinker
GET SOME FACTS
No one out here likes this spending, but if you attempt to answer this post, answer 1 question - what better idea do you have other than spending? I have never once on FOX heard anyone even elude to that facts of WHY we are having "socialism".
The road to this socialism was paved by the inattention of George W. Bush who never noticed the economy was heading for a brick wall at 100 MPH. If you know that - how can you now - 3 months later - hate the guy who is responsible for fixing the disaster and support the party that created the disaster to begin with?
Liberal hate myth number 4 Bush administrations caused the banks to collapse and so did the conservatives. They allowed Freddie MAc to run wild
1. Fannie and Freddie were ALREADY REGULATED, ALL the rest of the lenders in the US were not, THEY were doing the heavy ARMs and predatory lending.
2. Subrpimes are only 689 billion - swaps were 60 trillion - Fannie and Freddie are the cover Repubs like to use so no one will talk about the real problems. 60 trillion is swaps was the sinker in this equation.
PLEASE read my article on how the financial collapse happened! Freddie and Fannie were a small part of the problem. $60 trillion is credit default swaps was a MAJOR contributor.
Come on people - Since it's all the rage to slam spending - how would YOU fix the economic crisis - what path do you think is wiser?
If you can't answer that - stop blogging and get informed - do something constructive for this country. How are we going to get out of this crisis when half of us are brainwashed by the party that screwed us in the first place?
Also, conservatives must remember - consumer spending is 2/3 of our economy. While saving and not overusing credit is very wise, I agree, we would have never had the amount of growth we had 2003-2007 without bad credit practices. I’m not supporting conservative policy, I’m just stating the facts.
The difference beteen myth and fact is myth is not based on truth. Fact is fact. I rarely see the "facts" of the right being based on truth. That is how I know they are bogus.
People get on here and try to regurgitate what they hear on TV, thinking it's fact. But, it isn't. The "Fannie and Freddie and the Dems" are responsible for the economic meltdown is a good example. Came from a video from Canada that is not based in fact. It is a shield of lies put up by the "right" to cover fact.
$60 trillion in default swaps had a far worse impact on our economy. For more information, click on my name, Hope Forpeace.
Hope-You are now going to try and pin the deregulation on Bush when it is FACT that Clinton signed the deregulation bill in 1999 almost 2 years before Bush took office in January of 2001. Bush didn't sign the bill and couldn't get rid of it once he got in a President doesn't write legislation the Congress does and since they were the ones that drew it up to remove regulation they weren't likely to put it back. You make me laugh people trying to put this on Bush when the facts are now out in the open that it was a Democratic president that signed to get rid of the financial and bank regulations. With that sort of thinking......kind of like how Gore says he invented the internet....lol then Bush is responsible for the gas crisis in the 1970's and why not the Holocaust too. Talk about grasping at straws to blame Bush. The President does NOT control private industry Bush had zero rights to control a banking and financial industry without the regulations that Clinton and his congress removed. Bush could not just put the law back the President does NOT have that kind of power or control since he is not a dictator although the way you liberal leftists would have it written Bush was that but amazingly enough Obama who has the exact same job title somehow doesn't have that same level of control or responsibiltiy. You liberal Bush blamers want your cake and to eat it too. You want to claim Bush had all this sweeping power and that somehow on January 21st the job title and responsibilty level of the job miraculously changed to someone who 'inherited' everything and bares zero responsibilities even though he was a senator that voted for legislation that you liberals claim to be annoyed by. You want to act as if Obama was blindsided by all of this.....good lord if he had no idea what was going on and he was a Senator we are all in trouble. He voted for plenty of laws that are in place now in the 2 years before his presidency. He applied for the job asked for the job and it was NOT thrust upon him. If he didn't want to deal with the responsibilites he should not have run period. All he has done in 100 days is point the finger at everyone else, play like he knew nothing which is scary at best, spend more of our money on corporate theives, kow tow to governments/leaders that would love to see all americans dead and have said so-Chavez and Amedenajhad and apologize to the entire world calling every american arrogant. On top of all of that his wife states plainly that 'this is the first time in her life she has been proud to be an American'. It doesn't take much to figure out that she is saying that up until now she has been embarrassed to be an American. If both of them are so ashamed of this country why on earth are they still here. They certainly aren't poor they made 2.7 million dollars last year according to their taxes.....they could have left. We do not need a leader who is embarrassed to be an American with a wife that is embarrassed guaranteed to be teaching their kids to be embarrassed to be Americans. He is leading this country into a debt that will not be paid off for generations......sadly I think that is the plan to put us so far in debt we can't get out and then tax the middle class out of existence that way his marxist beliefs can be put into place.
Hopeforpeace-you are correct the credit default swaps are worse for the economy problem is that the deregulation of the banking system by the Clinton administration allowed for these to be done. Secondly part of the Obama plan to sell 'toxic assets' to investors is exactly the same as the credit swaps. All it does is put the american taxpayer on the hook for it again. Example if an investor buys 50k in these toxic assets the government will as well then the government will also 'insure' the 50k that the investor bought just in case the assets go down the tubes and end up worth nothing(which is likely because that is why they are toxic assets(=debts/bad loans). So the investor doesn't risk anything the taxpayer loses the 50k they had to put up forced by the government then they also have to pay the investor back the 50k they put up........gee sounds like a bad deal for the taxpayer all around. The investor takes zero risk and the taxpayers get skrewed again.
Hope
You are not stating facts but opinions, you should listen to your own advice. I am not choosing sides, I am just trying to figure things out just like everybody else. Sorry but I do have difference of opinion and do not believe everything I hear. I am not a researcher as you call yourself. The sad part is I do agree with some of the things you say, however I disagree with other things you have said as well. The only part you seem to hear is what you want to hear or choose to believe in. We as a country need to pull it together( key word; together)if we are ever going to move forward. The thing I get from most of the negative posting that you are reffering to, is that people are tired of hearing "blame it on Bush mentality",he said he could do it. So quit crying about who did what and do what he said he was going to do. He is not bringing us together, it almost seems like he's trying to divide us, he puts down the the people that were at the "tea parties", and he's our president and he's putting down his own people for just expressing their thoughts, I find that to be in bad taste. I am not making excuses for Bush , why are you making excuses for Obama?
It is amazing, you put out fact and truth and you have these leftist on this site that want your comment either deleted or collapsed as heaven forbid we speak the truth. What ever happened to freedom of speech which my family and I fought for? When the left wants to shut down your freedom on one hand and then stated that they are for this freedom they just show their utter hypocrisy.
Posted: 4/29/09.
Brisket boy. Chronic thinker is 100% correct. Keynesian economics does not go anywhere are far as Hussein Obama is going. Keynes theories, which I disagree with as I believe in supply side economics, clearly stated that you can do some deficit spending in a good economy, and even some short term deficit spending in a bad economy. But Keynes did not state that you can have deficit spending through the end of time like Hussein Obama is doing in a bad economy. Obama and his socialist buddies in congress are not following Keynes, they are implementing purely socialist economics and policies. And while they are doing this and trying to nationalize the banks and auto industry and everything else under the sun they are moving past pure socialism and into communism, which is socialism with the exception that the government owns and controls the businesses and markets, which is what Obama is trying to get to. Hussein is not following Keynes he is implementing Marxist theories upon the USA just as Karl Marx's stated it would happen, as 'Capitalism would be brought down from the inside'.
You have to remember that Hussein Obama has been a devote member of a Black Liberation Theology Church since the mid 1980's. And Black Liberation Theology is based on Marx's teachings, so it is not a surprise to me and others that Hussein Obama is moving the country into Socialism and towards Communism. If citizens of the USA do not wake by the time the 2010 elections roll around the USA may cease to be a free country based on individuals freedoms and prosperity as Obama is moving us away from individual freedom and towards communalism, i.e. communism.
I think that it is you Brisket boy that needs to go back and read Keynes theories as you are stating them incorrectly.
His policies will do immeasurable harm to the US... if a bankrupt govt bails out bankrupt business... we all lose.
If it's the government that's doing the spending, then it's you and me who are paying more taxes to allow them to spend...I would rather spend my own money than have the government take it away from me and spend it on something I don't want them to spend it on.
The problem isn't necessarily government spending (though that's plenty out of control), it's government DEFICIT spending, ei, spending money we don't have. You and I aren't allowed to go spend a lot of money we don't have (without the credit card company demanding we pay them back plus interest), so what makes us think that the government can do it? Printing money just devalues the dollar, borrowing from the Chinese is tying us to a communist government... do either of these options really sound like good ideas?
I'm all for spending, so long as some with a brain has control of the money bag. When it comes to money, few politicians have any brains at all and President Obama might be the worst we've seen yet. Hard to believe that we have a president who might have managed to already be worse that FDR and Carter...
Reagan-Bush1 took the national debt from under 1-trillion dollars to about 3-trillion, it stayed at about that level under Clinton maybe dropping a little, Bush2 took it from about 3-trillion dollars to close to 10-trillion dollars . . . check out this website (zfacts-nationaldebt graph) and then tell me about big-spending presidents . . .
So it was ok for Bush to do it but not a democrat. Funny how you right wingers let Bush tank the country and critisize the person who is trying to fix the problem the only way it can be fixed. Read my lips. The financial sector cannot borrow money overseas Bush killed that. If they have no money to lend the economy collapses. That leaves the Federal Government to bankrool them until they get on their feet again. Japan and other country's suffering from the same types of collapse have done the same thing. All in all as this works through the economy will recover tax revenues will get back to normal and the deficit will dissapear.
