The tone of the article isn't solely about GOP opposition... though there certainly is. There are individuals within the Democrat's herd that have issues with the continued mix of spend and cut and then spend message that is being moved about and the realization that there is no end to this under the current plan(?).

The article catches the air of the confusion being wrought by the leadership of this country. They have no clear plan or strategy and nobody there who will make the tough descisions. The tax cuts... followed by adding more taxes... and as this article cites - the deduction to Medicaid payments... to now the postponing of the cut... and the cry for benefit extensions admist the rising debt - all shows the confusion and unclear message.

It's sad... and worse yet, we've gotten so fat and lazy that we lack the survivalist pioneering mentality that built this nation.

I think I would jump for joy if Senators, Representatives, POTUS, and SCOTUS decided to work for free and from there... began to cut the fat out of the government.

We do not have the money to pay for this; perhaps that concept to to difficult for you to understand. Where is the Budget Congress????????????

Rat, great analysis. The TPM has finally been heard loud and clear as evidenced by democrats refusal to put their necks out any further than they already are. Its time for political leaders on both sides to acknowledge what most of us already know, that we are in deep, deep, trouble, then devise a workable plan to stop the bleeding and turn this mess around. The only way out is to take whatever measures needed to insure growth in the private sector of our economy, exercise fiscal responsibility at all levels of government, implement real immigration reform that controls our boarder, implement a practical energy policy that eventually not only moves us toward independence, but potentially as an exporter of energy, evaluation of all entitlement spending - keeping those programs that are needed and can be made to be 100% self sustaining and phasing out those that are government ponzi schemes. Thats just for starters.

Studies have consistently shown that most unemployed don't get serious about getting a job (other than a "dream job") as long as they draw benefits. The rate of unemployment drops considerably after benefits end.

I'm not saying that it's easy to get a job for everyone now - but drawing benefits just delays the inevitable.

BTW - I've been there, done that. Don't whine, just get out there and get SOME type of job.

If the Democratic Congress could, they would probably extend unemployment benefits indefinitely just to ensure voters. How long should someone expect to collect unemployment anyway? 13 weeks? 26 weeks? 52 weeks? A year-and-a-half? It starts to get ridiculous after awhile, doesn't it? Unless there is some definite end-point in receiving benefits, is there any real incentive to go out and get another job? Is this unemployment insurance or is it becoming just another Federal welfare program? And who is going to pay for all these extensions? Is it employers and other employed taxpayers? Maybe it is just the Chinese, as long as they keep buying Treasury Bonds. In which case, payment will ultimately fall to my children and grandchildren. @!$%#, what a country we are becoming!

Congress previously has extended benefits from 26 weeks to 99 weeks and they want more. It's time to stop feeding this tapeworm.

I feel terrible for those without a job...but if you have been without a job for 99 weeks.....then you are going to stay WITHOUT a job....and unfortunately it is true, until you really want a job, most on unemployment aren't going to look that hard. In these economic times, none of us will be making what we used to make. My husband took a 60% paycut and I pay for our healthcare....we are really struggling, but we are still working.........not at the rate of pay we would like, but we are working. So the stay at home mom's and those on extended benefits may have to change their way of thinking.

My sister owns a convenience store with a deli in a small town and can't get help because those on unemployment make better money than if they worked.....now that's a problem...but why else would people look for a job when it pays to sit on your butt.

We are broke people....the American taxpayer has been drained. I'm sorry these folks are going to lose their unemployment. Maybe if this president isn't given the latitude to write hot checks and is forced to deal with unemplyment by focusing on the economy, maybe we can begin to move forward.

The catchall measure also includes $16 billion for state governments to avert layoffs, farm disaster aid, $1 billion for a youth summer jobs initiative and an extension of a bond program that subsidizes interest costs for state and local infrastructure projects

Pretty sure if it was to only extend unemployment it would pass without a problem. The problem is all the additional stuff.

Isn't this where OBama promised no pork barrel. Only stand alone bills. A careful eye on spending. He isn't doing his job.

brundo Wrote----As usual the repubs couldn't care less about the little people. They are too busy trying to bail out BP

brundo If you care so much about the little people, I suggest you start up a Charity and donate the money you receive to the Gov for Unemployment Benefits. Try to understand. The Gov is out of money.

As usual the repubs couldn't care less about the little people.

brundo,

Who in the hell are you calling little people? Do you work for BP?

Brundo, quite the contrary.

The Republicans might just be understanding that continued debt building and deficit spending does more harm to MORE (like all) of the "little people" in the long run, than the temporary benefit that another six weeks of UE might do to relative handful of "little people".

At some point, the spending MUST STOP. There are no two ways about it.

genrouk

Corporations do not benefit when they lay off a person for lack of work. When there is no work nobody benefits.

About 10% of the private sector is unemployed, but the public sector has actually ADDED jobs during this recession. Those public sector jobs have to be paid for by fewer private sector jobs, so where does it end.

Also, the public sector unions have made sure, according to a recent study, that their workers are compensated at about 160% of the average comparable private sector job - their average cost is about $40,000 MORE per year than the private sector, much of it from their fat early retirement benefits.

Where is the "shared sacrifice" from the bloated government sector?

And please, don't give me that old "teachers, firemen and policemen are the ones that have to be laid off", because the majority of public workers are clerks and bureaucrats that sit in a cubicle all day and twiddle their fingers or play video games, watching the clock. I did that for a few years long ago, but then I got bored so I quit and found a "real" job with a challenge to it. I could have retired much earlier, with a fat pension if I stayed, but I would have turned into a vegetable, and it just wasn't worth it.

Little people

They got little hands
Little eyes
They walk around
Tellin' great big lies
They got little noses
And tiny little teeth
They wear platform shoes
On their nasty little feet

Don't need no little people round here

genroku "As usual, the beneficiaries will be the corporations, who pay unemployment tax for each person they get rid of."

Actually, corporations only pay that tax for each person that's still WORKING for them. Once the employee leaves, the tax stops being paid.

I really don't think most Republicans would be against this Bill if the Dems got rid of the $16 Billion that is supposed to go to the states so they won't have to cut some of their public service union jobs. Why should people in other states have to help out sanctuary states like California and New York, if they got rid of all their illegals they would also get rid of most of their budget problems. Besides California's budget deficit alone would use up the whole $16 Billion and they would still be in the crapper. State employees are the States business and responsibility.

Many of you screaming against the Republicans about this Bill either conveniently overlooked or blew off the fact that Reid was the one that cut out the Federal supplement to those already unemployed so they could pay for teachers and other state workers to stay in their jobs. I guess you also forgot that the stimulus was supposed to save these same jobs and create more jobs when it was passed by the Dems last year.

So if you want to blame someone look no further than the President. When he called for the stimulus he stated that small businesses were the driving force and biggest job creators in our economy. Then he doled out hundreds of billions of dollars for both good and idiotic projects all across the U.S. and only allocated $3 Billion to the creation of more small businesses.

By the way there are still billions in the stimulus that haven't been spent yet, since the stimulus was such a joke, why not stop the rest of the money being spent and use what is left to pay for this Bill..... and a few others!

I can see Dr Larry's point... The Doctor charges me for one kidney stone 5 Cat Scans at $21000,00 each... Watching the 3.5mm stone move inch by inch from Kidney to toilet, thats $105,000 for just one kidney stone... I've have 4 stones over the last 2 years.. Thats $ 420,000 on just Cats Scans..

I guess my question is.. How did people pass kidney stones before Cat Scans? And I guess I can see how Doctors are very interested in keeping thing's just as they are...

Thank you Repubs. for finally, finally stepping to the plate and looking out for our country. It took you long enough. Even Olympia Snowe deserves a big ole thank you, thank you, thank you.

Millerz hits the nail on the head, if you don't work for a couple of years, even in a bad economy, employers stop hiring simply because they will assume (rightly or wrongly), you may not be very motivated.

When the entire Republican Party Senators vote against helping Americans in this recession, you have to conclude that the Republican Party DOES NOT CARE about the American people.

Those who would vote in November for the Republican Party should have second thoughts about voting for the Party of NO. No energy reform, no health care, no unemployment relief, no Wall Street reform, no environment policy etc, etc. What a terrible party! You have to really hate America to be a Republican. POWER is all they want and care about. Shame!

You know Common I always felt that even one party shouldn't be in control of everything and I see I was correct in my thinking. I always try to find at least one democrat that I can cast a ballot for. Not this year as a matter of fact I'm not sure I could ever vote for another dem. ever again.

Donna426,

I guess you are one of the Republicans who hate America. Why, Why, Why!

Roy,

Perhaps you should read what genroku wrote before putting your own spin and logic.

It is factual knowledge that the current recovery is a "jobless" recovery in which corporate profits are rising but with no increase in employment. What genroku was pointing out is that in addition to the labor cost reduction, corporations also benefit from no longer contributing to the indirect costs of maintaining an available educated workforce.

Common Sense Bill

You sit back and whine and snivel just like the thin skinned President. You can't stand the Republican party so even though your own party is in power in both Houses of Congress as well as the Capitol, you will find a way to try to pass the blame. It doesn't work Common and lets see if you can get a little sense from this.

Cap and Trade is a joke, the people pushing this Bill are like Gore who has invested heavily in the hopes that this Bill passes. Lets look at the coal mines. I know some that are open pit in Alabama that are hiring right now. The starting pay isn't the best at $14 an hour but that is a lot more than those on unemployment are getting. Also those same mines require their employees to do not 40 hours a week but 56 hours a week. With the overtime that puts a new worker in the $900 a week category. Not too shabby for a new hire, although they may be a little tired at the end of the week. Plus the insurance benefits for them and their families takes away a lot of worries.

However; whiners and snivelers would rather stop those people from working because some left wing progressive scientists with an agenda and poor statistical and book keeping abilities try to sell everyone on the global warming thing. Instead of being one of the snivelers why not go out and see if one of these jobs is available around you.

In Arizona they are about to open a new Copper Mine just south of Tucson. They will be hiring hundreds of people and probably paying like the Alabama mines do. The only difference is, you will have to cut your own grass here because when our new law takes effect most of the illegals will be long gone.

Interesting to me how conservatives cut off unemployment.

1. the only way to qualify for unemployment is if you have worked before.

2. conservatives say no dems work because they are all on entitlement programs and getting aid from the government

3. so all of these unemployed lowlifes must be Republicans since they are the only ones who have ever worked to be qualified.

I've been up and down this post twice and can really see the sense of both sides arguments which doesn't happen often as it's usually cut an dry to me. The bottom line is we need jobs and the reality is that collecting unemployment can't go on forever. I don't see this as a Republican/Democratic idealogy problem as much as it's a problem of the mucky-mucks from both sides refusing to get along. What's going to happen when it's time to vote themselves a raise ? I like Ratpoisons' idea of seeing the Lugs that lead this country doing it for free but why not take it one further ? Why not only elect those that are willing to do it out of a love of country , do away with campaigns and the millions spent on propaganda and rely on open forum debate, turn politicing into a part time job that people could do after their nine to five stint, I mean they don't put that much time into accomplishing anything that three to five hours a night couldn't surpass with a group that would work together. I say first elect Mr. Greene in South Carolina to send the message that the gig is up, let it be known that there is no need to apply if you are looking for a cushy deal and let them all know what UNEMPLOMENT is really like. Also i would like to take exception to the folks who need to call unemployed Americans names like parasites or moochers as very few people really like sitting around feeling worthless and watching the world go by, that's just shameless and points to what the crux of the problem is , people don't care anymore and hope is ever fleeing from those that do. We sent how many of millions of dollars to Haiti just recently, we are always sendiing millions somewhere else and this is not the time to kick other Americans that are down, how does it get fixed? I don't know but it's not by turning our backs on those that had nothing to do with what has happened, because it will be a lot of those same people that will be relied on to keep things right if they ever get there. Like I have said both sides have valid points but one thing is being missed and that is a lot of people rely on their unemployment as a means to feed their children and the children today are the countrys' hope of tommorrow, who of us can choose to turn our backs on that? It's time to let our differences go and start fixing things and never mind who does it....

b dune,

Excellent post!

To: Michael Lockwood and all the others who oppose helping Americans. I know that we must get real jobs for Americans, but lets not look the other way when people are losing their jobs. Do you really believe that a person who is behind in his/her mortgage, credit cards etc, really prefer to lose their homes and live on the street so that they can collect unemployment. Please use some common sense. Yes, there are those that abuse the system. But not the majority! What will happen to millions of Americans that have no safety net. This is the way to build anarchy. The French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, the fall of the Rome Empire happened because the common man could not provide for him and his family. A country can not survive where only the rich can live. AND THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. Find it in your heart to consider the unfortunate.

Common Sense Bill

I don't know how you got that I'm against supporting Americans out of my post. I would give everything I have to support AMERICANS. One of the problems with our economy right now is that Americans are having and have had to support millions of illegals. Lets get rid of them and send them back to their homes. A huge shovel ready job would be building the rest of the fence. I know the Border Patrol is and has been hiring. All of you displaced law enforcement and really anyone else that wants a job, there you go. Get off unemployment and serve your country. I also know that the Army's end strength is being increased by over 22,000. Another chance for thousands of people to give up their sofas and do something to support our Country. I'm all for helping out Americans, Common, but sooner or later many of them that should have been off the entitlement wagon a long time ago, need to get in line and do something else for a living. Giving out Billions and Billions and Billions has gone on too long. The stimulus was a complete waste of money. Had a person with a little common sense in business been in charge we wouldn't have wasted our money on temp jobs.

As for the teachers and other state workers again they are the responsibility of the state. They have robbed the common citizen with their overboard pension plans that aren't even close to being funded. Every state should get rid of them all and start over again. There should be no unions in public service. Never should a union be in a position to hold the people of each state a hostage.

By the way even if they had passed the $30 Billion Bill for another short fix it would still not have stopped thousands of state workers from being unemployed. If you read the article Calif would have gotten about $2 Billion. They are in the tank about $19 billion. New York was also looking at $2 billion, they are in the tank about $9 billion. I guess the rest of the states were going to be happy with about $240 million apiece?

The point is that for many there are jobs out there. You might have to take a pay cut, or you might have to switch to doing manual labor, or you might even have to see about moving but quit being an unfortunate one and move on.

The Illegal who work with fake social security number, do get taxes taken out. Their major problem is they can not file for returns, therefore the Government gets to keep the money.

Since they are being paid low wages the business benefits also. It's a win situation for the Government and a win situation for business's.

Illegals are a drag make no mistake about it however, they are still taking the work for wages that are beneath the average American which I can also understand.

# 1.27 said it correctly.

People who collect unemployment compensation WORKED. They were not bums, but now they will be because of the Republican idiots in Congress, who only care about their own pockets.

Why do you Hooligans insist on not giving the WORKING MAN CREDIT. There are NO welfare recipients collecting unemployment benefits.

Stop lying on people. Your tea baggers in Congress are screwing the LOYAL AMERICAN WORKERS.

Could the ones claiming there are jobs please link them or post a address or phone number? Bet if you do there will be hundreds if not thousands of people there tomorrow. Sheeze help you fellow citizens out. Funny thats something we have not heard in a few years, A political leader calling on citizens to help there friends and neighbors out during these horrible times. Wonder why that is?

Wait a second..How did the Republicans cause this bill to fail? The way I read the article,Nelson voted with the Republicans and Byrd didn't vote..I would say the Democrats caused the bill to fail..41 votes minus Nelsons and Byrd's vote equals 39...So blame it on Nelson and Byrd,but that wouldn't fit the Democrats game plan...

This Bill was BS and the Republicans rightly so voted it down. If it was simply about extending unemployment, there would not have been money there for government employees. All government employees need to have their wages slashed like the rest of us! The private sector should no longer be expected to pay for the overpaid government employee.

Someone said the other day that anyone unemployed that is really on the street should be able to go to the Gulf and for a place to sleep and 3 meals a day they then help clean up the oil mess (I imagine most of it would be paid for by BP) but then the Unions would probably not like that since they wouldn't get a big slice of the pie. I know that doesn't pay for a house and that type of thing but at least you would have a bed and food. Beats having nothing......

Need money?
Cut those outrageous pensions paid to govt (municipal,state, fed)employees.

