Sen. Ted Kennedy's youngest son, Rep. Patrick J. Kennedy (D-R.I.), visited his father's grave on Monday morning and left a hand-written note that read: "Dad, the unfinished business is done."
'Dad, the unfinished business is done'
Seeded on Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:38 PM EDT (msnbc.com)


Thanks, Ted, for your tireless efforts in making this a reality. And may God forgive any cruel, heartless comments that may follow from the other side.
Bartman.... the only people that won are the parasitic lemmings that are too damn lazy to work for what they have / want.
Why do you think that folks are entitled to the fruit of another man's labor? Why?
This entitlement mindset / expectation will lead to the financial downfall of this great country, perhaps by design at the hands of the Socialist/Marxist/Progress Liberals in power now.
It will not stand, so enjoy it while you can......
The "unfinished business" will be dealt with in Nov. and finally in 2012. The Democrats have sealed their fate for many years to come. If they even think about Amnesty or Global Warming crap, they will see a fury they never thought possible in America.
"Dad, the unfinished business is done". "PS, how's Mary Jo?"
Yeah "DAD". Thanx for F-ing up this country. You're still not dead? For Heaven's sake Ted...would you please DIE!? Leave us alone!
Cheap threat Bartman...
I have worked, served in the Navy,and paid taxes for 45 years, thank you. It's just that I was raised to be able to think beyond myself and my bank account. And to not make baseless generalizations about people about whom I know NOTHING! You were obviously not raised that wy. Your loss!
Gag. I appreciate Ted Kennedy's service to this country. I appreciate his son's respect for his father. However, no one wants to read this dribble as a "news worthy" story. Shouldn't this be side story on some feel good, "old folks at home", type NPR segment?
Dad the job is done, we final bankrupted America.
It should have read: "Dad: The country is done and once again you helped kill."
Then why weren't you making contributions to groups that raise funds for those who couldn't afford hospital visits, etc so this bill wasn't necessary? Oh yeah, that's right, the left wing likes to call those people radical crazy Christians. Those are the guys who thought beyond their own bank account. This law just thinks beyond their own bank account to take from the next guys bank account. Where I come from that's called theft.
Politics aside, it was a nice symbolic gesture.
Bartman VERY good post and point well taken --I'm in the same boat with 60 years of taxes and 4 navy ----------------------------------------------would sure love to see the draft reinstated that would change some minds in a hurry !!!!
puke
"And on a dreary Tuesday morning, dozens of school children and health care advocates paused at Kennedy's tombstone to commemorate the man who for decades made overhauling the nation's health-care system his life's mission."
I commemorated too; I had a free colonoscopy and an olive oil enema right on the tombstone. Bless you Ted; your legacy of socialism lives on.
Fitting. The most corrupt bill passing tomfoolery ever and it is a tribute to Teddy.
I've never heard of an olive oil enema. Then again, I don't claim to be an expert on the subject.
That didn't sound right. Sorry about that.
Bartman...all that life experience?
Just goes to show you, there's no fool like an old fool.
Orbust - yah...I'd like to be there too. Problem is...Ted is the one who helped kill the working man by instigating a welfare state. Paradoxical, I know.
The question is...Who killed you and me? When after all, it was Ted Kennedy.
Blow it out your a-----, Bartman. The projected cost of Medicare in this decade, at the time medicare was passed, was esitmated to be 12B$, today it is 112B$. Nearly 8 times the "projection", apply the same error to this boondoggle.......
RIP mary jo kopechne
Oh, please! How maudlin can you get? That's embarrassing. Maybe we could work Princess Di into this somehow.
"The unfinished business is done"? I don't think so Patrick Kennedy! The unfinished business will be done once we get rid of every democratic bastard in congress, get rid of the socialist POTUS and Obamacare and take back America. We The People were all in favor of responsible healthcare reform that would have essentially reformed the broken system on a bi-partisan basis without destroying it and the economy, but you reckless and fiscally ignorant Democratic bastards made it a political issue instead, you're destroying the country, our kids futures and you ARE going to pay for it politically and personally-GUARANTEED! So laugh now, celebrate and enjoy the fact that you defied the will of the people in order to advance your political agenda. Very soon, your ass is grass and We The People are going to be the lawnmowers!
Oh by the way Dad the people of the great State of Massachusetts took back the seat you held onto for 47 years!!!
Allthumbs - not sure how to work Princess Di in here...but do you know what the tree said to Sonny Bono when he had his ski accident?
"I got you babe."
That wasn't long after Princess Di was at the John Denver concert.
Typical of Ted, showed up drunk again.
Remember in November.
Bartman, Thank You! There are some NUTS here that have had waaaaay too tea or too much Limpnoddle. Either way they are IDIOTS! For some reason, they only know a couple talking points and they all seem to be filled with hate! I also saw where Allen-964899 brought up an interesting point:
Allen, I suggest you go to the Christian website "www.sojo.org" Believe it or not.... THEY TOO wanted this bill to pass. God bless them!
Bartman - If you've done what you say and are as old as you say, you are old enough to know better. Your kind will ruin this country. Far from being patriots, you and ol' Ted are closer to anarchists. And don't give me the old crap about empathy for your fellow man. Ted was more concerned about Ted than he was Mary Jo, wasn't he??? Some heroes you Libs have.....
The National Debt (borrowed) is $14 TRILLION, Unfunded Social Program Liabilities (off balance sheet like Madoff accounting except its our Government) is Social Security $17.5 TRILLION, Medicare part A $36 TRILLION, part B $37 TRILLION, part D $15 TRILLION, GRAND TOTAL US DEBT OVER $100 TRILLION and NO WAY or PLANS to PAY FOR THIS.
We CANNOT AFFORD THESE ENTITLEMENTS, certainly not in this economy with 1 in 10 unemployed, not if actually paid down under a capitalistic system.
The answer of Obama and the other leftist communists?
ADD ANOTHER ENTITLEMENT we can't POSSIBLY afford.
What is the ultimate goal of these leftists and does it have ANYTHING to do with the principles upon which this great nation was founded?
You Repubs are something. We have been paying for this all along, it just is hidden- in closing ER Rooms - Cancer Patients who could have been out-patients but instead spent millions on in-care - your relatives dying.
A Republican is someone arogant enough to think they are beyond tragedy striking them or theirs.
--- oh yes and Steelman , you don't even rep 1/2 the country - how will u change it ? by continually acting nuts and alienating middle of the road voters?
to all the haters. it is absolutely pathetic to watch so many sink lower, and lower, and lower... sickening. how you do look at yourself. how revolting can one be. these mean spirited comments come from a very dark place. perhaps the darkest. how sad to be you. i'm really very sorry for anyone who knows you... peace.
Bartman,
Thanks for your post!
Hey Bartman, I'm glad you like Ted's legacey. May you be the only one.
Thank you, Senator Edward Kennedy for your tireless efforts to do what is right. YOU WON!!! and to Bartman for your kind comments. The sad sacks in this country will never be happy. If it were possible, I would sack everyone's health care who disses this great moment. Over the next 4 years it will only get better!
Peace, Blessings to all who supported this Bill!!!
Dakotahgeo, M.Div. Pastor/Chaplain
There will be a ton of heartless comments. It is not good to speak ill of the dead, but plenty of foolish idiots will relish the opportunity.
As for me, I often said (while Teddy was still with us) that all the good Kennedys were dead. I think I was wrong.
If it inflames the hemmoroids of the right wingnuts to say this, it only make it more fun. He made mistakes, but he was a good man. You can blow me if you don't like it.
Incredibly stupid and pointless news story
but some of the jokes here are priceless! LOL!
There are very few reasonable people who would argue that healthcare needed 'reformed' however a massive entitlement program, while we are in the midst of pulling ourselves out of a recession is not the answer. Most people with decent insurance are those with decent jobs. Wouldn't it have been better to concentrate on job creation? Why not give companies incentives for providing decent health insurance? Why not have an insurance czar who oversees the insurance industry? What this bill has done has forced every american citizen to purchase a healthcare policy or suffer the consequences! How is that not socialism? Are we not going to have a panel of doctors AND politicians on a transplant board in the near future determining who lives and who dies? This disgusting "News" is nothing but more PR.
One other thing; the unfinished business is not done, but it will be in November!
Ted, I hope you are in unending torment for what you did to Mary Jo.
It's amazing how willing liberals (socialists) are to spend other peoples money. Oh, BTW congress has a Cadillac plan, they aren't using this steaming pile for their medical needs.
That's OK. When Ted died, Jesse Helms was waiting on him.
Oh well, the bill passed.
I wonder how many jobs will be lost. Let's see, if you have a company with between 50 and 60 employees, I suppose the smart business owner will get his numbers down to 49. How, you ask? Automation where possible, part-time or temporary labor where it's not. With more than 100, look to move your business offshore (don't worry about Americans protesting and not buying your product, they've had 30 years to cut back on imports and haven't found the will). Those businesses barely making ends meet, close your doors. There's no point pretending that you'll get help.
Those of you that end up unemployed, and voted or supported this, it serves you right. You'll get your healthcare, but when you are living in a cardboard box or can't feed yourself, show your newly minted free insurance card. I'm sure it's worth at least one meal, but then again, maybe not. Those of you that were against it and lost your jobs because of it, remember in November.
