Instead of the universal tributes that often come with the Nobel Peace Prize, President Obama receives deluge of responses similar only in their intensity.
Nobel-winner Obama stirs passions yet again
Seeded on Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:39 AM EDT (msnbc.com)


my reaction was one that 75% of the world had.congratulations mr.president.what did you do to deserve this award?
He gave us reason to hope tht the USA would now start to engage the world instead of just bully its way about.
hspirek,
Hope=hope...Hope does NOT=peace
He was awarded the "Peace Prize," not the "Hope Prize." Again, what did he do?
Engaged Iran, Cuba, North Korea, South America, Russia, China and other one type evil empires in finding a way thorugh the mire that has been left my years of mismanagment from both sides of politics.
Add to that beginning the long road towards nuclear disarmament.
And along the way given people hope. All in nine months. Not bad for my money
hspirek1, I think your argument would be stronger had he actually kept his promise and pulled out of Iraq.... I'm sorry but I don't see a lot of difference between his foreign policy and George W. Bush's.
Shawn,
I agree. It is nice that our President received the award. However, it is a bit premature. He really has not accomplished anything concrete yet. Yes, he gives good speeches, but I don't see how that alone is worthy of the Nobel Peace Prize.
I know this is going to generate all sorts of hateful remarks, but George Bush liberated an entire country and received nothing for it! His father saved Kuwait and nothing for him either. Bill Clinton has done SO much good since leaving office. He deserves one as well.
I am all for considering Obama for the award once he has been President for awhile, but this is way too early.
hspirek1,
you can't seriously believe that at this point in his presidency that he deserves this award.perhaps in the future but it is far to early to call his presidency a success or a failure.
It didn't happen "all in nine months" because all the votes had to be cast in early Febuary. He had been President for two weeks. Therefore, it was what he did basically before being sworn in.
Personally I don't care each and every year they * award * this prize. Let's face it this comes from a country where shooting heroin is legal.
On the bright side Mr. Obama is now forever remembered alongside is peers. Nelson Mandella, Yasser Arafat and Anwar Sadat. Congratz Mr. Obama.
Pin a metal on him and lets see if we can get him back in DC long enough to give us hope of finding a job.
Not the Talk Prize either
Yes, and also his peers Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Arafat, Carter, Kissinger and Gore. Let's mention the good with the bad. I've said it many times, the Nobel Prize committee is just another international orgainization that does absolutely nothing for world peace, etc. other than stir controversy.
LET THEIR AWARD WINNERS ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING BEFORE AWARDING!!!!!!
." Then he turned away from the microphone and headed back to work — back to two wars, a ruptured health-care system, a broken economy. The crowd at the White House shouted after him, but Obama walked into his house and left their questions unanswered.
Yeah we are wondering the same things.
Oh...this is an NBC reporter asking this. Not some winger from FOX.
SNL has turned on him...Dems are turning on him...now NBC is turning on him.
Guess someone forgot to pass out the coolaid today. Or maybe it is just wearing off.
Hey at least my daughter got her obama ciapet...unlike him it actually does something. Maybe he will learn to do something productive as well.
That Nobel Peach Prize was GIVEN to the American People, for getting getting RID of GW and Dick Cheney! THAT'S HOW BAD it was, and still is, only difference being is that the American Republican Controlled Government is NO LONGER in power, and the NIGHTMARE HAS ENDED.
That Nobel Peace Prize was given to the AMERICAN PEOPLE who ELECTED President Obama ... that was how MISERABLE the World was with GW and Dick Cheney as the World's AXIS OF EVILS and WAR LORDS!
That Nobel Peace Prize was DEDICATED to the AMERICAN PEOPLE who were as tired as the World of the Neo-cons, GW and Dick Cheney!
It was their way of saying THANK YOU AMERICA, do not become lax, and to KEEP PUSHING President Obama to do the Right thing, and bring PEACE through-out the World. Do NOT STOP talking to the countries who dislike us, for ALLOWING the Neo-cons, the GW's, Cheney's, and Big Oil TO INVADE, MURDER and STEAL their Natural Resources.
Quite honestly, McChrystal should be asking to return home, to get rid of the AmericanTerrorist's, who run our government, and that is BIG OIL, Big Business, and the Politician's in the House and Senate whose been PAID OFF to use our Military to steal and kill for their control and profits!
Has anyone been paying attention, especially President Obama, the MORE troops we send in, the MORE VIOLENT the Afghans, Taliban and al queta becomes, and we loose MORE troops! They want us OUT of their country, and we should read the deadly signs and get the hell out! Save those mothers and fathers whose loosing limbs and their lives for their CHILDREN!
Our government can SPEND OVER 30 BILLION a MONTH to BOMB and MURDER other countries without blinking an eye! Yet when our troops come home, and the American People who have lost their jobs to CORPORATE OUTSOURCING, their HOMES, and HEALTH-CARE, here they are COMPLAINING, saying we don't have the money to CARE ABOUT OUR OWN TROOPS and the AMERICANS whose lost out, through NO FAULT of their own!
What a GREEDY, CORRUPT & EVIL country we live in! They use Taxpayers funds to commit MURDER and mayhem, but NOTHING to Care for the very people whose tax dollars they are using to continue their DOMINANCE over the World!
People who visit here don't need your plethora of upper case text. It detracts mightily from reader's acceptance of your post.
Do any of you realize the irony of the NOBEL peace prize? ALfred Nobel was the inventor of Dynamite and Gelinite he also owned and manufactured munitions. think about it a bunch of liberals celebrating with funds derived from death and destruction.
earthie,
interesting post.i feel compelled to tell you that more people consider themselves conservatives than liberals.more people claim to be republicans than democrats.more people disapprove of the president than approve.more people disapprove of his health insurance reform than approve.more people say that they would vote for the republican in their district than the democrat in their district.
the world approves of president obama because he is bringing america down to their level.the world does not want america to be wealthy or a super power.world peace is a nice sentiment but in reality will never happen.there has not been world peace since the beginning of time.how do you believe that that may be achieved now in an even more complex world.if it were not for our military we would be controlled by the whims of those who do have strong militarise.gwb was far from an ideal president but i believe that he was doing what he thought was best for our country as president obama is doing now.
"Some believed Obama had earned the prize by uniting the country"
Huh???
Someone spent too much time at Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch.
I gave up trying to get ANYONE to provide just 1 accomplishment, other than words, that he has done.
That is because there are none as of today. This was a joke, and I accept it at that.
This has stirred up passions, but not the good kind. I wish we had a president that would actually do something that made him deserving of such an award, instead of just talking about it all the time.
Generally the winners of the Peace Prize have either found a novel way to advance human well-being or put themselves at extraordinary risk to attempt to do so. Obama has not really done either yet. So I can see why he shouldn't win the award. But he has drastically altered trajectory of the last remaining superpower. I think people here in the states underestimate how much our country's direction, and even rhetoric matter to the rest of the world. Changing that IS a big deal. He talks a good talk, no doubt. But when that rhetoric is tied to the aspirations of the world, it can inspire even the Nobel committee. There is nothing wrong with being proud of that accomplishment. I'm proud the U.S. hasn't turned the corner of cynicism where a Bush or a Clinton are the only people we're still able to elect.
I know this really infuriates people on the Right. I find it entertaining that people who couldn't name ten Nobel Peace Laureates get so furious over this one. But really what matters is we always talk about winning hearts and minds and hampering al Qaeda recruiting. This is a guy who is actually doing it.
garcher,
Actually the reason Noble started the Peace Prize. He know what harm his invention of TNT would and could bring. That is why he took the money he earned from it to try to encourage and award those who sought peace.
As far as awarding obama the Peace Prize. If you saw the news clips, even those attending were shocked. They have turned it into a joke. Or at the very least, a gasps.
Earthie,
Get out into the real world?? EVER?? Seems you have a woodie for G"dubya" and Dick!!
Your hatred is so great that what you see isn't reality. As the article states, you apparently see BO as the savior.
The United States of America is a bully. And I was one damn happy bully when I fought in Desert Storm. I saw the attrocities caused by Saddam Hussein and his ruthless bunch of turds. I spoke with the Kuwaitis who were chased from their homes and their lands. I spoke with Kuwaitis who had lost everything, even the greatest treasures one can have, FAMILY MEMBERS.
I had just left the military when the incident in Sudan happen. Yes, Blackhawk Down was NOT just a movie. I saw how those ungrateful thugs dragged our military men around behind jeeps and hung them for the murderers, even children, to beat on like pinatas. It was very sickening and anger welled up inside. I thought about rejoining just so I could have a say and act upon my anger.
And yes, I still believe that we need to mow down the mountains in Afghanistan and Pakistan and turn sections of the MidEast into glass parking lots.
My surprise of Barack Hussein Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize for doing absolutely NOTHING to earn it was mind blowing. BO has done nothing to deserve such a great prize. Oh, damn, I forgot, after giving Gore the peace prize (by the way, all of his BS about global warming is being debunked every day) and Yassir Arafat the peace prize (really?? FOR WHAT?? Trying to rid the world of Israel???). Hell, even some of the recipients who actually care about what NOBEL was all about are stirring!! The prize is about seeking a path to peace and actually spending an exorbinant amount of time trying to reach the goal.
Your savior was nobody before 20 January 2009. In ELEVEN DAYS, he did nothing except give speeches. He has done absolutely nothing to deserve this award. And as you say, he beat George Bush and Dick Cheney and through them out of office. How ignorant does one have to be?? George Bush served two terms, that is the limit. George Bush wasn't running again for Barack Obama to win against. And we all saw what poor little Al did when he lost both times. He whined then and he is still whining. Just like all of you liberals are whining.
I will join the rest of the world and the past Nobel Peace Prize winners, this prize is no longer a prize to strive for. It means nothing any longer.
why? because they don't see anything that made him deserving of this award, they hate America? You sound more like the hater. You hate anyone who doesn't agree with you. MOST of the world is totaly shocked at this, and consider it a joke. So why are you so upset?
Zoo, great post!
Just wait, his head is about to explode from all the back patting he is getting for doing absolutley mothing. Next he is going to take claim to the name GOD, and just wait the fun is really gonna begin. What the hell were those people thinking, give it to someone who actually deserves it.
BTW Damn fine post ZOO, people seem to forget what our guys have gone through over there and for what, so a President whom no one knew about could come in and make false promises just to get elected and keep our men and women over to die on a daily basis for what, so our president can work on making this country just like Kuwait and Iraq and so on.
Congratulations are in order for President Obama on his award of the Nobel Peace Prize! His great and monumental accomplishments in furthering world Peace has been recognised by the committee. He now joins the ranks of noted peace makers as Yasir Arafat.
Seriously! how can they rationalize this! The man was only in office for 11 days at the deadline for nominations. I propose we change the name to the Nobel Hope Prize.Just makes me wonder is he coherent enough to realize that he has done nothing to deserve this? The right thing to do would be to decline the award. I am betting the President is narcissistic enough to truly believe he deserves this honor.
While our newly rewarded rookie President pats himself on the back for....nothing, the Taliban chief announces his disgust with the rookie's selection and... oh yeah,that there will be no end to Jihad!! Nice going Nobel committee. You gave your third "not Bush" award for...nothing. While Jimmy Carter's work with Habitat for Humanity might have been worthwhile and Al Gore's work on "climate change" might have garnered a science award nope you gave them awards for...not being Bush. Good work!! Hope you guys are happy when his swollen head causes him to do some dumb $h*t like .... nothing in Afghanistan and passing more legislation that does nothing to create jobs while leaving a tab for our children and grandchildren to pay.
Just another way for Liberals to spread the wealth. 1.4 Million Dollars . The only thing the Muslim did was tear down AMERICA. Apologize for being the GREATEST NATION on EARTH. Yea, everyone hates us but still everyone wants to come and Live in AMERICA, except LIBERALS. They want to destroy every thing our Grandparents worked so hard for.
They want NO-GOD, ABORTION, GAY MARRIAGES, GUN CONTROL,TAXING SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE to take care of the LAZY.
I better watch talking about Gays , do you know the Bill they are sneaking through with the HEALTH CARE BILL , even if you say that you disagree with the HOMO'S you will be prosecuted.
Yea, that's called NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Its called you say what we want you to say or else.
Cookie,
We don't hate America. We hate what this man is doing to America. You just keep looking at him through rose-colored glasses. If he continues to get his way, you'll need to take out a loan to get your next pair.
This is unreal, that is all I can say. How can ANYONE think this man desrved this award? It seems, just like the media who praises his failures...the Nobel committee is a joke. Wonder who he beat out? Look who Gore beat out and you will see how much this award is a joke.
The only passion this man stirs is voting him out of office. That is extremely exciting.
Obama did not nominate himself for the Nobel Peace Prize, and he didn't vote on it. In fact, he didn't even know he was nominated. So why are you blaming him? Whether or not he deserves it is immaterial, take it up with the judges who awarded him this prize, this is not a reason to stone him! You people only want to rankle him and try to keep him from his agenda is all.
Shawn...What has Lindsay Graham, Boehner, Faulkner or Perry done? Jealous, aren't you? All the young lions chomping after the new King ready to try and take over. That's why the RNC is such a hated organization by most Americans: "Takeover"....the only word the GOP ever knows. Sorry, not in a democracy. Shawnie boy....Grow up. If a single individual from a relatively average family can make it to Nobel Peace Prize and you can't, ask not what your country will do for you, overindulged as most Republican spoiled brats are, ask what YOU can do for your country.
That's why the world views Obama as a man of peace. All your GOP knows is fear and warmongering that kills, maims and generally creates evil chaos in a world where most people are fed up with it.
Great post...Someday we might have to suit-up again...Keep posting ZooCrew, we need you...
AP
You are all right, it should have been given to Bush II...a thinker and lover of peace and humanity.
Brandon...Or to Bush I, who stole Carter's thunder in Iran with Iran ContraGate his son had to quickly cover up as soon as the Texas machine got in the White House and played Wild West with an entire country. Kinder gentler? From a Bush? That's a laugh. Not when the Cheney puppet show was having a field day in the White House.
I wonder why the article doesn't state that even many democratic supporters are bewildered why he got it and say he should have turned it down.
Anybody that says he deserved this is just worshiping at the alter of Obama. And this MSN story may as well be a propaganda piece from Pravda.
Don't do this. Don't blame it on Cheney. The responsibility and the blame for the last administration lies directly on the shoulders of the self-proclaimed "decider." When people put it on Cheney, it absolves Bush from responsibility. That's not fair and it's not right. Iraq wasn't Rumsfeld's fault. Gitmo was not Cheney's fault. That's what Gee Dub wants you to think. That is the person he's always been his whole life. If he knocked over the vase in his momma's house, you know he blamed it on his brother.
It was Bush. All of it.
schwano....Sorry, but history will view the last 8 years as it was. Republicans now try desperately and pathetically to absolve themselves of accountability by saying "Bush isn't president" as if he never was. BS. History doesn't work that way. Bush WAS president whether or not Republicans want to grow up and admit a failure. The same pathetic individuals who hate all Democrats are the same anarchists who want to "take over" this country with their bully boy tactics. 8 years of the Bully Boys was enough. Rational, reasonable Americans want their president to succeed no matter who is in office. This constant envy of Democratic presidents is beginning to wear thin for the RNC. They've got no one who resonates with the plight of the Main Streeters. Because.....the stupid idiots at the head of the RNC think big money....big money....big money. Big money is on Main Street. It's been extorted by big money for big money.
My vote would have been for Angelina Jolie.
At least she did SOMETHING.
I feel sorry for past winners, because this cheapens the award to the point that it's now totally meaningless, sort of like the Academy Award for Best Makeup, or Best Costume Design.