My sister owns a convenience store with a deli in a small town and can't get help because those on unemployment make better money than if they worked.....now that's a problem...but why else would people look for a job when it pays to sit on your butt.

Millerz,

Your sister ought to not be so greedy keeping all the profits for herself and pay a decent wage then. Unemployment is only $300 a week that works out to a paltry $7.50/hr. Factor in taxes and its a lot less than that. I haven't made $7.50 an hour since I was teenager decades ago. The only way one could live off of that is to resign themselves to a life a poverty.

you can all sit on your high horses because you have jobs those of us who were laid off for no reason are left to suffer I have busted my ass for over 25 yrs,been stable enough to raise 8 children without government help.You people who say"Get a job doing anything ,its money right?"To you I call B/S All the jobs that are decent paying and even those who aren't paying decently have been sucked up by immigrants.I have done all I can do to survive scrimped cut corners even started working on other people's vehicles in my front yard to make ends meet.When your high end houses get robbed don't cry foul or ask why cause i'll let you in on a little secret Desperate people do desperate things to survive if that makes more criminals for the states to care for You gonna cry about that too?It's a crying shame that the government is actually allowing this to go on. Wake up America we're in a downward spiral and it's not going to stop til the american people stand up and say "Enough!" Give employers benefits for bringing back their laid off employees ,tax breaks for those willing to bring in new hires.the backbone of this country was built upon the sweat of my forefathers and all these politicians sucking off the governmental teet need to be broken and bruised ,they need to walk a mile in the average middle to low income families shoes then they can cry about their damn pensions and paychecks. Til then this country will continue to spiral downward into the financial abyss.

If this bill were all about providing help for those who had lost their jobs and needed some more financial assistance for a little while longer it probably would have passed - it also would not have cost 30 billion either. Read the article again - what is a discrimination suit doing in here? There are numerous other tid bits hinted at as well. That is the biggest problem with most of what this administration has done wrong - first of all trying to do something before trying to do the right thing and really thinking through the consequences of their actions (see health care bill that we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg on - no one really yet even knows what that one holds, just like Pelosi said). They stuff all kinds of crap that costs millions of dollars into every decent bill. We cannot continue to spend willy-nilly as a response to every problem. I know people that would love to have a job that is taken by an illegal immigrant - contrary to what many of you liberals think. There is no longer a reason to move to America for better jobs - there are no freaking jobs! Send back the illegals and let us regain some of the jobs that have been taken over, bring businesses back to the US however you have to - give them the tax breaks! you think someone who is out of work cares if there employer is getting a tax cut? heck no, they just care that they have an employer! And even with tax breaks those companies are stilling paying more tax than an individual or any illegal! All of the "jobs saved is a job created" crap is just that..crap. The government wants everyone to hate business and love them. That is just stupid. The government can only hire if it has money and the only place money for the government comes from is us or business. No business, no jobs, no money. Why is that so hard? Help citizens who have lost their job? Heck yes! Anything else? Heck no! Stand firm Republicans (and Democrats with guts)!

Wow. You mean to tell me that if these same Republicans and their "Democratic" allies were in power during the Great Depression, FDR would not have been able to do what he did to give Americans jobs and build the US economy?

I mean, can you imagine? By 1941 the US would have been in such a horrible state it would not had been able to respond to Pearl Harbor and Hitler probably would have taken over Europe by 1945!

NOTE: A reminder to the Tea Party folks. The three sources of money are: Business, people and government. When the economy is so bad as it was during the Great Depression and as it is now, businesses and people don't have money to spend. That's when goverment steps in to help until business and people can spend enough money and the goverment get back its investment when more taxes are paid during a healthy economy.

That's what happened back in the 30's, 40's and 50's and that's what needs to happen now. If you're going to argue against this you might as well go live in an island in a commune of fellow "No Government" utopians and leave everyone else alone. Thank you.

Brundo, it's no wonder your message was collaspt. YOU make no sense.

The OP is simply on Obama's side on this, and accuses repubs of being pro-corporation. This is par for the course, and I think his post should be un-collapsed.

That being said, this bill is simply more welfare.

Long live Ronaldus Magnus, a true champion of capitalism and the American Way.

GregL-671049... your post shows you don't know how the process works. First, Byrds not voting has no effect on the 41 who voted no, his voted is not counted either way because it doesn't exist. Secondly, for it to pass, it needed 60 votes. Using your logic, if Nelson had voted yes, and Byrd had voted(and voted yes), they still would have been one vote short.

It might be wise to see what types of Earmarks were attached before going wild here. The Dem's, ( Reid, Pelosi) are WELL noted for placing MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of Dollars of earmarks into Vital legislation, hoping the Rep's would pass it. This is NOT politics as usual, it is the Republican party trying to put a stop to the Economic rape of the Treasury by the Democrat party. I do not want, in any way, to be thought of as "Happy" the bill failed. This Bill HAS to pass, millions depend on the money, but, until the bill excludes any and all amendments/attachments by BOTH parties, it should fail just so the Public can see the way the elected lowlifes do business.

Remember this at Election time, OK? When the incumbent candidate states that "If elected/re-elected, I will work for and bring Jobs to America, I will defeat legislation allowing Illegal immigration, I will vote for...( YOU fill it in.) Ask this Candidate, if he can do all that after being re-elected, why can't they do it now? If you re-elect the current Gang of Thieves that now "Run Government for you" don't cry to me when you get bent over the barrel again, business as usual.

THINK BEFORE YOU VOTE, FLUSH THE POLITICAL TOILET WE NOW HAVE, AND LET AMERICA BE AMERICA AGAIN!!!!!!!

Common Sense Bill

When the entire Republican Party Senators vote against helping Americans in this recession, you have to conclude that the Republican Party DOES NOT CARE about the American people.

We are 13 Trillion in debt. Dems want to add 30 billion to that debt to pay off deadbeats that refuse to work after collecting a free check from the gubberment for 99 weeks.

I would say Republicans do care about Americans.......the littlest ones that all you greedy money grubbing free loading freebie loving Liberals overlook..... our children and their future.

I guess Jamaal and Faquisha are going to have to get jobs now to feed their 27 children. Oh how horrible!

To add to that, don't tell me free gubberment money doesn't motiovate people to sit on their asses.

My brother-in-law is one of those Mexican'ts (here leagally) that sat on his butt for over a year milking the system collecting his Obama checks and did not get up to find a job until his benefits were exhausted.

(For simple minded Liberals "exhausted benefits" means "no more free money")

maurice-311399 "Roy, Perhaps you should read what genroku wrote before putting your own spin and logic."

Huh?????????

I did read his post, and my response was completely correct. Unemployment insurance taxes are paid on WORKING employees, not those laid off. Also, your "spin" of what genroku was "pointing out" has nothing to do with his comment, or mine.

The Crimson Ghost Post #2.66 and Post alessa #2.49…..among some other very good posts

These are very, very good posts that go straight to the matter at hand. Please supplement these two excellent posts with my minor input post #2.62.

Crimson – that the powers in Congress do not understand that there not but few jobs that pay a livable wage that is substantially above the poverty level is completely lost on these State and especially Congressional Representatives.

These representatives must really be in some sort of physical and mental comfort zone to not be appear that people have to pay for food, utilities, autos, gasoline and so forth, lets not even discuss health insurance and out of pocket health bills.

We scuttled other measures to pay for this extension of unemployment aid but "The Party of NO" and the DINOS could not find it in their cold hearts due to the total lack of touch with the common plight of the working Americans is so immoral I cannot find the words to express my outrage. How many Billions to we waste on two wars that are going nowhere and the overblown government sector?

That the congress could not pass this legislation is beyond my rage to express how I feel about these traitorous flunkies that nest in those hallowed halls of congress.

Good luck to you, I hope many will read your post and call their representative. I may re-print your post in context to a post that has been brewing up in me for some time now, this also includes "alessa's post" without you contacting me on via my personal page on this vine I will take it I have your permission to quote you. I would not do so without your permission, you can easily hit my screen name and leave a message that you wish not to have me use your post to illustrate the points that you make in said posts.

Good Luck to you both………….excellent posts

Rogue - As usual Rogue you are 10% right, 50% unintelligible and 40% wrong

Mr C. Seek help with you apparent anger issues. And, my wish for you, I hope you lose your job and they hire your brother in law. Hopefully, he will show you the same contempt you have for him and all the others out there that have no job. let's see then how much better than everyone else you think you are when you can't feed your kids or your own arrogant self anymore.

Crimson and alessa -

I forgot to mention I would not use your screen names only the content of your posts and possibly verbatim. We don't have applicable copyright curbs on the the"Vine" but I still would not quote you verbatim if you did not wish me too. I found some "real life" points of view on this thread (topic). This also goes for Mr. Karson and a few other posters above that posted excellent posts that leads my train of thought in a direction that I can use to make my point and fashion my post just so as to maximize my intent.

Have a nice day...............

Shellie-657180

Mr C. Seek help with you apparent anger issues. And, my wish for you, I hope you lose your job and they hire your brother in law. Hopefully, he will show you the same contempt you have for him and all the others out there that have no job. let's see then how much better than everyone else you think you are when you can't feed your kids or your own arrogant self anymore.

Well lucky for me I'm self employed so you wish just went up in flames. As for my brother-in-law...... are you fricking kidding me woman?!?

Reread my post. He is my wife's brother. I know the guy quite well. What part of "he intentionally milked the system" do you not understand?

He was laughing his ass off all the way to the bank every two weeks to cash his Obama check and planned to not look for a job until his unemployment benefits ran out.

And you defend this guy? No wonder we are heading for a double dip recession. You Liberals are seriously out of your minds.

Mr. C: I am finding you with all kinds of incorrect facts tonight. You wrote "...Dems want to add 30 billion to that debt to pay off deadbeats that refuse to work after collecting a free check from the gubberment for 99 weeks...."

• Not true, where do you get "99 weeks?"
• "deadbeats that refuse to work?" Is that correct? If that is the case, please let me know when you GO ON VACATION, so that we can safely post your job/opening in an unemployement office. HECK, I am certain there isn't a qualified person out there that will try to take your job for less money.
• "...add 30 billion to that debt..."Didn't you read that the unemployement benefit comes from a tax increase on the 1/3 of 1% of Americans? It is not really being added to our deficit? So which are you? one of the 1/3 of 1%, or a person hired by the 1/3 of 1% to fight their battle, or simply ignorant.

do you rememeber back in school we use to say, liar liar pants on fire??? you better spill something onto your lap soon....

Turd- Why is it that Libs seem to think that increasing taxes is the same or as good as cutting spending? It is not! Your argument that it only increases taxes for a few is disingenuous as best. Even if it was acceptable (which it isn't) that money could be used to pay down our huge deficit instead of growing government.

Rob-San Diego, why do you seem to think not paying taxes is always a good thing? I could have swore the Regan, Bush, Bush Jr told us that Deficits are not a big deal! So why are you fretting now? Could have fretted over the past 30 years. Yet you only seem to have issues when Democrats are in the White House.

Until you can critic your own partys policy with open eyes, your attempts at justification will be weak.

NONE of the politicians want to increase taxes! It is a DEATH SENTENCE for their political future. I look at those that speak such words with admiration, becuase they tend not to care about their future. Those who constantly want tax cuts, I always cast a leary eye, because no business can operate with a constant diminishing operating cost.

YES, AMERICA is a business, and a large one at that. The government is not there to ensure profitability for the business. There are businessmen for that. It is there to make certain that it operates at a predictable and a increasing pace. Often that translate to making certain that the workers are educated, healthy, and the machines are safe, well maintained. Can you believe the Business, itself will regulate itself to insure such???? If you do, then you are a bigger fool. It did not work prior to America, It did not work in the 1800, it did not work prior to the Great Depression, and it will not work now.

Tax and spend is 100 x more fiscally responsible than spend and spend!

Republican fiscal policy = Spend and spend more! How is THAT supposed to convince me to vote for them?

Give the millionares tax cuts, off shore jobs, crash the economy, then want to starve the people whose jobs they off shored by ending their unemployment benefits! Because those benefits cost too much! But the Iraq war? Naaa that won't cost anything! The Iraqi oil will pay for it... right?

"Republican Values"

ALWAYS REMEMBER: If the Republicans are truely fiscally responsible, then I believe they should have passed or voted for the bill proposed by many Democrats that account spending with government revenue. In another words, in order to account for any new program, there must be enough revenue (or tax revenue). Funny, the Republicans turned it down every time it comes up for a vote or suggestion by the Democratic Presidents....

hampster, so you want me to believe republicans are blocking this? Democrats control everything right now.

Hell yeah blame it on the Republicans! Blame it on Bush! Pull the Race Card!

You sure as hell can't blame it on an incompetent POTUS that has done nothing for the economy except rush through a non-stimulus bill and then waste a year and a half passing a healthcare bill that the majority of Americans didn't want.

The Republicans are deliberately stalling this bill. Did you read the article?

Americans need JOBS..., not aid bills...

As long as the Republicans threaten 'filibuster' every time they don't get their way, they have equal control. But that's a 2-way street, so even if they end up with a majority in one of the houses, they can probably look forward to being treated as they treated others.

It's doubtful that anyone whose unemployment ends as a result of this obstruction is going to vote for Republicans this fall. So. Be. It.

Skeptic-we are out of MONEY....no more freebies..............got it? And it the Republicans are responsible for it....then GOOD FOR THEM......it's time to shut the flood gates. Obama needs to learn how to be a president....this on the job training is devastating this country!

Why are the Dems package unemployment with huge payouts to their government union buddies. They could care less about the people in private business. However, they have to make sure those union governement workets in SEIU are taken care of. That way SEIU will can make those big campaign contributions to the Dems. If they want to take care of their buddies let the bill stand alone.

Hampster-why do you want to continue offering a safety net to people that have quit looking for work? Why do you want to support a group of people in jobs or careers that we do not have the money to support? Why do you want to keep stealing from the unborn to pay today? Just answer these questions without blaming a Republican, George Bush or Sara Palin. Try to answer in striclty social economic terms. Good luck!

The filibuster exists to ensure that the party in the majority (in this case, the democrats) doesn't just trample on and totally ignore the minority party. It is up to the majority party to govern in such a way that the minority party doesn't feel so excluded they resort to the filibuster.

If you look at this administration, as soon as Obama won, his message to republicans was, "I won, you lost, I will be calling the shots. So go to hell." THey excluded the republicans COMPLETELY from the healthcare process with the exclusion of buying off a couple liberal republicrats whose votes they needed. If the republicans are now filibustering and stopping the democrat juggernaut from steamrolling their agenda through, then it is because THEY have abused their power and governed without the wisdom to be even mildly inclusive.

every1has1 wrote

The Republicans are deliberately stalling this bill. Did you read the article?

I love that logic. "The Republicans are obviously the problem. The article said so." Wow.

The article could have also been to written to say "Republicans help protect future generations by not adding $30 billion more to the current debt problem."

Or for another headline: "Democrats still can't get anything done even with their 60 seat Super Majority."

See, it is all about the spin. But, as usual, let's just blame the Republicans because the article said so. Some people can't think for themselves. Remember the article also said that the vote was 57-41. That means three Democrats also voted against it. That's who we need to thank for not passing this non-sense.

In the words of Lewis Black "Democrats and Republicans are like a bowl of crap looking at itself in the mirror."

"as the country begins to emerge from the worst recession in seven decades"

What part of, the country is not emerging from the worst recession is it soooo hard for people to understand.

Obama's policies are a failure. The "core issues" of what caused the recession, immediate gratification, greed, crooked politicians, lobbyist have not been addressed.

Government bailouts are temporary "band-aids", not a solution. There are no jobs for Americans! Banks are not lending, crooks, using "Ponzi schemes" are who is controlling the Feds and American Tax Payers.

America has "farmed out" HER MIDDLE CLASS JOBS to foreign countries - textile, auto, and even electronics for the immediate wealth/gratification of the CORPORATE WEALTHY and CROOKED POLITICIANS.

No matter how many times MSNBC wants to indicate the recession is recovering, the truth is, that is simply not happening!

Americans need JOBS..., not aid bills...

I thought that was what the $787 BILLION stimulus bill was supposed to do LAST year. So what happened?

