Sonia Sotomayor's Supreme Court nomination has opened a new affirmative action battle, with each side invoking the election of the first black president in support of its cause.
Sotomayor's focus on race issues may be hurdle
Seeded on Sat May 30, 2009 4:50 AM EDT (msnbc.com)


And a hurdle it should be, with obama calling it nonsense? Or maybe he should "restate" oops I f**ked up again. Probably checked with the IRS to make sure she is paid up, did he not notice her very big/loud/racist mouth???? Funny thing is, in this country, now days, the racists are the ones screaming racism. Ever notice?
Ignorance is bliss, vote democrat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh come on now, we are the racists for not seeing it their way...shame on you, you should know better.
You are clearly the most racist person I have seen writing on this site. Odumbo is what you call the President of the United States. The only person with a problem is you, but you probably only have a quarter of the intelligence of the President and those around him. I guess we have to excuse you. Let's apply "dumbo" to you for ridiculous remarks that lack basis of fact.
If I had had as many chances and opportunities guaranteed for my success or that of my son, I certainly wouldn't be bitching. White peoole have onlywhat they can do for themselves, no one guarantees them anything except that their limited paycheck will be half stolen to support the perpetual whiners who are the government's children.
What ese is there a return to 8 years of devastating Republicanism? First place your assumption that this judge is an incorrect choice which is wrong. I just showed you that in my above statement.
Velma........ever heard of the Aryan Nation or Posse Comitatus? A few of these "men" are life time members.........talking to one of them is like talking to a brick wall.
Moderate, fair minded people.........kicked their philosophy out of office and they are now down to 20% of people who will admit to being Republican. They are extremists who can only spew their ideology of hate and insults. Look at their assumed leader ......a fat bellied, drug addled, cigar smoking, postulating talk show fool. Gotta love the way GOD has humbled them.
Have faith Velma!!
No Velma Adams, YOUR odumbo president is the most racist person in the world.... he is the one that sat in church with his pastor for 20 years.....spewing hatred against whites..... maybe you aren't white...... so you don't care... I am WHITE so I do care.... I do not judge people by their skin color unless I am turned upon and this moron in the oval office has ignited so many things in this country, it isn't funny! He is the one responsible for all this spewing of racial comments, etc..... he is the one..... He is disgusting beyond belief and if you can tell me that he sat in the racist church for 20 years and DID NOT believe those things, then YOU, VELMA are a total MORON........ he is EVIL...... not just for being the divider he is but also his lack of character, lack of principles, lack of any intelligence whatsoever.... his education was BOUGHT for him, Velma....he is NOT intelligent...... have you seen his transcrips from columbia????? Of course you haven't....... he didn't even have the grades to get into harvard, if his admission wasn't bought for him by the likes of george soros..... do you know what transcripts are, Velma? I don't think so..... go have another glass of kool-aid on me....
toni-445883
Whats scarey is that I know you really believe what you are saying
What is really amusing here is how these "affirmative action" loser types keep making Law Review at places like Harvard and Yale.
(For the uninformed, and that include you Toni-445883, Law Review usually means you are in the top 5% of your class based on MERIT and HARD WORK after 2-3 years, not because someone talked or bought your way in like 43.)
Yes it is those who shout RACIST the loudest that turn out to be racist..
Velma, Marcia, Nightwish, Logdump, Jay-1131436, jbdaad, letsdance. Mary Robertson et al;
Individual who are less intellect are always against a highly intellectual person except for their own kids and members of the family. A black president who had graduated “Magna Cum Laude” and a nominee who had garnered “Suma Cum Laude” at their respective academic excellence are one of that is not recognizable with these type of individuals. Karl Rove is an excellent example by calling a law graduate in Princeton University topping second in the class as a “Stupid”. I don’t have any idea in what place did he graduated? Maybe just like his last presidential candidate who had graduated as the top five from the bottom of the class!
Since intelligence and excellence are recorded officially, it is very difficult to combat with at the part of these less intelligent, then they will find an unintelligent topics to bring about; expecting some readers and listeners who are going to pick up such issues. Judge Sotomayor is an outstanding example of how intelligent she is by just simply ignoring all of these nuisances. When you are at this height of achievement in your life, you will never bring down your level at the level of these individuals.
Are you not elated when one of the members of your family come home and presented to you these types of achievement? Setting aside the bright future and the excellence they had achieved. I don’t think so!
What's funny is. When the position came available, I told my wife that not only would he pick a Hispanic but it also would be a woman. Talk about government transparency.
Sorry Velma and Marcia, but the people are right.
Liberals and Democrats are, and have always been, the most racist political group. It's the only party that not only tells minorities you can only do better if the government helps you (therefore implying minorities cannot achieve success without a handout), but also that in order to "level the playing field" we'll take into account your race, all the while decrying the use of race as a consideration in anything. It's hypocrisy in it's purest form. Have a nice day.
Velma, are you seriously over here crying about someone calling Obama "Odumbo" and attributing that to being racist? REALLY? what about all the horrible aweful names that were thrown upon Bush. I suppose thats not racism. You need to get out of your own head and take a look at yourself. What you see is going to be VERY suprising.
No Joe, that is not the worst. The worst is the closet racist, who "appears" to be non racial on the outside, but is a racist on the inside. They are the ones you can't trust as you will never know when they will stab you in the back. (Or do it to your face)
Colonel, your so incredibly right. Why cant democrats see this? The democratic party is the most racist entity ever! they race bait all the time to get their constituants angry and pointing fingers and playing victims. That's because the democrats need their constituants to depend on government for their sick agendas to work. It's all very discusting. This is why getting an education is so important. Who do these people think created the kkk? The confederate flag??? hello it was the democrats!
Yes,
that is why Posse Commutatus and La Raza should be banned!
When a republican appoints a minority (woman etc. ) they are pilloried with sexual harrassment investigations, oreos, Uncle Tom's etc.
There has been a 60 Minutes or 20/20 program 15-10 years ago that had a story of white students going to Black colleges. They had a similar experiences that Michelle and Ms Sotomeyer had. I doubt it is the fault of the school-Princeton.
I have liberal college professor democrat friends who are openly frustrated with the quality of education many students have -particularly those who graduate from poorer school districts.
Ms. Sotomeyer could have used a Junior college first to hone up neccessary skills and earn credits (and SAVE MONEY) instead of coming to Princeton with a chip on her shoulder.
I have seen this happen alot-people who feel different from the group also project onto the group their own negative feelings...this does not make the individual or the group in question automatically racist.
