what large majority? 20% of the right wing extremist limbaugh crowd? but agree if there peaceful law abidding crowd let them have there fun and there freedom of speech and hopefully keep those guns holstered!! the more who vote and stand up for what they believe in the better we are even if they dont agree with me!!

Politicians are like diapers. They often need to be changed for all the same reasons!

Ronald Reagan also said that Medicare was going to lead us down the road to Soviet style Communism!

So the Fact that the FBI and the Secret Service thought enough of these incidents to investigate means nothing! Come on! These right wing loonies are crossing the line and they are being urged on by the loud mouths like Beck, Limbaugh and many Republican politicians.

Lying leftists. The alleged "spitting" as shown in the high resolution video CLEARLY was shouting with cupped hands:

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2010/03/video-seems-to-confirm-no-spitting-on-congressman.html

Where is the Cleaver apology and MSM retraction? Will we see them soon?

Scary. With Oba Mao and the other communists you get ARRESTED for shouting at leaders of "THE PARTY." At least we get released, for now.

I wonder if I show up to the rally in my combat boots with a billy club, thumping it on my hand in an intimidating fashion if the charges will be dropped against me by Eric Holder?

I know the thug Black Panthers in Philly were just providing "security", right, I get it.

The Democratic party turning hipocrisy into an art form.

The video isn't clear either way. What IS clear, though, is that the congressman reacts quite suddenly and as though he's disgusted, suggested that the guy might have spit through his cupped hands.

The reaction says it all, to me.

I will be good to see Harry go. The left is just pissed off out here because they're beloved Harry is probably going bye bye.

Wow

They haven't even got there yet and they are already "an angry crowd".

It would be funny but it's just too sad.

The Democrats and their flunkies are going to drive the situation into a tree. Then what will they do?

Government is no longer "by the People", it is now by and for the money hungry politicians.

When the Right has to "Quote" Ronald Reagan, You KNOW they're out of Ideas. I Prefer Goldwater's Conservatism over the "Gipper's" Any day !!!!!

It's nice to know that when the going gets tough in Searchlight, NV. Harry Reid will get going to Las Vegas. Not too surprising since he left Searchlight 20 years ago for the bright lights and money of Washington DC and the only time he remembers he is from there is when election time comes up.

Has anyone noticed how bold POTUS Obama is lately when it is not his job on the line? Harry Reid will find himself just another victim of our Community Organizer in Chief, when he is voted out of office. Harry Reid likes to run around with Obama and brag about all the jobs he has created in Nevada, well Senator Reid as a citizen of the State of Nevada, I have two questions for you: (1) Where are these jobs when unemployment in Nevada is in the double digits? (2) How can you say these things and then turn around and shut down a long term project like Yucca Mountain and in doing so kill thousands of jobs connected with it?

Harry Reid; You and your hero POTUS Obama would do well to heed these immortal words from one of this country's greatest Presidents:

You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.

......Abraham Lincoln

Every election cycle brings out the wingnut fringe people who want to have an excuse to be attached to a cause and find a reason to exist. Unfortunately these people gravitate together and make a lot of noise. Over the long history of our developing democracy groups have tried to derail the candidates who didn't conform to their twisted and often hateful agendas.

There are fringe segments of our society who want to disrupt and undermine our system or even the fabric of society. Do you remember; 'The Birchers', 'KKK', 'Swift Boaters, and even a number of cults who brainwashed members into doing and saying the mantra of the group? We have the same again, but now they are calling themselves 'Tea Party'. The Republicans think they have a lock on their support - they don't. These people are dangerous because they know the shadows and hiding places and come out when they can rally in strange and often violent and threatening ways.

It's very possible that the politicians are being taken in by these Tea Partiers and don't know what they are getting themselves into. The banner is ultra-rightwing conservatism, but that is only a disguise. Remember, history repeats itself.

The Tea Party crowd is nothing but the alter ego's of the far right hate spewing Republican radicals. If this party gets in a position of power, we are doomed as a country.

As is frequently the case with republicans/teabaggers, you claim that the majority of Americans do not want this health care reform. This is a claim that republicans make over and over again, and it has no basis in fact. It is simply a lie.

The Merriam-Webster Dictionary defines majority thus:

Main Entry: ma·jor·i·ty
Pronunciation: \mə-ˈjȯr-ə-tē, -ˈjär-\
Function: noun

: the group or political party having the greater number of votes (as in a legislature)

The way you determine who is the majority is through voting. When more people vote for a particular candidate, that person becomes the elected representative of the voters. The Democrats are the majority. Majority is not a title you bestow on yourself by virtue of belief.

You have accepted the bald faced lies of the leaders of the republicans/teabaggers as if they were the truth. This supposed grassroots movement was started by a large lobbying corporation called Freedomworks and Faux News. It is not in anyway run or organized on the grass roots level.

The teabagger movement has been conceived and directed from above. These witless teabaggers are doing the bidding of the wealthy and setting aside their own best interests because they do not question what their betters tell them to do.

You can tell by the repetition of catch phrases and reliance on repeating the gibberish bestowed on them by extremely wealth radio and television personalities who they somehow believe represent the "common man".

These people, Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh being the most prominent, represent their own financial interests and no other. And the simpletons in this Non-Grass Roots Movement just do what they are told.

They, the teabaggers, are easily provoked to violence by Limbaugh, Beck, Palin and the like. They can be played like a fiddle and will do virtually anything that these people lead them to do.

They have been violent in the past, they consistantly advance the specter of violence as a constant threat ready to be unleashed when their leaders urge them to reload or other thinly veiled call to violence.

They are exactly what we would expect from republicans/teabaggers

and not a single one of them had their taxes raised this year.

They are on a No-Obama tour.....while the majority of them reap government checks every month. How many people that are reading this can afford to take off, drive or fly to another state and take two weeks (goes on until April 15th) to protest? I don't know many WORKING people that can do this.

Hypocrites the lot of them.

The simple fact that this group of morons bow to someone as unbelievably STUPID as Sara Palin shows thier level of intelligence, just below that of a garden slug.

However, a light turnout or disruptions could lead to questions about the emerging movements' credibility and direction.

The media who is out to discredit the TEA Party at the direction of this WH. You are only making yourselves look like fools. Who wants to bet that every event from now on, has the media under-estimating the size of the crowd, while spewing lies of violence and/or racism? They know this is a huge movement with a lot of influence and they only way to try and stop it, is to go on the attack. Such a shame to happen in the USA. Silence the opposition when it doesn't agree with you. NEWSFLASH - never happened before this president!!!

"We're Republican by registration, but I'd even vote for a communist right now if they would start to change the way we're running the country. We need to get our Constitution back."

This one almost made me spit my coffee all over my computer screen! He would vote for a communist because we need to get our Constitution back? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

10,000 people in a town designed to support 800.....yeah, that'll work great. Whose stupid idea was this?

Hey, Riverdog. Every media outlet in the country has this as it's number one story this morning. If drawing attention to their cause is the intent of the Tea party, then I guess it's not really such a stupid idea after all, huh?

Yeah Tim Lucas....... EVERYBODY but the teabbagers is lying!!! Hear the latest on Cantor?? It seems the shot was determined to be "RANDOM" and was not fired AT the building but rather up in the air. It came down with barely enuough force to shatter the window but didnt even penetrate the blinds!!! Immediately, they found the bullet on the floor within a foot of the wall. The Cantor people HAD to have known that!!! Now the country knows all this and Cantor does NOT look good!!!

This version of the GOP and the Teabaggers are VERY dangerous to this country's institutions. Let's hope the people see that in time before somebody gets hurt!

CCArm while the majority of them reap government checks every month.

First. You have absolutely no proof of this. If you do, please provide a link to an independent study that shows the "% of welfare recipients per number of Tea Party advocates." I'd also like to know which programs these "check reapers" are enrolled in.

Second. If you're using the same ol' "People who say this is socialism should stop collecting Social Security checks" Nonsense. That's a erroneous bullshlt argument:

We are stuck in the society in which we live. It is not at all hypocritical to participate in a program you are being INVOLUNTARILY taxed for while publically stating you would trade that program, it's benefits, and it's mandatory tax for less taxation and more personal freedom.

I for one think the Tea Baggers have the right to express themselves.

The Teaparty crowd lead by Sarah Palin and John McCain, is pathetic, these people have no jobs to worry about, and have health insurance. This mess is sponsed by Republican party in hopes that the elections from now on will be Repos only. We really fared well under them, didn't we.... Lost 401 K's, homes, jobs, and 2 wars. The only time I've ever heard the middleclass recognize in campaign speeches by Repos was because Obama wanted to give all Americans a chance at a better life. The Republican party has always been for the wealthy, that's fine but give the middleclass and the poor a break too. The foundation of this country is build on the backs of the working class, the rich don't have to work, it's their job to fool us into doing it for them; we get livable pay, they get filthy rich; we may get to own one home, they own eight... The knockdown drag out about healthcare has me thinking that all the Demo and Repos in both Houses should pay what I pay for health insurance and medicine, and their personal up keep, then I could understand this useless stupidity. A rally in a man's hometown for the sake of disagreement with a bill is sad; there were rallies in Washington, windows broken, name calling and God knows what else..... Is it any wonder why children act so viciously toward one another in schools ,due to disagreements, look at the adults. This country does not have to worry about outside destruction we are doing an excellent job ourselves; These rallies may one day get out hand, then Sarah Palin and John McCain can congratulate themselves for putting America's politics in history books. John McCain's history is over but hers has far to go, pity for her, it will be over before it's begun .

Mary Robertson Your class envy would do Obama proud. Shame on those evil, greedy rich business owners and corporations for giving people a job and a paycheck.

BTW: these people have no jobs to worry about, and have health insurance.

I keep seeing this on here from the left. How do you know this? What stats and proof do you have of the number or percentage of participants who "have no job" and "have health insurance." If you're going to make claims like this you need to be prepared to back them up with verifiable proof.

Where is it?

Tim Lucas: Actually, The Democrats who were elected in a landslide were put into office for, among other things, straighten out healthcare. That being said, as a former resident of the great state of Nevada, while I am sure the town of Searchlight will appreciate the tourist dollars, the citizens of Nevada do not, and never will, cotton to outsiders coming in and telling them what to do. So while Sarch palin will make some money for herself and family, it will have the opposite effect of what these misguided and uninformed people are trying to do. They are guaranteeing Reid's re-election.

grimsley...yeah like the weather underground? Black Panther? It seems those guys got it pretty good, especially in this ADM. That's such crap...look at the people there. Granny sure looks like a terrorist to me.

OK real Americans, we have had the left in control for long enough. They will say that there is no limit to the power or jurisdiction of the Federal Gov't.

Well the Gov't isn't going to follow the Constitution on its own. Well have to drag it kicking and screaming back to the limited form of Gov't that was outlined by one of the greatest ideas of man.

The only thing that will change the downward trend is us. Please join me and others who love this country on April 15th at your local rally. We know that the media will try to find any kook to hold up as the representative of our beliefs. We must overwhelm them with the numbers of good, honest, hardworking Americans that show up.

I don't wanna hear you lefties screaming when companies start paying the fine and dumping more people into the uninsured category. Here's the choices for companies:

1. keep trying to pay the premiums that will keep going up ( more people with preexisting doesn't make insurance cheaper...duh) thus it will increase the cost for their products that you and I purchase - it will cost us more money to get things (duh again)

2. pay the fine and dump them into the system ( it's cheaper for them)

What did you people think would happen? Try a little forthought instead of getting caught up in the cheerleading...oh and BTW the CBO now says Obama's deficit projection was off by over 1 trillion dollars. Another lie.

http://www.zimbio.com/US+Politics+and+Current+Events/articles/ZuAS3qaTjdM/Obama+Deficit+Projections+Off+1+2+Trillion

dEd Grimley I get the impression that given enough time, the Tea Party will form into a legitimate terrorist organization, with the irrational hate that's beginning to become their calling card.

Is the left always this irrational and fearful when someone has a difference of opinion?

Judging from the posts here, apparently so.

Oops, I accidentally left one off, the third option for businesses and companies is to let people go which will dump more into the system as well.

Mary, I see. So, your answer is to simply accept lies and inaccuracies. You believe that anybody who disagrees and has facts, and feels strongly in opposition to what either Obama/Democrats/Liberals think should just shut up, right? Have you ever heard of George Orwell? Give the "poor and the middle class a break too"? Like the AMT? Ever hear of that? If you REALLY think that Obama and the Democrats are trying "to give the middle class a better life" then you're more ill informed than it even appears here. This administration wants one thing. To solidify their base. To increasing their voting pool. To gather and centralize more and more power and resources so that the people becoming more and more dependent on a growing federal government out of control have no choice but to vote for more and more of the anti-private enterprise tax junkies. All the while, they yell "Republican deceptions" while they're lying themselves through their teeth.

Find me some conservative violent protestors. I can point out liberal protestors - including friends and cabinet appointees in this administration that were actually CONVICTED of domestic terrorism. This entire mess smacks of hypocrites. Let's not actually look at what's right and wrong with Medicare and fix that . No, let's instead count medicare savings twice in order to lie about deficit reduction, and load more people onto a system that already doesn't pay for itself, and which is already 900% (yes, that's NINE HUNDRED PERCENT) over their own budget.

And you say McCain and Palin are in the wrong? Shame on you. You display the same desire to shut up the opposition that your ilk claims to be against. Look up the definition of hypocrisy.

BTW libbies, it was just announced that the government will make an $8 billion profit from the TARP bailout of Citi Bank. Ya know, the TARP program administered under George W. Bush?

Looks like George made you an $8 billion profit. Be sure to thank him.

Now go squander it on entitlement programs.

Ernie:

Lincoln did not say that... Rev. William John Henry Boetcker did. I guess it sounds a lot better if you say Lincoln said it...

Quote from Harry Reid

Do you know how to catch wild pigs?

You catch wild pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs find it and begin to come everyday to eat the free corn. When they are used to coming every day, you put a fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming. When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence. They get used to that and start to eat again. You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in the last side. The pigs, who are used to the free corn, start to come through the gate to eat, you slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd.

Suddenly the wild pigs have lost their freedom. They run around and around inside the fence, but they are caught. Soon they go back to eating the free corn. They are so used to it that they have forgotten how to forage in the woods for themselves, so they accept their captivity.

Who said majority, media or you? No taxes then who pays for this war that is borrowed, roads, schools while the lassie faire big corporations destroy mom and pops and the likes of McCain or Palin that talk about helping small businesses which is a total lie with Nafta and free trade. I think the health plan was not perfect but a step in the right direction and hope it is reformed to allow me to buy into Medicare not private insurance companies that will find a way to rip us off as usual. Let's legalize democracy because this American experiment that the Republican Party has high jacked by religious out of touch reality churches. Get real over 40% of women will have an abortion in their life time and religious institutions have no right to take away a woman's right to choice with free will if that is what churches preach? Republicans need to get back to log cabin Republicans of Lincoln that cared about the people that started the Progressive Movement. The Reagen people destroyed with deregulation and you still talk your stupid ideology that does not work. Compromise and public financing of elections not corporations which no matter what this Supreme Court ruled are not individuals. The next election will be won by corporate American and you Tea Party followers will be screwed like the rest of us.

The pendulum has swung to the hard left

What "hard left"? There's not a "hard left" to speak of in this country, but the sure is a hard right.

Ronald Reagan also said that Medicare was going to lead us down the road to Soviet style Communism!

So the Fact that the FBI and the Secret Service thought enough of these incidents to investigate means nothing! Come on! These right wing loonies are crossing the line and they are being urged on by the loud mouths like Beck, Limbaugh and many Republican politicians.

Not true. Do you ever even listen to what they are saying? Here, read a little and understand. It's got some of the Tea Party's ideaology, and even has a few pictures from one of the rallies, shocking pictures:

http://unrepentanttepartier.blogspot.com/

And, by the way, since the government has taken over GM, Chrysler, AIG, etc..., maybe we ARE going down the road Reagan predicted. Ever think of that?

Well I guess the two past GOP term presidency of failed government was not enough and they want another chance to make sure America goes under, that is what a lack of government did and I for one don't care if you people think you're some how losing your so called rights, or are getting taxed higher, there is no more gravy train so suck it up and move on ....

TomMichigan1, hilarious and ironically true...It's Like; fire, I think their going to Burn, fire,, their going to Burn, Burn, Burn..what's weird; Corporate America gave benefits to very, very few this last decade for profit gain..now we're hearing about; Corporate Welfare..the twist; Is this progress ??...it sounds Like; 2nd to 3rd Class Health Care Reform to the MASSES..the Wheels Are In Motion; their are going to be many movements ahead..A Costly Beast of Burden eh..not to be off the subject, but Nancy and all her Cronies pictures..Look like their all bubble-eyed/ and crossed-eyed..Scary/ Ominous I think......

Who do these tea-baggers think they're fooling?

They're extreme racist, they've been exposed!

Meanwhile, the President's approval rating sky-rocketed 10 pts. upon the passing of Healthcare reform.

The more Americans really learn what the bill is about, the more support it garners.

Being able to include your dependent children on your health insurance until they're 26-years old is HUGE! ... and will have a positive impact on the tide of support.

