This "trade imbalance" has been orchestrated by both parties over decades... no one party is to blame; corruption and greed by career politicians in BOTH are. All that has ever been needed is sound regulations and guidelines for businesses to operate under, concerning how much any given corp. can profit from moving to overseas business at third world wages and how much can be imported vs. exported. Simple.

We don't want to live at third world wages and conditions. If business is allowed to vacate the U.S., and produce at these levels, we can't compete. If business is allowed to vacate the U.S., we lose jobs. We still have to consume and buy. Businesses import foreign made crap, from overseas plants and from plants indigenous to these nations at HUGE profits; not profits from what the American economy is based on and would be "normal" profits. It's garbage that we export nearly as much as we import. It's garbage that this is the "new" global economy, and we have no choices.

Our economy has been sold out by both parties to the destruction of the middle class, and soon every bit of money will have been made off the middle class' backs that is possible. So now what? "Create" jobs? When we already can still produce what we consume, but don't?

Regulations and parameters... not a welfare state, and not wild-west, no holds barred capitalism. Can't any see that there are other choices, simple and workable ones, and needs to be?

Start by getting true representatives in government; not lawyers, career politicians. Then do away with the Illegal Federal Reserve. THEN we'll get somewhere.

sdpaulson. And his parting words:

"Oh, before I forget. I also brought about half-a-trillion in treasury bonds with me. Please buy them. please, please, please...

Don't ya love how this article makes it sound like "The Obama World Tour 2009":

His Asian journey will add four countries to the 16 he has already visited. He is traveling first to Japan, then to Singapore, China and South Korea. The eight-day trip will highlight a dramatically changing continent.

we can now call him THE BEGGAR IN CHIEF.

"One of my most important tasks is to continue to strengthen the relationship between the United States and Asia," Obama said.

Yeah, right.

The DEBTOR relationship with OUR NEW BOSSES.

US Debt under the Leftist Liberals: Still Growing and Going Strong.

Whats so tough about saying "I'm sorry" since thats all he has done since he has been in office. Seems easy to me. Course he will probably send them some more dough, though!

Excuse me, but doesn't he have daughting challenges at home that he keeps running away from?

Uh, I'd say Obama doesn't need to go to Asia to face daunting challenges; he's got plenty of those right here at home!

I am beginning to think that Michelle put her foot down and told President Obama that the only place he can chain smoke is on Air Force One.

That would explain his very frequent trips without any sort of visible purpose.

"Obama faces daunting challenges in Asia tour" what happened? His teleprompter broke?

"Here's a special note to all of those people that loved to bash Bush for the last 8 years.

How's it feel when the tables are turned? LOL"

I feel the same....sorry that I have to share my country with such fools

As soon as I get a new loan from China and accept my Nobel Peace Prize then I'll make a decision.

I've heard this "his decision will be soon" for how long now. Soon, is that a subjective word? How soon. At least send troops to protect the soldiers there now.

His "decision" will happen just as soon as he finds someone who will "advise" what he's already decided to do. Then when it all goes to hell, he'll have someone else to blame.

The DEBTOR relationship with OUR NEW BOSSES.

US Debt under the Leftist Liberals: Still Growing and Going Strong.

Madison - US Debt to foreign investors has been growing under every President since at least Reagan, and probably Johnson. Even in the 60s, when we last regularly enjoyed a favorable balance of trade, we had a negative balance of payments due to huge expenditures on foreign aid.

But the last time this nation enjoyed a favorable balance of trade was in 1975, under Gerald Ford. Since then we been importing more than we export, and at an every accelerated rate. There's no magic involved here, for every dollar in imports not balanced by a dollar of exports, you have to either sell something or borrow something.

So we've been spending down assets and living on credit for the last 30+ years, and not just under those "leftist liberals". Under Reagan our balance of trade deficit grew by nearly 500%, from 22,267,000,000 to $118,526,000,000. Under that bad o'l liberal, Clinton, it merely doubled, from $115,568,000,000 to $230,852,000,000.

All that has to be balanced somehow, and it has been, by foreign investment (that's people in Japan and China, buying up assets here) or by the selling of public or private debt (that's those same d*mn foreigners buying government and corporate bonds).