It is an issue of culture shock....along with shyness, etc. but if not properly managed it can lead to racism. I grew up overseas with a majority of citizens of a different race than mine, and racism comes in all colors, but alot of it (and I changed schools alot) is due to being 'new on campus' and feeling that you are 'sticking out'-the individual person may need to be encouraged or invited to participate-
There is such a thing as social anxiety-
Ms. Sotomeyer being new most likely kept herself to herself and wore a self-protective shield which inadvertantly made it more difficult to make friends than normal-
Would it be more helpful if we were to really have a political study on why people join groups like Commitatus, La Raza etc.? There could be an economical point to it...
eg. Most southern whites are considered racist when the majority were not the large landowners with the cotton pickers but hard scrabble farmers trying to eke out a living like the rest...
Living in a slave cabin was not that much different than living in a cabin in the midwest or in a sod house in South Dakota--if you were on your own-most likely your were in debt, if tenant farming is not much better than being a bonded farmer...except that slaves got free room and board.
If you were poor of whatever color, you were/ are lest fortunate position than the wealthy person (like today) so it is a matter of how wealthy treat the poor rather than what color you are...
I wish we had a serious government study or an attempt to learn why people join groups such as Posse Comitatus, La Raza or AMERican Indian movement...all of them rely on their members having grieivances.
Thanks aja.
Hey, you can't argue with facts. Straight or historical ones.
united we stand,divided we're getting our azzes kicked,unite in the third party,you know ,the Constitutional one. this is one American who is convinced there are no good repub's or demon-crat's,proof is in the last few presidents. people we've gotta stop buying into this kind of stuff and get with it,this "lady" is another good example of bad decision's made by our "so-called-American leader".
Velma ........................ lighten up and get a life. If people who opposed him could call Bush all kind of names then people who oppose Obama can call him what they wish.
Our country is changing; many different cultures are now mixing both races and cultures. I thought we were supposed to be the UNITED STATES instead of the DIVIDED STATES? In addition, our past history of only "pure" Anglo-Saxons have rights versus multiracial and multicultural individuals is changing. Witness, Rosa Parks and what happened to her on the bus in Selma, Alabama; that clearly needed to be changed. And Strom Thurmond who denied his half-black daughter existed. I do believe our country is changing, but the reactionaries are mad about it; I believe they will be forced to deal with life's reality regardless of their tantrums.
You guys crack me up !!! mr. o is not the first BLACK president he has as much white in him as Bill Clinton.............he is a half breed at best................"SO HE DID NOT MAKE HISTORY, YET..."
And Affirmative Action is now reverse discrimination and should be abolished !!!!!!!!!
I cannot wait until we elect our first African American President.... I am sure he will be a Conservative...
Toni-Yes, Barry is NOT our first African American President, he so proudly campaigned about being half white, his mother from Kansas, and raised by his white grandparents.
All here who say those that criticize BHO because he's black are all wet. The racists don't bother with this nonsense forum. People criticize BHO because he's quirky and incompetent and not even attempting to address the nation's ills. He is busy pandering to his followers and setting up for the next election.
The Dead Head:
You go!!! 100% agreement here. How do you stop reverse discrimination when so many minorities keep pushing and pushing it down our throats?
The people critisize Obama because he's an awful and power hungry president who has surrounded himself with some of the most power hungry politicians (Frank, Pelosi, et. al.) ever.
Who here wanted to be a 70% stockholder in GM? Raise your hands.
Clarence Thomas was the first Supreme Court nominee who was victimized by racism.
It would be interesting to see how these two people interact together on the job.
If Sarah Palin were not a white woman or a republican; she would have gotten better treatment.
The first racial attacks upon Obama CAME AFTER he was elected through the caucuses of the 97+% HONKY state of IOWA, came from African -AMericans who questioned his right to call himself a Black American, or African American because he did not experence slavery in his family the way they did--he was too Kenyan for many Black people who most likely suspected that he was an Uncle Tom because that HONKY STATE of IOwa got him through the caucuses.
It looks like white people have worked harder to combat racism than others have; and get less credit than they deserve.
And Dick Cheney is Barry's cousin.
So help me get this straight, is President Obama black, white or neither? I've noticed appointments and nominees have been of all race, color and creed. Is that not what the purported UNITED STATES wants? I wonder if those who do not want a UNITED STATES should go back to Europe?
No, what I want are nominations based on QUALIFICATIONS, not color or genitalia.
Nope, we've have all the racial bias and intimidation we need. Obama needs to get his staff to pay their Federal Income taxes. Send her to Chicago, live in Ayers neighborhood and go to Wright's church, be a "community organizer" there.
This Nation is fed up with Obama's imposition of racial intimidation and we need no more. We need a Supreme Court replacement whose loyality is to our Constitution and existing Laws, not the influence of racial preference.
Get your act together Obama.
In the 2001 interview, Obama said:
If you look at the victories and failures of the civil rights movement and its litigation strategy in the court, I think where it succeeded was to invest formal rights in previously dispossessed people, so that now I would have the right to vote. I would now be able to sit at the lunch counter and order and as long as I could pay for it I’d be Ok.
But, the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and of more basic issues such as political and economic justice in society. To that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn't that radical. It didn't break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution, at least as it's been interpreted, and the Warren Court interpreted in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. Says what the states can't do to you. Says what the federal government can't do to you, but doesn't say what the federal government or state government must do on your behalf..
Obama's view of empathy is just asking for a judge who is lawless. From that perspective, Obama wants a judge who will ignore the law: He wants a judge who might look at the precedents and text, weigh the merits as 70/30, and then vote for the weaker "30" side only because that furthers his political agenda. Emphasizing the need for "empathy" is an invitation to replace law with politics.
Empathy will empty your pocketbook faster that any 50% tax rate. Working class taxpayers are already maxed out in the paycheck area paying for O@!$%#head's freeloader constituency. When you can't afford to feed YOUR kids or PAY YOUR bills because you've had half of your paycheck stolen to keep the farm animals who breed like pigs at the tax payers expense-------it's time to draw the line !
B-I-N-G-O!!!!
It isn't funny that the best explanation she could come up with is that she made a poor choice in words, She doesn't apologize for thinking like a racist, only talking like one!!!!
-70% of Americans say you are dead wrong and just another right wing whiner who cannot get over the resounding defeat and are grasping at straws. Go live in your littl fantasy worlld. People are tired of right wing smear campaigns and if they continue look for another whooping in 2010.
Robinhood tactics-- Great post.
In the Barry Obama Nation, Machiavelli that the end justifies the means.
logdump
Your sponsers will fire you unless you run your writings through spell and style. These are unix tools. They'll improve your text so that it approaches text written by an eighth grader.
I see logdump hasn't come to terms with his own party's racism yet. The Democratic party is the most racist in history. Look up some of your party's own historical facts. Don't worry, the truth will only hurt for a little while.