Make no mistake about it, this mandate placed on businesses will absolutely kill jobs.
The press is fascinated by the most trivial crap. This is hardly newsworthy. Relegate it to a side page in the Boston area. The rest of the country doesn't care about the corrupt clan in Massachusetts.
Where were all you big talking people when Jr. Bush was driving America into the biggest debt in American History? You talk about this Healthcare bill like its going to Bankrupt America? I have news for all of you, The United States has been bankrupt since Ronald Reagan left Office and the two Bush's put the last nails in our coffin!
You mean Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass) who's net worth was over $163,298,999.00 and lots of that was made off investments in the medical industry? ?
Wow! could have bought a hell of a lot of insurance with that over these years. Could have eased so much suffering and Didn't ,I wonder why not? Obama is worth over 15 million and no help form his wealth for the uninsured? Strange. Why do these poor people still wait for years for the help they deserve when the ones who care have so much wealth?
No law against giving away your own money right?
Yeah, that would have worked out if the Republicans had been even slightly willing to have bipartisan discussions. Instead, they were just as much "my way or the highway" as the Democrats.
I'd also like to say to all the people griping about how healthcare reform will take money out of working people's pockets to pay for healthcare for goof-offs: think again, morons. The people that will be helped most by the bill are those who ARE working, make too much money to qualify for Medicaid, and are unable to afford insurance. People like me - I've worked since I was 18 years old, am now 56, and was unemployed for almost two years, despite being willing to take pretty much any kind of job that would allow me to pay the bills. I'm now working a job that just barely allows me to do that - but only because I am NOT having money takenout for insurance premiums. With this new bill, I MIGHT be able to actually afford some coverage. Do I think the bill is perfect? Hell, no - there's a lot I don't like about it. But if the Republicans hated it so much, why didn't they at least try to work with the Democrats to come up with a better bill?
yeah thanks Ted, 1 Trillion in debt over the next 10 years!!!!!!
You are a complete ass. One year ago, Ted Kennedy was dying - and hadn't touched alcohol in many years. I hope that when you die, you get the same complete lack of compassion and respect you show to others.
What's wrong with that? Someone besides a Republican can be rich!
The whole thing is too staged for my liking. If you want to leave your father a note a the cemetary, fine. If you want to have a press conference saying your father would be pleased, fine. But don't do one thing and pretend it's the other.
Not to mention the millions of dollars of expensive care that could have been avoided if more people had healthcare coverage that provided decent preventive care. Do you have any idea how many people show up in ERs for things that could have been handled much less expensively by a primary care physician? Do you know how many people don't get any kind of medical care until they're so sick that they need costly treatments? For that matter, do you know how many people die each year because they either don't see a doctor at all, or wait until it's too late?
Gosh, you beat me to the "F" ed comment about the country Thanks, you are so correct!
"Ted Kennedy's dream"..........Too bad it wasn't the American peoples "Dream".................ya know..."We the people?"
It is one thing to offer people a better way of life, but quite another, to "enable and reward" those that make/made choices not to work, not to further their education,, or attempt to better themselves. America has crossed the path (again) of commons sense in government and buried this country in debt.
2 years of "extended unemployment" benefits, growing government, (not the private sector), free health care to those that have made poor choices, "enabling" and rewarding "manipulators" (and I could show plenty living off this administrations "welfare") in so doing, punishing the kids, and grandkids future (this theory of "pay later", has been tried and failed - ask the Terminator in California - 8th largest economy in the world, bankrupt) all the while, these government decisions, punishing those that chose to further their education, change their career paths, downsize their lifestyle, has led to a path of future destruction and revolution in America. And yes, it is BOTH parties fault!
There is a reason "we the people" were/are allowed to arm ourselves. Kennedy must not realize there are "lazy, illegal, manipulators" "milking" the American System, bankrupting the American Dream of hard work, education, leads to success.
Spider says,
"Dad, the unfinished business is done". "PS, how's Mary Jo?"
Spider,
Ted went south, Mary Jo went north................
to all the haters. it is absolutely pathetic to watch so many sink lower, and lower, and lower... sickening. how you do look at yourself. how revolting can one be. these mean spirited comments come from a very dark place. perhaps the darkest. how sad to be you. i'm really very sorry for anyone who knows you... peace.
Joseph you do realize that obama's budget was far higher than Bushes. Bush had us heading the wrong direction fiscally. Obama hit the accelerator.
Vicki,
In answer to all of your hypothetical questions, the answer is no and I'm sure you have no idea either. But way to spout out platitudes with such vigor and passion! In fact, there was a study that showed that the majority of those people that apparently show up to the emergency room for unecessary emergency treatment are actually those that have insurance, not those that do not. Therefore, now that everyone will have insurance, that problem can only be compounded, not reduced. And since the only way to reduce it would be for someone third party to tell them they require approval to go the emergency room, I quess you wouldn't object to waiting for insurance approval to go to the emergency room because the only way to stop some, is to require approval for all. I can't wait, afterall, a third party government official will really speed up the emergency room process!
and the bull @!$%# just keeps right on 'a comin'.......
eat @!$%# GOP! there is nothing anyone can to do or say to make any of you LOSERS any more miserable than you already are.
look at all the little babies cry! LMAO!!!
thats not true Get to the point. We could have children that grow to be like you that would make us more miserable.
Brad O
There's a big difference in hitting the accelerator for the people or your friends, Bush was hitting the accelerator with a Nitrous boost for Corporate America the few and Obama is hitting it for the better of all mankind!
Silence Knowmore -
you're an idiot. the majority of americans have insurance thus it is probable that the majority of unnecessary ER visits would be on the part of the insured.
however -- this in no way suggests that the ratio of unnecessary ER vistis to uninsured is not higher thus inflating costs.
is Fox News giving out diplomas now? GOP, stick to what you know... talking points. try not to think too much unless you're looking for a laugh.
LMAO!!!
Thanks Ted for helping to screw America one more time.
clearly, it would be impossible for people like you to live with an educated, informed, successful and happy open-minded adult... ignorance and fear is more your style.
:)
do they have insurance against your date drowning you because you are pregnant?
Yeah, thanks 'Teddy': I'm glad you only drowned ONE girl 'cause the bro's wouldn't let ya 'TAP' Marylin M. !!!
My first comment collapse in a long time... Sniff, I'M SO PROUD!!!!
Bartman--
Well done. I just don't know what to say about the folks on this vine that could be so thoughtless, lack compassion for their fellow man, ---partisan. I see the same old baseless commentary from the same group of individual posts. No substance, just hatred.
Christians no doubt. Health care -- such evil. Better we should invade an innocent country and torture people. Better our government should spy on its own people than have health care, like other industrialized nations.
Most powerful nation on earth -- by what measure mean--spirited-?
I will look forward to your thoughtful posts again.
How's the view Ted? Thanks to HCR many of us will be with you soon. Say "Hi" to Mary Jo for us.
MORE SYMBOLISM OVER SUBSTANCE BY THE PROGRESSIVES SEEKING SOCIAL JUSTICE!!!!!!!!
Come on, how utterly repulsive. How long did the Kennedy clan make arrangements for the media to be aware that these "events" would be happening at the gravesite of Ted Kennedy? Vicki Kennedy "marking" her late husbands grave? I don't even want to know HOW she was marking it.
Patrick leaving a note, hand-written of course, to let dad know. Then on a "dreary" Tuesday dozens of schoolchildren and health care advocates paused at the tombstone. Why the hell weren't the kids in school? Who let their kids out of class to go visit a grave? Health care advocates from where? The same ones that got bribes, special deals and subsidies? Was it SEIU doing the advocating?
The "storied" families memory represented with wristbands. Ted Kennedy's ghost walking through a door. You'd think the writers were sobbing as they wrote this melodrama.
I wonder if Mary Jo Kopechnie's family was invited?
I mean, she did give her life so Kennedy could realize his dream.
yea evil corporate America. go get em progressives. By the way who the @!$%# do you think makes all the @!$%# that is made in america. Let me give you a hint it is corporate america. who produces things? Who creates wealth? who employees people? yup thats right corporate america. oh wait i forgot about the guy selling apples at the farmers market. Yes he is making this a better country also.
Get the Point-As for ignorance and fear I ask who is more ignorant those who pass a bill written by lobbyists they haven't read or those who oppose it? Yes I fear the ignorance that is leading this country. I fear the ignorance that is being taught to our children. I and I fear the unchecked ignorance of a congress that spends our grandchildren's money to benefit people that won't work to benefit themselves.
Brad O
Anger anger anger that's it start being like your hero Carl Rove! There's a big difference from most of America's business and those business's that are making money from the lives of American people!
You bring up a man selling apple? What does that have to do with healthcare unless he gets sick?
Try again Mr. Rove and don't be so angry!
USARogue -
bla, bla, bla.
hey, mr. critical think, do me a favor and check my posts for any spelling, grammar or other meaningless errors for our purposes here, will ya?
i know how you wing-nutz like to focus on the important stuff...
LMAO.
ps.
BWHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Josephelk - Do you have anything of value to add, or are you a talking points drone for the Kennedy's??
Porkbevr-I was having grownup conversation until someone started the typical anger game and name calling that many on the (Right) Vine switch to when they no longer can add to the conversation!
Do you mean like adding such great points as say hi to Mary Jo? Try pointing them out!
Bartman-372555:
His dad's job was finished with the last bottle of booze he consumed right after his last lewd act of philandering behavior. And I don't think God has forgiven him for his cruel, heartless treatment of Mary Jo Kopechne and the lesson he didn't learn from that disaster. Why attempt to eulogize Ted Kennedy as if he were a candidate for sainthood as you, the main stream news media, and the every Democrat on Capitol Hill has done since he died? Because in the opinion of any liberal; he's a Democrat, so he's just gotta be a good guy, that's why.
"And on a dreary Tuesday morning, dozens of school children and health care advocates paused at Kennedy's tombstone"
wow....like a made for tv hallmark movie. Obama has the propaganda machine in overdrive, lets dedicate this to a dead man in an effort to link the two so that we can act as if criticism of the bill is criticizing a poor dead man. The ability of this organization to use anyone and anything for it's own personal agenda is sickening. "dozens of schoolchildren"? give us a break. What logical, rational reason do you have for taking schoolchildren to a graveyard because a bill a passed? I'm sure the photos and video clips are just heartwarming. Talk about blatant exploitation....line up for the cameras kids, look sad and pouty, we just ruined your futures more than you're capable of comprehending yet.
And it's all of you who are going to pass judgment on a man who killed another human? I'm off this seed this is turning into a sick roast!
Lets see how many of you will be at the pearly gates one day and will be judged for your sins! A sin is a sin no matter how big or small!
pjam09
I like your style.
It reminds me a lot of,,,,,mine.
LOL!
Well the fat lady is on the stage, but she has not sang yet.
Here you are bartman, please pass me a barf bag, you make me sicker than the elite kennedys.
Get to the Point------
I'm sorry, I don't speak gibberish. I suggest you read my post again because it is you that sounds like the idiot when you agree with what I say by repeating it and then tell me I'm wrong. You just made a diploma from fox news look great. Thanks! By the way, name calling is and always has been the true indicator of intellect. The next best indicator is yelling, so try that next.
My sympathy to the Kennedy's for the loss of Edward just as my sympathy's go to the family of Mary Jo Kopechne that he killed at Chappaquiddick!!! That being said this bill is nothing but a big screw job to the American public and I for one am sooo glad that the states Attorney Generals are doing right by the people and filing the lawsuit against it. Health care companies are already saying that this bill will raise rates because of the way it is written. We need jobs in this country not FORCED HEALTH INSURANCE we cannot afford.
Dear Well meaning Dem/Libs,
We are so glad now that you can have your healthcare...so you can finally get that medical procedure to get your heads out of your anal orifice. When you do finally get your heads out (and what a huge mega sucking sound it would be that it would create a shift in the earths crust that the Haiti earth quake would be minuscule), you will realize that you and your socialist/marxist/communist ideology was, is and will always be wrong. Why did we not help re-write the bill??? How do you have a discussion when you dems have been brainwashed to think like the way YOU do!!!? Which is why the whole bill needed to be started over with none of the people who wrote the Obama "Welcome back to Slavery" Healthcare bill. You preach open mindedness, but do not want to hear about criticism to your master plan to destroy this country. Yes, the healthcare bill is the new slavery for this country - how ironic, after 130 plus years after abolishing slavery.. and from the party who is so into civil rights, yet is willing to destroy everyones elses rights - you dems make me sick (will your healthcare cover that?. And the sad things is you dems are stupid enough to believe your own lies. Look folks - this healthcare bill is like crack cocaine (just like social security and medicare are)- of course "those who benefit" will want to keep it going...until it can't be paid for anymore - then what!?? You dems are so "high" on it you have no clue the damage you are doing. Yes - I feel a little sorry for you - you so claimed educated, progressive, "do what I feel is good for me" (no what is good for the country), "where's my benefits for me-me-me" people -even though it is bad for you and the country and the world. I feel more sorry for my children who will be paying for your mistakes. Yes - I will blame all of you dems/libs and in a few years when this so called healthcare is proven to be the downfall of this country - I hope that all those (everyone in the dem administration and peopel like you) who wanted this treasonous-monstrosity of a bad idea is criminally held responsible for destroying this country. And trial by muslim Shia law would be too easy/nice on them/you - a more painful, and permanent, punishment is deserved - and I will glady be a jury member! And for those who call us, who criticize this "sickening" bill (pun intended) - wing nuts - we are trying to save you idiots from yourselves. Change your thinking now! There is still time - turn away from liberalism.
Trying to glorify an Alcoholic womanizer is not going to make people like this bill!! Nice political move having Kennedy's widow and son at BO's side though.
Further, even if I grant that the ratio is higher for the uninsured, that's a complete non sequitor from the point. Please explain to the "idiot" how insuring the uninsured will then magically reduce unnecessary ER vists? (Which was the original point that I responded to Vicki about) And in doing so, try not to ignore everything that I said in the original post by just making some random point and then celebrating.
I wonder just WHY it is that Republicans choose to HATE health care for their fellow Americans?
Republicans, I will ask you THIS, just what has YOUR PARTY done to reform the health care MESS in this country?? You rag on Kennedy for his mistake 40 years ago, do you ALSO rag on Mark Sanford? Where? When? Tell us....
You were in control of Congress for 10 years -- what did you DO THEN to reform the health care system??? Please tell us what your party did THEN to reform health care? Oh wait, you allowed Blue Cross to raise their rates..... Figures......
The REAL answer is you did NOTHING. Correct??? Yet NOW you whine like babies...
Doobie - what we did then was to keep YOU dems from destroying this country for as long as we could! Too late now - but I will love to be on the jury to convict your dems treason in ruining this country! Healthcare didn't need as much fixing as liberal thinking does!
Doobie and you Dems - there is right and wrong in this world- and you are wrong.
It's not about hating healthcare - it's dem/liberal thinking is wrong to begin with. Period. Dot.
I don't care what the hell your politic is, but how can you can call yourself a Christian and a human being in trashing the dead !! What a bunch of low life.
are u kidding me...............is there no one who they will not use(or dig up) so they can hold hands in a circle and sing aren't we great
Live within your means - do not make others have to pay for YOUR (dems) mistakes. It goes for personal life - so it should be for government. Healthcare is not what the national government was intended to "take care" of - that is a personal/private citizen matter - both to fund or help those in need - not tax people to death to make everything "equal". The purpose of national government was for national security - not the bastardized liberal government this country has now. Know your history to know your future. But history is what dems are trying to change - so they hide the truth on what liberalism is.
every state already has medicaid and if they do not fall in the guidelines, why would it be my job to pay for what someone else needs..
with this thinking does that mean if someone needs a house we all should pay for it? It's called personal responsibility. If you have kids and you dont have insurance get a job that has medical insurance. not skilled enough go back to school (there are lots of pell grants and 'free' money for school) so you can get a better job.
People need to quit standing on a street corner looking for a hand out....use your own hands to make something of your self
Hey cool..someone actually read my comment! Now I'm ready for the big game...where's Pelosi?? Probably hiding behind a fence of Blabocrats,using taxpayers money like it was dialisys,she's gotta be up to 4 infusions a day by now. I need some bait to lure her out into the open for a clean shot of reality and bipartisanship.
Hey Nancy - Was that hammer from the "Whack-A-Taxpayer" game? How'd you make your smile look so big? Still using 10 pound test tied behind your head?
What really is needed is not healthcare reform - it is liberalism reform. Get rid of liberalism and you solve most of this worlds problems.
Thank God Ted is dead. He was not a champion of the average American, he was for Ted only. When he killed Mary Jo he proved to America we should never drive with him. Now Obama has gotten into Ted's car and may meet the same fate (politically) as Mary Jo (physically) met in Ted's car. If you believe in Heaven and Hell you can be sure he is not in Heaven, he is guilty of the deaths of thousands of children and the corruption of the American way. Hopefully America will remember the unAmerican deeds done to America on Sunday.
Doobie/dems- doing nothing was better than "doing" what the dems are "doing". Now the only stock that will go up is for vaseline lubricant because we are all going to get it from behind "healthcare" now. I'd say that what dems are doing is as wrong as two boys...f-ing, but you have become acustomed to that and think that is ok. So instead think of liberalism is actually making us all slaves to the government versus the government working for the people. DEMS GET OUT OF OFFICE before the country is lost forever!
Even if there was a Satan or hell, it's not good enough for a liberal democrat...Satan would not want them.
Silence Knowmore -
did you finally get the "gibberish." LOL. maybe it's english you can't speak? maybe you need some more education. i'm fine, thanks... masters is enough for me. seems your assessment of intelligence is also most certainly erroneous.
if you can't understand it, it must be wrong. LOL.
i addressed your intial errounes point and then moved on... what would be the point of reading further?
have a nice day and don't forget to disrespect the dead on the way out.
