The House passed legislation Wednesday that would ban misleading mailings designed to appear they're from the Census Bureau, following criticism that Republican groups were sending fundraising letters using the census name.
House bans misleading census mailings
Seeded on Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:42 PM EST (msnbc.com)


Once the letter is opened, it is really easy to determine whether it is a real census form. This was a waste of time.
It's still deceptive. This is just another case of some Republicans acting like Democrats.
Speaking of waste, anyone else think it both wasteful and stupid for the Gummint to send out Census letters saying they were going to be sending out Census forms? It's like Dilbert's "plan the plan's planny plan."
What else does the Republican party have to offer other than dirty tricks???
REALLY.
So is the House now claiming some "proprietary" right to the word Census? This term has been around since the time of the Pharaohs and great Chinese dynasties. I think our legislators seem to have a bit too much unproductive time on their hands.
Speaking of the census: Wouldn't it be cool if everyone didn't answer the race question. The only place race should be an issue is in the doctor's office.
I came here to post exactly that point. minorities will get the most money. it is becoming a bad thing to be caucasian in this country. do not answer that question!
Go USA- not exactley right, I have a elderly neighbor that asked me to help her with her census form. I had gotten the same trash in my mail and threw it away. I gentley explained that they were trying to tell her how we were going to be killing her very soon, as soon as we could get health care passed. Did you get one of those forms, did you read it?
Marty, you sir are an idiot. Death panels and all that crap is not in the bill. Get your head out of Fox news butt.
there is going to be a bureaucratic board of appointed members who ration healthcare. that is in the bill. there will never be enough money stolen, errr, taxed from the middleclass to pay for 30 million parasites with runny noses. there will have to be rationed care and you will have to be worthy of it. read this @!$%# stack and find out. by the way, if you do work, how do you like paying 4 yrs.(starting immediately)for benefits you will only have for 6 out of the next 10 yrs. ? sucks doesn't it. well, the republicans have found a way to kill this and I am happy about that.
Charles, because of people like you and the very lies you just said makes me want healthcare overhaul even more. Keep up the good work there chuck.
I'm curious about how much this non-sense is costing us, I'm sure it could wait. I'm also wondering how much it cost us to get that useless "pre-mailer" telling us that the actual questionare was coming next week? what a waste. How about just toss the thing in the trash, or better yet, take a felt-tip and write across the answer sheet in big letters...
"NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS" then send it in. Obama would probably dispatch his thugs. I mean really, this administration will manipulate the information to serve their ends anyway so whats the point?
The VERY SAME LETTER WENT OUT 10 YEARS ago and you all thought nothing of it.
The government can't even get this right-I've had my Census form for over two weeks with letters telling me it was coming for two weeks before that. Did not get one of these political letters though.
And HOW does this demonstrate, exactly, government failing to "get it right?"
Sara's right. I received my form on March 10th. It asked the names of the individuals living in this residence as of April 1. Included was a note instructing me to complete the form and return it "today". Not knowing if I would even be alive on April 1, I could not honestly answer the questions and follow the instructions. These are the folks who want to manage our health care.
I don't think you people got the official census form yet. If it asked for names and dates, thats definitly not a census form.
Anyone who thinks it is patriotic to NOT fill out the census forms will be getting a new representative in their district or NOT.
Many statistics are sensitive to population centers and if you all don't reply, we all lose. However, I think most of those who do not want to cooperate with government responsibilities live in states that NEED more government help, and won't get it due to the low populations reported.
You are not obligated or have to answer anything more then how many people in this residence?
According to our Founding Documents, the government only has the right to know how many people live at this address.
That is all I am going to answer to. Look at the questionare, the first question is separate from the last 9.
No matter what they want you to complete, you are under NO obligation or are legally bound to divulge anything more. I know I received mine today and will not answer anything more then...
#1. How many people were living or staying in this house, apartment, or mobile home on April 1, 2010? Number of people =_____
Stop being so paraniod. Read the Constitution. It explains fully what the Census if for. It specifically does NOT state that if we have a Black President he'll be OUT TO GET YOU. What are you so afraid of?
You on the Right claim the government can't do anything right, anyway, so what are you worried about?
I am a life long Republican and, whether it is obvious or not, the intent is clear - to mislead someone so they will open the envelope. It just shows once again that the when you go into politics you need to leave your common sense and ethics behind. Makes me ashamed to admit my political leanings.
Right on Paulo99. I have contributed to the RNC for years and have in recent years found many of their fund raising letters insulting. Recently I received one with a big red "PAST DUE" stamped on the face of the envelope. Inside was a note stating that my membership renewal was past due and that I should send $50 to be reinstated. I wrote on the note that they should fire the moron that thought this was clever and not to darken my door with crap like this again. I then sent it back in their post-paid envelope. I will continue to support selected Conservative candidates but it will be a cold day when I contribute to the RNC again.