Stackedhippiechick, you may need to go back and relearn a couple of those civic lessons. The Constitution is a federal document only. Our founding fathers were very intent on limiting the authority of the centralized government, and thereby gave great powers to the states, for example, taxing authority. The only legal authority to tax its citizens is the state. All of the states abdicated that authority during the World Wars but if push came to shove and the wording of the Constitution upheld at the Court, the feds wouldn't be able to tax, if the state governments withdrew their permission. What is interesting is that nearly all the states have illegally taxed their citizens since turning over that authority to the feds by creating a second taxing authority.
I continue to be disappointed in all of Obama's judgments with respect to personnel. All are seriously flawed for the positions they hold. Is there anyone out there that truely believes that Taxing Timmy is the only one that could possibly run the treasury, so far I've not seen any stroke of economic genius that would support that decision. Then there is his running mate, never seen a more comic selection. It would be something that Broadway would make fun of for years, except he is only a heartbeat away from being President. His appointment of Hillary was purely political, a way of getting her out of the day to day. What was it in her background that made him think she was the best Secretary of State in the country? I've not seen anything that makes her stand out. There are the likes of Tom Daschle and the other high exposure failures that would take too much time and space to discuss here. That brings us to Sotomayor. With that track record, all should be concerned, yet he portrays her as an empathic judge, which is precisely what the Supreme Court does not need. If you place her qualifications in an unmarked envelope along with half a dozen others and make a selection based on best qualified would she even be considered?
With that said, I'd guess she is basically a good person, but not qualified for the position of Justice. She should be careful here as well, wondering what quid quo pro Obama will seek if she is confirmed. Will he tote her out during the elections to remind the Spanish speaking people that he did appoint her and that they should vote for him. The Chicago politician does nothing for free and there is always a price to be paid. She must make the decision if that price is worth her self respect in the long run.
It's strange how only white people are not allowed to make racial comments.
I read a book awhile back that consisted of interviews with various uppity middle-class Mexicans -- oh wait, I mean "Latinos." They felt the need to inform us that we should be grateful to them for immigrating to the US because their presence would improve our morals. They also pointed out that in reality, they own America in any case.
So I guess it should surprise no one that Obama, in his famously inclusive administration, considers it nothing more than "nonsense" if anyone is offended by racial and gender insults toward white males.
After all, America belongs to people of color these days, and the lowest of the low is the white male.
We had a war--they lost---get over it Latinos !
Wow, that's a crazy book fieldtheory, I like the part you mentioned that "their presence would improve our morals" ...yeah, which is why Mexico is such a 'success story' to the point where they all have to move out of there!!! I don't know how my morals can improve from people who don't know what birth control is...or is that the 'moral' I'm missing? To have 10 children I can't support, and each has a different father or mother? Oooops, was that 'racist?' ...Just being realistic.
Lucy........are you the recording secretary or treasurer for the Aryan Nation?
If Mexicans find such woeful condition back home, and if back home is worth a peso, then why, instead of bagging it to here and a menial career(?) in some car wash, don't the macho Mexicans seize their country back from their oppressors by force of arms if need be and turn it into a place of opportunity?
fieldtheory: Ah the poor white male has had it so tough throughout our short history as a country. I'll break out my violin for you.
Lucy: wow how to you comment to that. well done my friend
reason: White people do not have 10 children? White people do not use birth control (Bristol Palin anyone)? White people do not carry out welfare fraud? no your comment was not racist at all. Just being realistic
Tom: They tried that when we stole their land in Texas and California and then made them sell New Mexico and most of the west for a cheap price. Back then we were the oppressors.
Oh and about Mexico having morals lets not forget that they did away with slavery before we did (part of the reason we fought for Texas "independence"). nah no racism going on here. What did the KKK meeting get cancelled tonight? It seems you guys are coming out in droves tonight on this thread.
Wow, freedom79 - you sure are racist against white males. Scary.
Actually, she made her stance on the killing of babies very clear and plain. Sotomayor has come out and said, "...That a woman's right to have an abortion is paramount..."
As long as people are attacking the "content of her character, performance and judgements" then there is no way they can be considered racist. But the proponents for Sotomayor will call the opponents racist because it fits there MO and creates a battle in the public eye that can't be won by the opponents according to a poll that changes the words to the questions, but not the meanings....
"...When asked a question about “affirmative action or preferential treatment for minorities,” the public has consistently opposed the idea by a margin of two to one. But when asked about “affirmative action programs designed to help women and minorities,” an even bigger majority has supported them."
It's the same damn question!!!!!! The words have been changed, but because we have become a DUMBED DOWN society, we don't know that it is the same question.
She needs to crawl back under the prejudiced rock she crawled out from under and stay there. My creamy-white-ass would be in so much trouble if I had said what she said.
I have to say no to this choice. From listening to the news, she raises some doubt , and I am hoping people will go with their instincts on this one.
I get tired of hearing about her rags to riches life history, and her schooling, and what shes been through.. blah blah.. I dont care about any of that. What people should be looking at is what she stands for, is she going to be a judge ? or is she feeling that her position , if she gets it, will have the right to make laws instead of interpretation.
What I dont understand, is there are so many more extremely qualified people for the position then her.. Why oh why does this country have the need to feel to make some kind of stupid history just because of ethnic background. I guess people are still goo goo over obama, and havent realized the mistake of being caught up in making history, instead of electing a good president. The sad thing about it is, people who did get caught up in the whirlwind of making history, wont even see the errors they made. In their eyes, he is still Mr perfect, and always will be. I really would like to see some polls of people saying, oh my what have I done.
Im hoping people dont get all caught up in this stupid minority thing again.. Look guys, if your not qualified, or if you have ugly baggage your carrying like Sotomayor, then you should be overlooked. Pick the best qualified for the job, stop this stupid political B.S.
The ugly baggage you refer to does not exist. It is just another smear campaign from the likes of Rove and limbaugh etc. People who take the time to investigate and learn find her position almost exactly the same as Alito one of Bush's appointees.
This is his response to the same Texas senator who is spreading the garbage on theis appointee. The Senator must have forgot this.
ALITO: Senator, I tried to in my opening statement, I tried to provide a little picture of who I am as a human being and how my background and my experiences have shaped me and brought me to this point.
…when a case comes before me involving, let’s say, someone who is an immigrant — and we get an awful lot of immigration cases and naturalization cases — I can’t help but think of my own ancestors, because it wasn’t that long ago when they were in that position.
But when I look at those cases, I have to say to myself, and I do say to myself, “You know, this could be your grandfather, this could be your grandmother. They were not citizens at one time, and they were people who came to this country.”
…When I get a case about discrimination, I have to think about people in my own family who suffered discrimination because of their ethnic background or because of religion or because of gender. And I do take that into account.
Hi Damon,
You said "What I dont understand, is there are so many more extremely qualified people for the position then her"
Who would you have picked?
Ah, the 43 mentality, go for GUT - rational inquiry not necessary; after all, why confuse me with facts, my mind is already made up.