These so-called Tea Baggers aren't patriots at all - they're racists - end of story!

teabaggers? why is ok to call them a sexual act in a disdainful manner? I am so tired of this. I am not even part of the teaparty. can we start calling the democratic party the"" ? Must be true....backdoor deals....favors for this special interests,,,,,giving out free money....guess you have to do something to get that....yea

""

oh and I know I wont be banned for referring to the democratic party as "" as Tyler allows liberals to call the Tea Party teabaggers.

that would be intolerant and wrong and hypocritical of him to ban me while he allows liberals to continue to use that term

so "".....have a good day.

insert any word you would like to for them

plus calling all tea party people racists is inflammatory and incorrect. you are a troll

I've asked a few friends and family members who voted for Obama if they'd vote for him again and all of the replies were in the negative. This November should be very interesting.

Who do these tea-baggers think they're fooling?

They're extreme racist, they've been exposed!

Meanwhile, the President's approval rating sky-rocketed 10 pts. upon the passing of Healthcare reform.

The more Americans really learn what the bill is about, the more support it garners.

Being able to include your dependent children on your health insurance until they're 26-years old is HUGE! ... and will have a positive impact on the tide of support.

These so-called Tea Baggers aren't patriots at all - they're racists - end of story!

Racists, eh? And yet, some of them are black. Funny that the blacks tolerate such hatred. Are you sure you're not slurping up what the liberals are feeding you, you know, like that the stimulus will save this economy? Maybe you guys should tell the blacks to stop coming to the rallies

http://unrepentanttepartier.blogspot.com/2010/03/pictures-from-320-rally.html

The majority of people I have talk to want the health care bill.Yes it has some places where it needs changed and will be in time. McCain also put in two idea's in the bill. S. Piland is not a truthful person and that came out in the run for VP. Look at her record in Alaska, read it in the Alaska Daily news. Ask for back copies of it. Also some of her family members didn't like what she had done in the past. The reason her husband kicked his partner out. She was with him, and then it was swept under the table. The Alaska Pipe line never fixed, but she got money from the big oil lines. Look up on the Alaska pipe line. She has a road to no where but no rust spots leaking oil into the tundra was fixed, With the money for the road to no where or the money from the Oil companies. Shot an animal from a plane that is bad, might just wound it and it suffers,now they are at it again and even next to the gov. reserve. This was on the computer. The violence she stirs up is bad. I have never seen such things and if this is politics I don't want anything to do with it. I use to vote republican most of the time but for sure not anymore. They need to quit acting like bullies in the school yard or 2 year olds.To be called the party of No isn't good. For everything President Obama has tried to do for the country he has had to fight to get it done.They won't work with him as they said they want him to fail. This is sad. I really don't understand McCain going on stage with her, after what she said about him in her book and on different programs she has been on.But then guess he is trying everything to be reelected, but she isn't going to really help him

The President is getting back some of the money that was loaned to the Banks and insurance companies, and yes they are mad about having to pay money back. So Be it, they should pay it back before getting big pay and bonuses. Now he wants to work on jobs and economy but still has to fight on the things that are passed. He has created some jobs. The Republicans would get more votes if they tried to work with him instead of against him and put in good ideas instead of promoting violence and being the no group. It is very sad. lies and scare tactics are no good. We still have our constitution and no one will take that away from us. We still have the freedom of speech, but that really doesn't mean lying and scaring people with them. So many people don't brother to look at the Gov. web pages to see what is being done or checking things out. The quit working at 2 pm is really bad as they are being paid full money to work. The military didn't even get to talk at the houses because they stopped working @2 pm. That endangers our country. I am a moderate that don't belong to any party but do look everything up and then decide who I vote for. As for President Regan, he had Alzheimer's and should have taken himself out of office. I liked him vary much But towards the end he should not have been in office. Others had to do the work and it wasn't always what he would have done if he had all of his mental ability. This was sad.But I do respect him and for what he did before he started the mental decline.His party knew he was sick. There is no crime in that, but it was a crime to keep him in office.

I feel sad for John McCain, because it seems he has simply given up to a tide of odd balls and haters. It's like he just doesn't care anymore what he associates himself with. Just sad.

Palin's "reload" comment, her "targets on a silhouette of gun" antics on her facebook - shameful. Reminds me of a Tokyo Rose type, insidious self-serving comments as she chases ratings - her new career of hate media.

I personally was in favor of the tea party at first....but then the republicans started infiltrating it with their brand of corrupt politics. Palin is just a drone. The tea party is challenging and going after Ron Paul for his seat.

To me that shows the true intentions of this "party" Ron Paul is a true patriot and the republican party is just upset that Paul did not endorse MCCAIN and voted for a third party.

he is a true patriot and our only hope.

Ron Paul 2012

Revolution

hey Dawg, if it wasn't for the lefties, the righties would take Advantage of Everyone to it's entirety..then We ALL would be in some serious trouble..psst, the left hand washes the right hand, that's just the way it is..Patriotism is Not always Right, Hitler was Patriot, was he Right...

I didn't know that harry reid is from Las Vegas.

I guess the morals he learned in "Sin City" would explain his selfish actions.

As in what he wanted, not what the voters wanted! (when he pushed through health reform)

It's not so complicated. Democrats are for increasing the role of Gov't. It seemed like a deal. Of course it was paid for with borrowed money. The bill is soon coming due.

Just like the housing bubble, they spend because they can borrow from our children's future.

The Republicans have played along from time to time.

The liberals would never listen, so we have to appeal to the GOP.

Please join me and others who will not accept America as a declining nation on April 15th at your local Tea Party.

We have to send a message to the Republicans that we must change business as usual in Washington.

I am sure the citizens of Searchlight will appreciate the unanticipated tax revenue that these people will bring in to their town. However, as an ex-resident of the great State of Nevada I can state with certainty that we do not cotton to outsiders coming in and telling us what to do or how we should be living. Unfortunately, these misguided and uninformed people are only guaranteeing the re-election of Harry Reid. Of course, for Nevada- that's a good thing!

Ryan in Texas

agreed with you on almost everything except that the tea party is going to send a message to the republican party. The republican party has hijacked this once worthy party and corrupted it. The people are correct but being manipulated by the powers that be.

Ron Paul is being targeted by this party. Ask yourself why the Tea Party would be going after Ron Paul. Think about it.

Johnny Devine,

You can tell by the repetition of catch phrases and reliance on repeating the gibberish

Is "tea-bagger" a catch phrase? You sure seem to use it with much repetition.

JameyCarothers

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, I bet Harry is feeling real comfortable with his single digit approval rating.

You might as well say Buh Bye to ole Harry.

The people in the Tea Party are uninformed. Here are some facte. The reason I can say that the following are facts is that it just happened to me:

1.My current Group Small Business health insurance (which the Tea Party doesn't want reformed) just raised my rates 35%. Yes, that's pre-Reform insurance premium exstorsion

2. My company only has 10 employees, so being a small business, they are gouged in our current system. My premium for my wife and I is over $2,000 a month for a high deductible crappy HealthNet policy.

3. The reason for the increase: Someone in our company actually had the gall to need surgery, so HealthNet has raised the rates for all.

4. Only a fool would like our current system. It works great unless you need it. Then you get gouged.

5. Tea Partiers may not like Obama's reform, but it's far better than the crap we now have. Educate yourself boys and girls.

GER139 - the majority of people angry with the healthcare bill and the way they did is 67% Not the 49 for that the news media reported. You need to step outside the box and think for yourself instead listening the spin that the politicians want you to believe. MSN put two polls online last Sunday and Monday and both came up with 67% against the Healthcare.

It is laughable that people actually think that the government is suddenly going to provide them with free healthcare if they are low income.......not so.......subsidies will be provided but everyone will have to pay and if you don't you can kiss any refund or payment you get from the government goodbye -those include Welfare, Childcare Credit off Income Tax filing, refunds, Disability checks.......anything the IRS can latch their hands on right down to your home!

Companies are already looking at ways to cut their costs by moving certain production lines and cutting employees to match. Once you are off the employers payroll you are on yourown and they are not responsible for providing any insurance any longer. This healthcare bill is already losing jobs.

Birds of a feather, flock together. Just because you have a last name of Lucas, it doesn't make a gospel and you are as wrong as those tea parties that you try to defend. First Roanld Reagan is the "fiscal conservative" that left this country with the biggest deficit yet, ergo, RR and you are just slogan peddlers that can't handle the truth. Just because lot of people agree with the tea parties, doesn't make you or them right, either. Hitler had quite of a following, actually if you would put the whole tea parties and your racists friends, you would be invisible to the millions that cheer for herr Hitler, but didn't make him or you right either. When people criticize something or somebody, the truth can't be given; I mean the real truth, not the one that your friends, the tea partiers, proclaim. For example, they claim to be for fiscal responsibility and yet, where were they when the 700 billion dollars were dished out by herr Bush? And why when it is money to be spent on and for the people, republicans, tea partiers cry out to high heaven. When you give credibility to seniors with selective Alzheimer's, it is your credibility that it's at stake, They have an excuse, Alzheimer's, but you have nothing. When people mention tea parties, all I see, from tday one, is like it was an seniors convention, where diapers are more popular than common sense and you, by your stupid approval of their slogans, makes you as stupid as them. Do you want to see a revolution in your hands? Try to tell those seniors that you are going to take away Medicare, SS and part D of Medicare and you will see a worse revolution in your hands than the Bolsevich one. You might think you sound like a gospel to them, but to common sense people without secret agendas-racism galore-you sound just like another Sarah Palin, but without the gender, nor the money, but all other attributes. Using Reagan as fiscal conservativer is like using Hitler as "conservative compassion." It doesn't exist, but in deranged minds.

actually I like Ron Pauls vision of what the governments role in my life is. Some people want to be slaves to the Democratic and Republicans visions. I prefer to be free......with all the good and bad that would come with it. You want to be a slave and live a relatively comfortable life and have decsions made for you. I want to be free and take a chance on how my life goes. difference in ideologies.

HRDawg

Meanwhile, the President's approval rating sky-rocketed 10 pts. upon the passing of Healthcare reform.

According to who? The Huffington Post?

According to Gallup, Obama's approval rating has DROPPED 2% since it's passage.

From 50% to 48%.

progressive thinker - The rates went up because your state increased regulation letting more sick people into your plan. We will all be seeing increases like that when those who currently pay more are allowed to enter as if they were healthy.

Why don't all you progressives get together and form your own insurance company.

You can let anyone in no matter their health at the same price as healthy people. You can cover everything. You can do everything that you propose.

So why don't you?

Because the cost would be much much higher than the present system that you so loudly decry.

Face facts. You need our money to pay for your failing liberal dreams.

The health reform is really yet another redistribution of wealth.

That's why you can never opt out of any liberal program. Because you would. If insuring an additional 10-20 million people were going to save money, it would not cost nearly a TRILLION DOLLARS.

Considering the overall health of Americans, our cutting edge medicine is the best in the world. Of course a MRI machine costs more than an Xray machine. And people don't want to use 7 year old technology (when drugs go generic).

And 85% of Americans are satisfied with their healthcare. The only concern I hear is the price. But the Obamascare plan does not lower the price that they will pay for healthcare, it will raise it for those who pay to cover those who do not.

hangar18

Wow

They haven't even got there yet and they are already "an angry crowd".

Of course they're going to be angry.

There are going to be 10,000+ arthritic, pasty people, crammed into a community that only has enough bars and hospital care to cover 800 or so, with inevitably inadequate port-a-potty access, and they have to listen to Sara Palin.

Okay, slap me for that. I couldnt' help myself.

But, I do see your point. There is a derisive media spin on this that is even more shameful than what I just wrote.

Its funny to think that the whole health care thing came down to the sentiments of a handful of anti abortion legislators - Now that's when government really begins to interfere in people's personal lives and the decisions made between a person and her doctor.

And even if one agrees with every garbled word coming from McCain it's hard not to conclude after watching him that whatever merits he may have had , he's become a desperate, demented old man who needs to start scrawling crib notes on the back of his hand before he completely loses any semblence of a train of thought.

The rally that's been called a conservative Woodstock

This rally should be called a conservative Jones-town. Extinction is nearing.

So conservatives are finally going to Nevada to speak out against Ensign and Gibson and the string of scandals in their Party? Oh, they're not...

From the article: "We need to go back to the government of the people, by the people and for the people — I think that's how it goes." That's right little Missy. Majority rule, and government FOR the people. I think that's how it goes.

Oh, now everyone settle down. Remember how supporters of the Iraq invasion were the same way? And then when they saw the reality of the war, they rejected it? It will be the same way with health reform. Assuming Republicans will be the majority again, it won't be for awhile. And by that time Americans will not support going backward in time (hell no).

The Glen Becks and Sarah Palins are fear mongering yet again to raise campaign funds and get these folks to the polls. I'm glad, because I think it will get Dems to the polls too. Yeah, that hopey changey thing is working just fine, thank you!

You really think the Republicans are this mad about health care. I think its a distraction. Here's why I think it:

If you were the banksters, could the RNC and their splinter group the Tea Baggers have done a better job in shifting the spotlight away from financial reform and on to health care? I wrote a quick little article with screen shots links to the entire front page of the NYTimes and Newsvine. Not one article covered financial reform despite Dodd moving the bill the other day. Check it out: http://bit.ly/RNC-MOTIVES

Great job with this article! Keep up the great work. TTYL tgolf

The majority of the people ?....Is that your personal poll ? You've been sitting on the toilet watching Fox news again so the @!$%# can run right through you leaving an un-nourised moron wondering where the toilet paper is !

Finally conservatives are going to Nevada to protest against Ensign, Gibson, tea party candidates convicted for fraud, and the string of scandals in the Republican Party. Oh, they're not? Hmm...weird.

From the article: "We need to go back to the government of the people, by the people and for the people — I think that's how it goes." That's right Missy. Majority rule and government FOR the people. That's how it just went with passage of the new law.

Oh, everyone settle down now. Remember how supporters of the Iraq invasion were the same way? And then when the war didn't turn out to be what they thought, they rejected it. Assuming Republicans will regain a majority, it won't be for awhile. By that time no one will want to go backward with health reform (hell no).

Still it's a shame to see the Glen Becks and Sarah Palins fear mongering for campaign funds and trying to get their base to the polls. Well the fear mongering will probably help get Dems to the polls too. Yeah, and that hopey changey thing is working pretty good too.

I'm waiting for proof of a lot of things these days. Accusations of racial slurs being used yet no proof?? In 2010 you would think that at least one person would have used a cell phone to document this "outrage" for the world to see,wouldn't you? At least one case of gunfire was reclassified as "random", that means a Democrat did it or a criminal a Democrat Judge set free did!! To the media,you think these are angry crowds?? Let's see the proof of one act of violence attributable to a TEA party!! You haven't seen the angry crowds yet, but they're coming!! November will be your chance to get it a glimpse at the RESULTS of anger!!!

Sara needs to return to dog patch, running across the border to Whitehorse Winnipeg for her healthcare Canadian style, a good system if you ask the Canadians.

Protest is not a bad thing, as long as it does not infringe on the rights of others; something the d-baggers seem to have forgotten.

Anyone watching the polls across the nation including the one being conducted by the Salt Lake City Tribune, seems the outlook on the reform has turned much more favorable.

The people at the tea parties say the pledge of alleigance and sing the national anthem.

They deeply care about this country.

We are on the wrong track. We know it, and of course we are angry about it. But we are also the type that know that we alone are responsible for our own actions. So there will be no violence.

But we also will not be going away quietly.

People have died to protect the freedoms that the Gov't now swallows.

Show up and defend their honor.

Remember The Anti war protesters? Seems like only yesterday they were throwing chemicals in the face of the GOP at the convention, They were On every corner on every news cast and now, they have disappeared with out a trace. Would think some one would notice?? Nothing has changed and wars have expanded. There no where to be found! scary stuff!Even in the face of a mass disappearance ,These Tea party protesters go. They are either very brave or very stupid?? Hope some would volunteer to be equipped with GPS Devices in case they go missing as well.

I have one word to say about these lunatics ....

DOUCHEBAGGERS

I just read about a guy asking Obama to prove his an american citizen. What a joke the reason his being asked that is because his black. You guys wouldn't ask that if he was a white guy. All this tea party reminds me of the colonial times when slavery was around. I think the tea partiers just don't like seeing a person of color as president. And people will deny this but its true.

Do these people realize just how foolish they look and act? Do they realize that sara palin is an absolute fool with knowledge of nothing except to incite riots. The woman is a complete imbecile and it's absolutely pathetic that these not too bright people actually believe anything she has to say! The right wingNUTS and lunatics have taken over the republican party!

The Colonel- The person who "needs to take their meds" is YOU! I laughed my butt off when I watched the news clips of Sarah Palin speaking at that crazy Tea bagger party and Mc Cain following her around like a good little puppy. What a joke! I think everyone realizes she was the reason the Republican ticket failed so miserably, yet now he is depending on her for re-election? You should carry your sorry &ss home and take another hit off that pipe. You Tea bagger Republicans really need it.

Where was these opinions from the left. when the leftist anti war terrorist were rioting,Busting out windows,looting and attacking people with chemicals? BTW> Why did they/U stop protesting wars? You do know The wars are still going on and are even expanding? Guantanamo Bay detention camp is still open and In November 2009, President Obama admitted that the "specific deadline" he had set for closure of the Guantanamo Bay camp would be "missed." He said the camp would probably be closed yet he did not set a specific deadline ?????