So if the words of U.S. Presidents, be they George W. Bush or Barrack Obama don't ring as loudly in the world today, remember the old adage: "Money talks. Bullsh*t walks."

Here's the link where I got the above numbers: http://www.bookrags.com/research/balance-of-trade-ebf-01/

Check it out.

Black Knight - What did George W. Bush do? Bomb them? No, he was do bing playing 'Where's the WMD in Iraq".

I've not objection with somebody finding fault with the policies of Obama or Clinton. But let's judge all our President's by the same measurements.

Last I heard, it was during Bush's administration that North Korea became a nuclear power.

dman-353357: Since we are keeping tab on who did what it was Ms. Allbright and Mr. Clinton who gave N. Korea the Uranium needed to make the Bomb. and allowed North Korea to pursue the peaceful nuclear develpment.

check your facts.

What's he going to warn them about his economic ignorance, his political ineptness, the fact that his word means nothing and he has never had a real job, they won't get to see his birth certificate or his GPA, he can't remember shi*, is lousy with history math and the truth, that he is a lying marxist and the worst most incompetent clown ever to hold the office and couldn't even get that right, wouldn't say the word terrorist(islamic)........this ought to fix their wagon.

Oh yeah! Go ahead and warn them, you didn't warn the USA.

All you FOX tongue waggers out there, don't go feeling sorry for them N. Koreans.

Well all I saw in the picture was about 20 heads of state seriously concerned about global economy and only one using it for a photo op.

... can guess which one?

TYS... I can hear the Jeopardy theme in my head...

where's your sense of humor?

oh....thank you Amighty "O",

Yes, a prosperous China is "good" for all. How about a prosperous U.S.? I wonder, if China is going to be signing a pact in Copenhagen next month. Ummm, no.

"Get the Point"...you liberal drones.

he must be in "muslim asia" !

"Appology For America's Existence" tour part 127

jmo

Well, when a totally spineless loser, like Oblahblah leaves office, and we actually get a real "Leader" that really cares about the American people. Then, my knee-jerked, hackneyed, swaggering, insulting, valueless, rantings, will cease! Please don't write things that someone thinks has value(since it is merely Bush bashing) he is gone, and "Wonder Boy", is f*cking up worse than Bush ever dreamed of. BTW, when will you mention that he is borrowing more than Bush ever did ? Oh yeah that's not a valued fact, because your master is doing it right? No , OBAMA, is totally responsible for the debt that is now way out of control, and here he is out to borrow even more! Cant blame Bush forever folks, you need to see your Messiahs short comings as well!

Obama thinks a prosperous China is good for all.....Too bad he doesnt feel the same about a prosperous US....Will Obama be giving money away and apologizing on this trip too??? Maybe he should be told that he can travel without doing that....

BTW Sherri2012, you don't think Oblahblahs promise that unemployment would never go over 8% is NOT important? How about the 3 to 4 million jobs I brought up? That is not part of the 25 posts then is it? You see Sherri we real Americans don't care for LYING spineless sacks of crap! and Yes I didn't care for Bush either, I'm not tied to 2 party crap, there are better choices, only those that think they are smart, continue to vote 2 party lines, I guess you all think that they can do the job, even though they have had control for over 200+ years, funny, they cant fix sh!t! How's that for FACTS!

"We welcome China's efforts to play a greater role on the world stage, a role in which their growing economy is joined by growing responsibility," Obama said.

That's a real peach of a statement from someone that the Chinese warned about his stupid financial policies. Even Communist China is balking at buying more of America's debt when our policies are being set by a group of economic and mental midgets.

Has anyone else wondered if the reason our country wont drill for our own oil and natural gas is because these idiots running America have used our resources for collateral to finance the New World Odor takeover of America? America has more oil and natural gas than all of the Arab Nations combined. Yet hear we sit still trapped by the importation of over priced crude.

And, speaking of responsibility, when will Oba-a-a-a-a-ma show some for the financial implosion of our nation and the job losses under his Nation destroying financial policy. Or, how about just being responsible enough to uphold the Constitution as he swore to do? It's a requirement of the job. Kissing our enemies and economic competitors under their tail feathers is not. And when do you suppose he intends to bring those manufacturing jobs back from overseas as he promised during his campaign. Just another heap of Obamanure.

