The government sent benefit checks to 20,000 departed Americans over three years, totaling more than $180 million.
Obama to agencies: Don't pay dead people
Seeded on Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:37 PM EDT (msnbc.com)
— Filed under: politics, white-house, barack-obama, corporate-news, joe-biden, personnel, peter-orszag


Perhaps MSNBC shoud re-do this title? Instead of "Don't pay dead people" it should be more accurate and say..
Obama: Don't pay dead people, just make sure they are registered to vote Democrat
smit-o-rama,
if you're bringing politics into this, what about all the presidents and political parties before Barry, like Jimmy, Ronnie, Bill and we can't forget Georgie, can we?
This isn't anything new that started just last year!
Hellooo IL voter...this IS POLITICS - smit didn't bring politics into anything.
Did you read the story? Our government likes to pay dead people, aka FRAUDULENT CLAIMS. So they need to be reminded NOT TO DO IT AGAIN. Maybe they should concentrate on reading the applications FIRST before they cut a check or hand out a debit card this time? Might help.
Why not just include an "are you deceased?" question on the application form?
Perhaps enforce the laws regarding forgery/identity theft?
vote
did you read the part about "over the last three years"?
Boy oh boy progressives! Its not looking good for your "chosen one" right now. Normally after a president does a major speaking engagement his numbers have always risen (historical fact).
Not so for Obama who's numbers actually fell almost a full 4-5 points on avg (multiple polls) after his debacle a few nights ago. Almost 60% strong disapproval rating at this point coupled by an even more damaging 72% disapproval rating by non-affiliated voters (Independents).
So yes, when mentioning the registering of dead people to vote it is a legitimate concern since Obama and the progressives are obviously going to require that demographic in the near future to have even a glimmer of a chance of staying in office.
Of course you can always keep on living in your little pretend worlds by deluding yourselves into thinking that AP-GDK polls showing Obama & progressives with commanding leads, etc.
smit
Please provide a link for your historical facts. No, a link to you’re a@s won’t work.
smit is preparing his rant that the dems cheated when Obama is reelected. Never to early to start preparing the whine.
Bobo will "form a committee to discuss it" then make some trips to "discuss it" and do an interview with Keith I'm angry everyone hates me except morons, Cris I forgot he was Black, Rachel Madcowdisease or Katie Pom Pom Kouric to "discuss it" or schedule an address to the nation to "discuss it" or "discuss it" on his weekend radio address. He's also good at sending his FN toilet mouth moron VP Biden to stutter about it... or one of the other MARXIST lap dogs from his Marxist Regime to "discuss it", but that's always the extent of what Bobo CAN do.
Yes sir, if there is one thing Bobo the Marxist Clown CAN do is "discuss things".
NO, he cannot actually DO ANYTHING or achieve efficient, worthwhile results, but he sure can "discuss".
BOBO the Marxist Clown and his Marxist Regime of Anti-American, ACORN pickin', SEIU Pimpin' SLUGS.
His "discussion" might well entail "how can we stop paying them but keep them on the voter registration roll?".
I doubt "vote" can retain much of what he is able to read,,he seems more interested in just yelling out whatever comes to his mind at the time,,facts donnot get in the way either.
The administration is taking steps to cut waste and fraud, as it should. As administrations should have over the past generation.
This isn't a political issue in any way. To use it as a springboard for an attack on the current administration is utterly ridiculous.
When are some of us going to grow up?
This isn't politics, it's government - specifically, a completely failed, inept, federal government rife with fraud, abuse, illegal activity and morons.
We have to stop these stooges who are just far enough out of reach that no one feels like they can do anything.
Dem, Ind and Rep alike, they have all contributed to our extremely incompetent, bloated, nearly worthless federal government.
From oil spills to Mexican drug lords living on protected American soil in AZ where our citizen's are warned off by the signs spelling out the heavily armed drug lords, to paying dead people, to spending several TRILLION dollars a year creating and doing a whole lot of nothing.
The most important thing that we can do in the next 1,2,4, 10 years is to shrink the federal government by 50%, stop supporting the UN, bring ALL of our troops home and let the world fend for itself for a while.
I gather your referring to ACORN and the slander against that program , guess what, if you took the time you would know they were cleared of any wrong doing! Your point in bringing it up is?
