The House Homeland Security Committee chairman said Thursday Congress must question those involved in the White House security breach, saying the U.S. is fortunate it did not turn into "a night of horror."
Panel: Party could have been 'night of horror'
Seeded on Thu Dec 3, 2009 11:46 AM EST (msnbc.com)


Contempt of Congress? That's a laugh. Karl Rove didn't appear, and look at what happened to him?
Nothing.
As he is a political authority figure, he has set the tone that subpeoenas from Congress are laughable.
I know Desiree Rogers is a family friend, but she did not successfully do her job as the White House Social Secretary, and I am afraid she too should be suspended, just as the Secret Service Officers are.
I am just appalled every time I see the picture Mrs. Salahi took with the Vice President, as she could have easily stuck something sharp into his chest, without anyone noticing. Those who allowed this couple into the White House, and the person in charge of seeing that only those with invitations were at the event (Ms. Rogers), should all find themselves unemployed!
On another note, did anyone here about Mrs. Salahi claiming to be a former Redskin Cheerleader, and showing up for the reunion, only to be found out when she didn't know any of the cheers?
There is more to this couple than meets the eye, and I still suspect they were paid to do what they did!
Black Knight, the "Gates staff"? Wow! Are you telling me that Bill Gates provided the security that night, or that Microsoft employees were responsible for securing the President that night? Hey, a couple of big burly programmers sounds pretty scary to me, but obviously they were no match for the Salahi tag team couple!
Well that explains it all. Thanks for the info!
And how is this the presidents faught? Was he at that front gate taking the tickets for the event? thats what i thought.
....but congress is laughable.
It's called "smoke and mirrors".......something else to distract the public away from our national debt, health care, the AIG criminals, the wars and other news they would prefer not to be aired.
Do we really think the US Secret Service is that inept? After all these years? I mean Kennedy driving in an open vehicle is one thing, but a State dinner in side the White house!!! Please............
this is the transformed white house.........time to answer questions about armature hour in the white house and the guy with change is batting 100% with all other administrations.........no answers......obama is a used car salesman as per his campaign promises compared to his skills/actions ......he is proving to be a weak talker like carter.
1st, these idiots will show up anywhere there's a camera, they're just playing the media. 2nd, why isn't the white house sec in charge of this not being questioned? cover up? 3rd,
BOYCOTT REAL HOUSE WIVES AND THEIR SPONSORS!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope these people are happy. I understand secret service should have paid more attention but because of these two idiots, people have been put on administrative leave. And what would have possessed someone to do something like that in these times. I hope charges are brought against them for crashing a party and hope that next time they feel to do something this ignorant they really think twice.
Barrack Hussein Obama bowed to Arab royalty. This may not only have been the act of obeisance stemming from respect but also an official introduction...the new top dog has arrived! BHO has continued the work towards irradication of muslim extremists (but still muslims). Well, he was paid a visit at the white house by (an Arabian sounding?)someone who walked right through the front door and BHO was allowed to live (security breach?)...(you might be the new top dog but you are still vulnerable!) The now infamous people then taunt the U.S. government...(make us talk!) So their rights as American citizens must now be infringed upon for their hiney's to be kicked if they were just acting stupid. Will the next owners of America please take over!
Forget congressional hearings / investigations / talks on this.
Get back to work on getting work for Americans.
"And how is this the presidents faught" It wasn't the president's 'faught'; it was the 'faught' of his inept Social Secretary/long time family friend. They're protecting her but have no problem suspending members of the Secret Service. What a biased, prejudiced group of idiots that are running this country (right into the ground!)
This country was "run into the ground" a while back.
The Obama admin. is merely filling the hole!
IF the White House staff were of normal intelligence and work ethic, THEY would have been at the gate and not let an "uninvited guests" in. This is just another example of the LACK OF LEADERSHIP AT THE TOP.
Let me make this perfectly clear, the White House in inhabited by INCOMPETANCE AT ALL LEVELS.
obama is not at risk, AMERICA IS AT RISK; only things of VALUE can be at risk!
for the ''AMERICANS'' that do not see this being a ''big deal'', what if these guys had been terrorist with a poison gas or powder and they killed the president, that will show how weak this countrys security is, Is this the type message we want to send to other countries in the world, to show how easy it would be to attack this country? If it is that easy to kill our country's leader the rest of the world will see the country as weak. just a thought. .
The laws they pass and the statements they make would be even more laughable, if they werent so damn stupid.
It's a coverup for the Secret Service.
Obama is the one in charge of directing the SS to cover State Dinners, parties, etc. The staff who oversees the SS during his administration, has rid themselves of many of the usual Protocol for Protection for a President. Desiree Rogers fired a person with expertise in this area, who used to have a organized list of what the steps are for protection. This person was very, very thorough, knew the ins and outs of scanning for people like these 2 imposters.
I see Desiree Rogers as a Narcissist, also. She wants the Power and the Limelight.