There are those who will praise the President, and those who will denounce him. I for one wish to point the finger at the group of morons that had the audacity to award this prize on him. They have reduced the Nobel Peace prize to the level of the NCAA football championship, not worth the metal it's made of.
Those who won it in the past are being slapped in the face, not George W. Bush. To have to share their prizes with the likes of Obama is an insult, but it is the committee to blame not Obama.
So why so upset when Obama is blamed now for the economy and joblessness and American soldier deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan there for no defined mission, and the worthlessness of the dollar, and the widening racial and ethnic divide, home foreclosures, trillion dollar wasted government spending programs, and an expanding underclass?
The responsibility for the blame for this administration lies directly on the shoulders of the self-evident "undecided". It is Obama's fault. Not Biden's, though he is a dope. Not Clinton's. Not Gate's. It is all Obama's. When he was growing up, everytime he broke a vase in his momma's house, you know he blamed it on the white man, the white man's greed runs a world in need, you know.
Shawn nailed my own reaction. I have to remind myself that a group of intelligent people made this decision, and they have good reason. It's true that in the "tone" of his rhetoric, President Obama has changed the landscape and in nixing the missle defense in the Soviet Union's back yard, helped to bring them on board with Iran. In the bigger scope of things, that is quite a bit, indeed.
And the American Taliban continues its eternal rant... Forget what's good for the country. If it's tied to Obama then it's bad! Unless of course it includes losing the Olympics, then we can all stand and cheer! Way to put country first!
As Americans we should all be proud our president was awarded this. How does one justify that much hatred?
The right wing........is close to becoming ANARCHISTS very scary.
When America lost the Olympics, right-wingers cheered. They cheered a defeat for America; now watch them boo a victory for America. This has gone beyond bad manners this is showing their hatred for our DEMOCRACY. The right wing prided itself on being super-patriot's, what they are demonstrating to moderate Americans and the World is callousness to others opinions/beliefs. President Obama's Nobel Peace Prize from my perception, is the World gave this to Obama because of HOPE. America has falling so far short in a leadership role, because of BUSH/CHENEY policies/actions around the World.
The right wing.....thinks with all their saying NO, teabagging,wanting Obama to fail.....they'll have a chance in 2010/2012...........this former Pennsylvania Republican who left the party in 2004 because of the GOP cover up of Congressman Don Sherwood & Rick "Rubber Stamp" Santorum.....surmises they have a snowball's chance in hell.
Many moderates of the Republican, Democratic, Independent party are appalled at the right wing extremists and their actions. The leaders of the Republican Party condone or won't stand up to these extremists. America spoke in 2008 and the GOP didn't listen...................they ATTACKED the man the American people elected to lead America. We see this, we are appalled!
schwannomin
The blame clearly belongs with the entire Bush administration of hawks. This includes the criminals Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and more I can't recall. Their foreign policy was to tell the rest of the world that we didn't need them. If they didn't agree with us then they were the enemy. This sort of chest pounding behavior made a good part of the rest of the world despise Americans.
Some people are saying that Obama hasn't done anything to deserve this honor. They are short sighted and just plain wrong. President Obama in reaching out to the rest of the world with an open hand instead of a sword is putting this country back on the path to being a respected nation again.
Often the most difficult step to take to solving differences with another person or nation is to reach out and begin the process. President Obama has taken this 1st step even though it is not popular with many people in the US. They say it shows weakness. I say it shows courage, character, vision and provides hope for the people of the world.
Obama is a peace-maker. That is why he deseverves this award !!!!!
October 2002 Barack Obama's
2002 Speech Against the Iraq War
Illinois State senator
The Federal Plaza in Chicago
Complete Text
I stand before you as someone who is not opposed to war in all circumstances. The Civil War was one of the bloodiest in history, and yet it was only through the crucible of the sword, the sacrifice of multitudes, that we could begin to perfect this union and drive the scourge of slavery from our soil.
I don't oppose all wars. My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton's army. He fought in the name of a larger freedom, part of that arsenal of democracy that triumphed over evil.
I don't oppose all wars.
After September 11, after witnessing the carnage and destruction, the dust and the tears, I supported this administration's pledge to hunt down and root out those who would slaughter innocents in the name of intolerance, and I would willingly take up arms myself to prevent such tragedy from happening again.
I don't oppose all wars. What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.
What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income, to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression.
That's what I'm opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics.
Now let me be clear: I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power.... The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.
But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors...and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.
I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences.
I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda.
I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars. So for those of us who seek a more just and secure world for our children, let us send a clear message to the president.
You want a fight, President Bush? Let's finish the fight with Bin Laden and al-Qaeda, through effective, coordinated intelligence, and a shutting down of the financial networks that support terrorism, and a homeland security program that involves more than color-coded warnings.
You want a fight, President Bush? Let's fight to make sure that...we vigorously enforce a nonproliferation treaty, and that former enemies and current allies like Russia safeguard and ultimately eliminate their stores of nuclear material, and that nations like Pakistan and India never use the terrible weapons already in their possession, and that the arms merchants in our own country stop feeding the countless wars that rage across the globe.
You want a fight, President Bush? Let's fight to make sure our so-called allies in the Middle East, the Saudis and the Egyptians, stop oppressing their own people, and suppressing dissent, and tolerating corruption and inequality, and mismanaging their economies so that their youth grow up without education, without prospects, without hope, the ready recruits of terrorist cells.
You want a fight, President Bush? Let's fight to wean ourselves off Middle East oil through an energy policy that doesn't simply serve the interests of Exxon and Mobil.
Those are the battles that we need to fight. Those are the battles that we willingly join. The battles against ignorance and intolerance. Corruption and greed. Poverty and despair.
The consequences of war are dire, the sacrifices immeasurable. We may have occasion in our lifetime to once again rise up in defense of our freedom, and pay the wages of war. But we ought not – we will not – travel down that hellish path blindly. Nor should we allow those who would march off and pay the ultimate sacrifice, who would prove the full measure of devotion with their blood, to make such an awful sacrifice in vain.
And that is the crux of the day, Intelligent people made this decision, not those of you above. If anyone had read what the Nobel is for, it is not always what has already been achieved. The Nobel is often awarded on what can be achieved.
It would be nice that Americans can for one day, drop their bitterness and stand together as Americans for such an achievement. It is a sad day for America, it really is. That disent, bitterness, ignorance rules over an American Presdent receving the Nobel Peace Prize. Many countries other than America would rejoice. When Obama was elected by the people so many thought attitudes had changed within America and had hoped for better, yet, almost one year later and it is not to be. Very sad.
The "award" such as it is, was "given" without merit to Obama, the person. Therefore, I suggest that he not use AF-1 at taxpayer expense to fly over and accept said "award".
Single handedly creating an environment that strengthens the United Nations, the notion of negotiations and talks should be used 1st before war, the thought that nations should pull together to defeat common enemies, the notion to eliminate mass nuclear arsenals... to me that is a great accomplishment.
That said, does he deserve the award? Maybe not
Was it too early? Probably
Was it a politically motivated award by the committee? We don't know their motives... could be honest and noble (and don't tell me you KNOW their motives)
Did Obama know anything about it? No
Did he rub it in anyone's face or try to use it politically? No
The real point, however, is that Obama does not deserve the blasting from his detractors in his own country.
The GOP was probably LAST on the list to get the prize... Maybe they're just jealous. In any event, I hope this causes some GOP self reflection. Such an embarrassment... and in front of the world stage. They have told the committee "You lie"!
Skipper...My sentiments about Bush flying on Air Force I back to Crawford when he left the White House. He decimates the economy and then has the gall to lob more expense on taxpayers? What? The good old rails not good enough for the overindulged Republican brat?
Cindy987 -
Re: 1.47
Thanks for the reminder. October 2002 - that was 5 months before the "elective" invasion date of 20 March 2003.
At that point, Bush et al. still had 5 months to plan for a transitional government and an "endgame", which of course, they never did. Certainly "Curveball" must had some thoughts on that too.
Bush et al. still had over one presidential term to end the mess he had started and handed this off to the end convenient sucker.
ewent,
the extreme left who represent a small minority in america always resort to name calling and ridicule when they have no facts to back up there arguments.just as the small minority of extreme right wingers do.you attack me yet i only post my opinions and beliefs.you accuse me of being a spoiled member of the gop.i voted for president obama on the basis of his message of hope and his desire to unify the country on a non partisan bases.i have been somewhat disappointed.you belittle all the money hungry republicans yet fail to see that the democratic part is also in the game to expand their pockets also.have there been good republicans and good democrats?is it possible that there have been good and bad presidents of both parties?history will back this up.the difference between you and i,ewienie,is that i can be objective and try to vote on what is best for america instead of sticking strictly to the party line.blindly following one person or idea without looking at all the facts is dangerous.
For some strange reason the news media choose to glorify this man. The dumocratic national committee spear headed by good ol Teddy (Chappaquiddick) Kennedy basically shoved this man into the spot they wanted him in. He was elected and not by a landslide because people were afraid of McCain at least that is what the fear mongers that I have talked to said. They did not vote for BO but against McCain, I still feel McCain was the least of the two evils. When Mr. Ego Peace Prize is done this country will be so far in debt we will never get out of it. He said he is giving the money to charity how about a food bank for all of the unemployed with little chance of getting a job., especially if he gives amnesty to all of the illegals instead of deporting them.
i think the award given by saturday night live was more appropriate.
WOW DONKEYrider....you so prove the point, that the only reason why you all hate this President is because he is just some black man that is now commander in chief of this country. It does not matter any of the rhetoric you all spew...it comes down to race and if any of you were really truthful with yourself that would be the conclusion.
That mere fact gets all you greedy little white mens undies all in a bundle!
And the teleprompter thing is soooooo old...get a new line John..you are tiresome!
Obama did not nominate himself
Obama did not vote for himself
Obama is not taking the money for himself
Obama did not even know about his name being bantered about on the nomination
This is just a message from Europe that they like the way our country is reaching out to all, instead of rushing to judgement and wanting war at any cost, just to prove that we are almighty.
So ask yourself..the ones that are so intimidated by this ONE man..would he really be able to do anything right in YOUR book? I am sure your answer would be "no" and then step out of your little hate box and ask YOURSELF why. really why..and try being honest with just yourself.
I may not agree with everything...and I sure didn't with GW...and I may not like everything he does...and I sure didn't with GW either...but obviously someone did and that is why he is the President.
To get on this newsvine and call our President all the "clever" names ( and it is kind of funny to watch you all try to out-do one another..as if to say "my name for him is more crude than yours so therefore I must be a better American"), and to slur his family and to continue the same rhetoric you hear from "talk" shows is really not doing one thing to help make this country better. Actually it makes all of us look like way more of a joke than any awarding of any prize to any American.
You conservs really need to get a grip...you obviously didn't vote your local government well and therefore your national government either...so why don't you really just stop all your whinning on here and go to your reps and complain and call names and voice your racial slurs...cuz doing it on here (newsvine) just shows what idiots you all really are!
And b/4 you all jump over my race and my party..I am white, past middle-aged, a grandmother, a mid-westerner, a Christian and an Independant...but most importantly a proud American.
Ready for all your angry attacks but there will be no response.
How can everyone say that Obama has done nothing in office? I think he's done plenty.
He's brought unemployment to a 27 year high. He's quadrupled the deficit. He's apologized to every regime in the world that wants to destroy us. He's stabbed several of our allies in the back. He's given more money to Wall Street than Bush could have dreamed of. He gave hours of his time to Olympic committee members and only 20 minutes to his commanding General in Afghanistan.
I think he's done a lot of things.
Barack "ACORN" Obama in his teleprompter impersonation of his boyhood idol, Jimmy "PEANUT" Carter, proves once again that in spite of legendary incompetence, one can gain world acclaim by traveling the globe and poor mouthing America to the applause of our adversaries and other detractors. The similarities in ineptness between Carter and Obama are striking. The danger of course is that Obama is off to an even faster start in his quest to mortally wound our Constitutional Republic than that achieved by Carter. In giving the award to Obama, in the absence of ANY recognizable substantive accomplishment, as with Yasser Arafat, the Nobel committee relegated the Peace Prize to the same status as a trinket from a Cracker-Jack Box. Greg Neubeck
Yeah! This prize stirs something again all right!!! Let's hope it's the economy, because Obozo certainly doesn't deserve it and he and I can finally find something we agree on in that! If Obozo, Gore, Carter and Arafat can get one, anybody can! It's the must have item this holiday season and coming to stores near you. Help stimulate the economy the way Obozo couldn't! Get one for a stocking stuffer or just put one under the tree! This Christmas wish someone you love NOBEL PEACE PRIZE ON EARTH!!
Didn't you hear; the Nobel committee made a mistake on the prize category.
He actually received the prize for his work as an organizer for ACORN.
The Nobel category was actually for Voter Registration & Campaign Finance Fraud....
uhhhhh....earth to earthie!
He actually received the Nobel Lying Prize.
You know;
1) Government Health Care will save money
2) Cap & Scam will be good for America
3) Wasting these billions has created millions of jobs
4) Illegals won't receive free Government Health Care
Hey he deserves the Prize for convincing 50% of Americans the above statements are true.....
ZOOCREW
Thank you! Thank you for your time served in the military, thank you for being you and thank you for your GREAT post. If I could shake your hand and give you a big smile I would. Thank you for being an American.
How funny that when people have NOTHING to support or substantiate their position, they return to the old "it's all Bush's fault". It is just sad that these people have so little self knowledge of what's going on. Did something negative happen to Obama? Oh, then it's Bush's fault. Simplistic logic that doesn't even come close to having any relevence on the topic. Rather they resort to the standard Democratic Mantra. It is old, meaningless and shows exactly what "they" got; NOTHING. I can't wait until they wake up from their delusions and see what is really happening NOW, not years ago.
I'll leave with a news flash: Bush is no longer president, B. Obama is. You tell "us" to get over it, you should too. We got rid of the last bad administratioin Let's move forward and deal with the current bad administration.
nothing!!! travesty!!!
I think our President is trying to reach out and create Peace among all nations, it seems other countries can actually see this yet here in the US many people only condemn what he does.
I feel sorry for Bill Clinton. He's the only Democratic President in the last 40 years NOT to win the Nobel Peace Prize.
Of course, he was also the only successful Democratic President in the last 40 years. I guess failure has its rewards.
This "news article" reads like an editorial, a short story of fiction, or simply a gushing tribute to a savior with religious overtones. All it really does is show the extent that MSNBC/Obama News is sold out to the liberal agenda of the socialist Obama administration. To receive congratulations from France about joining the league of socialist nations is the final insult. The U.S. is in deep trouble.
Lefties just don't get it. When he starts caring about his own country and talking about the greatness of America, I might be behind him. But as long as he apologizes for America (for what, I don't know. America has done more for humanitarian causes than any other nation) and starts listening to the majority of the people on his domestic policies and starts DOING something about Afghanistan instead of waiting to see what the polls show and quites threatening to raise taxes on people that already can't afford to pay their bills and stops saying "you're going to be part of gub'mint insurance whether you like it or not" and stops appointing tax cheats to his administration and stops threatening the largest tax increase in history with cap and trade and stops weakening our ability to defend ourselves and stops pi$$ing on our allies and stops buddying up to the regimes that wish us nothing but destruction, I don't think he deserves anything except to become a lame duck in 2010 and a defeat in 2012.
Sure, other countries can say "good for Obama." They don't have to live under his thumb like we do. They don't have to see their jobs disappear, their businesses fail, their homes repossesed, their military weakened, and their taxes increase because of him. That's been reserved for (as he calls us) the "divisive" and "derisive" and "arrogant" Americans.
He got this award for badmouthing his own country. Nothing else. Pathetic.