Loud, angry, bigoted, and crude does not make you right, a majority, or of any relevance at all. Complaining about a non-existent tax increase and a non-existent government takeover is asinine. In the end the calm and heretofore silent majority will need to stand up and tell these bozos to get the f#$% out of town. And when they've had enough they will. Unfortunately it will take someone getting hurt before these people are shut down.

The Colonel, it really suprises me that you're landing in support of this crap... must just be some positioning or something 'cause its not like its right or good for the country.

Question: Why does the Tea Party fly the Alabama State Flag?

Forgive me for not knowing, as I'm a Teatotaler.

You people are insane. Conservatives think they're educated when they are ultimatly fickle. Your conservative commentator icons have to dig deep to find all the corruption of Liberals and progressives, and it always seems to come from their beliefs and quotes instead of what they've acually done physically to other people. Anyone can read an elementary history book to learn what happened physically to people suppressed by conservatism. There's a reason most of the world has ditched this method of theocracy totalitarianism that the GOP want to merge the U.S. into. Might want to read the history books quick too cuz the conservatives in Texas are rewriting history to make all conservatives perfect and liberals evil to teach. Al Queda will be proud of them.

The Colonel- The person who "needs to take their meds" is YOU! Great comeback.

You should carry your sorry &ss home Ummm... I am home....sooo...???

Progressive Thinker

Did it ever cross your Progressive closed mind that IF you had the ability to look outside your obviously tightly controlled states insurance industry you might find much cheaper plans with one of the hundreds of other insurance companies and plans?

Competition drives cost down. If you don't believe it just ask the telecommunications industry. Verizon is coming out with a $20.00 plan. Do you think the other major carriers will soon be following their lead OR raise their rates to compete?

Its very easy to tell what road were going down. Just look at the amount of comments that have been collapsed by the community...

I didnt realize censorship was a progressive ideal.

Can't McCain speak for himself? Let Palin continue on, McCain will loose again!

Why is it the liberals fear the tea party so much? I've never seen so much rhetoric and irrational explanations.

It is quite possible that when Obama was elected he was elected because people were frustrated with Bush, not because they wanted this new healthcare reform law. In fact, it's beyond possible, it's probable. Remember, Congress created this program. Obama stayed out of it because he didn't want to dictate its composition.

So, stop with the "you lost the election" nonsense. Stop with the "we're the majority, we get what we want" nonsense. It is quite possible that some voters that voted for Obama have changed their minds, don't agree with everything that he proposes, or think it is too much.

I wish there were a grassroots Heckle Palin party- I'd be partying non stop- that voice of hers makes my blood curdle even more than the mean spirited, idiotic rhetoric she spouts.

Kudos and a shout out to that lone, courageous heckler who challenged the mob and Paiin. Did you see those peace -loving, right-wing activists try to hit him? Anyone make out what they were chanting? The tea party is a national disgrace and so is Palin.What a classless woman to descend on Reid's hometown bully style with her tea bagger bigots. Hope they all get lost in the desert.

The teabaggers are in fact a group of extremists! They lie nearly as much as the republicans do. Except that they are more threatening! Frankly I was waiting for this extremism to rear its ugly head. They talk about people not wanting this HC reform bill!! They people dont want what they've been TOLD what's in the bill!! Cuts in Medicare services. Pull the plug on granny!! Death panels! Government take over! These are ALL lies! Appearing at an Obama appearance with a holstered gun--- legal? ABSOLUTELY!! subtly threatening? ABSOLUTELY!!! good manners? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! Then again, at the rally in DC, shouting "NI**ER NI**ER" AND FAGGOT isnt exactly good manners, not to mention racist as hell!

Their general message is: if you dont do what we ( the teabaggers) want, the next thing we're gonna do is start shooting!! One of their candiates for governor said as much " If we dont see the change we want, Im gonna go home and clean my guns!!"

You have no right to claim to be americans!! You preach sedition!! THAT has no place in this country!

I often wonder if the liberals and Obama fans think the world is flat? The liberals need to stop watching the news an educate themselves on what Obama is doing to all of our rights. He is trying to be Robin Hood and a Muslim at the same time!

Why can't we just all get along with each other and stop with the games in politics?

I find msnbc has collapsed my comment #1 in line for no reason what so ever and I find you in violation of the 1st amendment, freedom of speech and in violation of no rules what so ever on this site. Somehow the truth offends you when the truth should be rallied. Feel free to collapse this entry too.

"The problem is not that people are taxed too little, the problem is that government spends too much". Ronald Reagan

This health care thing has nothing to do with care but everything to do with control. A lot of you haven't a clue as to what is going to happen. Also, many doctors have already left the hospitals for private practice. What will be left will be the one's you wouldn't go to normally.

@The Colonel, comment 1.48

Considering the fact that the Tea Partiers have been shouting racially and sexually charge hate speech and making death threats to politicians, combined with the series of angry rallies, I'd hardly call it an irrational "fear".

Also, to vol fan in chatt, tn @1.45

I really don't get what you're trying to prove... My guess is that you're calling other groups that, well, ONE was considered a terrorist organization, and the other, not really... but either way, it doesn't relate back to whether or not the Tea Party will or won't become a terrorist group over time or not. It's entirely irrelevant.

johndevine,
Dems are in control only because of the young - who Obama is going to kick in the teeth with new taxes. Nice Guy. BUT being the majority in DC doesn't mean the Majority of the Americans - the People - don't like this bill. I certainly hope you can afford the state taxes, federal sales tax, and so forth. Increase in power of the IRS - just what we need. With them you are guilty until proven innocent. Have a great summer. Nov. can't come soon enough.

Do some research - how many Dems voted for the bill to get their amend passed. Do you like the Gratefuk Dead. You are going to help pay for organizing a museum at U of CA - Santa Cruz. Now that sounds like a great way to spend your hard earned money.
By the way, at least 40 Senators are millionaires. So what do they care about the average American.

I personally was in favor of the tea party at first....but then the republicans started infiltrating it with their brand of corrupt politics. Palin is just a drone. The tea party is challenging and going after Ron Paul for his seat.

To me that shows the true intentions of this "party" Ron Paul is a true patriot and the republican party is just upset that Paul did not endorse MCCAIN and voted for a third party.

he is a true patriot and our only hope.

Ron Paul 2012

Revolution

Actually, most of us are libertarians. According to one article, the Tea Party Express organizers have ties to the GOP, but pretty much everyone I have spoken to at the rallies is furious with the Republicans (though, admittedly, according to the Quinnipac poll, 74% percent of us came from the Republican Party or were independents who leaned toward the Republican Party). I voted for Ron Paul in the primary last year, and I'd love to see him on the ticket, but I doubt it'll happen. He scares too many people. Hopefully, the next President assigns him the task of straightening out our banking mess. Anyway, here's where we sit politically:

http://unrepentanttepartier.blogspot.com/2010/03/our-loyalty-is-to-american-people.html

Tim, you don't speak for the majority of Americans. The tea party movement is a group of loud but uninformed people who act like idiots and don't try to work to change things - just scream and rant and rave. They do not speak for sane Americans who are willing to discuss our differences and find common ground where we can work on solutions. Oh, and by the way, I'm and Independent.

well the teabaggers blew it earlier in the week putting a brother of a law makers address on the web with the message go visit him and tell him how happy you are with your vote for health care-the proper thing to do is email there office or write or visit there office and leave personnel lives out of it-then they only appologized for posting his brothers address so to them if it was the actual congressmans address go at him-kind of like stirring up the mob-with your hate and fear mongering and let some crazy fool not totally with it do your dirty work-a tactic done well by the nazi's in the late 1930's-hopefully they learned there mistake and are now more peaceful but truthfully after reading many of the blogs on here there just itchin to march on washington with there guns and pitch forks whatever to take on the government-all they lack is a evil leader to lead them, sarah and other politicians are not that leader-hopefully none will emerge because truthfully these are actually good americans who arent getting there way and are fed up with all thats going on-most all love this nation im sure!!

Take a breath. Geez, that was one big run-on sentence that made no sense.

There was no racial slurs or spitting on the politicans as they said. There were 100's of cameras and videos and not one recorded any incident,not one. The Democrats wanted one but there was none to report and none caught on tape. The Tea Party was protesting and getting loud but they were not out of line.

Take away all the bricks, broken gas lines, and e-mails, and still, the most atrocious act of the tea-baggers (still makes me laugh), is the assertion Obama and congress are acting against the will of the people.

Every campaign stop, Obama drew every crowd (sometimes 50,000+) to their feet by vowing health care reform.

He won by over 10 million votes! A history lesson from a child... Bush ran as a 'compassionate conservative' and 'won' by 537 votes.

So, for the intellectual honest: who best represents the majority?

It certainly isn't O. He is still campaigning. He hasn't led anything but a stream of lefties into government appointed postions--none of them could get elected, many are radicals in suits. The 5% of citizens who sway elections are moving away from O and his Carter look-alike buddies. Independents need a reminder every few years (a generation or so) of why they don't support liberal ideas. O is giving it to them in spades. O is demeaning the presidency and narrowly focused on minority liberal views and his character can't accept the independent alternative views/opposition. He is losing support in the US in record time and other nations are beginning to understand his character flaws. This is a bad combination with potentially negative future outcomes for the nation. If you know or understand the founding principles of our nation, it is clear that O is schooled in opposing them. The decent values of the majority of Americans are at risk.

I hope the tea baggers will take the blame, as they should, for the new Timothy McVeighs they will spawn. Read about him and you will see the similarities.

BTW, I'm starting the Coffee Party of Common Sense.

Semper Fi!

The left incites...and then decries the actions and says it is other people's responsibility. Get a life.

Please, Ken, tell us how the left "incites". And then take a good look at the hag that is "speaking" at the rally, no mob. It is like an old Frankenstien movie. These people need to go home and take thier lithium like good little mental patients.

GER139 - maybe one person did put up an address and that is totally misappropriate! They are not the entire movement. Millions of people have been to hundreds of rallies and there is no violence or racism! You did hear of the union guys who beat on a black conservative though I suppose. What about the ECO justice guys that actually bombed an SUV dealership? Is that the action of the entire green movement? Wake up!!! Look what the media at the beck and call is trying to stir up with propaganda.

A lot of other stuff you are hearing happens every day to both sides!!! Yes, death threats too. Did they talk about Stupaks death threats from his own side prior to switching his vote? Will they report on the hate calls the organizers of this event received? We are Americans and should not let them dupe us like this...

left didn't seem to care when the black panthers were threatning voters and SEIU ws beating up 130 pound men.Bottom line they have the right to form and say what they want. Unless the left are willing to arrest Wright and a few others that have come out with some very verbal racial issues (And by the way Im black). No physical violence should happen oon either side but the left ignores it. But personally Reid toast anyways.

We live in a country that the left has made uncompetitive. It is time for a real change.

All of Obama's ideas are the same ones Democrats have been pushing for a century. And yet he says it's change.

The time has come for us to show them real change.

We are the people who quietly work over a third of the year just for the Gov't.

Well, the time to be quiet is over.

The liberals have protested many, many times. But we have not. It's time to change that.

Please join me and other concerned Americans at your local Tea Party on April 15th. Our numbers can send a message. We know the liberals and statists in power will not hear it, but we will send it anyway.

At least they will know exactly why in November we will be delivering our no confidence vote.

first off all, it was a gas grill that had a line that was broken...quit already with the wild accusations. I did not see anybody spit on anybody. Did people say things they shouldn't have in Washington last week? Yes. That happens...and it shouldn't have. But people are made the constant accusations that the TEA party is are terrorists and all that crap is just pure bull - the left has called them Tim McVeighs, nazi, brownshirts, unAMerican( Nancy P and others in leadership)...people are fed up.

At some rallies I have seen there are SEIU thugs there and they are the ones taking it upon themselves to push, shove, and knock down people, and yet not a word is spoken badly about them. Geez, already, take the blinders off.

While I do not agree with all that the "tea party" does, I recognize their right to free speech and to assemble. I do not, however, recognize Sarah Palin's right to send out thinly veiled calls for violence on her website, twitter feeds or anything else. Anyone who uses gun metaphors over and over again, is hoping someone will finally shoot. She won't be satisfied until this happens...then she will surely state that she cannot be held responsible for someone else's actions...

Funkpocket

You forgot to mention that BUSH had to steal the first election ..... LOL LOL LOL

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26497298/

updated 8:21 p.m. ET, Mon., Sept . 1, 2008

ST. PAUL, Minn. - Protesters attacked delegates, smashed windows, punctured car tires and threw bottles Monday, a violent counterpoint to an otherwise peaceful anti-war march at the Republican National Convention. Police wielding pepper spray arrested at least 56 people.

The trouble happened not far from the Xcel Energy Center convention site, and many of those involved in the more violent protest were clad in black and identified themselves to reporters as anarchists. They wrought havoc by damaging property and setting at least one fire. Most of the trouble was in pockets of a neighborhood near downtown, several blocks from where the convention was taking place.

Police estimates of the crowd shifted several times during the event, ranging from 2,000 to 10,000. The crowd was clearly in the thousands. Late Monday afternoon, long after the anti-war marchers had dispersed, police requested and got 150 Minnesota National Guard soldiers to help control splinter groups near downtown.

Published: Monday, September 1, 2008
Protesters attack delegates at GOP convention

Members of the Connecticut delegation said they were attacked by protesters when they got off their bus near the Xcel Center, KMSP-TV reported. Delegate Rob Simmons told the station that a group of protesters came toward his delegation and tried to rip the credentials off their necks and sprayed them with a toxic substance that burned their eyes and stained their clothes.

One 80-year-old member of the delegation had to be treated for injuries, and several other delegates had to rinse their eyes and clothing, the station reported.

BTW>salem1692 This was just one protest ,they were thousands of leftist antiwar protesters arrested in the last 2 years of Bush. Many 100's for inciting violence.

Where are they now? I have not seen a anti war protester in well over a year. Why?The Wars continue and expand!

Steve.... there already is a COFFEE PARTY... check this out

http://www.coffeepartyusa.com

The Coffee Party will jam them in just like liberal talk radio.

I'm totally ROFLMAO Sarah Palin, queen of earmarks, former Governor of Alaska the state with more earmarks per capita than any other, home of the 'Bridge to No Where' railing against earmarks and fiscal irresponsibility. How absolutely laughable.

I listened as she spoke on behalf of McCain at his rally in Tuscon yesterday as she proved that either she had no grasp whatsoever of the historical context and actual events of the Boston Tea Party or else (and oh wouldn't this be a surprise) she was just making stuff up out of thin air.

So let's see, she joins the McCain presidential campaign, failure, she goes out to stump for a handful of candidates in the recent special elections, failure BUT those Republican candidates who all but paid her to stay the heck away from their campaigns did quite well. Hmmmmm

Ladies and Gentlemen, allow me to introduce you to the Democrat's secret weapon against right wing nut jobs, Ms Sarah Palin!!!!!

Last time I checked you don't get penalized for not accepting a right. The supporters of this bill can never justify forcing their fellow man into slavery. This is not about Democrat vs Republican. Some of you are vicious. If you want to live by this bill, go ahead. Don't force others who disagree.

Fox's zombie crazies get media because crazy makes news. Half the coverage of Sarah Palin is there waiting to get the footage of her making a fool of herself again.

These idiots don't represent America, they just claim to represent America. They are mostly just loud, obnoxious and violent. That is the only reason they get attention, it is not their ideas. The only claim to ideas they have are vague sound bites of "protecting the Constitution" and "taking back America". Taking it back from whom, the people we elected? And giving it to who, Fox News? Sarah Palin? What a dangerous joke.

Sarah Palin? Really? The idiot, know-nothing who lost McCain the election? The one McCain publicly distanced himself from right after the election?

This is who is firing you up? Haha, you people are dumber than I thought. You've turned to Sarah Palin. Wow. I'm now more confident than ever that you will get absolutely nowhere.

1. There is no such thing as a "Tea Party". This is the Republican Party. And the media should stop pretending that it is any grassroots anything else. Always has been. Always will be. Nature has not made a dumber batch of creatures since the first bacterium. And I insult the bacterium with the comparison. Just look at all of you in your goofy Tea Bag Glory. All of you out there frothing at the mouth. Filled with nothing but hatred, rage and evil thoughts for any fellow countryman who doesn't share your twisted ideology, anti-Jesus agenda (really), and who doesn't look like you. Arguing against your own economic self interest and survival against a ruthless anti-human Health insurance monopoly. And all because of your hatred anger and stupidity about losing an election to an African American President. What a bunch of sorry A$$ed losers.

News flash to the GOP Tea Bag Wing. Jesus didn't look like you either! Being from that part of the world, during that time period, he looked much more like Osama Bin Laden than Max Von Sydow!. He didn't think like you either. If he was alive today, you are the very people he would be condemning. Because you are identical in attitude to the people he condemned in his earthly life. You are not following a real christian in Sarah Palin and the rest of the GOP/tea bag faux religuous slime. You are following a witch and her horde of warlocks. That old Kenyan Preacher (Muthee) was maybe on to something, trying to cast the spirit of witchcraft from around Palin. Unfortunately for him, SHE WAS THE QUEEN WITCH HERSELF! He had no chance!