The O Administration doesn't realize the gravity of anything that they do in all areas of running the country and a simple party. How many celebs walked in the door? How many Terrorists walked out the door after the party?
Obama most likely rather enjoyed the scheme.
Have we nothing better to do with our time? Let the wheels of the secret service turn and do their job to fix the hole in their security. I don't live my life with "what ifs." What if someone of importance is hurt, stabbed, kissed, hugged, nudged, insulted, congratulated, poisoned, helped . . . . Give it a rest. The process needs corrected, so correct it. Congressional hearings on it seem to be smoke and mirrors instead of dealing with real issues in this country like unemployment, the budget, troop deployments, the working poor, health insurance, (you can just keeping adding to the list.) Giving this kind of celebrity to a pair of party crashers insults the real people in the real world. I'd much rather give my support and attention to the lowliest enlisted person working from a foxhole in a place far away from home. That person deserves celebrity because of his/her courage and determination, not because he/she slipped into a party, got a picture taken and ate a lavish meal at the White House.
It's fault.
"Sarcasticus1
Barrack Hussein Obama bowed to Arab royalty."
Your hero the, Shrub, was smooching and holding hands with them as they were walking through the garden. What is your point?
OMG. What if the monies paid out in the "bail-out" were paid back by institutions that are now able to repay? YDS the bail-out might be working(why I even heard that a bank was going to repay $45 billion-good grief)
LMMFAO!!!! Truthseeker, you and other like you keep trying to make this an issue about Obama and how our safety is at risk because of something like this. You guys have been slinging this BS since last year's election and it's still not working! America is not at risk because Obama is in office my friend. So quit trying to stuff that garbage down people's throats.
Louie Lou: It is about the ethics of the entourage that accompanied him into the WH. For years the SS responsibility was to insure security at the gates; probably because someone in the past did not want a uniformed officer there. The validation of the guests was up to the WH staff not the SS. In addition, if the Obama entourage were not so intend on spending every last dollar that we have, the dinner would have been in keeping with precedence not a celebrity filled excessive bash. And this group of incompetants self important buffoons dares to blast private business for its excessive spending on business functions.
No, Louie, "our" safety is not at risk, but Obama's sure is if anybody can walk off the street into the white house. Or is that garbage too?
DECLINED?!?! Declined to appear? WTF?! This is NOT the High School Sock Hop where one declines to attend. This is the freakin CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. You dont decline a request from Congress. These people should be arrested and jailed! This is an outrageous breach of security!
Spidey, his (Truthseeker) beef wasn't about Obama's safety.
PC, see the original post.
Here we go again! Isn't the Obama administration acting stupidly accusing Secret Service agents when Desiree Rogers wasn't at her position? That is supposedly these clowns were processed at. I would bet you that she wasn't there on purpose.
well, i think it's just a publicity stunt, all the way around. i mean really people. the president is too freaking stupid to know who is, isn't on a guest list? i never even heard of the idiots before it happend, thats gotta be pretty freakin popular...nobodys...crashing a WH party...umm no
SS don't let anyone in without clearance, and a name on the guest list, friend of who flippin' cares? no way...not getting in. even if you have the "special RSVP invite", your name isn't on the list, you are not getting in. thosr to baffoons had niether. so, think about that a sec. even a friend of a friend isn't gonna crash that party if the name isn't on the list. so, puddle all that around a bit, while our so-called president muddles in the oooo lookie here what could have happend to me bs story. well, most of you fell for it...lol, now maybe time to smell the coffee, instead of swiggin' on the cool aide once!
undesireable was too busy sitting and hobnobbing with guests to notice. Desiree, your job is to STAND AND COORDINATE, NOT SIT AND BS. I understand why you didn't, you sure didn't want to be seen as "the help." I would say a brown nosing suck up but why bother.
If I were SS, good luck getting past me on the next go round. I wouldn't care what any Chicago thug wanted, no admittance. PERIOD.
Isn't it just AWESOME that nowadays you can be given the 5th degree for going to a party and shaking the presidents hand?
Louie #1.27 - The truth is that the prior lady in the social office said that when she brought this up, she was told by the new administration they didn't need to do that anymore (i.e., having someone from the social office standing there). What do you expect to get when you have their family friends from Chicago running things in the White House. Where did Desiree Brown work before? I would guess either McDonald's or ACORN.
This is not the first time this has happened and if it weren't for it being oh mighty Obambo it would not have gotten any publicity as the other incidents did not.
1.10 deleted, George Orwell-838902 with a 'WHY IS THIS NEWS AND NOT CLIMATEGATE' comment. At least partially because you're commenting on it. Quit derailing. You're suspended for a week for violating #4 of the Code of Honor. Start a Climategate group or something.
1.5 deleted, Wanda Murline doing the same thing. You're suspended for a day for violating #4 of the Code of Honor.
newsvine.com/climategate, people. What you're doing is equivalent to yelling at the front page of the paper because the article you want to read is on A7.