I'm sorry but just because Japan tried to impliment Keynesian stimulus spending policies does not mean it was or is the correct approach to repairing a battered economy. Economists, even Keynesians, who are familiar with Japanese economics refer to its decade of stimulus spending throughout the 90s as "the lost decade", where Japan experienced little or no economic recovery.
You can't give a bleeding man medicine while ignoring the wound. Interest rates are still being held artificially low creating an inefficient demand level for loans, while companies like LendAmerica are still issuing refinancing loans with unconfirmed statements of income. The only difference this time around is the government has promised to insure these new loans against defaulting. We'll have another round of foreclosures and mortgage defaults in another 2-3 years. I hope Obama's healthcare plan works, because we'll have plenty more unemployed people who qualify for it.
Fix the real problem and the economy will recover on it's own.
dustarook-problem with the health care plan who is going to pay for it? With all the unemployed people there will not be enough middle class left to tax. He certainly isn't going to tax his rich friends and neither are the Congress. Obama said he would not stand in the way of Congress implementing a tax on peoples employer group health plans to fund it. This means taxing the middle class again. How you ask? Well most middle class people/families get their insurance through their employer with the employer paying a portion and the employee paying a portion of it pretax. The plan would be to tax the employee against the entire amount of the insurance premium that they get through their employer. Most middle class can not afford to buy insurance outside of their employer. This is the way the rich will get around it most of them can afford to buy their insurance privately and will therefore not be taxed on 'employer provided insurance' as their policy would be private. Leaving the middle class again to bare the cost of insuring everyone else. What the president said is he wouldn't implement it but he wouldn't stop it either. That is the green light for Congress to implement it and skrew the middle class with a tax hike. What will end up happening is that many people will be forced to opt out of their employers insurance plan due to the major increase in taxes leaving more uninsured. Then I am sure that the Congress will pass a law requiring anyone who's employer has insurance to buy it or be penalized anyway........that is what is coming so be prepared.
I think the President is doing a great job; we actually have someone in office who can do more than one thing at a time and speak in complete intelligent sentences. I can see by the current vote status that Rush's ditto heads get up early to vote!
the American people need only look to the former Russian empire to know that socialism doesn't work ... the problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
USSR - Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics - Communism is based on socialism. The state owns everything... including the people.
France = socialist!
Britain = socialist!
RUSSIA = COMMUNIST!
France - Democracy
England - Monarchy
Russia - Democracy
Communism is socialism ... people do not vote... there are no elections
Silvrhawk, you're confusing communism with totalitarianism. The two often coincide, but they're not the same. The only real difference between communism and socialism is that communists are generally militant athiests, while socialists (sometimes) allow for the possible existence of God. Other than that, they are one and the same.
Brisket, please move to somewhere socialist. Without the economic power of capitalist free mareket systems like the US and Japan, the world would still be in the 1950's (Under totalitarian German rule no doubt)
Oh come on....get real. We are not a totally free market capitalist society. There are elements of socialism in our country for sure. Social Security, Unemployment insurance, Medicare for the Elderly, Medicaid for the poor, I could go on. So please get off your bandwagon about capitalism. We are NOT a purely capitalistic society.
These people will never understand economics, socialism, communism, etc., because they get all their information from "entertainers" whose only purpose is to get higher ratings, not stick to facts. The more POed they get this fringe element, the more they will tune in -- more money in Rupert Murdoch's pockets. It's like drugs, and the extreme element of the right (those who could become domestic terrorists) are addicted to anger. That's why the KKK burned crosses and lynched people. They are crazy.
Socialism refers to a broad set of economic theories of social organization advocating state or collective ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods, and the creation of an egalitarian society.
Democracy is a form of government in which the power is held by citizens.
Communism is a form of socialism that abolishes private ownership .
Totalitarianism/dictatorship: a form of government in which the ruler is an absolute dictator (not restricted by a constitution or laws or opposition etc.
Last year we were a Democracy. Then the Dems elected Obama and he is turning America into a Socialist govenrment. Before the next 100 days we may be Communist and before the end of his term (which maynot end because we may lose our right to vote because we are no longer a democracy- USA will be Totalitarianist government. Our constitution does not suit Obama's needs or goals so we may end up losing it. If Texas secedes- I am booking a flight to Dallas!
educatedwhitegirl - you clearly are not that. Last year we were not a democracy, we were a rebuplic. We have been a republic since 1787 and the ratification of the constitution. We continue to be a republic today and will continue to be so tomorrow, despite doomsday-sayers.
These comments over the end of the USA are no different than those of the Democrats during Bush's term. They feared the loss of all of our rights (much of the patriot act is actually explicility un-constitutional and ruled so by the courts as was and is Gitmo) and the destruction of our status throughout the world. We got through Bush and we will get through Obama. He may even turn out to be less of a media whore than he seems to be right now and actually be good for our contry.
Polish Proverb. In capitalism, one man takes from another man, in socialism the reverse is true.
If you knew anything about our history, you would know we are a representative republic, not a democracy, look at the Pledge of Allegiance, where representatives do the will of the people. Sure wish we could have true representatives today.
Socialism is a governing concept, true communism is an economic concept.
Never the twain shall meet, there is no relationship between the two, just confusion.
Unless you are brisket_boi, then you are a socialist commie....:-)
So we have a socialistic representative republic.
What's wrong with that? I like it! SRR!
Sweden, Findland, Denmark, Norway - all socialist democracies. None of them have collapsed. All of them are full of happy people. It would be fine with me if we adopt some of their policies. Everyone is guarenteed basic human necessities, food, shelter, medical care etc. They have very, very low rates of children living in poverty. I personally remember not having food in the fridge when I was a kid and I know there a millions of kids going hungry in this country. That's apalling. I think people should learn about what socialism is and what forms it exists in today before they demonize it. Conservatives throw that term around a lot to scare people.
To all of you that are promoting Socialism; clearly you have NEVER lived in a socialist country. Please live in Cuba for a month. Not in the tourist area. Live the way the common people live. Use their healthcare and visit their hospitals. Make the lines to get your food ration. Please stop the blaming Bush. Both parties are at fault. We need solutions.
The ones that were not happay left. I know a young man that came to the US from Norway, he won't own a vehicle with OnStar because of the fear of control and being watched.....he loves it hear. He was NOT an Obama supporter either, because he did not want socialism here.
Come on people. We are not going down the tubes. This country is founded upon democracy and will always be that way. We are not turning into socialist, communists or any of the other "ists" and we will not be. We survived Bush and we will survive Obama. Get a grip on life and see what you can do to help the situation. Don't spend all of your time berating the US Government. We are America and the last time I checked, all of the elected officials in the US Government are Americans and they are doing the best they can do to help this country and trying to get it out of this economic mess! Checked the market lately? It is doing much better and every day we read something positive about the economy in our papers. It will get even better if everyone will start acting like Americans and pitch in.
Socialism? Where? Oh you mean the socialism we practice here in American and have been practicing for years and years? Get a life with that socialism crap which is just a fat ass dope addicts ranting that the ditto headed non think for themselves idiots are parroting. Geez get another mentor.
To the person that says she likes Socialism, can you give me on reason why you like it.
Right on Texas Danny! Run for govenor! "It is not what we do in the good times its how we handle the bad times that has defined the American character"- a great American president said that. Do good work, help the orphans and widows and the elderly. Lookout for our neighbors. I had to take a cut in pay- a major one. I live in a camper but you know what? My kids are not starving and can be what ever they want to be. I did my best to instill our American values into them and its taking like my forfathers did. Theyll get a education in the best country in the world for opprutunity, they wont be driving gas guzzling pickups as commuter cars or starting wars for oil, they want to "conserve our resources " and give this beautiful earth a break. We have a great government of the people for the people! We are a strong nation with core values the world admires. You have a choice... lable everything negative cause it sucks to look in the mirror or you can work hard and do your best and come home tonight and have a hotdog and some apple pie and watch the ball game- maybe mow the lawn and kiss the wife...things are good here in the USA!
Right on Texas Danny! Run for govenor! "It is not what we do in the good times its how we handle the bad times that has defined the American character"- a great American president said that. Do good work, help the orphans and widows and the elderly. Lookout for our neighbors. I had to take a cut in pay- a major one. I live in a camper but you know what? My kids are not starving and can be what ever they want to be. I did my best to instill our American values into them and its taking like my forfathers did. Theyll get a education in the best country in the world for opprutunity, they wont be driving gas guzzling pickups as commuter cars or starting wars for oil, they want to "conserve our resources " and give this beautiful earth a break. We have a great government of the people for the people! We are a strong nation with core values the world admires. You have a choice... label everything negative cause it sucks to look in the mirror and your property value came back to reality or you can work hard and do your best and come home tonight and have a hotdog and some apple pie and watch the ball game- maybe mow the lawn and kiss the wife...things are good here in the USA!
I truely believe Obama would socialize our industries, our health care System, our banks and everything he could. I know what Socialism is like because I lived in Cuba for 22 years and I had to leave the country because my sons had no future in Cuba.Fidel made very radical changes. After you make those changes it is very difficult to undo what has been done. Because when people get used to getting things for free they do not want to pay for anything.
Brisket: Park your car in the garage, keep it running and sit back and relax.
Sweden, Findland, Denmark, Norway - all socialist democracies. None of them have collapsed. All of them are full of happy people. It would be fine with me if we adopt some of their policies.
While it is true that these countries have achieved a degree of success with their economic policies, there may be some downsides to adopting them within the US.
It is a tragedy that there are so many people in the US without insurance. I have a freind who fought off cancer in her younger years and as a result is unable to obtain an insurance policy for under 2k per month, employers are justifiably hesitant to foot such an enormous benefits package, making it hard for her to remain employed.