2. You nutjobs probably just insured the re-election of Harry Reid. Thank you. We certainly appreciate your help doing it. We responsible citizens love Senator Reid and Speaker Pelosi. And I am certain the people of Nevada don't like the crazy, cretin mob from Hell coming to their towns, telling them what to do. Here is a novel idea for you Tea Bag Hell's Angels. Focus on your own politicians in your own states. You idiots have become lost in your own hatred. Spitting on people. Threatening the lives of people. sabotaging the home and safety of innocent people in your bloodlust (like the Congressman's poor brother & his family). Insulting our leaders. Calling people unlike youself every vile, filthy, foul name you can conjour up from Hell! Creating anarchy, chaos, treasonous rebellion, and insulting the true message of Jesus (which is love, compassion, forgiveness, redemption, helping do good deeds). You have become nothing more than evil haters, sin incarnate, and foul, detestable monsters yourselves, masquerading as Patriots.

3. You mindless mob of misfits, are actually only setting the stage for your own prophesy and doom to be fulfilled in the future. You are so busy demonizing President Obama and miscasting him as some sort of Anti-Christ. That unbeknownst to your pea brains, you are actually conjouring up the real deal. Unfortunately President Obama will only be our leader for 8 years max. Afterwards, the Democrats will most likely get satisfied, complacent and lazy as we always do. And some monster who represents your twisted, demented ideology and beliefs will somehow ascend to power. Well if you folks are his template, THAT WILL BE THE REAL ANTI-CHRIST. And you and him will be the eternal losers.

Bush/Cheney/GOP rule from 2000-2008 may have only been the Hellish warm up act. Yikes!

LOL --- maybe Palin should go back to supporting "The Songbird". She was a traitor to Alaska and he was a traitor to his Country and fellow airmen and POWs. There may be enough people in Arizona that don't know his past or are ignorant of his stances to elect him.

Amen,sister. Testify!! ("You're fired!" Palin says of Reid in his home town!) If we can get rid of at least one of the Gruesome Twosome (Comrad Nancy being the #2) in November then 2011 will have a promising start!!

Interesting that while this story claims that 7000 people showed up, reports on the ground put the reports in the hundreds. Maybe Fox News will release some photos of Woodstock and claim its Searchlight.

AWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, DANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One of you Bleeding Heart Progressive Liberals must have collapsed my comment in the first section by mistake.

As a concerned citizen I don't want you to miss out on seeing how compassionate YOUR party was during the Bush era so here's the link that will remind you,,,,

http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621

Make sure you scroll down and keep going, your hypocrisy is like the Energizer Bunny, it keeps GOING AND GOING AND GOING,,,,,

He and several others taped signs saying "Nevada Needs Harry Reid" to the side of a truck near the highway that runs through town.

They forgot "like a hole in the head"!

Harry Reid has one thing right. The people of the State of Nevada will decide his fate come November 2010, not people who live outside this state. That being said Harry, with an overall approval rating of only 8% in Nevada. What chance do you really think you have? You and many others who ignored the polls that clearly showed the "majority" of American voters did not approve of Obamacare, and thereby ignored the will of the majority of those who will vote for or against them this year, have sealed your fate. We sent you to Washington to represent us, not the Democratic Party and especially not POTUS Obama, but the majority of people who live in the State of Nevada. You, Senator Harry Reid (D) Nevada have failed at your elected job and come November we will give you your pink slip. I suggest you talk to Obama, perhaps we will create the position of Czar of the State of Nevada just for you.

Wow!!! I thought the RNC was promoting getting every incumbent out of office this election. I thought it was time to get these career politicians out of office. But here they are now saying well just the Democrats this time round. Then we got Scary Palin campaigning for McCain. Bring out the pitch forks and torches Palin is here!

Palin will abandon public service for the right price.

And the people who follow? In the 2008 election cycle, Obama/Biden carried 78 of the 100 counties with the highest education, McCain/Palin carried 88 of the 100 counties with the lowest education.

Need we say more?

If you want to see what McCain REALLY thinks of Palin, watch this youtube clip from the campaign: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsLPWCoAfbY

Especially pay attention to what he does with his wedding band starting about 30 seconds into the clip. My wife, the PhD psychologist actually uses it in a class to show how body language can be very complex --- to the point of showing both sexual desire and the conflicting knowledge that you are cheating on your wife at the same time.

Traitor, Turncoat, Sleezeball ---- yep, that's your Johnny Boy! And who is leading the GOP effort to overturn the McCain Feingold Act ---- Heeeeeere's Johnny!

Palin, like the teabaggers, are an embarrassment to this country. The more they talk, the more idiotic they come across. Funny how they cry "freedom of speech", yet "escort hecklers" out of the room. What a bunch of drama queens!

You want to see this country in ruins? Just leave it to Failin' Palin and the right-wing fanatics. Tell them "hell, no!" just like we all did in 2008. I think we've seen enough BS from the Repugnantcans and their tea party scandals this year.

The "Tea Party" is a radical spinoff from the republican party. The people who assembled there to "get rid of Reid" are Poorly Educated, Poorly Represented and usually poor, hanging on the words of the corporate and elite rich's gopher, Sara Palin. Palin knows a free handout when she sees one and so far she has been on the receiving end of the feed trough set up by the American elite rich and their corporate special interest people.

The real shame is that this mass of easily manipulated and usually angry people are showing up cheering, clapping, and sadly, voting for the very elite group off mass rabble rousers whose mission IS TO REMOVE SO MANY GOOD NATIONAL HEALTHCARE AND SOCIAL SECURITY MANDATED LAWS designed to help the American People, while taking the funds and sticking them into the pockets of the evil rich..... Really screwing these misled individuals out of their constitutionally championed rights as they scream "NO To Socialism!!!" These pathetic voting bodies don't even know what socialism is and Sara is gonna show those commies a thing or two!! as she comes through with whatever her cryptic political masters have told her to fetch

And after all is said and done and these pathetic dumbed down masses finally realize they have been screwed by the elite wealthy 8%, they will scream at these evil ones knowing it is far far to late, while the repubo/bag party hags just stare back at them and blink trying to hide a muffled grin across their faces.

These Dumb and Dumberer Americans showing up at these tea party farces are being manipulated into their socio/political demise and they are to DUMB to even know it.....

PT Barnum and WC Fields would find this whole moronic mass of SaraSuckers amusing,

"Ah Yes...For every sucker born they are two to take him...."

It reminds me of how Bush/Cheney/Rove used the Christian right.

And the lemmings continue to follow the moon...

Are the teabaggers trying to sack any Repulicrats or is this the new Republicrat atempt to fool the average American, what new way are they offering? Same Ol Sh*T from the same ol politicians, i guess they are trying to polish a turd, i hope most Americans can tell the difference between sh*t and shinola.

It is really to bad Ken- that you see Tea baggers in such light. Government has taken over our lives and in the process have shut us out.
Tea Party is a form of town meeting. It truly is amazing who self-important you all are. At least 40 Senators are Millionaires and they didn't earn it. They are professional politicans.
Once they've been in Congress a few terms, they have enough power - they don't need the 'people' just the money to run again and the special interest groups make sure they have that.

This is a reprint from Pravda, the leading Russian newspaper. Perhaps the Progressives will understand when told to them by the nation that denounced the same beliefs you have.

Perhaps, but probably not.

American Capitalism Gone With A Whimper

Progressive MSM-NOT why not!!!!!!!!!!!

It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American descent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people.

True, the situation has been well prepared on and off for the past century, especially the past twenty years. The initial testing grounds was conducted upon our Holy Russia and a bloody test it was. But we Russians would not just roll over and give up our freedoms and our souls, no matter how much money Wall Street poured into the fists of the Marxists.

Those lessons were taken and used to properly prepare the American populace for the surrender of their freedoms and souls, to the whims of their elites and betters.

First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard Progressive education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas than the corrupt Democrat drama in DC that directly affects their lives. They care more for their "right" to choke down a McDonalds burger or a Burger King burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our "democracy". Pride blind the foolish.

Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different "branches and denominations" were for the most part little more then Sunday circuses and their televangelists and top protestant mega preachers were more than happy to sell out their souls and flocks to be on the "winning" side of one pseudo Marxist Progressive politician or another. Their flocks may complain, but when explained that they would be on the "winning" side, their flocks were ever so quick to reject Christ in hopes for earthly power. Even our Holy Orthodox churches are scandalously liberalized in America.

The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past fifteen months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America's short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more than another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Weimar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe.

These past two weeks have been the most breath taking of all. First came the announcement of a planned redesign of the American Byzantine tax system, by the very thieves who used it to bankroll their thefts, losses, and swindles of hundreds of billions of dollars. These make our Russian oligarchs look little more then ordinary street thugs, in comparison. Yes, the Americans have beat our own thieves in the shear volumes. Should we congratulate them?

These men, of course, are not an elected panel but made up of appointees picked from the very financial oligarchs and their henchmen who are now gorging themselves on trillions of American dollars, in one failed bailout after another. They are also usurping the rights, duties, and powers of the American congress (parliament). Again, congress has put up little more than a whimper to their masters.

Then came Barack Obama's command that GM's (General Motors) president step down from leadership of his company. That is correct, dear reader, in the land of "pure" free markets, the American president now has the power, the self-given power, to fire CEOs and we can assume other employees of private companies, at will. Come hither, go dither, the centurion commands his minions.

So it should be no surprise that the American president has followed this up with a "bold" move of declaring that he and another group of unelected, chosen stooges will now redesign the entire automotive industry and will even be the guarantee of automobile policies. I am sure that if given the chance, they would happily try and redesign it for the whole of the world, too. Prime Minister Putin, less then two months ago, warned Obama and UK's Blair, not to follow the path to Marxism, it only leads to disaster. Apparently, even though we suffered 70 years of this Western sponsored horror show, we know nothing, as foolish, drunken Russians, and so let our "wise" Anglo-Saxon fools find out the folly of their own pride.

Again, the American public has taken this with barely a whimper...but a "free man" whimper.

So, should it be any surprise to discover that the Democratically controlled Congress of America is working on passing a new regulation that would give the American Treasury department the power to set "fair" maximum salaries, evaluate performance, and control how private companies give out pay raises and bonuses? Senator Barney Frank, a social pervert basking in his homosexuality (of course, amongst the modern, enlightened American societal norm, as well as that of the general West, homosexuality is not only not a looked down upon life choice, but is often praised as a virtue) and his Progressive Marxist enlightenment, has led this effort. He stresses that this only affects companies that receive government monies, but it is retroactive and taken to a logical extreme, this would include any company or industry that has ever received a tax break or incentive.

The Russian owners of American companies and industries should look thoughtfully at this and the option of closing their facilities down and fleeing the land of the Progressive Red as fast as possible. In other words, divest while there is still value left.

The proud American will go down into his Progressive slavery without a fight, beating his chest, and proclaiming to the world, how free he really is. The world will only snicker.

Stanislav Mishin© 1999-2009... PRAVDA.Ru. When reproducing our materials in whole or in part, hyperlink to PRAVDA.Ru should be made. The opinions and views of the authors do not always coincide with the point of view of PRAVDA.Ru's editors.

Progressives are so blinded by their adulation of Obama's incompetence they don't realize the world is watching and laughing at us. But as we all know Progressives have no pride or self-esteem as they have sold their and their childrens soul to the Progressive Marxism of a corrupt and inadequate leader who's only goal is to control them and leave them for his legacy.

Palin, like the teabaggers, are an embarrassment to this country. The more they talk, the more idiotic they come across. Funny how they cry "freedom of speech", yet "escort hecklers" out of the room. What a bunch of drama queens!

You want to see this country in ruins? Just leave it to Failin' Palin and the right-wing fanatics. Tell them "hell, no!" just like we all did in 2008. I think we've seen enough BS from the Repugnantcans and their tea party scandals this year.

Yes, that's it. Keep demonizing them, because you can't possibly win debating the issues. After all, they are against run away spending, the exponentially growing debt, and a growing federal government. If you are against that, then you are for those things, right?

http://unrepentanttepartier.blogspot.com/2010/03/keeping-debate-relevant.html

The tea baggers are fools to attach themselves to this boob!!! She has not completed one thing she has started and Cheney is yet another boob, filled with spite and hatred.

Funny, everything that opposes the tea baggers is being "closed by community". I guess the tea baggers have found a way to silence the opposition.

Actually, all of this posturing and political grandstanding is really just for show. Our political system has degenerated to having a dysfunction Congress that will never get anything done because it won't matter which political party is the "minority" party because the minority party through obstructioinist tactics will be able to stop the "majority" party from ever accomplishing anything of importance for the people. The Republicans have proven in the past 2 years that this tactic works and now whichever party is in the minority knows they can bring government to a standstill and whip up opposition to the sitting majority. I'm not sure which is the more enviable position to be in.

This is a reprint from Pravda, the leading Russian newspaper.

Snopes:

Discriminating readers should make special note, however, that the online version of Pravda in which this editorial appeared is not the same as the newspaper which once served as the official voice of Soviet Communism. The latter was shut down in 1991, while the former is a Russian tabloid-style news outlet established in January 1999. While the name is the same, the two papers are different, and the one doesn't have the pedigree or the history of the other.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/pravda.asp

Ever hear, duh birds of a feather always squawk together. The first time, a word slipped from Palin's ruby reds, I tagged her as human white trash, a person so brainwashed by little slogans and cliches, she has never possessed a free thought in her life. Her IQ is not much higher than Bush's, and her level of consciousness is controlled with propaganda and the same verbage that dates back, hundreds of years.

Of course, America's brainwashed drones just love her highly elevated intellect, her sweet tater pones and her bear skin capes, just like they worship propaganda. The Tea Partiers represent the lowest IQ's and this nation's human garbage. They are an embarrassment to Europeans and this nation's gifted folks. Hee Haw, dudes.

Every time Sarah Palin makes an appearance on behalf of someone else it is like watching a rerun of Criminal Minds. You know something bad is going to happen but you keep watching anyway. Very scary how she thinks. Very scary that others do too.

Plants, thanks for that Snopes link. Get's 'em every time!

Hello everybody. Join the Coffee Party. Go on line and find the nearest coffee house that is having a meeting check it out. Maybe it is for you. I went today and I can tell you it is not the Tea Party. Thank you God! The Tea Party is not the silent majority, the majority of us are watching from the side lines wondering how the discourse got so uncivil and what we can do to change it. A majority of the nation voted in Obama, the Tea Party is not the silent majority. Seriously check out the Coffee Party.

Snopes this,,,,

http://biggovernment.com/jhoft/2010/03/27/harry-reid-supporters-attack-tea-party-bus-update-breitbart-attacked/

Progressive Bleeding Heart Liberals at their corrupt best.

Such law abiding peaceful people.

If the Tea Party really wants to cut taxes, here's a suggestion, get rid of the over 2000 federal subsidy programs for individuals, businesses, state and local governments that cost the federal government over $4 trillion a year. Such programs as: farm subsidies at a cost of close to $1 million per farm (Heritage Foundation report), roads across vast empty spaces in the plains states, electric and telephone coverage in these same areas, postal service subsidized in areas with populations of only a few thousand people, corporate subsidies even if they send jobs overseas, education, health, welfare, etc. In some of these areas, citizens can't afford to pay the entire costs for roads, electricity, phone service, home gas, postal services, etc because the cost per individual would be in the 10s of thousands of dollars, but the rest of Americans in densely populated areas pay for subsidizing the costs. All this talk about self reliance and work for what you get, well maybe they should start paying for their "access" to all these things.

And what's even more entertaining is that Sarah' Alaska is one the top 5 states that take the most in federal "welfare" monies than other states. So much for being personally responsible. They count on "welfare" from the rest of the 49 states just so they can survive. Start practicing what you preach.

And the Anti war protesters are where? More soldiers and civilians killed so far this year than last and last year more killed than the year before. Gitmo still open with no close date in sight.Funny after years of anti-war protests the caring left has vanished.In the last 4 years Democrats have made everything that should be down up.<unemployment> should be down however it is up The war deaths should be down However they are up.National Debt should be down however it is way up.Gas prices are up they should be down. I am not better off than 4 years ago or even a year ago. Same number of uninsured as the day this law was signed. Etc. Etc. Etc.This is different than the Bush years how?I Think, if Republicans forced everyone to buy a car and gave one to those who could not afford one so they would buy more oil enriching them you would have flipped your lids! when the Democrats force you to buy insurance and even give it away for free to get more using so they can get richer its A-OK.

The truth doesn't make a good story. To get people to read on - you need a negative title. The Tea Party is a good target, because they go against what the powerful and wealthy professional politicians have declared who is right. The Dems want to go out of power. I wonder how their neighbors whose 30 year old has to work two jobs (if there are any) to pay for the taxes and the new insurance rates. Will welcome them. of course, they don't live in the real world.
Even if this was a good bill, the economy is horrible - no jobs, no money just death and taxes. The people need a way to vent their anger until Nov.

So go hug a tree or better yet your or somebody elses kid.

i agree the tea party deserves a pass-see the blog I wrote 2.1 they screwed up but I think understably so-they didnt know what they were doing and it caused harm to people which im sure they regrett. hopefully now they have learned from there mistakes and will move on the right way.

Watt-

What are you talking about? You know about the violent protests in Minneapolis because of the media. Everything you know is through some sort of media. The news reports the news. How come every time the news talks about tea parties people like you start screaming that you are getting treated unfairly. It can't possible be that these people look bad because they are behaving badly. Stop using other people as an excuse for other peoples fear mongering. Talk about hypocrites you only have to look in a mirror.