1.18 deleted, kennymccormick regretting that the POTUS and VPOTUS weren't killed. What the eff. Banned, reported to authorities. Don't do that, folks.
3 deleted, foofus joking about Lincoln's assassination. Cut it out.
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This has not happened before because the people did their jobs. They fired the woman that has done this for years. If you did your job instead of attending the party then it wouldnt happen. They think that HE is so loved that no one would think of harming him, they are a joke and inept at everything that they do. They do not know the meaning of the word Protocol. This waht happens when you hire all your friends and they dont know their butt from a hole in the ground.
I am glad we finally have an instant that Dumbo can not blame on Bush, this could be a first!
I'm sorry, but the words "Thank you, Captain Obvious" are the only things going through my mind after reading that.
How about some FACTS for you people:
1. The President Does Not control the Secret Service. While entertaining suggestions and requests, the Secret Service will ignore any President if s/he is endangering their own life
2. In all circumstances, the Secret Service controls access to the White House grounds
3. No One should have been allowed in without a) an invitation with proper ID or b) named on the finalized guest list with proper ID
4. The Salahis should be subpoenaed and forced to appear before congress
5. Since the Salahis claim they thought they had proper access, the person to whom they were electronically conversing, Michele Jones, should be subpoenaed to appear
6. Whether or not White House social secretary Desiree Rogers is subpoenaed is inconsequential. Having someone from the social office at each entrance or not, No Invitation, No Name on the List, No Entrance
7. It is not Obama that is suspending the uniformed officers of the Secret Service, it is the director of the Secret Service
8. Obama should ask White House social secretary Desiree Rogers to voluntarily attend the hearings and answer the questions pertaining to the investigation
9. People need to learn and understand numbers 1, 2, and 3 above.
10. Information on numbers 1, 2, and 3 provided by my retired Secret Service friends
I love how the President says the "system just didn't work."
For him. For all other presidents, it has worked just dandy.
So, it's called he surrounded himself with incompetents. Let's start by putting the blame where it belongs, Mr. President--with yourself.
He worked for the President. These criminals need to go to jail.
The Secret Service reviewed its protocol, the protocol was tightened up and this will not happen again. To keep wasting time on this political grandstanding by Peter King for his rabid right-wing constituents is a waste of time and taxpayer money. Leave these people alone. They are humiliated enough, and the Secret Service agents have been put on admin leave. Enough said. Let's move on to real problems.
MSNBC:
Tyler: Why the collapsed comment #1.21 and no restoration. I am very disappointed that different views are not appreciated on this board.
I have truly lost faith in real discussion on this board. Diversity and debating. Chelsea Clinton was on your discussion board for those to "roast": as far as her ugliness. That was terrible, and acceptable?.
Are Liberal comments the only ones allowed?. If so, I will stop reading your articles on my Home Page.
Thank you.
bsfranken:
Bill Gates doesn't "operate" that way.
Coulda, woulda, whatever! It didn't! I still say though, hold the secret service's feet to the fire in future and prosecute the crashers. Not such a difficult solution. That said, I am very glad they weren't a different sort of people! Peace.
ScubaGolfJim,
I appreciate your comments, and wish more people would pay attention to them. However, I have planned a number of big and small events, although none as big as a White House Dinner. The one thing an event planner always remembers is that you do not get comfortable, until all those invited are comfortable, and that includes making sure that everyone who is supposed to be at the event gets there safely, and helping to keep out those that do not belong. It is because of this that I believe Desiree Rogers dropped the ball here, and that she should quietly step down from her post.
She should also voluntarily appear before Congress and answer any and all questions that are posed to her. Even though the President always has additional security around him, VP Biden obviously did not have enough security or perhaps it was enough common sence to not allow anyone save his wife or a head of state, to put their hands on him. This could have ended very badly, and I think that the Secret Service are not the only one's who need to step aside here.
bsbfankaren
I agree. The Social Secretary should complete her job before she decides to "play." Maybe she mistakenly thought she had handled the final details. Either way, I think she should answer any questions pertaining to the issue.
However, after seeing the cons in the Congress asking questions today in the same way as many of the uninformed here are "screaming," I would understand a reluctance. The best bet? Go and prove them wrong. Otherwise, she should show herself the door.
Agreed, ScubaGolfJim. Thank you!
Kane497
It's fault.
Yea thats what i was thinking too, its fault?!
This transcends politics. It is very possible we could have lost our President.
Republican, Democrat or other...does not matter. People need to testify so that we as Americans can be assured that this will not happen again.
If something were to happen to President Obama, it's not a matter of the Democratic party suffering; it's all of us.
It's shocking that this happened.
When it's easier to sneak into the White House for dinner than to sneak into a movie theatre with no ticket, then that's an issue! (Not that I would sneak into a movie theatre with no ticket, cause there aren't any movies worth seeing anymore...but I digress...)
eli,
If something happened to President Obama. Joe Biden would be President and Pelosi would move up the ladder. That reason alone is why Obama should be kept safe. Oh boy, after re-reading that, we're in trouble no matter what.