Yes, and everytime Obama and WA puts together any bill etc., they always add their pork....the money should go to the people losing their homes, living in shelters or on the streets because the ---------government allowed wall street and others to cause this mess and millions have lost their jobs and can't get another. NO ADDING THEIR PORK to protect their city and state governments from feeling the affect they have caused to US citizens.

Vote out all incumbents unless you know for sure they have US citizens interest at heart and will do the job. How do we know this? I don't know...their lips are moving.

For those of you who have lost their jobs, I have nothing left but sympathy. It's probably the worst thing next to losing a loved one. Unfortunately, Obama's job creation efforts have been a dismal failure. The only jobs created have been government jobs and the only jobs saved have been government jobs. They're great jobs, pay 160% of the average private sector jobs, have great benefits, rarely get cut, and you have SEIU working for you to keep the benefit and pay increases coming at the expense of all the rest of America. Private sector jobs are what most of the rest of us had. Obama is anti-business and thus anti-private sector. So no jobs for the rest of us. We're stuck with redistributing our wealth to the elite in government.

Let's look at that wealth redistribution thing. Obama got paid $385,000 in 2009 to be the President of the United States. But, his tax return showed his income as $5.6 million! Wow, talk about the benefits of being at the feed trough! So, let's redistribute his wealth. He gets to keep the $385,000 earned as president, but the rest goes into a fund to be used to extend unemployment benefits. Then, how about Nancy Pelosi, she and her husband are multimillionaires. They get to keep $300,000 and the rest goes into the fund to extend unemployment benefits. Just work you way through both houses of Congress, leave them their base pay, and the rest goes into the unemployment fund. Then start with the State governments in a similar fashion, and I bet pretty soon we would have a program that actually creates private sector jobs, cuts government jobs, is pro-business, is protective of our jobs, guts free trade, and gets people back to work. Just need the right carrot and the big stick that goes with it!

Thank god. Unemployment isn't a right. It's time for America's "austerity" program.

"Thirty states had been counting on federal support to help balance their budgets for the fiscal year"

30 out of 50 states still looking for a bailout from the taxpayers; learn how to operate on the money you have instead of robbing from others.

If the vote was just about unemployment extensions, it would have been passed. However, the additional money for the states is why no republicans voted for it.

With all the extra unspent money from the stimulus, the democrats should just allocate some of that money to the states.

unemployment is not an entitilement, you have to pay into it when you work, you get paid according to what you earn, it was created so that a person who had a decent job doesn't have to work at mc donalds, for one thing if you get any job you can find while you're looking for a real job you're screwed, because if you have to go to interviews, you have to miss work to do so and guess what happens if you miss work, two things you either get short paid for the day or you get fired. Unemployment is there so you have the time to find a good job and also to stimulate the economy because when a person gets a check what do they do they buy food or supplies it helps to stimulate the economy and keep people from becoming homeless.

millerz, they can rescind the tax cut for the wealthiest and scale back these wars like pronto. They can cut the fancy stuff out for the next year or two for 545 politicians, and maybe roll back some of those pay raises. Then they can cut the subsidies to oil, insurance, the mega-farms and the next 20 highest subsidized industries in the country.

Partnership income shouldn't be sheltered and called a dividend where no taxes are paid on it - especially after the hue and cry about 47% of people supposedly not paying taxes. Cut some exemptions for some of those expense accounts, corporate auto fleets, cadillac health care plans, and get those taxes. After all the exemptions, credits, deductions, and carry forward/backward rules, these rich people don't pay as much in taxes as they would like everyone to believe. The marginal rate is NOT what they end up paying. It's a starting point to cut back from.

No doubt there are other huge expenditures or tax breaks, but I don't know enough about them to list them.

In other words, it shouldn't be the most financially vulnerable people in this society always taking the hits. What about CEOs of corporations that were bailed out? Is all the bail out money paid back? If not, why not? If it was lent to banks to lend to people and businesses, in order to jump start this economy, and that didn't happen, then take the bail-out money back and make sure it gets to where it was supposed to go in the first place. If those bailed out have to shut down, well, they can join the millions of unemployed who are about to be homeless or have to resort to welfare to live.

This all started in the Bush administration with the tax cut for the wealthy - which was NOT PAID FOR. Start there.

Oh, and for those who are working, corporations paying a living wage would go a long way toward collecting taxes from more people.

as for 'paul-1359246, why single out the President on this? How about anyone with, or near, that worth being subjected to the same remedy you suggested. See how far that goes...This isn't about taking someone else's wealth just because they have it, paul. This is about sustaining people who've been working, and is the result of the movers and shakers using Ouija boards instead of their brains on stupid risk-taking. And obviously, someone had their thumb on the Ouija board marker.

Maybe we should start subjecting those decisions to move jobs overseas to national votes. Maybe that would stop the hemorrhaging.

Well lets see 200,000 people of the benefits per week I wonder when this will cause more people to lose the job that they do have, billions in revenues not being spent back into the economy, do you people really think this will not eventually have an affect on if you will still have a job?, I could really careless that you people lose you jobs maybe you need to walk in the other peoples shoes for a reality check ....... LOL LOL LOL

The bill should be killed. Get a (financial) grip. If this idiot President would lower taxes, business would grow, expand and HIRE PEOPLE. Putting people to work "painting rocks" and other "make work jobs" is nonsense.

I hope the unemployed and those whose unemployment benefits have been cut off remember at election time that it was the Republicans who refused to help you. It's so crazy for people in poor states or states with high unemployment to think that the GOP is going to help anybody but themselves and the rich. In my state, in my residential community, a company bought land at the base of the small mountain we live on, and has applied to begin strip mining. The operation threatens the water supply for the whole community, not just to pollute the water, but to potentially destroy the well that provides all of the water. Nobody in the state government is lifting a finger to stop it, despite thousands of people and families begging to keep their water, and their historic town from the air pollution and noise. Why? Because these people always vote in Republicans, and the GOP puts industry profits over people and the environment. You can't keep doing the same thing and expect different results. GOP is not going to protect the middle class and poor regardless of what FOX says or what Karl Rove, who got the dumbest guy in politics elected, told you.

First of all... This example for the article has been hired by the democratic party to be unemployed. If he was not getting paid then he wouldnt be in this news article acting like he cant find a job.

There are plenty of jobs. Just not the ones that certain people want to do for the money. I blame decades of welfare. You convince a segment of your population to expect free money and not expect that segment to demand that free money.

You make your bed and you lie in it.

I agree with hampster. I am unemployed and looking everyday. First of all there are no jobs like there used to be and second of all if you are over 50 it is twice as hard. I just lost a job to a 30 year old with less experience and I was rated number 1 on all the interviews-is that fair!!! I hope you guys are never unemployed and have to go through this. I am very blessed that I have a family that is looking out for me but there are other people that are living in tent cities here in the United States due to unemployment. And I have seen unemployed people living in their cars. So before you start saying unemployed people are lazy talk to one living in a homeless shelter or in their car. You could be there one day too.

The Illegal who work with fake social security number, do get taxes taken out. Their major problem is they can not file for returns, therefore the Government gets to keep the money.

Since they are being paid low wages the business benefits also. It's a win situation for the Government and a win situation for business's.

Illegals are a drag make no mistake about it however, they are still taking the work for wages that are beneath the average American which I can also understand.

# 1.27 said it correctly.

People who collect unemployment compensation WORKED. They were not bums, but now they will be because of the Republican idiots in Congress, who only care about their own pockets.

Why do you Hooligans insist on not giving the WORKING MAN CREDIT. There are NO welfare recipients collecting unemployment benefits.

Stop lying on people. Your tea baggers in Congress are screwing the LOYAL AMERICAN WORKERS.

Did the elephant just fart, again? Do they think working people will continue to ascribe any credibility to them after this? Have they convinced themselves that the Tea Party will bring them home, or that "I got mine, now you go get yours, we support you in your efforts" is the rule of the land?

Then why is this such a tragedy for Obama? Obama is responsible for the Republicans' obstructing the extension of benefits to people out of work in an increasing "recession" caused by Wall St philandery? Which these working people bailed out, then watched the Wall Streeters pay themselves very well indeed? You're kidding.

It should be a call to reopen a few Alphabet Agencies. They've already gone through a filibuster process and thus a simple majority vote would rule. Imagine that, a simple majority vote. Wow. O rarity of rarities, a simple majority vote. Most of the unemployed want to work, and the quickest, most scant look about will reveal much to do.

So stop dribbling and take your best shot! dam!

What about the job stimulus bill? Is it only to stimulate jobs at failing, outsourcing, fat saturated companies? Why can't there be work which is done for ourselves? Is it some sort of no-bid deal?

I love it, The COMMON SENSES of the worlds , say why do we conserevatives hate america.

We don't low life, we hate the people that want to put their feet up and let taxpayers support them.

Yeah, COMMONSENSE, that would be you.

Dump the aid to the states - too many overpaid, underworked teachers, etc.

"The president has been clear: Americans should not fall victim to Republican obstruction at a time of great economic challenge for our nation's families," Gibbs said in a statement.

What a crock !!! Get the pork for the UNIONS out of the dad gum bill and it would have passed. Don't blame Republicans....it took Democrats NAY votes also to defeat this legislation, MR GIBBS and the WHITE HOUSE !!!

Keep harping on "Republican obstruction" and you will see TRIPLE DIGIT losses in the House and Senate this fall.

Direct the Vice President to IMMEDIATELY release the $ 400,000,000,000 left in the Stimulus Package (which was $ 787,000,000,000) and give it to SMALL BUSINESSES, and then see what happens.

We have a problem HOUSTON, and the problem starts at the top.

"This is a bill that would remedy serious challenges that American families face as a result of this Great Recession," said Sen Max Baucus, D-Mont., the chief author of the bill. "This is a bill that works to build a stronger economy. This is a bill to put Americans back to work."

THAT IS EXACTLY what these liberal dumbasses said the trillion dollar scamulous bill was supposed to do...you liberal lemmings just can't get enough of the kool aid that these chumps are pooring down your blind ass throats

this fool is one of the chief liars and scammers of the liberal thievery party

ile/miami this goes to show how much you do not know.. unemployment is NOT paid by the person, it's taxes paid in by the EMPLOYER. The taxes taken out of your paycheck pay federal taxes, not unemployment taxes. I should know I work close to one of the agencies.

(lucky for me.. hey it pays crap, but at least I can help people, and I have a job.. oh and it has unions trying to break in promising everything under the sun.. yet they never do what they so they are going to do.. while taking dues..)

you wanna know the truth about unemployment and news from someone who works close..when you see a news story about unemployment claims going down.. it means that benefits have run out (i.e the extensions) and people have stopped filing.. not because jobs have been created or the census has been started again... The extensions have been frozen since 05/29/10.. with the 4th ext (the state ones) exhausted as of 06-05-10. Next month you are sure as hell gonna see a newstory about claims dropping again.. good news!!!

BTW the reason why people say freeloaders....is because of the freeloaders. When you see people out and out not taking jobs because it is not perfect for them, thats a freeloader.. this is a bad economy, time to take what you can get while you can. (as long as it is suitable.)

I have had callers tell me they are not taking a job because they are used to getting paid 21 dollars an hour.. but this was only offereing 19 an hour. Tack on to it people still calling wondering why their benefits stopped 3 weeks after they froze them, makes you wonder if they are paying attention to what they should be doing, and if they are really doing what they are sposed to be doing in terms of job searches..

get a part time job, go to a temp agency earn some money, you can work p/t and draw unemployment as long as you look for a f/t job.. geez...some people havent worked in two years, and these people aren't nuclear phycisists, so you tell me where that freeloader crap comes from? The majority want to work and are not freeloaders, but just like in real life there are others who just want to ride the system, blame them for this.

Why do they have to tack on extra stuff if they only cared about unemployment benefits.. you see the logic they were trying to use. "the Reps cant possibly turn this down, this has unemployment tied to it.." well they did, rightfully so, create a bill that only has to do with unemployemnet if that is your main thing. I can see some point tho, the jobs are not there, and it looks like DEMS the party of NO NO NO CREATING NEW JOBS is trying to get people used to government hand outs so they can pass more entitlement programs...time to stop that, but if you DEMS are so much in arms, easy remedy, create the jobs like you say you can, or get out of the way of private business and let them create the jobs.

I know they want their own Soviet Union style overthrow of who they view is the american counterpart of the Russian royal family.. but they didn't count on the majority of the United States inability to not be brainwashed into it..

wilberta.. please stop.. you were on an earlier thread this morning stating that america humiliated the soviet Union in the 80's by training rebels to fight against soviet's and thats why the Soviets hate us. The same Soviets who invaded their own country and assasinated their president and advisors and overthrew the government.. if you knew any history you would know that this happened before you spoke.. they instigated and invaded first.. then we followed up. It was afghanistan rebels that humiliated them. (after we trained them of course)

Maybe the media isn't telling the entire story. We're heard some wild spins on the Economy and now they are not saying what all that 30B was going to cover. How much of it was for pork projects? Where did they intend to come up with this money?

There are loads of minimum wage jobs around. But the people on unemployment don't even apply for work. The biggest problem a lot of employers are having is finding people willing to work that aren't on drugs. The drug problems are getting worse and when they find out there's going to be a drug test they are conveniently not at work..

I find it very telling that the government refuses to pass a budget. Why? Because they don't want us to know how much they are sinking this country into further debt and who voted to approve that expense. Someone needs to put a plug in the spending and just where do you do that that won't be found fault with? I would bet that this Jobs Bill was no better than any other that the government has pass and they have only spent half of the TARP and are holding on to it to pay for votes they need and push their candidates in the next elections and 2012. Unfortunately, it is a political trick to attach a grossly over funded bill like this to something that no one wants to see turned down and this time it was an unemployment extension. How convenient for the Dems that they can now point their fingers at those terrible Republicans for not voting for the Jobs Bill.......... Instead of trying to bundle these things together they should be forced to vote on each one separately and that is what will happen with the unemployment extension...it will be forced to come up for a separate vote without the Jobs Bill which would no doubt mean even higher taxes for the working citizens.

Interestingly they didn't bat an eyelid over giving wallstreet, the bankers and the insurance industry $700 billion. Guess we know where their priorities lie. And most of the AIG executives never did give their bonus money back for a poor job poorly done. If they wanted jobs back then dump NAFTA, do something serious about the illegal alien problem and set up tarriffs like the rest of the world does and most importantly get the banking industry and the IRS to help small businessmen.

Demorats have had plenty of time to fix this crap and haven't. Demorats could have passed a bill containing nothing but the extensions and even added a tier and got it passed. They didn't! Mr Read My lips No new earmarks and his scum bag scamming cronies wanted to enrich them selves yet again. Funny doctors still getting there Medicare monies . What B.S. Could all the ones claiming there are jobs out there or they know some company that is hiring please post the freaking address, phone number or a link? come on help your fellow citizen out. thats something I haven't heard in a couple of years, A Political leader be it Demorat or Repubelickan Calling on the citizens to help there families and friends through this freaking disaster's. Wonder why not? guess they are wanting uncle sugar daddy SAM to do it. If you never held a public serve us office you will get my vote!

All that is holding this up is for the sponsor to pay for it. The reason thousands of state employees are losing their jobs is because states aren't collecting as much in taxes. 30 of 50 states are in that problem - what problem does taking money from the federal treasury solve? The states aren't going to have the money next year either, or the next year....

The stimulus and other deficit spending programs haven't added 40,000 jobs in the private sector at a deficit cost of $2+ TRILLION over the last 18 months. If the plans aren't working it's time for a new plan, end the failed programs and redirect the money. Congress can do that.

sgthappyg-447688

Or for another headline: "Democrats still can't get anything done even with their 60 seat Super Majority."

What a genius you are !!

But don't let reality spoil your fun .