Ted is not dead - no need to respect him..his idiotic legacy lives now that the wrong healthcare has been signed into law - no change is better than Mr Hope and Change. Only hope for this country is to drive the dems out of office.
Ted! You can now rest in peace. The job has been done! Thanks for your tireless efforts. RIP.
If the dems had to make the bill so long and bribes so many - it is wrong. Fixing what is wrong in the bill can only be done by trhowing it in the fire to heat the homeless - and with that amount of paper the homeless will have it nice and cozy next winter. Oh wait - that's right - we have global warming too - how insensitive of me to think the homeless will go cold this next winter.
Again - Ted is not dead! The "job" you say he has done is not a "good job" - you need to put the qualifier on what you say. In my mind - he should have been "fired" and only hope that the "fire" in hell from global warming is horrendous. The other qualifier applies to "change" - Obama only said "change", but neglected to say it would be "bad" change.
What a load of stink;
The Kennedy's made their money illegaly, boot legging, prohibition era, ties to illegal cartels....
then, once they had 'theirs', they proclaimed to be for the working man, justice, and civil rights.
The entire TIME, they were drunkards, murderers, drug addicts, and HEAVILY invested in all that was manipulated by the Illegal Federal Reserve; talk about trash talking, and to boot all, WERE SUPPOSED PUBLIC SERVANTS AND IN OFFICE DURING IT ALL!!!!
They knew salesmanship, how to manipulate the masses MOST especially when it came to black vs. white, and capitalized on all. They WERE AND HAVE CONTINUED TO BE as illegal as it comes.
Now, to stoop so low as to tug heart strings over death; to ignore every illegal, immoral, and unethical thing he and his family were involved in for ratings and support of MORE illegal garbage is beyond contempt.
"Change" - watch what you ask for - you just may get it and then not really like it. You poor, ignorant dems/libs.
OHHHH GAWWWD. Didn't you know the shameless corporate media would drag a dead kennedy into this in order to justify this horrible piece or s__— they falsely label "health care reform"?
In a way I suppose it's fitting. Ted was one of the first old fashioned liberals to abandon the Keynesian version of capitalism, which, after WWII created the large prosperous middle class in the U.S.. He fired the first shot for the "Free-market" back lash in 1979 when he led the charge to DE-regulate the airline industry.
That's why we now have commercial passenger pilots in major airlines (or commuters) making 23k a year and applying for food stamps in order to make ends meet. Doesn't that give you a sense of security when your sitting in your seat back in coach taxing down the runway for take-off?
The Kennedy's have generally been a blight on the whole country, from Mussolini loving old Joe Kennedy, the patriarch of the herd to Mattress Jack, who as LBJ said (after Dallas), was running a "murder incorporated" in the Caribbean.
Get to the Point-----
After reading your irrefutable (albeit incoherent) reasoning, I submit to your superior intellect.....I should'nt have tried contending with someone with a master's degree and I apologize. And your right, I must be incapable of understanding it and therefore thinking your wrong, because I certainly can't fiqure out why you have yet to address the issue. But it must be me, it can't be you and I know that because you have a master's degree. But I won't trouble you to condescend from your master's level thinking anymore. I'm done.
Silence Knowmore-
good, the world is now a better place. have a nice night. do i need to restructure these sentences as well? LOL.
Jackjack, I'm with you. Mary Jo Kopechne's death still remains unanswered. We still don't have MM's diary and her death is still a mystery. Where's Jimmy Hoffa's body at? He was a big target of RFK. Then there's William Kennedy Smith and the other Kennedy clan that killed that young girl as a teenager. We all have skeletons on our closet, but not quite like that. Sorry Ted. The Lord doesn't cut any deals. I should add arbyw with Jack jack. That's atleast 3 of us.
Point---
With that sharp wit and upbeat attitude, don't worry, you should be moving out of your mom's house anytime now! LOL!!!
I did not agree with this bill. Nonetheless, I am very touched by this gesture. It moves me to tears.
Get to the Point
Maybe you would not post such drivel if you received a masters degree from a major university like I did. Because this type of comment is so childish, and because I want to be an example, I refuse to post silliness like this. Do you really have a masters degree? I wonder about that. It seems to me that your arguments could have a little more beef.
NONETHELESS, I JUST CHANGED MY MIND ABOUT HEART WARMING GESTURE - I had no clue that they brought a bunch of school kids to the grave too. I thought it was just Kennedy's son. Why in the world do kids want to see a bunch of graves? I plan on being cremated so would my urn be shown? The Kennedys have no boundaries.
The Kennedy family fortune started when Joseph Sr. was a Rum Runners during the Prohibition, bringing in alcohol from Canada was very illegal and similar to a drug lord today. Then Joseph Sr. went on to be the Ambassador to Great Britain during WW2 until he was kicked out for dealing in the Black Market. What a great group of people we look up to and idolize. No wonder the country is F'd up.
I may be a little unwilling to take this story at face value...if this really did happen it was constructed for a photo op and nothing more. You would think something this personal would be a private matter.
Kennedy's faith (at least he was reported to be a Roman Catholic) would have told him that upon death and the soul passing into heaven perfect knowledge is acquired. On the other hand, if he didn't go to heaven then maybe the note was a good decision, it may be the only way he finds out about health insurance reform in the US. Yeah, it probably was a good idea to leave the note, since he's probably not looking down, huh. My bad.
What you libs don't get is that those of us who think for ourselves do believe in health care reform. We just don't like the fascists who want to shove it down our throats, like Nancy Pelosi. If this is such a great program they have constructed, why all the terrorist tactics to get it passed. Why did they not do what Obama promised - make it open and transparent. It's just another tax to create a Marxist system. Thanks, libs. You'll get yours. What goes around comes around.
dad, is it true; is it Hot in Hell ??..I'm sure glad, I did Not Live like you.......
Ray-1162980 "Thank God Ted is dead. He was not a champion of the average American, he was for Ted only. When he killed Mary Jo he proved to America we should never drive with him. Now Obama has gotten into Ted's car and may meet the same fate (politically) as Mary Jo (physically) met in Ted's car. If you believe in Heaven and Hell you can be sure he is not in Heaven, he is guilty of the deaths of thousands of children and the corruption of the American way. Hopefully America will remember the unAmerican deeds done to America on Sunday"
You are so right; MaryJo was alive when he left her and her baby while he went home to bed! The man was a murderer and a drunk! Ted Kennedy made millions from back door deals and philandering where ever and whenever he could. He is the scum of the Kennedy clan.
I know this as I lived there and know some of the family members. It just goes to show some of you people, the rules are different for the rich, as the rest of us would still be in jail for that or under current law "death row" for 2 murders.
Brad O'Neill
China makes everything in America. Are you even aware of what the requirements are for slapping that MADE IN AMERICA label on your product. You have to assemble it here THAT'S IT. Made in China assembled in America is what the label should say.
What about Mary Jo's well-being? Does that matter? He should have never been allowed to serve in the US Senate after that day.
Bartman: Don't speak to God on my behalf. Thank you.
orbust, Mama Sue, and Porkbevr, you're each suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor. In Porkbevr's case, repeatedly. Cut it out.
I agree with you Bartman. I, like you, have always worked. I steered clear of welfare by working two and three jobs to raise my kids, and do have a supportive family to help me out. not everyone has a family to help them. this country is so selfish and consumed with "things" so instead of griping that someone who does not have the advantages as you may actually get to have some health care when they are sick (as you are driving your environmentally disasterous Hummer because obviously you will be traveling to the arctic tundra soon) remember that some people have lost everything in this economy today. some never had anything to begin with. and yes, some are mooches who suck us hardworkers dry. but i hate the thought of denying the majority of good hard working folks for the minority of those who are simply dregs of society. health care for all shouldn't even be an issue, it should just be, and should have always been. or maybe to some of you its better for you to see the money go to big corporations or lobbyists. sad. Bartman, these people will never understand, until Heaven forbid a tragedy befalls them and they lose everything, then come crying with their hands out. oh and by the way aaronsomething or other, you were kidding right? you do know ted actually is dead, right? otherwise that was a real dumb comment.
Let me say this OKCdawn:
I do not have health insurance and do understand the need for reform, not a Mandate. This legislation has nothing in it to lower costs, insure quality care, accessibility and more primary care providers, as we currently do not have nearly enough to help. So basically, we have a mandate and zero changes for the existing problems.
Do you understand that is the opposition?
For the first time,Ted is looking up to the people.
When Obama sat to sign the bill, Patrick and Vicki Kennedy stood behind him. Finally, Ted Kennedy's dream became the law of the land.
...and then in typical Kennedy fashion, they all got roaring drunk.
While I think it's kind of early for jokes like that, I was going to comment on that phrase from the article. I was completely unaware that his dream was to pass a bill SO BAD that the Democrats had to have backroom deals with other Democrats to buy votes needed even when in a supermajority.
Clicker - you're right. They all got roaring drunk and then drove a nation into the river and left them to drown. Sounds familiar, huh?
"Dad, we finished your dream, we just raped every woman (and man for that matter) in the country"
Remember in November.
Captain Marvelous - you are such a foking loser. thanks. LOL.
Patches Kennedy thinks his dead uncle can read notes on his grave.....what a cheap, moronic sideshow Cantebury has become.....................