What in Gods name did obama do to deserve this award? Please tell me.. Because other than bad mouth the US. And make nice nice with the muslims and kiss Europes ASS . What has the Messiah done?
Joe,
That question has been asked about 10 million times, and I haven't seen One (1) response. The media love fest is just out of control. They have made him a hero, and a world savior before he accomplished 1 thing. I'm not bashing Obama, he has made some great speeches. But they are just shallow words until the deeds are done. Will he do it? I hope so, but he hasn't yet.
joe. He got it for telling Europe and the Middle East how awful America is. That's all.
This is the first not-overtly negative headline on the subject. Congratulations America!!
It seems that Republican media only comfortable with negative, negative, negative.
Even now discussing the Bill about Hate Crimes, Republican Senators are arguing, "No, No, No". What are they afraid of exactly? The Constitution which says everyone is equal?
The Nobel prize is a great win for all Americans, so take off your negative eye glasses. Take a load off.
This is a good thing for everyone.
That's right...what exactly has he accomplished? (No, speeches don't count). I feel sorry for Obama. It's kind of like when little 5 year olds get a trophy just for existing at their T-Ball games. "Here you go little guy, we know you haven't done anything, but here's an award just for showing up". It's really pretty sad....
LMFAO!!! The writer of this article is in kool-aid overload and a mind numbed O-bot. What a bunch of Messiah worshiping drivel. You can't do better comedy then this stuff. Hahahah!!!
Even now discussing the Bill about Hate Crimes, Republican Senators are arguing, "No, No, No". What are they afraid of exactly? The Constitution which says everyone is equal?
Backhouse. Do you want to go to jail because of what you are "thinking?"
You hate Republicans, so if, for any reason, you get in a fight with one should you go to jail just because of what you're attitude is at that moment?
That's the problem. It makes attitudes and thoughts criminal. It's an Orwellian law.
Traditionally the Prize has NOT gone for actual accomplishments, it has gone for those who try.
Our President has not only offered his hand to the World, he has returned respect for our Country. This, among other things, means more support world wide, for our efforts at peacekeeping.
Whatever happens, at least he is making an effort.
We should be shouting with pride instead of looking for ways to deride this honor to our Nation
Obama won the Nobel prize for being an aggressive socialist. Being black makes him that much more charished by the communists around the world.
He is not only the first african-American president, he is our first anti-American president.
He stands proud with his nose in the air as he refuses to place his hand over his heart during the playing of our national anthem. He refused to wear a US flag pin on his lapel because, he said, "I don't want to take sides. The US flag is a symbol of oppression to many around the world".
He bows in subordination to the Saudi king!
He is also an anti-white racist. One of his appointees, Robert Reich said of stimulus money programs: "we don't want these jobs to go to white-male construction workers".
He ignores foreign threats to focus on his social engineering and re-distribution efforts at home.
Wake up people! This man is a FRAUD! He wants to ruin America! You leftists are complete fools!
Let's see....Arafat won a PEACE prize....but....Gandhi didn't........it all makes sense now...in the bass-ackwards world!
Cindy. I read the speech you posted and all it did was make me dislike this guy even more. More Bush bashing, more America bashing, more passing the buck, more pandering to the regimes that wish us nothing but destruction.
Oh, and If Obama thinks the Civil War was over slavery, he'd better go back and read his history books.
Oh Noez! The president got a Nobel Prize! Why oh why? Amurca is trash and garbage because our president is a democrat, and got a Nobel Prize!
The Colonel,
Do you believe that Hate Crimes laws will prevent free speech?
Do you think it is OK to physically attack people who are different from yourself?
Because we disagree, does not mean we hate each other.
Hey Colonel - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War#Causes_of_secession
The Norwegians giving Pres. Obama the Nobel Peace Prize was a conspiracy.
Congratulations President Obama for winning the Nobel Peace prize!
What about winning the Nobel Peace prize do all of you right wing nut cases not approve of? Obama got rid of our idiotic plan to base more missiles in Europe. That for me is enough. He has reached out to the world, not threatened the world with macho ism. He has not started any wars he is winding them down. Go back and read his speech of October 2002. He was not for the war in Iraq. Years later we have finally figured out he was right. I for one appreciate a man with intelligence in the White House. He may be able to pull us out of the mess the Bushes and Reagan put us in.
I really don't care whether you right wingers are racist or not. The country as a whole has moved on. Your racism and hatred only winds up hurting yourselves. You sit there and stew in your own juices. This country has figured out the war mongering, hate filled, antics of the neocons and doesn't want any part of it. The world is welcoming us back and just maybe we can live up to their expectations.
Shawn:
Obama deserved this award because he took time out of his busy schedule to take Michelle on dates outside of the country, thus finding this peaceful activity more important than what's happening to the American people at home.
Copenhagen? Hmmmmmmmmm Olympics no, Nobel Peace Prize yes, he made his final quest for this award going by himself, swooning the Netherland Countries. (Norway), Denmark, Sweden and Iceland.
Notice they call him the "WINNER"
Winning and Earning are two totally different animals.
And Obama has done NOTHING to EARN THIS AWARD !!!
This is just a distraction , so that we will lose focus on what is really going on.
1) shadow governments to replace ours when he collapses it.
2) under-minding of our Economy so when he collapses it , it can be replaced with the Amero.
3) Economy in shambles ( nothing being done to fix it )
4) Infrastructure in shambles ( nothing being done to fix it )
shall I continue ?
Dude. Are you gonna make me quote Lincoln here?
Dude. What the heck. Here's a couple for ya:
"I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the states where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so." (From Lincoln's Inaugural Address, March 1861)
"My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or destroy slavery." (From a letter to Horace Greely)
Want some more?
Perhaps everyone should read the statement from the Committee. It explains in pretty clear English, not only why they believed Obama deserved this award, but also how they kept what Albert Nobel had in mind when honoring our President. The Nobel Peace Prize is not necessarily given for accomplishments, but sometimes given for the winner's world vision. Barack Obama's vision of a non-nuclear world began when he was a U. S. Senator. He and Richard Lugar worked on legislation that dealt with loose nuclear weapons. The Nobel Committee took this into consideration also.
The most important aspect of this win is that it is a affirmation that once again the world sees America as a leader.
As one of my European friends emailed: Why can't Americans get behind this man and help him to achieve his visions. We, here, ( Germany ) intend to do that. She went on to say that if Americans don't like Obama, send him to them. They admire a leader with such a vision.
When she asked why so many Americans were upset with the Nobel win, I didn't have the heart to tell her, and maybe I was ashamed, to say that basically, Americans are stupid. There is no other excuse.
Oh and BTW Dude. Wikipedia is the WORST source for research. None of my college professors would accept anything from it as factual research. Even if it was one sentence, you got an automatic "F" on any research paper for using it.
"more people claim to be republicans than democrats.more people disapprove of the president than approve." Do ANY of you realize that by jumping on the “I hate Obama” bandwagon, which has been rolling since 11/6/2008... You are supporting the same Republican party that drove this country into the ground? Have they changed their policy since the 36th worst presidency of 44? No! They cling to their dogma even harder now. BY HATING OBAMA YOU SUPPORT THE GOP WHICH JUST RAN THIS COUNTRY INTO THE GROUND OVER THE PAST 8 YEARS! End of story - we are in a 2 party system … A or B Do ANY of you Republican lovers remember George Bush? YOU ALL STILL SUPPORT THE SAME POLICIES HE EMPLOYED THAT NEARLY SANK US IN 10/2008!! I know the media has already trained Conservatives (Connies) NOT TO SPEAK BUSH”S NAME. The media, which is a front for corporate interests, has, through Fox and many other outlets told you Bush had nothing to do with our current situation in America. That if you bring up his name you are a communist trying to divert attention. Bush took 8 years to destroy our constitution, our finances and our foreign relations. Barak Obama got ONE day to fix it. From 1/21/09 Connie media has been crucifying him with lie after lie… from death panels to birth certificates, to secret private security armies to “He’s coming for your guns“… a plethora of connie propaganda has exploded across America. It is the brainwashing and misinforming of 305 million people and, as you can see… it is working extremely well. DO ANY of you remember the economic meltdown? That we invaded the wrong country so dick Cheney’s friends could make big bucks on taxpayer money? (Did YOU want to pay the CEO of Halliburton $46 million in salary when his company over charged the American public by 1.8 billion $??) Ever hear about THAT on Fox news?? Have Republicans changed their views one iota since the 36th worst presidency of all time?? NO!!! DO you want 8 more years of Bush type crap??? That is what all you OBAMA HATERS are asking for. The Republican party is a front for corporate interests in America. They hide behind God and brainwash each one of you to support corporate agenda over American public agenda. We can never fix HEALTHCARE (SAVAGE says we have the “Cadillac” of health care - we rate 13th in care in the world, 30,000 Americans die from lack of care every year- we pay 37% more than any other developed country - Yet - you Repubs are out there defending the rights of the INSURANCE COMPANIES to rip off sick people!! Brainwashed Connie protestors out protesting for the right of insurance companies to RIP THEM OFF!!! It’s CRAZY! That is what you regurgitating the crap you hear on Fox news is doing to the rest of us. As long as the Connie party rules (which they do regardless of who is president) we will NEVER stop insurance companies - who make 3 billion in profit every year - Some CEO’s are billionaires, 23% of patients die from poor care. Yippee!!! If you are an idiot conservative - that is great news!!! Let’s keep THAT plan…. Iraq? We invaded the wrong country because dick Cheney wanted his Carlyle Group and PNAC and AEI cronies to make money. They knew Iraq was NOT any moral threat. No Wmd’s, NO connection to terrorists (Remember - Saddam was secular - UBL is a fundamentalist extremist, oil and water) N Korea was further along in their WMD’s. 3 trillion lost, 700,000 dead (35,000,000 million more Arabs hate us because we killed a loved one, and well deserved is their hatred. Republicans will be the downfall of this country if they are not stopped. The economy? Bush watched while American companies wrote $60 trillion in credit default swaps (most of us have never heard of them and think the $689 billion $ sub prime market sank us. What would sink you faster? $60 TRILLION ( THE WORLD GDP) or $698 Billion?) If you are conservative you will swear it was Fannie and Freddie, you wouldn’t likely know what a swap was (Faux News). That’s the joy of American corporate media, we have no idea what is actually going on. Bush did nothing as all these derivatives were written by companies that had NO RESERVES to cover them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ROAD TO “SOCIALISM” WAS PAVED BY GEORGE BUSH!!!! Bush F===ed it all up over 8 years - how in God’s name did you think Obama could fix all that in 6 months? That’s not even including the damage he did to your personal rights, to the constitution, politicizing the Department of Justice (enough in itself to prove he hated democracy)… supporting tax laws that make the middle class poorer and poorer and the upper class incomprehensibly rich and more powerful….. Pollution? Here’s Limpbrain on the subject… “"Global warming is no different than health care, is no different than cap and trade. It is simply another branch of liberalism, statism, that is designed to expand government control over individuals and their liberty and their freedom and their income." Rush Limbaugh Conservative Republicans, many in the Name of God, are supporting the rights of corporations to rape this planet, and humanity, into oblivion. All Republicans support a party which claims man has NO IMPACT on the earth - forget the island of plastic in the ocean the size of Texas! 1 million people will loose their homeland in the next 2 years if we stay our Connie course… all in the Name of God! Because Republicans are “MORAL”? (The rest of don’t think killing for profit is moral). The Name of God is blasphemed among the people because of you and the policies you represent. Does hating gays and poor pregnant women make you moral enough to kill for profit? Insane!!!! For the first time in human history, we are on a course to destroy life on earth. We may nuke the planet to death…. Or we may pillage it to death… in either case the prophesy which morns for pregnant women and women with babies will be fulfilled…. THAT IS WHAT REPUBLICAN POLICY PROMOTES. End of story, period, nothing else to be said. Your children will mock you from a dying planet … our names will be cursed as those who stole the destinies of all future generations…. As those who did nothing ……when death came knocking …..dressed in a fat man suit …….named Rich Limbaugh…… selling out the future of mankind for profit. So - why did President Obama get the Nobel Peace Prize? When madmen dripping in power and wealth take over the mind of 170,000,000 Americans, the rest of the world knows that… they DON”T watch Fox news… this is a last ditch effort to try and help the US get rid of the conservative thinking that is destroying the US and the world. Also - the idea of diplomacy over - “bend over - we are the US, we are going to occupy you and take what we want” appeals to the rest of the world, which would like to see humanity continue - not be raped to death for profit. The end…… or the beginning……… it’s up to YOU! For more information - see http://www.youtube.com/user/HopeForPeaceNow See the background details of how dick decimated America in the preview for DICK DOES DC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Movie!!!!!! The Colonel-964761 - Did you protest BUSH??? HIS Shadow gov... did you think THEY were coming to occupy 305 million people? "shadow governments to replace ours when he collapses it. " Who exactly did you think would control 305 million Americans when Obama's shadow gov takes over? Our military? Which we spend more on than the next 45 countries combined? Is that military gong to turn on it's mothers and fathers and occupy this country? If you make statements like that ( you sound just like Limpbrain or Wreck) have some back up. Where are your facts? If Bush broke it over 8 years - what idiot would think we could fix it in 6 months? Also, saying Obama has done nothing really makes you look ignorant.
Marcia in PA
Please look at the numbers. It is much more than the right wing that feels Obama did not deserve this award. It is far more than the right wingers that feel that Obama has sold out this nation. It is far more than the right wingers that believe that Obama must be stopped, not by force, but by popular demand.
You can blame the right wing, but there are many in the democratic party that are SCRAMMBLING to disassociate themselves with Obama. They know he is going down and they don't want to be part of the undertow.
Hope Forpeace. If you want to be read here, I'd try to keep it a little shorter. The lib attention span is usually limited to about three words.
For example: 1.Hope 2.and 3.Change
Oh! and you might want to try decaf.
Shawn:
You need to go back to school and learn how to do percentages - either that or write fiction. YOU do not speak for "75% of the world". Don't you people get tired of finding ways to disparage this President? If you took your negative energy and actually tried to contribute something constructive and POSITIVE – WOW how refreshing and useful you could actually be! We are sick of the party of NO, really. It does not represent what is good and hopeful about our nation and our place in the world. It and it's followers represent what is old and tired and useless and bitter. It must suck to be you. Dig deep if you can and try to resurrect some of your patriotism, assuming you ever had any or that you have a clue as to what that means - because this black man is going to be your President for the next 8 years and he won't be the last non-white, non privileged MAN to be your President either. There will be other people of color, both men AND women coming our way and moving this country and the world forward so get use to it. Being white in America no longer means what it use to mean – you do not get to have the only say, you do not get to hold on to the reigns of power like they are your entitlement. Done, finished, over, no more. Times have changed, the world is different out here, climb out from under your rocks and join us, otherwise, get the hell out of our way and that includes getting the hell out of MY Country if you fear change so much. There is no place for your negativity any more. For a so called “Christian” Country your attitudes and words are not in sync with that concept - Jesus' head must spin when he hears the Limboobs and Becks and the rest. Do you have any concept at all about what the Nobel Peace Prize actually represents? Do you? I don't think you have one clue, not if you can disparage them for selecting our President. Jimmy Carter received it – for trying to bring about peace and democracy in the Middle East and around the world. Wangari Muta Maathai, in Kenya – for trying to bring about sustainable development, democracy and peace, Shirin Ebadi – Iran – for her efforts on behalf of human rights for women and children. Kofi Annan – working for a better organized and more peaceful world. Mother Teresa – working towards ending poverty in India. Martin Luther King - civil rights, equality and justice for ALL people
Have we seen ANY of these things actually happen in our world as yet? These people were recognized for their efforts to bring about change and improvement in the world, if the committee had waited until there was actually peace in the Middle East to acknowledge the laureates who embody that effort hell would have frozen over and the work towards it would have fizzed and you think we got issues now?? If they had waited for human rights to be granted to women and children in Iran you probably would not ever have known the name Shirin Ebadi and women and children in Iran would have it worse than they do now. If the committee had waited for hunger to end in India - Mother Teresa would surely have been dust; and and India would have been vanquished from the earth. And given the abhorrent behavior in our country right now when it comes to race relations, well I’m sure while Martin would be happy we have elected a black man president, I know he would shake his head and say we still have a long way to go right here in the good ole USA. An now our country has the distinction of our sitting President Barack Obama being the current laureate, acknowledged "for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples" – you can rant and carry on all you want, but you can in no way look yourself in the mirror without crossing your eyes and deny the fact that our fractured and broken relations with the rest of the world took an exponential leap in the right positive direction the day it was clear he would be our President. It is for THAT reason he has been given this great honor. DIPLOMACY people - DIPLOMACY. Conversation not bombs, can ya git with that???? I know that’s a very tough word for republicans to understand, but can you try? You people must not get out much – take a trip some time out of the country and learn that there is a world far bigger than your little city, town, county, community. You can’t sit in front of the TV or the radio and listen to Faux News and Sara Palin and the birthers and the rest of the loonies and think that’s all there is or that is the way it is – how arrogant and ignorant of you. I have traveled internationally quite a bit and I can tell you this, the way the world sees America today is a far cry from how it was before Obama. Once again they see us with respect. Get a real life people – and be the true Americans you profess to be.