Uh, Black Knight. There is nothing in any of those emails that says that Michele Jones "had them put on the approved list". I read them twice, and it just is not there. In fact, the most incriminating thing about those emails, is that often the Salahi's don't even sound like they are responding to what is being said, as if they are in some sort of la la land...or perhaps the responses from Michele Jones are somehow made up, or perhaps parts are redacted. We don't know, and won't know until someone releases the email correspondance from Ms. Jones' end.
Just because they say they were on the "approved list" don't make it so, especially since the Secret Service agents in question apparently admitted that they weren't, but were admitted anyway.
I know you don't like this President or those you describe as "liberals" in general, but not even you can make up facts that do not exist!
How would Pelosi move up? If something happens to the President, the Vice-President is sworn in and then nominates someone to fill his position. The Speaker of House is only is line if something happens to the President and Vice-President at the same time!
Section 2 of the Twenty-fifth Amendment provides that:
Go back to social studies, Made their bed, Montery Park, CA
Black Knight, you aren't a conservative. You are just a looney.
Any conservative would want the President protected regardless. Any thinking liberal would to, and there are plenty of them. Basically, everyone should be put on leave until an investigation is done, from the Secret Service agents to the staffers that let them in.
But regardless, you don't let a criminal off the hook because an officer didn't do their job. Well, unless you are a nutjob. It's like blaming a gun for killing someone and not the person pulling the trigger. The couple that crashed the party should be arrested.
The Salahis e-mails are not legit until we look at the Pentagon aide Michele Jones reply e-mails. Right now, for all we know the Salahis could easily produce fake e-mails that they were invited.
Desiree Rodgers should be fired because what she did was a terrible lapse in judgement. Obviously, thought her job was done when she went to the party. Tsk Tsk.
Eli - - - "we could have lost the president" - - - and the problem is???
Oh, I see; we could have ended up with Biden or Pelosi---now THAT is FRIGHTENING, stupid as well as evil.
Yep with Biden as president we would suffer. He's the only thing worse than Obama unless you want to talk about the "Crypt Keeper", Nancy Pelosi.
Obama wanted a more relaxed, casual White House. This is a direct result of foregoing long standing traditions for the sake of convenience and comfort.
"The Crypt Keeper". . . .I laughed out loud!!! I will use that one! Too funny.
We're suffering now so whats the difference? There's a plenty more to come before Obummer is done, this is only the first year...film at 11
You are absolutely correct. This is not a party issue this a national security issue. Like it or not he is the President of the United States. His safety and security directly effects each and every American. We need to get over thinking as right & left, conservative & liberal and start working and acting like Americans. Until we start acting as one people we are hurting oueselves. Lincoln said, "a House devided can not stand". I think this same statement can be applied to us as a people. We need to come together and act as one. Each with different ideas, but each working together for our great nation. People working & living together is what makes us strong.
Just My Thoughts:
Your comments are 100 per cent correct. Relaxed. Relaxed in a world of today means Terror.
Obama doesn't know the reality and meaning of being a President, who must protect and defend the people of the United Stated and himself. Responsiblity.
Maybe this time, it is a "warning".
roscoe-841582
Yeah, going on a whole year without an inept President ignoring warnings and basically allowing the deaths of almost 3000 people because he didn't want to read and act on a Presidential Daily Brief titled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack in the US" just over a month before... wait for it... here it comes.... Bin Laden DID attack in the US. Imagine That. CIA was right. Good reason for him to ignore them later, eh?
Yeah, Dumbya did a whole lot during his eight-year run, huh? 9/11, let Bin Laden escape capture, illegally invaded a sovereign nation, "legalized" torture and prisoner abuse, stripped people of their rights, illegally spied on Americans, destroyed the economy with his big business love affair, destroyed the admiration of America abroad, drove the country into perhaps the biggest division since the Civil War, lied, lied, lied, and... oh yeah, he lied some more.
truthseeker-
You're just disgustingly typical of too many cons.
ls-415070,
I stand corrected. But I suggest you go to your local store and buy some class. It's probably cheap out in your neck of the woods. I'm gonna guess that you still got the gist of my post. You are condescending and probably proud of it. Real nice. Though, I do nominate you "Teacher of the Vine". Btw, do you check spelling also? We need one of those too.
I'm sick of theset wo nobodies that thought they are somebodies.
They knowlingly trespassed on the White Hosue grounds, sans invitation, and should be charged accordingly. Dumba55e5.
And clearly ANY staff from teh White House or the Secret Service that didn't follow policy and procedure for checking invites, credentials, etc. MUST BE FIRED. This inability to fire government employees crap needs to stop, and here's a prime example.
What you say is ture but there is more here then just the nobodies! I haven't seen but one post that mentioned the Prime Minister of India or what his country might think of this mess. Think about it for a moment...what is this had been Russia, China, France etc..Not forgetting our own President's that's been this whole story..These lack a$$ addmissions, finger pointing should end with the termination of all involed. White House staffer's included. If it happen anywhere else...you would never hear the end of it. In those other countrie's (maybe not France) these two would have been toast! We need to get our $h&& together...this is bad and sad. Just saying.