Something else does matter. The young Hispanic that has come here to clean the floors and bathrooms of one of my favorite restaurant==he matters. Those of us that had the good fortune of being born here, does matters. It should be Congress's directive (self imposed) to do what and all things to get this country running again. We should stand tall as a nation and put a penalty on ANY, ANY, employer who willfully consider commerce with any illegal you become acquainted with. ICE needs to interact with the employers that hire the aliens "under the table ". This a new colloquiums that has a new meeting in this new "war" .Used to be if you used a 4 letter word you were considered a "brut" at best and a "dyke" at worst.Now a four letter doesn't always to be a bad word. We have a few at my house that are required reading (and hopefully implemented) HELP....LOVE.....LIKE....HOPE.....HARD (which is more, and more a letter we hear. It's just the thousands of people feel. So forlornly,will find some that will make them feel K-I-N-D I know I spent somemany years in trying to impart knowledge to students that will be making the kind of decisions required of us all. I've read on here "those that don't do, teach". If only it was my story. I taught history in a private girls school for many years. Decide to go to laws school , since it would be a juris doctrate in two years. Passed the BAR and went right back to teaching. I would amaze me and really kind of scare me when on the first day you say" Welcome to ethics which is an 8 hour class to be taught in two semesters. The kids really start laughing when the word "ethics" is mentioned. I can't tell you how many times I heard "I've saved my blue dress for latter when the money will be better'. Gordon Gekko and his spawn are alive and well in the world.

No matter what it is what it is, there is no way the government can keep the ball from rolling down that steep hill, like I've said from the very beginning everyone will be affected we just got through the first wave and the second wave has just started, by the end of this year 30 million people will be without a job and no prospects, crime will jump and people won't be safe in their own homes but it will get worst you can count on that, once the ball starts rolling there is no stopping it .. LOL LOL LOL

Do you think any of these countries that we have been supporting for the 60 years would be interested in US citizens who feel they want to defect to one of these countries? Would they say NO. Just an interesting situation......We are only open for US interference when it goes one way. If you need anything from us, well what can you say, it is not in our best interest.

It's the beginning of the end. Both sides are Idiots, and America is going to suffer for it. The far left "AND" far right need to go away.......

toastee, I have rarely seen so much BS in one post. Unemployed people turning down 19 dollar an hour job so they can keep getting that 300 dollars a week. Lets see, I'm unemployed and I would rather sit on my ass for 300 dolllars or work for 760. Do you really think this is what is happening. My son was laid off in November 2009, his unemployment paid him 250 dollars a week, he just found a job that pays 8 dollars an hour and he feels very lucky.

The reason they tacked on the aid to the states is because the states are broke. I guess when the states do not recieve the aide they can just start laying off people to, that should make the economy better. I hate to tell you people but the statistics show that there are 6 unemployed people for every job opening in this country. So I guess in your selfesh mind those five other people who don't get the job are just out of luck.

The current economy is the result of 30 years of supply side (trickle down) economics, horrible free trade policies and financial deregulation. All of these policies were enthusiastically supported by the Republican party.

If giving tax breaks to the wealthy and getting out of the way of the private sector (deregulation) actually worked we should be swimming in jobs by now.

And if your really talking about job growth, here is a little excerpt from an article in the Jacksonville Business Journal.

President George W. Bush will leave office Tuesday with the worst employment-growth record of any president since World War II, according to a new analysis by Bizjournals.

The nation’s job base grew at an annual rate of 0.28 percent during Bush’s eight years as president – by far the slowest pace for any of the 11 presidents in the postwar era, according to Bizjournals. Bizjournals is the online media arm of , The Business Review's parent company.

The previous low had been set by Bush’s father, George H.W. Bush, with an annual job-growth rate of 0.59 percent. The elder Bush served between 1989 and 1993.

In fact here is a list of the Presidents since WWII and their job growth numbers.

Total employment

1. Lyndon Johnson (1963-69), 3.74%
2. Jimmy Carter (1977-81), 3.11%
3. Bill Clinton (1993-2001), 2.42%
4. Harry Truman (1945-53), 2.38%
5. Richard Nixon (1969-74), 2.30%
6. John Kennedy (1961-63), 2.28%
7. Ronald Reagan (1981-89), 2.04%
8. Gerald Ford (1974-77), 0.95%
9. Dwight Eisenhower (1953-61), 0.87%
10. George H.W. Bush (1989-93), 0.59%
11. George W. Bush (2001-09), 0.28%

I think the top four are all Democrats and the bottom five are all Republicans. So please don't tell me how great Republicans are for the working people in this country.

Republicans only believe in aid to corporations.

#2.1 RTFA... first goddam sentance even.

You know, there should be a rule added to the COH... perma-ban anyone that opens their yap without reading the article.

Someone said the other day that anyone unemployed that is really on the street should be able to go to the Gulf and for a place to sleep and 3 meals a day they then help clean up the oil mess (I imagine most of it would be paid for by BP) but then the Unions would probably not like that since they wouldn't get a big slice of the pie. I know that doesn't pay for a house and that type of thing but at least you would have a bed and food. Beats having nothing......

The media is consciously confusing the public about the priorities of the public as revealed by polls and also about the negative effect on employment numbers that would result from cutting the federal budget. Here's an interesting article from the FAIR (Fairness and Accuracy In Reporting) website about this situation:

Inventing a Nation of Deficit Hawks

WaPo, NYT misread polls on public and spending

6/24/10

Republicans and conservative Democrats in Congress like to argue that public concern over federal budget deficits makes it impossible to pass a new round of job-creating stimulus spending. And corporate media like to echo these sentiments, despite there being little evidence that citizens are as concerned about these issues as inside-the-Beltway deficit hawks.

In the June 21 New York Times, John Harwood wrote, "The same polls that show voters upset about joblessness also show them upset about deficit spending, which Democratic leaders consider their only short-term method of reducing joblessness."

The Washington Post (6/19/10) put the same narrative on its front page under the headline, "Election-Year Deficit Fears Stall Obama Stimulus Plan." Reporter Lori Montgomery acknowledged that many economists see a greater threat looming if the government doesn't provide additional stimulus. But, she countered, "a competing threat--the exploding federal budget deficit--seems to be resonating more powerfully in Congress and among voters." The piece went on to note that the first stimulus package does not appear to poll very well, and that voters "are sending mixed signals about whether Washington should spend more on jobs or start minding the national debt."

But most recent polls show far more public concern over unemployment than deficit spending or the federal debt. As FAIR noted (FAIR Blog, 5/19/10), recent surveys from CBS/New York Times and NBC/Wall Street Journal asked voters to rank problems facing the country. Unemployment was more important by a spread of 49 percent to 5 percent in the CBS/NYT poll, 35 percent to 20 percent in the NBC/WSJ survey, and 47 percent to 15 percent from a recent Fox poll. Blogger Ben Somberg raised similar questions (6/19/10) in response to the Post story.

And with all the media hysteria over federal spending and the deficit, the public seems to have a somewhat muddled view of why it's even an issue. A recent Pew/National Journal survey (6/17-20/10) that found 74 percent of respondents believed that--contrary to what most economists would tell you--"budget cuts to reduce the federal deficit" would help create jobs. The same poll found similarly wide majorities seeing job creation from additional spending on public works programs, more aid to state and local governments, and cutting business and income taxes--all policies that would increase the deficit. Surveys in which the public ranks these conflicting priorities consistently give the deficit little emphasis.

So when the Post begins a May 19 story, "With voters up in arms over the mounting federal debt," where is the evidence for that characterization? Or for Times writer Matt Bai's suggestion (6/17/10) that "the federal deficit has emerged as a chief concern for voters"? Or when the Times reported (6/18/10) that the Senate's failure to pass a spending bill was evidence that lawmakers "reacting to rising public concern, have grown reluctant to vote for measures that add to federal red ink."

The evidence certainly isn't in the polls. One recent Gallup survey (6/17/10), for example, found that 60 percent of the public approved of "additional government spending to create jobs and stimulate the economy." One of the few polls to ask people to choose between jobs and the deficit directly (CBS/NYT, 4/5-12/10) found 50 percent agreeing that "the federal government should spend money to create jobs, even if it means increasing the budget deficit," with 42 percent choosing deficit-reduction over job-creating stimulus.

If such polls were taken seriously, news reports would state that politicians were bucking public opinion in order to pursue fiscal austerity. But outlets like the New York Times and the Washington Post have turned reality on its head.

'Are there no workhouses? Are there no prisons? Better yet, let them die and decrease the excess population.' Charles Dickens. so, i guess that's the solution that the right has. if you can't find a job, die. if you can't feed your children, better they die and decrease the excess population. if you get sick and can't afford a doctor, then i guess 'you gonna die!' so, the rich get richer, the middle class gets raped and the poor, just let them die! Crimeny! why stop there! let's stop social security! that'll take care of a whole segment of our population over 65. shouldn't take long for them to die. we could just have daily funeral pyres and burn the bodies and bury the ashes. that way, the radical right wouldn't actually have to be reminded of their lack of conscience and soul. let's stop medicare, too. that'll kill off the oldies that have enough money to live on, but need medical care. sure, why not!

big business has bought all of us, hook, line and sinker. they WANT us to be forced to go out and take nothing but minimum wage jobs. pretty soon, only a small elite will be working for anything but minimum wages and the rest of us will be nothing better than a bunch of endenured slaves to corporate america. they want to break the unions because unions hold them to certain standards of wages and behavior that they don't want to live by. businesses want to do whatever they want to their employees without recourse. they want to cut back everyone's income to the level they pay people in third world countries. believe me, they are playing a mind game with us and half you people out there don't get it. if we all run and grab those minimum wage jobs, pretty soon we'll be convinced that we're lucky to have them. meanwhile, the ceos and executives of the companies we work for will continue to take home their millions of dollars in personal income every year. if they break the unions, then there won't be any stopping them from going back to the 'good 'ol days' when your boss could make you work for 12, 15, 18 hrs a day and not pay you anything extra. when your boss could fire you because he was in a bad mood that day. he could lock you in a room and rape you and you could do nothing about it, because it would be your word against his. if you got hurt on the job, you'd get fired, not help. this is the way it was before unions. when you speak out against unions, you speak out against yourselves. the only reason unions are not able to do more for the common worker is because since the 70's and Regan's trickle down economics, more and more power is going to the big businesses and they are using that power and money to paint a picture of unions as the bad guy. i hate to tell you this, but most unions workers do NOT make millions of dollars and have the world at their feet. i worked in a union job for 26 years and i made enough money to live on. i wasn't out buying bmws or living in a mansion. i retired and took my pension with me and two years later the company froze its employees pensions. they blamed the economy but the ceo of that company took home over $15 million dollars in personal income the same year. now, tell me that's the fault of the unions. i now work for another large corporation and although i've been there for three years and do exemplary work(not my assessment, that of my boss) i can't get hired full time. the corporation won't hire full time employees anymore. why should they? corporate america has us so desperate for work that they can afford to hire more people at lower pay and since we're part time, we don't get the benefits of full time workers nor do we get the perks. we get screwed. well, welcome to the jungle, people. corporate america wants a workforce of part time employees at minimum wage, with no benefits, no pensions, no health care. and they gather all that money and ship it off to the cayman islands or switzerland. and you'll have the republicans, mainly, but also democrats who are in bed with big business to thank. maybe if the republicans would work with the president instead of against him, we would have jobs, but they do everything they can to stop any kind of movement forward. obama wants to offer jobs repairing the infrastructure of this country, but congress won't pay for it or give money to the states to do so. even so, a lot of the stimulus money has gone to the states and the same republican governors who dissed the president and his stimulus excepted the money and then tried to take credit for it. i know, because i actually read the news (and not just watch fox or msnbc). every day, i read in the local newpapers about jobs being offered for construction around california. in the last year i've seen more street work being done just around my city than i have seen in the ten years before.

i agree that people need to lower their standards a little when looking for a job. you may not get a job in the same industry as you were in before, but some work is better than none. but, if you have a family to support, working at mcdonald's is just like not working at all. my family is grown so i don't support my kids, but i take care of my mother who is disabled. without her medicare and social security she'd be dead( she's been disable since she was 19. she's 83). so, i guess you might understand why i'm in favor of keeping those services.

Need money?
Cut those Outrageous pensions paid to govt(municipal,state,fed) employees.

WTF! Didn't the US Government give Palestinians $60 million this week? That could have and should have gone to Americans.

No more Deficit Spending for the Unemployed, but for anybody connected to the Mil-Gov-Ind Complex, we can come up with hundred's of Billion's$$$$$$$$$$$$(DEFICIT BE DAMMED) to keep funding two Boondoggle Wars, and keep sending Americans overseas to DIE.

The repugnants have just enough votes to block passage of needed bills thanks to the stupidity of voters in Mass. and the deep south. Thank you Tea Party lemmings for helping put an end to badly needed unemployment benifits for laid off American workers.

Enough has been spent, more than enough, and no change in anything except more government (aka non-producers).

Round up the illegals and kick them out. That will free up about 10 million jobs. Rounding them up will create about a million jobs.

Those on perpetual welfare - tell them to take up the slack. Have more kids and you are on your own.

Union heavy companies, let them fold. The caused their own problems, let them solve them too.

And get rid of government that was created in the last 40 years. Most is a waste of tax payer money as it produces nothing but paperwork.

And lawyers, scum of the earth. Tags for $100, limit one per season/per real person.

Capitalism 2010:

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or get out of the way of private business and let them create the jobs.

toastee,

There's just one huge problem with your remedy. Private business don't give a damn about you and they sure as hell don't give a damn about America. There is blood in the water and corporations can smell it. They love it that unemployment is so high and are doing every thing to keep it that way forever. This allows them to keep wages artificially low and even cut existing wages dramatically and increase their profits. Pilots making a measly $10/hr the same as school bus drivers? Are you effing kidding me! See, there is a culture of greed which has taken over corporate America and it cannot be stopped ever. It's like a cancer. It was given life by the Bush Administration with all their deregulation. Now it has grown so big that it cannot be stopped the end result being the destruction of the country.

Ever notice how there is a fee for everything now? All those fees out there are really the culture of greed (cancer) in action. I'm old enough to remember when there was no such thing as a fee. Now there is a $30 fee just to change your home phone number. And for what? To do so requires hardly no work form the phone company. What, type 6 or 7 characters to change a cross-connect in a switch justifies them gouging thirty dollars out of the consumer? I'll bet you thought there was some real work involved just like they told you. When ever Americans see the word FEE, alarm bells ought to be going off inside telling them that the fee actually means free money for the company/person imposing the fee. But you are all asleep and don't get it and corporations know it. You'll remain asleep too. You and your kind has made corporate America its god. You trust them and you think they care about you. They don't. All they care about is money and they are are going to eat you and your offspring alive to get it.

To Hampster.

I am so angry I could chew nails. Just finished watching Rachel Maddow on the internet where I heard how jobless people were compared to stray cats. "If you feed them, they will just breed more, they just don't know any better" These bas*ards view all poor people in the same light, worthless, lazy baby making dope addicts. Let me tell you politicians that while some may surely fit that mold, there is just as many who do not. You are always talking about running up the deficeit. Well let me tell you that before those eight years were up, it had reached the moon. Maybe you watch the history channel and have seen how it was in the old countries when there was a king or queen who ruled over the peasants. That is exactly (in my belief) what a lot of the elite would like to have happen again. Do you ever wonder why all this stuff is happening? The weather is crazy, people are killing each other, etc. The Federal reserve desides how much interest you pay. All banks log into the Federal reserve at closing time if you ever wondered about it. Most people are blind to what is going on. I hope they wake up and smell the coffee.

Wanna save trillions?

Cut off ALL benefits to illegal aliens and their children.

Some jobs will open up too.

Need money?
Cut those Outrageous pensions paid to govt(municipal,state,fed) employees

Bruce-297800,

What is so f@#$ing outrageous about someone having career goals at an early age, acting on it, and then succeeding in it through hard work? After all the years of sacrifice in service one then receives a pension. That use to be the way of all of corporate America until they got greedy and said FU. BTW, retired military falls into that group you mentioned. Wanna take their pensions too? I'll bet you never even had a career goal or for that matter knew such a thing exists. Typical provisionally minded hillbilly teabaggers.

The party of "no" strikes again.

Republicans don't want the economy to recover, they aren't for the small guy, they don't want health care or financial reform.

What do they want? 8 years to destroy the economy.

Democrats, Republicans, Libertarions, we all have ONE THING in common: we are ALL HUMAN BEINGS. Somewhere along the way the "BIG PEOPLE" got the upper hand and are now devouring all the "little people". I guess the only solution is to have all us "little people" hold hands in a circle aroung the Gulf of Mexico, JUMP IN together, and be smothered in oil and let our rotting corpses soak up the oil. That would solve

ALL of the "BIG PEOPLE" problems, and they can resume their lives in their million dollar mansions... might as well. No one cares anymore. Whatever...