Congratulations to President Barack Obama on this wonderful honor bestowed upon him, I am proud of him and that once again our country is viewed as a welcomed citizen of the world.
President Obama supposedly has given people hope for change and world peace.
I'm puzzled. What gives anybody the idea that he has the abiltiy to accomplish anything.
Questions to his codependent minions who voted for him in 2008 and still believe his bullshiznit after 8 months. What did he accomplish legislatively while being a U.S. Senator?
What has he accomplished thus far as U.S. President?
Schwannomin, President Obama has not done anything to further our country's image with most of the world unless you consider we need to improve our image with Venezuala, Cuba, Pakistan, etc. He has rudely treated the leaders in Europe and Israel, and those who were our allies are now standing at a distance. The people in other countries are turning on him for his treatment of their leadeers. Obama has not united this country, he has divided it much more widely. Now, by accepting the Nobel Peace Award, he has only made things worse. Did you not hear the reaction from the crowd when the award was officially announced? The rest of the world is no more happy about this award than are most Americans. It makes Obama and the US appear "special" in a bad way! Others are furious that a man who has done absolutely nothing except to spend this country into the poor house while discouraging new job growth by handcuffing new business and small business, and the list continues of is misfires.
ewent, you need to step back and take a good look at the entire picture. The Republicans are NOT the ones trying to "take over" this country!!! The Republicans are trying to give the country back to the people!!! The Republicans are trying to keep the government from taking over the country!!! Do you realize the debt we are incurring and the result? I would love to hear your answer to our debt, to the increasing ownership by China and other countries of our debt and our businesses, and to the declining job rates. Just how are we going to address these serious problems?
Ms. Olaf said:
I was just responding to 1.38. I'm sure you'd like to convince people it is a racial attack. Obama is the one who said "white man's greed runs a world in need". That phrase explains almost every action and policy of Obama. He is hellbent on retribution, retaliation against whites and "their country". Obama blames white men for the worlds ills. I'm not sure he wouldn't be shoveling them into crematoriums like were the Jews in the past if circumstances allowed. And he's working his way towards those circumstances, with the help of ignorant liberals, leftists, and statists. Obama has not defined the limits he would go to to remake America in his image. We know the Constitution is no obstacle to his ambitions. I am confident his designs are way beyond reasonable, way beyond justifiable, and way beyond what Americans will tolerate or should tolerate. It's his bigoted hatred of whites and America that is the problem. I don't care what color someone is, if they are an angry authoritarian leftist with an irrational hatred for any segment or segments of society, like Barack Obama is, they are dangerous. Obama is the one on the racial rampage.
Americans are actually surprised at this choice, because we literally interpret it to mean a Award deserved by people who have been in the "trenches" fighting for peace all their lives. Not just a couple of month
General Petraeus would have been a great choice. He had to quit his position as Chief Military Man in the Middle East, because of cancer. His idea of a surge worked to save lives..
Now Obama better "surge" and get a decision made fast. Are we going to wait months and months if Iran comes to our doorstep with a nuclear bomb, and decide if we shall retaliate?
This is not Peace.
Hey Forpeace. I went to youtube and saw some of your videos.
Boy, you really hate Cheney. I mean I can't stand Obama but I don't sit around filming myself ranting about it. Seems unhealthy to me.
Re: Cindy987 - post 1.47
Thank you for recapturing President Obama's speech - I hadn't heard or read it before. Geez he can generate a captivating speech.
After initially supporting President Bush, I grew very suspect about the WMD in Iraq. After all, we had been flying Northern and Southern Watch since the conclusion of Desert Storm I. US Government intelligence was pretty solid on the weapons Iraq possessed, and routinely destroyed munitions and military capital equipment when Iraq provoked one of our aircraft. When President Bush fired generals because he didn't agree with their troop recommendations and time to complete the invasion/occupation of Iraq, I grew increasingly agitated with the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfield trioka. So I voted with my feet and retired from the Air Force. I also became more cynical about the party I'd voted for for the last 8 elections. The Republicans were not speaking for me as much as I'd felt they had represented me in the past. Trite phases from President Bush - "Don't you get it" did not explain the rationale behind the Bush administration foreign policy motives. I had devoured Bob Woodward's books about the Bush Presidency and I started searching for new leadership knowing President Bush could not run for a third term.
The 2008 election actually excited me with great candidates from both the Republican and Democrat side. I was initially looking forward to McCain as I respected his words and sense of urgency to do what is right (maverick in the Republican party). Hillary Clinton and Barrack Obama stirred visionary charges for a better America - yet while Hillary pushed a smart woman at the expense of her heartfelt passion, Barrack pushed vision, ideals, logical arguments, and passion. I felt torn about Romney - I knew it would be a tough road for Republicans in the South to vote for a Morman. But all of these candidates and more that I have not mentioned - had a passion for the Presidency and the United States that I had not felt in the last two elections.
I voted for President Obama. And after his first nearly 270 days in office, I'd vote for him again today.
Change takes time. I recognize that the changes President Obama and his administration are working on will not be achieved in the first year. I understand the time it takes to move legislation through Congress - and the political capital the President pays to keep his vision on health care reform. I applaud his decisiveness to set a date and timetable to withdraw from Iraq. I applaud his decisiveness to build a Afghanistan strategy designed to defeat Taliban and al Qaeda terrorist in AF/PAK. I am please he is leading a deliberated discussion on a troop strength and strategy for Afghanistan. I understand the time it takes for economies to recover from recessions and that jobs are not leading recovery indicators - jobs lag. I am pleased with the progress the economy has made recovering - yet while I know easing federal interest rates plays a big factor to generate economic action, I also know the fed does not control the business decisions and purchasing decisions made by individual consumer, small businesses, and giant corporations. I don't even try to pin the responsibility of the recession on the Bush, Clinton, Bush, Regan administrations. I understand economic cycles happen in the free market society we cherish. I admire the cooperation between both Bush and Obama during the transition and the immediate government actions they took to rescue failing institutions. I fully expect these loans will be repaid - in fact, many banks already have repaid the loans. During the loan period - the American public reaps the benefits of American businesses paying interest on these loans. I sincerely hope AIG emerges from its financial wreck just fast enough for the country to realize a significant profit from the massive loan the fed provided. GM and Chrysler have already used financial legal tools to restructure - declaring bankruptcy and emerging quickly with new vision. Millions of jobs were saved by the Bush Administration followed by the Obama Administration. We can say this recession exposed weaknesses in our capitalist system that require significant discussion about how much regulation to we need to instill confidence in banking and investing.
So while the Obama haters are belittling the President about the Nobel Peace Prize - we have to remember - he didn't apply for the award - someone else nominated him - and the Nobel committee selected President Obama. Given the turmoil that I've discussed above - President Obama has led a peaceful transition in power in a nation of polarized political agendas. The passion of the arguments between the left and right coupled by the degenerating economic conditions would have led to significant violence and bloodshed in many different societies - yet President Obama has not sheltered or insulated himself from discussion - he continues to led with a charge to Americans to have hope, patience, and believe in change through peaceful deliberated discussion on the relevant issues affecting our nation. He has generated a firestorm of discussion that has remained peaceful discussion. In that respect - maybe the Nobel Committee was correct to award President Obama the Peace Prize. Not for his actions in the 12 days in office - but for the successful rise during the peaceful election of 2008, and the promise of peace, hope, and change that he brings to the office of the Presidency. As I reviewed the past Nobel Peace Prize winners, I couldn't but help notice that the winners didn't set out to win the peace prize - but were more recognized for their vision and ideals (King, Tutu, Mother Theresa, Gorbachev); some were awarded the prize based on previous action (i.e. Noel-Baker, Arafat); and some accomplishments (i.e. Marshall).
So congratulations to President Obama and the United States of America. Long live our peaceful polarized deliberated discussions guarding individual freedoms, liberty, the free market. Our challenges are great navigating a peaceful course through civil society and individual liberty.
Look at where we are now, on the verge of another civil war, hatred being spewed like Niagara Falls; leaders (term used lightly) lying, cheating, calling each other names, disrupting every chance they can get, nobody being held accountable for their actions, and many other vile acts. Forget other countries look at what is happening in the US the most disgusting, worrying, treacherous, and vileness I have ever seen. Makes me sick.
As a firefighter I had to go through a state background check, my wife as a teacher had to go through a state background check, my daughter had to go through a state background check to pass her CAN class; why then should not politicians have to go through an FBI back ground check in order to run for office or hold any government job responsible for making policy change decisions? Is it because we could not find anybody suitable or because many in those positions now are not suitable?
Ask yourself why does my daughter, who has little contact or influence over more than 20-30 people in school, my wife who has direct influence over maybe 50 kids in school, and myself who has influence over patients I come into contact with have to go through a background check; while those who make decision over thousands, millions, and sometimes billions of lives and trillions of dollars have to do nothing?
Corporations have much scrutiny and are held accountable for their actions when caught; why then are politicians not held accountable to anything. Lying is now called political or flip flopping. Why? Why are they held to such little standards?
We have become a pathetic nation of people, and everyone is worried about the Nobel peace prize, that has become a hoax ever since they changed the format and made it political. Like everything else that is political- one side believes the other is crooks and cheaters, both can’t be right and both can’t be wrong. Hmmmm, maybe there is rabid corruption throughout the system and it starts with the people or it should; maybe, just maybe, both are right and wrong.
Ask yourself, every objection you have about the others opinions or what they do would it be there if it happened from your side of the political party. I am neither Democrat nor Republican, but here are some questions; If Timothy Geitner was Republican would he be getting the same criticism from Republicans, and/or would he be getting filleted by Democrats. Examples of this hypocrisy could run into the hundreds if not thousands.
Yes, and in a way that is NOT good for America.
roflmao!
Well said and Spot On.
Ummm.......no they don't.
I thought I was reading a romance novel when if first started reading this article. The writer forgot to mention other recipitants that obama is now rated up there with, i.e. Carter, Gore, Arafat. Great company.
for all you liberals this is sarcism.
Most Europeans think highly of Obama, he has done more in the nine month he has been in office to bring harmony into this world then Bush and his coons have done in eight years. Under the Republicans it was hate, lies and mistrust, and it is still going on now. The Europeans are glad we got rid of the republican administration.
Quiz: Which Idiots in the Nobel Prize Committee Were Responsible for Idiotically Giving Obama the Nobel Peace Prize:
Answer: Nobody.
The Nobel Peace Prize jury is the Norwegian Government - The Norwegian Parliament.
Gee. A socialist government enamored with OBAMA? WHAT A SURPRISE!!!
LMFAO!!!
Dick Morris Said it Best:
http://www.newsmax.com/morris/obama_socialism_nobel_/2009/10/09/270571.html
Sadly peace, Nobel prize, mean just nothing.
Obama has done nothing except raise fear over the Obama-care plan, spent so much time meeting with Chicago mayor re: Olympics, met just once re: Afghanistan, had a beer summit, talked trash about Kanye West. Oh yeah, he gave a lot of money away to large companies, unions, acorn and lastly he already raised our deficit far more than good ol' Bush.
Lastly, he continues to use predator drones to take out Taliban and Al Queda leader, and he personally authorized the shooting of the head of 3 somalian pirates by snipers.
Oh yeah, he deserves the nobel prize.
I bet you will not find 80 year old people working in grocery stores packing groceries in socialists countries like Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands, Germany, France, England, Spain, Italy. They retire with 70 to 85% of their last pay slip, 100% medical care, and vacation money. You sure see that here.
diane,
i am not sure what your problem is.i voted for president obama.unlike you the fact that he is black has nothing to do with why i voted for him.i felt that out of the two candidates he was the best man for the job.i congratulate the man for his achievement.this being said,you have not given one solid reason for the president to receive this award.the nobel peace prize is awarded for deeds done not hopeful visions.if you take your nose out of the us media and read opinions from around the world you would see that the majority of the world ask what has president obama done to deserve this award.your extreme liberal biase presents you from accepting any other view but your own.your own christian examples are showing through,you hypocrite.you have no idea what my political views are.blindly following the democratic party line with out asking any questions is very dangerous.i am not a member of the gop by the way.get out of your little tiny world and try to see the opinions of the whole country and world.
ShawnD19 You are right on the point, everyone should go on the Internet and watch either the BBC, Deutsche Welle DW, France24, Russia today news, it is all in English, and it better then what we get here. Also no commercials.
Let's see... I have an award that I can give to whom ever I please. I'm sure none of you had any part in the decision to give the award to anyone, so what's all the fuss about?
Deluge of response includes all the divisiveness of presidential campaign. You schmucks at MSNBC forgot dirisiveness. Whaaaaa, Wha, Whaaaaa!!! I see a new left wing stratedgy emerging. Make the right perpetually sick to our stomach's by referring to Obama as "NOBEL-WINNER OBAMA". It just might work.
This is from Taitz's blog.
Here is an affidavit from a second licensed investigator -Susan Daniels. She provides an undeniable proof, that Obama has used a social security number of a deceased person, someone who was born in 1890 and lived in the state of CT. No Noble prize, no feather in the hat, will sanitize the fact that this man is a fraud and is a danger to National Security. No prize will exonerate him. He defrauded the whole nation, all 305 million of us and needs to be removed from the White House immediately, and needs to be criminally prosecuted immediately. I hope each and every citizen writes an open letter to Noble Prize committee, cc White House, Department of Justice, FBI, congress and state Houses of representatives and state senates, letting all of them know, that this Noble Prize is an embarrassment to this country, it needs to be withdrawn or at the very least actual awarding of the prize needs to be postponed until legal actions on Obama’s illegitimacy for presidency are heard on the merits. The whole country and now the whole World are entitled to see the evidence, showing him being illegitimate, showing all of the evidence of massive fraud and treason.
Keep in mind that the prizes are political. There is a lot of pressure from different political bodies. Obama, just as Gore before him, is a stooge of the New World Order Crowd, of the Carbon Exchange, Cap and Trade Ponzi Scheme crowd, and a protege of Saudi Arabia. These people have bet billions of dollars and don’t want to let go of their puppet without a fight. They are trying to pull any string they possibly can to legitimate this fraud. An award is just one of those strings. Jimmy Carter got a Noble Peace Prize and he is known as a Saudi Money stooge who shamelessly appeared on TV, showed zero integrity and claimed that all criticism of Obama is racially motivated. After hearing this idiocy, do you still believe in High IQ and moral integrity of people getting Noble Piece Prize?