I don't know how much more Chinese success we can stand. Virtually all of my running shoes are Chinese. I always seek ones made any where but China but they are few and far between (New Balances make my feet stink). Now it seems tires may have followed. I've probably bought 15 sets of B.F. Goodrich Radial T/A's over the years. On my newest set I can't find a label that says where they're made anywhere on the tire. I looked in my shed at an old one and boom there's the label,on the new one in the same spot:nothing. I'm not sure if they're made in China but I'm betting they didn't come from the US of A.

Tired of BS -

You might have valid points to make, but your vulgar language and insulting style get in the way.

When posts are loaded with personal insults and inflammatory attacks, I tend to take whatever substance they might have with a grain of salt.

If I even read them at all.

Don't take it personally, you have a lot of company here.

Anita -

Where's your sense of humor?

Yeah, I do laugh at some of the things people say here. Until I reflect that they get to vote, and that's a sobering thought.

China not a threat? Power not a zero-sum game?

Has our president never heard of the First Law of Thermodynamics? There is a fixed amount of petroleum in the world and we are competing with China for what is left of it. China is a threat, and power is a zero-sum game. American business transformed dirt farmer China into a petrol burning machine. We saw the result of globalized trade last summer: $140/bbl crude oil.

Our president is talking about free-trade and climate change, but free-trade is climate change.

...

Sad to say, but unions have so disenfranchised themselves with America, we don't want to buy anything from them anymore. After 5 NEW gms in the past 14 years, never again.

"Obama called himself "America's first Pacific president.""

Next it will be..........oh shucks, you can fill in the blank.

Obama: Prosperous China good for all

That was lead-in to this article, and it's true.

They sell us cheap products, and we pay them with money that they use to buy our debt that will soon be worthless. Nice deal all around. The ultimate question is "Who get's stuck with the $Dollars when they become worthless - kind of like musical chairs.

Has anybody seen a chart on what's happening to the value of the $Dollar recently?

OK so if we do away with all manufacturing and let the Chinese take over we will benefit? If we bankrupt the US farmers so we will have to buy food from other countries, we benefit?

This has to be the dumbest SOB president ever ...

Who he hell would be so stupid as to support his screwed up concepts. He is a moron.

I respect the office, not the man

[quote]Get The Point

GOP whining is getting old. WHAAAAAAAAAAAAA. LMAO![/quote]

Your a moron. I guess you already knew that. No one ever said democrats were bright.

Obama is the worst president in U.S. history.

Obama is the only president to ever declare we needed a new declaration of independence.

Obama doesn't even know what the declaration of independence is, or what it stands for.

2012 can't come soon enough so we can get this moron out of the white house.

Obama said it correctly

He said his is Asia's President

He sure as hell is not America's President

sdpaulson: your comment is disrespectful, and it sounds more like how you might do it if you were there!!!

Get The Point:

GOP whining is getting old. WHAAAAAAAAAAAAA. LMAO!

And you are proud of what part of this waste-of-presidency?

Prosperous China good for all? They and corperations around this counrty have pretty much ruined our own American Economy for the last three decades!

dale,

I'm pretty sure sdpaulson meant it that way. Perhaps you were unaware that respect is something that is earned.

Fred G of N.C.

It is perfectly OK to buy Chinese products as they are neither rubbish or junks. Most Chinese products are of good quality and provide consumers with value for money. For those who advocating buying USA, there is hardly any consumer products made in USA. because it is more economical sense to make it overseas. We can blame our unions for their greedy wage demand which makes production here uneconomical. Also our corporations are also responsible for current predicament.

What do you suggest Henrich?

Henrich von Dorf

Right on point.

Since we are keeping tab on who did what it was Ms. Allbright and Mr. Clinton who gave N. Korea the Uranium needed to make the Bomb.

Thomas Boyce - Since we are citing facts, I challenge yours. I can find no mention of any such gift of uranium. There was the 1994 Agreed Framework agreement between the two countries, which would required North Korea to replace two reactors usable for the enrichment of uranium with Light Water Reactors. This agreement, which was never a treaty ratified by congress, persisted in troubled fashion until 2004, when North Korea announced it would no longer comply with it and that it was resuming its own nuclear research.

So, show me your source. Where's the gifted uranium, suitable for bombs?