Little Wonder Here……this is just a small news line item on the website of little importance

There was a defeat of the financial reform to limit the executive, manager and middle man bonus of millions on Wall Street just a week ago (The Party of NO and the DINOS). I wonder what the people without jobs and the inability to feed their families think of that. Tony Howard had to hurry back to England to watch his favorite CEO Yacht race; he had to get his life back.

The poor folk effected my the Deep Horizon oil spill will be out of work for a very long time and the Gulf States were already hard hit with a high unemployment rate before defeating this measure to keep families afloat and the money multiplier hard at work.

"The Party of NO" turned its back on these poor folk. I wonder how these people feel about our national "Party of NO", you know the politicians, like Mitch McConnell that held secret meetings with the top Wall Street executives before deliberating on the financial reform bill to fix Wall Street and limit the looting of our treasury. Do they wonder whom is representing them in Washington DC, in the hallowed halls of congress?

"200,000 losing aid per week" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"The demise of the bill means that unemployment benefits will phase out for more than 200,000 people a week. Governors who had been counting on federal aid will now have to consider a fresh round of budget cuts, tax hikes and layoffs of state workers".

After a while you have to start wondering where is the representation of the American people going to come from. "The Party of NO", the DINOS and the media looking for scapegoats for their nightly roast to hem in Obama. He can't do it alone. These "political parties" don't represent you or me.

That Senator almost wept in apologizing for Obama "shaking them down (BP)" for $20 Billion to pay for the destruction of our Gulf Coast. He was almost in tears, and the other RHINOS stood almost silent or wept in silence along with the DINOS.

They will have to pay a lot more than that, Senator!!!

Do you think these 200,000 plus people per week will wonder who is looking out for them and their families in the wealthiest country in the history of mankind? After all their futures have long ago been "outsourced"

I wonder…………….these people are our people not "their" people……

alessa - Post #2.49 ..........something rings eerily true in large parts of your post........good job well done.

Article should read, " stimulus bill failed, now drawing straws...opposed by those with common sense".

All I would like to know is would it make them feel better if I ended it all and then there would be one less hobo, stray animal, or as it was put people that just spend the money on drugs. I have been looking and looking for a job. I would rather be working my butt of for a paycheck than having to get unemployement. Do these people know us or how are lives are. I can not even pay bills or have money to get gas to go on an interview. They all sleep good at night because they do not have to worry about putting food on the table or finding a way to keep your electric bill. I have talk to people with TEC and they even admit that employers now are making it harder for people to get a job that they could of gotten before all this started, but know a job I could have gotten I cant because they are asking now that you have to have a degree.

WHAT A PITIFUL ATTEMPT BY THE LIBERAL PROGRESSIVES TO COVER THE OBAMA A$$!!!!!!!!!!!

Notice how they managed to tuck the $30 BILLION in additional debt in the top one line of the subtitle to barely be mentioned again in the article?

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Face it America, the media thinks you're too stupid to be able to evaluate this massive increase in spending and additional debt creation. They make it sound like we all have to feel bad because of all the goodwill projects they want to "help" with.

"The president has been clear: Americans should not fall victim to Republican obstruction at a time of great economic challenge for our nation's families," Gibbs said in a statement.

F**K YOU Gibbs and the Obama horse you rode in on!!!!! Where's the "laser" this incompetent administration was going to focus on the economy way back in January? Where are all the millions and millions of jobs "saved or created"???? Where's the unemployment under 8%? An $863 BILLION DOLLAR $TIMULU$ bill did absolutely NOTHING but keep the public sectors wages benefits and legacy costs intact while the private sector continues to bleed jobs. And NOW you want to add another $130 BILLION to do what?

COVER YOUR INCOMPETENT A$$ AGAIN!!!!!!!!!

Where the hell is the RESPONSIBILITY? Where the hell is the ACCOUNTABILITY? Where the hell is the TRANSPERENCY? Pay-Go may as well be renamed "Spend Mo". There is NO fiscal policy in this White House. The Congress hasn't even created a budget for 2011 yet, it was only due on or about April 15. Hell this buffoon of a president doesn't even have to worry about paying for the Gulf disaster, BP is covering his a$$ on that! Even Obama's boy-toy Ben Brenanke has warned Obama that,,,,,

“the federal budget appears to be on an unsustainable path.”

APPEARS? APPEARS?????? It IS unsustainable. This ridiculous effort of Keynesian stupidity is exposing Einstein's definition of insanity "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" completely. How many MORE useless $TIMULU$ plans will Obama throw at the economy before he realizes the only way to stop this massive debt and create jobs is through FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY and creating LONG TERM domestic export manufacturing jobs??????? NOT propping up every corrupt and incompetent government program and benefit program with more and more money we DON"T HAVE!!!!!

The rejected bill would have provided $16 billion in new aid to states, preserving the jobs of thousands of state and local government workers and providing what White House officials called an insurance policy against a double-dip recession.

Too F**KING bad government workers!!! You're unemployment rate is 3%!!!!!! The Private Sector unemployment is 10%,,,17% if you calculate everyone in. Government raises and benefits have NOT been stopped or decreased but the private sector is getting destroyed. The ONLY job growth is in the government. The government DOES NOT create wealth,,,IT CONSUMES IT!!!!! Billions of dollars in "green technology" R&D will NOT create jobs now. We need to eliminate NAFTA, CAFTA and the WTO associations we have. We need to SLASH TAXES on business NOT give useless tax credits that no one can use in a recession of this size. We need the F**KING UNIONS to stop demanding that they're wages, benefits and legacy expenses are maintained when the NON-UNION private sector has to struggle to survive!!!!!

Give the unemployed their unemployment benefits and throw the rest of this Bill OUT unless it can be covered by cuts in spending or programs in our massive, bloated, incompetent bureaucracy layered government!

This excerpt from Ezra Taft Benson during his visit in 1959 with then Soviet Premier Nikita Kruschhev should wake up even the most ardent Liberal Progressive Socialist:

“At one point during Khrushchev’s visit, the Soviet Premier boasted to the Agriculture Secretary that Benson’s own grandchildren would live under Communism. Benson replied tartly that he expected to do all in his power to assure that Khrushchev’s and all other grandchildren would live under freedom. The Communist leader then responded in essence, according to Benson’s personal account: "You Americans are so gullible. No, you won’t accept communism outright, but we’ll keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you’ll finally wake up and find you already have communism." "(Soviet Premier of Russia Nikita Krushchev, to Secretary of Agriculture, Ezra Taft Benson 1959.)

God Bless and Help America

Rogue,

I am one of your biggest supporters and consider you a kindred soul, and have for a long time now. But I have to say something here and I 1) don't want you to get me wrong and 2) want you to tell me something outside of our mutual hatred for statist communist a*holes (Dimocraps).

It's like this:

My wife (who has paid into the system for 25 years) lost her job the day before Thanksgiving last. She has been working as a Temp off and on as jobs ebb and flow, while looking for a full time job. I have been trying my best to cover everything on my meager earnings for that long. Two weeks ago her unemployment statement said she was to be "automatically renewed" if she has not found a job by then. When she made her weekly call on Thursday morning she was advised that next week (thanks to the stall in the Senate) she gets $52 and that is the end of her benefits.

I drive for a living. The motor blew in my car about two weeks ago. I have been unable to do my job since. Her unemployment check has been our sole source of income since that time due to circumstances.

I have paid into the system for over 30 years and never asked for a goddamned penny.

Technically I still have a job (just no way to perform it) which makes me ineligible for unemployment benefits. The Dims put all that union pork sh!t in the bill so the Republicans went on principle and shot it down.

BUT WE WILL HAVE NO WAY TO FEED OUR THREE CHILDREN AS OF THE COMING WEEK. OUR RENT IS COMING UP IN A MATTER OF DAYS. WE WON'T HAVE IT. WE ARE FACING EVICTION BECAUSE OF BOTH PARTIES. DIMS FOR PURPOSELY ADDING ALL THAT UNION PORK AND REPUBLICANS FOR BLOCKING THE WHOLE BILL (WHICH BLOCKS MY WIFE'S BENEFITS BEING EXTENDED FOR SIX MONTHS).

I DON'T GIVE A FUKK ABOUT POLITICS AT THIS MOMENT, CONSERVATIVE OR LIBERAL.

MY CHILDREN ARE FACING THE PROSPECT OF BECOMING HOMELESS THANKS TO FUKKSTICK DIMOCRAPS AND REPUBLICANS PLAYING POLITICS.

I HAVE BEEN PUTTING IT TO THE LIBS FOR YEARS NOW, IN EVERY WAY I CAN.

I AM A ROCK-RIBBED CONSERVATIVE FROM JUMP.

BUT I HAVE FALLEN ON VERY HARD TIMES

FIVE YEARS AGO I MADE 55K. HARDLY A HEFTY SUM, BUT IT KEPT US FED , CLOTHED AND SHELTERED. NOW I AM PENNILESS, MY WIFE OUT OF WORK, MY CHILDREN SUFFERING THROUGH THE LEANEST TIMES OF THEIR LIVES.

WHAT THE FUKK AM I SUPPOSED TO DO?

CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPALS AGAINST DEFICIT SPENDING (READ: UNION PAYOUTS) ARE KEEPING MY WIFE FROM HER UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS THAT SHE HAS BY GOD EARNED AFTER 25 YEARS OF PAYING INTO THE SYSTEM.

THANKS TO BOTH SIDES PLAYING POLITICS MY CHILDREN WILL BE HOMELESS IN LESS THAN THREE WEEKS!

I HAVE SUPPORTED THE REPUBLICAN PARTY FOR 15 YEARS.

WE NEED THAT MONEY TO SURVIVE FOR ANOTHER WEEK TO SIX MONTHS!

NO ONE IS HIRING AROUND HERE. IF THEY ARE, THEY EXPECT YOU TO HAVE A DEGREE THAT YOU WON'T USE ON THE JOB OR THEY EXPECT YOU TO ALREADY KNOW THE JOB ON DAY ONE.

WHERE DOES THIS LEAVE MY CHILDREN?

I DON'T WANNA HEAR "THE LIBERALS BLAH BLAH BLAH", I ALREADY KNOW ALL OF THAT.

THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT REPUBLICANS HAVE CO-OPTED TO LET MY CHILDREN GO HOMELESS.

I HAVE BEEN ALL ABOUT THE REPUBLICANS TAKING BACK THE HOUSE SENATE AND WHITE HOUSE EVER SINCE THE DESTROYER CAME ALONG.

NOW I MAY NOT VOTE AT ALL IN NOVEMBER.

THAT WON'T HELP UNSEAT DEMOCRATS, BUT I'M NOT SURE REPUBLICANS DESERVE IT AT THIS POINT.

I AM CONTEMPLATING MOVING OUT INTO BFE AND TELLING BOTH PARTIES TO EFF OHH.

AGAIN,

WHAT THE FUKK AM I SUPPOSED TO DO HERE?

Crimson Ghost..you don't really expect USARogue to respond to your post. The poster is living in a textbook world, completely divorced from reality. Isn't the ability to tell the difference between fantasy and reality called insanity.

Hamster and Brian BOTH see the way it is: Vote me back in so I can piss on you for another term, you sheep!!!!!

Too bad some of their comments are "Collapsed by the Community", too much truth here, can't let that out now, can we?

The Crimson Ghost Post #2.66 and Post alessa #2.49…..among some other very good posts

These are very, very good posts that go straight to the matter at hand. Please supplement these two excellent posts with my minor input post #2.62.

Crimson – that the powers in Congress do not understand that there not but few jobs that pay a livable wage that is substantially above the poverty level is completely lost on these State and especially Congressional Representatives.

We scuttled other measures to pay for this extension of unemployment aid but "The Party of NO" and the DINOS could not find it in their cold hearts due to the total lack of touch with the common plight of the working Americans is so immoral I cannot find the words to express my outrage. How many Billions to we waste on two wars that are going nowhere and the overblown government sector?

That the congress could not pass this legislation is beyond my rage to express how I feel about these traitorous flunkies that nest in those hallowed halls of congress.

Good luck to you, I hope many will read your post and call their representative. I may re-print your post in context to a post that has been brewing up in me for some time now, this also includes "alessa's post" without you contacting me on via my personal page on this vine I will take it I have your permission to quote you. I would not do so without your permission, you can easily hit my screen name and leave a message that you wish not to have me use your post to illustrate the points that you make in said posts.

Good Luck to you both………….excellent posts

Rogue - As usual Rogue you are 10% right, 50% unintelligible and 40% wrong.

toastee, Zip it. You know nothing. Unemployment IS paid by the employee. AND the employer. I DO know, I run payroll.

Damn Crimson,
I can't say I agree with you or USARogue most of the time. But, I am sorry about your predicament. I hope things get better for you man. Good luck brother.

"Unemployment shot up in 2009 from 7.7 percent in January to 10.1 percent in October before settling at 10 percent in December. Behind those percentages were more than 4.1 million people who lost their jobs during the year. According to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, that’s the most job losses in a year since 1940. (BLS could only provide data from 1940-2009)"

"The Business & Media Institute compared 2009 unemployment rates in the first seven months of Obama’s presidency to a similar period of rising unemployment under Pres. Ronald Reagan in 1982."

"BMI found network mentions of the presidential administration were 13 times moe negative under Reagan than Obama. The Reagan White House was connected to negative jobs data almost twice as often as Obama and identical unemployment rates (9.4 percent) were “good news” under Obama, but “all” bad for Reagan."

you liberals lemmings only know exactly what the DNC led media tell you, not hardly the "party of free thinking" that you think you are, more like the party of blind allegiance

The Crimson Ghost

I apologize for not answering sooner, family issues.

First of all, taking a page from the real first black president, Bill Clinton,,,"I feel your pain".

I have 3 family members who have been out of work for over 18 months, with children also. I also have a relative in Louisiana who is already on the brink of losing his business of 24 years. Our family has been helping all of them along with their UE benefits and they are holding together. I understand what you are going through. I wish there was some way I could help. I DO believe that Americans deserve their benefits and as my post stated I support giving the unemployed their benefits but I DO NOT support adding another round of useless earmarks pretending to be $timulu$ that are given to cronies and abused instead of going to the American people.

Contrary to what many may think I WAS a Democrat (shudderrrrr) at one time in my life. I was raised in Detroit by two card carrying union parents (GM and Ford) and I understand the mentality. I left the party when I was working part time at Ford to pay for college. My parents subsequently left the party also in the late 70's. The Democratic party has changed incredibly since then and I have been in the private sector business world AND the public sector in government agencies. I have seen horrors that were supported by our government that never even broke the back page of the Classifieds as news.

Since that time, and what I have learned from various "other" agencies, I have become an Independent and have never voted a party-line since. I am Right leaning simply because of what the Left has and continues to become. Most Americans would be horrified by what I know as far as the "politics" of certain agencies have become because of the Liberal Progressive agenda. I can say that a certain TV and radio host is as close to the truth as I have seen without "censure" over the past few years. Unfortunately most Americans don't know, or I should say are AFRAID to know, the truth about that party. The social justice being flaunted is very compelling and shows the gullibility of many Americans over the past few decades.

Your situation is difficult and I understand. I can assure you the benefits will be extended and you will do OK. I wish I could help you more but as I mentioned I have cash and hope strapped family of our own. I would recommend you continue your Faith in family and country. We still are the greatest nation on the planet. With the awareness of the public to what is truly going on in government none of our spineless politicians will allow any more harm to our citizens. If it gets to that point the scenarios we see in Greece will pale in comparison with what will happen here and abroad.

I know these are just words but I think you are strong enough and courageous enough to do whatever is necessary to provide for your family. After all, if there is no family there truly is no nation.

Look up all the ribbon cutting by republican senators this year with stimulus money, do research on it.

The ribbon cutting is done because some stupid politician gave a useless grant and the representative from the government is expected to be there and celebrate. If a Republican politician decided to stay away from a ribbon cutting you'd crucify him for that too, saying he doesn't care about the people.

Actually, California has a Republican governor who replaced a fiscally responsible Democrat.