Unfortunately, its the folks at the very bottom that get fired!
Fire Desiree Rogers and Michele Jones! They are the IDIOTS that fell for the Salahis shell game. If White House officials at this level cannot tell a con-artist from real hard working people; then they deserve to get fired! The press didn't have any problem finding problems with this couple's past endeavors. A simple Google or Bing should have raised enough flags to prevent this from happening.
As for the Salahi's, they should be dropped from any and all social circles that they 'pretended' to be a part of. They say they run successful fundraisers but the cash never seems to go into the charity that it was given for! This couple needs an IRS audit. They need a wake up call that their conning days are OVER!
That's funny because most people have a hard time spotting con artist that's why the call them con artist lol. And the ultimate job of protecting the President is the SS not Desiree Rogers and Michele Jones. If you read the transcripts of the emails all Michele Jones did was try to see if the crashers could get tickets and M. Jones told them that it was doubtful that they would get in. And if you would notice from the emails the Salahis told M. Jones who won't be attending. If Desiree Rogers was sitting talking or in the bathroom or anything else you can think of, how hard was it for someone from the SS to pick up a phone or send someone to find her or a staff member? If you are supposed to be protecting someone you don't rely on a second party for your info The oh I didn't know and she wasn't around me to ask doesn't cut it. I don't know many places other then the movies where you can walk up to a guard and say "Oh are you sure i'm not on the list, it's an error please let me" in works
I must say that I RARELY agree with the Republicans on anything, but it appears that this lapse of security could have ended in a a bloodbath at the White House. Thank god these people were brought to the limelight NOW. I'll bet things will be run a little "tighter" from now on. I do not agree that anyone should be persecuted, however. I use that word intentionally. Seems the Republicans want someone to pay...how about just getting the facts and moving on? Oh yeah, I forgot....their Republicans and that is not their nature.
...keep your bloomers on maggiem, they still all had to past thru a metal detector...geez..
...as for the ideological swipe at the reps...whatever...neither political party has anyone of virtue who could apply for sainthood...
...sorry to burst your bubble, but no even Obama...
gas and powders will not show in a metal detector, these creeps could have killed everyone at the white house without using a gun.
Sorry state of affairs over there.A huge blemish on the SS.
Honestly people, this is what happens when you have a head of state that caters to the rock star lifestyle that Obama has. With all the celebrities and their entourages coming and going on a regular basis it doesn't suprise me that this couple was allowed to get through security. The secret service most likely saw the camera's and enablers that surrounded the couple and thought it was normal in how the White House operates these days. This is just another glaring example of how inept this government is becoming.
You probably think the budget deficit, the wars in the middle east, and the recession started in February of '09 too. Bury your head deeper in the sand, that way we wont have to hear you whine anymore.
to let the rebubs tell it the country was going great untill obama came to power. it amazes me how he is blamed for everything that is wrong with this country.
Who's whining. Just calling it as I see it, where did I mention the deficit, wars in the middle east and recession in my post? Care to elaborate? Or can't you hear the train until its two feet from you.
Rock star lifestyle????? Huh????????
I believe the cameras left at the gate.
Also it is standard to have celebrities at these kinds of events.
nomoregames & CONSERVATIVE_LIB, What are you 2 rambling about? The original post you're replying to has none of the statements you're making up to complain about against the conservatives.
And as for blaming the president for all that's wrong with the country, noooo....the conservatives have been blaming CONGRESS for CONGRESSIONAL issues for the last 3 years. It was the left blaming Bush for everything congress did. Besides, new voters who just got into politics in the last 8 yrs or so saw nothing but blind Bush bashing and probably think that's how it's supposed to be done. Thanks all you Libs for that who didn't know the difference between the 3 houses. Now we get to hear false claims for a whole generation from ppl who think the Presidential office is a 1 man show with no checks and balances.
Allen-968499
And lest you forget, an office with a Veto pen against a congress without enough party members to override, and an office that had an occupant making "signing statements" on virtually every bill. Not to mention a Supreme Court that actually put him in office in the first place.
Gee, how easy it must be to forget these issues.
Too bad for the agents.....BUT I am sick of hearing about these two morons who are nobodys. Treat them like the scum they are and punish them for their actions. The media is only helping to make things worse by showing this ugly couple all dressed up over and over. No one cares what happens to them. They deserve what they get.
Agreed!
As for the agents, well they fell down on the job! You can't do that when you're Secret Service to the White House.
They Salahis' wanted fame....and they have it! Thanks to the media. They are making them the "stars" they wanted to be. It's a sad, sad, thing!
These two need to be prosecuted for trespassing on federal property....not given the lime light!
The sad thing is that this and Tiger Woods' little incident are front page news - with all else going on in the world.