The Republican crooks voted against themselves for appearance. They got caught and now want to appear to be outraged that such a thing could happen. Give me a break!
Linda - Kind of like democrats voting to go to war because of WMD's then saying they were lied to. What is worse in your mind?
JH:
What is clearly worse is the president who misled Congress and the American people about the existence of the WMD's in the first place.
Procrustes - Do you mean like President Clinton did for eight years? He was backed up by his whole administration. They just suddenly lost all recognition of 1992 through 1999.
I believe that the entire congress had the oppertunity to review the intel on the "likelyhood" that there were WMD's and make up their own minds before voting to go to war. Is anyone suggesting that administration could have orchestrated that big of a lie and no one come forward and say, "we were instructed to falsify the intel just so the admin could justify going to war" ?? Just like the BS that 9/11 was planned for justification to start that whole mess.
There's a Tooth Fairy too, and Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny...no really, I saw him when I was 5, LOL
Yep! It is not only Republican mailings but, also some unscrupulous businesses. I had one requesting my SSN.
that wasn`t from a business , it was from a scam artist. i haven`t received the censes , but i have gotten 2 reminders it`s on the way . that is the real waste of money as far as i`m concerned, how much did it cost to mail millions of letters twice?
So does that make the GOP scam artists, also?
Oh! I got the letter today from the US Census to expect the form around the 15th. First letter.
re: charles turner:
"minorities will get the most money."
is it your impression that people are getting paid for participating in the census? very strange!
I think the point is there is no reason for race to be one of the questions. There should be only one question HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE THERE and that's it. What difference does it make if you are pink or purple They only need to count the American Citizens
The RNC appeal came in the name of GOP Chairman Michael Steele while the NRCC letter was from House GOP leader John Boehner of Ohio.
"The NRCC remains opposed to misleading mailings," said NRCC spokesman Paul Lindsay.
So, if they are opposed, then why did they do it? I would like to hear from Steele and Boehner, since their names were used in the mailings. Did they know or were they totally unaware that the organizations they lead were doing such despicable things?
You can always tell when a politician is lying. His/her lips are moving.
Didn't we go through this already with Publishers Clearing House? Turns out, most of us weren't winners.
The NRC will just dream up another way to scam voters.....no big deal this sort of thing has been going on for years.
They already did, its the Church and Glen Beck!
They are becoming old news too...thanks for the tag.
That is not fair! The republicans love to play dirty tricks on the American public. Without Republican phoney Census Forms how will the Republicans know which Democrats to target as ANTI-AMERICAN???????????
Article 1, Section 2. "Whole number of free persons" That's the ONLY thing the Constitution requires. NOTHING MORE!!!!
So the Constitution does not require a census every ten years? Did not Amendment 14 section 2 change the wording of Article 1, Section 2?
Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons [Modified by Amendment XIV]. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct.
(Bold emphasis added) You need to read the entire law, not just the parts you want.
It was just these kinds of disgusting mailings by the Republican party that caused me to quit their party last year. These would be disguised as opinion polls, which asked questions like "Do you agree that the Democrats should be allowed to complete the socialization of America and install Adolph Hitler as president so we can all be enslaved?" Since I've joined the Democrats, I get mailings that say things like "Come meet our candidates! It's a pot-luck. Bring a dish." There really is a difference.
Another misleading story by the media. I got one of those "deceptive letters". It was very clearly marked who it was from. It was sent to people who's names somehow got on a potential donors list or something like that because it was addressed to "loyal supporter".
more dupe and deceive from the party of hate. republicans are so crooked that when they die they will have to screw them into the ground. being a republican today not only involves hate-but a complete lack of character as well
If the census is used to design congressional districts, why are military personnel who are deployed outside of the United States not counted in the state side enumeration?
Why do undocumented immigrants count in the population for deciding how many congressional districts a state gets, but deployed personnel who will not be home on April 1, 2010 do not count?
How long has this been the policy of our government?
Military personel fill out their own forms wherever they are stationed, but their numbers are added to wherever they call home for district representation. The same is true of inmates, government employees stationed overseas, etc.
I'm not positive, but it seems to me that not very many illegal aliens will participate in the census, since they are trying very hard to be ignored by governmental officials. I'm sure that some will be counted, but I would think that most will not.
Eh, I don't how exactly those Republican fund-raising letters resembled Census Forms... but bearing a certain resemblance should be banned.
Now if only it would apply to commercials too. The liberals had some pretty nasty health-care deceptions airing on T.V. by newly formed 'public' health-care companies claiming they were from the government.
On a less serious note...
I also hate it when it says IMPORTANT!! on the front of a letter and ends up being a letter that says they want to sell me a cheap product for one dollar (of course the fine print says I have to spend 400 dollars on their merchandise by this time next year).
I also hate credit card junk mail that tries to trick you into thinking that you had applied for it and forgot about it. I don't buy your lies! I've even had mail that tried to resemble my actual bank and credit card company... >.>