Can't we put these people to work in Green Jobs, making wind turbine generators and solar panels? Obama says he wants to start us on the path to energy indepdendence with the same degree of effort this counry put out when we built thousands of tanks, planes and ships. Seems like it would be a good time to start now, especially with so many people out of work. We can't just let these people flounder in this jobless economy. Some might say we don't have money to pay these people. Well, we send 400 Billion overseas to countries that hate us to pay for oil. I would rather give that money to our own people than to people that hate us. Seems to me if we produced our own energy here, that money would instead go to us. We need to start with people living in the Gulf. First Green Jobs need to go there first. Their livlihoods as fishermen don't exist anymore.

Solar panels are expensive. We could make them cheaper if we instead of giving money to people who are unemployed, we instead used that money to offset the cost of the solar panels these same unemployed people, now employed would make by working making solar panels. Those solar panels could then be bought by consumers for a much cheaper price they can afford and then we would put them on the roofs of houses thereby reducing foreign imports of oil. Once the solar panel business gets rolling, the price of them would come down even further. Now as I understand this unemployment bill is for 16 Billion dollars. Here is the deal: Use that 16 Billion dollars instead to offset the cost of solar panels. Solar panels would be so cheap, people would be fools not to buy them.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. It's time for the new direction to begin. The manufacture of hydrogen feuled vehicles and the intrastructure needed to service them would bring millions of jobs to this country. To hell with electric cars. Our grid has rolling blackouts from what we now use so think of what it will be like adding a few million cars to the grid everyday.

All we neeed to do is invest in these alternative energy sources. If we put half the money from war into these projects, we would have a cleaner country and a healthier environment for everyone. Bring on the jobs ...it's time to get off our azzes and make this country survive.

Yeah, I think we need a middle ground here. Some people say to hell with these lazy people! Make them work! And some people say, hey, have some compassion. How about something in the middle making both sides happy? We still give them the money, but we make em work! I think they want to work anyway. On your idea with hydrogen, there is a problem with it. It sounded great at first. The problem is in distribution. The hydrogen molecule is tiny and the slightest opening in piping, that stuff easily escapes. It is almost impossible to transport by pipeline or by tanker trucks. It leaks like a sieve. And it is highly explosive! We already have problems with explosions with natural gas. Hydrogen is much much much worse to deal with. Maybe it could be worked out, but I doubt it.

It's time to have compassion for unemployed people and welfare recipients.

It's time to replace income taxes with income limits.

And...

Let employed people keep 5 or 10% of what they earn.

And

Give the rest to...

Barak Obama and his merry band of Bolsheviks to redistribute to the crack smokers who vote for them.

No offense to junkies and methheads of course.

What are you talking about Steven K.? I live in California, the land of Republican governors, and we are not exactly fiscally sound right now...

With the true blue legislators that have bleed the state dry.

yes, lets start going greener, then lets pay the chinese to do it cheaper. You idiots need to get a clue, that is what is going to happen, reality, like it? Hope and change, keep dreaming.

where is your "swirl" lightbulb made, you know, that energy saving one... read the package you green loving tird.... China!! yep, you sure know how to solve a problem, NOT!!

Steven K - thank you- as someone unemployed for almost 2 years- and still interviewing, believe it is now ALL MY FAULT- I MUST BE A TERRIBLE PERSON.Never collected unemployment- left employer 1, for employer 2, who promptly dropped me that horrible October.Now find, I should drive, for an office position(but cannot), I should look at my background, I should rewrite my resume= this has been done so many times as to become laughable.
Eventually, will just give up, but refuse to be a statistic
Eventually, am not blaming governors- they are more clever than I- they have a job- will go live under a bridge.
Have been a taxpayer all my life- am heart-broken that the world walks by me.Have been told it is my age- sorta discriminatory, have been told if I were a man, but I am not- live in Connecticut

WHY were comment streams 1, 2 and 4 collapsed? Some of the comments in those threads have over 50 votes each. What's the deal here?

By the way, anyone on here experiencing a 17% increase in wealth in 2009?

http://business.newsvine.com/_news/2010/06/22/4543886-worlds-rich-got-richer-in-2009

Arnold is not a republican. He is a democrat in sheep's clothing. And if you do look a the stimulus(pork bill) 2/3 of the bill went to democrat districts. The 1/3 went to republican districts probably by accident. The democrats could have passed just an extension to unemployment benefits by its self but wanted to add a bailout for public sector unions in run down democratic states.

Steven K
Arnold is not a republican. He is a democrat in sheep's clothing.

Jesus H Christ you could say that about any politician that doesnt suit your stereotype. If your going to debate - at least try and not look like a wingnut.

"Gray-out" Davis was many things, but "fiscally responsible"? Not exactly. Then again both Davis and the Governator are tightwads compared to your tax and spend legislature. Glad I decided against moving back to the Golden State (although with one of our local malls that's closing being considered for some taxpayer assisted "urban renewal" to reopen as a "Hispanic" theme mall the border has followed me all the way from San Diego!!) although I do miss surfing (but not all the traffic!) !!

To all you heartless, out of touch repubs/conservatives. How dare you call these people lazy, all they are doing is getting their money back that they put into the system. that's what unemployment insurance is. Not no freaken hand stupid AZZZZZ!!! Bottomline is these people want to work. Are there some that scam the system? sure there are but 98% of these people are hard working people who can't find a job. Repubs don't know crap about the people, this is the middle class that is suffering due to these fat cats repubs.

Aw - after 2 years of doing nothing, the Republicons will now get the credit for cutting off the jobless benefits spigot. What a laugh. You have to admire their timing abilites.

It's time to start building fusion power plants. Fusion car engines. Fusion refrigerators. Fusion cooling and heating systems. What's wrong with people? I just said it now do it!

The opposition to this bill came from both Democrats and Republicans. They wanted to vote for it. But the Democrats refused to pay for it. Average people prioritize how they spend money but Democrats think they can just borrow more and never cut anything. If we need to continue unemployment payments for two years, then we need to find a way to pay for it.

Democrats passed "pay-go" saying they cared about who the government spends money but then passed everything as an emergency so they didn't have to pay for anything.

@Gregg that's B.S. i guess the repibs have no problem paying for 2 wars right. Our boy "W" took money we didn't have to pay for this War so just shut up with this crap already. You poeple make me sick.

How is giving unemployment benefits creating jobs as the senator stated. Our staffing company heres it all the time from people we call with jobs we have available that I am going to stay on unemployment and enjoy the summer. What we are seeing is with their unemployment benefits about to run out that these people decide to start looking for work. We are a small staffing firm but have over 120 job openings for welders and machinists and it is difficult to find people to fill them. Too many individuals are getting used to and expecting the government to take care of them.

America First:

You are 100% correct. The only statement that is actually true on this vine.

I too work in the staffing field and constantly get the same excuses. All these people do is want to hang out and collect unemployment benefits....

USMC: Perhaps you should shut up before making statements that you obviously have no real knowlege of.

I have been unemployed for 2 years and yeah my age is a big draw back. However, you made the statement: "How dare you call these people lazy, all they are doing is getting their money back that they put into the system. that's what unemployment insurance is."

If you knew anything about unemployment insurance you would know that your statement was wrong. The employee pays zero, nada, zilch in unemployment. That is a tax that is put on the employer by the State to cover people when they become unemployed through no fault of their own. You pay not one dime into that fund. When the State has a high unempolyment rate for extended lengths of time and those funds run out they draw funds from other agencies and programs to put in effect what is called Emergency UI benifits. If the crisis continues and those funds run out, they then go to the Federal Government for special funding to extend it. All of these UI benefits come from two sources either the employers or the Feds. The Feds do not have a Unemployment Insurance program therefore they have to borrow the money to help the states out.

You told Greg to shut up. Why? Because everything he said is factual and can be backed up with facts. And you may as well blame your party because they have continually voted to give those funds regarding the wars you talk about. It hasnt just been republicans doing it.

The Democrats did pass a pay as you go bill and todate they have not spent one dime according to the rules of that bill They Passed.

Now I know you wont like anything written here and your probably going to say I'm one of those fat cat republicans you hate but I hate to disappoint you I am one of those guys in the middle who both your parties desperately want my vote.

Jerry Morris -

There are lots of jobs available, maybe YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY WORKING, instead of thinking you are "entitled" to your self image of what type of work you want to be doing and living off unemployment for 2 years!

The GOP clowns will have people hungry in the streets to prove a point. This is pitiful, you lose your job through no fault of your own and these fools play political power. We could best cut the deficit by taking their jobs right now. Bet they wouldn't care how high things were if they couldn't feed their families, I hope all the unemployed march on Washington DC and call al of those stupid self-serving moroons. Those who admire this, may God grant you the knowledge to know how these peolpe feel. Anyone can be faced with unemployment at any given day, and savings do not last long in this economy. It's easy to be pompous when you are working and have a lilttle money but that could change, and tomorrow is another day. All these GOP clowns are in this to give Obama's administration a black eye but in the end, America will be ruined for good ,by selfish self-serving idiots. The national deficit can't be paid unless we all get jobs and pay it; big businesses have loop holes and the GOP, wake up America and smell the burning. You don't have to have the brains of a rocket scientist to see what is happening, and they insult our intelligents by saying the national deficient and our grandchildren will be in bondage. If we don't make it through this folks, where will our grandchildren be??? We need to think out side of the box, and see the big picture; this horse and pony show is ruining America and needs to stop; If the GOP's had better ideas , damn they should have spoken up and used them, but all they do is block any ideas this administation has. It's ok to block but what is your ideas? put them out there and let the public chose, we live in a democracy, this is not a dicatorship. The GOP wants this to be a one party rule, if they don't control they will mess up the whole country with chaos until they are back in power. I've never been a campaigner but damn in 2012, I'm starting.

Republican obstructionism! They oppose job creation and want families to starve!

Why not... it does not hurt them.... Let them eat... from dumpsters! This after the Republicans spent 8 years off shoring American jobs...

"Republican Values" in practice

A good buddy of mine lost his job last November, He's stopped looking for work and has stated to me " why should I work, they keep on extending benefits and it looks like I may not have to start even thinking of work for another year ".

People like collecting... There getting use to it....

I asked him why don't you consider taking a lower paying job until you find some work in your chosen feild and he said " why work for $ 10.00 to $ 12.00 an hour when I can collect and sleep in ".

Wake up America, 50% of us are working to support the 50%

the parties over, back to work !

This is why we chose not to elect Republicans in 2008... Their party politics and policies are destructive to anyone that is not rich!

How DARE you be unemployeed! It is YOUR fault that the Republicans off shored your jobs, and crashed the US economy with trickle down economics!

"Republican Values"

Captain, your buddy is an idiot like i said before there are some people who will game the system, but he is in the minority. The majority of the unemployed want 2 work but can't find any. 2nd unemployment does not pay enough 2 stay on it in the 1st place, so believe me these people want a job. Now your buddy who you say won't take a $12hr job is just lazy $12 dollars an hr job pays more than unemployment benefits, so does an $10hr job. Like Mary said people will be starving in the streets just like the great depression days. That's what the repubs want. 2 tell you the truth i hope it does get that way so people can see that the conservative/repub agenda is going 2 be the death of this country. Never in the history of the U.S have an extreme conservative nut been elected. Never except Reagan. They want chaos so be it.

A very Happy Day for most Americans, the not lazy ones anyway. We can not afford to keep the forever-unemployment benefits. Last year, Obama expand the government, so this year he need money to pay their salary. Next year, he would need it again and again and again and again. This is what happens when the government employment is too BIG.

@mybestfreind, you just made my point people like you are the 1's who will runin this country. I guess these unemployed people were lazy while they were working 2 huh!! you people are so stupid, just keep listening 2 Fox news, & Beck, & Limbaugh, you think they give a whoot about you. They don't have 2 worry about money because they are laughing all the way 2 the bank.

A very Happy Day for most Americans, the not lazy ones anyway.

Republicans off shore the jobs, crash the economy,and then want people to starve. All while blaming the people who had their job off shored for the problem!

"Republican Values"

usmc: proud to call you a fellow marine. These people are sick nazis that understand nothing of how the system works: you dont get anything if you haven't paid into it. Observer and America First: you and others in the staffing agency fields are part of the problem. NO: you are the problem. You discriminate by: age, lack of emplyment, sex, movement between jobs, credit status, and for some criminal record of any kind. The worst scourge for mobility of the american worker is HR. Usually staffed by people who have never done anything in their lives. Nothing. And they pay themselves vast amount to what amounts as obstructionism in a business. This money should go to workers in operations, not sitting on their fat ass in an office. Politicians have raped this country since the end of the cold war. Deregulation has led directly to the loss of the middle class. They are all thieves, They and anyone in collusion with them should be guillotined- so: it is amzing that you two freaks (and many other Republicans on here) blame the unemployed. This is one of the smallest spending bills out there- it is miniscule compared to the dreck they have spent money on. I hope every one of the 200,000/week that are dropped from the roles switch to the Democratic party. Once again, usmc: you are not alone in your thinking.

These people are sick nazis

ohhh yea!!! NAZIS! Let me guess, you have a huge gay man crush on Glen Beck!

You ran out of credibility there, so I stopped reading... you are a waste of canine reproductive fluids.

Rock, I couldn't have said it any better. I have friends of mine that are hard core conservatives that i get into heated debates with about this issue, & when its all said and done they have no responce when i educate their small minded beliefs. I say 2 then you tell me what true conservative have ever been elected to highest office, their answer is always Reagan. Then i say 2 them did you know that he rasied taxes 11 times during his 2 terms in office. Also he is the reason why we are in this mess 2 begin with. Get a clue people the republican/conservative party is not for the working people of this country, never have been and never will be. Semper Fi!!! Rock.

It's funny, so many here say, "use the stimulus money". Don't you republicans remember that you screamed not to use the stimulus money to help with jobs.

Republicans don't want jobs to come back, they want Americans really hurting so that they are angry when they go to the polls. It's the only way for republicans to get back into power.

Republicans do not support out of work Americans !

Democrat governors running their states into the ground??? What do you have to say about Arnold in California? Get a clue, get a life. The repugs will vote NO for the average citizen. They want Obama to fail. Cutting off the life support of the unemployment benefits will further destroy the economy. Wait till the next round of home foreclosures happen, and more people are homeless. Then the repugs will blame Obama for that, and say they can do better. Yeah, right. Bunch of losers, these repugs.

Dems, decouple your political agenda items from the actual jobless benefit extension legislation!!!! It will then be passed! You know this! Quit politicizing this!!!!

I don't usually side with the GOP but good for them this time.
When are people going to wake up. The longer you pay people not to work the longer they will remain unemployed. It's got to stop. And now it will.

usmc/rock

You did not pay into FUTA/SUTA.

People receive money from agencies they have not paid into all the time.

Go stand in line at the affectionately called "Unemployment" Office (officially known as Employment Office) and get cozy with the benefactors. I, actually, had to witness a guy with his cronies, proudly and loudly conversing everyones need to vote Democrat or else get to work. You will find some legit people but you would have to be deaf, dumb and blind to ignore the environment.

I am not going out on a limb here, when I say the extensions have played a major role in the current malaise and contemptous concept of working.

Mgreen again you, & people who think like you have no clue what you are talking about. I know people personally who have busted their butts all of their life, have a home, car, kids, 2 pay for that have lost their good paying jobs. You again like a lot of people look at a few bad apples out there and want to group them with people who really need these little checks just 2 put a little food on the table, & pay and few bills. This is not over with, this recsession will get worse before it gets better. Funny how the repubs want 2 blame the dems for this when they are the 1's that created it over the last 30 yrs. They want you 2 forget that they are the cause of it. If they get back into power this country is finished for the next 30 years. You tea partiers want to see a real revolt. You will see 1 if your kind gets into office.

I am not a Party and if my kind is the kind that believe what the strong possibilities are for this nation if it would quit drinking from its cup of excuses and cling to the true principles of greatness with understanding that the civilian govt should be the last on your list of needed resources in your journey, I stand accused.

ahh go off shore some jobs, and then blame the unemployed people you just created for being unemployeed! While you're at it, give yourself a raise with all that money you just saved by hiring 12 year olds in India.