However, the vast majority of medical breakthroughs in the last 30 years can be accredited to the US free market system, and the incentives provided by that system for innovation. Countries like Norway which have achieved a degree of success in socialized healthcare have benefited greatly from America's system of privatized healthcare.
Something needs to be done, but blindly writing checks out to socialized medicaid and healthcare plans as Bush did and as Obama is doing now will not provide sustainable long-term benefits. Disagreeing with some of Obama's policies does not make me a right wing nut-job, it just makes me an economist. There's a better way to help people than with outdated keynesian spending plans.
more divison and fear for our nation's security and future
I agree, I really don't care what side anybody is on, nothing will ever get done as long as there is such a huge division of parties or ideas. Country is falling apart and everybody is crying about he said and then she said. Bush did not incite all this bad behavior but he did not help it and obama is exploiting it. So who is wrong and who is right doesn't matter if everything falls apart.
why don't all these people that voted for change leave the u.s for iran. there not americans . at leased bush did go after the terrist.
Ed,
It's posters like you that give me hope. You are too civilized for this forum, you need to get to a forum that discusses ideas instead of talking points (ceoexpress.com).
I only post here because I like slumming with all the bigots and racists.
Who is doing the dividing? Seems that people here like to blame Obama, but he has continually asked for Republican input. The problem is, they have none. They have no new ideas and tend to vote NO on everything either way. Reaching across the isle does not mean coming to a compromise that you just don't agree with.
The main problem is that there are no moderate Republicans any more. Most of the reps are so far right they have little in common with anyone outside of their small voting base. The couple that are moderates are being run out - look at McCain, for example. Poor guy was sabatotaged by his own party, forced to pick that lunie from Alaska as a running mate to make up for being a moderate himself. The Repubs think compromising means doing things in their old ways that didn't work before (anyone remember "trickle down" economics? Real successful.)
Obama is not perfect, but he is intellegent and trying his best to do what he feels in right for the country. These things take time -
Harbor,
I tried that route once before and did have some success. Still I get angry with all of this rhetoric, from both sides. Everybody has a reason to complain, really they do. However as long as everyone keeps acting like kids here we go again. The Libs are so busy trying to destroy anything Bush did that they miss the point, it's become personal besides I like to talk trash with best of them too. I am funny that way. Repubs are just trying to say whats on their minds but because of Bush bashing it just falls on deaf ears. Personally I think Obama has some wonderful ideas, they are just not very realistic and naive as well. The Dems should try shutting up for just a minute and just maybe somebody else could be heard. Thanks for noticing though.
Teach, you just proved my point, I get angry just like anybody else does, if I have to explain it to you, it would just fall on deaf ears period. Do you hate republicans so much that you can't see straight because that is how I am starting to feel towards Dems just for having a difference of opinion( I am an independent, I go with who makes sense, I am still waiting). I do not like having to explain myself to every Dem then get insulted. Bush was not over sea's blaming Clinton he dealt with the situation as best as he could right or wrong. Obama needs to start acting like an adult and do his job period. So before you get out of your high chair; I am not a fan of the trigger happy redneck president but I am even less of a fan of the crybaby obama. So stuff that up your teleprompter you self rightous idiot.
Have you ever listened to one of Obama's overseas speeches, or do you simply rely on people's blogs to tell you what Obama has said? Obama has apologized for the way Bush treated other countries, and correctly blames him for our poor relations with most of the world. He does not apologize for being an American, nor have I ever heard him apologize for the American people as a whole.
As far as insulting you - that was not my intent. In fact, I totally agree that the parties have to find some common ground and American's shouldn't fight with each other just because they have different political leanings. As an independant, do you not agree with the statement that the few Republican's left seem to be extremely to the right? That perhaps the Republican party is losing ground because they will not come closer to the middle?
I do not see Obama as a cry-baby, I can see you do. Fine. Unlike you, I do not get angry when reading posts. In fact, I often laugh (not at yours in particular, at some of the more off the wall posts) at both sides. I do not hate Republicans, but feel that many do hate me, a liberal - notice, I didn't say Democrat, just liberal. I think Bush2 was one of the worst presidents ever, but not because he was a Republican, just because he made so many poor decisions.
Take care
Teach,
I apologize for being so offensive, what I wrote was pretty ugly. I am just frustrated is all. I have tried to ask more questions from before, not these postings but on others and I have had too many people call me names for just asking. I am not pretending that I know everything thats why I read some of these posts and check out what people are reffering to when they talk about facts. I will tell you this as you said you don't see him as a crybaby. I will always argue that point, it's a matter of perception I suppose. I do agree with you on your views of the Republican parties but the Democrats are just as guilty and Obama is leading the charge. I do not think it's intentional but at the least he does not help it either. The Republicans were not happy with Bush all the time either and now because of Bush their voices are no longer heard, nobody to listen. I do not hate Bush , I feel he did the best that he could under some pretty extreme circumstances and he shouldn't be used as a scapegoat, we need to move forward not go around in circles. Sorry again, you seem to be a reasonable person.
Take care
Why do we have to apologize for being Americans? Obama thinks we do. Well, he isn't an American citizen, so I guess that's why. He was born in Kenya, not the U.S. Our constitution says that you must be a natural born citizen to be president. He isn't. More to come...he will be the biggest disaster this country has ever seen since Jimmy Carter.
President Obama may have a lot on his plate and it may look as though little has changed to you but you're a @!$%#in moron for that stupid propaganda comment about his birth in Kenya. Stop being such a hatin', we lost waa waa waa, dork...
You moron. He was born in Hawaii, not Kenya. His FATHER is Kenyan.
typical ignorant response...."waawaawaa.dork". So insightful.
Simple truth......BO's PARTY bought and paid for his win. The party out campaigned (foolish) McCain , mixed the best tasting "koolaid" and sold you on the ideas you will recieve more govt assistance than you are already getting.
Cliff--
All those stupid rumors (like your citizenship one) were fact checked and disproven ages ago. How in the world can you manage not to know that??
Cliff, Obama didn't apologize for being American. He was apologizing for NOT being American. You know, that concept of freedom that took us over 200 years to build and only 8 years to tear down!
As long as Americans adhere to the qualities that have made us the envy of the world, we are right. When we stoop to the level of our enemies, we are wrong.
Bush couldn't have done half the things he did without the approval of the House and Senate so when your calling each other names do it while looking inthe mirror because your the ones who keep electing the same people over and over and expecting different results. America first not the party.
President Obama was born in Hawaii, not Kenya. His father was from Kenya, Africa. Get your facts straight before you put it on the Internet.
If born in the US, why won't he show his Birth Certificate (not Certificate of Live Birth)! Which hospital was he born in? Who was the delivering doctor? You know, the same Birth Certificate the rest of us have to show to prove our citizenship!! Why are all his school records sealed? Why did his grandmother on his father's side say she was at his birth in Kenya? Lots of questions. Just because someone in Hawaii says he's a US Citizen, do we have to believe that? Where's the proof and why is it being hidden? I have to show mine, why doesn't he have to show his? Presidential privilege?
Cliff, you're a stupid hick who has seen or done absolutely NOTHING in your poor little life. You hide in the dreadful era of Bush and his thugs who ran our country into the ground. And don't you dare insult Carter, he is a much better American and HUMAN BEING than the majority of people.
If born in the US, why won't he show his Birth Certificate (not Certificate of Live Birth)! Which hospital was he born in? Who was the delivering doctor? You know, the same Birth Certificate the rest of us have to show to prove our citizenship!!
Take some time off from your cave painting to research the facts. The Obama birth certificate conspiracy has been beaten to death. His birth certificate can be found all over the Internet with a few clicks of a button on any search engine. For some reason I can't seem to find the Birth certificate for GW Bush or Rush Limbaugh. I can find one for John McCain, but it's too blurry to read. What are THEY hiding?
Why are all his school records sealed? Why did his grandmother on his father's side say she was at his birth in Kenya? Lots of questions. Just because someone in Hawaii says he's a US Citizen, do we have to believe that?
Hawaii became a state in 1959. Obama was born in 1962. I'm sure your birth certificate shows where and when you were born. Why should I believe that? It's just a piece of paper!
Where's the proof and why is it being hidden? I have to show mine, why doesn't he have to show his? Presidential privilege?
I believe the only times in my life that I have ever been asked for my birth certificate were when I first applied for a Social Security card and a Drivers License.
If he had nothing to hide, was going to put transparency in government, why doesn't he just show the birth certificate?
Politics is 90% perception, he knows that, what is he hiding?
Cliff, any search engine on the Internet will find his birth certificate for you. And by the way, McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone...does that mean he's not a citizen?
Any child born of a US citizen IS a US citizen. So, McCain is a citizen even though he was born outside the US, and President Obama, whose mother was born in Kansas, is a citizen based upon his mother's citizenship, even if he had not been born in Hawaii, which he was. Don't continue to spout off misinformation until you get the facts.
And by the way, it will probably take the new president more than 100 days to even BEGIN to clean up the mess the old president took 8 years to create. It took Bush that long to turn Clinton's surplus into a record-shattering deficit. And we cannot end 2 wars in 100 days. Bush's disastrous reign as imperial president will haunt us for decades to come.
Thank you samdaman...I agree with you. I honestly can't believe such f$%^ing retards live in this world.
So, since one must be a "natural born" citizen to become president of the United States, a test-tube baby doesn't qualify, right?
Before anyone (ie. government contractor, certain military personnel, SENATORS, congressmen, etc.) is given the required security clearance to perform certain duties required by their job or position, an extensive background check (including such information as date and place of birth) is performed! As much as I disagree with his position on certain issues or his agreement with other liberals to spend all our future taxes today, he is a citizen and the current president of this country. God bless America. God bless all the citizens of America. And God bless the President of the United States of America!