Another great example of: 1) lack of reading comprehension; 2) lack of knowledge of who people are. Patrick (not Patches) Kennedy is Ted's SON, not his nephew.
Danelover--
Really? And Christians listen to talking snakes and eat their god every Sunday, after his life is sacrificed again on an altar. Then they worship his mother.
OK, sentimental v barbaric, make your choice?
Vickie K. - How would you know? you are the step-mom and they are all inbred.
Wonder what Joan's doing today.
"...the unfinished business is done." Did the Kennedys hire the mob to finish off the rest of the Kopechne clan?
This post has 11 thumbs up... and has been collapsed by the communuity ? (!!) Now that is some kind of censorship!
Sucks, doesn't it? I don't understand how the decision is made, but some benign posts get collapsed and some really offensive posts stay up.........
Mine had 19 when they collapsed it. What's really funny is it is among the least offensive on the whole vine (but I guess the truth hurts)!!
It says "collapsed by the community",kinda like the way reform law was voted for. I can handle my heatlh care and offensive,vulgar and even thougthful opposing comments. Its difficut enough making my own way,why does someone feel the need to try and stick a pacifier in my mouth?
What's next,Tipper Gore going to start having library books rated like movies or music?
The whole kennedy bunch are nothing but low life losers. Good riddens to all of them. Their name should be stricken as if they never existed. May they never rest in peace.
Why the indictment of the whole Kennedy bunch? I don't get it.
because they all suck every last one. teddy boy did @!$%# for the working class.
let's see, JFK appointed his own brother to be Attorney General (should be illegal!), RFK slept with JFK's widow before JFK's body was cold, Ted was responsible for Mary Jo Kopechne's death (and tried, at first, to conceal his involvement), then there was Ted's nephew, William Kennedy Smith, charged with raping his assistant, another nephew, Michael Skakel, who budgened a poor young girl to death with a golf club, there was Ted's DUI in Palm Beach... the Dad was a rumrunner- equivalent to a drug lord today (hey, it was illegal)... I say, let them all rest in peace.
Good one.
Needajob - beautiful!
txsecede, please DO!! We don't need you COWARDS!!!!
There's a whole lot of working class people in Massachusetts that would be more than happy to argue this point with you.
Needajob, you should get a job as a screenwriter - since everything in your post is total fiction.
to all the haters. it is absolutely pathetic to watch so many sink lower, and lower, and lower... sickening. how you do look at yourself. how revolting can one be. these mean spirited comments come from a very dark place. perhaps the darkest. how sad to be you. i'm really very sorry for anyone who knows you... peace.
txsecede,
...the age old "I don't like this/them so lets go and change history".
/sigh
Vicky, from everything I've read, Kennedy drove off a bridge and abandon Mary Jo in his vehicle. He left her for fish food. Not a hero everyone makes him out to be. I'd rather be a simple American able to voice my opinion than a pathetic rich loser like the Kennedy's. All the money in the world can't make you a good person or happy. I have morals which is more than I can say for most of our Representatives. It's a shame politics has gotten so out of hand. Read more of my post and you'll see, I do my homework and am probably accurate 95+% of the time.
This bill does for America what Chappaquiddick did for Mary Jo Kopechne, I'm sure Ted would enjoy celebrating getting away with another crime, just as his cronies are doing.
All you right wing scumbags are past stupid you are sick!
I should have written that above but the hypocrisy got to me!
As right wing scum spit on and screamed N- - - -R at a true American Hero like Rep. John Lewis the right applauded. As they screamed Homophobic Trash at Rep. Barney Frank they applauded. Then these people have the nerve to write all of this hideous stuff about a son placing a note on his dead fathers grave, self righteousness at it's worst!
The comments about Kennedy I've been reading here appear rather mild compared to the crude and rude 'hope you die' comments made when Rush was in the hospital recently. Just an observation.
Left Wing scum posing as real Americans yelled @!$%# and spit. A Left Wing scumbag posing as a real American cally Barny-Boy a faggot. Howeverr, a Democrat Congressman called several million Americans, @!$%#s (teabaggers) on the floor of Congress. No outrage-I'm not surprised.
You people are all mad and screaming because of the fact that the healthcare bill is past and it will stay like this i am not worried about that,It will not be a perfect bill ,but it will all work out in future years to a Universal health plan like they have in many other countries in the world,we are just 50 years behind in taking care for all our citizen.We stop making foreighn wars in countries thousands of miles away from home and waste our tax money,now we are going to use that money for our health and for all Americans,and that is not wasted money. Several years from now when this healthplan really start working people start to find out that this really works and will change their mind about it,yes you pay for this, it's not a hand out,you work and pay for it while working, In the countries were they have these healthcare plans people are very happy and go to the doctor or hospital and never have to worry how to pay the bill.I know it first hand ,working in Europe for many years payed my dues in that system and never had to pay the doctor or hospital bills. So don't listen to all that negative stuff that flies around it is a blessing when you get sick and not have to worry that you might lose your house.
Tyler/Newsvine
Maybe you should deny access to the people who collapse other people's comments for no good reason. I've read some of the collapsed comments on this board and they are tame.
I am tired of people censoring others. This is a free country and we have freedom of speech to the extent we are not inciting a riot or libeling/slandering someone.
I think you should deny access to people who decide that other people's opinions don't count.
Barry, the plan has not been implemented and its already in financial trouble. Obama has pointed to transfer pricing as a cost issue, that people who do not have insurance are using the ERs across American like most of us use a medicine chest in the bathroom.
Please understand, what they did was add 32 million people to the insurance rolls, that does not include the 11-12 million that were left behind and never covered by this plan. It also does not include illegals, who have been using the ERs to obtain band aids. Now added to this are the seniors, the cuts to medicare will result in many doctors unable to treat medicare and medicaid patients plus you take away Medicare Advantage, and when 25-30 million seniors who are affected can't pay their medical bills, the transfer pricing continues. So net net, we spent nearly $940 billion (or 2 trillion) and we have roughly the same problem we had before with the cost of health care, perhaps more, since the seniors will likely have more medical problems and will be using the ER more for what should have been covered and paid for by medicare.
spg64-1292127, you're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
6.4 deleted, needajob-1524979 copypasting the 'John Kerry is a saint' chain email.
Don't.
Barely on topic, too.
Where did I ever get the idea that we would see any childish, cruel, tasteless rude comments from the right? After all, according to them, that only comes from the left. Repeat after me, kids..."I'm rubber and you're glue...."
I changed my mind. I hope God does not forgive you!
some liberals, like myself, see the Kennedy clan as an embarassment. How is it (for example) that Gary Hart's Presidential campaign ended with news of his affair, while JFK carried on publicly with countless bimbos (sorry Marilyn) while in office? How is it that Ted never went to prison? liberal America derserves better than the Kennedys.
Well said, Bartman. Our continued amazement at the unbridled hate and ignorance of the right just reflects our continued hope in the innate goodness of Man. Unfortunately, we just don't see it in the witless frothing of many of the base postings on the Web. Their disgusting, self-centered view of the world can't understand or empathize with those less fortunate than themselves - although in their Creator's eyes their blackness of heart , soul and mind make them the truly "less fortunate."
ya ok raider! teddy deserves to go to heaven for murdering a young woman! you @!$%#ing Hippocrates
Better said arbyw!! The Kennedy clan has demonstrated some of the worst behavior in U.S. political history!! I'll give JFK,jr. some credit for living a more honest (if short) life than most of them, but the majority of Kennedys have been involved with shady dealers or are shady dealers themselves!! As for raider,watch and see the bull$h*t that will commence starting next January regarding health care. By the time the 2016 election comes around there will be another full fledged health care "crisis". The Democrats answer? The beloved single pay system!!!! That's the end that justifies the shady means that brought us health care "reform"!!
Your right that there is too much hatred and ignorance, but it is done by both sides. Ted Kennedy was a Statesman, he would be embarrased by how this was passed with Democrats voting against the bill. It shows what a bad bill it is. The left likes to claim the civil rights bill as victory, but the voting record of the House and the Senate show that Republicans had a higher voting percentage than the Democrats. There was nothing but partisanship and lying done by the the leaders.
I am hopeful that the Supreme Court will eventually strike down this garbage of a payoff bill. How many payoffs did it take to get this passed even though most of America doesn't want it passed? And yet they celebrate the eventual bankruptcy of the United States since there is no way to raise enough money to pay for this garbage. Even though they say it is balanced they forget to mention that it is 6 years of revenue covers 4 years of expenses and the expenses only get worse after the 10 year period they mention. It is nothing but corruption.
This is a weird compliment.
Yeah, like when Cheney was in the hospital recently with heart troubles and every liberal writing in wishing he'd die. Bleeding hearts... right.
raider64 "Our continued amazement at the unbridled hate and ignorance of the right just reflects our continued hope in the innate goodness of Man. Unfortunately, we just don't see it in the witless frothing of many of the base postings on the Web. Their disgusting, self-centered view of the world can't understand or empathize with those less fortunate than themselves -"
A little full of yourself there aren't you, raider?? I bet you've written your own epitaph for your stone since the engraver probably isn't aware how grand and noble a person you are....... or were...