Percy Sutton an African American former Brooklyn Borrow president went on the record, on National TV (it was available on you tube) stating that a known Radical Muslim activist Al Mansur approached him asking to write a recommendation for Obama for Harvard law school, and he stated that Obama was supported by the Royal family of Saudi Arabia during his education.. These people bet billions of dollars on this puppet and are trying to prop him, to elevate him with the Noble prize. It will not work.
Dude,
"Hey Colonel - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War#Causes_of_secessionWik"
Well, there you have it...Wikipedia. End of discussion. Dude, did you happen to author that Wiki entry?
Bob, honey - Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini never won Nobel Peace Prizes
The rest of the world is not the US...sorry. The rest of the world had a very different reaction.
My reaction remains the same. The award *might* be premature, but the reason it was given is spot on. He's brought the entire international community to the bargaining table. Something no US president has been able to do for many decades.
This just in from ESPN.. obama nominated for Heisman Trophy.. Film at eleven..
Turns out Keith Obermann was first runner up for the award, followed by Shrek in third place.
one must have a sad life if all one can do is ridicule what you don't understand.
David Letterman will get the next one.
Hspirek, how empty is your life that you feel compelled to praise that of which there is nothing to understand??
Understand?? The empty suit has accomplished nothing to warrant this award. He has not given me hope - he has given me despair for the future of my country.
This whole charade is ludicrous and has devalued the Nobel Prize. Obama was nominated 12 days after taking office. Just what had he done in the first twelve days?? Not even got the first dog.....
No, I heard his teleprompter took second ! Seems to me that Saturday Night Live has a little more on the ball than the Nobel committee. The Nobel Prize has just been cheapened by politics to the point of now being irrelevent.
HSPIREK, I understand it, this just puts it in the 'Gammy' catagory, lipsync things and they'll award you something. By accepting it and not doint the proper thing and refusing it, he has diminished the award to all before him. Even more than Gore did.
Obama has NOT CHANGED any policies that he railed against on the election trail, he hired all of Clinton's idiots that started the terrorists thinking it is ok to attack us by doing nothing after the 1st world trade bombing, the bombong of a US Navy ship, starting a fight in Somalia and then running with his tail between his legs (that Lewinsky had to find for him), etc.
NOW, tell us WHAT HE HAS DONE?? That's all, can't do it? That's because he hasn't DONE anything at all!
Remember, Gore got it for GREEN thinking, go to public records and see how he lives up to that. Carter got it for having his picture takien along with people actually working for the down trodden, now all he can do is cry 'racist' and stir up anger.
yeah, great job... hey I PROMISE to end the wars, apoligize for things America has not done, bow to terrorists, now give me one!
Actually the nomination was the European Left slapping the GOP.
I agree with Porkbevr. Only time will tell if any of his policies are of any value. Right now(9 months in), he still has not kept any of the promises that were made to the American people. Our peopleare still dying in Iraq and Afganistan. The news media is keeping quiet on the issue. This August was the largest death toll for America since the war began in Afganistan. The General in charge has asked for more resources and has said publicly that without said resources, we will lose on this front and the sacrifices made by so many of our people will be in vain. 'Lose' means that more of the men and women on our side will be dying. Obama is changing his strategy to pick a fight on the Pakistan border. Will he be starting a war with Pakistan now?
Our economy is in the tank. His administration is constantly telling us that things really are getting better even though unemployment continues to rise. The world is moving to no longer use the American dollar as a standard because they believe that we are headed for a huge crash based simply on our over spending. At the same time the Obama administration is looking for additional funding for more of his special interest plans. How long can people keep believing the lies before they open their eyes?
To award him the Nobel Peace prize simply because he can read a speech with great conviction is such an amazingly sad statement about the state of the entire world. Is there truly no one who is doing more than simply reading speeches with great conviction (we used to call this acting) to secure world peace?
John-385319 "What is there not to understand? He was given an award he did not deserve"
How can you say that? He spent his whole political life pandering to the Reverand Wright, and Bill Ayres, and voting "Present" on State Senate votes and criticizing Bush every time he got a chance - and then he continued all of Bush's foreign policies and wars - even expanding the one in Afghanistan (after Bush won the one in Iraq) and killing lots of innocent family members along with a few terrorists in the Drone attacks in Pakistan.
He was certainly more deserving than say, uh, er, hmm, - oh yes - Osama bin Laden (but it was close).
The America Haters are the idiots on the Nobel committee who awarded a President who hasn't done one thing to get jobs. As a matter of fact virtually every piece of domestic legislation has added to the jobs loss. That's worthy of a prize? But at least he's not Bush!!
Cookie, you talk about American Haters, Girl people who live in GLASS HOUSES should not throw STONES. No Body hates America more than Obama and his COMMUNIST FRIENDS. Open your eyes Girl. Or get your head out of the sand.
Almost all of his Czars are Communist along with Bill Ayers and his Preacher, Al Sharpton, Jessy Jackson and the whole DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
Why are all the Black Preachers who call themselves Reverand so ANTI AMERICAN,and ANTI- GOD.
Amanda...When you are in line, I'll complain. Till then, not a single Republican has made it yet. Jealousy, envy, rancor and hatred....all Republican rituals.
I beg to differ with most of you...Obama has accomplished several things...he has spent over 700 billion dollars, took sides on the Gates arrest, woke up the entire silent majority and seniors, tried to take over the health care industry, took over the auto industry, took over the financial system of America, put tax cheats in his cabinet, put radical Czars in his office, has not said one word about the corrupt ACORN in which he was very involved and also stood behind them, and has managed to do more harm to racism in this country than was around in Dr. King's day. And for all of this, he has been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize...what a joke. If it were given for the above accomplishments, he would have, indeed, earned it.
Wanda...only the truly pathetic don't get it. How do you dare blame Obama for the 8 years of Republican spending on Iraq that was totally unnecessary? Is it that you people can't admit you are ever wrong? And take a president in office 10 months to task for what you people voted for the last 8 years? Bush's Medicare Part B is a monstrous failure because poor elderly Americans are paying through the nose and who benefitted most from every Bush action if not his Big Money Big Business campaign donors?
You want to forget the last 8 years? Sorry, Toots....not going to happen. Too many of us watched as Bush and Cheney tore this country to shreds with their gun slinger policies.
ewent, you liberals always bring up what happened during Bush's days in Office, But you never talk about when Clinton was in and the Terrorist were Bombing our Embassies around the world and KILLING AMERICANS. Do you just see out of your LEFT EYE.??? You never bring up that the WHOLE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION said that Hussein had WMDs and something had to be done, But it never was when Clinton was in Office. CHICKEN WILL. Yeah, Blame everything on Bush.
When 9/11 happened Clinton said why didn't that happen during my days. Well IT DID and he didn't do anything any ways.
You Liberals must of all been born after 2000, because you seem like you don't know what happened before that.
Good post, ewent, and you're absolutely right. Preemptive strikes, torture, 935 lies told to get us into a war with Iraq, trillion dollar bailouts of the financial industry, the worst recession since the Great Depression, the list is endless.
The American Taliban isn't going to remember that though. They think if they keep blaming Obama, as if all these things started on Jan 20th, then the rest of the country will forget and except it as truth. Hitler once made the statement that if you lie enough, and make it a totally absurd lie, then it will be believed.
(BTW, it's Medicare D that was the Bush administration's gift to the pharmaceutical industry, not B.)
Wow Ewent learn how your country works. Pelosi has been signing the pay checks for the war for the last 3 yrs while Bush whored himself out to her spending to get his war budget. Congress holds the purse strings. I voted against Bush both times but didn't not vote for Obama. Straight party voters disgust me, locally I voted for both Dem's and Rep's which ever seemed the best choice. Obama and Pelosi have only tripled the deficit in his first year. He has and had done nothing to deserve this award when it was voted on in Feb. Nor has we earned it since then. The real losers are the 250 nominees that didn't get a real chance at an award they deserve. How about the women's right activist in Afghanistan or the guy in Columbia fighting for peace among many other truly deserving people. This doesn't make me an American hater to have hoped a peace prize would be awarded to a deserving candidate.
John Bartimac...I never talk about what Clinton did because when Clinton was president, I also had no problem with his policies. I was also a lot more prosperous then. What is it about Bush policies taking money from the middle class and giving it to the 1% you don't get? With the Bushes it was always war on Main Street versus Wall Street.
How do you expect anyone to blame Clinton for leaving Bush a surplus? When Bush left nothing and less than nothing to his predecessor? Was that just dumb Texas financial management? I didn't agree with Clinton's ideas on NAFTA then and I still don't.
I worked in the international marketing division of two very large companies in the 70' and 80's. I saw for myself that few countries outside the US could afford US exports. But, you want us to forget that Bush also pushed for CAFTA and SAFTA while he was in office. That was the worst idea yet. How can anyone is Guatemala afford to buy American exports?
I was born in 1946 from two parents who lived through the Great Depression they blamed on Hoover's Big Business policies. I've been suspicious of Republican Big Business presidents ever since.
When you talk about killing and bombings....who but Bush was responsible for the tens of thousands of dead Iraqi civilians and thousands of American military? You cannot possibly equate one with the other and you know it. Getting you to admit that is like a dentist trying to extract your molar without anesthesia.
Banadanrich...I know how my country works. I also am not a naive right winger like you are. I've probably been around a lot longer and know more than the bully boy brigades who don't have enough hair on their butts to know what they are talking about...other than those GI Joe games they love to play when they were 5 years old. Who had the Senate and Congress before 2006, pallie? How do you manage to just erase years of Republican dominance over Congress by Gingrich and his bully boys? Surely you are old enough to remember the stunts Gingrich pulled back then? Their way or the highway, remember? So...don't go making like poor itty widdy little Georgie Porgie had to do what the wicked Queen Pelosi demanded or else...Only a really pathetic man can't admit that NO ONE ever told a Bush or a Cheney what to do...as was exhibited by their control freakism for 8 years. Try and get around that one...if you can.
amanda , now i dont care who you are... that was funny.
What's pathetic is continuing to blame Bush for everything. That said, evidently you have missed the recent CBO figures. The federal budget deficit tripled to a record $1.4 trillionfor the 2009 fiscal year that ended Sept 30th (3 mos Bush, 9 mos Obama, Democrat Controlled Congress). The previous record deficit was $459 billionand was set just last year (12 mos Bush, Democrat Controlled Congress). The President's budget which has been analyzed by the CBO and his budget is online (read it), would include $4,756 billion in new spending (more than the previous years record deficit) and $862 billion in new revenues, for a net $3,894 billion in new deficit spending during 2010-2019. This isn't counting the pet projects congress will more than likely add on as they pass Obama's budget through. This also does not include the Health Care Bill.
Since 9/11 the following, according to Congress has been funded or allocated to the two wars through 2009 budget.
$642 billion for Iraq; $189 billion for Afghanistan; $28 billion for enhanced security; and $5 billion unallocated ($108 billion per year on average) which comes out to 23% of the total deficit listed above for 2009. So don't think that the two wars are our problems, when 77% is domestic spending
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL33110.pdf
Now, Bush was responsible for not using his veto powers on bills coming out of congress with way to much spending during his 8 years. He was also responsible for the 1st stimulus package. But anything after he stepped out of office and the January change over, that got added to the debt is on Obama and this Democratic congress, not on Bush. It's not about party either, the Republicans spent far to much while they had control. Walking blindly along party lines is what is pathetic. The sooner people realize this, the sooner we will get out of the mess we are in. Get over the blame Bush game already!!
Although, yes Medicare in itself is a monstrous failure due to costs, I hate to tell you but Medicate "B" was created July 30, 1965. If you can't get this one right, then one can understand why you cannot get your facts straight on any other comment you make. Before our government implements another health care program, they better fix the ones they have! Medicare, Medicaid & VA!!
The problems of today began long before Bush came into office. The sooner individuals such as yourself get off the Blame Bush bandwagon and realize this the better we all will be. The President is not the ONLY individual in Government to create problems, the majority is Congress. President's come and go, thank god!!! Congress has been there for decades... Put the blame where it should be, on Congress. President's "propose" budget spending, Congress "approves and almost always add on to that spending budget spending".
John and any other rightie....why do you have America and everything it represents?
Cookie. I "have" America because I work and pay taxes to "have" America.
Now tell me, why do you HATE America?
Any of you Obamamanics wish to take on the actual basis of who gets awarded? Please for the 1,349,193rd time, what has Obama done to deserve this? Please don't copy and paste his speeches, those are words, not deeds.
And ewent. Just to help you out, Theodore Roosevelt received the award, and he was a Republican. There are more, but you can do your own research. So you post is not correct. Care to applogize to Amanda? :)
cookie, you bring to mind the old addage,"you cant win an argument with an idiot".
Tom:
This will not slap the GOP---it will enhance their chances for a win in 2010---
Everyone was surprised Pres. Obama won the award, then really started to think about what he has NOT done.
12 days into the Presidency. We are all candidates for the next Nobel Peace Prize. It doens't mean anything.
It is a Political panel of peaceniks who watch other soldiers die, and pick the person who is the most like them, a non activist on Foreign Affairs..
cjb...If Bush left Obama a surplus like Clinton left Bush, would there be a huge deficit? If we hadn't marched into "Mission Accomplished" in Iraq like gun slingers, warring in a sovereign nation just to make big Daddah look good, and spent what we never had on Halliburton, would that deficit be so huge? In actuality what this administration has done is to crack down on crony capitalism that destroyed not only US financial and banking but globally as well. Hide behind your numbers. Common sense people who don't live so large on Main Street know what and who are to blame. If I don't get asked my opinion from chief decision makers on Wall Street, don't expect me to sit back and watch them bankrupt me without a loud roar.
President Obama now has an even harder job. Keeping peace in World without upscaling wars, and now pressure from the Norwegians, not to take on the responsibility of a United States President's job.
It was Obama's speech in the Middle East appealing to all Muslims, all people calling for peace that sealed the deal for the Nobel Peace Prize. Including Iran, promising they would engage in negotiations, who said they would back off from making nuclear weapons, then later finding out they also had more nuclear plants underneath the ground.
The Panel who choose the person are fickle. It depends upon which mood at the time they are to choose the final candidate.
It isn't always correct. It is to shock people, and to keep our President from doing his real job.
If Obama walked on water you guys would make fun of him for not being able to swim,
See that's the problem. You already do think he walks on water.
I'll clue you in. He doesn't. He does spend money like it's water and he does walk on Constitutional rights. But that isn't quite the same thing is it?
Cookie
A President is a leader. Obama is no leader. He is a precedent and nothing more.
It is clear from reading some of the posts here that we will never agree on what direction the country should take.
This is because while conservatives want to keep their own country THEIR OWN COUNTRY, liberals want to tear it down and change it into something else, something it was never meant to be: a chaotic rabble of mixed races kept as slaves to the state. Sure, they supply you with all you need to live, but the government will have totalitarian control.
Though they describe it in more euphemistic terms, this is what leftists (like Obama) want, and they want it BADLY. They think of this as "social justice".
Since the rest of us would never view this as any form of "justice", we must consider secession.
How about the "Conservative States of America on one side, and the Socialist States of America on the other?
Would you care to project what would happen 25 or 50 years from then? I'll bet the outcome will go something like this: The conservative states have a booming economy, low taxes, low crime, and a high standard of living, quality medical care and education, and must concentrate troops on their borders to keep people from the socialist states from crossing illegally.