Risha,
BS! I live in MN and I was there along with my daughter and her boyfriend was served 2 terms in Irag...you should have heard the things that were said to him...it was disgusting. I couldn't believe they called themselves Americans. When I read your comment how the "news reports the news" I knew it was useless having a discussion with you. Maybe you should get your news from sources other than Katie Couric....you have to take bits and pieces from all resources and then think for yourself.

Maybe you should get your news from sources other than Katie Couric....you have to take bits and pieces from all resources and then think for yourself.

Good advice. Now try and tell that to your right wing friends too, except insert "Glenn Beck," "Sean Hannity," "Rush Limbaugh," "Fox and Friends" or "Newsmax" in place of "Katie Couric." Because I guarantee you if even half the people who write on this board did, we might actually get a civil and (imagine it!) informed debate going on in this country on the issues that affect us.

watt, its very simple really, if you don't like MSNBC DON'T COME TO THIS SITE AND READ ITS COVERAGE!!! go listen to your boy Rush. Talk about slanted coverage, he flat out makes up his rants and has done more to divide this country than any of its foreign enemies. I imagine he brings a smile to Bin Laudin's face every time he hears Rush spout out his venom.

Semper Fi

Good advice. Now try and tell that to your right wing friends too, except insert "Glenn Beck," "Sean Hannity," "Rush Limbaugh," "Fox and Friends" or "Newsmax" in place of "Katie Couric." Because I guarantee you if even half the people who write on this board did, we might actually get a civil and (imagine it!) informed debate going on in this country on the issues that affect us.

Another idiotic comment from somebody incapable of looking objectively at an issue. The MOST intelligent and informed posts on the vine seem to come IMHO from people who observe what is coming from multiple sources - and not only one. I'll let you in on a secret.

Beck, as an example, ALSO criticizes the republican point of view, and specific republican politicians. Couric has to carry an extra kleenex around to mop up her slobbering from when she thinks about Obama.

Again, isn't it interesting that people like you decried all the concerns about Obama and Pelosi not being honest about cost reductions resulting from this law. Yet now, AFTER the abomination is passed, NBC/MSNBC publishes an article stating that the numbers don't add up. That for example, Medicare savings are counted twice, and the reductions won't happen. That they used video taken BEFORE the vote, but waited until AFTER it's law to mention it? Hypocrisy at its finest.

Yep even libreal rags are pointing out how horrible the "bill" is. And nice the democrats killed off home health care. The one thing that actually SAVES money.

Risha, please tell me how many people were arrested last weekend in Washington DC at the rally against the Heath crae bill? Oh, right....1 was detained and released. There was also an antiwar protest near the White House. Here's photos of both:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NTRjMDIyNjA5OTk2OTE3MjhjNmU3ZjA3NDIxNjZmZDc=

Has the liberal agenda improved the outlook for Americas future?

The bills are coming for all the reckless spending. Our children's future is dimming. They will be paying for the entitlements of today. The Ponzi scheme will end in a cataclysm.

They have had their turn for 80 years. Now it's time to try complying with the US Constitution instead.

Please join the many Americans who know we are on the wrong track on April 15th at your local Tea Party rally.

What is wrong with you people the article says there was no violence. The guest speaker has or had on her web sight violent pictures of opponents with a message that could have been interpreted as a call to violence.

For those individuals that are in support of the Obama health care plan I hope your as excited about it after the next decade goes by and costs are out of control and health care is worst than it ever was in our history because that is where it will all end up. Don't get me wrong, I pray to God that Obama knows what he is doing but I can not logically see how his massive entitlements will not bankrupt us.

I wish just once that if it fails its blamed by all on the Democrats that are clearly the decision makers at this time, but the partisanship is so deep it will somehow be Bush's fault. At some time people must see that the emperor has no cloths.

For those who support the Tea Parties, don't worry the media bias does not sway the independent thinkers that watch all the news casts and decide for themselves. Political zombies that find themselves agreeing with only one party please understand that you are the problem.

WTF
You call it protesting..others call it putting down the kool-aid and thinking for themselves...try it

i will admit i dont agree with the tea partiers and there agenda but if there peaceful and control thereselves they have every right to speak there mind if civil, many brave soldiers fought and died for that right-let them have there fun and even you cant be all happy with everything going on-I know im not-cant blame them for being upset. think there lost and misinformed but stand for there right to speak out!!

watt75 The majority, Conservative, have shut up and got screwed by the liberals for far too long. It is time they rose and spoke what is on their minds. The Liberals have been doing it for century's and getting away with it. The Liberals not the Conservatives have screwed this country and drained it for century's. Get a job so the taxpayer will not have to foot the bill for you.

WTF you weren't screaming about protesting when they protested against Bush. Did you scream at Cindy Sheehan? Probably not. So get over yourself. Your president is done. One and Done. He will be gone in 2012. And the tides will change in November....Progressives are going home!!

Chuck,
All we need is a TRUE conservative leader with some balls.

Funny, when the left wing radicals were out protesting a war their representatives voted damn near unanimously for - it was freedom of speech.

Now it's shut up.

You really want to see how things should be?

Every congressman should have to go back to their district and take an official one vote-per-person poll about a particular bill. Whatever the outcome that's how they vote. Those results are also passed on to the state senators who vote the same way.

It does exactly what should have been done with the healthcare takeover - slows everything down so people can actually see what's in a bill and it make sure the elected official votes they way the majority in their district / state actually want. They are also actually forced to read the bill (which might make them less than 2000 pages). If you don't vote don't bitch.

And lastly, it also ensures that the representative IS doing what his/her people want instead of a vocal minority. Al Franken said he's everyone's Senator for his state. That's true as long as they are Marxists.

the last conservative leader with balls? only liberals won the world wars

Chuck, what the heck planet have you been living on?!?

The tea party group doesn't have to shut up libby...they have as much right to their say as anyone else...and as far as winning an election, all of your socialist heros will be on their way come November...get it?...got it?...GOOD!...:)

john q adams,
You said "only liberals won the world wars" so proudly.. but Liberals are against war aren't they? LOL Pick a side buddy.

DownTown JulieBrown:

Obama is not a Progressive. Nor are most of the Democrats in office.

Obama is a Moderate, at best.

The Progressive viewpoints on healthcare reform, international conflict, and financial reform are not adhered to by Obama or his administration. A Progressive president would have pushed for "Medicare for All" out of the gate, would have at least started the process of ending the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts, and would have let failing financial instruments and institutions FAIL.

Don't badmouth the Progressive movement while we're still bridesmaids. Wait until we actually have the ability to do more than simply inform debate!

Also, re: Cindy Sheehan's protests...

Did Obama's call for healthcare reform kill your son?

Because GWB's illegal war in Iraq killed Cindy Sheehan's.

Just saying.

Chuck H-316019

watt75 The majority, Conservative, have shut up and got screwed by the liberals for far too long. It is time they rose and spoke what is on their minds. The Liberals have been doing it for century's and getting away with it. The Liberals not the Conservatives have screwed this country and drained it for century's. Get a job so the taxpayer will not have to foot the bill for you.

Chuck your burble makes no sense. Narrow minded and clearly can't think for yourself. Conservatives and Liberals have both done good and bad for the country, things aren't so black and white. And this may blow your mind, liberals have jobs too! And a some conservatives don't. You want to turn a blind eye to what one party does and give yourself completely to their agenda makes you a huge dangerous fool.

Fst Ede and Watt:

Are you two for real?

Fst:

Name one Socialist who has a position of any significance in U.S. politics, other than Bernie Sanders. I'll wait...

<crickets chirping>

Watt:

Comparing WW2 and the current Iraq invasion is an asinine position to take.

Being peaceful and going to war to save the world

vs.

Being belligerent and seeing war as a crass opportunity to transfer wealth to defense industry cronies

Hmm...

How are hoping for peace and trying to save the world through necessary conflict mutually exclusive viewpoints? They seem pretty connected...

If true intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing view in equal measure in one's mind, then the liberal position would be the intelligent one, right?

"the last conservative leader with balls? only liberals won the world wars"

Yeah. There were no conservatives fighting in those wars.

Also seems to me a dem started escalated vietnam to a hellish pace and was shut down by a republican.

woodrow wilson won world war 1 and FDR and Truman won world war 2.....they fight wars when necessary and win them BIG

Vietnam started by Eisenhower, a republican

Vietnam was started by Kennedy,and ended by Nixon. WWII was started by Japan,and WW1 was not won it was decided to just stop fighting and an armistice was signed. Wish for once you Democrats would do some history research. If you knew any History you would have Known Eisenhower was ask to run by the Democrats for president also.

Dan, regardless of any of that, a grieving mother has more of a right to protest the illegal war that took her son than a brainwashed Dittohead has to complain about a non-existent boogeyman.

Shut Up? Typical liberal ideology...think our way - or shut up...

Naw, Pegster.

You're funnier when you don't shut up.

Like Sarah Palin!

Also seems to me a dem started escalated vietnam to a hellish pace and was shut down by a republican.

Are you kidding? The Republican and his Roy Orbison - bespectacled chief diplomat essentially hijacked potential peace between North and South Vietnam in order to win an election!

Even so, who cares who started or stopped what? I'm so sick and tired of hearing this Democrat v. Republican, conservative v. liberal bullcrap every single day. Folks, this country is going nowhere fast unless people stop foaming at the mouth and attacking each other and actually come together to listen to one another and come up with solutions..

watt75

john q adams,
You said "only liberals won the world wars" so proudly.. but Liberals are against war aren't they? LOL Pick a side buddy.

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Wow, way to incredibly simplify reality.

Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Woodrow Wilson, Lyndon Johnson = were they not liberals and they did they not win wars? (or in the case of Johnson, radically expand one? - albeit a foolish one?)

War is nothing to brag about but the fact of the matter is none of those men could be considered pacifists and all could be considered liberals and every single last one of them was more involved with war than the right's saint Reagan ever was.

Pick a side? Come on, the world is not black or white. Most liberals aren't opposed to war in general, just unjust ones like Iraq.

There hasn't been an election yet to win. Or would you count Scott Brown? Really, just wondering.

John Q it was 1961 when we sent the first advisors just to train the S. Vietnameese. It was a Democrat who started the war, not a Republican. Further it was a Democrat that Esculated the war there.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/When_did_the_US_first_send_advisors_to_Vietnam

Stormer: Here is the research you asked for...

"Vietnam was started by Kennedy,and ended by Nixon." "The Vietnam War, also known as the Second Indochina War, the Vietnam Conflict or the American War, was a Cold War Military Conflict that occurred in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia from September 26, 1959 (Eisenhower) to April 30, 1975." "The U.S. midterm elections in 1974 brought in a new Congress dominated by Democrats who were even more determined to confront the president on the war. Congress immediately voted in restrictions on funding and military activities to be phased in through 1975 and to culminate in a total cutoff of funding in 1976....on 6 January 1975, Ford desperately asked Congress for funds to assist and re-supply the South before it was overrun. Congress refused." (i.e.,The US involvement in Vietnam was ended by a Democratic Congress.)

"WWII was started by Japan". "The start of WWII is generally held to be 1 September 1939, with the invasion of Poland by Nazi Germany." We were allies of Great Britain at the beginning of the war, and did not declare official involvement until we were attacked by the Japanese in 1941, but had troops killed by the Axis before that date. My father served 1937 to 1945, and knew men that died previous to 1941 due to 'hostilities'.

"WW1 was not won it was decided to just stop fighting and an armistice was signed." "26 October 1918. The collapse of the Balkans meant that Germany was about to lose its main supplies of oil and food. The reserves had been used up, but U.S. troops kept arriving at the rate of 10,000 per day. Having suffered over 6 million casualties, Germany moved toward peace. Prince Maximilian of Baden took charge of a new government as Chancellor of Germany to negotiate with the Allies. Telegraphic negotiations with President Wilson began immediately, in the vain hope that better terms would be offered than by the British and French. Instead Wilson demanded the abdication of the Kaiser. There was no resistance when the social democrat Philipp Scheidemann on 9 November declared Germany to be a republic. Imperial Germany was dead; a new Germany had been born: the Weimar Republic." This is a bit different than "WWI was not won". It was not a draw; "Imperial" Germany conceded defeat.

"If you knew any History you would have Known Eisenhower was ask to run by the Democrats for president also." "Not long after his return in 1952, a "Draft Eisenhower" movement in the Republican party persuaded him to declare his candidacy in the 1952 presidential election to counter the candidacy of non-interventionist Senator Robert Taft. (Eisenhower had been courted by both parties in 1948 and had declined to run then.)"

Sorry; your claims were about 90% off. Naughty, naughty...re-writing history.

(Many thanks to the wiki-p for the quick reference.)

Ben if you said Bill Clinton was a moderate, I would agree, during his term as the Arkansas governor and from 1995 - 2001.

A liberal politician says he wants massive programs, but is smart enough to understand that If everything promised is instituted the government would go bankrupt. So instead of getting everything at once, they will incrementally get little parts. This is an awesome strategy, because they can be re-elected time and again on the same issue, claiming the other side stopped them this time, but if you put me back in, I'll get more of it, if I can't get it all.

A Progressive wants everything and doesn't understand that the policy will bankrupt the country. The fall back position isn't being a moderate, it is being a liberal but only giving up a few things. I couldn't get it all because of the other guys, so, send me back to get the rest.

And your whining about everything is getting old.

I cant believe Tea Party people cant see how they are being used by the republican party, they will do anything to kiss the tea party ass. Talk about big govt,, Who created the LARGEST govt agency in the history of the USA... Its called the TSA and George Bush Created it,, who destroyed the 200 million dollars surplus in less then 2 years in office,, George Bush,, Bush and Rove used the religious right to get him elected and did nothing for them while in office,, I admire the Tea Party I was once a member of Ross Perot We the people,,, all I am saying dont let them guide you,, create your own party and bring a 3rd voice to America

Typical liberal response. When people disagree, you want them to shut up. The people will not shut up and will only get louder.

john q adams,

I would invite you to read "The History of War in the 20th Century" or "The Bright and Shining Lie" before you start spouting off with crap that you so obviously know nothing about. When you've done just a LITTLE self-education, you'll realize that your posts are nonsense. How's that "League of Nations" going, eh? Wow. Amazing how little so many people actually know about our own history. And how easily some liberals can attempt to deceive others in support of their own self-centered desires.

WTF "shut up"? and you call the GOP radical. Nice.

WTF Over-1040784

Dear tea party followers/organizers/patriots whatever you want to call yourselves,

Do me a favor, shut up.

Spoken like a true liberal.

Yeah, you guys are really into freedom of speech.

But apparently only as long as everyone agrees with you.

There has not been one year in the last 40 that the Federal Debt went down (that includes the "surplus" that Clinton suppossedly provided).

The TSA is a fleck in the overall size of the US Gov't.. Social security alone is a 600+ BILLION DOLLAR A YEAR PROGRAM. 2/3 of all Federal spending is entitlements.

I wish we could do better than the Republicans, but for now they are the only likely way to reduce the scope of Gov't.

Most importantly, if we do not stand up now, our debt load will continue to grow into an ever bigger timebomb.

The patriots see the ever growing Gov't and our downward trends going off together hand in hand.

Show up and be counted or be a cog in the machine that drags down our great land.

Them MEAN TEA PARTY PEOPLE.
I am 67 yrs old and now lets talk about MEAN. In the 60's we had Jane Fonda sitting with the ENEMY. John Kerry , Bill Clinton and Bill Eras, The Black Panthers, The NAACP all Protesting the War. Talk about Violent, Killing our own Police officers.
Martin Luther King, Went to Atlanta Georgia, when he left they BURNED IT DOWN, The Watts in LA, BURNED DOWN, DETROIT, BURNED DOWN, TRENTON NJ, BURNED DOWN, PITTSBURGH, BURNED, That was their Slogan back than BURN BABY BURN.
Lets see when George Bush was President, Talk about Violent.
Liberals only see what the LIBERAL PRESS shows them. Like a Race Horse, They have BLINDERS on when their side does something.
Yeah, Them TEA PARTY PEOPLE should be Jailed and never to see the light of day. WELL GUESS WHAT IT IS COMING TO THAT.
\Next , Watch very closely, Shutting down FOX< RUSH, BECK, HANNITY, But letting ABC, CNN, MSNBC, ABC,do and say what they want, as long as it offends CONSERVITIVES.
The PARTY OF HATE and DEATH

AMEN John Bartimac! WE HAVE WOKEN UP and are really PO'd that the progressives have tried to kill our country. Time to take it back. Oh and there have been multiple elections that have gone the "TEA" party way. Scott Brown, varoius governorships including Virginia and a unknown Tea party candidate almost won in NY even after the RINO Republican who was getting ousted from the campaign supported the Democrat.

john q adams,
You said "only liberals won the world wars" so proudly.. Question then: "Who were the A-holes that went to Canada when called to war?" Leads me to believe that the Conservative with their values fought the wars.

plus "What Political Party did Hanoi Jane belong to?" When Bob HOPE entertain US Troops in '68, Hanoi Jane entertained the North Vietnamese troops. I beleve she votes Democrat and not Republican.