Another voice from the past that has no clue.... We put that one to bed moths ago you must have missed it.
I agree 100% ! If he was born in Hawaii, you'd think that the hospital where he was supposedly born would want it known that the 1st half black president was born there. Anyone know which hospital that might be? Hmmmmm...
Well David ...This president has improved our Mind Sets he has given a sense of optimism and the hope that we can hold are heads high and maybe be civil to one another not have to be labeled liberal or conservative....just be Americanswith different points of view and then come together at work on those differences...And running around the world gives our foreign counterparts and enemies that same sense...God Bless The President and the USA
Well Emily, You need to stop being Pollyanna and start living in a real world. When the terrorists come to rape you and kill your family because they hate you even though they don't know you do you think your singing Kumbaya and preaching living with different view points will stop their aggression? By the way, where is the "coming together" Bumbo preached during the campaign?? The change? He is a total lying loser just like every politician in DC. Wipe them all out and start over.
Native Texan,,,,unfortunately I don't have to wait for the terrorists to come and rape and pillage there is a group of terrorist right here in Texas that hate me and my kind and would shoot me on site if I show alliance to my President I know that's true and so do you. So are you a member of "The Club for Growth" or just some rich Butt that wants all the poor in homeless shelters because you "Think" that they don't work what you don't realize is your GREED is killing us.
God Bless The President and The USA
Do all of you Texans believe that someone is "out to get you" "rape" and "kill you"....geeeez wizzzz where have we heard that before???? oh you forgot weapons of mass destruction??? I guess its true HATRED is contagious....?
Michael-561640
No Mike is just that "Governor Perry" ex "Governor George Bush" "mentality" Tax the poor everything for the Rich and Richer!
Obama is a blow hard and a show boat. And he hasn't actually done a thing.
Emily Robinson, you are either a liar or know nothing about Texas (other than the names of the last two governors). Governor Perry's mentality is not to tax the poor...or anyone else, for that matter. Texas is one of the few states in the Union that doesn't have a state income tax...which means we're freer here than in whatever left-wing state you come from.
ok that was an ignorant comment considering the rich have always been paying more taxes than the poor. Everyone should be taxed with an equal percentage. That way no one can complain. aren't we all equals?
Emily, I lived in Texas for 20 years and you are so wrong. You have the Obama mentality, the successful American owes. Since when is it wrong in America to make a decent living? I've worked all my life, paid taxes and obeyed the rules. Guess I should have just put my hand out, sounds like they're getting all the glory these days, some one who works hard and makes a good living is looked down upon, what's wrong with this picture? And as far as the governors you mentioned, Perry is doing a fine job, and so did Bush.
But the liberal " support me 'cause I am being held back" morons don't pay taxes. They want to tax the rich even more. If they believe this socialist agenda is good, wait til we have start paying for it with taxes that will never go away.
Chronic Thinker Of course not Governor Perry's agenda is Cession? Wants Texas to leave the union
Pam we don't pay State Tax but they Tax the Hell out of your Property...Nothing wrong with Wealth its the GREED that's wrong any way you look at it,.
Steve-- I have never been held Back just Being Being Robbed by Greedy member of the REpublican/Conservatives "CLUB FOR GROWTH
Wake up everybody no more sleep-in n bed
Go America Go President Obama God Bless the USA:)
Emily, "You Go Girl"!!! Your 100% correct. These people are haters pure and simple. Pay them no attention. They are self destructing as we speak!
Wow greed is only a republican problem your parents must be very proud to have such an intelligent daughter
Emily: "Chronic Thinker Of course not Governor Perry's agenda is Cession? Wants Texas to leave the union"
No, he doesn't. He just doesn't want to take away our money in the form of Obama's sham "stimulus" plan. As usual, you've been misinformed.
Emily, greed is when people want something for nothing. Since when did working for a living and being successful be considered greed. Oh, yeah, that would be Obama thinking.
He said selfishness is not a virtue. Perhaps he should look at those who always have a hand out but never want to do anything to improve their lives since the government will take care of them. That is selfishness and greed. Hope that clears it up for you.
John Galt ~ If its virtuous to give, then isnt it shelfish to take?
Personal responsibility, earned rewards, individual liberties
versus
Victim Mentality, unearned rewards, collectivism
Hmmmmmmm.....thats a hard one.
i would like to say. that all those who voted for obama and nancy pelosi that want change. which the kinda change he is bringing is not good at all. everyone can argue . but the real fact is we are living in the end times and i can tell you that israel don't have to have obama's permission to go into iran. it's getting ready to start. are you blinded people ready.
Emily:
There are no real patriots anymore. They all died a long time ago. The only true Americans were the poeple who signed the Declaration of Independance, which has been bastardized by people like Obama since its inception. Our system of government is being shat upon, our future is completely in doubt due to government spending (it will come back on us ten-fold), and the only positive press I see in his first hundred days is that he got a god-damned dog (that was not from an animal shelter, by the way).
For all you bleeding-hearts out there, may I offer you this:
Given the experience of this man as a US Senator, I formulate this opinion; Electing this man as our President is likened to promoting the drive-thru attendant at your local McDonalds to CEO of the company. Arguing this point is useless, as he has already proven it time and time again (he has NO right to be in the White House)
Wow stings:
Good analogy, we should make it a law that no senator runs for the presidency, it's an automatic conflict of interest.
Stings -
I believe his "right" to be in the White House is that he was ELECTED President by the people of this country. So say what you will about him, WE put him there, and he deserves to be there, doing the job WE elected him to do. Let's give him his four years. Enough already.
When the terrorists come to rape you and kill your family because they hate you
Yeah, this stays collapsed. Try to engage without the terrist rape hypothetical, NativeTexan. Criminy.
His foreign policy mistakes, ridiculous spending, and mishandling of proven interrogation methods earn the president an F.
Bush's foreign policy mistakes made us the most hated country on earth. His profilgate spending turned a budget surplus into the worst deficit this country has ever known. And it has been proven time and time again that torture does NOT work. Even Senator McCain, who WAS tortured, said so.
So...I assume the F grade you have assigned is for the LAST president?
This president has probably caused more long term economic damage to the US than any other president in history. You can't blame Bush for pushing the largest ever pork project disguised as a stimulus package.
No thats true you can't blame Bush for that because he was too busy playing with his toy soldiers to notice the economy was in a dive...But what I will blame Bush for is destroying this countries ability to abide by the rule of law. It was perfectly ok to commit acts of terroism on other countries and spy on our own people with absolute arrogance to the framers and our sacred Constitution. Those of you who want to disagree with President Obama at least ought to thank him as you can enjoy the rule of law again including your precious 2nd amendment. Torture is over, other than reading some of your comments here,LOL!!! Have the HOPE to HAVE the PEACE...out
Obama has expanded the wire tapping and rendition is still being done
The pork filled stimulus package was more by democrats than republicans. Have you even read this sorry excuse for a stimulus package?? how many million to the research of pig manure smell? and how much more billions to wasteful projects? MOST VOTED FOR AND MOST WRITTEN BY DEMOCRATS! America has bcome so blind it scares me. Just watch CNN to see how biased the media has become...you can talk trash about bush but say one negative thing about obama they cut you off even if it is a true statement.
Michael-561640:
The rule of law? People like you that don't tell the truth when financing your home so they can buy toys. That's torture to me. I bet you break more laws on a daily basis (speeding, smoking pot, lying on your taxes, the list could go on). People like you that live in glass houses shouldn't start rock fights.
I've been water-boarded by the military and my college frat. It's only torture if you think they will drown you, it's training any other time. Bet you would do it in a flash (or worse) to someone who is threatening your family's existence or kidnapped your offspring.
Rule of Law, what a hypocrite. I don't think the people who lost family members in 9/11 will not agree that this is real torture. Only those that have never suffered that loss would think your way.
IT SAVED AMERICAN LIVES, I KNOW YOU DON"T CARE ABOUT THAT, YOU WEREN'T IN HARMS WAY (unless you live in LA).
If I get captured by any other forces in this world (including the ones subscribed to Geneva Conventions), then I'll be really tortured. Usually its a rifle butt stroke to the head or limb, breaking something. Been there and seen it, got the cuzzy cup and t-shirt.
But then to turn around and release documents telling our enemy what to expect, giving away the play book, that's stuck on stupid and just for political reasons. Shades of Jane Fonda. That got Obama an "F" right there.
I hope we get a special investigation into this, lets prosecute all those involved. Then all military personnel will get to class action sue all back administrations that started this training on soldiers, I mean, if waterboarding is torture, I can own my old college.
That would go back to Kennedy and the green berets. Lets get them all.
The "biggest deficit since the Great Depression" hasn't been seen yet because Obama and the democrats aren't done spending and bailing out the undeserving. You'll see, when the "stimulating" is over - we've been screwed!! Hope you enjoy it.
Your right about the pork. Republican state get most of it. There is a great site for state by state federal government expenditures. You can also look at the deficit at zfacts.com. The deficit is 20% of what it was at the end of world war 2 which set up the greatest period of economic prosperity in history. We got more money in money market than the deficit. Arizona is number one in federal pork i assume you dummy's consider ss as pork.
torture only work on witches, and to establish a link between al quida and Saddam which turned out to be a lie.
Obama smarter than any body on the other side.
The man was campaigning for years before the election - he didn't have a clue before then how to accomplish anything and he has proven that he continues to not have a clue. I fear this country is in for very dark days indeed!