Or is your post, just another facts optional message from the right.

Heinrich von Dorf - quality Chinese products????? Lead paint on toys other chemicals laced in products sent to us. Where have you been lately?

"We welcome China's efforts to play a greater role on the world stage, a role in which their growing economy is joined by growing responsibility," Obama said.

1. China's greater role has helped destroy American business and created huge job losses.

2. "Growing responsibility?" Boy is that vague. Is that a reference to all the substandard products they have been flooding the market with? OR a responsibility to take over the world, with China as the new leader?

If you read this article carefully, either there are many mis-quotes or the speech is lawyer double-speak. I'm not seeing where our President has any business experience or is actively doing what is necessary to protect America. Mr President, America should come first in your priorities, not everyone else!

Obama is nothing more than the PIMP IN CHIEF. His conduct is similar to a PIMP, and what he is doing is selling out our Country, its morals, and its beliefs, all so he can pose on the World stage as some sort of "great leader"> He and his minions are totally unfit to lead this Country, and with each passing day, those who were stupid enough to actually believe what he "PROMISED" during his campaign, are eating crow and cannot be happy in their "choice"> I will admit that the "choice" for president in last election was miserable at best. To get better people in elective office, its time America wakes up and gets off their dead Ass and get involved. If not we/you will only see the same thing for years to come, and even this great Country cannot survive such mal-feasance of duty.

willowbrook "If you read this article carefully, either there are many mis-quotes or the speech is lawyer double-speak."

I'll give you a clue - He's a lawyer.

dman-353357 "What business experience did George W. Bush have? He failed at every enterprise in life until he became President. ...and he was a failure at that too."

I looked up Jimmy Carter's famous "Misery Index" on Wikipedia, which is the combined total of the Unemployment + Inflation Rates. It appears that Bush II had the best record in the last 40 years - even better than Clinton. Also, he kept interest rates about 1.5% lower than Clinton.

Keep in mind that Congress controls all government spending, and it was controlled by Democrats for years leading up to the financial crisis, and Chris Dodd and Barney Frank were the chairmen of the Senate and House Banking Committees that were responsible for overseeing the banks and Wall Street.

When Inflation gets added to Obama's high Unemployment figures in a few years, I suspect that his "Misery Index" will rival that of Jimmy Carter, where the combined Inflation and Unemployment Rates got as high as 21.98%.

"It was the fifth major foreign address of Obama's 10-month presidency, continuing the sharp break with the unilateral approach that marked international relations under the Bush administration.">>>>>>>And all administrations in the past. Now Obama is single-handedly tossing our soverignity to the wind and handing the keys to our country to all the Muslims and Asians he can pander to. We will reap the disaster he is sowing.

Keep in mind that Congress controls all government spending, and it was controlled by Democrats for years leading up to the financial crisis, and Chris Dodd and Barney Frank were the chairmen of the Senate and House Banking Committees that were responsible for overseeing the banks and Wall Street.

Roy - Say what?!

I'm keeping in mind that the Republicans took control of both houses of congress in 1994 and maintained that control until the 2006 off-year elections, so it is unclear to me what years you are referencing.

Barney Frank is the Chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, which is perhaps the "House Banking Committee" to which you refer.

Chris Dodd is the Chairman of the Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs.

Both of these individuals assumed their posts in January 2007, when the housing and financial bubbles were well developed. They were preceded by Michael Oxley and Richard Shelby respectively, both Republicans.

As to the "misery index", make of it what you want. While I do not blame George W. Bush exclusively for the economic and financial hole this country has fallen into, I will note that when he assumed office we had a balanced budget and the economy was still in an up cycle. In eight years, he transformed all of this, presiding over two recessions, one of which is ongoing, and turning budget surpluses into then record deficits.

Thanks for another facts-optional posting from the right wing.

Look at it this way, "the longer obama is out of Washington the safer we are."

NAFTA is the worst thing that ever happened to our Economy and Odumbo thinks we should have another trade pact? There won't be ANY jobs left at all in this country if a Pacific Rim Trade Pact is signed!!!

Free trade, New world Order, International banking cartels; It does not matter who you elect, the big boys control the situation; We need new free trade like the Titanic needed more water, we are sinking and no one we elect gives a damn.