Chuck: During Vietnam, the two "camps" were divided not so much by "party" as "hawks" and "doves". I was politically active at that time, and in the private sectorthere were Dems that were hawks and Repubs that were doves. It was only the politicians that were divided by party, not the private citizens you cite, such as the draft resistors and "Hanoi Jane". I don't remember that anyone EVER called anyone else a "Repukelican" or a "Dumbocrap" during the war.

As far as "Republican values"...yes, the Republican politicians DID have their "values", and they basically consisted of bombing the world out of existence. Remember the peace sign, which was the flag of the peace-desiring PRIVATE SECTOR (not the flag of the Democratic Party, which still remains the Stars and Stripes)? It is the amalgamation of the Semaphore Flag Signals "N" and "D", for Nuclear Disarmament. The Republican politicians and their toadies, the "Religious Right", were the ones that first started calling it "the broken cross" and the sign of the devil. So much for propagandized "values".

Only truth will set you free. I'm sorry you are doomed to be a captive.

Even if both parties were taking us to hell in a handbasket, we all know that the Democrats would take the quickest and most direct route.

America has many problems. More Gov't has never been an answer.

Has the welfare state lifted people from poverty? Not by the numbers. There are more on welfare than ever.

Did all the regulations make America safe? Not by the numbers. There are more people on disability than ever.

80 years of Ponzi scheme borrowing against the future generations to pay for entitlements. and what do we have to show for it?

A country in decline.

Jane Fonda should still be in PRISON. But no she was a LIBERAL and now is a Multi-Millionaire, John Kerry is a Senator, Bill Clinton was President, WOW to be a lefty is the way to go. Than you can be what you want.
Hate the Country ,But Prosper.
Hate the RICH ,ever though you are one of them.
Hate America , even though you are part of it.. Hate God even though you say that believe in Him.
Hate people who are Pro Life and Say that you are not for Abortions, even though you are making the Laws to carry them out, and you support them by picking Judges that keep the laws going.
Support Gay Marriages even though you know that they are wrong.
Support taking the Guns off of the Innocent People and not trying to take them off of the Criminal.
Say that you are for the Constitution even though you are destroying it, and twisting it.

alise42 I don't remember too much that happen between '67 - the end of '69. I was too busy ducking bullets and mortars in Vietnam. I do remember seeing Bob Hope and hearing about Hanoi Jane. When the country called, I volunteered. I lost a good friend in Vietnam and I came home in Oct '69 to a bunch of Protesting A$$ Holes. I'm just grateful I celebrated my 21st birthday as a proud American, in Nov '69. What were you doing during Vietnam, protesting?

I fly a flag 24x7 when ever we have someone in a foreign land protecting us or someone else. Yes at night I have a light on my flag, I fly it proudly. I served my country like by father did in '42.

Why is it that GOD himself see's fit that we have a choice and yet some would like to take it away on his behalf. We all have the right to murder, GOD GIVEN, thankfully most do not. If you are so anti-abortion you must adopt the millions of babies that WILL BE NEGLECTED/ABUSED, look what happens to many babies that where wanted, what will happen to those who are not!

dump all incumbents

Ahhhhhhhh,,,,the hypocrisy is endless,,,

http://biggovernment.com/jhoft/2010/03/27/harry-reid-supporters-attack-tea-party-bus-update-breitbart-attacked/

Progressive Bleeding Heart Liberals at their corrupt best.

Such law abiding peaceful people

Another Reid supporter, Judy Hill, 62, said she doesn't understand the hatred of Reid. The longtime Democrat from Searchlight said she thinks people just don't know the man she calls a friend.

"They listen to the rhetoric. I think he's very misunderstood and under-appreciated," she said.

I don't think he is misunderstood at all. His actions speak louder than words. He needs to go, right along with all those other anti-American Congressmen and woman who are destroying America.

other anti-American Congressmen and woman who are destroying America.

Its that kind of asinine rhetoric that turns me off. Teabaggers are pissed off republicans who can't stand the thought that a) they were wrong and b) they lost. Sure, you'll win it back again, that is the way it works. But you are full of birthers and people who hate government and don't want social security, medicare, jobless benefits, healthcare for anybody (except yourselves). I think YOU destroyed America, if you want me to talk your language. Your policies have shrunk the middle class. Your policies start wars when you shouldn't. You aren't the only ones who live here. Stop assuming you speak for the majority, you do not. I don't give a rat's ass about Harry Reid, except now I hope he wins because I don't like your party. And lets not try to lie about the teaparty being anything but another name for republicans.

The Tea Baggers know that the GOP has lost all it's steam and will probably never recover so they are trying to fool the American people into thinking they are not the GOP, come now not everyone is that stupid, and whats with all the Old folks hell looks like they collected all the retirement homes elders and bused them in ..... LOL LOL LOL

What's with the collapsed comments, everyone has the right to their views to collapse someones comment is not American, come on lets not be childish .....

What's with the collapsed comments, everyone has the right to their views to collapse someones comment is not American, come on lets not be childish .....

Newsvine, not America.

Senator Reid has a 8% approval rating, lower than Richard Nixon after Watergate, the only way he can win reelection is if he imports some of those Philadelphia Black Panthers to guard the ballot box again.

Palin sure loves the one liners and sound bites.

I have yet to hear her give a rational explanation WHY she thinks she and other conservatives can do a better job, and HOW she and they are going to make things better.

It's easy to accuse your opponents of "palling around with terrorists" or "selling out Americans", but if you can't show any proof or examples, you are just a noisemaker and fear monger.

To answer one of the ridiculous arguments some of you are bringing up in here:

Jane Fonda is ONE person. It doesn't matter how she voted, she has the right to denounce ANY war she doesn't agree with(especially if we invade a country that hasn't attacked us, like Vietnam or Iraq).

5 uncles of mine fought in Korea and Vietnam(2 USMC and 3 US Army). They all agree that we shouldn't have been over there unless we were attacked first. Most are still pissed at the politicians who sent them there.

Now a question. Who are the Nazis in here who are getting comments collapsed? You are pretty weak and anti-American, if you can't take others expressing opinions that differ from yours.

You know who you are. Move to China, where they love to censor people, if you can't handle reading posts you don't agree with.

I don't care if someone posts something that attacks me personally. I just leave it as an example of their mindset for all to see. Then I break them down, go on the offensive and see if they can take it like they dish it out.

Sgt. Pepper

Really for what, hell I say things on almost every post that borders on being ejected, well I've ejected a few times but hell I'm going to say what I want too if they don't like it kick me off ...

Tea Party is Ilrelevant,at this point..Sarha Palin is taking their money,Mccain cant even Draw a Crowd anymore so he Hires her to stump for him......He is washed up and so is She..

Oh hum lets move on:)

LETS SING SHALL WE 1,2 and a 1,2,3,4

Waterloo Waterloo where will you meet your Waterloo
Every puppy has his day everybody has to pay everybody has to meet his Waterloo

Now ol' Adam was the first in history with an apple he was tempted and deceived
Just for spite the devil made him take a bite
And that's where ol' Adam met his Waterloo
Waterloo Waterloo...

Little General Napoleon of France tried to conquer the world but lost his pants
Met defeat known as Bonaparte's reterat and that's where Napoleon met his Waterloo
Waterloo Waterloo...

Now a feller who's darling proved untrue took her life but he lost his too
Now he swings where the little birdie sings
And that's where DEMINT, BOEHNER, Mcconel,Mccain,LIEBERMAN,CORNYN met their Waterloo
Waterloo Waterloooooooooooooooooooooo...

Doobie - through all the smoke in the room, you can't see what's going on. The guy "says" he is a republican, no one can find where his money is coming from, half the people who signed his pettition to get on the ballot aren't even registered to vote. 80% of the people who signed his petition are registered to vote as democrats, and The Tea Party is the name he chose to use as his party, and not exists.

You know what bothers me is MSN does not have true reporting on the Obama administration. They did not even mention the new CBO report that says the deficit will be 90% of GDP. These numbers are scary. That means the government will be spending almost every dollar that is made in this country. Not just tax dollars ever stinking dollar. That is not sustainable and Obama wants to spend more.

Palin like many does not even want to pay taxes for pay for the war that use the ooor and middle class to do the fighting so the upper elites can drive their fancy cars and wave the flag. They talk freedom and funny how they always say support our troops but then do not want to even pay for the war and keep borrowing from China. Want to bitch then how about the billions for the military industrial complex? Watch on www.pbs.org and click NOW and see how our water is now being contaminated by natural gas companies around the country using TV PR ads as if they are environmental. All bull. Like I say Tea Party people, corporations do not care about you but stockholders. Now natural gas companies even want to drill in large cities. I say open your minds and get your heads out your asses.

Lib50 said "asinine rhetoric" What is asinine about the comment? 1st of all, I'm not a tea bagger or a Republican, I am a Conservative. I am more than unhappy with the state of affairs in Washington. The corruption and extremist thinking has had net negative effect on America. Financially, the Congress is a disaster. The Democrats are spending like crazy. Crazy as the don't ACTUALLY have the money to spend. But, let's make more funny money, borrow from the Chinese, and now they are borrowing from our Grandchildren. They don't have the first problem with bribes and coercion to get what they want. We have those, like yourself, who uses "asinine rhetoric" like "the Party of No" as a talking point. We have dangerous people running our government and millions of Americans will be hurt by their actions. Harry Reid is part of the problem, that is why he needs to go. We need to go back to be able to describe our Legislators with words like, integrity,honesty, and dedicated to needs of their constituents.

Can someone PLEASE get rid of this politician? / talk show radio host wannabee? Whatever comes out of her stupid mouth is a joke. She sounds like a moron! Seriously...why is anyone paying so much attention to someone who quit her own post as governor....who only wants to rake in the dough with books, fox news and now a documentary on Alaska. Talk about someone who thinks it's all about them..why do we give her 5 minutes?

Let me also add, I hope John McCain loses his quest for re election. He obviously has dementia to put her back in the faces of the people of Arizona. He deserves a swift kick in the nuts and head for unleashing this Palin animal again. Obviously he is a desperate soul...

other anti-American Congressmen and woman who are destroying America.

willbrook, you want to know what is asinine about that? What is anti-American? Who is anti-American? What is being destroyed? How? Do you honestly think there is a big plot to destroy the country? I'm sorry, but that sounds wingnutty to me.

We need to go back to be able to describe our Legislators with words like, integrity,honesty, and dedicated to needs of their constituents.

I consider Obama to have integrity, honesty and dedicated to the needs of the country. The Senate and Congress have some good, some bad, and some exceptional members and I bet it has always been that way. I really do not get what you guys are hearkening back to at all.

It's sorta sad, ONCE, people respected John McCain, ONCE we thought he made sense, but THEN he got weird. He dumped his wife when she got sick, he married a frost queen younger bimbo, then he chose "Sarah Palin" to be the President of the United States in his demise. He also "suspended" his campaign to promote TARP to the Congress, then he drecently declared AFTER his election loss and his party's loss of the vote to give health care coverage to all Americans, that he would NEVER work with our President again.

So much for this man of "reason," he has not only let his state and party down, he has let AMERICANS down, we are disappointed in you John, you make bad choices.......

Right, Sarah. A person who, as governor, turned her back on her constituency in Alaska "to work for the greater good." Right, Sarah, using inflammatory terms such as 'reload', to incite, and to sell and take advantage of those who are at the brink of ???? More abominable, you as the 'representative' of the Great Land. Whatever sells, right? And to the highest bidder!

lib50 said: "I consider Obama to have integrity, honesty and dedicated to the needs of the country."

I take it, you spent most of your formative years outside the US like our President did?

If he had integrity and honesty, why would he have hired for important positions in govt. tax cheats? Would he be strong-arming and making bribes to Congressmen to get what he wants? If he is dedicated to the needs of our country, why is he taking us down a course that has only made things worse? Why has he signed a "health care bill" that he and his family is exempted from? If it is good enough for our country, it should be good enough for him. If he has the best interest of the country at heart, why is he taking multiple vacations all over the world, using Air force One like a taxi, to cruise around the country for unnecessary trips, holding extravagant parties at the White House for friends and then treating Netanyahu/Israel like crap? Fiscal responsibility starts at home.

Words that more accurately describe our President include arrogant, Socialist, out of touch with the common American, and ignorant of business and it's needs to remain in business to maintain a health economy. You may wish to continue to drink that kool-aid, but don't be surprised when you come up for air and realize the end result. If we get that far, (which I hope we DON'T!) the suffering will be far worse than it is now. Try living in a county that has unemployment over 14%, (and I know many who are no longer on the roles) where 35% of the population qualifies for free food at the local food bank, (that's 18000 people.) The jobs are gone and nothing is being done to create new jobs. Instead we are working on a health care bill that we can't afford, (refer back to the previous sentence concerning jobs.) The bill creates a bigger govt., but the folks in my county won't be qualified for those jobs, let alone have the money to move to where the jobs are if they were. The bill is the first step to destroy the Insurance Industry. When they have accomplished that, then the Socialists will step in to create a single-payer program. Then there will be suffering for all. Research money will be gone, quality health care will be gone, rationing will be the norm. Thanks for nothing.

They remind me when I saw the children of today when They first get together with other children... They don't want to share Their toys!!! But as least children are smart enough to learn it is better when They start sharing the toys... They won't learn that they lose the election... Now it is time to start sharing this Country with the ones that won!!! Rather than like the Children when they first when they first go to school...

willowbrook...let me remind you that it was the Bush admin who borrowed money from the Chinese to finance our "wonderful war". you sound like a whack.

There are angry conservatives out there? I can't tell you how sick and tired the rest of us are of the angry conservatives out there.

First, Obama was fairly elected with a clear majority of votes. This is unlike the narrow and controversial 2000 election.

Second, Obama has been in office for only one year. Bush didn't experience this kind of backlash until the rush to invade Iraq three years after the election. And the invasion was done by lying to the American people. The cost in lives, in treasure, and in reputation was inexcusable. The anger against Bush/Cheney was justified.

Third, the Dems have passed legislation with a majority, either a super majority or simple majority, but a majority -- Even though they have not enjoyed bipartisanship from Republicans the way Republicans have from the Dems during Republican reign.

To that point, conservatives don't even want to be exposed to information outside their narrow world view. That's why they only tune into FAUX Noise and Hate radio. They are nothing but closed-minded bullies--we've seen it time and again at protests, town halls, etc. All they do is yell--that way they can't hear anything, and neither can anyone else.

In watching the video of hecklers at Palin's fear-mongering event with McCain, it's clear these people are decedent from the lynch mobs of our past. And Palin had the audacity to say people like POW McCain preserve free speech--yeah, if you're in the tea party. Otherwise, not so much. Those hecklers were really brave to risk their lives like that.

There is no reaching out to these ugly far-right people. I am completely fed up and disgusted with them.

True Patriot

Couldn't agree with you more!! Well said, I am so so sick and tired of these people.

Correct me if I am wrong, but the only thing I see Palin do is blow McCain's horn. I was not impressed when she was campaigning holding a baby on her shoulder. If she was a single mother and didn't make enough to hire a baby sitter, I might be more impressed. Anyone that was fooled by that ploy is an idiot. Please tell me, what is "HOT" got to do with running the country? Sure I respect McCain for being true to his country, but there were other men who were there and they didn't come back. From what I heard, after the war was over, some were still there. When did the american people stop thinking for themselves?

Again, no SPECIFICS. And the comment that Obama needs to prove his birthplace is screaming that these people are woefully ignorant and choosing to remain that way. (He has provided proof, the Republican Gov. of Hawaii has certified his birth record, all this in mainstream media. The birthers 'choosing' to ignore the truth) The protestors appear to be mostly late middle-age or older. The same people who are already benefiting from government programs. They aren't concerned about America, they just don't want to provide for those who have nothing, its all about self-centered, self-absorbed, 'not in my backyard' mentalities. Most of what I hear from baggers is false or twisted to mislead. What I READ is more and more people no longer taking their orders and views from the oreilly's, limbaughs, hannity's and beck's, but are doing some homework on their own, actually questioning their 'authority; that alone is reason to celebrate. Who or whatever you support, doing on facts, not rumor, lies or the hypocrit talking heads. O'Reilly isn't a jouranlist, there is nothing neutral about him. He and the rest do and say whatever is in their best interest, not the best for the country. If these guys could make more money being Liberal cheerleaders, they would cross the aisle so fast...they know, however, that historically Liberals and independents are more apt to research and investigate then conservatives and Republicans. I don't know why, but they know being a right-wing shrill is very lucrative and gives them the attention a narcissistic personality craves.

To all of you who want mccain to lose..YIKES. Palin is an empty-headed, narcissistic opportunist, yes. McCain is the greatest flip/flopper hypocrit in the Senate, yes. Neither are worthy, YES. But, consider the alternative...SHUDDER. J.D. Hayworth is so far to the right he has to turn his head to see. If Mccarthism was active today (which it kind of is) he would be his 'right' hand man and Palin the biggest cheerleader. Hayworth thinks the Constitution was written for people who only think and believe as he does, the rest can just be stifled. I've said it before, if he were around in the '30's, he'd be a goose-stepping, card-carrying member of the Nationalist Socialist Party. I live in AZ and the thought of J.D. in the Senate is nauseating. This is one of the most conservative states in the Union and its very possible he could win.