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Note, when you have possible serious flu in Mexico, and the borders are not being controlled any better than they were(which is bad in itself),the situation in NYC with the jet yesterday, cap n trade being discussed (which will really hurt the economy and jobs situation,), a president who cannot give a speech without totally relying on the telepromper, and a government who doesnt listen to or care about its own people (esp. the taxpayers), there is definately something very very very wrong in our once proud country. Yes Mature Grits, we are in for some very dark days indeed.
Hindsight is 20-20. I saw this train wreck coming early last summer, so I liquidated my business, cashed in all my 401Ks and retired last September, really glad I did.
Jimmiesgirl, have you forgotten about the planes in New York on September 11, 2001? It was YOUR president who was on vacation when the threat was presented to him, and YOUR president who sat in a classroom reading a story for 7 minutes after those planes attacked on HIS WATCH.
And as for the teleprompter...EVERYONE USES THEM. Even Bush, who could barely pronounce the words printed for him. Is that the best you Obama haters can do? Teleprompter insults? Get a grip.
No Carolanne:
There is a lot more substance to the criticisms of Obama than the teleprompter. That's the only thing you can key on and debate. You're still stuck on the hate bush mindset. Please come up with an original idea.
How about the planes over New York yesterday? Bet you don't answer.
Bet I do. NYPD was aware of that flyover...THEY declined to make it public. A huge mistake, absolutely. But yesterday's plane was a mistake. Not a massacre. Bush was told 9/11 was inevitable, and soon. HE declined to do anything to prevent it.
Sorry, cable interrupted service problems.
NYPD was told it was classified and not for public disemination. A Classified Photo Op, yeah. It was classified by Obama's administration, or are you blaming that on Bush too.
Your postings indicate that mindset.
Now lets talk about the traitorous torture memos being released.
I've been water-boarded by the military and my college frat. It's only torture if you think they will drown you, it's training any other time. Bet you would do it in a flash (or worse) to someone who is threatening your family's existence or kidnapped your offspring.
If I get captured by any other forces in this world (including the ones subscribed to Geneva Conventions), then I'll be really tortured. Usually its a rifle butt stroke to the head or limb, breaking something. Been there and seen it, got the cuzzy cup and t-shirt.
But then to turn around and release documents telling our enemy what to expect, giving away the play book, that's stuck on stupid and just for political reasons. Shades of Jane Fonda. That got Obama an "F" right there.
I hope we get a special investigation into this, lets prosecute all those involved. Then all military personnel will get to class action sue all back administrations that started this training on soldiers, I mean, if waterboarding is torture, I can own my old college.
That would go back to Kennedy and the green berets. Lets get them all.
While I'm on that topic, I like the idea of being able to go back and prosecute previous administrations for different interpretations of the law. Can we do it to Congress also?
Barney Frank and Dodd better make sure that doesn't happen, cause a lot of people will join in on that class action suit. How many millions did they give away. How many 401 losses could be considered damages?
carolanne I noticed that you didnt make a comment on any of the other things that I mentioned.
For the first time since I can remember I have some hope for my Family and Grandchildren that we might be able to survive financially and morally in this crazy violent world. I think President Obama is doing more than anyone has done in a very long time.
Did you get a bailout? Cause we didn't and all I see is prices going up, taxes going up. I don't know what bubble you are in.
Bev - you need to take a look at the funds the charlatan has already thrown to the winds - you, your children, your grandchildren, your great-grandchildren WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO PAY OFF THE DEBT THIS IDIOT HAS PLACED UPON THIS COUNTRY.
Bev Raver how can you say morally??? Obama wants to legalize partial birth abortions AND stem cell research. There is nothing even remotely moral about either of those two baby killing pieces of legislation.
Jo Fowler its amazing how people of your ilk always talk about killing babies when their in the womb but the minute they are born to kick them to the curb take them from their mothers, put them in foster homes, deny them education, food and shelter,,,,give me a break!
Bev Raver The Gov. can not provide all the thing for you that all us people that work have.Being invieous of working people,and worshiping Big Ears will only bring more disapointment,and bring great damage to the country!!!!
Funny how he goes to Mexico City and a terrible swine flu epidemic occurs!!! Can you say ANTICHRIST. 1st of many plagues to come!!!!!!!!!! I'm joking but it makes ya wonder.
This is the kind of dumb reasoning that only people that want handouts believe. Obama's economics are just a Ponsi scheme. He couldn't run a hot dog stand. His foreign policy is worse. Kissing up to dictators! Hopefully we can survive 4yrs. & get rid of this duck.
You must be one of the ones who benefitted from his so called stimulus bill. Your children and grandchildren and we will be paying for this for decades. In addition, obama has taken away many of our freedoms, and is morally taken us down a slipperly slope. My company or my family have gotten no benefit from him in fact my employer is in worse shape .
Jimmiesgirl. Our children and grandchildren will be paying for Bush's asinine, immoral policies for generations to come. And don't expect Haliburton to help them out. My company and my family saw our lives and futures deteriorate by the misguided efforts of Bush and his ilk.
Bev,
Can I have some of the drugs you are obviously using? Moral? I don't think so!! What moral thing has he done? Financially? We, our children and grand children will be paying ofr the rest of their lives for his reckless spending. You must be in the group of "take care of me" people this admin. is expanding.
Obviously you think Palin would have done better.................she can see russia from her kitchen window in alaska and you want her to run a country......or Mccain who put son $5000 shoes to understand that you will not be getting a social security check at 65 when he pays more then what you probably will get from social security per month on his shoes..........hhmmmmmmmmm
Prior to Obama taking office , we already knew that social security was bankrucpt all thanks to bush and you are blaming Obama for what exactly???????
Lowering interest rates especially for mortgages , loans, bailing out some companies ,senate trying to go after the credit card companies....this is what is called damage control .
Hmm.........keep looking at Russia..........
I'm sorry. Who said she could see Russia from her porch? I was not Palin it was a commedian. But judging by your comment I can see that that is where you get your information, from commedians.
What a joke.
Are you blind? Your Children and Grandchildren will be the ones paying for Obama's agenda. Wow, talk about spin!
All you nay Sayers make me sick! Do you truly think that this current mess could be fixed in only 100 days? Are you that naive? Anyone with any brain at all could have seen the financial mess coming at us like a tsunami. For those who are blind lets go over the basics, Home prices went through the roof for at least the last 8 years, medical in this country was and is way out of hand and that didn't happen in just the last 100 days, and financing anything has been exploited to the point that any disruption should have put the entire country into bankruptcy.
We have a president step into this mess and all you can do is bad mouth him? And as far as worrying about our kids and grand-kids paying for all this, where was this worry a couple of years ago when everyone was going credit crazy? Perhaps you should stop blaming others and look at yourselves first!
tayo-shy town:
Have you been moonlighting in Sarah's kitchen? As for McCain, obviously you did not marry well.
McCain is rich due to time in Senate (like Obama), and then he married really, really well. If I was married to her, I'd let her buy me $5,000 shoes, and get me one of those $1,200 "Bill Clinton" haircuts.
Seriously, Bush bankrupt social security? You really do get your information from comedians.
emdillman - it was Palin who said that she considered her foreign policy skills to be strong because Russia was so close to her state, and so was Canada. The comedian simply put the joke spin on it.
Joy - math 101; "inherited" deficit: in Billions. Spending in less than 1st 100 days: in Trillions. See the difference? The trillions are being spent on Obama's watch - he can't blame that on Bush. You can't blame the AIG bailout on Bush. You can't blame the auto industry bailout on Bush. You can't blame any automaker bankruptcies on Bush. You can't blame Bush for the trillions our grandkids now owe in taxes. Okay - you can blame Bush. But, you'll never find the truth by chasing after a myth.
Huge mess to clean up. Give the man a chance. It took years of failure for the US to be in its current state. It's only been four months!
Unemployed 101;Thank you for a rational comment. I feel so frustrated and embarressed at these truly stupid put downs of OUR President by those who seem to limit their reading to cartoons and their listening to sen. Bachman, Mr.Limburger and their ilk.
I am especially impressed tht someone who is currently unemployed and suffering from the decades of Republicans mismanagement of our nation's domestic and international needs can keep his or her cool and see things clearly. Good luck in your search for work. Some company will be lucky to get such a clear thinker.
"Decades of Republican mismanagement" LOL
Hey, guess what, sparky? With the exception of a 12-year period that saw the most economic growth since the early 1920s, the Democrats have been in charge. They are the ones responsible for our current problems, not the Republicans.
Excuse me A Military Vet for Obama but you are very wrong. Obama is NOT MY president. I didn't vote for him, I don't acknowledge him as the leader of MY country. He is a crappy figurehead that the Democratic party manuevered into his position so that they could control the government. The reason we are in such bad shaped is just that. Every Decomcrat has their own agenda. Never mind the whole reason of an election. Our vites as citizens in this country don't mean didly squat! The electoral college is what elected Obama into office and the Electoral votes come from the smallest crappiest inner cities there are so that the Bleeding-Heart Liberals can rule the country. As a Miltary Vet you ought to know that HS under his adminsitration considers you to be a right-wing extremist. Andy BTW keep an eye on your constitutional rights. The clock is ticking.
welcome back from whereever you have been. I think you missed 8 years .You might need to read up quite a few articles to catch up with the times.
Seriously if the last 8 years is your idea of economic growth, i do feel sorry for you or maybe i should no t. You must be a defense contractor.
educatedwhitegirl,
You are so immature. Lets talk about the constitutional rights, do you smoke? I do and It makes me happy but the "people" who claim it's bad for anyone is making it almost impossible to afford in a lame attempt to make everyone quit. Is it ok in this country to force someone to do what others wish? How about that? I think it interferes with my pursuit of happiness. Isn't that my constitutional right?