The socialist states have a struggling economy, high taxes, high crime, high poverty rates, available, but poor health care, poor education.
Remember: Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.
HEADLINES!! An Nobel source speaking on the condition of anonymity revealed that President Obama almost lost the prize to runner up Snoop Dog.
Numerous news accounts from men and women in the street all around the world (none of them Democrats or Republicans, by the way) expressed disbelief (and laughter - "Is this April's Fool's Day?" is a quote attributed to the Chinese. "Well, he speaks nice but what has he done?" asked a working class woman in another country) at this announcement - and yet in the media's usual divide-and-conquer tactics, this article attempts to cast the issue in the usual, fraudulent Democrat vs. Republican rhetoric.
Again, the almost universal response of thinking people on both sides of the pond was the same: FOR WHAT? The actions of a small group of Norwegian politicians has mocked the achievements of earlier, authentic peace champions; will bring a deserved basklash against America's Hollow Man; and the Nobel award itself marches into irrelevancy.
errata: yes, that is backlash...comment above. thx.
The funniest thing is that liberals in this country are the only ones who don't get the joke. They honestly believe that they are right and everyone else in the world is wrong.
Since they love to blame conservatives for everything, must be that there are a lot of us in other countries!
sailorgirlgreen
LOL @ "Since they love to blame conservatives for everything, must be that there are a lot of us in other countries!"
The 30% of Americans proud to consider themselves as Republicans is by far the most consertativre group of people in the western world, that is why u all see libral bias in everything..you all are way off from center
I agree with you,I was a Democrat,I opened my eyes alot in the past year,Democrat leaders,including ones from my state are playing the the game that if you MUST agree with Obama or the Democrats,my vote count and I already told my Democrat Senators that they lost my vote.
Congratulations Carol, I'm afraid you'll find most Republican politicians are not much different from the Dems. I tried Independent for a while and then joined the Libertarians. If you are a fiscal conservative, favor small government and are a social liberal, c'mon and check us out.
Those of us who wish the president well are not overly concerned with this prize.
The people who are most concerned and dissatisfied are those who hate and dislike him. They only have ill-will for him; no matter the circumstance--whether it's good are bad for the country.
The Nobel prize does not automatically bestow peace or prosperity: In this instance, "It's a call for action."
President Obama is not a Messiah (as many Right Wingers prefer to label him). He is a human being attempting to correct some problems that were created even before he was born. I believe his motives are altruistic.
If you disagree with his methods for change; that's your right. However, don't just attempt to tear him down, no matter what.
As long as I see that he is working on behalf of the people of the United States I will continue to give him my full support. So far, this man has hit the ground running. He's a hard working person, and I believe people who are not ready to pitch in, offer constructive criticism, and work for the betterment of the country--should get out of the way.
Doris,
Bernie Madoff was, in the strictest sense, hard working. What's your point?
The Founders Party, based on the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and writing of Adams, Washington, Jefferson and Franklin will be emerging on the scene and in the streets. In defense of the American people and way of life. Fresh Tea anyone??
Nighshift,
Bernie Madoff and the president are totally different people.
My question to you: Other than attacking the president, what's your solution for peace?
Carol, I quit voting Democrat back in 1982, all they think about is Evil, Abortion , Gay Rights.
Doris - He's a politician. By definition, he's not altruistic. His ties to the banking industry, the insurance industry, and the 'Green' industry reveal him as a profiteer.
Here's the constructive criticism - he needs to be working on creating manufacturing jobs in the US so that we can earn money by selling goods to pay off the debt that we already have. It's time to take away his credit cards as he can't seem to manage to work within a budget. Until he can demonstrate that he can work within a budget, he shouldn't get them back. Running the people who create jobs out of the US and in to other countries does not help US. Encouraging people to invest in the US and rewarding them for doing so helps US.
Elaine...Do you actually know any charismatic people who don't stand out in a crowd? You people can't stand Obama's ability to make himself well understood and for his promoting peace instead of war. Sorry if warmongering isn't an eligibility for the Nobel Peace Prize.
What's he done? Can you match a single day in his life? No? It figures. I'm guessing you also feel Mother Teresa's being from a poor Romanian village disqualifies her and someone like Kenny Boy Lay deserves a Nobel Prize more? That figures too.
All of the individuals who have ever become internationally and historically known for their righteous views on peace and human rights are rewarded. Unless you want Charles Manson to be among the eligible, Obama deserves this for no other reason than trying to calm a chaotic world that was going nuts thanks to Bush. It IS a Republican issue because Repulicans are the ones who are griping the loudest. Duh!
fool stop watching fox i have relatives in england france and germany and the vast majority of people loved it. Fool stop watching fox you southerner you probably never travled outside the US. I do every summer and Christmas I got family over there
Elaine....He speaks eloquently, truthfully and without fear. Bush mimicked only words he was allowed to say as any Good Republican does. Wake up and smell the coffee, dearie. Obama is ten times the man Bush could ever be. You can't even tally up Obama failures in the same number as Bush's. And Bush had more wealth advantage.
People like you make me sick. You hated Clinton because he didn't come from wealth. Now, you hate Obama for the same reason.
Every day of the week for the last 10 months, Obama had to clean up Bush's mess. Could you do it? No. You can't. So don't even go there. I wouldn't want the job Obama took on. And, if the RNC was honest about it, it's why they threw the election to Obama. Their whole idea was to leave a mess they knew no Republican could fix in a million years and who best to do clean up but a black president?
If the Republican party persists with its inability to act like Americans, it's going to continue a downhill climb in numbers until all that's left is a hardliner bunch of nut jobs with big money...But then, isn't that what being a Republican Blue Nose is all about? Big money you use to control everyone's lives?
Joining the libertarians is no different than being democrat or republican. They are politicians, they are people who have an innate desire to be in charge. They can be in charge, delegate, then when something goes wrong, it's the other guy's fault. If it goes well, they vote themselves a raise, increase taxes to pay for it and smile all the time they're porking you on the kitchen table!
Be a political party puppet if you want, but it's far better to vote for the person you think will serve you best. That is enough challenge for me.
Elaine...You went all around the world on this? How do you miss the daily reports on CNN and other international news media stations that show clearly a positive opinion of Obama. You are just one more sour grapes in the bunch lady. If you are an American, act like it. Where exactly is your pride in this country? Did Bush destroy your ability to honor your allegiance to the country that allows you to denounce opposition so freely and without merit?
ewent, after the Communist Democrats get done sneaking Bills in on this medical bill you are not going to be able to express any thing. They already put in the HATE BILL where you won't even be able to speak against Homos, and they are sneaking in GUN CONTROL BILLS.
Constitution and the Bill of Rights,according to you liberals they are the thing of the past.
John Bartimac...How many bills did Bush and Cheney sneak past us in 8 years? Hate is something the Republicans know best. Their vehemence and jealousy of this president is driving this country apart. They know it, salivate over it and know a divided country is prime for the picking of their anarchy. That's why I hate neoconservatives. If ever you'd read about what they are really about from their very beginning, there is so little difference between neoconservatism and anarchy that it shouts out at you no matter how you try to ignore it.
And who exactly comprises these neoconservatives? The largely uneducated, the supereducated with tons of money and others who fail into line with lust for control. This is a democracy. As an American, I have no other recourse but to protect my belief in freedom, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness with equality for all. To do less is to deny my allegiance to the country of my birth. Can you say the same?
I know exactly what he's done to get it. He went to Europe and then the Middle East and bashed America. He said we were "divisive" and "arrogant."
That's why they gave it to him. Lefties here know it and don't want to face up to it. Ignorance is bliss.
Sailor Girl:
There are more Conservatives in this country than Liberals. Look at the attitudes on this board. It leans Conservative.
Colonel....He told the truth. Something his predecessor couldn't cope with. Altering the truth to suit isn't truth. America cannot continue to play imperialist. We neither have the economy nor the power we once had. And, contrary to what you are trying to play as truth, it didn't happen in the past 10 months. Americans can't take anymore of the conservative controlled crony capitalism that is the cause of the destruction in this country. From Tom DeLay and Abramoff to the southern rich boys in the Senate, it's only about keeping themselves rich at our expense. Grow up Colonel. American people are tired of being taxed to death to keep war going for Halliburton, Blackwater and KBR. Enough! Conservatism is now anarchy against the people of this country who voted for this president. You and your ilk have NO right to overturn this presidency. Dare try and see how fast you get tarred and feathered in the streets, pallie. Neocons played out a farce with Clinton they don't dare try to repeat. And what was it all for? Crony Capitalism that kept Wall Street knocking the hell out of our jobs.
Colonel, under the Bush administration America WAS “divisive” and “arrogant”. It was something that needed to be confessed and apologized for. Things were done by the past administration that were totally embarrassing to any thinking American. We took all the good will that the world had for us after 9/11 and flushed it down the toilet in our arrogance. This was done in my name by an awful president. I was also embarrassed by a president that couldn’t keep his d**k in his pants, that was wrong and stupid. But not as heinous and unconscionable as “liberating” hundreds of thousands of Iraqis from their lives. Bush’s personal vendetta, OIL (operation Iraqi liberation) killed more innocent people than Saddam ever did. Don’t get me wrong, Saddam was a terrible leader and a murderer, but we had no right to invade their country and start killing people. For that type of behavior, we owe the world an apology.
Michigan voter...I agree completely. If anything bothers me about Iraq, it's the entire premise for going to war that has largely been concealed to protect Bush and Cheney. Our American military died there and some come back maimed ...for life. What higher level of tragedy do we need to prove that one ego, one overindulged supersized ego is the cause? How do we look at our injured military people and not feel guilty for not stopping Bush and his military cronies? This is such a huge black mark on American history. If I thought Viet Nam was bad, Iraq was worse for its unspeakable cruelty foisted on Americans who deserved so much better.
Anyone can edit video to portray what they want. It is more controversial to be negative. It brings in the ratings. Ask Rush. He even admitted he says a lot of things for the ratings. Good ratings, good money.
I imagine for every person who is negative, there is one who is positive. But I think one pundit, and I forget who it was, said it best: As a child he was taught that when someone wins an award, you say congratulations. If you do not like the person, or disagree with his winning the award, you say nothing. If you can't say anything nice, say nothing at all.
That's just funny!
The Nobel is a farce. It is a symbolic gesture from a weak and appeasing group of European socialists, whos countries are being shackled by Muslim aggression and their own political correctness.
Emotions and good intentions are not enough. We want a President who is watching out for us, not Europe. We want to lead the world economically and be strong militarily, we want jobs, we dont want government run health care, we dont want the huge debt he has created, we dont want to be perceived as weak. We dont want to be another dependant weak vulnerable European nation.
I find it amazing that you want jobs, you want to be strong militarily, and you don't want the huge debt "HE" created.
If in fact you are so confused as to how the country got where it is today, I doubt very seriously if you have any ideas as to how we get out of the mess we are in. As opposed to being an ass, go on the web and find out what the deficit was on January 20, 2009. As opposed to being an ass, find out for yourself that the recession started in 2007, and the entire monetary sysgtem collapsed last year while Bush and Paulson were in charge. Understand that we want to be strong militarily, but not all of us feel that we want to invade every country that does not agree with us. Understand that the 60 million Americans are already on GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE...you can't be so naive or blind that you don't know that Medicare, Medicaid and VA health care are run by the federal government....OPEN YOUR DAMN EYES..DON'T JUST SIT AND CRITIZE. At least be informed.
The Nobel Peace Prize is for being willing to take on difficult and controversal issues....he has certainly done that, whether you like it or not.
top- what I find amazing is with only 5% of the population receiving "government healthcare" the programs are filled with fraud ($500 billion in Medicare alone according to Obama) they are inefficiant and they will be unsustainable at the current benefit levels in 6 years. Yet you somehow believe that putting 100% of Americans (and anyone else in the country...legally or not) on these same types of programs will magically transform them into successful, money saving programs. History has shown that the federal government can not run a post office, rail road or even a whorehouse in Nevada without losing billions of dollars and you want it to completely control another 1/6 of our economy? Do you hate America or are you just stupid?
By the way, Bush and congress' spending was totally out of control for eight years. But yet Obama has more than doubled Bush's deficit in his first nine months (with more to come). And you think that's a good thing? You are an idiot.
Pipercub, please stop saying “we” and speak for yourself. You do not speak for the majority of Americans. Stop trying to change history. The “huge debt he has created” was forecast before he even took office.
While I agree that I want to see more jobs and the US to be an economic leader, I also want to see the health care system overhauled extensively. I am not convinced that a single payer system would not be better than what we have now. The current system is only set up to prey on the sick for maximum profit. We have the best health care system money can buy, if you have plenty of money you get great health care.
Pipercub, please stop saying “we” and speak for yourself. You do not speak for the majority of Americans. Stop trying to change history. The “huge debt he has created” was forecast before he even took office.
While I agree that I want to see more jobs and the US to be an economic leader, I also want to see the health care system overhauled extensively. I am not convinced that a single payer system would not be better than what we have now. The current system is only set up to prey on the sick for maximum profit. We have the best health care system money can buy, if you have plenty of money you get great health care.
Real change means rocking the boat; otherwise we should stay the course of Bush/Cheney.
If you really want change, stop trying to over-turn the boat. Offter constructive criticism and work toward the best solutions available. The problems we face are not easily solved.
Pipercub...You got the president your fellow Americans wanted. You had a president YOU wanted and it nearly destroyed this country. Obama may be young and inexperienced. So much the better...no taint from the Good Ole Boys Black Gold Club in Dallas. If you are an American, you should be proud of your president's accomplishments. One may only assume you are a halfassed American who only can be proud if its a hardliner right wing Republican who gets it all. Well? You got it all for 8 years.....all 1% of you. How did that help an entire country?
President Obama deserves to be congratulated for this award because this award reflects the United States as a friend to the world in its quest for peace, not an enemy as it was known in the past. However, Republicans would rather complain and bash the President than offer real solutions for peace and economic stability. Let's take health care for an example, the American people are waking up to the fact that the Republican party is obstructing true health care reform and this very issue will be remembered during future elections. Rather than offering constructive suggestions to reform health care, they would rather promote self interests and protect the insurance industry. If they truly cared about the American people, they would fight to protect the rights and interests of the American people not the insurers.
Ewent - You are the America hater. All I see you spew is your blame for all your woos on Bush. Give me a break. I voted for Clinton twice, Gore and Kerry and McCain. I am not naive enough to blame the world recession on one man no matter how bad of a president he was. And the deficit was not a carry over, last years fiscual deficit was 490 billion this one is 1.4 trillion and still you blame it all on Bush. Its people like you that actually got me to vote for my first Republican president ever.
Bandanrich...No...You are the America hater. You want your way. You'll go about with your ilk bullying until you get it. Even if that means destroying a second opposition presidency. I blame it on Bush because HE is to blame. He and his crony capitalists he kept richer than you and the rest of the middle class. I didn't vote for Bush either time. I took the time and trouble to find out who Bush was and despised the fact that everything was handed to him just because he was a rich little Texan whose Big Daddah managed to influence all the right people.
You vote your conscience. Just don't try to tell me that in 10 months a single guy is at fault for 8 years of incompetence. That is what this is always about with hardliners....an inability to admit the incompetence. Bush as a man is a pathetic misguided egotistical fool. That's his problem. He made it ours when he chose to call himself a "leader". He was no leader and I do not intend to gloss over that. Leaders are born, not made. Try to remember that. By the way, I was a Republican until I attended a Republican committee meeting and came away feeling as if the party boss was some Bible Thumping TV evangelist I had to obey. End of Republicanism for me.
Ewent, please check your definitions before you use terms incorrectly!