Even the hard-core far right see McCain's parading of Palin as a desparate act. Many of the goose-steppers haven't forgiven him for his previous stances on tax cuts, gay marriage and his 'attack' on Jerry Falwell, for example. His flip to support anti-gay legislation before the Arizona House and his recent praise of Falwell are great indicators of his flop. This MAY all be a calculated smoke-screen to get him elected to his probable last term, then he may return to his moderate stances. Whatever his agenda, it can't be anywhere near as anti-American as Hayworth's. This was a guy who used to yell the sports news at us, who was considered a buffoon and mental-midget by his fellow workers and who just LOVES the sound of his own voice. He is chomping at the bit to get some of the recent legislation protecting gays and other disenfranchised Americans rescinded. He's not above condoning/supporting any attack on the Constitution that gives to much freedom to the opposition.

Henry Ford, a leader in this movement, said, "These men of many nations must be taught American ways, the English language, and the right way to live." Talk like that today and our liberal elites will brand you a cultural imperialist, or worse. But if you ask me, Ford had a better idea. J.D. Hayworth

the right way to live????? By whose definition??? The right-wing arrogance and desire to control peoples lives.

Also check: Hayworth's wife and TEAM PAC.

On March 14, 2010 while appearing on WORL (660 AM) in Orlando, Florida, Hayworth said that a Massachusetts Supreme Court ruling in favor of same-sex marriage defined marriage as "the establishment of intimacy." He said that the ruling could lead to a human marrying a horse based on that definition. The 2003 decision actually defined marriage as "the voluntary union of two persons as spouses, to the exclusion of all others", and the phrase "the establishment of intimacy" does not appear in the ruling.

On October 27, 2006, after endorsing Hayworth in previous Congressional races, the Arizona Republic newspaper withdrew its support and instead endorsed Democrat Harry Michell. The article placed Hayworth "among Capitol Hill's worst offenders" of "extreme partisanship." Mind you now, the Republic IS a conservative daily, but perhaps a little better at crossing idealogical lines against extremists.

So. PLEASE, support the proverbial lesser of two evils in this election, the alternative would be the worse horror show in AZ history.

lmao......this cult and their signs really give me a good laugh...........where did these people come from? They should of kept those mental hospitals open, instead of opening up the doors and letting them all out.

lmao......this cult and their signs really give me a good laugh...........where did these people come from? They should of kept those mental hospitals open, instead of opening up the doors and letting

According to Quinnipac, there are 13 million and growing, so it's a pretty big cult. As for where the people came from:

Looking at voters who consider themselves part of the Tea Party movement:

• 74 percent are Republicans or independent voters leaning Republican;
• 16 percent are Democrats or independent voters leaning Democratic;
• 5 percent are solidly independent;
• 45 percent are men;
• 55 percent are women;
• 88 percent are white;
• 77 percent voted for Sen. John McCain in 2008;
• 15 percent voted for President Barack Obama.

But our only common bonds are really fiscal conservativism, and the desire to cut the national debt and limit the influence of the federal government. I know it sounds crazy to liberals, the notion that the government may be spnding too much and that the debt may be getting too big, but since the international community has decided recently that our ecom=nomy is such a mess that they no longer want to buy our bonds, and that we're going to just have to print more money to pay off all the entitlements and earmarks we have pushed through, maybe it's the people who are ignoring the problem and hoping it magically goes away who aren't quite in their right mind.

But if you want to demonize the messenger and ignure the substance of the debate, then go right ahead. All the other liberals are doing it, so why not you, right?

SB,
Just wait and see how bad his math is in say 4 years when the full accounting is done on this healthcare bill.

Cause some Liberal might be able to read it and find out how the Obama and Democrats in Congress Screwed the USA and turned it into the USSA.

The same Liberals that complain about the Tea Party are the the same A$$ Holes that tour down the American Flag and burned it in the 60s. Went to North Vietnam and entertain the enemy's troops or fled to Canada and/or Mexico when their country called.

The Drive-by Media will not show the video or audio of the racial epithets that the Democrats do. Why, because to will show the Liberal Democrats who ruined our nation how they really are.

All ObamaCare is about is Reparations. The Middle Class taxpayer gets screwed once again.

Watt,

Would say lol, but am too nauseated.

SB,
I was agreeing with you....in about 4 years they will come out with a cost figure that is more than double what it is now. Are you feeling less nauseated?

must admit liberal ger has in his life time said the n-word, still has trouble with interracial marriages, thinks some races are more harder workers than other and some are more educated than others but truelly belives as we keep moving forward, treat all more equally and finally get over all these predjudices this will all disapear and truthfully i think were passing these predjudices on from generation to generation-its learned if tou look at kids throw all the races together they dont see it, they fall in love with each other, love each other and care about each other till we step in and tell them how it is. like it or not the usa is a multi-race multi country nation-we were born from all races and actually the american indian was the original americans unless they wiped out some previous race we dont know about. even if many of us hate it eventually race will be a thing of the pass as the great founders wrote all men are created equal and the more years we grow the more this will come true!!

Fierce argument, Fst.

At least she writes more compelling posts than you do...

PH8-E....Chubby ones with guns and red faces all trying to yell the loudest

Oooh, welfare rollers! Nevermind that Steven Spielberg and Warren Buffett are Dems...

I'm a Progressive, and I pay my taxes, even though it means that I'm paying to repair the roads so Tea Partiers can drive to their rallies of political contrivance.

SB- The bill was posted online 3 days before the House voted on it. So that would mean that 3 days before voting, plus 2 days after voting equals 5 days!!! That's what wrong with you Repubs, just because you're too stupid to do simple math, you accuse everyone else of making the mistakes. BTW, I can hardly wait for the time when all us progressives can laugh in your faces and behind your backs (we love seeing you slink away after you make fools of yourselves) when President Obama is re-elected in 2016. The regressive party will remain the idiots they've always been.

jlw The idiot o has to get by 2012 first.If that should happen he would not be eligible to run in 2016.that is all the lessons have time for this morning.

Sure she represents all that is airheaded about America, but you've gotta admit it: Palin is HOT, and McCain knows that, so he's making the most of her. Who'd blame him? He's yesterday's news, anyway - but still suitable for wrapping up toxic fish ya got from a bad stream -

The bill that passed the Senate which was the one they voted on last was posted longer than that. That old the President is a liar routine should be over since everytime you guys post something it gets shot down because you do not do your homework

Rather see all those members of the GOP (GREAT OBSTRUCTIONIST PARTY) fired. Those idiots that mimic Rush Limbaugh marrionettes with NO, NO, NO. These members of the Great Obstructionist Party should expand their lexicon to more than three words; No, NO, No.

2016!!!!!! What a DF!!! jlw, Another liberal that never learned to read or do math. Don't yell at me people. There it is in black and white! Get an education dumbazz!

By 2016 everything will have come out about obama, all the lies he has been telling and you dumbazzez have believed! Only problem is we'll be paying 50% taxes to pay for all his screw-ups!

SB: The bill that just passed has been around for weeks. It hasn't changed except for the 200 Republican amendments that were included in it- but that was posted as well.

the short videos are on the web, so don't fret, just look a little harders.

SB: Oh, sure, it must be made up! Of course those tea party protestors would never be racist! or homophobic! LOL. That's what their whole "movement" is really about!

Bunch of angry old white people.

Ah yes, demonize us, because you can't win a debate on the issues. If we the Tea Partiers are against runaway spending, an out of control debt, and a federal government that has grown far too large, you must be for those things, right? Or do you concede that those things are true?

Here,

http://unrepentanttepartier.blogspot.com/2010/03/keeping-debate-relevant.html

And then try this one, in this article in the UK Times, they tell you how we Americans just had a whole bunch of our bonds at auction, but nobody bought them because they think our economy is a terrible risk. I hate to say that we told you so, but it has started. Pretty good bet MSN doesn't mention this.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c51fbbce-3908-11df-8970-00144feabdc0.html

Funny. People on here don't want big government yet you all complained when the bank system failed and found that if there had been stricter regulations on them this would have either been prevented to not to have been so bad. Our health care system needs fixing so people cried about how crappy the system was. Then something is finally done about it and now you all cry. If you left it all to non government entities nothing would get done. If not for our government our kids would not be educated, fires put out, crimminals caught and our planes watched to make sure they don't crash into each other. Sorry to say that sometimes we need government to step in. Right now we need them to step in and get things fixed. I don't trust Corporate America at all, or at least I don't trust them as much.

Teaparty is just another name for republican. Period.

lib50

These people are plain stupid they are going to split the votes on the GOP side and they will have even less people in Government ... Kind of make me wonder if they finally lost the marbles from to much stress >>>>> LOL LOL LOL

Fifty percent? Highly unlikely you'll ever personally see that tax bracket. My famly happens to be in it, which means we are also the ONLY group who will be taxed more to pay more in to Medicaid and you know what? That's ok. And why is it ok? Well, we're a family of ACTUAL patriots. My green beret husband is now retired but still overseas, has had cancer from all that desert sun exposure to his fair eyes, been shot FIVE times... and he supports health care, as do I because just like making sure he helps keep you free, his time would be wasted, as would mine, if all his SACRIFICE (which is what is required, by definition, in order to be considered a "patriot") because it would by really hypocritical to fight for people at home who, if they got sick, might lose all their freedom... no pursuit of happiness if you have no insurance and you get very ill. You lose your home or, because your ridiculously high medical bills ruined your credit, you can't own a home. Or a car. Or furniture. Or get braces for your kids. Or give to charity. Or ever take a vacation. Or get an education. Americans need to realize that it's cheaper to take care of each other than to indenture the hardest working but least earning of us.

I'll pay my higher share of taxes and I will be glad of it if it helps my neighbor. The cashier at the gas station who says good morning every day and makes sure i get the fresh coffee. The guy who mows my lawn. And even though I'm not religious, I am fairly sure it makes me a better Christian and American than ANY Tea Bagging wanna-be pseudo-patriot.

It's not about party lines or money. It's about being a decent human being.

Kudos to you for being a good human being. Need more people like you.

Dear peanut,butter and jelly,

Thank God for people like you, May the lord hold you in the palm of his hand.

PeanutButterandJelly: Good for you. Thanks

Fifty percent? Highly unlikely you'll ever personally see that tax bracket.

Unfortunately, everyone will soon see that tax breacket, because our debt is growing exponentially. What we have done is to sell bonds that accumulate compound interest for other countries like Japan, China and Russia, the interest on those bonds is paid by our tax dollars. It accumulates non-stop, every minute of every day, and the more our federal government spends, the more debt they add on. We HAVE to pay that debt, just like we have to pay the debt on our credit cards. It eats and increasingly larger chunk of every person's work day. This bill not only adds immediate debt, but it schedules debt to be added yearly. So, eventually, and when I say eventually, that's within the next ten years unless you believe that some magician will waive a magic wand and suddenly turn our economy around into a succession of huge budget surplusses, our debt will be larger than our GDP. It's not crazy talk from a bunch of radicals at a Tea Party, it is a methmatical certainty.

My famly happens to be in it, which means we are also the ONLY group who will be taxed more to pay more in to Medicaid and you know what? That's ok.

If your group is the only one that'll be taxed, than I suppose the mandate that forces people to buy insurance has been taken out of the bill? Or the tax on small businesses that don't have healthcare for their employees now?

And why is it ok? Well, we're a family of ACTUAL patriots. My green beret husband is now retired but still overseas, has had cancer from all that desert sun exposure to his fair eyes, been shot FIVE times... and he supports health care, as do I because just like making sure he helps keep you free, his time would be wasted, as would mine, if all his SACRIFICE (which is what is required, by definition, in order to be considered a "patriot") because it would by really hypocritical to fight for people at home who, if they got sick, might lose all their freedom... no pursuit of happiness if you have no insurance and you get very ill. You lose your home or, because your ridiculously high medical bills ruined your credit, you can't own a home. Or a car. Or furniture. Or get braces for your kids. Or give to charity. Or ever take a vacation. Or get an education. Americans need to realize that it's cheaper to take care of each other than to indenture the hardest working but least earning of us.

Well, thank your husband on my behalf for his service. As far as the rest of it goes, the Democrats claim this bill will cover 30 million people. Most of those people will not be paid for BY US, meaning those you have labeled as greedy and heartless, but they will pay for themselves, because they have been mandated to do so, correct? That leaves about 10 million people which this bill covers, while it strips about 2 million people who were getting prescription drug coverage from their former employers like AT&T and Verizon and throws them onto Medicare. It costs a trillion dollars (that's number now, and you and I both know that number will be MUCH higher one the thing starts rolling), plus it cuts Medicare benefits by 500 billion. That's a trillion and a half to cover ten million people, plus it does all the opther damage. It's a bad bill. The only way liberals can debate this is to focus the argument on how heartless we Tea Partiers are to try to deny someone coverage, when in fact we are not hearltless, we want those people who aren't covered to be covered, we just want it to be done a little smarter than this. I mean, if this is the best our politicians can come up with, then we need new politicians.

I'll pay my higher share of taxes and I will be glad of it if it helps my neighbor. The cashier at the gas station who says good morning every day and makes sure i get the fresh coffee. The guy who mows my lawn.

Don't forget the crack whores and the drug dealers. Look, you want to help them by "giving" them insurance, and we want to help them by saving them from the violence that will come about if our economy collapses, which it is doing. In case you missed it, we just had an auction of our bonds, and nobody bought them because they think our economy is a bad risk. Did you get that? The rest of the world thinks the American economy is a mess, and it's too risky. That means we can't fund these spending programs with money we get from selling bonds, we have to either raise taxes A LOY, or cut spending including entitlement spending A LOT.

And even though I'm not religious, I am fairly sure it makes me a better Christian and American than ANY Tea Bagging wanna-be pseudo-patriot.

I'm a Tea bagger and I'm an agnostic. There's a lot of us in the movement. Most of us are libertarians, we really don't give a crap about social issues like abortion, religion, etc...We are frumpy people. My wife is an accountant, I was an engineer and now I'm an estimator. We don't have the dynamic speakers like the lawyers among the liberal crowds. We are numbers crunchers, and these numbers don't add up. Despite what the media or the Democratic leadership may be telling you, we want to help this country, not harm innocent people.

It's not about party lines or money. It's about being a decent human being.

It's also about not swallowing the propaganda. There are 13 million teabaggers now accoring to the latest Quinnipac poll, and growing. I know it's much easier for you to ignore what we say in the debate about the issue of runaway spending and debt if you view us as "indecent" human beings, but we're just people. We go to work. We play with our kids. We walk the dogs. We go shopping, same as you. We just think we have a clearer view of the future of this country if the spending and entitlements aren't stopped and slashed. Don't fall into the trap the Democrats want you to fall into. Don't make the debate about how evil we are. Make the debate about how we're going to pay for all this.

You're an idiot.

You're an idiot.

Precisely the sort of clever debate I expect from the liberals. Apparently, they all have the plan for cutting spending and getting us out of debt, but they're holding it close to the vest and they'll unveil it leading up to the elections, because I haven't heard it yet, have you?

Bearsy,
The are scared...bottom line

watt75 The only one that is scared are the Liberals that are screwing this country. They know that in eight more months they won't be around. Then you will see the violent protests and brick throwing by the Liberals, if they are not doing it to their own now to get symphony. After what I've seen in the White House, I wouldn't put it past them,.. Next time, you might take off that purple SEIU shirt. Too obvious.

Chuck,
That is so true. They really think we are idiots..

they want sympathy, not symphony. Unless of course they're music aficionados.

whats your problem? nancy could of been shot and killed-hate her you do but even bortz who I cant stand stood up for her-she hung tough and basically saved a health care bill she strongly believes in into law-you republicans who hate her give her credit-shes strong and gets things done-even if the other side hates her-she pushed through a monumental thing which truthfully takes courage if your side truelly wants to repell this you better come up with string leaders like her who wont waiver even if it means the end of there political career-you have no couregeous leaders like this-they basically follow there lobbyist and will do what ever there puppet masters say to get reelected-hate nancy ok-but if you want to really repell this you need a true blue leader who will stand up for you-i say you have none we have leaders and they get the job done!!

Pelosi and company did not want to use the tunnel....why should they...this was a proud moment for them...this was a proud moment for America...they were proud to walk down the street....proud to be seen....if they would have used the tunnels then the right would have said they were scared, that they were hiding...

bearsy

In age of camera phones and recording devices why did no one get evidence. Why, when capital security told pelosi et al to go through underground tunnels from offices to capital did she refuse. This was reported on CNN, FOX and CBS. Would it be because she wanted to through it in face of conservatives? Also what was Civil rights march reinactment all about. Knowing a little about security proceeders and asumming congress has best security in world why are they on TV crying about threats. Any security force would not want them to go public until they had chance to investigate. Why hundreds of tea parties and no violence until now. Would it be because DEMS want to change debate. Should I go on.....

The violence happened after one side lost something they felt was important to them. Often when people lose something they resort to violence, that is why no violence until now. And it shouldn't supprise anyone, after all the screaming and name calling and yelling in the face of mothers and children that lost family because they had no health care coverage. The DEMS arent changing the debate anyway. Keep spewing out the propaganda you are feed.

Funny how all these conservatives scream for proof from Democrats and yet they are perfectly content following conservative voices blindly. Hmm.. weapons of mass destruction...

risha, get off your butt and buy your own insurance. I don't want to pay for yours. Do you know you can buy insurance for $9 a month. Not great insurance but good. I have a brain and can think for myself. Here is proof.....Rush Limbaugh is dope. Not well informed. Glenn Beck's info is dead on. His opinions, at time are off base in my opinion. Hannity, is a partisian hack. MSNBC, the whole channel are partisian hacks. This healthcare bill is all about taking from haves and giving to have nots. This has been going on for years but this bill is ridiculous. This proves Many dems are socialists at best and communists at worse.