The country's mess is one started before Bush - we must remember the President does not pass the bills and the laws it's the Democratic run Congress.....Obama hasn't done a lot, and don't think he will - but he's the President and we as Americans should at least respect that....
educated white girl -
If the electoral college caters to the "bleeding heart liberals" of the inner cities, how do you explain the Bush victories? The Reagan years? Obama was elected not only by the electoral college, but by the popular vote, unlike President Bush. If you indeed are educated, better do some fact checking.
Oh, as a citizen of the U.S., he is your President, even if you didn't vote for him.
A military vet for Obama:
I don't think you are a vet, probably one of those pretenders.
Your opinions run counter to ALL my military buddies, but then they were all lifers and you probably didn't even serve.
If you did, you must have taken a lot of harassment from the other guys, or was in the closet about supporting Obama.
How can you support the Jane Fonda of this generation? The trumped up torture memos would have gotten you executed for releasing. He did it for the same political reasons as Jane Fonda. Talk to your navy seal buddies, if you have any, for the real story on the pirates.
I have read that the naysayers and haters are on this site at the direction of Faux news and other Rightie websites. Typically, this site does not offer such an explosion of hateful and right-wing commentary. I personally welcome reasonable discourse on a subject, but the venom being spewed on this site is quite another thing. Throttle back, we're all Americans and we're all entitled to our opinion and rating of the President's performance. We do not have to battle each other to state our opinion. I believe the President is doing a tremendous job and I support his agenda.
Joy, I inhale. I prefer fresh air. Have you read the warning on the side of your cigarette pack? ...watched your dad die from emphezyma? Secondhand smoke is a violation of my rights. I'll defend your right to smoke - but, not around me!
unemployed 101 wake up and smell the roses manure, and horses this man just created another 5000 jobs lost and unemployment rise of 5000 here in WA state alone he is not helping us he is killing our country per big Kenya daddy's order after all big Kenya daddy is really the one running our country now not Barrak Obama, he is not strong enough to have the reins in his hands he bows to his fathers wishes his father is a muslim leader in Kenya and his mother was from Hawaii, she recorded his birth as an american born abroad so that he could have american citizenship but believe it he is from Kenya and is not american nor is he in charge he is following his fathers direction cutting our country down one step at a time
Thank you President Obama. You are supported by those who want our country to move forward and heal. Ignore the naysayers and the negativity they spew.
Things were great in the George W. Bush era? Who are you, Osama Bin Laden?
THANKS JJ-317453. We are in the mess that we are in due to G W Bush and it's amazing to hear some "educated" opinions saying it's Obama's recession or it's his fault and all the other stuff. Where on earth have they been for the last 8 years...........locked up???????????.
Every american is partly responsible cause we voted or allowed him to cheat his way in (depends on how you want to look at it) and to make it worse we let him just run wild with decisions. He vetoed every decisions/suggestions from the senate that was against what he wanted , but we are going through every decisions, suggestions, hand motion, facial expression and everything else that Obama is doing.
It's just amazing..........a lot of people do not read enough and some do not understand what they read. His recklessness not only messed up our economy but as now triggered a global recession with the iraq war which was the greatest mistake and costly decision that has ever happened to this country.
People like Frosty express have made up their own opinions and drawn their conclusions about things like healthcare without getting the in-depth detail..... like the healthcare system we have now is the best.......duhhhhhh. You are complaining that he is spending money....at least the money being spent is going into our economy and not some defense contractor's pocket (who probably has an offshore account) or into iraq. They have spent the stimulus in auto industries, insurance, banks.........
At least let him try before you start judging unfairly. He can't clean up 8 years mess in short time............. every good thing takes time. Be patient and prayerful .We were patient for the mess to pile up for 8years so apply same patience .
I agree, Tayo. I am really wondering about this forum, it seems to be an anti American hate-fest . Yes, it seems to be anti America, where we all live, and where we the majority of the people elected President Obama, in spite of the spiteful idiots who spent the whole presidential campaign calling him names. News flash. His middle name is not "God". He can't fix everything in 100 days, nor did he ever promise to. If Americans will all do something to help fix this mess, instead of this uninformed, misspelled, barely coherent vitriol, then maybe we will have something to look forward to. If you are not part of the solution, are you not part of the problem?
Obama, what a joke. He has done nothing for this country except extend the governemts control. Stimulas packages are a joke, its like putting a band aid on bledding wound, making people feel good while the country goes through some hard times. Except how know do we pay this money back? By taxing businesses and the rich more? That makes no sense how are businesses ever supposed to come out of a recession if they have to pay more of their profits to the government. The ridiculous spending will end up costing everyone alot more than the 500 you will get back on your paychecks. The government says they structure these bank bailouts well but now Obama and his administration are not allowing these banks to payback the money they borrowed when they can or want. the governemnt wants to have some ownership and control over these organizations and guess what now they do. We are bailing at GM because the UAW wont take a paycut and in the long scheme of things thats whats breaking that company. But Obama wouldnt say that a union organization is the key problem, that would lose him votes. So instead he gives millions to a company without fixing the real problem. You Obama people think that because hes throwing money all over place everything will be fine, but dont see that the problem is hes just throwing money around and not fixing any of the problems. The problem is the greed in this country is out of control, probally why they are fine with Obama throwing cash at them People think they are entitled to health care, to not lose their house, to jobs, to a college education, but whatever happened to earning them. you lose your house well that sucks guess you should have bought a house you could afford. You want health care well maybe you should go get a job, or work to get a job that provides benefits not expect your governemt should give it to you. Really all your doing is making people making over 250K pay ur bills. but guess what happens when they start getting taxed more to payyour health care they will have less to spend and businesses, supporting the economy. If you want to create jobs, and wealth for all then tax the rich less not more, the more money they have to spend the better it will be for everyone, not the other way around. I know that you Obama lovers will hate this because heaven forbid you say something against the great Obama, a one term senator arely in D.C., rich black lawyer. you here his words of encouragement but understand what he is actually saying hes gonna do. Ill give him a A for public speaking, as well as an A for being a dumbass. Alrgiht well I got to get back to my real job.
No one can be this narrow thinking. It is our business leaders making 400 - 500 - even 900 hundred times the average worker who placed us in this mess. They were able to this because there is no trickle down effect of making the rich richer. No one person is worth $1,000,000.00 a year let alone $24,000,000.00.
Somewhere around the $500,000.00 non-adjusted income mark the 38% effective rate should increase to 50% on every dollar in excess of $500,000.00. That should increase to 75% at $1,000,000.00 and 90% at $1,500,000.00. Individuals should be required to pay into social security and Medicare on every dollar of income with a $100,000 salary cap for the employers proportional contribution.
We need tax incentive for business to expand production in America including tax credits for capital investment.
Oh by the way at 61 years of age I am unemployed. It is the first time I have been out of work since I 16 years of age. My health care is being out savings, as is my monthly bills. I have been looking for employment since January 5, 2009.
I there is a dumb-ass in the group perhaps it is you. Why would anyone with a job use their employer's resources and time to write a message that includes a message telling people to go out and get a job to pay for health insurance. Stop stealing your employers resources.
R crouse it is those people making that kind of money providing jobs. The top earners all ready pay 90% of taxes if you keep taxing them they will cut jobs stop investing and the markets will suffer. If you generate 20 million dollars then you deserve a million a year. You wouldn't be complaining if you mad a mill a year. I agree with your views on tax cuts for small business but one of the incentives to succeed is the pay. If you got taxed 50% on every dollar after 500,000 and owned a small business what is the incentive to expand? You put in the extra time hire extra employees but only reap half the reward..whats the point? Last time I checked life isn't fair and you shouldn't have to pay 40% of your income to a government that wastes it!
This is the worse president the United States has ever had. He is trying to implement government health care which will kill hundreds of thousands of people because they will be given care based on their age and health condition, if they are older, and sick they will not get the needed treatment. The has made the citizens of the United States an owner of a car company (government motors, GM), He has said the US is the blame for all of the problems in the world. He cannot stop gun ownership, but he is trying to control the ammunition for the guns. What is he doing? He is making this a socialist country. He has spent more of our money trying to spend our way out of debt. You cannot spend your way out of debt. Wake up America!!!!!!!!!
Frosty: I am impressed. You know how the health system will work and who it will service and how well we will be serviced -- and the entire project and concept is still in the planning stages. Your crystal ball must be top of the line WalMart.
Frosty's statement: You cannot spend your way out of debt. Wake up America!!!!!!!!!
Sorry, you are wrong again. According to the most brilliant economists throughout the world,not just here, it is exactly how to get out of a recession -- encourage citizens to spend more so the economy will start moving again. It;s like breaking up sludge in a creek so the water can flow rapidly again. Uh, by the way, that's why it's called a Stimulation Plan.
Incidentally, all money spent on mutally used projects, including roads and bridges, could be called Socialist since they serve all of us. Ohhhhh. boredom.
Have a good day.
Militay Vet, where are the American's going to get this money to spend? We will be so busy paying back the government for the debt there will be nothing left over to spend. And right now, anyone who is spending must be receiving a check from the government, I am working and have no intention of spending just to spend, that is not how I handle my finances.
Military Vet,
"According to the most brilliant economists.... encourage citizens to spend more so the economy will start moving again." Obama's Stimulus (not Stimulation) Plan has the government spending money, not citizens. And the cost of the government spending will require higher taxes, thereby reducing the amount of money the citizens have to spend our way out of the recession.
And as for the money spent on mutually used projects, only a very, very small percentage of the Stimulus money is for such items.
All that being said, I gave President Obama a "C" because it is just too early to judge whether what he is doing will be good, bad or neutral. I don't believe that so much government spending and takeover of private business (banks and auto industry) is the way to fix our economy. But I'm reserving judgment and hope I'm wrong.