Do you always speak in the "royal" third person??
And who are you to judge? Unless you've led a perfect life, I don't think you have ANY place to be judging that man.
I'd say anyone who reads the news can judge this one, Lou.
Thanks, Tyler. I must have been a doctor in Hellenic times! And Porkbevr is right - I am full up to the top with the hypocritical prattle from the right on every issue where they switch from position to position to satisfy their over-burdened egos. Don't like government programs? Give up your mortgage deduction and child-care credits. Don't like socialized medicine? Get rid of the VA and send our vets into the merciful arms of the health insurers. Your solutions? You have none. You tear America and her democracy down because why? The Republican record of tax cuts and deficit spending? Worthless wars that kill needlessly on both sides? Increases in poverty, abortions and foreclosures all on Republican watches? And the biggest attack on American soil since Pearl Harbor. If you think Teddy's in Hell I suggest getting fitted for your own asbestos underwear because supporters of America's GOP can expect a deeper and hotter resting place.
Tyler - How can you read these posts each day and not crack up laughing at the lunacy from the left and right?
I'll bet you're writing a book........
Tyler, I would love to try your job for a day. That'd be a blast!
I suggest getting fitted for your own asbestos underwear because supporters of America's GOP can expect a deeper and hotter resting place.
Bermuda?
Global warming ??
It's to bad I wasn't the son of a bootlegger and bought my way into American politics. If any of us on the vine did what Ted Kennedy did(got drunk, drove my car off a bridge, killed a young co-ed, swam to shore, disappeared for a few days, had daddy cover my ass and lied to the police) We would all be in prison. I saw a bumper sticker once(hanging over the fryer at Hooter's) that said "Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my gun". The truth shall set you free.
Barney Frank's crotch?
Ftman, Oops, I mean Bartman. Let's see, "I'm rubber and you're glue". Sounds just like a five year old.
You know, people might take your posts more seriously if you worked on your spelling and language skills. The word is "hypocrites". Hippocrates was the person who created the Hippocratic oath that doctors take.
Fred,
The "worst behavior in politics"???
How about these precious GOP classics:
Ronnie Reagan beating his kids. Ronnie and Nancy Reagan signing an illegal real estate agreement that they would never sell their house to a minority. Ronnie Reagan accused of raping a woman while he was an actor. Ronnie Reagan dodging the draft to further his acting career in WWII. Ronnie Reagan selling weapons to Iran to buy drugs from Contras to sell drugs to Blacks in L.A. and NYC in the form of crack, then taking those profits and giving some back to the Contras and keeping some for himself and his minions. Ronnie Reagan...never mind, too many. Let's jump to...
George Bush 41. Cheated on his wife while serving as president, as outed by - incredibly - Linda Tripp. His wife beat their son, George 43. She is the illegitimate love-child of famed illustrator/infamous Satanist/accused-of-murder Allister Crowley. (Compare their photos. Her mom lived with Crowley in Paris when she got pregnant and then returned homoe to her husband.) Arranged Iran-Contra scandal with October Surprise, coaxing Iranians to continue holding American hostages until after the 1980 election, after Carter had already negotiated a release for before the election. Member of Skull and Bones. Is seen suspiciously photographed on the steps of the Texas Book Depository on November 22, 1963, shortly after Kennedy's assassination, even though he was a CIA agent stationed in Florida. No official explanation is given. Is an active business partner with the Bin Laden family and had reportedly been in Osama's company while Osama was wanted for the Cole Bombing. Been involved in a myriad of shady and/or unethical business ventures, such as the Carlisle Group.
Prescott Bush, father of George Bush 41. Caught buying $50 million in Nazi war bonds in 1943 during the war against Nazi Germany, through his own savings and loan, while he was a U.S. Senator. Should have been shot as a traitor, but he was also in the Skull and Bones, so...
George Bush 43. Beat his wife. Accused multiple times of raping women. Did coke. Many DUIs quashed. Branded a resisting fraternity pledge with a scalding fireplace poker while at Yale. Cut deal with Saudi Royal Family to sell his company them to cover-up his insider trading of selling stock as his company was folding, in exchange for untold return favors. Draft dodger who was given a position on a local GOP election in Alabama by one of his dad's political allies in that state. Trashed said friend's rental house, leaving beers cans, urine stains and human feces spread throughout the house. Refused to pay the $10,000 in damages. Was AOL from his Texas Air National Guard air base during this period.
Neil Bush, son of George Bush 41. A principal engineer of the Savings and Loan Crisis. Largest U.S. scandal to it's date. Created cash-out mortgage loans on commercial properties at many times the actual property values in order to defraud the S&L's. Money was used by his politically conservative accomplices to buy news media companies, such as AM radio stations (the dawning of Rush), newspapers and eventually TV stations. Reagan facilitated this consolidation of conservative news media ownership by tossing the law that required corporations or individuals could own only one AM station, one FM station and one TV station per media market. The S&L scam was covered-up unsuccessfully by John McCain, but few citizens today are yet aware of what was done with the money.
John McCain. (see above paragraph). Set fire to the U.S.S. Forrestal with a practical joke of wet-starting his Navy fighter jet, which in turn set-off the missiles on a jet behind his jet, with those missiles hitting a jet in front of his jet. The "hero" promptly dropped his bomb payload on the deck to avoid the bombs blowing him up. They instead rolled into the fire and blew up. More than 130 died, and more than 170 seriously burned, while McCain heroically hid in the officer's lounge below deck and watched the whole on closed circuit TV the episode develop, with most of the ships crew helping in some way to fight the fires. Crashed three Navy planes and had a fourth shot down when he rejected standard operating procedure of missile avoidance maneuvers when his craft was targeted by SAMs, to instead continue his bombing run on a North Vietnamese power station so he could gain hero status for a life in politics. After being captured, he made 37 radio broadcasts denouncing the U.S., freely and promptly offering up to his captors that he was the son of THE rear admiral of the war theater, in hopes of getting preferential treatment, which he did by his third week in captivity. While POWs often broadcast or wrote confessions, 37 broadcasts was unprecedented and considered by his peers to be cowardly. Was widely despised by his peers, before, during and after the war. Cheated on his first wife after he discoveredupon his release that she was horribly disfigured in a car accidentwhile he was a POW. Is reported by his own staff to call his current wife a, "c*nt". Divorced his first wife to marry her shortly after said divorce, as he was already deeply involved with her.
I wrote a ton, so I won't bother with grammatical corrections. I could write for days on the subject of immoral, unethical and illegal actions of GOP leaders, as I have a solid history background and journalism degree. Name any GOP past and present leaders. I can get you the nastiest dirt on just about all of them. Lott? Dole? Larry King (not the TV host)? Gingrich? Ask me. Just ask me.
So stuff it when you pass judgment on the Kennedy's. They are vilified not for things they allegedly did to people, but by the Right for the things they did forthe people. Nobody's perfect. No family is perfect. But the GOP families of power are a long way from comparing favorably to the Kennedy's when it comes to public service and good.
WOw you are full of it!!
But I guess when you do not work...you have lots of time to type! Enjoy your new free health care!
wathing you GOP freaks go crazy is funny as hell LOL.
If you can provide documentation Eidam than holy @!$%#!
HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!! Thanks Chris!! Just when I thought the 9/11 conspiracy theorists were the biggest losers to ever swing on the vine, you come up with an over the top AND I MEAN OVER THE TOP BUNCH OF BULL$H*T that surpasses them all!!! I won't get into all of them because I don't have all night but let me get this straight: John McCain escaped from a North Vietnamese prison, got on board the USS Forrestal (CV-59) caused the fire that almost sank the ship and then went back into the VC prison?? And George "H.W." Bush was the "man on the grassy knoll" (I've said that one before joking but someone took it seriously!!!) despite the fact that there has never been a more straight laced supporter of our country. I voted for Ross Perot in '92 because I thought H.W. was stuck in the '50's but I guess it was '63,huh? Like H.W. or not the truth is he is a decent man who was very much the GOP version of Jimmah Cartah!!! Thanks for the laughs though. Fact is you have to go Aesop's Fables to counter the TRUE AND HISTORICALLY DOCUMENTED exploits of the Kennedy clan!!!
Wow I just got schooled. It seems John was on the Forest Fire! I was unaware of that. I'm still far from convinced that he was the cause of the fire. Convenient for far left fanatics to latch onto,though! According to the official statements John McCain's plane was one struck by the missile that misfired. The misfire occurred from an F-4 Phantom, McCain flew an A-4 Skyhawk. Nice try Chris. Still,it's always good to read a little first class fiction!! BTW McCain was severely burned so I doubt he was "hiding in the officer's mess"!!
Fred,
I am not sure about McCain and the fire, but he was right on the money about pretty much everything else!
omfg.... your dad didnt care about you!!!!!
yeah im cooking steaks cuz the hate for daddy is so hot!!!
Perhaps the Kennedy clan - in their infinite wisdom and unlimited resources - can explain to the rest of us how we are supposed to PAY for this plan? Maybe Teddy can send us messages from the great beyond.....or maybe they plan to leave their wealth to the U. S. government, to be used to cover some of the cost.