Being divided along partylines has gotten us into this Economic mess! If the taxpayers of this country would throw away the idea that they belong to one party and the other is always wrong, we would not have the mess we have now because we would have made sure that it was the taxpayers reaping the benefits instead of a bunch of crooks in DC passing bills that benefit no one but themselves and are throwing us into poverty. If you really think they represent anyone but themselves then you need to sit back and take a real look at some of the bills they have passed and the long range effects they have on your paycheck.

f you want to "stimulate" the economy, how about getting out of my pocket and putting in plae a massive tax cut.  That would be the best way.  Gov't stimulus has never worked and never will.

Under Obama and the dems, we will see out national debt, not the deficit, double in the next ten years.  It took us 200 years to get here and it took the dems only 10 years to double that.  I hope all you who voted for the dems and bama are proud of yourselves.

"Americans have to get beyond this idea that free trade with Asia destroys their jobs. Both sides can benefit,"

Bill Clinton had his North American Free Trade Agteement (NAFTA), which is credited with transfering jobs to Mexico and Canada. Now Obama will have HIS trade agreement to transfer what's left to Asian countries.

I wonder when he starts "creating or saving" jobs for Americans?

Of course, I suspect it's just another case of nice sounding rhetoric, with no action behind it. Did anybody tell him it's time to stop campaigning and start governing?

"News that the U.S. would participate in the Trans-Pacific Partnership — joining Chile, New Zealand, Singapore and Brunei — was announced in Tokyo and Singapore, drawing applause at the annual Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum."

More countries to add to America's Social Change redistribution of wealth.

Next, Secretaries of State and Treasury's visits to these countries to "iron out" the details.

Clinton balanced a budget? Can you state which year he was president that our National DEBT didn't go up?

Michael, good question. I can't. Even in the best years of the 90s, the national debt continue to rise, increasing by 100 to 200 billion dollars per year. The years since, make these numbers appear better than they were.

"Americans have to get beyond this idea that free trade with Asia destroys their jobs. Both sides can benefit," he said.

Not only does free trade with Asia destroy American jobs, it destroys the environment, and is the main reason for high fuel prices.  As the economy begins its recovery, my prediction is $7 per gallon for gasoline in the U.S by next summer.

"Obama's move reinforced calls for expanding free trade rather than resorting to protectionist measures to cope with the recession. He pushed for progress on talks to liberalize world trade."

What a fantastic ****-up. History will look back on this on analysis as to why America fell from superpowerdom.

Obama is 10 times more a liability than GWB was.

wow,  thats all the republicans did is sign free trade agreements( china, nafta, central america, columbia, blah, blah blah and now you are all over obama.     pick your battles are you just look like fools.

Skipper99 -

Obama is nothing more than the PIMP IN CHIEF

Didn't you mean PIMPIN' THIEF? Or is it PIMPIN' CHIEF? Or maybe PIMP 'N CHIEF?

His program of Hope and Change is now Rope and Chains.

As for him being the "America's first Pacific President" he simply refuses to accept any fact of being an America without some additional "qualifiers" such as africa, pacific, minority, etc. Here he is trying to "fit in" with the rest of the kids on the playground. Trying to fit in is an outward admission of inferiority - not quite up to the caliber of your fellow palymates.

More "free trade?"

All that does is impoverish the masses, at the expense of the "elite" few.

Oh, that's right, President Obama's Secretary of the Treasury is an ex-Government Sachs, I mean, Goldman Sachs man.

I am losing all hope.

Amazing how the same people who want unregulated capitalism are the same ones against free trade. They go hand in hand.

Once again, the right wing nut-jobs, collapse every comment that they disagree with. To scared to face opposing view points. Chickens!!!!

Speaking of jobs, wheres those 3 to 4 million jobs Oblahblah?

They're in India, China, assorted Third World countries all across the globe. He never said he's save American jobs.

What I don't get is how, with NAFTA sending so many American jobs to Canada or Mexico, how anyone can believe that a similar deal with Asia will boost America's economy.

It will again send American jobs overseas, forcing Americans out of work and onto unemployment or welfare, and they'll be unable to buy these wonderfully cheap products (and by cheap I mean inexpensive and shoddily made.) Every house made with Chinese drywall! Every child supplied with chemical-laced toys! Brilliant idea.