This is the most stupid comment I ever read !! I live in a country who has Universal health care, and it works great !! It is cheap, I see any doctor I want, and will get any test or surgery if I ever need. Our government does not get involved in our medical decision, only doctors and patients does.
Why do you think all other industrialized countries have Universal health care, you idiot ? Let's see how many are for and how many are against : 450 million people in Europe, 25 millions in Canada, 35 millions more in Australia and New Zealand and let's add a couple hundred and fifty million of americans who wants it... What's left ?? a small minority of maybe a hundred million who do not want it because they do not understand and are ignorant about how it works. Believe me, No one outside the usa, envy your system, we find it horrible, primitive and outrageous !!
Military vet, ( thank you for your service, now matter what our political affiliation, we all owe you a debt of gratitude for keeping us safe and allowing us this discourse) BUT try spending YOUR way out of debt-- see if YOU can make it work......
I have not seen or heard of even one road/bridge project yet. Has anyone? Wait, I have been hearing about a road to the poor house. Is there a bridge needed? Probably to go across Sh*t Creek. Too old to run a shovel. I guess I'll just wait for my welfare check.
NO! You wake up - George W. Bush was a total dumb *** idiot! Are you nuts just like him?
A friend of mine worked with me in Florida. She is a Canadian citizen. Her father needed a heart transplant. The Canadian government decided that even if they approved the man to receive a new heart, he may only live an additional 5 years. So they didn't want to spend the money to save him. So they put him in a room to die. When my friend heard this, she rushed from Florida to Ontario to be with her dad. By the time she made it home, he had passed away. Maybe, just maybe, she would have loved to have 5 more years with her father. But a socialist run health care system denied her that. Is that what we want here? Pelosi deciding life or death for your loved ones? Wake up, because this is exactly what Obama wants to do. Clintons too. This government can't run a sh*thouse correctly, but you're willing to put your life and your loved ones lives in their hands? I'm not!
M. Fisher, you have a foul mouth. You are one of the reasons we have such an idiot in office.
He needs to start being the president of and for the USA and stop trying to be an actor that is on some tv show trying to play the role of one. He couldnt run a small town as a mayor.
Amen Frosty! America WAKE UP!!!!
Wake up everybody no more sleepin in bed
No more backward thinkin time for thinkin ahead
The world has changed so very much
From what it used to be so
there is so much hatred war an' poverty
Wake up all the teachers time to teach a new way
Maybe then they'll listen to whatcha have to say
Cause they're the ones who's coming up and the world is in their hands
when you teach the children teach em the very best you can.
Time for Change, and new day and a new way.....God Bless the USA
Just curious...can you tell me what change Obama has brought?
Honestly and prestige not only in the U.S. but abroad. We have a sense of ownership in the country again, and international doors are not being automatically slammed in our faces. No one respected the careless stupidity and secret agendas of the Bush era.
If you think Obama has brought us any respect or "prestige" abroad, you haven't been paying attention. World leaders have taken note that he is a naive and amicable clown who doesn't know what he's doing and can easily be taken advantage of.
As for "having a sense of ownership in the country again," would this apply to the people currently losing their homes because of the Democrats' subprime lending policies? Or maybe you're referring to how our tax bill is going to go up in order to pay for Obama's sham "stimulus" plans? Or maybe you mean the sense of ownership that comes from unemployment rates tripling? No, friend, under Bush, I wasn't worrying about higher taxes or losing my job. Under Obama, these are both realistic possibilities.
"Honestly and prestige ", now thats funny. he is doing everything he said he wasn't and thats ok huh? created an even larger rift between the two parties with his big mouth and kissed more a** than ... well like no other president has done before him and that impresses you. Now thats sad.
Obama has made the US look foolish and weak. He has acquiesed in every instance while "trying to improve our image"....yeah, he's improved it from a standpoint that our enemies do not fear us now. They know he has no backbone and will bow at their feet so everyone will play nice.
How can you say the US looks foolish and weak because of Obama. It was Bush who made decisions based on his own narrow view of the world and refused to listen to valid concerns and warnings from around the world.
Consider this- The US became the most powerful nation in the world in 200 short years. It allows us to be a benefactor and leader in the world. We didn't get here by being weak, but by applying our principles as were written in the constitution. If we choose to diminish those rights and "rules" we become weaker as a nation. Just like the survival of the fitest, someone else will rise up and we will be dominated. We do not need to become just another player. Becoming the little brother to the world is not an option. Backbone, Obama--- please!!
A solid start. Soon to be a 60 vote margin in the senate. Looking forward to health care and climate control programs in the fall. The republicans can be part of solving our problems or they can get run over by the train, because we are going to get this recovery going with or without them.
If this country recovers economically, it will be because of an economy, a free market economy, that somehow is resilient to and not run over by this administration. If our economy can survive these socialist policies, maybe we can survive. The economic stimulus package will not succeed because it is like giving a limp addict a new shot. It's effects, even if stimulative, will result in the same conditions when the cash infusion runs out.
With the new carbon tax and the end of all other tax breaks can't wait.
Oh please! Economists predicted the recession would end ALL BY ITSELF in the last half of 2009 before Obama even spent a dime. Now he's spent more than anyone else in history and it will end before even a tenth of his programs get started.
Dean, you are absolutely correct, you are veto proof now.
There won't be any question at all, no argument of any kind about where the responsibility lies for what's about to happen.
I want to point out one thing to you.
Within the recorded history of mankind, there has never been a government program, thet didn't take to long to get it started, cost too much when it got started and ran inefficently.
This will be no exception.
Rhetoric and charisma do not work, with people who, are responsible for making business decisions, and people who, invest money.
The econcomy will start to improve about 6 months after Obamws sets ground rules and then gets government out of the process.
The next problem you have is that the people you codemn so heartily, are getting weary of financing quasi socialist programs, many of them are joining you, they are working less hours, closing business, sitting down beside you, with their hands out, you have made it you convinced us.
Why should we put out the extra effort, when we csn have it with no extra effort.
Which economists are those? The FOX News economists?
While there is certainly no consensus on exactly how to deal with this mess, most real economists (Brooks for one) say that some government stimulus is required, and some, such as Krugman even say that the Obama stimulus is not big enough.
It's quite simple really. If people don't spend money. Busnesses die, more people go on unemployment, less spending, more businesses die and and the economy is in a death spiral. Fed spending is required to stop the spiral. Without it, we're a lawn dart.
Yeah. If left to its own devices the economy would eventually right itself, but not very soon, and not before millions would lose their jobs, and nowhere near the it's previous stature.
A very conservative friend of mine talked all tough just like some folks here. Then he lost his $250K a year job in January and is in danger of losing his home. You should hear him now, "...the Stim isn't working fast enough...""...the Stim isn't big enough...","...the bankers should all be sent to Gitmo...," and on and on.
I imagine if put in the same or similar situation, most of you guys would be singing a different tune than you do now.
Take a hard look at Canada, UK etc for healthcare. They are a mess. People with life threatening disease cannot be treated efficiently and they die.....that is why they flock to the US for treatment. Perhaps you would see it differently is after the universal healthcare goes through you get cancer and because of the beaurocratic mess are not treated efficiently - or perhaps the government will decide that the propsed treatment would cost to much and your bound to die anyway so they say.......hmmm, let's not OK treatment for him.....and you die. I don't want to be like the other countries. I want state of the art treatments available - once universal health happens doctors will flee the profession or become stagnet not pushing forward to improve the lives of the people they treat. It becomes a case of them collecting a paycheck. what a sad place to be
Don't bash the Canadian healthcare system. Natasha Richardson would have survived her injuries if she would have started driving immmediately. She was less than 2 hours from a major hospital. By not having emergency helicopter service and a duplication of services regionally, Canada is able to save millions on healthcare each year and offer it to everyone. America only offers high quality healthcare to those who can afford it. It's not fair to those who just 'want' to work at BK.
Keep in mind that Natasha Richardson also (unfortunately) foolishly declined to leave in the first ambulance that arrived because she thought she was okay. The resort should have insisted that she go. In that matter, the resort management was negligent. If she had, she would most likely still be alive today.
Never treat a closed head injury lightly. Her death should serve as an example to that end. Her death had alot more to do with that than with the Canadian health care system.
On another note, it is unfortunate that there are so many people with brain damage that are writing to this site. Anyone who has ever taken on a major "rescue" job knows that things can't be turned around in just 100 days. I guess you all think he can wiggle his nose like Samantha and change things instantly.
Keep in mind that Natasha Richardson also (unfortunately) foolishly declined to leave in the first ambulance that arrived because she thought she was okay. The resort should have insisted that she go. In that matter, the resort management was negligent. If she had, she would most likely still be alive today.
Never treat a closed head injury lightly. Her death should serve as an example to that end. Her death had alot more to do with that than with the Canadian health care system.
On another note, it is unfortunate that there are so many people with brain damage that are writing to this site. Anyone who has ever taken on a major "rescue" job knows that things can't be turned around in just 100 days. I guess you all think he can wiggle his nose like Samantha and change things instantly.
I apparently don't know enough crooks to fill a cabinet to be president.