As a citizen, should it be possible to "tresspass on federal property?" Doesn't that mean I'm an owner?
I vote we let the SS fix their process and let's all move on. There is a lot we each need to be paying attention to that is going on in Congress and the world right now. I pray we won't let insignificant stories like this distract us from reading, studying, phoning, emailing, asking hard questions, etc. Let's get involved with the real issues and move along.
Could have been "a night of horror" for sure. If anything would have happened to the President and Vice-President, we would have had PELOSI as head of state.
The horror....the horror....
Perish the thought!
BTW, As far as I'm concerned, this has been "a year of horror" for America...
Or Hillary Clinton.
or even worse, sarah palin.
NOBODY can be worse than Pelosi - - - whatever happened to her lies about the CIA? What about the 6 million it takes annually to support her government jet? What about the Delta smelt she got $30 million for the protection of a species that isn't even native to california? What about - - -
rove, bush 1, bush 2, palin, mccain ect all could be worst than pelosi. dont get me wrong, pelosi sucks too, but please tell me where the WMDs are. . .
We need to ask Hillary, she said " We all thought they had WMD's" that was what she said in her rebuttle after Bush landed on the air craft carrier and said " Mission accomplished", so please, ask one of your own. And in my opinion NO ONE could be worse than the Three Stoges, Dumbo, Big Mouth and Stretch.
Oh God, that again? I dunno. Ask Clinton (both of them) and all the other Democrats who spoke out about them during the Clinton years. That's when all those "lies about WMDs" started you seem to like to drudge up originated. Besides, there were PICTURES of them in warehouses that had the roofs blown off, they're still blowing up stockpiles in Iraq daily and finding mass graves of dead bodies killed by them. If you were given 10 years, control of a country, and an area the size of California to hide something, do you think you could do it? I'm sure I could. Something like a concrete vault with a house built on top of it would be a good example.
Sheesh give it a rest or read some non liberal news sources. This isn't new information.
truthseeker-
You mean her "lies" that the CIA later confirmed were actually true? That the CIA did indeed withhold information from Congress that they were required by law to reveal?
You mean about the money it takes to fly the military jet that she is required to use due to secession rules? The jet she inherited from Haystert, who was also required to use it for the same reason?
You mean about the Delta Smelt that are currently endemic to the Sacramento Delta, California, where it is distributed from the Suisun Bay upstream through the Delta in Contra Costa, Sacramento, San Joaquin, Solano and Yolo counties.
You mean... maybe... the Truth?
The Salahis made huge head line news over the last five days or so and so has Tiger Woods. The news media has nothing else to talk about except to give news about two people that i don't care about. Washington and the news media need to get its act straight and talk about real issues: the Economy, Jobs, health care, and wars! Get on with it news people i dint' care at all if Tiger cheated on his wife, i also don't care if the Salahis crashed a party at the white house. Obviously the Salahis have been invited previous to many other white house events and that's why they were able to crash the party. Give it a break let's talk about the real issues that we face in America!
There's lots of new out there Grace, which is the double-edged sword of the internet. Nobody is forcing you to click on these stories, but I might suggest that the party crashing story is deeper than just the "nobodies" involved. This was an excellent test of security around the nation's capitol and the security measures failed. Better to find out this way (from the nobodies) and work to improve the measures than to find out through a real tragedy, don't you think?
And ITA that I don't care who Tiger is screwing, but I just choose not to read those stories. Free country and all that...for now anyway. Some people *are* interested apparently.
Laura S. I'm not sure this was "an excellent test of security around the nations capitol" - just an event. Some of us are interested in getting this off the front page and focusing on the issues that Grace listed.
Don't forget the daily stories about how when a factory shuts down, only the blacks are going to suffer in the job loss. That seems to be a theme this week as well.
The crashers have nothing more to say? Put their asses in jail!! Are they above the law? It would appear so.
Oh shut up.
Freedom of speech, buddy. If you want someone to shut up it should be you.
The phrase was not meant to be literal. Duh...
i think they should be in jail but they didnt break any laws.
What law did they break? Let it go.
I'm not saying this in not a serious problem, but this is just grandstanding by congress. The right people are taking care of the problem, congressional gadflies are just wanting face time on TV.
I can't believe it!!! These self promoting Social Climbers, who have probably never worked an honest day in their lives get off Scot free and these hard working men are losing their jobs? That is a crime in itself. If they had never been in trouble before I could understand writing them up, but to lose their job over someone elses greed is a sin.
This couple have single handedly destroyed his families business, have stolen money meant for charities, lied about their being invited by Indian Diplomats, lied about being a Washington redskins cheerleader, begged and badgered a Pentagon official for four (4) days to obtain an invitation to further their self promoting efforts.
I hope they find several things to charge them with and I hope they are off the list of any future Social events.
Please give these men their jobs back.
I think we have a self-promoting social climber who never worked a day in his life living in the White House calling himself President.
DianeR:
And don't forget they showed up at a Black Caucus event uninvited where the plates were $20,000 each, I believe (the nerve of some people). Don't know if you read about that one, but it was an article on-line a couple of days ago.