A president is a leader. Obama is no leader. Obama is a precedent and nothing more.
errata: yes, that is backlash...comment above.
Elaine ----ersatz to your erroneous errata. Mush, mush, mush....Palin is your version of presidential material? By now, John McCain would have been dead from the daily grind of cleaning up the Bush mess. Is that all Republicans know how to do? Leave a Democratic as a clean up person for their messes? That figures...overindulged, elitists who think others do their bidding and dirty work.
The president deserves that award because he is not a warmonger like Bush and is not out to impose American imperialism on the world. POTUS promotes a reasoned, intelligent approach over a "shoot'em up" cowboy approach the republs love - as long as they are not the ones in the war zone.
Peace means the military industrial complex, Raytheon, Haliburton, Lockheed, etc will have to find another way to fatten their coffers.
Pacifist is not a dirty word. War is!
Peace, freedom and human rights can co-exist.
Good grief, don't tell Michael Moore that! Then what stocks will he buy?!?!?!
Congrats Mr. President. You're officially in the club.
The Nobel Pacifist Prize Club
cgr...As opposed to what? War, war, war? Blood, guts, maiming, killing? What are you Republicans? Vampires?
ewent
In march the sitting precedent supported the war in Afghanistan saying "it is a just war...it is a war we must win."
It is now October. His approval ratings are falling. He suddenly has become a pacifist, or even worst, nothing. (Oh course if you listen to many of his critics he actually is nothing.)
Which way is it? Is this the war Obama wants to win or is it one in which he just wants the troops in the field killed off? Those are the choices.
His peace prize is enough to have Nobel turning in his grave.
Make Obama resign in 2009!
cgr...I'll take peace over a warnik like Bruce Hershonwarson any day. Liberty and freedom are the basis of human rights. Only pathetic people refuse to see that you NEVER can or will stop the inclination for freedom. If you can't see that people like you, hardliners of warmongering Republicanism are the reason your party is failing, you must be blind to the truth as well as to what this country was founded upon....peace....NOT war. Liberty....Not slavery.
Peace and liberty can co-exist except in the minds of small-minded republicans.
J Bolton...And not even that. In the minds of control freaks. It's like some kind of bizarre mental illness raging through their veins. I stand up to any of them because I find most control freaks are cowards turned inside out. Force their hand and they run like scared sheep. There's nothing sillier than a Bully with his shoulders puffed out like a line backer, his silly head shaved and that snarl on his face only Cheney could compete with. The likes of little me isn't about to run from those puffed up wind bags.
If you had any ability to comprehend what you were reading, you would have picked up the words "when peace takes precedence over liberty". However, in YOUR small-mindedness, you omit the key words in order to take them out of context. A signature move of the intellectually dishonest, or, more appropriately, intellectually bankrupt.
cgr
Peace comes at a price, and with the precedent (see above) not making up his mind, the price is going to be high for our troops in Afghanistan.
For those of you that think if WE just stop fighting we will be at peace, wake up. You have the freedom and relative peace that you do because others paid for it with their blood.
Obama is going to make sure plenty more blood flows by doing nothing.
He should have won the Nobel Needless Bloodshed Prize not a peace prize. What he has done is talk and try to appease. Let us remember what happened after the British appeased Hitler by giving him Poland. Are we ready for that again?
This was a really bold move by the committee. It would have been a lot safer to let him finish his presidency before they voted for him.
if obama truly had class, he would have turned down the prize, saying "i don't deserve it..there are many others who do." but alas, he has none.
and now, every decision he makes, which should be in american interests, will be to keep that image of a 'peace-maker.' the united states is in even more of a precarious position than it was before.
jilly...More Sour Grapes from the Sour Grapes Right?
jillie - how classy is it that he's donating the over $1 million in prize money? Sour is right ewent...
While Obama humbly said he didn't think he deserved it, he has better manners than to spit in the face of the prize committee's decision. And he DOES deserve it for changing the face of AMerican abroad from a renegade shoot'em up cowboy approach to one of measured, intelligent diplomacy.
ewent, is the only thing you can do repeat the propangda you've been fed?
Please tell the world one thing Obama did to deserve this prize.
(reads the article)
"The new winner of the Nobel Peace Prize walked out of his house just after 11 a.m., dressed handsomely in a dark suit and a classic blue tie. He descended a marble staircase into a manicured garden, flowers in full bloom, and stepped...."
Zzzzzz...
Rudy...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ to your jealousy. Men in this country are such wusses that they can't stand any competition for the center stage. That's why you all love idiots like Limbaugh, Hannity and the rest of the scagbucket slime who talk always out of the sides of their mouths so they can keep both eyes on the billions they make from your adoration. American men are the worst case examples of sore losers. If they lose, they whine, bully or gripe. What on earth ever happened to those honorable American men who knew how to accept a loss with honor?
All of the men on this thread prove exactly what most women are beginning to see....that they can only be happy if they are bashing success and God help the successful man or woman who comes from nothing. These overindulged American wusses are so unaccustomed to having to lift a finger that they no longer honor hard work, work ethics, business ethics or human rights ethics. That's all "liberal" to them. Sick, sick, sick. What in God's name was in their mother's milk to turn them into such American Aholian that they can't even congratulate a fellow American?
We congradulate and honor men and women that deserve it ewent. Nothing that Obama had done by Feb 1st, the nominating deadline for the Nobel Prize, made him deserving of the prize. I know that is hard for you to swallow because of your hatred of anything republican, which I am not by thw way, that you cannot actually see that this was purely political and not based in merit.
Wizard61....You congratulate and honor men like Bush and Cheney? Oh puhlease. You want to know what Obama has done? He has stood before the UN and taken to task men Bush could only label Axis of Evil. Obama has put this country back on a path to some sense of hope for a more financially stable future. But, you'd better get your act together pallie. The reason he is venerated by the rest of the world is because they know that if the US banking system failed, every country of the world would have collapsed financially because our banking system is linked to theirs. How many times do you need to be reminded of what would have happened if nothing was done? Right now you'd be speaking Chinese. Which by the way the bill to China grew by billions under Bush.
Bush brought this on. But, you don't even want to look at blaming the real culprit. I'm guessing you think Charles Manson wasn't remotely responsible for "his people" killing innocent victims either?
I was a Republican. I'm an independent now. I don't hate Republicans. I hate the control freak Republican wusses who think they and only they know what's right for all Americans. So, I put this question to you: If you were all so right for 8 years, why is this country in so much of a mess now? Don't bother to blame Clinton. He left Bush a healthy surplus. See the common denominator in your Grand Denial Fest?
Ewent do you have a single post on this page were you dont blame Bush for something in it. Learn to read Wizard never said that Bush should have got the award just that someone who desereved it should recieve it. Yet you jump right into blaming Bush for all the worlds problems. You make me want to stop voting for any Democrat if there is a chance they are as hatefull and narrow minded as you...
Bandanarich..No...to answer your question. I am a firm believer in holding those accountable to the accounts for which they are to blame. Too many Republicans love the idea of doing whatever they feel like and just getting away with it.
You vote your conscience the way we all do when we get into the voting booth. I am too too fed up with a generation of people who think you look the other way when corruption is eating at the very fabric of democracy. Either you learn to stop being an enabler and hold people accountable for their actions or you allow corruption to eat you and your family alive. Sorry...no grey area on that. And in light of where this country is right now, I'd say either you get on the band wagon and stop the skanky corruption from Big Business on down to the local politicians or send yourself a one-way ticket to China where none of it matters.
ewent -- Please show me where I have EVER said that.
By quadrupling the national debt?? Where are the jobs that are going to pay for that debt? Oh that's right, you just want to tax the rich to pay for everything.
I really do not care what the rest of the world thinks of who WE elect as president. As for the banking collapse there is plenty of blame to go around for both democrats and republicans. Bush did not soley bring this on, where were you for 6 years while Bush tried to get Fannie and Freddie in better control and the democrats block him every step of the way? The fact is that this entire financial mess goes back decades, primarily to us being taken off the gold standard and for allowing the government to raid the SSI lockbox. BTW, that is how Clinton came up with his so called "surplus". Today, right now, there is a $101.7 trillion in unfunded liability in SSI, medicare and medicaid.
(Added) -- The Federal Reserve Act was the real beginning of our downfall.
So where is your blame on the Democratic congress who has held the purse strings for the last 3-4 years. Bush couldn't have done nothing without Pelosi signing the cheeks. Its also the most un-american thing I have ever heard to say someone has to be on board with the political party in charge. And I do vote my conscience based on no single party. Hold both party's to blame not just Bush he had to be enabled. Its people like you that think we all most conform to your ideas that need to get a ticket to China this is my country I will vote how I want and for who I want. If I don't agree with what a current politician is doing I will voice my opinion and not just agree because you say so. You have also lost what this tread was about and that is what made Obama deserve a peace prize after 2 weeks in office over the record 205 nominees that had actually done something to deserve it.
Yes, the Democrats held a bare majority for the last 2 years of King George the II reign. And they had a much greater majority for the past year. But it would be pretty hard to pull the funding on a war that has already started, as wrong-headed as we were to go into the war; we had to support our troops once we were there. Until, of course a more intelligent leader would take us out of the mess Bush got us into. Your argument about Pelosi signing the checks is empty.
What Obama has done in the short time he’s been in office is bring a shift in the tenor of world politics and raised our status in the world back up out of the gutter where Bush left it. He may have been nominated after only 2 weeks, but the voting was much later when the rest of the world could see the effect of his well thought out and intelligent leadership. You just can’t see this because you’re blind to any good thing that has come from our new, elected by popular vote unlike Bush, president.
ewent,
"All of the men on this thread prove exactly what most women are beginning to see....that they can only be happy if they are bashing success and God help the successful man or woman who comes from nothing "
go pound salt...
Signed, An American Woman
here's betting you're single
He has no honor. How can he recieve a reward he doesn't deserve? And as far as this "He gave us reason to hope", all he did was B.S. everyone. There is no hope. Not until people get off their heads out of their behinds.
Why don't they award him the Medal of Honor too, after all he is the commander in chief and that sort of makes him like a soldier and he has talked about the war a little bit and it was really brave of him to talk about ending the war and closing GITMO. Also, someone said yesterday that he took his life in his own hands going and talking to the muslims. Yep, he must rate that to.
Except, in an interview during the campaign, he said that "no one questions my Muslim faith".
They don't want to kill other Muslims - just anyone who isn't Muslim.
they should award him the medal of honor for "saying" he will pull the troops out of Iraq not for actually doing it.
P.R. Are all American men such wusses that they don't recognize inherent fearlessness in a man like Obama? When you don't grow up overindulged by Mommy and Daddy and placed in a safe little cocoon for life by wifie dearest, you learn how tough life really is and you adopt a wisdom that comes from deep within. I find it hugely amusing that a lot of younger men fall prey to whimpism and envy rather than bucking up and facing that life isn't their oyster. Obama can stand up to virtually anyone he needs to. He comes from middle class, not the privileged class. This was also true of Clinton.
It's time for the overindulged wusses in this country to stop attempting to demonize people who are born with a "silver foot in their mouths", as Ann Richardson would say.
EWENT .... What does anything you've said have to do with the great O winning a nobel "PEACE" prize? What peace did he bring? He was just elected, had been in office for less than a month! He's done nothing but think and talk about "CHANGE"! He was a great community organizer, helps with votes, did nothing as a state rep and even less as a Senator since he decided to run for President as soon as he took the seat!
So tell me exactly what he did and exactly where this great man brought PEACE?
justwantitover...Where? At the UN meeting where he spoke at length about peace...DUH...Don't you people ever listen? Or do you only hear what you want to hear? Obama spoke at length to more leaders of the international community, including the Pope, than Bush ever did in 10 months. THAT'S what he did. You really are pretty pathetic if you can't admit that you are wrong and that this president is the vigorous mover and shaker Bush never was. Puppet strings in the way perhaps.
In my opinion, having viewed Obama in his speeches and at the international table with world leaders, he has a most unusual way of employing forthright diplomacy. Maybe what you guys need is to stop the narcissism and start looking outside your safe little cocoons at what is happening to your world.
ewent, maybe YOU should be a bit more learned. President Obama has rudely treated many of the leaders with whom he has meeted. As for him having met with so many leaders, I would rather he take care of the business at home!! Our economy is tanking, and he is running around the world. But I guess it was more important to try to get the Olympics for Chicago than to be working with Congress regarding all the problems we are facing.
The only awards that Obama deserves are for reading teleprompters and spending money, Any thing else is a farce, just like the man.
ewent
You will have to explain this silver foot that you have in your mouth, or your safe little cocoon that you were raised in. I would have gotten back to you sooner, but I just got home from work. I started working when I was 14 in the hayfields and when I was 15 I got my first real job, working on a trash truck. At 16 I was working after school at Walmart and trying to get into the army while there was still a draft going on. My parents finally signed when I was 17 and I enlisted. Been working every since, although two plant closings slowed me up for a bit. I was two weeks getting a job after the second. I went to college on the GI bill after the first. Been working the same job now for 21 years. Would have liked to have gotten one of those silver spoons that you are so proud of, but just didn't have time. Both of my parents worked and I figured that that was just the way life is, you work for what you get and let the government take what they want of that.
How little these international politicians know about how real Americans feel about the Communist- in -Chief. Real Americans didn't vote for this farce and will not accept his stealthy Communism---especially since it has put so many out of work. It's time to start taking these left wing loons to the block.
Lucy...Bush isn't president anymore...The Anarchist in Chief of Commando Tactics is gone.
Well though out reply ewent, and accurate. Real Americans did in fact vote for the change and thank god they did. Note that the economy dropped during the last 2 years of the bush free market. Read the stats Lucy, and think about that objectively.
I will say I agree the award is not yet deserved, and creates complication for the current administration; but do NOT blame the current state of the economy on the current administration.
LeftofCenter...I think the real reason it was awarded was more because of his UN presentation. He didn't flinch under the gaze of known opposition and yet, extended the olive branch to those who might want to reconsider their anti-American attitudes. Germany, England, France, Italy and nations that were wary of the militancy of the last 8 years have done an about face where America is concerned. Remember, it's the US that the world looks to when it is down. It's the US that inspires hope and inspiration by what we do...what we say and how we treat others.
EWENT and LeftofCenter -
The nominations were done within ten days of his taking office. The UN presentation was less than a month ago.
Come on you lazy liberals! If you are trying to make a point, please get the facts straight!
I guess now Obama's answer to the Afgan war is to include the Taliban in the Government. "if you can't beat'm join'm" the funny part is that in this mornings news the Taliban has vowed Jihad. Yeah let's give him a Nobel prize for that too. Hey with all the speeches he give maybe a Pulitzer is next.
John816...Armchair politics isn't your specialty. What Obama intends isn't even close to your version. How long does it take you to make all of this nonsense up?
Is he going to replace Rahm with Taliban? The way he is talking he wants them to be his bossom buddies...and, of course, vote for him in his run for emperor of the world!
The award was a farce, just like the man.
Excuse me but exactly what has he done to deserve this award????? I'm sure there are far more deserving of this honor. I just don't get it. This man is being raised to become the second coming of Christ.
AML-840863
Actually, it may be the first coming of the Anti-Christ.
second beast of Revelation (Rev. 13:11-18), is a person who will manifest himself shortly before the second coming of Christ. He will be an impressive miracle worker and during the Tribulation period, he will bring fire down from heaven and with commanding abilities, will persuade the masses to worship the image of the Beast (Rev. 11:15; 13:16-17).
Jesus gave telling words about false prophets in Matt. 24:24, warning that in the last days many false prophets would arise and deceive, if possible, even the elect. False prophets with their mastery use of false doctrine easily influence people away from the biblical mandate of God's Word, namely, the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Where do all you nut case's come from????