Bill you forget the fundamentals that this country was built on. Everyone has the same opportunity to achieve in this country. I work with a doctor who was born and raised in the Bronx, he did not recieve a scholarship or a huge grant to go to med school. He was not sponsored by a rich family, his family did not have lots of money or live in an "advantaged" neighborhood. But he would not be held back. He fought hard, he worked hard, and he became a doctor. He could have chosen differently. He could have sold drugs like many of his friends. He could have settled for a fast food job, he could have not tried. But he did and he suceeded. Many people sit on their "assests", doing very little or nothing at all waiting for their hand outs their free medicine, food, money. In Clinton's recession, my husband lost his job and his healthcare, our first born was only 2 months old. He did not sit and feel sorry for himself or even blame it on the President, he went out and he worked over 5 different part time jobs, getting only 4 hours sleep a day...we did not go hungry, homeless or anything else. My husband worked hard and never gave up. He turned 5 part-time jobs into support for his family, he went back to school at the same time and turned all his hard work into 1 career, now today we have a beautiful house, and he makes an great wage. But he did it, like my friend on his own drive, he never quit, he took a lot of no's and turned them into yes's. So for those persons to whom it is not fair too...well life is not fair. But we all have the same opportunity in this great Republic of our to try. As for the Scoialized medicine, it is not all that and a bag of chips for the public as a whole. Huge number of persons with cancer, heart disease, transplants, special needs, or major surgeries never get help, the governments dont have the money to spend on these cases as it just takes too much out of the general fund. My daughter who was adopted out of Russia, a country with socialized medicine, had a special need which needed surgery to correct. By the time she was 4 she still had not recieved it, Russia would not spend the money for it, her need like many many others was not worth it. We brought her home and got her the surgery and now instead of langishing on the vine she is growing and putting on weight and thriving. This would have never happened under socialized medicine. I with my heart condition would have died under socialized medicine. My heart surgery cost my husband and I several thousand of dollars in co-pays, we had to refinance our house, but at least we had the option to do that and save my life. That is the beauty of this country we have choices. Opportunities, advantages...many take for granted and many in this country scoff at us for but yet they do not leave do they. Obama's course is taking American too close to socialism, he promised he would reduce the debt, he has increased it, he promised he would run in the middle, with a bi-partisim plan, but he has not he has gone to liberal extreams... I worry about the direction he is taking for all of us.
How come all these people crying about losing money and confidence weren't complaining a year ago. Democrats were already sounding the alarms a year ago, and the right wing boo'ed us. We were right then, we are right now. Obama rocks, his agenda is the majority american's agenda. Stop whining, we lived with your's for 8 years.
The Democrats are the ones who started this mess! Geez, Saturday Night Live even made fun of them for it. If SNL can figure it about the left, it must be pretty obvious... but apparently not. Go back to watching CNN and keep lying to yourself.
Democrat started this mess? this is just a waste of time. White trash rules USA.
Dean Smith, congratulations. You just summed up everything THINKING Americans believe. Mr. Obama is the spearhead of the solution. The radical right created by Bushcheney that's being kept alive by O'reilleylimbaugh and Company is the problem. Get moving or get out of the way!
When there are enough stupid people to elect a "community organizer" that never finished a job he ever started for President, don't expect anything better than what we got. The blame BUSH game is over! The White House MUTT Master is in trouble and no one told him he was no longer running for anything. The major accomplishment of his first 100 days is that he has successfully surrounded himself with even bigger idiots than he is. Unfortunately, the American people will PAY and PAY until we no longer can survive.
Sorry the blame bush game will never be over and everybody knows it. Including you. You can't wish the mess that bozo bush did to this country to be over. No amount of praying will remove it. American are the dumbiest people on the planet - and we just love to elect people who are just like us. Now, suffer Elder Dawg - SUFFER!
I think it's funny how much of my friends that voted for him are making the quickest turn. Most of them realize now what i tried to tell them all along. Obama was so busy making everyone focus on BUSH during his election, that the idiots forgot to study who HE was. What a smart guy. Used smoke and mirrors to distract the morons. I love that my friends can at least admit when they are wrong. They all just hated Bush so bad, they voted for Obama. Little did they know, he was the closest canidate to Bush.
obama is an ass...he has no idea waht he is doing..he is letting known terroists free get ready for another 9/11 if we stay down this road..bowing to the saudi prince, appolgizing to europe for america when if it wasnt for our troops shed blood europe would be germany righ now..give me a break..saying yes to abortion, spend trillions when some americans cat pay for their food bills where is that in american values
You must be one of those that believe everything should be handed to you. You are the problem and those like you.
When will everyone learn that we cannot control the climate. There is no global warming. The congress doesn't need to do anything. But they'll try because thay want to slowly take your freedoms away to control you. Turn health care over completely to the government? You are asking for trouble. Everything our government touches get's ruined. What is wrong with free market?
@Eboy54: YOU are the one who has been duped. Global Warming is very real. Yes, Earth has gone through cyclical climate changes over many centuries, but science has proven demonstrably that humans have contributed to the depletion of the ozone layer very significantly over the last 60 years. The effects of this are far too extensive to list here; suffice to say they are very grave. You need to turn off FOX NOISE and do some reading. You're deluded with paranoid ideas about the government wanting to "take your freedoms away to control you." That is lunacy. We need some government in our society. What is "wrong with the free market" should be very clear to you, if you have been paying attention. Markets free of any kind of regulation or oversight create rampant greed, misfeasance, and malfeasance. We tried the laissez faire approach and it just wrecked our economy along with the rest of the world's. There has to be a balance between the open markets and regulations that keep them in check. Otherwise, they go off the rails and the government has to step in anyway. It's unfortunate, but if the Bush Administration had not bailed out AIG, the consequences would have been even more devastating. This is not the fault of any one president or administration, but rather is symptomatic of "free market" capitalism. It just never works in the long term. It has happened many times before, and it is happening again, this time with much more destruction. The world is changing and we have to change along with it. Please do not foster ignorance and perpetuate the problem until you have done your homework and can accept these things.
you need to turn off MSNBC, the obama desciple network. As an al gore groupie, do take the same drugs as al's dog and mother-in-law?
The big news is that Arleyn Specter was about to get his butt kicked in the Republican primary so he jumped ship. No big deal. He voted Dem often enough anyway, right? Funny thing is that he almost lost the last Republican primary too, but he squeaked by, and then went on to regain his seat in the general election pretty easily.
So how is it possible that polls indicate that he doesn't have a prayer in the upcoming Rep primary, but favor him to win the general election? It's quite simple really. Over the past few years there has been a stampede of voters away from the Republican party toward the Democratic party. These voters were moderate Republicans and independants, the very voters that Republicans need to win anything. So why are they running? Who can say really, but the fact is they are running away.
Alright Right Wingers. Listen up. You are eating your own young. The people you admire and whose hateful words you hang onto are driving away sensible and intelligent people. People that might otherwise vote Republican are now embracing a more left of center preference. You have now insured that you will elect candidates in your primaries that have no relevance--that are too conservative for even mainstream Republicans to vote for, that will lose.
If you didn't like the results of this past election, don't blame Obama, or liberals, or independants, or even moderate Republicans. Blame only your ideologically myopic and xenophobic selves. The farther right you swing, the less chance you have of ever seeing your candidate win.
Keep it up please. At this rate you will insure that Al Franken will become the 45th president of the United States.
funny people use scientist to defend Global Warming. I can use just as many scientist to refute it. Your point?
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No you can't. There is a huge consensus by scientists, as well as the CIA, including members of the Bush administration, that climate change is real, and that we are contributing to it. Real scientists don't even debate it anymore.
Check out "Black Blizzard." It's a story about how a realitively few people wrecked millions of acres of farmland, and actually altered the regional climate in the process. It's about the dust bowl during the depression. Great swaths of that farmland are unuseable to this very day.
Obama tripled our debt in 100 days, Tripled! Tripled what took Mr. Bush 8 years to accomplish. It hasn't changed a thing, nor will it since the money he spent was given to his campaign supporters and not to making a difference. This whole recession was created by greed and the media. They were telling us we were in a recession long before we were. And greed... that's everyone, people who wanted homes they couldn't pay for; brokers who wanted commissions on loans, attorneys (aka Obama) who filed class action lawsuits against banks who wouldn't give loans to people who couldn't pay them back, Mr Clinton who signed the law that forced banks to give bad loans. The list could go on forever. Am I the only one who sees this?
And don't get me started on the hoax of global warming/cooling/change. This is merely an attempt to bankrupt the US and Britain's economy. No one is telling China to stop pumping coal fumes into the atmosphere, except the Olympic athletes. How can we be so arrogant as to think we know what the planet's atmosphere should be let alone think that we can fix it? We need to be good stewards of this planet, yes, but let's use our heads, shall we?
Thanks for letting me vent. Any Bible people out there? Read Mark 13. Peace.
I agree on Mark 13. This is a warning sign of the end times. Obama is making it happen and judging from what I have seen so far it seems to me like Obama is the antichrist. Just look at what he has done and what he stands for. He stands for death, just look at what his positions are (such as abortions, stem cell research, etc.), not to include that he basically threw out the Bible and made fun of it during his campaign. Yet, this man claims to be a "Christian."
I think the Bible is very clear on the subject matter. Let's look what the Bible has to say, "For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds." (2 Corinthians 11:13-15). "[A]nd every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world." (1 John 4:3).
I think the Bible is clear. The antichrist is already roaming the earth and he can disguise himself as an angel of the light. Hmmm...sounds familiar? Aren't they saying that Obama is like our savior and that he's going help bring this country back on it's feet and do all these wonderful things. Yet, but their fruits we shall know them. Hmmm...he's a pro-abortionist, he's pro-partial birth abortions, pro-infanticide, pro-stem cell research, pro-capital punishment, pro-same sex marriage, pro-human cloning, and pro-legalizing illegal drug (yet, he's been flip-flopping on that one). He's a bad tree and will lead this nation to a godless nation that was once a God-driven nation. Once he takes God out of the picture you can bet your bottom last dollar that God will punish us as a nation whole and we will go down in the dumps.
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Unless the criteria are now those of celebrity, we cannot speak of success yet. What we can say is that he has broken several promises.