That is what confirmation hearings are for (hopefully) - getting to the bottom of this.
Very simple and very clear!
During the Bush’s administration when Sotomayor were appointed this is not happening, right? Now, its Obama’s administration what happened?
Conclusion; when it is their time Sotomayor is OK but when it is not, this is what she became! Obvious….
The problem is, she is the most qualified amongst them. She had in her person what the present Supreme Court judge doesn’t. It is a fact that that no one can ignore or bend. You can twist it whenever you like at the end of the day you will end up another loser again.
Please, bring out intelligent issues you people! Focus your attention how to beat Obama in the future. Just like how the democrats did their best to win at last election. It takes them eight years of planning and execution. You are wasting every second that had past. Do you allow Obama to be re-elected? Well, if you continue these you know already what will happen. You will never stop whining like any other looser did. Accept it and use it to regain your footing after the next four years.
Rumor mongering is not the best tool of winning, you all knew that! It is the media that profited on these; ratings, ratings and ratings means revenues. Unless otherwise, if you are paid to do these nuisances then continue whatever the outcome of the Republican Party in the future. This is the only reason that I can imagine why all of these talks are happening out here!
Even me if someone will give me a comfortable living doing these things I might join you. But it must be worthy enough to sway my practical and logical thinking.
That was an Appeals Court Bush appointed her to (interestingly enough, most of her decsions have been overturned). There is quite a difference between that and appointing her for life to the most powerful law-interpreting court in the nation.
In one of the few cases dealing with the subject that she helped decide on the federal appeals court, Ricci v. New Haven, she ruled in favor of the city’s ’s decision to discard the results of an exam to select firefighters for promotion because too few minority firefighters scored high enough to advance. White firefighters who had scored well on the discarded test sued, and the Supreme Court heard arguments on the case in April.
Yea it really sounds like she can make great decision. Also if a white man would have said that a white man can make a better decision that a latino women, he would be fired and hung out to dry by the media. Instead this women get a promotion. Don't you just love america?
You and others of your ilk are parseing the statement and twisting it to suit your needs. Any intellegent person who read the statement would not draw such an idiotic conclusion from it unless maybe they had an alternative reason.
logdump:
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Logdump .. she is the one that brought "race" into the equation not us..
It's only a hurdle for the Republican'ts. They are so desperate, they've dragged the RNC (Rush,Newt,Cheney) out to do their speaking. Yeah, like that will help them reconnect with the people who left the party. They left because of jerks like the RNC.
Tru-628327;
"It's only a hurdle for the Republican'ts. They are so desperate, they've dragged the RNC (Rush,Newt,Cheney) out to do their speaking. Yeah, like that will help them reconnect with the people who left the party. They left because of jerks like the RNC."
Intelligent! Nice combination and definition exactly of what it is he-he-he.
Last November election is the proof! Hello! If they will not order this RNC's to cease and desist, then we all knew already what will happen in the next presidential election. I don know if they can afford that?
RNC's are not helping the Republicans, they are tearing them apart. Instead they are building up the foundation of the Democrats. They needed to review their offenses and defenses. Obama is using his experienced in basketball games of how to win every game as much as possible. In every attack that they implement do they get the attention of the majority? Whatever these individuals spread out using the media, they should think very well who is benefiting it.
It is not the voters it is the media alone right, centrist and left wingers alike. They needed any aspects of their opinions it will bring in revenues through ratings. Just like the bouncing RL who had 20 millions followers. For just a dollar contribution from this 20 million every month, how much he is getting? So he doesn't care if it is a twisted issues or not. The more it sells the better for his radio show.
Wake up! Obama is benefitting all of these. He is just listening might be also reading but never put his feet below this level. He is in advantage position in the process people love him like a rock star!
thechef. That's the point. People love him like a rock star. Thay don't care about any of the nutty, radical policies he implements. It's become nothing more than a cult of personality without regard to what he's doing to the country.
70% Government stockholder share in GM? Stimulus and Omnibus bill costing nearly twice as much as was spent on Iraq in six years? Ability to seize any financial institution regardless of whether they took bailout money or not? Ability to impose paycaps on private business whether they took bailout money or not? Threats to Chryslers credit holders that they better take .29 cents on the dollar or he'll unleash the WhiteHouse press corp on them? Outrage at AIG bonuses when he approved the bonuses with his own legislation? 1.4 billion dollar missle defense cut the day after North Korea test-fires it's long range ballistic missles? Declaring that no lobbyists would work in his administration, yet appointing 30 to high level positions? Declaring "no earmarks" during his campaign, yet signing a stimulus bill containing almost 9,000 of them?
I've got lots more. Would you like me to go on?
Tru. I guess that's why liberals can only do the "Rush-Cheney" dance. When you've got no real factual defense for your position, just grab at anything you can out of desperation.
Last i checked 54 Million people Voted against Obama.. thats a significant number. and by your standards all racists..
The Colonel-964761
Tru. I guess that's why liberals can only do the "Rush-Cheney" dance. When you've got no real factual defense for your position, just grab at anything you can out of desperation.
This is your government speaking. We're listening to you and do not have to have a court order because we have our fingers in everybody's pie. We may have your name on a list because you recently returned from the war or are against abortion or taxes or speak too frequently and too publicly about the Constitution or you hold certain religious beliefs or advocate the Second Amendment. We may arrest you as well at any time, even if there is no reasonable suspicion to do so because we are no longer required to have reasonable suspicion like in the old days under The Constitution.
After your arrest we may hold you forever. You can talk to an attorney but not your family or the media. Rules of evidence? Forget it. You think your detention is unlawful and you want to petition a court for release? Forget it. Trial by a jury of your peers? Forget it. Until recently, we might have thought you had information of value and could put a rag over your mouth and nose, soaked it with water until you gagged or coughed up the information we thought you had.
How do we have this authority you ask? Your former President authorized it in a series of Executive Orders. His Number Two pushed vociferously for it and the head of The House of Representatives helped enact it in the Patriot Act. And you thought it only applied to foreigners who want to destroy you? Forget it. So far, your new President hasn't rescinded it. Got a complaint; talk to the folks who determined that YOU are outside the Constitution where these matters are concerned. We're only following orders. Besides, who cares about a few rights when your safety may be at stake.
Sorry Brad. I don't get your point. If your crazy ramblings were accurate at all, at best it means Obama is at least as bad as what you accuse Bush of being. You must have felt pretty strong about it to write out this pointless diatribe and then e-mail it to me through newsvine. I come here to make a few comments about some things I feel strongly about and get on with my day and don't need liberal kooks invading my home (although I know they hate the fact that Republicans have the same rights as them) so please don't e-mail me. I know liberals don't like the fact that people that don't share their point of view can express their opinions and would like to silence them (kind of like little Nazi's), but unless Obama takes it away, we still have freedom of speech. I'm not here to make friends or enemies, and don't need to wake up to what could be construed almost as a veiled threat of liberal intimidation (something that seems to be more and more common these days) in my e-mail inbox. I get enough intimidation from your hero on a daily basis. Again, please don't send e-mails to me. It makes you look like a lunatic.