By your logic, these dead people voted for Obama. But, it wasn't Obama in charge at the time of the election. So...who's administration allowed these dead people to vote for Obama, then?
Apparently you're misunderstanding the story. This is about benefit checks that are STILL being sent out to people after they died- meaning they were collecting the checks when they were alive.
It has nothing to do with putting a deceased person on any application. They're referring to automatic payments that should have stopped at death, but didn't.
President Obama is trying to fix the problem, he did not create it, He is trying to stop wasteful spending, you people will find something wrong in anything our President does, at least it's better than no, no, no, no, no, no!
Most of these payments are made to people that were already collecting and died during their time of collecting payments, which probably means relatives have been still collecting the money on behalf of the deceased.
An Illinois voter, But you forgot one thing, THEY ONLY VOTE DEMOPCRAT.
So George and Ronald didn't get the VOTES it was Jimmy and ALBERT.
why not ask the well off to forgo the un-needed checks, i fully plan to (should that be the case) thank you very much.
LOL!!! I bet they do it anyway!!
It's called redistribution of wealth - that's why he won.
BOBO the Marxist Clown and his Marxist Regime of Anti-American, ACORN pickin', SEIU Pimpin' SLUGS.
you are a poo poo mouth
you are a poo poo mouth
Vote & Speedo...If we were able to combine the grey matter you two have, we would not have enough substance to make a pimple on Obama's butt. You guys are over matched when you try to debate with anyone.
Another agency? What is it a few thousand obummer has created this year.
wizard
Which agency is that?
Someone has to monitor and update the database so stay tuned,one is on the way hence the "?"
Could you please link us to the other three thousand agengies this administration created?
Don't you just love..Common sense should tell the Obama administration...that YOU don't pay dead people...
down
Just another bush program obama continued.
I remember all the "dead" people that voted in 2008. I would have hoped Obama's promise to change all that BAD stuff Bush did would have held up...What happened to that Hopey Changey thing? I think Obama has failed miserably on the Hope and Change thing. He will be a One term president...like his good buddy Carter.
usaf:
So if what you said is true, Obama in this case, is either:
1. Just like Bush
2. Worse than Bush, as he claimed he'd change the bad policies once he was in office
Which do you think...?
down
Provide one name of some one who was dead that you know that actually voted.
smyth
Don’t think anyone could be worse then bush.
Quoting someone who's IQ is neglible pretty much defeats the rest of your "critique".
Unless you simply enjoy the less than fine art of ad nauseum trolling, in which case carry on.
usaf:
So by eluding the answer, you appear to have said he's the same as Bush (as opposed to being worse). Isn't that exactly what he told us he would NOT be during the campaign?
Actually Smyth, since the story is about him trying to CHANGE what has been happening, he is different than Bush. Sounds like a good "changy' thing to me. "Hope" you agree.
Is Mickey Mouse dead or alive seeing as he was on a voter registration form?!
smyth
was bush,
1. a dick head?
2. the worst president in history?
which do you think?
And the paying to dead people was going on for years, the Obama Administration is trying to stop it!
Down Town, Don't bet your HOUSE on it. The AMERICAN PEOPLE are not to smart.Especially the younger Generation.
Sicken, your right. BUT why din't he do it before the ECLECTION before they all VOTED for HIM.
He was a SENATOR and KNEW what was going on. He used the DEAD VOTERS, Not only that, they had a women in Cleveland Ohio giving Druggies , DRUGS to fill out Registation Forms.
Usaf ret
Your question #6.4 has been referred to acorn for action. It seems they are the only ones who maintain a data base of dead voters.
DownTown...Do you talk like Sarah Palin on purpose? Maybe you should draw little things on your palm also...that might help you maintain continuity of thought. I am afraid however that nothing can help the intellect behind your ramblings.
And dont let them vote in the 2012 election...
I think they need to go SLOW before cancelling "voting rights for these dead people!"
JUDGEMENT DAY is November 2nd this year... and the Marxist parasitic TAX, TAX TAX and spend, spend, spend, spend us in to oblivion Democrats KNOW "many of the LIVING won't be voting for THEM.
They'll need every single dead guy they can find.
But hey... it's the CHICAGO way!
Fst Ede, They will be back for the next election. He just wants it to look like he is doing something. Its called FOOL THE VOTERS.