"Republican Values"

State govs have been riding the storm out with rainy day funds set aside for crisis like this. Hardly spendthrift ways the GOP liars claim. The only thing GOP doesn't like is the tax hikes on oil comp. looters and thieves, and their economy crashing hedge fund managers. After all, they need a lower tax rate than some poor slob working for minimum wage. Oh my! That's the problem. We need to eliminate the minimum wage act, bring back the company store, debt bondage, and child labor. We can end all retirement benefits as well. Just let BP, and Massey Energy set workplace safety standards. With a body count of about 50, these two corps. have shown their answer to unemployment.

The tears roll down from my eyes. Obama has a majority and can't get an additional pork passed. The bill was so good, it would increase the tax on domestically produced oil, what about foreigh oil? Increase tax on investment brokers, hurts the average person that has a 401 or IRA as the additional tax WILL be passed to the people using the investment broker, not just the "rich". And the biggest heart tug, would save thousands of state and local government jobs (read also fed jobs). It is about time the Government people had to worry about the same thing all the rest of the nation feel, is my job secure? 16 billion added to the huge debt this Obama has created, largest increase in history. I know the D's will scream it was BUsh. Get over Bush you fools, he has not been in office for 18+ months , your great socialist/communist Obama is the reason for this disaster. I can see it now, campaigh 2012, Obama at a debate about the economy and his comment will be - "It was Bush that caused me to create the biggest debt load on America, i had nothing to do with it, and Poor medical insurance/care, Bush did that also , he forced the bill through against the will oaf America, not me", I agree with Hope and Change - I hope for a change in control in Congress this year and the White House in 2012. Now that is Hope and Change I can get behind!

I think that this Great Recession has broken some of the rules for normal unemployment benefit lengths. However at some point there needs to be a different answer than continue to spend money we don't have! Most of the government sector has been immune to the recession and that's simply wrong with the exception of the military where we should be expanding jobs and eliminating money pissed down a hole to KBR and other PRIVATE CONTRACTORS for functions the military is or should be capable of providing! Government should be reducing the size of departments and especially overlap where more than one department does the same function!! That's bad enough in normal times, but in the Great Recession, it's asinine!!

Nope.

As I posted above, studies have consistently shown that most unemployed don't get serious about getting a job (other than a "dream job") as long as they draw benefits. The rate of unemployment drops considerably after benefits end.

It may not apply to you specifically, but it's not up to ME to pay YOU (or anyone else) for nearly two years of not working.

Doctor Larry - you need to cite your sources for your "studies."

Doctor Larry: Does unemployment compensation really go on for up to two years now? Wow, that is some sabbatical from working! Where do I sign up?

Here are a couple. You can find more. It's really quite obvious.

http://www.operationspaix.net/sites/politiquessociales.net/IMG/pdf/dp3570.pdf

http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Unemployment.html

Earlier this year, Congress approved up to 99 weeks of unemployment benefits backed by the federal government — an addition of 73 weeks to the traditional 26 offered by the states. Congress is trying to increase the extension beyond 99 weeks. Obviously, 2 years is 104 weeks, so that is where they are headed.

I empathize with the unemployed because I have been there. It was a bad time so I started a small business (me) and beat the bushes to get work. I did some jobs that some would say were "beneath me", but it paid off.

For all of you true believers who think that being on umemployment is:

1. some kind of extended vacation and enjoyable

2. nirvana and enjoyable

3. intentional and enjoyable

Tell me when and where I should show up to take your job so that you can begin your new grand life style. It just infuriates me to no end to listen to all of you who believe all you need to do is go out and find a job. I know it is asking a lot of you to think of your fellow Americans as real people, but give it a try some time. Don't worry though I am well past the point of thinking there is a brighter future out there for those who just keep trying. All I have to do is read the on line opinions (Newsvine and others) to know that there is no hope for the future of this country. It is a downward spiral, just keep watching....

To all of those people judging the unemployed--be kind!

I was unemployed/underemployed in Michigan for 1.5 years. I recently started a new job. There were 800 resumes for 2 positions. I hit the lottery.

It was a miserable climb back to normalacy.

Interesting. EVERY potetial employer I applied/talked to says, "OVER-QUALIFIED", I lower my standards more (as dictated) and I'm told "OVER-QUALIFIED..."Let's see one, just ONE Republican Senator walk out (That's a chore in itself!) and get a job Mowing Glass, etc. or even sacking Groceries as a Temp., first of all they would NOT be hired! Why? "OVER-QUALIFIED" And for those that can't understand, hey things have changed for the worse. This is 2010, even teenagers see the Mexican invasion is stealing simple jobs, like Certified Nursing Assistants that were "Candy-Stripers"and Mexican Lawn Care Specialists vs The Kid Next Door. They are told "you need experience", go get a college degree. Fine, what if your folks DON'T want you to succeed? Not every race has organized support waiting for you! Try to show some consideration, "Tony".<BP CEO or Republican Senators

Some of you posters seem to think this is for more than 99 weeks of unemployment. The bill was just to continue the current extended benefits till the end of the year for people that didn't get 99 weeks.

For example, I lost my job last December and just ran out of unemployment insurance with the standard 26 weeks only. I won't get ANY extended benefits that others got. The small amount of unemployment I was getting was also the only way I could keep my COBRA health insurance. So that's gonna have to stop too.

I've worked continuously for 30 years and never collected a single dime of unemployment until now.

Really, when i received my 276 per week in unemployment I was even more frantic to find a job. God get me off this stuff. Couldn't find a reason to let that drag on too long. I came to realize if this was all there was desperation to get a job set in really quickly.

What part of we dont have the money dont you people understand maybe thats why you dont have a job your to dam stupid wake up.

We don't have enough money? Perhaps, but why don't we have enough money? Your too dam stupid (sic, you genius, you) to realize that Obama's hands were tied from the get-go. I wonder what else he could possibly have done. Meanwhile, Bush also had to spend $152 billion in stimulus funds, followed by a $700 billion payout. (Now why in the world would he do that?). Nary a thing was said then...heck, why did the rest of the so-called developed world affected by the meltdown have to approve and spend stimulus funds for their own economies? Perhaps Obama was somehow insidiously involved and managed to convince them to run their economies into the ground, too?

I suppose we had just enough money for Bush to spend...

kAIZARO------ Yeah, we know leech, Obama inherited it.

No, he spet 200 million and a year running for it.

He said he was going to,hit the ground running.

Looks like the inept liar should have looked to see which way the train, was going before he jumped.

Understand yet, the low life is doing doodley squat and we ain't buying any more.

The thing about the unemployed drawing benefits is this: they did have a job and they were working before being laid off. The import of this is that they had paid into the system and were eligible for unemployed benefits. It's all the other people who have contributed nothing, nada, zip to the US tax economy who drawing all sorts of other benefits that get my last nerve.

Dude....See, this is why America has gone to the dogs. These critics' thought processes, while totally handicapped by a complete lack of sense, are often a mysterious and awesome thing to behold.

This economy is shot to pieces because Obama spent a year and 200 million on his campaign.

Because Obama promised to hit the ground running during said campaign, the economy collapsed to the state it is in today.

I'm desperately trying to figure out what whatever may or may not have been said during the campaign has to do with imploding our economy. Then again, Jerry, I give up. You're right. This country was doing just fine under Bush. Obama came along, and nothing has ever been the same since.

get a job so you won't suffer. fortunately, tax payers and educated hard workers who don't want a nanny state out number the parasites who want a permanent gov't paycheck. the atm as a cashmachine is over. this country will not recover with millions of unmotivated leeches on the payroll.

huskyforliberty: I have been working CONSISTENTLY since I was 14 years old and I got laid off last year. I have been looking for a job and if you live in California, you would know that's its very hard. I'm even considering moving out of state to get another job; which I don't want and cant afford to do. The unemployment has helped me but unless I get a job, I have to go on welfare, which I don't want....AND I AM A TAXPAYER SWEETIE!

So I take it personal when you say unmotivated leeches. There are people like me who are really trying to find another job; but its hard. TELL THOSE REPUBLICANS AND THOSE PEOPLE WHO WANT A SARAH PALIN/NANNY STATE THAT THE ATM MACHINE IS OVER!!!

husky

since no dem has ever worked - all those unemployed parasites looking for unemployemnt checks must be unmotivated Republcian leeches who just want government paychecks...

thanks for clearing that up for us -

Got the White House, got the Senate, got the House, and cant govern at all; but never fear, we always can blame the republican minority for all our problems.

Way to go demorats!!!!!!!!!!

Your true colors are showing through.

good old gtc - we get it - the republicans can't be blamed for anything - because they never do anything...

you are underestimating whose true colors are showing through - latest rasmussen poll says 72% of Republicans believe their Republican representatives in Congress are not listening to the will of their Republican constituents...

guess it is not only the dems blaming you Repubs for our problems - be careful when you look in that mirror!

you forgot the one thing you Repubs do have - "the fillibuster" - you have used it and the threat of it very effectively....

always good to hear from you gtc...

Why cant this jobs bill get passed, just like the other three that did?

The democrat senators that are stalling now, didnt in the other three votes? Could it be that, um. let me see, that November is coming soon, and these Democratic Senators are trying to seem responsible now, and not add further to the debt?

What a blatant insult it is for these "senators" to be trying to pander to their constituency now, in late June, when they didnt earlier this year, late last year.

Any fool that buys this ploy that they are playing is simply that, fools, that are unworthy of voting period.

As for me personally, Im proud that someone is attempting to look out after our grandchildren's futures, instead of a party that really doesnt give a damn how big our deficit is, or how large our national debt is, even though that countries that are holding our "note" dont seem to care for us very much.

Guarantee you, if the money can be found, , but the "majority" doesnt want to find it, the Republicans would pass this bill in a heartbeat.

you live in California

Suggestion. You might want to consider relocating.

Trust me wayne, if I had the money I'd be outta here! California has gone down tremendously. I am so disappointed in this state. The Governors candidates are both jokes; and they current governor makes me sick.

It isn't as easy as you think i was layed off, have a job pays pennies, can't sell my house to move, what am i suppose to do leave my home to get a job in another state, ifsomeone paid what i owe on it that would be great,but that isn't going to happen.

So funny, I live here in California. I have not had a hard time finding a job nor my wife. We just moved back here from Colorado. Maybe you should try to revamp your resume or go to back to school.

denige

So why dont the people of california support Arizona and get the Illegals out so those jobs open up; how about rally all those liberals out there and get pelosi out worst thing California exported.

b dune------- nah not true that was about half of the dem leeches that worked, but they all quit and are now living in public housing, drawaing welfare and WIC.

Going to get tuff, sunshine, you might want to look for some "relearn to work" classes", going to get hungry for the parasites.

bsavages: good for you. not sure where you live, in northern CA, its a lil different guess. School is next.

Jerry

thanks for proving my point - if the dems are now living on welfare they are not getting unemployment checks - must all be republicans parasites on unemployment.

thanks sunshine!

What happened to compassion? It is political rhetoric on steroids because you listen to hate speak so you have to attack.

I live in Texas where the recession has had a minor impact when compared to states like Michigan and California. The company I work for has laid off 150 employees dropping our total to 850. Another 150 are scheduled as well in the next 6 months. The industry I work for is in dire straits (mainly due to globalization). This is while the corporate executives are being paid millions in bonuses as well as millions in severance packages (golden parachutes).

Over the past 6 months, I have been offered 6 jobs - only to have each position to dry up and disappear. All were a pay cut ranging from 15%-40%.

I am very sympathetic for those who are seeking jobs but are unable to find one.

Those who claim it is so easy finding a job have been extremely lucky and need to consider that before commenting.

Moving is a serious financial committment - especially from California, Nevada, Arizona, Florida - where home values have plummetted.

Good luck to those of you who are unemployed and seeking employement.

To those who are criticizing the government and your fellow citizens - rediscover your patriotism and duty to country as well as your Christian duty to your fellow man.

Do some of these GOP schills even understand that Un-employment benefits go to people who WERE employed and paid money into the system for those benefits, and are only collecting now because they lost their job...

I worked 12 years in a very tough print-room production job and quit my job 2 years ago- Since I quit, I could not colect any un-employment benefits even though I paid into the system, but I would never deny those benefits from other hard workers that lose their job through no fault of their own.

This is Un-employment benefits, NOT WELFARE..!

So lets see now.. The GOP wants to apologize to the oil companies for having them pay for their oil spill damage, and they want to deny hard workers their benefits when they lose their jobs because the economy went down the garbage chute, jobs that were lost with the deregulation by the GOP of the banking industry (whom they also bailed out with billions of our taxpayer money).

So have I got this right that the GOP wants government to take care of the big biz' monopolies instead of the American People? I hope the American people remember this come voting time.

to zztops: thank you for your post. unfortunately, for the right wing radicals here, you may be preaching to the deaf and blind. you have to have a conscience before it can bother you and from what i have read the obama haters here have no conscience to be bothered with. Jesus taught to love one another as we love ourselves. i can only imagine we have alot of people out there who hate themselves. Jesus gave us the story of the good samaritan. i'll be half the people on this stream don't even know what i'm talking about. and you know, you don't have to be a christian to understand that His teachings are good. you don't have to believe in God to understand that in order for a society to flourish we must not just think about what is good for us, but what is good for everyone else, too.

i didn't quite understand if you were still working or had been laid off. if you're still working, hang in there. i believe things will get better. these things are cyclical and we've seen these downturns in employment before. i have to believe the glass is half full. if you're out of work, then i will think of you and everyone else who is struggling out there and pray you find work soon.

we americans are more powerful than we give ourselves credit for. we can force big business to bend to our will and not the other way around. if you want banks to stop ripping you off, go join a credit union. they're all over the place. credit unions are smaller, so you get more personalized care and you don't get screwed. i've been with a credit union for 30 years and i'd put my money in a mattress before i would go back to a bank. if you know some company just moved its workforce overseas, then stop buying their products! i do that. i'm careful about what i buy and from whom. i do whatever i can to support small local businesses even if that means spending a little extra money. but, i'm just one person. imagine if everyone in the country boycotted i don't know, let's say BP. it might take some doing to make sure you weren't buying their products, but it could be done. to be honest they're such a large company all over the world, it wouldn't break them, but it sure as heck wouldn't help them and who knows it might catch on. we could rally against large companies that lay off workers. we could demand that our congress force these companies to pay for their laid off workers to be retrained for other jobs, unless they could prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they couldn't afford it. that means their ceos and executives would have to forgo their bonuses, golden parachutes and obscene incomes. what shame that would be.

If you think the Dems are going to create YOU a job with a jobs bill, you deserve the demo-idiot party. Increasing taxes does not create jobs. Taking wealth does not create wealth. Look at California: Exhibit A. The worst state in the union on everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And look how many jobs all that tax money taken over the years has created/saved - NONE! 12-15% unemployment and higher under employment. Keep drinking that Kool-aid.

The real party of NO please stand up. Drum role........Thank You Democrats...take a bow, bend over as you say to the rest of us. Remember that guy called Bush? Yeah, the one you like to blame everything on. Which party was it that opposed and criticized Bush on EVERYTHING? Democrats. Bush could not wipe his butt without the media the demo-idiots critiquing him.

This legislation was an election year ploy to get voters mad at Republicans. Good job Dem's for playing on the emotions of the down trodden, again.

Some say relocate. Relocate where? To the Gulf Coast? Soon, we're going to have a whole lot of people relocating from the Gulf Coast relocating to all over the country taking what few jobs there are. Now add those people you are telling to relocate to the Gulf Coast people who will be relocating we can see that is no solution. Better for everybody to stay right were they are and let the jobs come to them. What jobs you ask? Green jobs! No, the only thing I see pulling us out of this funk is Green Jobs. Nothing else.

this is so ridiculous! first of all to the losers that say we the unemployed are leeches!!!?????????? i see the word employed in there! i have worked for 35 years of my life!!!! i lost my career job..yes my career job,just gone. new company came in went from 1200 to 800 employees in 6 months. all the day 1 employees from this firm were axed, no pkg offered a pink slip! you got that for the ones calling us leeches???????????? i have moved 3 times ,sent out 256 resume's!!!!!!!! got 15 interviews all , did i get a call back no.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they said everything from over qualified,or not enough for the job. i am a 50 yr old female!!!!!!!!! i and so many need to have the extension approved. while relocating and traveling to other states to apply and interview, i have spent my 401k money as well!!!! you got that to the ones calling us leeches!!! walk a secong in my shoes you gloats. you would be perfect for a republican seat!!!!!! this is so ridiculous, being a single person, i have had my car repossed,evicted, now have health issues from all the dang stress of wanting to work and can not find a job!!!!!!!!!!!! not to mention no health insurance!!!!!!! ignorant people as in stupid just cant be fixed! first time i have ever collected unemployment as well!!! i will soon be in a homeless shelter, snf getting assistantance from the state...what a jokeif i was an illegal person or layed on my butt and had 10 kids to collect welfare then i see your point!!!but again let me tell you like you have been told!!!! you do not get welfare when collecting unemployment. and you do not collect unemployment unless it is in your favor!!!! so to the stupidity to you sll that associate unemploment pay to welfare you are wrong!!!!! my heart goes out to all of you normal people here that is inneed of the extension!! i pray for all of us this will get through!!!! have a blessed night to the non stupid people!!!!