While goods made in the US may be more expensive than those made anywhere else (thanks to unions, corporate greed, and all around mismanagement) we at least have the reassurance that our products are made to rigid safety standards and that we produce less in emissions than China or India or even Japan. Producing things here is safer and cleaner, admit it or not. Outsourcing manufacturing to Asian countries will further destabilize our economy, put more of us out of work, and contribute millions of tons of pollutants to our environment.

But Obama says it's a good idea, so the Kool-Aid stand is open again and fools just drink it up.

Doesn't this kinda NOT help us unless we start manufacturing again, and selling our goods?

I don't know how Obama can do so well with foreign relations, and so poorly on international commerce.

Get Real...

Excuse me, but doesn't he have daughting challenges at home that he keeps running away from?

If you're going to try to be witty you should at least learn to spell first.

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I just wanted to thank you for contributing something worthwhile.

dman:

25...count 'em, 25...posts it took until someone (you) posted something intelligent, informative and fact-based, with a link to your source to boot.

Most of what went before was nothing more than knee-jerk, hackneyed, swaggering, insulting and completely valueless ranting and rhetoric.

Collapsed why? You friggin' cowards who can't deal with reason.

I looked up Jimmy Carter's famous "Misery Index" on Wikipedia,

Wikipedia and Youtube The right's two main sources for "reliable" information after Fox, Glenn, Sean and Rush.

The tables have turned, and that makes you sooooo angry huh? Before the election, these posts were all about Obama, he could have eaten a baby on TV and still gotten elected. I don't know how many of my posts at that time were collapsed or deleted because I didn't agree. Now people have finally woken up to the fact that in their hypocritical liberal minds, Obama's inexperience wasn't an issue though you made SUCH a big deal of it with Palin. Sorry but Palin ran a state that is bigger than Texas and California combined and did a pretty darn good job. She's not a Harvard educated lawyer, but that obviously that doesn't make you a leader. It's only because Obama can talk like a tent revival minister to hynotize you sheep that he got elected. Oh yeah, and all the union money and empty promises.

Obama is 10 times more a liability than GWB was.

Dewintre - A drug addled 10-year old could take charge in the Oval Office and not be as much of a liability as George W. Bush.

Michael-633180

Clinton balanced a budget? Can you state which year he was president that our National DEBT didn't go up?

His whole second term.

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Hey Tired of the BS,

No kidding, I was dating a perfectly good woman until recently...she was way to the left and had this delusion that he (Obummer) was doing a good job, no way that was going to last. Never thought I'd see the day when I had to choose between politics and really good, well you know what I mean. Very well educated too, masters degree, going for her doctorate...it just goes to show you no matter how smart someone is, they can still have whacked ideas.

You're blaming a liberal because you couldn't get laid? Now that's a Republican excuse if I ever heard one!

As if your value system doesn't stoop low enough to not give a damn for a few hours...

C'mon micro, you oughta know by now that everything is the left's fault.

To Roy Wilson, I know he is a lawyer, but I gave him the benefit of the doubt since I am sure he has a speech-writing team. Many of his speeches lately have been pretty much a waste of air. They just don't say anything useful or do anything to help America.

dman wrote: People are bashing Obama for trying to work with the Chinese. But he has no choice. China is rapidly emerging as an economic superpower; it didn't happen overnight. If you're going to blame Obama, you'd best blame Bush, and Clinton, and Bush and Reagan and pretty much every body back to Nixon.

He does have choice, he is not using it.

We enabled China to become an economic power thru the inequitable (to America) trade deals that were created before Obama became President. Unfortunately, Obama has NO business experience and anyone who can show him the reality of what impact these trade deals have done to business in the United States. He just continues to think that we can make up for the loss in Product-producing jobs with service industry jobs. It just will not work. We need product-producing jobs to support the service industry. Oh and the trade deals started with Clinton. And every since then, we have watched job after job leave the US for China/Asia, and there was no way we could compete. Creating a trade situation where there is NO POSSIBILITY of competition is wrong! The bottom line is America lost the jobs and cannot get them back while we continue to receive more and more products that are substandard or actually dangerous to the consumer and we can't do anything about it except throw them away since it costs more than the product is worth to return it to Asia. I could go on, but since this thread it already collapsed, most will not benefit from the information.