And they were kicked out of the Black Caucus event.
Adminstrative leave is different than losing your job. I have not heard if it was even without pay. Often pay continues. Be patient. When the smoke clears - if we will let it, everyone will forget about it (many have forgotten about much more serious and devastating 9/11), "the guys" will come off of adminstrative leave and be reassigned away from the WH and the world will keep turning.
We can't make this a Democrat versus Republican issue. The real issue is the only thing that matters. Someone that was not cleared and unknown got access to the President of the United States of America. Trust me I did not vote for nor do I approve of President Obama but he is the President. No matter how we feel about the job he is doing or the Man we can't allow any chance of harm to our leader. Those people did not need a weapon to do harm there are people that can kill with their hand faster than they could be stopped. A message has got to be sent and these boobs that did this are the scape goats. They must be charge and sent to jail so any would be copy cats understand we take this serious. We do things at the ballot box period.
Exactly! The presidency of the USA is bigger than one man. If the president of the US is assassinated the markets could crash and America could be under attack from any number of would be terrorists who would see the death of our president as major weakness. No matter your party affiliation you should want the president protected.
Agreed!! Well put!
Well that's so true but the worst would be from within, Imagine the Riots America has had, that will look like a Family picnic if something happened to Obama, people need to get a grip on reality, and those people should get the fame they wanted by a long stiff prison sentence, I'd like to see if they think that is funny ...
Put these two fools on work detail in bright orange suits saying I want attention
I wholeheartedly agree!
Alan:
Good idea! Blonde goes good with orange, doesnt it?
They could have their own prison reality series. " The Salahis and the balloon boy parents meet Bubba"
I don't want my tax dollars supporting these morons on paid leave!?!? NOT FAIR. Fire them. Nice to see the U.S. protecting a black man like never before in history though, right? Bodes well for our country's evolution
Not our fault...Blame Bush, the CIA, th Secret Service, the Republicans, Dick Cheney,the FAA (Air-Force One NYC Flyover),the military, Guantanamo, The IRS (Tax cheats), etc., etc., etc!!! It's not me or my friends and when it is my friends...I didn't hear that ( Rev Wright), just a guy in the neighborhood (Bill Ayers), the police acted stupidly, don't jump to conclusions at Ft Hood, etc., etc., etc.!!! This man has some enormous ego! I created jobs, I saved the Turkey, I apologize for America! My stimulus package, my Health-care plan...when they don't work it's not my fault. Someone else goes under the bus! Gotti was the "Teflon Don", Obama is the "Teflon President"! Time to go back to community organizing, Odumbo!
Your guy did a great job. Lets bring him back.
You have issues, have you ever been for Mental Health treatment.
If you listened to right wing media, he wasn't "our guy". He was waaaay too liberal in his spending and government involvement. He was just better than the alternative the donkeys were putting up to run against. I mean....seriously? Lawyers for hot tub lawsuits? I'm surprised the community organizer and wife of a previous president were their next choices.
What the hell is a community organizer anyway? Someone who gets on the radio to tell volunteers which red lights are out of order so they can direct traffic during a power outage?
Let's stop making excuses.Hold everyone accountable for this very unfortunate mishap.
i have been saying since last summer that there was going to be a prolem with the secret service there are some racist and sepratists there too it soes not matter what was done in previous adm. desiree rogers was not responsible the secret service was
Do not turn this into some kind of joke. Throwing the Racist allegation around is unfounded. The presidents Secret Service Detail has been screened and re-screened and they are above reproach. This is a case of bad judgement and mistakes that should have never happened. People use the Race card too much until people begin to think it is meaningless.
Kind of similar to likening everything to Nazism.
This IS a joke. Make no mistake.
Sieg Heil
I hop your sig was a joke, if not you are truly lost. Trying to bail out the economy and provide everyone with health insureance is hardly the same as murdering 6,000,000 people because of their religion, and being responsible for a war that killed 70,000,000. Good job failing at logic by the way.
Race???? You must be kidding! Desiree Rogers was in charge too. Let the blame fall on the shoulders of the people that let the weisels in!
Too late unfortunately. In the last year it was redefined as "a white person who disagreed with a black persons political view or agenda". The 8 years prior this was not the case since disagreeing with Rice, Powell, etc was socially acceptable.
It didn't take long for someone to blame the Obama administration for this lapse in security. They make broad statements like, "With all the celebrities and their entourages coming and going on a regular basis..." as if they are fact. Where do they get all this insight into the daily activities at the White House?
Just shut up.
Yes! It could`ve been a nightmare...,but it wasn`t. Would have,could have,should have, but nothing bad happened. Thank goodness! Next time they just need to be more careful that all.
Wow - that is truly evil.
kenny are you a mentally sicko or something!
wow kenny takes a big man to make hateful statemnts on a blog. you must feel real good about yourself and you country.