@bearsy link that 9 dollar insurance please. Also, what is wrong with helping people?!?

Duke Insurance. Nothing wrong with helping. I help many. Not that you would believe me. This is forcing me to help people. I don't mind helping those who truely need help but as most of us know. There are alot of lazy asses out there. I won't help those people. they need to help themselves first.

I'll tell you where the Teachers Union in Alabama,you can get coverage for about $9.00 a month,It is not full coverage but it covers some. Unions are screwing us when they get cheaper insurance,its paid for by the Tax Payers. You will not have to worry,soon there will be no Doctors that take Government insurance,and we will be like Cuba and Venezuela.

Risha The whole world believed that there was WMD in Iraq. Their Dictator came out and said there was WMD's. Your Boy CLINTON said there were WMD in Iraq.

http://www.jrwhipple.com/war/wmd.html But Clinton didn't have a set to do anything about it. We got attacked on American Shores on 9/11, in part thanks to No Set Clinton. Bush had a set and done something about it and you complain.

Yes the war in Iraq cost us $$$$, but if No SET CLINTON would have done his job and used his head instead receiving it, there would have been NO 9/11.

risha

They walked through the Tea Party to show the crowd, that they could not intimidate the house of representatives. You are blaming the victims of the hate mongers. It took courage to walk through the violent and nasty Tea Party members. The Tea Party members are being used by Sarah Palin, Beck, old Russ, the Fox network and republicans. The Tea Party members act like spoiled children, that did not get their way. Throwing temper tantrums, spitting on people and calling them nasty names. Did you see the two Tea Party members that harassed a man that was sick and wanted health care reform? Didn't Fox show that? Grow up and act like adults. I have been called filthy names by a Tea Party member, because I disagreed with him. I am sure Searchlight, NV will enjoy taking the Tea Party members money, an increase in the towns economy. Will they make the citizens vote against Reid, I doubt it. People that live in the desert think for themselves and they do not like strangers telling them what to think or do. This rally may help Reid get elected. That courage a bully will never understand.

Bearsy, that Democrat=socialist nonsense is old hat. I'm glad Searchlight will fill its coffers. That's the only good the TeaBaggin' Republicans have managed here, fools that they are!

Spriggs You brand the Tea Baggers with Republicans. I can see you are mis-informed by the Liberal / Solialistic Democrats and the Drive by media. Tea Baggers are Republicans, Independents and Democrats who are sick and tired of what the Liberal / Socialistic Democrats are doing to this country.

Now you have the Rest of the Story!

ph8-E

We have no problem helping people, just don't hold a gun to our heads to force us. That is armed robbery.

Nonsense

"liberal/socialistic (what is that?) democrats....(and) tea baggers are repubs, indeps. and demos..."

You forgot to add "racists, demagogues, etc.". Hey, how much did the "reloader" had to be paid to speak this time?

Ger, could you please go back to school and learn how to punctuate. Please, somebody else explain to Ger what punctuate means. I'm sure one of you liberals got an education and aren't just into welfare. You might not want to let JOE above, he's a little too high strung. Someone might want to explain to him and others that there were people of all races at the tea party.

The Tea Party people started out with good intentions, lower taxes, smaller government, take control of our country back from both parties. Great. But, then Palin quit her job and turned out to be only out to make a lot of money, Glenn Beck lost his mind and started preaching and reading from the Bible, and one thing people don't know is that conservative Jews got ahold of the Tea Party without them even knowing it. For example, Ben Stein is a good friend of Glenn Becks. He wrote a book about 3 years ago called Can America Survive? In that book, Stein says the exact same things that Glenn Beck made his documentary about. The information was all given to Beck from Ben Stein. Charles Krauthammer is on Fox News all the time. He goes on and on about how Obama won't help Israel. Now I find out he is Jewish. He doesn't want anyone pointing out that the Tea Party people are on SS and Medicare while they are protesting socialized medicine. If you go into his website and say one thing to the Beck religious people, they lock you out of there after about 5 posts. They check people's ISP addresses before they let you post one time. The conservative Jews have a big interest in keeping the Tea Party people fighting against Obama because they don't want Obama to get re-elected. They fear Israel is going to have to bomb Iran soon and that the US won't help Israel. Many of the talking heads on Fox get filthy rich from writing books they sell to the poor people who follow them. Some of them are decent people, but Palin found a way to write books and do a reality show though becoming famous in politics. Next we will her she is moving to Hollywood, into a 5 million dollar mansion. Beck was honest in the beginning, but he can't stop the Dems from passing anything they want with the nuclear option, and he went off on a religious avenue, which alienated people of other faiths and non-believers. He's losing viewers and he lost over 30 commercial sponsors. I saw one lady in Charles Krauthammer's boards who said that Glenn Beck told her to go and ask her pastor if her church teaches social justice, so she did. She also was told by Glenn Beck to ask her pastor if the church teaches her children to take care of the environment, so she did. Beck told her to quit her church if these things were going on, so she did. We have talking heads telling people to leave their churches and that god will save them, god will beat Obama and there are people in this country who actually believe this stuff. Now you know what's wrong with this country.

If Obama was so set on helping people, why doesn't he help his Auntee, who is in this country illegally, and share his wealth. Taxpayers are sick and tired of paying for Obama's Illegal Alien Auntee. I helping my three daughters and their families through hard times. I think that Obama could do the same for his Auntee.

No he rather have the taxpayer pick up the tab for his relatives. People are out of work, starving and Obama can entertain 360 days last year. Wonder if taxpayers are picking up his entertainment tab?

You teaparty/republicans need to calm down and instead of ratcheting up the violent rhetoric, start coming up with workable solutions and work together instead of taking your toys and leaving when you can't get everything you want. You didn't complain with any other president, especially one who took the most vacations of any of them. You people are just angry republicans who can't stand not being in power.

BEARSY,

Anybody else call this guy on his $9 a month health insurance claim? Well, I did. Why? Because I was curious and because I have heard this from plenty of other ignorant anti-reformers. I filled out their "quick quote form" with the best possible answers; in other words, I checked non-smoking, put in ideal weight for height, etc. And what is the lowest quote I got? $132 a month! That is for 90% coverage and comes with an easily affordable (yes, this is sarcasm Bearsy) $2500 deductible. BUT wait! There's also $3000 out of pocket expenses and any prescriptions range from $10-$65! There is also mention of "coinsurance for co-pays. I'm not sure about this, but I think this might require more coverage from another carrier! AND this was only for me. A young, healthy individual. Never mind the kids or spouse; they don't need coverage I guess! And from experience I can tell you that there IS MUCH MUCH more not mentioned here...fine print and tactics they WILL employ (they do it everyday) that will deny any claims you do eventually make, when you need them the most!

BUt don't worry Bearsy, you're not alone. NONE of the other claims I checked on from people like you were accurate either...not even close! And that's a point I've been arguing for a long time: the anti-reformers are simply ignorant of what our current system is all about. Read up on it a little and find what millions are having to suffer through before you make up your mind. EXPERIENCE one or more of the insurance giants rejections when it concerns YOUR child for a disease or injury you could never prevent or thought was already covered only for them to find a loophole. There are MILLIONS of examples like this and worse...and these are from people that are insured!!! Like I've been saying for a long time: you'll get it when you live it and then you will want it!

GER,Risha,Joan- Good God! You have made some seriously flawed leaps of illogic here. Nancy Pelosi a strong leader!?!? GER-Give me an unlimited supply of taxpayer cash to toss at a bunch of liberal acolytes and I'll have them agree to invade China tomorrow! Risha- Since you are obviously a liberal- do you remember how your peaceful, open-minded liberal pals treated Bush? See any similarities here? Joan- The pot calling he kettle black- I hear a lot of Madcow and Olbermann in your post. You don't believe them do you? The idea that something is better than nothing is unfathomable to me. The tricks(2014), gimmicks (Medicare) and outright lies (deficit reduction) render this unconstitutional POS health care bill the biggest con ever perpetrated on this country. I certainly won't defend Bush since he started this big government avalanche- but for our sake, look past the BS and honestly see what this type of largesse is going to cost our descendants. There is not one person in this world who understands what these idiots passed- 2700 pages (not including amendments). We already face a day of reckoning on social security and now this! We are bankrupt and screwed- please let your kids know that you supported this monstrosity so they won't blame me when I'm old. Thanks in advance!

No, stop sight there. Once you have learned the English Language, you may restart your rant.

Mike,

First, you need to be more concise. As soon as you mention the "lies" about Iraq, you lose credibility. Please review the statements of Bill and Hillary, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and any number of the European leaders about Saddam and WMDs. I didn't support going into Iraq, but this continual whining about Bush lying is just boring.

There is no one on the world stage that is better at stretching the truth than our current Snake Oil Salesman in Chief.

SB? How is it I lose credibility when I mention 'lies' and 'Iraq'? Do you not remember 'yellow cake'? Don't you recall 'wmds'? Don't you remember Iraq's noncomplicity with Al Qaeda? Do we not all know about the faking up of nonexistent documentation to convince Congress to fund the war? Exactly where is it that my credibility is lost? Have you been in a coma for 8 years? (shrugging)

So Mike, according to your closing sentences, On the other hand, if they change their ways to fit your ways things would be fine. At the very minimum, that's not human nature.

Once amnesty for illegals is rammed through in the same manner the Marxist / Democrat party will have it's guaranteed vote - most minorities.

Then the fire fight really begins. It will be evident then that the Dems are trying to turn this country from a Constitutional Republic where the minority rights aren't trampled by the majority to a socialist democratic republic (Union of American Socialist Republic maybe?) where the ruling party has all of the control and can't be removed.

Mike: Standing O!

Not to beat an old, old, dead horse - but - it seems to me that the whole "lie" and "misleading" thing came about and was put out there by the Democrats - who are REALLY trustworthy - (Rangel? Jefferson? anyone, anyone) as soon as they saw how pissed their extreme lefty-pacifist -appeasing base was.

Then it became - "Well, HE LIED TO ME! I wouldn't have voted for it if he would have told us everything"

As SB from Cincy so inconveniently points out to you - the Democrats in the late '90s were up in front of Congress saying we had to take out Hussein. "The Inconvenient Truth" is that AL Gore himself stood up before the Senate in September of 1998 saying that very thing. Because of Saddam Hussein's procurement of WMD's he had to be stopped even if it meant killing him ourselves.

SB inCincy - Standing O!

Mike and LyndaAZ - A pox on both your houses for your lies.

we gave saddam the wmd's when he did our dirty work and fought Iran

mikey

Are you really bothered by what you call lies?

Do all lies bother you or just those you claim are made by people of a certain political persuasion?

Great post, Mike! Remember that you can't talk sense to people who have none. It's a waste of time and breath. Your points are well taken by those of us who have the intellect to read and understand.

This health care just another entitlement but at a cost to those in the middle and the youth of tomorrow, a burden to them along with those not yet born. It actually isn't about health as much as it is about control. It isn't about the truth in the bill as much as it is about deceit in the 2000 page plus stack of stuff which includes over 20 new taxes.

"Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence".

"To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the crocodile, hoping he will eat you last- but eat you he will".

Ronald Reagan.

I rally the troops, fight for the truth, the right for free speech and representation for presentation of ideals that will actually make life better for those that are in pursuit of life and liberty. To be represented by honest politicians that wish to do the people's work without greed and corruption. To shout down those that lie and have ill will in their hearts and seek only incrimination through falsehoods and even more deceit. Democrats=liberalism=socialism=communism.

An informed electorate is the one thing that strikes terror into the hearts of every politician who has blatantly distorted the truth on issues and opponents. Boehner and the republican leadership have been guilty of this sin for a protracted period of time now.

This could be a really good point, if you take out the partisan slant. This is not a tactic that is exclusive to Republicans (or Democrats for that matter).

As a counter point example:

I hear four things consistently from supporters of this new health care law; almost the exact same words... Every time... Every person. It's uncanny.

1. "It may not be perfect, but we have to do something!"

The result of the plethora of emotional arguments that were used to manipulate the public.

2. "I don't know about that, I haven't read it."

I'm not making this up. This is the inevitable response to the points that I bring up from the text itself. This is caused by the neo-con-right-wing-nut black brush that has been used to paint all who oppose it, and if you bother to read it, you are assumed to be off your rocker by the effort alone as well apparently. Which leads to...

3. "But, they're going to re-work it and fix those things later. You're running scared. You need to trust them. It'll be okay."

I'm not even sure where this comes from. This is pure eyes-glazed-over pathological optimism. I'm sure there is a group-think mob psychology explanation... But it's weird.

4. "You don't know what you are talking about. Stop watching Fox news, (I don't) and listening to Republicans."

Again, the result of the above mentioned all-who-oppose-are-brain-washed-crazies rhetoric.

In my experience the majority of those that support this new law create not only an abysmally uninformed electorate, but they choose to be so. Most seem to be intent upon shoving their fingers in their ears and drumming their heels on the floor and muttering 'It'll-be-okay-they'll-fix-it-you-are-a-paranoid-neocon-if-you-read-it', over and over and over and...

Well, you get the point.

Creating an social negative perspective about those that inform themselves is a tactic that both sides employ, and it's been used here specifically in an effort to placate the public.

For the record, I am a registered Independent voter, that happens to lean left more often than not. I come from a long line of Democrats. I consider myself a liberal. I feel obligated to add, that my own family, and quite a few friends think I'm crazy, not only for so vehemently opposing this, but for bothering to look up the specifics in the text.

Mike,

I agree with a great deal of what you have to say, but (isn't there always a but?) the Founding Fathers of this Country did not create this country as a Democracy. They had seen too many cases (including the French Revolution) in which a democratic majority strips all minorities of any power. They created this as a Republic. In a Republic, the electorate (informed or not) elects people to represent them and use "their best judgment" and to "act in the interests of their Country, not those who elected them."

The Founding Fathers did not envision that the vote would ever be widespread. Most people were illiterate or semi-literate and it was difficult for people to keep themselves truly informed. Most people just worked sunup until sundown seven days a week just to survive. The Founding Fathers did refer a lot to an "informed electorate" but by that they really meant themselves --- people with sufficient wealth and position to keep up with the sciences and international politics and the latest political theory, etc. They felt that a wealthy, educated and informed upper class would serve as a sort of check and balance to make sure that those elected were truly acting in the best interests of the country.

The Founding Fathers could completely understand the logic behind letting a slave owner cast 3/5 of a vote on behalf of every adult male slave and indentured servant, in addition to his own. But they, to a man, thought women incapable of sufficient reasoning to be allowed to vote.

Times change. The idea of an informed electorate should be coming closer and becoming more widespread because of the easy available of factual information and the ease of checking out what politicians claim and the media says. But instead we are going the other way. "King Lie" rules as much as it every did in the worst days of yellow journalism. Huey Long's view of the stupidity of the average voter is just as true now as it was when he said it.

What has been added to the debate is not "informed" opinions. It is just opinions without a single shred of conscious and independent thought behind them. People hide behind the anonymity of the web and group meetings and shout things that they would never say in front of their mother. And when challenged the shouters back down. They are not people to be feared because they scurry away from light.

A great example is the 55,000 people who attended the first Tea Bagger rally in Washington. While the protest was still going on, they found a firemen (since repudiated) who opined that there were at least 70,000 people there. And he should know, his job was setting up barricades. Then within hours it was a half million people. By that night Beck was claiming 1.5 million people and using 10-year-old pictures of another event to substantiate it. And when the dust has finally settled, Faux News still claims that 3 million people attended.

Or Eric Cantor's statement in a press conference that his office has been fired on "by those from the left" because of his "vote on health care." Later he changed this to say that it was anti-Semites who fired on him because he was a Jew (he was a speaker at AIPAC so this went over well.) The police report says that a bullet fired into the air from some distance, possibly miles, away came down at a sharp angle breaking the glass in his office. It did penetrate the window, but did not damage the closed blinds and was found intact about a foot inside the window. As of a few minutes, Faux News was still claiming that left wingers fired into his office because of his health care opposition.

This is not how we achieve an informed electorate.

@Chris-537131,

I refer you to a recent political book called Just How Stupid Are We? It's about the nonsense that people on both sides tend to believe, and how the credulity of the American electorate often opens a Pandora's box of poor decisions, bad outcomes, and general mayhem.

Anybody who could believe that a public official who quit her job to become a media personality and make big bucks is presidential material needs his head examined, period. Anybody who could scream about the primacy of the Constitution and then happily listen to this same person tell them that "we need a commander-in-chief in office not a Constitutional law professor" without running from the room needs his head examined twice.

I don't doubt many in the Tea Party movement are sincere people who have studied the issues and don't like what they're seeing in government--- but the fact that so many also see Republican nutjobs as leaders troubles me. Big time.

I think the rule is if you don't have a costume, you at least have to have a drum or a fife. No coffee may be consumed by Tea Party members except when they're not wearing a gun on their hip, and yes, Sarah Palin is now the official court jester of the Tea Party, having taken Carrot Tops place after he brought a copy of the Constitution to a meeting. Bringing the copy wasn't a problem but he started reading it out loud and was run out of town on a rail!