By the way. Here's another example of your great leader's fairness:
From Mark Tapscott of the Washington Examiner:
"Evidence appears to be mounting that the Obama administration has systematically targeted for closing Chrysler dealers who contributed to Repubicans. What started earlier this week as mainly a rumbling on the Right side of the Blogosphere has gathered some steam today with revelations that among the dealers being shut down are a GOP congressman and closing of competitors to a dealership chain partly owned by former Clinton White House chief of staff Mack McLarty."
"The basic issue raised here is this: How do we account for the fact millions of dollars were contributed to GOP candidates by Chrysler who are being closed by the government, but only one has been found so far that is being closed that contributed to the Obama campaign in 2008?"
No matter how this turns out, liberals will give Obama another free ride. Goodbye America. Hello Obamaland.
 I'm white and don't believe in affirmative action based on race at all. Just the same I voted for Obama and am comfortable with Sotomayer even if she did not have the best choice of words. My reason is that affirmative action when it comes to education trumps everything else since it is vital to America's economic future.Â
 Conservatives are great for guns and ammo and beat-downs of bad guys. I can't say that they are wrong in many cases. I'm glad that Bush spent lots of money on a missile defense since North Korea and Iran are bad actors. Afghanistan can't be allowed to host terrorists.
   The problem with Conservatives is they mostly are not nationalists when it comes to America's economic future as a whole. Why are they so happy to help banks and colleges extort huge sums of money out of young people for an education? I completed college on my own in the 1970's without help from anyone and only owed $750. How is America going to remain competitive against China when young people look at paying for an education as volunteering for economic enslavement for a decade or more? Granted, many young people should pick a "working man's" college as I did - but how many of such colleges remain?Â
 Yadda,yadda, yadda - Conservatives are conservative because they like to accept the status quo which is good for themselves but is often not good for America's future.
  Conservatives are more than willing to sell out America when it comes to energy dependence. I'm not against nuclear power, nor drilling in Alaska unlike most of my fellow Democrats. Yet Conservatives are more than happy to cancel BASIC energy research programs when oil prices are low and fund them just enough for political cover when times get tough.  I know, I worked for an energy research company that made enormous strides with fuel cells and battery technology but was gutted when Ronald Reagan was elected. When Conservatives are willing to make a REAL and lasting commitment to basic energy research I'll stop calling them a bunch of Saudi stooges and be more understanding of their "drill, baby drill" mantra.Â
  I suppose I'm a Nationalist. Since I believe that taxes should be set so the bottom 80% of taxpayers should earn 20% of the income in America I'm a Socialist too. (It's more like the bottom 80% makes 11% of the income). That makes me a National Socialist who voted for Obama. Whatever you label me, at least I care about America's economic survival against the likes of China - which is more than I can say of most Conservative yahoos.
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NATIONAL SOCIALIST! so your a NAZI! -----> that's not even ment to be funny either... that is what they called them selves in 1928 when they came to power. I'm not following any leader that does what obama is doing with our freedoms. and Bush/Chaney should be in jail for TREASON sharing a cell w/ Barry Satora for letting the TARP bailout go threw with 99% of the people saying HELL NO don't do it.
We owe china so much money we'll never pay up and if China decides to switch reserve currency to the Euro our dollar will be (more) worthless then TP over night.
anyone who would give up freedom for security ~deserves neither.
you have a college education, your a liberial - then you must be smart enough to see this is the intentional destruction of the dollar, you can blame bush- but better yet blame them all- and when your done blaming them understand that the banksters really run the country.... I'll prove my point- Tim Gaithers- how does a man not pay taxes for 4 years and be appointed to the head the US Treasury? question: if he wasn't a CFR member like all of obama's cabinet members, and all of bushs members, and clinton's members would you have ever even noticed the CFR really runs things controlling things from behind the scenes?
obama's cabinet is pushing a zcar to lock down the internet... to stop what I'm doing right now, tell you about the banksters. Jay Rockefeller has said that the internet should have never been given to the people. DO YOU AGREE? these guys are going to black out the internet so people can't tell anyone the truth.
conservatives / liberals - who cares I just want people to know the banksters are controlling things, the elections are a sham to make you think you have some kind of choice, or have say in what they are going to do to you. and believe me they are not going to fix the system becuase they want people just smart enough to work low payings crap jobs, and not smart enough to understand they are screwing you with taxes paid to the privately OWNED federal reserve. they own this bank! they own the media you probably watch CNN/MSNBC/FOX - they own the schools! people that print the money have deep pockets, but they can't stop the idea that FREEDOM is for everyone! You might not agree with me at all on anything I've said, but prove me wrong! I DARE YOU.
Do you realize that Obama is borrowing millions from China to keep the American economy afloat and that he now has our children's children so far in dept to them that they will end up paying the Chinese back for many, many years to come.
"...the bottom 80% makes 11% of the income..." That is probably true, but part of the reason is that there is a large percentage that earn no income. It is also true that the top 11% pay 80% of the taxes, yet there seems to be this thinking that the rich do not pay enough. I don't think that you are a Socialist though, Dan, because of your use of one word, "earn". You believe that the bottom 80% should earn 20% of the income; a Socialist believes that wealth should be evenly distributed regardless of who earned it.
Truth of the matter is Affirmative action is as dead as yesterdays newspapers. Hardly ever used anymore because we have moved to almost where we should be in minority acceptance.
Now we are looking at who in the near future will be the minority in America. OMG its going to be white males. So essentially the Republicans have white males fightin Affirmative action that in the very near future may benefit them......Talk about sheep.
but whites dont score lower on tests and whites dont need help when it comes to wanting a job and pursuing that job to the best of their abilities.
and whites dont cry racism if they dont get a job,they just try harder and look for another job.
so you see whites dont need aff. act. only the races that are slower and less evolved need it
thats why asians ands whites dont need aff.a ct. we are better than that.
Show me someone that doesn't vote out of self-interest
fitzy111;
“(obama's) Obama’s cabinet is pushing a (zcar-misspelled) czar to lock down the internet... to stop what I'm doing right now, tell you about the banksters (new term not found in dictionary). Jay Rockefeller has said that the internet should have never been given to the people. DO YOU AGREE? (these) These guys are going to black out the internet so people can't tell anyone the truth.”