So far buzzybee, I haven't heard or seen Obama attempting to persuade anyone to worship any image. Have you?
Yeah Ben , all you Libs worship Obama. You think he is the Greatest thing on Earth.
He hasn't created a JOB yet, Gave Billions of Dollars to the same people who created this mess, so they can give themselves more BONUSES. The only thing you are going to get out of the BONUSES is the BONE.
Barney Franks loves giving you the Bone. He is one of the people who helped start this mess, along with Bill Clinton ,the Black Caucus, but because it fell apart on Bushs watch he gets the blame.
There is far too much misinformation, religious nonsense and sheer ignorance on these postings. Many of you have asked what the President has done. If you don't know by now, you don't have a 401k, IRA or investments in the equity markets. The United States averted a catastrophic financial failure by a timely injection of funds. Without these bailouts, the United States and many other countries would have experienced a financial meltdown that would have been unprecedented in our history. Without a viable financial and banking system, our way of life would quickly grind to a halt.
AML---Maybe, just maybe when Bush force fed the world hatred, evil, blood, guts and gore, the world got too steady a diet of that kind of tripe and upchucked. The euphoria over Obama was to be expected after the act the Cheney Bush presidency branded the world with. That was the Republicans first mistake....thinking they could force people into wars they didn't want any part of.
As for the Taliban, as Commander-in-Chief, this very highly intelligent president is one amazing guy who has it all together. He hasn't missed a beat yet. And, he didn't have to do any war campaigning either. He got what Bush left him. Now, you want to demonize the cleanup guy? Sick pallie....sick.
STOP blaming Bush...its OLD, worn out and empty. It does not make Obama better in anyone's eyes..it makes him weaker.
The blame game is over...Obama did not deserve this award and if he was any kind of a real honest man, he would have said that.
You can't blame Bush for THIS folly either.
BridgetM...No... I absolutely refuse to stop blaming the US leader for the last 8 years. Just to salve your guilty conscience for foisting the most inept administration on this country. I can blame Bush for 8 years of failed policies and don't intend to ever let anyone forget what he did to the middle class in this country. How stupid is it for you to expect those of us who lost the most during those 8 years to just shove it under the rug for you and your ilk so you can walk around free of blame? I blame Bush. Live with it. I blame Hitler. Live with that. I blame Kim Il Jong...live with that. Need more?
EWENT you better look who was controlling the Congress for the last four years...Democrats. I don't think any president, including precedent Obama, can be solely blamed. You have to remember it is the Congress that creates and passes laws. The president can only sign or veto them.
I guess he has been funny to watch so i guess he did bring us closer?
After sleeping on this and waking up I have a new perspective. The one good thing that came from this is that President Obama actually was humbled . I believe he was as shocked and as surprized as the rest of America in recieving this gift. Gift,yes because it was not earned. Many conseratives felt that he should of not accepted this prize but the fact that he accepted it on behalf of the American people was a new gesture on his part. So whatever the reasoning was for the comittee to give this to him, wether it was to bash Bush or to bribe the President it is no fault of Obama's. So now I would like to say, Congradulations Mr President for putting the American people first.....finally!
Beanne, It's true Obama SAID he was humbled, he SAID he accepted it on behalf of the American people, but don't forget what he SAID was written by someone else.
.......Good one.......!!!! funny !
PCMan..I thought Bush mimicking Cheney's words was funny too. Funny but pathetic.
Triaben, you're so right! He accepted it for the American people. The people of Canada will greatly appreciate that!
If he had any class and dignity what-so-ever,he would refues the award in lightr of someone that has actually accomplished something.He is a loser and God help us,we got 3 more long years of the Liberal Demcrat Tax and Spend policies.
first you should learn how to spell if you would like to be taken seriously and second he's donating the over $1 million in prize money to charity....somehow that seems pretty classy to me. And you're calling a man who has achieved the highest post in the nation a loser?...who are you again?
Kathy...Once you understand that the southerners always look to place blame for their problems on everyone but those in their own states who are bilking them of every cent they earn, you know that GaryfromVA is likely one of those people who is scared silly the feds are going to start putting teeth into federal gun laws that are killing innocent people in big cities, schools and college campuses. That's how they make their money down there apparently.
Folks on here are a trip/ So many are down on Obama because of what....he won the election...or he's black, or he's a democrate...which is it.? As for whats happening or rather not happening in politics..you need to put forth effort in looking at the do nothing congress we have all relected that have continued to do nothing but argue between themselves. So far ... during the past 8 years with Bush...and the years with Clinton..they have deregulated the banking industry...pushed this country in a war that none in congress have the backbone to want to win ... and along with that pushed this country into a huge debt that Obama is getting the blame for trying to clear out. And consider,,,it was Bushes people that set up the bailout of the banking industry and allowed certain banks to expand. Congress is being allowed to work on a cap and trade bill that will drive our cost for power up...that has already been stated by a number of power companies..it is congress that is writing all this mess...yet you folks are so hung up on Obama you are missing what is being put right by you all.
Ivan
View this link and you will have something to add to the list of things about this administration. This did not come from Fox New, but CNN who backs obama.
http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/17260182/1610997888/name/ftc-vi26.wmv
P.R.-737366
I just watched this video and I'm almost in disbelief, if this doesn't prove that the inmates are running the asylum, nothing will. The lemmings are following this administration right over the cliff. The only "hope" Obama has given me is the hope that he will be a one term president. It makes me sick to think what 3 more years of this administration is going to do to our country.
Being against him is simply American politics. Being against him because he won (and your guy didn't) or because he is a Democrat is fine. Being against him because he's 1/2 black is unfair. Being against him because he's the new Carter/Clinton is wonderful. Being against him because of his advisers, cabinet, policies and mannerisms? Great!
PR did you watch the clip where cnn was fact checking Saturday Night Live?? Its getting more and more entertaining watching the liberals tripping all over the place.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7x-dzXVcOw
Bravo Ivan! The view from France is that President Obama has already changed the WORLD by pulling the USA back from the brink of steeper decline....in finances, morals, isolationism, obesity, greed, death and suffering for lack of medical insurance. People stood (on a bus) and cheered yesterday when we learned Pres. Obama had won the Nobel Peace Prize. His speeches, his intent, his dedication give hope to those who suffered under 8 years of Bush. (amazing the US media downplayed the millions who marched against going to war in Iraq. Americans still think Bin Ladin was responsible). I suspect those mislead, uninformed citizens fighting the President's efforts to improve their lives via better/cheaper health care will secretly thank him when it is accomplished. Stop hating on a President who wants only the best and highest for us all!
IvanNC...One of the things that bothered me about the Bush bailouts was which banks he chose to bail out. Until you take a close look at why he chose the ones he did. Ties and connections on every level. Let's not forget Bush's uncle is a big time financial industry giant. There is so much more to what went on during the Bush years than it is possible to sift through.
"Bravo Ivan! The view from France is that President Obama has already changed the WORLD by pulling the USA back from the brink of steeper decline....in finances, morals, isolationism, obesity, greed, death and suffering for lack of medical insurance."
No kidding....HOW?! Get off your knees knucklehead. France owes its existence to America! Perhaps you should shut your mouth and run along.
jeepmanjr....perhaps it's you who needs a long drive in your jeep. You have absolutely no sense of diplomacy do you? According to your agenda, we knock down countries of the world just to be supreme being? Grow up. This is a game of GI Joe pallie.
Ewent
One thing that bothers me about the continued bail-our of banks is that it started with 730 million left when Obama took office. Now it has gone to over 2 trillion (almost three times that amount) since then and no one in this transparent White House, or anywhere else in the government, can tell us where it went!
I think Obama should receive a magic award for that feat!
I guess that the Nobel Peace Prize committee forgot that old accepted statement
"Talk is Cheap!" All they did was devalue their award!
They made the award a farce, but then they gave it to one!
In my opinion, President Obama well deserves the Nobel Peace Prize of this year. He deserves this honor based on his vision and enthusiasm, his passion and his attitude to the ideals of this nation, and his hard working efforts. He lights up the hope for the people in this world. He restores the honor of the United States of America. It is because of his efforts and his talents that the United States is able to regain positive views from the whole world. Facing an extremely difficult political and economic situation, under the enormous obstructions deliberated placed by his political adversaries, he has begun to work through all his campaign promises, putting them on the table for discussion, and has tried to initiate the best policies for the people of this country. He deserves to be supported. He is a big figure with a large heart and a beautiful vision, and has great talent and intelligence. He is very capable and is far better than those who yell loudly with high pitched voices to criticize him without any factual basis. He is the one who puts the country above himself, unlike his opponents who put their own ego above the nation's well being. His initiated policies will take time to see the results. However, within such short period time, the economy of the whole world has already ceased its downward spiral. The world economy is starting to see light. Why don't we work together toward one direction under the President's leadership to restore the glory and power of the United States?
"Why don't we work together toward one direction under the President's leadership to restore the glory and power of the United States?"
Because that is not Obama's view of America. He said himself that he "plans on fundementally changing America" into a country of his vision. So it is obvious that Obama believes America has always been a rotten loser of a country and there is no glory or power to restore. Obama has also stated he believes our constitution is fundementally flawed because it does not address "social justice".
"He is a big figure with a large heart and a beautiful vision, and has great talent and intelligence."
Really? I guess if you consider a country under his dictatorship to be a "beautiful vision" you are correct. Care to explain exactly what these "great talents" are other than he gives good teleprompter? Where is the proof of his intelligence? His school records would easily prove or disprove whether or not Obama is as intelligent as his supporters claim he is. Unfortunately Obama has had ALL of his acedemic records sealed. Why is that?
**Snicker** **Snort** **AHAHAHAHAHA!!** **Whooeeeeee**
What, jane, you were serious??
deserves this honor based on ...vision and enthusiasm, ...passion and ...attitude to the ideals of this nation, and ...hard working efforts
Whaddaya know...I deserve the award!!!!!
Jane, are there rainbows and butterflies in your world?
the award is for accomplishhments. just accomplishing a job is not enough, even if it is the presidency of the us. look at the others who won it. youre just a symbol of the indoctrination of the media and the democrats. think for yourself you pathetic excuse of an american!
I wanna get nominated! My parole officer says I basically mean well!
Jane, I've been glancing through these comments and much of what is on these pages is similar to what was on these same pages yesterday. For that reason I have not submitted a comment and until now, I have not replied to any of the other comments. But then I came across yours. I am happy for you that you can see the world through your rose colored glasses. I am happy that you see the world as right and just and prosperous and full of flowers and butterflies. I am happy that in your world no one is losing their homes to foreclosure and all of their kids are not hungry. I am happy for you because in your world the USA has not been degraded and made a laughing stock because one man's foreign policy suggests appeasment to the radicals who want to kill us. I am happy for you because you can go to bed at night and sleep the sleep of your false security. I am happy for you because your president is so much better than mine. My president is just as bad or perhaps worse that the last three years of the previous president. Stay where you are Jane. Don't wake up. Don't admit to reality. Be happy.
Gosh Jane, the meds are really working. I hear the withdrawal can be brutal. Good luck!
Jane...Thank you for posting what this country needs more of...hope. That's why the guys on these threads are so anti-Obama...Obama represents new hope out of a mess these snot faced loonies created with their bulging bellies and spending and tax policies of the last 8 years. Now, they want to erase history.
Not a single anti-Obama male on this thread has enough hair on his butt to do the job Obama is doing and they know it. That makes them all cowards with big mouths and not much brains. Men of honor recognize duty. A whole generation of 30 and 40 something male wusses in this country haven't a clue what real duty is. At every opportunity they run from it. These are the same hopeless wonders who want doom, gloom, war and blood running like oceans. Sick, sick dudes all.
ewent, you really need to chill out. You are sounding like one of those sick,sick dudes.
He should get it based on his vision and enthusiasm? Gee, why not find a local artist and give it to them? They have lots of "vision and enthusiasm". Wake up Jane and smell the reality. Maybe we should just turn the white house into a theatre, where we can all share our "visions" and pay off enough people to make it a reality. "Oprah, keep that cash flow coming in"!
Dr G....Why? So you can have one more person to agree with a misguided agenda? I always find it amusing when the truly mentally ill convolute rationality to suit their own level of insanity.
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black (no pun intended)!!
jeepmanjr....How about you learn a few lessons from the laws of human interaction...if you are actually human that is. Most people on this planet don't fly solo. Ted Bundy and others tried it and look where it got them. You only get maximum productivity from life if you can work with others. Which clearly you can't. Since your attitude is one of supremacist. Therefore, don't talk about what you don't know which is how to get along without every day being World War III.
Jane is in line to replace Leno on the late night TV circuit, and from her offering here, she will be MUCH funnier!
"ewent, you really need to chill out. You are sounding like one of those sick,sick dudes"
I got news for you...ewent is a woman (makes me want to consider gender reassignment surgery)"
I think he should say he is going to put a man on Mars...half the world will think we did. How do you buy the Nobel Prize? Oprah? Does Acorn have people on that committee too? This dog needs to wag its own tail.
It's understandable that a far left-wing organization like the Noble Prize Committee would give the award to a far left-wing guy, they always do. But based on his accomplishments to-date, I think an award from the Toastmasters Club would be more appropriate.
Far left? as in Henry Kissinger?? Obama is doing one main thing - shaking up the stale politics of the republicans and even some dems so that the real people, the blue collar workers can be heard.
Like some of the TIME magazine Person OF the Year awards - it does make the world sit up and take notice. And I hope it forces Obama to keep his promises to end the wars and take care of our country.
The Toastmasters have too much intgrity.
I am going to nominate myself for the prize next year. Didn't realize it was this easy to win.
Bob if you got as hope ,your in.
Bob, I assume you're warm and breathing and by doing so you have earned it far more than Barry.
...very nice. now either find me a job, buy my condo, or adopt me...
Jewel-Objectively speaking, please recall that the current economic woes are due to the past administration, not the current.
I agree he needs to focus on the things at hand and not the prize, but dont expect the disaster created during the last regime will be fixed anytime soon.
Jewel-Objectively speaking, please recall that the current economic woes are due to the past administration, not the current.
I agree he needs to focus on the things at hand and not the prize, but dont expect the disaster created during the last regime will be fixed anytime soon.
Our current economic woes as you call it are due to an ignorant and greedy Bill Clinton that signed away our jobs to overseas conglomerates! When are you people going to see the big picture? Oh and by the way, the joke is on you libs.
disagree rainman but i do respect the opinion. I do believe the so called "free market" and ability of large corporations to act as they wish is the reason for the economic downturn. mortages issued and approved to people who can barely afford shoes, by sellers whos only motivation is to sell them; banks who are not required to keep a responsible balance sheet; and individuals sucked into the false belief that they can afford and are entilted to anything a credit card company says thay can have. Eventaully the bill will come, unfortunately in this case our children will pay it.
The lack af jobs is in part due to the economy and in part due to overseas sales, but the recent job loss in the states is due to corporations going out of business here, not jobs available overseas.
Bush was in office for 8 years. The state of affairs is due to him most directly and not that of prior administrations. Why not blame Reagan?
jewel...first of all, survival of the fittest means you get to do it on your own. Expecting others to do what you can and should do for yourself is outright childishness. No human being on earth is ever without options if you have the brains to sit down and figure out what they are. Been there, done that. That's how sure of it I am.
...thank you so much for accusing me of being childish and brainless. if you knew me at all, you would realize what a mistake that is...
Jewel,
Don't take it seriously. Every time the liberals are faced with facts or discussions they don't like, they attack the person prompting them. You should take ewent's comments as a compliment. It shows that you have the intelligence to probe rather than believe all the information fed to you by the media.