Just like HOPE AND CHANGE. Your Hoping he doesn't Steal your Change.
What about "mentally dead?"
Why does BOBO the MARXIST CLOWN gets a paycheck? He's "mentally dead!"
Raheem the Marxist Slug Emanuel also gets one? Eric the Marxist Holder?
If we just name the MARXISTS in BOBO's MARXIST REGIME that are "Brain Dead Anti-American Marxist Bums" that's a very long list of people that should not be getting paid.
If we ONLY look at "Congress, Senate and EVERY single government department or agency" there are tens of thousands of "useless, incompetent, ineffective, inefficient, brain-dead people living off of some "sorry-azz excuse for a job" that deserve to be FIRED?
EXCEPT for our United States Military... shut down all other agencies, fire everyone, cancel ALL FEDERAL PENSIONS IMMEDIATELY!
Sell and/or demolish all those USELESS buildings in DC and every other state.
All that's left is our Military and our Justice system and courts.
all that money can be used for POLICE PROTECTION, DEFENSE, ROADS, SCHOOLS and every AMERICAN CITIZEN's favorite... BORDER CONTROL, ENFORCEMENT and PROSECUTION!
It is nice to dream.
JUDGEMENT DAY #1: NOVEMBER 2nd 2010.
JUDGEMENT DAY #2: NOVEMBER 6th 2012.
but I like Groucho, Harpo, Chico and Zeppo.
Why do you want to turn the US into North Korea?
Speedo...The leader of our country should be proficient in identifying all alternative solutions to a problem and following a thorough analysis of the alternatives, calmly and confidently develop and execute Plan A, Plan B, etc. This is the mode of operation used by President Obama and it is helpful that he is more intelligent than a whole room full of his detractors. It is also why he has been able to accomplish more to benefit the vast number of American citizens than any previous President. He gets the job done! His facing up to big oil, Wall Street, big insurance and pharmaceuticals will result in benefits to most Americans. All of this while stimulating the economy to stop our severe recession and providing tax breaks for most Americans will be viewed by historians as super human and heroic. Much still must be done to reach a fair balance between the needs of business and industry and the needs of the general public. President Obama wisely promotes measured steps in that direction…and, when that governmental balance is achieved our country will be the better for it. President Obama represents our best and brightest hope for competent national leadership.
"Obama to agencies: Don't pay dead people"
Conservatives to Libbies: Don't elect dead people
Libbies to Conservatives: don't elect brain dead people
Dead people been voting for Libs and Barry Obame for a loooong time....
Obama = Stupid!
yeah, and the real smart ones vote for Sarah P. (clearly, she's a live wiggly one)
Note to pubs (and I'm one): those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Workingman...If you had a small fraction of President Obama's brain power you might be dangerous...or, at least equal to Palin.
Besides doing all that, which is good if it works..
How about trying to get back some of that money that went into the wrong hands!!!
What a stupid idea. Much cheaper to calculate the opposite. Just make a list of the money that went into the right hands.
You can`t get across to the lemmings Smyth, they like the "orator in cheif"
They're just getting in practice to provide health care subsidies for illegal aliens.
I see talking here is just a waste of time name calling and lack of any intelligence what so ever! From reading the opinions here I would sear they all sound like teenagers calling each other names. I think I'll search for adults to relate to!
This is not fair. Dead people have rights...There's gonna be lawsuits.
It does beg the unobvious question: how many dead people on this list are actually still alive? I mean, this is a government database right?
Billy don't laugh, You know who controls the Lawyers.
I don't know if anyone reading here wants to read something factual that isn't political but here goes. We bought our home in 1983 from a couple in their late 80s. We heard that they had died 4 or 5 years later. Every year since we moved into our home we have received mail for the husband from the social security administration once or twice a year. At first we wrote "no longer at this address" on the envelope and returned it to the post office. After we heard that they had died we wrote "deceased" across the envelope and returned it to the post office. The last one we returned was about 5 months ago. I don't understand why they think he is still at our address. I don't understand why they think he is still alive. Is this some kind of a record or does it happen a lot. Since the SSA is one organization that does know everyone's age couldn't they put a line in their computer program to flag mail going out to anyone over 110 years old?
I know there are people out there who blame everything on Obama but they often seem to bestow him with the ability to affect the past. Is this one of those cases?