Hello! Do you understand the new threat? “Mass Disruption” not “Mass Destruction” any more, do you realize how serious it is? No one wanted to take out the Internet to the people and no one can stop you also. Obama had won the election utilizing this technology; he knew how important it is to everyone at this country or not all over the universe. He is not talking about Internet black out, it is only your own definition or twisting the fact that you really understand very well. He is talking and concerned about Internet Security!
conservatives / liberals - who cares I just want people to know the banksters are controlling things, the elections are a sham to make you think you have some kind of choice, or have say in what they are going to do to you. and believe me they are not going to fix the system (because-misspelled) because they want people just smart enough to work low (payings-misspelled) paying crap jobs, and not smart enough to understand they are screwing you with taxes paid to the privately OWNED federal reserve. they own this bank! they own the media you probably watch CNN/MSNBC/FOX - they own the schools! people that print the money have deep pockets, but they can't stop the idea that FREEDOM is for everyone! You might not agree with me at all on anything I've said, but prove me wrong! I DARE YOU.
You are very wrong with all of the aspects here.
Firstly, you don’t ever dare to check with your grammatical errors, spellings and punctuations.
Secondly, you are twisting the facts! “Elections are a sham” Are you serious? Or you are just showing your ignorance? The voter’s had spoken, period! Eight years for scare tactics doesn’t work anymore. If you and your cohorts continue doing these instead of focusing what is the right offense to regain the Republicans footing in the next four years; then expect to lose again.
You are fighting about a wrong belief and a twisted fact, hellooooo wake up! The only thing that I agree with you is this; “FREEDOM is for everyone!”. This is only the right thing you had stated at your contribution and you have it, do you?
Dan Barnes:
Most of us conservative yahoos seem to have a better grasp of economics than you do.
The current administration is abetting our economic downfall more ferociously than any that have gone before.
It is time for you to understand that most conservatives think Rush Limbaugh and his ilk are idiots and all administrations have been selling us out for the last 100 years.
It is time to move away from right and left and get our ecnomic house in order before we are unable to accomplish any of our national goals - whether they be right or left leaning.
you can believe what ever you want about her being a racist, I'm more worried about her being an activist against the second amendment- it's bad enough the lies being told to strip people of their rights- free speech, right to own a firearm for self defense (she has ruled against the ownership of protective weapons already.... but NO NEWS is reporting it!) ...I don't care if she is puerto rican, black, green- if she wants to tear down more of our constitutional rights then she doesn't need to be given a life time appointment to a seat where she can decide what rights we can and can not have anymore!
 like the bush administation already hasn't taken enough of our freedoms with the patriot act? and the obama administration is picking up where bush left off and throwing it in to over drive- listen the right to bear arms in the Heller vs DC case only had one deciding vote on the side of the second amendment- this right has nothing to do with hunting, it has everything to do with keeping citizens ARMED to keep the government in check! Our founding fathers just brushed off the chains of tyranny from the british, who decided to confiscate our guns in boston before the revolution....they wanted to take the guns away so people wouldn't stand up and speak out against their oppressive taxes. you know why, because we told them we weren't going to pay taxes anymore. the tax system was unjust and un-fair!!! hum- kind of like now -right? and history really does repeat itself!
 if you think for a minute that making guns illegal is going to stop crime, your in for a shock. the FBI's stats already show that areas of the USA that have high crime are areas where GUNS ARE BANNED! (yeah all you NYC anti-gunners- this is what you want for the whole country!) - lower crime areas are the ones where citizens are allowed to carry firearms concealed....funny how we being a free nation should have to ask premission for a right garenteed in the constitution!?!?! the second amendment just reaffirms the right of gun ownership under the bill of rights- here's how the truth looks .... gun registration / gun confiscation / genocide - if you can't see it happening that way- study history and think for yourself for a minute. this didn't just happen in ww2 NAZI germany, it's happened in our country too.
  the people in government have let the banksters steal 17.5 trillion and every family in american owes around the tune of 500k to replace the money that was stolen by the banksters! yeah you won't see that figure on the news either.  if you don't believe me google bloomburg, google infowars dot com - and see what other people are saying about how the constitution is being removed, people are being enslaved... laugh if you want to but the game plan is there for creating a police state- if you want your children to live in a country where they are forced in to military service ...well your in the right country, google mandatory service GIVE ... before you call me a crazy, google this stuff and prove me wrong. I DARE YOU.
Well, it's no kept secret, he says it right here:
In the 2001 interview, Obama said:
If you look at the victories and failures of the civil rights movement and its litigation strategy in the court, I think where it succeeded was to invest formal rights in previously dispossessed people, so that now I would have the right to vote. I would now be able to sit at the lunch counter and order and as long as I could pay for it I’d be Ok.
But, the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and of more basic issues such as political and economic justice in society. To that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn't that radical. It didn't break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution, at least as it's been interpreted, and the Warren Court interpreted in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. Says what the states can't do to you. Says what the federal government can't do to you, but doesn't say what the federal government or state government must do on your behalf..
Change you can believe in....
I believe that she said something as concerns the right to bear arms that the amendment had to do with the federal government, but that individual states could make their own laws in relation to gun ownership. That is nothing new. Massachusetts, I believe, is one state that forbids or, at least, restricts gun ownership. I remember the debate over this issue suggesting that in New Hampshire, where you can buy and own a gun, has a much smaller gun-related crime rate as Massachusetts, where you cannot buy or own a gun.
Well here come the gun nuts posting thier contribution without any links or case numbers and all that just inuendo so she is on the wrong side of the gun BS.
Juan-
America is no longer the superpower. Change you can believe in, but really make-believe in.
Is it useful to anything other than your by-definition over-inflated ego to immediately call those who find your positions pathetic nuts, or other pejorative names?
Willow-124447;
“Juan-
“America is no longer the superpower.”
Really! What are your bases? Are you in the right position and authority to said so? America is still the superpower and just started regaining what we had lost for the last eight years. No other countries at present that is policing the world except for America. Doing this tasks cost billions of dollar and no one or other country leader is insane to take this over. If the previous administration does not use scare tactics for the last eight years, Obama would not want this war. He inherited it and the had to do it right. He left without choice at this juncture.
If you understand “Cost Control” wars is the best thing to avoid with. It is wise to divert this budget and service men to protect and serve our internal problems. Terrorism is looming at the South because of these Mexican cartels. We like it or not it is already spreading all over the nation and we are busy in Afghanistan and Iraq that is thousands of miles away. The real threat is just in our backyard and we cannot just simply close the southern border for so many reasons. We should mind our business before minding other businesses and left our own backyard unattended! That’s what everybody does at our individual homes, right? Why not at the entire country and borders?
I woudnt want her to hear a case I was involved with
Write your senators.
If you think this nominee is a racist, make sure your elected officials know this. Whether they're Dems or Repubs, tell them. We can blather all day long on these blogs, and that's a good thing too, but if our elected officials don't know how firmly opposed, or in support, of something we are, we have nothing to complain about.