It's easy. There's a pile of IOUs in the Social Security and Medicaid vaults that can just be picked up and carried over. Ta-da! Instant millions!
I do not think that they let you send messages from Hell! Becides him and his brothers are chasing tail!!!!
I almost threw up while reading the story. How did media become aware of the note left on grave? Are they sending out their "investigative reporters" to cemetaries now? Or did Obama and Co. feel this should be "leaked" to the media because they thought it was such a great touchy, feely story?
Too bad Ted won't be around to help pay for it. Oh, BTW, I heard he's been clean an sober for over 90 days. I recently visited the Museum in Dealy Plaza in Dallas, and as usual it smelled of Kennedy idolization, sponsored as it was by the Kennedy Library. No mention of how father Joseph got his millions, the same way Al Capone got his, by criminal activity called bootlegging.
11 deleted, Fred-506366 calling out other Viners as 'pea brains'. You're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor. Don't grenade-troll.
Kennedy stuff always gets so reactionary. There's not a lot to pick apart in this article.
Muddrake - I am not disputing your post - thought I'd just draw a parallel - Prohibition(which did build the Kennedy wealth) was recognized as one of the most ignorant pieces of legislation ever written - based on pure emotion and championed as "for the good of the country" and oh how high and mighty were the praises for it ... what happened next of course is common knowledge ... and by god if it hasn't been done it again ... those gloating bastards standing around Obama as if they themselves have moved heaven itself praising each other for in someway saving a somewhat vague victim - except those positively identifiable as on the dole ... a kind of neo-victorian righteousness proclaiming : "now the nation is saved" ... so who will be the Joe Kennedy of this age sure as hell there will be one .... this is to sweet a pot to pass up, until it becomes sickeningly obvious after much suffering and creating criminals out of otherwise good citizens and treachery and deceit and corruption the damn thing should be repealed !!!
Bart
Just as he forgave you for that little bridge incident where you took off like a cat with turpintine up his a$$.
The kennedy's need to keep their "drama" lives outta our government. I could care less if TED is happy about the healthcare. He doesn't have to deal with it...he's dead already! We're all screwed...Thanks kennedy's...you've got enough $ to keep going...some of us don't!
Boo friggin hoo. I've got a note for my dad too. "I've got to move back in since I lost my job."
how do you know we are republicans... maybe we hate the kennedys
Take a number...
Our friends on the left can't help the way they think or what they believe, it's a mental condition. when your full of hate for everything America stands for, act on this hate by burning suv's and driving nails into tree's to injure those cutting them down. Let's not forget biting a man's finger off at a protest rally, good union folk bused in to beat a man selling t-shirt's and how many other thing's our fellow citizens on the left do to show us all what kind of people they really are. For every example they say show's what kind of people we are we can counter with twice as many for them. In the end all we have to do is wait and see who is right, I bet the economy will continue to fall and every "fix" by the left will make things worse.
Dad, it's done....
And, Teddy responded, "we finally destroyed the constitution?"
He also responded, "What's on the lunch buffet?"
I can only shake my head in amazement at the ignorance, hate, and mean heartedness being proudly being paraded here.
Don't let me stop you. Go on, moron.
open bar?
only if the lobbiers are pay for it!!
Very poignant. I hope this Bill is one that Sen. Kennedy would have approved of. It may not be the perfect time in American history to take on the additional debt, but since this nation has spent billions and billions of dollars for strangers overseas (whether it's nation building, fighting wars, helping other countries after catastrophies, etc.) I just guess it's time we spent money on ourselves.
I'm going to be ill.
I guess it's too bad it's chinese money we'll be spending, huh, Barb???
They already own the USA. Have to start speaking Chinese
Gee "Stop". You must belong to the party of "NO".  I also would guess you are also an Evangelical Christian. Not everyone in need is a deadbeat. There are hard working people who don't have health care. What happened to caring for the less fortunate? I gather you've never been there. Too bad; you have no idea what you have missed.Â
Party of NO. How....original. Then throwing in a Christian bash. Nice one. You should look into at least what the teachings are if you're going to finish the sentence with something completely opposite of what you accused them of though. You CAN care for the less fortunate WITHOUT Obama MAKING you do it. Unfortunately, now there will be less $$ to donate to the worthwhile causes like that after Uncle Sam takes a bigger chunk from those "less fortunate" that you're going to rob to pay for others expenses.
Norm...everyone has healthcare, it's illegal to be denied. Whether you're rich, poor,unisured or Illegal. Please dispel that myth from your mind.
I'm not an Evangelical Christian, but I do know many liberals who refuse to give to any charities because they already feel they give so much in taxes to social programs. I came from a huge, extremely democratic family...I know from where I speak. Their twisted logic brings on seizures.
Why cant you people see that this is creating the less fortunate. Not providing for them. If your gonna make such statements I wish you'd get specific about exactly who in this bill is being helped and how. And if you say 32 million more people, likes its some sort of great miracle to assist 5% of the population and deprave the other 90% i will have to forgive you. Cause im a christian. =)
Incorrect. The only people that are not allowed to deny healthcare are emergency rooms. Any doctor can refuse to treat someone who doesn't have insurance. What that leads to is people using the ERs as primary care facilities, or failing to get medical care until they're seriously ill - both of which lead to higher costs. So YOU'RE the one who needs to dispel the myth.
This is SICK....when will they let this man REST IN PEACE and STOP USING HIM for their agenda? Using a dead person to get people emotional is a sick ploy.
What they did is NOTHING to be PROUD of....but of course, Michelle Obama is probably "proud of her country" ONCE more....that would make TWICE NOW !!! ??? WOW !!!
Vickie.....they arent pushing the POINT that others pay for the health care....THEY ARE SAYING PEOPLE ARE DYING IN THE STREETS CAUSE THEY DONT HAVE ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE.....That is their MAIN point....AND THAT IS A LIE.....THEY ARENT.....
We will be PAYING MORE to cover them ALL DAILY than we would them going to an ER a few times a year......EVEN THOUGH... it IS expensive.....NOT EVERYONE LIVES IN ER OR STAYS SICK......but IF they have FREE coverage....they WILL BE LIVING THERE.....HEY WHY NOT? ITS FREE AND A "RIGHT" NOW...... ? THEY WILL GO MORE.....NOT LESS.....
IF they have to pay ONE DIME.....THEY WILL GO MORE cause they are being FORCED TO BUY A PLAN AND THEY FEEL ENTITLED TO ALL THE CARE THEY CAN POSSIBLY GET.....EVEN IF ITS A PAPER CUT OR RUNNY NOSE......CAUSE THEY ARE MAD THEY WERE FORCED TO BUY IT.... see how this works? THEY WILL WANT TO MAKE SURE.....They get their MONEYS WORTH !!!!
Additionally EVERYONE WITH PRIVATE COVERAGE will be running to the doctors WHILE THEY STILL CAN and being checked A TO Z .....Just in case.....before this evil socialist plan begins.....
I heard they didnt actually bury Kennedy.....I heard the hearse just drove off a bridge.....Just sayin lol :) I dont normally "disrespect" the dead....however.....when their ideas and policies seek to CONTROL my health care and possibly my life or death.....its GETS PERSONAL and I go into "survival mode"......that is how I roll.....
Ted Kennedy was a murderer and drunk that reached out from the grave to slap his "Beloved MA" across the face one more time. May he rot in HELL!
Stop the Statists - You're ignorant! I really hope you are never unfortunate enough to lose your job through no fault of your own. The people who have always had healthcare through their employers are now unemployed and without healthcare. And the children and seniors without insurance are not too lazy to work -- THEY CAN"T WORK. We're not talking about welfare recipients here, we're talking about middle class Americans. It makes my skin crawl that everyone is so unwilling to help others in their community....but you know what? Karma is a funny thing.....
Dad, it's done.....
referring to Teddy's last bottle of Chivas....
Oh, thankyou.. that was funny.
PERFECT comment!
You are one sick individual...no respect for the dead. Must be a republican
The note would have been more believable had it been addressed to The Press, since that's what it was - a play for media attention.
Watch Out for our next president - George Bush Jr. You remember him, Jeb's son, and he gave an unforgettable speech in 2007 ?
George Bush Jr. is the guy to watch. Sorry Jeb, but you're man enough to not have your feelings hurt by being passed over, especially when your son will carry the legacy.
Now say it with me....
George Bush Jr. !
Gag me. Why did this "son" not offer the Kennedy Fortune to the poor to purchase health insurance? You know, the Kennedy fortune that was garnered off the backs off the working poor in America in the 1900's. Why not give it back to the poor from whom you stole it? And by the way, quit acting like a jackass in the House Chamber...........you are embarrassing your family name!
goodbye and good riddance ......
How much more of a piece of crap do you have to be....
and they still have the wool pulled over a few ignorant souls eyes......
Yawn! Wah Wah !! Poor Dead Kennedy's!!!!But Obama makes them look like Saints!!
I absolutely agree. You know that by today's standards JFK and RFK would be considered Republicans.
I wonder if he left a note on Mary Jo Kopechne's grave too? Maybe something like "Sorry. See ya around."