Oh please, there is only one thing in the world stupider than our elected officials. That's our unelected career bureaucrats, who have six digit salaries, obscene benefits and pensions, and answer to nobody ever, not even their union can touch them.
Ok, here's a quiz.
1. How many of you have spent the last two years reading about hundreds of layoffs of thousands of people in private industry, city, county, state governments, education, police, fire, etc. ?
2. Here's the trick question. How many of you have spent the last two years reading about hundreds of layoffs of thousands of 'federal bureaucracy' workers? Anybody? Anybody at all know of a fed laid off because of budget cutbacks?
Someone has to report them dead, dah!
Rita, when they DIE ,the Coroner reports them DEAD DAHHH
Russell...Most of the Obama haters cannot count beyond the number of fingers on one hand. Don't expect them to get the drift of your message.
More government=more waste! Follow the money, get it back plus interest and put liars in jail! Cash for cons is not part of the stimulus-or is it?? In the interest of fairness & equality!!
Typing in bold makes me seem smarter, even if what I'm saying makes no sense whatsoever!!
Man... Pres Obama is just great. The man is attacking everything with knowledge and energy. Pres Obama seems to never get tired. Go Pres Obama straight ahead and keep up the great work. Yes we can
LOL!
The Best President we have ever had and the Repugs can't take it! I'm loving it. I can't wait for the 2012 elections when Obama chooses his running mate for his next four years, Hillary. Sorry Palin, you'll have to keep up with those botox injections for the next go round!
Yes, he's the BEST at bowing and apologizing and spending and lying and not being transparent and welcoming illegals and taking prizes he admits to not earning and starting a war and going on vacations instead of handling the Gulf spill...oh, and bowing again (just love seeing his buttocks in the air)! And his own party thinks he's sold out on health care.
Yes, he's the BESTest!!! the bestest ever!!! yea Obama!!!!!!!! Whoohooo!!
LOL! IF he's the BEST, then why has his rating been forever low - if he's THE BEST prez ever?!??
He's not the best President ever... but he's still doing a better job than any Republican ever has. Compared to the sheer incompetence of Bush, Reagan and Nixon, Obama is a flippin' genius!
Jon, you have a more realistic view. He isnt the best but he's doing better than the other option given at election time.
Jon
I know what you mean. I never liked Lincoln either. A war monger from the git go. That was quite a sweeping statement.
obumbo and dem rats did not want to pass tort reform on health reform which they knew it would save up to billions of dollars per year, but is pi$$ off over 180 million a yr. what a bunch of uncompetent buffons. Can't see the forrest because of the tree.You could say the the administration and congress are awol on saving an shouldn't get payed either they should be considered dead weight.
All this talk about money brought memories back to me,,,what ever happened to that $350 Billion that went MIA in Irac ? I bet Bushie and tricky Dick are still searching for it every spare moment they get. Unless of course it went to the departed ,,never to been seen again.
Obama to agencies: Don't pay dead people unless they vote democratically.
Duh, don't send dead people checks? Ya think?
Just make certain those records you check are correct please. For those whose sole income is dependant on that SS check, being prematurely declared dead could be a literal killer. It's happened in the past, on the rate, albeit statistically small, of 3-5 a year. Considering what a lousy job the govt does in record-keeping, I wouldn't trust them.
Does he mean "brain-dead"? In that case, Congress should not receive a red cent....
Did you know that Mccain collects his Social Security check? He can give it back after all he has five houses. Sara Palin gets disability payment , she should give them back too she is rich now. Don't you think. You know everyone doing their fare share!
Rita
Please stop giving other peoples money away. On top of that, don't you think he earned that bit of compensation?
Calvin...McCain has been feeding on public funds for many years. If he were paid based on his competency, he would have to refund most of his salary as Senator.
Anyone who cashed one of those checks should be put in jail.
MY God ,this isn't happening already? there I said it
The federal government shouldn't be paying alien invaders or traitors either, but it is. Every alien invader must go, and the traitors who refuse to enforce the law must be hung on the courthouse square.
well, aren't you a problem-solver.....
. . . John . . . I was just going to post that this is pocket change compared to what we are paying out for illegals . . . extremely pathetic! There is no need for violence however . . . all costs for illegals should be billed directly to those opposed to Arizona's Law and any other laws that are trying to stop this insanity . . .