Representation was set up when this country was a small fraction of its current size, BUT it was also set up before there were even telephones! Every senator has an email address, write them!
Yeah I called them about that TARP bailout ...and it didn't matter to the congress critters... you'd figure if 99% of your people called and said don't do it -they wouldn't do it... wrong answer. they did it anyhow, because bush's people told them it would be martial law if the economy dropped...they use terrorism as an excuse to do anything these days. the most recent line of BS is the cyber security push...let's get government oversite on the internet to stop hackers -they might be al-CIAda! The govenrmnet computers aren't even networked on the internet like our PCs.
the real reason they want internet control is to stop people from telling people about what they are doing.... stealing TAX MONEY in the form of bailouts and giving it to the banksters!
they don't care about you. but yeah if it makes you feel better write your senator- mine's Alen Spector -do you think that guy cares about anything more then getting re-elected?!?!
~Fitzy111 in Pa
Pragmatic to a Fault: It will be those poor dumb white men that are not as smart as a Hispanic woman because of her experiences that will vote her into the Supreme Court. So I'm not sure it will do any good to write to these patheticly dumb white men to vote against her and go against the president. They have been instructed how to vote along party lines. If you write to a white male Republican he will vote against her. They see the racism here but the poor whtie male democrats they will not be able to see it as racism. The GOP is being told they will ruin themselves with the Hispanics if they dare to speak against her, but since they supposedly all voted for the Obama then what difference does it make if they alienate an ethnic group whom we are told is already alienated. There is something to think about. How likeable is this lady among her peers. It just might be that even her own race might not like her just because she looks like they do. I don't like everyone in my race, they are not all loveable.
PTAF et al: If you object to her nomination, don't lie to your members of Congress about her or talk about single statements, provide proof she isn't qualified.
Who will our fine fearless leader choose next, first tax evaders..a racist who doesn't believe in the constitution..former employees from wall street who took the economic system down, hey they can now fix things..thats a grand idea Obama. God help this country and our people....we're going to need it!!!!
JC-1131450;
“Who will our fine fearless leader choose next, first tax evaders..a racist who doesn't believe in the constitution..former employees from wall street who took the economic system down, hey they can now fix things..thats a grand idea Obama. God help this country and our people....we're going to need it!!!!
Helloooooooo.....
How did she become a Judge if she doesn't believe in constitution? Answer; A clear proof of a twisted fact!
You cannot even spell the right words that you are using, put in order the punctuations and grammars using your own language? Then, you discredit a judge? View yourself in the mirror first, please…
She's been an activist, she holds the Constitution in disdain, she is a raciest, and has made some very poor decisions - decisions that are unConstitutional. In other words she holds about the same views as "Benedict" Obama. What's good about her????
Is that the breakfast dish or the catholic title?
richard-795963............funny!! LMAO
It's neither. It's his opinion, and he's far from wrong. Hus only fault is he calls these bad people clever names.
Not only is she a raciist, she intends to legislate from the bench. This is a dangerous combination. We do not need this type of judge on the bench. I hope everyone writes their senators to oppose this nomination.
hiring on basis of color never has never worked and never will! Last thing we need in our Courts is a loud-mouthed racist!!!! Dump her!
Roberts said it best. Just stop discriminating at any level. One may be very surprised what positive effect it has. To cure discriminating by discriminating even more has never worked. Living in New Haven is to live in a city who sees discriminatory practices as a solution to everything and it is used almost exclusively to drive public policy decisions like an id card for illegal immigrants to hiring fire department personnel. We're even discriminating against non-felons by refusing to look at felony records until the end of the interview process. Quite frankly, I'm sick of it. Treat everybody the same and quit allowing race to be a determinent factor.
That would require we get rid of all the racists in America. Think that will ever happen?
There will always be indiduals who are racists, but racism does not have to be institutionalized.
Should we pick the nominees on the basis of their sex or religion, i.e., male or female, Catholic, Protestant or aethiest? How many of the current SCOTUS members are one or the other?
Pragmatic, good advise. Your either race conscience or neutral. I think she showed which she is by her actions and decisions in life. Race conscience is nothing more than a race hugger. The firefighter case showed that. If you are not race neutral then you have no place ruling on the Constitution of the United States. Leave the changes to the legislative branch and quit trying to legislate from the bench
The liberal stance on race: combating "bad racism" with "good racism" is acceptable. Let the lefties define "good and bad racism". They know very well what it means. And they know very well what they are doing. You think the aftermath of the Bush administration was bad? Wait till you see what these people leave behind.
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The above link is a video immigration111.racist,xenophobes & bigots, worth the time to watch or just listen too. VERY EDUCATIONAL!
As a lawyer, she joined the National Council of La Raza and the board of the Puerto Rican Legal Defense Fund, two Hispanic civil rights groups that advocate for vigorous affirmative action. As a judge, she has repeatedly argued for diversity on the bench by alluding to the insights she gleaned from her Latina background.
Thanks for the link. Everyone who wants to know what "good racism" as advocated by Sotomayor really is should watch it. It uses double-speak terms like "affirmative action", and it's working. Even those whites who support civil rights and participated in the movement in the sixties are called racist by this new crop of zealots. Treatment dished out by the new black panthers at the Philadelphia polling station to a former white civil rights worker is evidence.
Affirmative Action was that when we started racism against whites at an all time high level, even though companies and business had to hire equal numbers of people, it seems that the white got the shaft. I've seen affirmative action in action and I can tell you that sometimes the best person did not get the job. It is a hard thing when there are not enough jobs to go around and there never will be enough to go around. But I do not see where Affirmative Action helped to cure racism, it only was gasoline on the fire. One would think they would be pleased with getting jobs but it seems it has made things more volatile.
More than a champion of human rights, it seems to me like she ran to catch up with the bus as far as the race issue.Once she got on the bus, she drove it. She appeared in the right place at the right time. She also may have been given a break early on by someone who didn't want to listen to her, and that enabled her, under the ol' squeaky wheel gets the oil situation.......and once that ball;s a rollin; , it's hard to stop. you're effed -if you admit favoritism , you are showing fault, but if you hide it ,well, you can be criticized for hiding it.......
If this pick for the Supreme Court suprises you, you have had you head stuck in the sand since Obama's campaign for the White House began. He sat in Jeremiah Wright's church for 20 years. That's where Obama and his wife got their radical Black Liberation indocrination. Wright's close friend and traveling companion, Louis Farakan, is infamous for his hatred and resentment of white people. Obama himself said, 'White folk's greed runs a world in need.' If that isn't a racist statement, I don't know what is.