Clinton balanced a budget? Can you state which year he was president that our National DEBT didn't go up?

His whole second term.

Not true, Stand-up. I looked up the year-by-year figures for the national debt and it continued to go up throughout the Clinton presidency. I still thing the government back then, meaning Congress and the President did a much better job at showing fiscal restraint and responsibility. But obiously some dollar items were excluded from the "balanced budgets" of the Clinton era.

maybe you should learn how to spell or type coherent sentences. And please don't forget who has been running congress since 2006.

When did the dems get majority? Was it 2006? People forget that bit of info. :)

Afro my man. If your boy was doing so great you libs wouldn't have to keep saying "Bush did, Bush did." You'd just quote facts and stats to show what a great job he's doing.

But 'cha can't...

Cause he sucks.

Colonel, you are exactly correct. If obama was so good, the libs would be here talking about all his wonderful accomplishments. Yet they are here trying to defend their messiah who has shown himself to be incompetent.

jackson. That's it dude.

All I get is from these people is "Bush this" and "Cheney that."

I never hear real accomplishments from them. Why? Because there are none.

Also, I need to ask Mr. Afro what a "though of the neigborhood" is.

And what's a "tacktic?"

Is that anything like a "tic-tac?"

AfroLove

You are the prime example of the Obama supporters who thought Sarah Palin was his running mate last year. You have no basis for your opinion other than some catch phrases you learned down at Pic-Pac Liquor sipping Olde English with your homies.

I didn't know that Bush and CHeney (as representatives of the US) where on their way to CHINA?

afroboy- after trying to understand your letter, i assume your from africa which might explain your ineptness with the english spelling and sentence construction. since these concepts might overwhelm you, i'll talk about your blasting pres. bush. he has delivered more financial aid to africa to combat aids...FACT! if your a citizen of the u.s. i fear for our countries future. you are a poster child for birth control.

If you are a Idi0t and though of your neigborhood and the neigborhood is tierd of your stupidity the best tacktic is to ignor you. Thats what exactly happened.

Thanks, Afro, for starting my day with a good laugh...

Does anyone speak proper English anymore?

Yeah, how far did you get in school? "da turd grate"? Another uneducated "blind follower"

roscoe: Would you like to come down here to Texas where I live and talk to some of these "real smart rednecks"? You might change your mind about who is uneducated and who are the blind followers.

Well Verno old fella, how do you know I'm not in Texas? And if you are refering to the "dumb white trash", there are just as many of those as there are of what you think I was refering to.

OK Rosco - once your done in Texas, just come over and visit us in Alabama. We can just go beheind the tool shed and "talk" about it.

Say what?

Say what?

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AFROLOVE

Why you stupidos blame Obama for your misery???? George No Brainer Bush and Dick Devil Cheny has raped America for the past 8 years. Where were you the past 8 years. Bush and cheny waged war against the whole world and the world is now ignoring America. Look Chinas and African relationship now how fast it is growing. China is Super Power now. Obama is trying to earn American respect back and that is how you start relationship.

If you are a Idi0t and though of your neigborhood and the neigborhood is tierd of your stupidity the best tacktic is to ignor you. Thats what exactly happened.

Tanx Mr Obama for your effort to resume relationship with the world and As African I wish you a goodluck and Im sure you will earn back the respect of this country.[/quote]

My god your an idiot. China is not a super power, you don't have a clue what it takes to become a super power. Now go to bed little kid.

Actually I once posted a comment on one of China's English Studying forums before G W Bush was relected, in that comment I said I wish G W Bush could be reelceted forever. Because his policy(actually I don't think G W Bush was to be blamed much, my own judgement is that Chenny should be held responsible) would surely drag USA down to hell. But I have to tell you that even at that time, i didn't see USA can get down from the top so quickly, it really frightens me.

Yeah, the only thing Bush had accomplished by this time in office was getting 3000+ Americans killed on our own soil. See, it can go both ways. All presidents have leftovers from the previous administrations to deal with. Anyone expecting big change in 10 months is an idiot. Things take time.

Obama is doing exactly what the majority of American's want (and don't qoute rasmussen polls, try a reputable non-partisan poll).