Do you even realize the type of statements you make about Republicans whether it applies to the subject at hand or not?
Yes, The comment i made was to the post kenny made. i think my response fit the comment. but thanks for your input pal.
They should be thanked for uncovering such a weakness. Now that they did it how long before the real terrorist's try??
This is a complete and utter failure on the part of the secret service and they should be held accountable. Congress does need to hear from these people i think, I'm really torn in that Congress again sticks its nose in where it doesn't belong. What does congress know about presidential security? Let the Secret service police their own they do know their jobs they just had a serious breach of policy that needs to be corrected.
But back tot he party crashers, they didn't intend to hurt anyone or they easily could have done so. Let's not turn them into the sacrificial lambs because our secret service failed to do their jobs.
It's Not just the SS!! That's the problem!!!His own staffer's could have gotten them killed!!!!Like other's are saying friends or not, they put them all in danger!!Fire them all not just the SS. D. Rodgers needs to answer and speak up! Friend or not.. take the heat.
What ironic Nonsense - politicians rearing up on their hind legs and investigating after the fact.
Americans pay for the president's house, electric bill, water bill, phone bill, landscaping, etc. etc. We should ALL be invited to his parties. It would be interesting to see how many accepted the invite. It would, of course, have been a tragedy if the president was adversely affected but he WAS NOT!!
Who or what are we really protecting??? A politician who follows a script written by the big financial interests who just harvested what little wealth Americans had remaining - their home equity.
This is just another example of the police state stooges using a ridiculous incident to ratchet up the super controls on our freedom.
Congratulations to the Salahis for crashing the party! Maybe the president won't have any more of these bashes at our expense.
But who would want to go to a party hosted by someone so instrumental in curtailing American freedom and ideals???
You are right!!!! The president is a welfare collecting bottom feeder!!! Cut him off, I dont want my tax dollars affording his public housing at 1600!!
american ideals and freedoms, like espoused by the last administration?
you're laughable
torture, anyone?
It was the President's first State Dinner. Please stop talking about something you really fail to evaluate correctly.
Did you concern yourself with other events held at the White House by other Presidents.
John Pitt. Why do you believe that anyone who disagrees with President Obama must by default love President G. W. Bush? Please turn that page in your brain. You might have to open the mind a bit to do it, but I believe you can do it.
I say leave the party crashers alone & fire the secret agents that cost taxpayers a huge amount of money for thier stupidity of not doing thier job & this is typical goverment waste that constantly happens everyday & now there will be a hearing that will cost taxpayers more money to investigate this action,, Well it should come out of the secret service agents pockets instead.
Disagree, party crashers ingaged in an act that could cost a life...Their actions is making a mockery out of the President, and people.Everyone who's involved in their entry to the White House should be fired.Both the first and the second check point.These people are incompetent and should never be hired in the first place...
Are you a moron??? You probably think the self-grandiose couple should be rewarded for their behavior. These two should be thrown in jail for six months and fined $100k to minimize the cost to the taxpayer.
Why would we fire the three (assuming they are really guilty of an oversight) people who just learned an incredibly valuable lesson. Put yourself in that role, imagine you just have been disciplined for breaking protocol, and you will probably respond one of two ways: 1) quit like many do today who are given negative feedback, or 2) become zealous for following protocol. If they go with option 2 you will probably have a keeper.
There is not a training course the SS could pay for that would teach them what they have just learned. These are not run of the mill people. I would suspect that they have already learned the lesson they need to learn.
Where was Mr. Thompson's "concern" when the nut case was walking around with a gun at one of the president's speaking engagements?
His staff must be reading the blogs and decided that it was politically expedient to jump on the band wagon and voice his "concern" about protecting the president now.
These money grubbing people (the couple and the politition) sicken me.
Actually the person who had the weapon you are referring to was in an area that was legal for him to have it. I know scary right someone that close to the President with a weapon. You could bet on one thing though is he would have lifted the weapon in a hostile act towards the President a Sniper would have took care of it. Our laws and the Constitution gives we the people some latitude on what we can and can't do. People in Congress however they may lie, cheat, pit party against party, do not want any harm to come to our President. That is not the message we want sent around the world.
Nance: Thanks, we were wondering the same thing about that fellow that showed up with a weapon. I wonder what would have happened if he showed up at one of Bush's speeches.
In any event, President Obama has overestimated the intelligence of the average American. Note these blogs.
The head of the Secret Service told an outright lie to Congress. There are numerouse edge weapons available that are of non metallic materials that could have been carried in on the persons of the two fakes. Had they desired to do so they could very easily have maimed or killed any person they chose at the party.
I agree...I mean, it was a "dinner." Do they not use metal silverware...perhaps even knives?
The question that American's should ask is, "If the current management in our country can't protect our President appropriately, how can they protect thousands of miles of borders, waterways, air portals, etc.?"
It's concerning.
Let's think of who WASN'T at this event?? I shudder to think that if these people had been other than who they are that our government could have been wiped out due to someone not following strict and very simple protocol.