Now, Obama chooses a self described 'latino woman' (not American) who claims her greatest qualification for dispensing justice is that she's not a 'white man', as if being a white man is an inherent negative in terms of judgement. I suppose she's right if you look at American justice in terms of race and gender and not in terms of the law.
This woman is a blatant racist, no different than Louis Farakan, Rev. Wright or Jesse Jackson. On her record alone, she is grossly unqualified. Obama, again, has shown his true 'color'.
What is so dangerous for whites is that so many people have bought into the premise that races other than whites cannot be racist. Whites had better wake up before they find themselves with no wealth or liberty.
The problems you pointed out are not excusive to the white race. Oppression and poverty as well as injustice are all colorblind though sometimes their purveyeors are not.
They, also, are not 'exclusive of' the white race, and that's my point. All races can participate in bigotry. 95% of blacks chose Obama as their candidate over Hillary, although their political platforms were virtually identical. Blacks went with the black candidate, even though Ms. Clinton had far more experience. What was the reason? 'Republican' General Colin Powell threw his support to Obama over military war hero, John McCain, whose political leanings were far from conservative. Aside from 'earmarks' their wasn't a whole lot of difference in their campaigns. Why did Powell betray the Republican party?
Answer to both questions: They simply voted on race.
And don't forget Oprah,Hillery's friend and supposed to stand in for women of all colors but she threw in the race card to
I learned a long time ago, "you can't judge a book by it's cover." Example; when I was a card-carrying HIPPIE, I thought only the "heavies", the "cool and far-out people were long hair freaks. WRONG! It was all cosmetics, a fascade. BUT, sometimes the mask people wear speaks volumes of their deep rooted feelings. Am I misreading this woman? She seems to exude a bitterness, a chip on her shoulder, a person with an attitude that can't hide bigotry and a serious ax to grind? It amazes me that since the new administration, here we are in 2009 and racial anger, bigotry, hatred for certain fellow men/women is at an all time high far worse than the culture war of the 60's and early 70s. I guess this is what you get when you insist that "diversity" is nothing but a good thing. Yes it is good, but in times of socio-economic-ideological chaos..there is NO unity, no feeling of kinship and brotherhood. Methinks we are headed for serious anarchy where one will be lucky to have neighbors on your left and right flanks you can depend on. We have no sense of "nationality".
The Beev: Watch this and you will understand how we Americans have been duped its not a race issue its a manipulation of our minds for many years. We have been trained via brainwashing to go with the flow. We all are fools! sold out by those who would not enforce our laws! City, State and Federal Government!
video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5519929737078857795
'Diversity' is a code word used by the left in this country. It's a mask for wealth redistribution. My children's textbooks used this word throughout their pages and always italicized it. Diversity eliminates the need for minorities to work, excel and take responsibility. They are victims, therefore, society must accomodate them. Free college, first dibs on jobs and promotions. I've seen it in government and the private sector. It is causing even more resentment and division. Even honest minorities see the inherent unfairness.
Any time you see "diversity" you better be scared........ change was a code word also.... read Saul Alinsky's book, Rules for Radicals..... the moron obama's "bible" and see what all the code words are.... he is going by the book exactly..... read the moron obama's autobiography and see the book mentioned in there also..... they are following saul alinsky's practices to the T...... saul alinsky was a neo-marxist...... read people, read.... do you know how to read?????????? I don't think so... if everyone knew how to read and were educated, the moron would NOT be in office today..........
Geez you know all that jsut by what is out there? You need to go into the seer business.
I don't understand. I've come to a conclusion based on Obama's personal associations, and statements, and statements that Sotomeyer has made herself. The dots are easy to connect. You don't need to be a seer, you just have to have some common sense and intuition.
If one cannot make a connection in this case, one is either a sycophant or intellectually dishonest.
The Beev - you are correct in stating that Sotomayor is an angry woman - and she has a huge chip on her shoulder and is about to be handed one of the most powerful positions in this country. I find it appalling that a woman who serves on the board of La Raza can even remotely be considered for this position. La Raza's well publicised motto is: "For the Race Everything! Outside the Race, Nothing!" She is clearly a racist!
Beev - you speak words of truth. There is not only bitterness and anger on her part, but there is a great deal of hatred and jealousy of one race over the other. The white race has done much to make America great and have been guilty of their share of prejudices and racism, but in the last 40 years for the most part they have bent over backwards to help the minorities of this nation. And I think without much 'thank you' for their efforts. Especially the white male has put up with a lot of abuse. One does not make their race superior by being jealious or full of hate and dispise a race that seems to have it made when you do not. If you want good, you have to work for it. Not many people of any race get the best handed to them on a silver platter. Billions of dollars have been given that the minorities might get an education and many middle class white people do not get those privileges. Outside of the love of God dwelling within people there does not seem to be a love for one another. Obama has not united, he has made the divisions and the hatred even greater.
A word for Sotomayor is that she did work hard and she did take advantage of her opportunities and she seems to have been in the right places at the right time. She has no reason whatsoever to be angry or to carry bitterness. In doing that she takes away from the good things that she did. I am almost positive that all along her pathway she had some good white people in there cheering her on and giving her breaks as well as those of her own race. I do know that there are times that all races discriminate against each other. It is a competitive world out there and it is made sorrowful when the best man does not win so someone else can have the job just because he is not a minority. And that could most certainly work in the reverse that a minority might be looked over because they were not the right gender or color. Life isn't fair, all we are promised is a right to pursue happiness not that we are promised it.
Every time I hear the minority sob story about how they benefitted from Affirmative Action( Reverse Discrimination) I always wonder about the truly qualified people who didn't get into positions for which they were fully qualified. How many lives were ruined by this bogus program whose real intent was to use minoritites to keep the Scumocrats in power by buying votes with prefential treatment.
The nomination must be stopped at all cost. Clearly she is a racist against White men and she doesnt even know that the Judical Branch does not make policy. SHE MUST BE STOPPED AT ALL COST
Letsdance,
And you are a racist supporter...
Let's dance has a zero rating on these boards!
This mess just goes to show how Racist the Liberal NAZIs running DC are! They want the NAU so bad they feel they need to keep "trying" to be within law and not so in your face about their Dictatorial Ideals. To some it's obvious these banking oligarchs "Bilderbergs, CFR, Tri-Lateral Commission) want to exterminate 6 Billion people through economic and military force. Sorry, but the REAL Patriots of 200+ Millions Gun Owners are about to rise up and take back their country yet again AND live in prosperity after they do so! The Forefathers were right wing extremists that borderlined Anarchy, not a bunch of greedy thugs that wanted everything for themselves like these Venomous snakes in the pit of DC. Watch out Commie Terrorist Obama Lovers your rights are also being flushed down the drain and I hope you wake up VERY soon and stand with us, Patriots, Freedom Lovers and take back what is inherantly ours as a people of all color, religions and creeds! R3VOLution~!