Did he go to Che's grave in Cuba and leave him a note as well? I'm sure he would be pleased that the hated Capitalist Americans have finally elected a brother Marxist.
I think once people see the benefits of this health care bill as the economy continues to improve, Republicans will have to STFU and start licking their wounds ... although they'll probably just find something else to complain and be fearful about. What a bunch of useless cry babies.
If the Republican mantra continues to be "No Way," perhaps the Democratic one should be "Go Away." Has Rush Limbaugh booked his flight out of the country yet? (I doubt any other country would have him.)
And to all you Kennedy bashers, grow some Christian values and live by them.
And thanks for the Christian values lecture grandall. The party of baby murderers must make you proud huh? STFU and stop being such a hypocrite. Oh yeah, Im sure you weep for Mary Jo Kopechne every day too don't you? Your boy Ted killed her back in 1969. You were probably not around then. Moron.
I am a Democrat who feels the same way about the POS HCR and boozer Kennedy
JoggerBill ... what grade did you complete? 3 maybe? We all make mistakes and who the hell are you to judge? Women's reproductive rights are between a woman and her God or higher power. You have no right to impose your beliefs on another person, particularly since I doubt you have a uterus. Moron.
God knows the Kennedy way is not the christian way!
The only fear mongers in DC are Democrats. (See all those people with more money than you?! They're EVIL!! They want to destroy poor people from the face of the Earth! They have money YOU should be ENTITLED to have!! Hell, they've probably done nothing to earn any of it, too! They were probably BORN into it! WE can get it for you... if you just vote for us....) I can't stand all the losers out there living by the mantra "It's MY money and I want it NOW!" lol :P I live paycheck to paycheck. More than half of what I net goes to rent. More than 25% of my gross goes to the government. You'd think I'd be a big Obama supporter. I probably would be if I'd never learned to think for myself and OUTSIDE of myself.
"Mistakes?" Sure. we all kill someone along the way don't we? At least you can spell correctly so I will give you that much. Your line of logic illustrates that you are a young product of leftist teachers and have lttle true life experience. Your superficial indifference to life also illustrates that you are likely shun the teachings of God. You aren't especially proud of your country and have little invested in it and think that the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many when it is politically expedient. If you live long enough, you will outgrow3 the childish selfishness that defines you. May God have mercy on your soul dear little girl.
Grandall - by Christian values, do you mean the same Christian values that Ted Kennedy exemplified? He was such a great example of care and compassion for others - except for that Kopechne gal that he murdered. But, yah, otherwise he was such a good guy.
Last time I checked the Kennedy's were all church-going Catholics/Christians. And I'm sure Ted Kennedy regretted the Chappaquiddick incident his entire life. And that didn't prevent the Mass. electorate from keeping him in the Senate for 47 years.
These anti-Kennedy rants against the former Senator and health care make me ashamed to be an American.
Grandall - Don't expect human behavior from the excrement posting above. Christian values aren't goals to these fools - they're tools to be used and discarded at will. Laura Bush killed her ex in a car crash when she was seventeen - I bet the right brings it up every day. And maybe we can talk about "dry drunk" W. who sentenced hundreds of thousands to death with his lies about WMD. But he was a "good" Christian, too.
Grandall - you suffer from the same illness as Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Emanual, Farrakhan, etc. - you are ashamed to be an American. Pick yourself up by your friggin' boot straps. Or, is that even possible for a libbie to do without an entitlement program?
+1 grandall
grandall "These anti-Kennedy rants against the former Senator and health care make me ashamed to be an American"
Michelle Obammy, is that you??
Raider, you are a riot. Re-read your post, then come back and lecture us all about Christian values...
grandall - your the type that needs your hand held your whole life. You can't even run your own life. It sounds like you need the big government to tell you when to take a crap.
These nonsensical comments and arguments defy logic and are not worthy of further commentary. They are obviously the rants of the "losers" on this issue who will have to suck it up and live with it. There may even come a time in your lives when you'll thank God and President Obama that there was health care reform, such as it is.
Do yourselves a favor and stop watching Fox Noise as your only source of perspective. Go back to school and takes some civics classes so you'll realize the US government is simply not structured to EVER become a Socialist autocracy. Go to church and pray for yourselves ... I'm sure the country will be just fine.
@ grandall and raider64 - PERFECTLY stated...
Most of the idiots spewing their crap all over this thread, are nothing more than wanna-be do'ers doing absolutely nothing for their country. They claim to be Christians and Patriots, but most of them look down their noses at everyone around them who doesn't look, think act, talk and walk like they do.
Here's what their Bible has to say about them: 1 John 3:15 Whosoever hates his brother is a murderer: and you know that no murderer has eternal life.
Since they claim Mr. Kennedy is a murderer, I guess they'll be joining him in the fires of Hell? Awesome.
(I am a Christian)
When you don't have an arguement, declare victory and say "it's time to move on" Right, grandall??
Obammy is tearing down the structure of the U.S.government with the complacent complicity of the Left Wing Democrats and his caball. It is being rebuilt as a socialist society even now. The Health Care Reform bill is a blatant attack on the Constitution. This is why you see the Republican party in almost heretofore unseen unanimous opposition to the Obammy agenda. With luck, November will get here before much more damage can be done.
Greatly_Amused - Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker were more honest Christians than you. You don't scorn and pass judgement, then quote Scripture and smile smugly.
If you are a Christian in name, I'm glad I don't attend your church.
grandall-Stop reading the Huffington Post as your only source of perspective. And lay off the Cool- aid. Obama said he was going to transform America. And he is. He's turning the US into Venezuela. You are one of his "useful idiots". Read the Constitution. Read the Declaration of Independence. Just the title of the document should be a clue. Don't you understand that the government has now taken away another one of your rights as an American? It is not a "right" to have health insurance. We all want health care reform, we just don't want to be told what we have to do. This is not freedom by any stretch of the imagination.
wow boomer57, glad you know how God feels. Hey, ask him if its gonna rain tomorrow.
LOL @ Porker! :D The truth hurts doesn't it? You're mad at what I said? Take it up with the One who wrote it. Wouldn't be much to argue with I suppose. The truth is the truth...
For the record, LOL I could really care less what you think of my "Christianity" you don't know me personally, and thank God you never will. I will quote scripture until the cows come home if I like.
Oh, I just love it when the TRUTH offends those in error. It further proves their error because they're the only ones offended. LOL it's awesome. I want you to know I had a good HEARTY laugh at your response. Laughter is indeed good for the soul, I gather.
The Jesus I read about, offended people with the truth on a daily basis, and didn't care if they didn't like it. His job was not to be liked by people. His job was to die for them. I suggest you start reading your bible and stop focusing on terrorizing democrats on the internet.
Most of the sick-minded, religious nuts posting things in this thread seemingly don't know the first thing about Christianity. It's not a religion, it's a life style. It's clearly stated for you, right there in black and white; if you hate your brother you ARE the murderer and there is NO SALVATION for you. Period. THAT is the written word my friend :) Take it up with your God. I don't think we're serving the same one. That's for SURE.
Also, I'm really glad you don't attend "my church," because the book I'm reading says my "church" is the actual body of Christ, not some building somewhere in the south, with a bunch of hypocritical political nuts in it.
Last time I checked salvation had little to do with going to church, and little to do with all of your dumb, political candor. Jesus came to abolish the law... religion... and politics.
If he were walking this earth today, you would be what he considered a 'Pharisee.' You consult the "scriptures" when it's convenient for you, but when someone revs your political engine, all hell breaks loose! LOL This is the pattern with most "conservatives" (whatever that means) from what I can tell, a lot of them tend to be far from "conservative" and down right crazy.
The ones who've used their "religion" to justify their political fire-balling, will be sorely mistaken some day. I used to work at the "Christian coalition" with pat Robertson and Roberta combs, and I've seen the "conservative" craziness first-hand.... and I DO mean craziness. Everything from taking donations from poor old people, and tossing the letters requesting prayers, right into the shredder, to excluding black employees from their prayer meetings because they "talked to loud" LOL... and THIS is the Christianity you'd be used to, porker? No? So, spare me the Tammy Fay baker speech. Your conservative counterparts have them beat.
Don't forget "conservatives", in this great country of yours, the same people with whom you are proud to be affiliated, are the same people who would speak ill of the dead here in this forum, and who would support spraying other human beings with fire hoses, turning dogs loose on them, hanging them from trees, burning crosses in their yards, spitting on leaders of our country, cutting their gas lines, threatening their families, etc. Then they go home, take off their white hoods and gowns and walk into "church" ... so you see my friend...your church has little to do with how you REALLY treat people when no one's looking.
You can hide behind clever remarks on the internet all you want. It will never make up for what is in your heart.
God is not def dumb or blind. He knows who you are. One day you'll stand before Him and you won't have the internet to hide behind. Good luck with that, champ! :)
This conversation is no longer worth further response.
His son put the note next to all the notes labelled 'Murderer', everyone else left. What a schmuck! I hope he likes the heat down there!
How much do you want to bet the son was either high or drunk?
When Sonny Boy said ' It's done' he was refering to another 5th of scotch,Hick !!
Was Patches referring to his political career?