I now what you are saying Texas Lady laid of in December 2008 just before XMAS, been looking and sending resumes everywhere even places that I am not totally qualified for hoping they can look over that and put me to work, I am 56 and still able to work well but no one wants to take the chance. Coming up with BS of being over/ under qualified or down right will not give me a reason. The whole thing is a mess and I say the government broke it they should fix it. I was just denied my first extension because they will have to wait to get more money from Feds and now reading this looks like it will be awhile longer before anything happens real bummer, jobs are scarse in my line of work but I apply to everyone that I can find even the 16.00 dollar jobs oh well at least it is a job. Out of all the resumes I have sent out I have had 3 interviews and no offers of a job, I think even they are not supposed to do it they are discrimanating thinking us older people can not do the work. Love to be a fly on the wall after I leave the interview just to hear what they are saying. The whole situation is not good. The Government needs to wake up and fix the problem quickly or there will be another rush of foreclosures coming very soon!!!!

RememberAsha,

"This is Un-employment benefits, NOT WELFARE..!"

How many years before it becomes Welfare? For those of you who say they can't relocate because it costs too much, can't sell your home, etc... You gotta do what you gotta do. Sell as much stuff as you can, pack up the car, move to where the jobs are. The house gets foreclosed on, oh well. You're just joining the 90,000 who are having their home foreclosed on every week. Get a grip people. Success is not a Constitutioinal guarantee. However, you're living in the greatest country in the world where you can pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start over with painful lessons learned.

Remberasha,

This is how unemployment payments work...your EMPLOYER pays the benefit for the first $7000 of your income which works out to around $52/year/employee. Your EMPLOYER, not YOU, pays into the system. That is why you get benefits when you are let go and not when you quit. So you are not "getting back what you paid in" because you did not pay anything. The insurance, like all insurance, has a set number of months or a set amount of money (based on your pay). When that set number or amount is met, insurance that was bought is no longer paying it, that is why the extentions are being paid for with borrowed money.

I am not saying that the extensions shouldn't happen as my husband was on unemployment for 6 months before thankfully finding a job. What I am saying is the extensions need to be funded without putting our country more in debt. What happended to all of the stimulus money? What was stimulated if we are still have to come up with borrowed money to pay for unemployment extensions?

My uncle has been collecting un-employment for over a year now. I don't think he has any plan of going back to work because he is vacationing around the country.

YEAH! Your uncle is probably an REPUBLICAN!

move to north dakota, we have jobs, www.jobsnd.com
sorry but YOU dont pay anything in to unemployment, the business does and no business has paid enough unemployment insurance to keep let you stay on it for YEARS, sorry but once the initial pool of unemployment insurance ran out it became welfare, now you are sucking the taxpayer teat!

Stupid... just plain stupid! The marjority of economic experts have said repeatedly that we need to continue stimulous programs -- even at the risk of adding to the debt -- to keep us from double-dipping.

Are these the same "experts" that told us the stimulus would keep unemployment below 8%?

(Hint, the answer is yes).

(Hint, the answer is some).

Cathy

Those experts said the stimulus would work and create or save millions of jobs. Obviously that isn't working for you. So take a look at the money spent lets just round it off at about $800 Billion. When the stimulus was passed there were approx 14 million Americans put out of work. If those same economists had been smart they would have screamed at the President to invest half the money into a fund for the creation of small businesses and the other half into an unemployment fund. The small business fund could have been used to start about 200,000 small businesses if each needed $2 mil a piece for startups. Put a requirement that to get the money that the enterpreunur would have to put 10-15 people to work. Bam 2-3 million people back in a real job. Give that same enteprenuer incentives for hiring more and keeping them on for a year. Give that same person more incentives and tax credits the second year that he maintains or increases employment.

The other $400 billion could have been placed in an unemployment fund. With that money the 14 million unemployed could have drawn $300 a week for two years even if the fund wasn't drawing interest. The idiots in charge wasted money on short term jobs and making sure public service union workers could keep their jobs. They spent barely anything to help create long term or sustainable jobs.

Cathy - The marjority of economic experts have said repeatedly that we need to continue stimulous programs

Where did you hear this? on MSNBC?

Economists know as well as everyone else that the "stimulus" was a complete waste, they sure as hell don't want to continue it. If you're too short-sighted to see the long-term effects of this waste, or you only care about getting your "free" handout, that is your problem.

"Economists: The stimulus didn't help"

"a majority of respondents felt the fiscal stimulus had no impact."

http://money.cnn.com/2010/04/26/news/economy/NABE_survey/

Out of the 3/4 Trillion spent on the "stimula$$" I can cite TWO examples (CARS or "Cash for Clunkers" and the similar appliance program) where money was spent with a specific goal THAT IT MET. I may have had a couple of issues with the implementation of them but compared to the other $740+ billion spent it was wise useage of the Stimula$$ and money well spent because it helped save jobs! Too bad the rest of the Stimula$$ didn't follow similar guidelines or we probably wouldn't still have double digit unemployment (gotta go,got an interview!!)!!

Fred G. from N.C.... Those programs worked because you got something for your money(cars and appliances). The other money went to banks and insurance companies, and what did we get for the money...bonuses and bank profits(nothing). Kind of tells you something about where the priorities are.

Yes, stupid. We have too many stupid people in America. If people are not too stupid, they would have figure out a way to earn a living, right? Even uneducated non-english speaking poeple can survive in this country, so what excuse do the english speaking have?

If you are jealous of these people than tell your president to enforce the immigration law.

Party affiliation doesn't matter anymore...the whole system is on the verge of crumbling due to pee pee poor management with either taxpayers' money or, more likely, iou's to China. Time to "cowboy up" folks and face reality. Vote independent, vote wisely...and if there's no one running for office that's worthy of your vote, then don't. Not voting sends a clear message, too.

Joe Biff...yeah, and the message is, if you get the electorate apathetic enough, it takes less votes to win.

Not necessarily...instead of voting, how's about rising up ( aka an uprising) and demanding our voices be heard? No one in D.C. listens now, so let's try another tactic. Worth a try, I'd say.

With grins on their smug faces.

All the republicans want are cuts made somewhere else to pay for it. Furthermore if its such a great deal, democrats can ram it through like they did with health care take-over.

So the Republicans are willing to cut off unemployment benefits (by the end of this week) for a million people just to make a point? BTW - where is the "somewhere else" that they want the cuts to be made? Do they have zilch for details in their "plan" as usual?

Ummm - how hard is it to understand that the DEMs control Congress and the White House. They can pass anything they want to.

Can liberals not read? Or are there faces just "too smug"?

The Republicans are deliberately stalling this bill. Read the article yourself.

Hey Larry!!! - this article has just been updated and the title has changed. Can you guess what it has been changed to? I'll give you a hint: it has the words "republicans" "kill" "jobs" and "bill" in it. Now,I wonder why they didn't blame the Democrats, since, according to you "they control congress"? But that sure would be a convenient excuse for Republicans, if only it were true.

hey Doctor Larry

since you can read - look up the term fillibuster!

The Republicans are deliberately stalling this bill. Read the article yourself.

Thank god someone is. After we blew $787 BILLION last year, and what do we have to show for it.

Thank you for putting a small and probably temporary stop to the insanity. Financial Responsibility does not even register with B.O.'s ego.

The republicans keep shooting themselves in the foot. I would have conceded that they would probably pick up a few suits in november as is normal in midterms for the minority party. Their actions against everyday americans and for corporate america will come back to bite them seriously. I will rally every friend, neighbor and relative to put these fat cat republican representatives in the unemployment line come election day.

EVERY 1----- Jeez sunshine, we dont need any more votes, Obama has done a really wonderful job, of kicking himself, out of office. We are just going to allow him what he wants.

Sweetness, maybe you should take up, cocaine, you don't seem to be having a lot of luck, with logic.

I have worked steady for over 40 years, got laid off just before (added a real "humbug" to my Xmas spirit). I have never drawn a cent from unemployment or disability ever then I get turned down for my first extension, not second or third my first extension. I have been looking for work daily and every job that I am remotely qualified I get a resume to them immediately, I am over 50 and out of those hundred or so resumes sent out over the last 7 months I have had 3 interviews that is all and no job offers. The Government broke it they should fix it open up the purse strings on unemployment and quit playing all those stupid political games this bill should have been a separate bill not combined with anything else, passed, then get on with fixing the country that they broke. I see another wave of forclosures in the horizen if they don't.

everyhas
Give me a break , will you
Repubs, or Democrats, there is no hope, there is no future.I pay for rent, as well as my own insurance, would you like to have days where no blame was assessed,and you had a job? I always did

Robert's (Post 8.12) logic is correct. The govt. was only tooooooooo happy to steal our money to bail out its financial friends but the people who foot the bill (taxpayers) can take a hike.

ok 1) there are more democrats than republicans in the senate so don't place the blame solely on them like this tech rag leads you to believe. that's right you have to blame the democrats because with out them the repubs would have lost. think man think.

The little people need to go work, best yet, go get in line for welfare checks. Isn't this what the democratic party wants for Americans, to depend on government forever?

No! Don't sit back and watch it happen! Get out there and support and vote for the Dem that's running against them, even if you don't solely agree with them and take that seat away from Rep so that we can get something done in the Senate.

#9...agreed

The Illegal who work with fake social security number, do get taxes taken out. Their major problem is they can not file for returns, therefore the Government gets to keep the money.

Since they are being paid low wages the business benefits also. It's a win situation for the Government and a win situation for business's.

Illegals are a drag make no mistake about it however, they are still taking the work for wages that are beneath the average American which I can also understand.

# 1.27 said it correctly.

People who collect unemployment compensation WORKED. They were not bums, but now they will be because of the Republican idiots in Congress, who only care about their own pockets.

Why do you Hooligans insist on not giving the WORKING MAN CREDIT. There are NO welfare recipients collecting unemployment benefits.

Stop lying on people. Your tea baggers in Congress are screwing the LOYAL AMERICAN WORKERS.

I agree, thank you. I have not been able to find a job here in Las Vegas in 18 months!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Now they have stopped my benefits - I am at a loss!!!!!! Vote for these people to express your views and they do the bloody opposite..............am at a loss.................

We the people have to take responsibility for the conditions of government. We have elected and re-elected public officials not by their ability and credentials but by their party affiliation, their stage presents, their ethnicity, and who knows what else. We deserve the monster we have created. We don't have to look any further than the closest mirror to find the enemy for it is us. The only way out of this mess is to agree to become knowledgeable about all election candidates and vote for the ones that actually have the experience and ability as well as integrity to do the job. In other words, the best qualified. It is really self destructive to vote for a poorly qualified candidate of one particular party over a much better qualified candidate of another party based only on party affiliation. If we want to change government we have to change our voting habits, otherwise it will continue to be business as usual.

Scrambolo- give you an idea of current things- first am sorry for you you are in a Gulf State- as I wait for my ship to come in- have applied for a volunteer job in Gulf states, just to do right thong- they will not take me, I am from Connecticut- I am looking to volunteer, going nowhere fast

Yup. You'd think this "intelligent" group of people could vote on the unemployment $ separately for the good of their constituents. Nope. Gotta load up with a jobs creation bill, taxes, etc. Well, guess what - losing jobs, no unemployment $$ - how are people going to spend money to keep the jobs we have now going?

Just remember 9.3 out of 10 still have jobs so thats less than 1 out of 10 not working and obama said he has 3 million jobs coming so i wouldnt worry to much about it just trust your president you voted for him live with it.

"how are people going to spend money to keep the jobs we have now going?"

People who didn't prepare or live within their means will lose their prized possessions resulting in them being sold to others who buy them for money and by increasing the supply lowers the cost for everyone else thereby saving them money that they can spend on other things. It's called returning to affordability and we need it far more than we need to keep bailing people out. Not to mention the upcoming tax increases may be slightly less bad... again giving people who earn their money more of it to spend. That is how money will be spent. Handouts only keep the prices and taxes high resulting in less disposable income for all.

PRESIDENT OF THE USA-------- Trying to follow your math, there sunshine.

Hang on, just a second , let me see, 7.3 carry the 1, subtract the zero, multiply, by 1.

Something wrong sweetness, your numbers say 7.3, the Department of labor says 9.7

Aw never mind, I'm sure you're right, most of the time I don't believe the Dept of Labor, either.

Just put them on welfare, this way the democratic party can control this country forever.

Well, maybe this will make us ALL feel better, huh?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/18/AR2010061805630.html

Thats right, Buy enemy tools, keep our Manufacturing base low, keep military support personnel in the USA un-employed, but, employ Ivan!!!!!

Isn't bHUSSEINobamagod wunnerful??????

Isn't comgress wunnerful? (not MIS-SPELLED )

Aren't you happy you don't have to worry about getting up to go to work, because Ivan and Asain nations are doing it for you?

Isn't it great that bHUSSEINobamagod want's to STARVE AMERICANS TO DEATH?

Throw the Bums OUT!

liberals be gone

YA for all you liberals you can live much cheaper in mexico and i think if we vote on it it will pass. One way tickets to mexico all you have to do is give us your passports.

#11...T.J. wrote it

However some of it came from John Locke. The truths had to do with King George. It only worked that one time because of this reason.

The United States consisted of 13 colonies, not 50 states as it is to today.

Try to abolish this government today and see how fast the National Guards get the shoot to kill orders, faster than you can say KENT STATE!

Revolution is passe and will never work in the 21st century. Must find a different way!

The elections and the amendments to the Constitution is the altering of the Government today!

Create enough havoc for the President to declare Marshall Law, that suspends the Constitution then you can have a new Government, because Congress will be dissolved.

Wilberta Berry, Just as in the first American Revolution, there are far more of "us" than "them". Many colonists thought the mighty British Empire would never be defeated. A few thousand brave American souls led the revolution and proved them wrong . I think you are mistaken. Your type of thinking led to the fall of Rome and many other powerful nations thru out history. A great nation will lead her people (all of them) with grace, fairness and justice or the people WILL forcefully take back what is their's. "Let them eat cake" brought on the French revolution and changed history. We are rapidly approaching that precipice today. We must reverse this upside down avalanche of America's bounty to the top 5% or history will be repeated here very soon.

A tea-bag candidate in Utah (forgot his name) said in an interview that we should cap the amount that BP is required to pay for the spill and let the taxpayers "pick up the rest" of the tab. There aren't going to be any taxpayers if the right doesn't get its fat behind off of the bills they're sitting on and stalling.

You are blaming the wrong party again. How hard is it to understand that the DEMs control Congress and the White House. They can pass anything they want to.

BTW - TEA Party = conservatives

teabagger = liberal (by definition)

Here we go again - read the article. The R-e-p-u-b-l-i-c-a-n-s are deliberately stalling this bill.

Here we go again.

You don't have to read the article to know that the Dems control Congress. But you do have to know how to read and comprehend.

Do you understand the definition of majority? The Republicans do not have to vote for something just because YOU, or anyone else, wishes they would.

not our responsibiltity to pay your bills!!! conservatives and level, rational thought are needed. where do you habitually unemployed think the extended benefits are coming from!!?? there is no money to afford your support. It is not republicans fault, it is the liberals who got you comfortable with numerous entitlement extensions. you waited too long to get a job and now try to get hired. what, you want me to hire you and you've been sitting on your ass for over a yr.? see ya, next!

Do you understand the concept of "republican filibuster" Larry? Stop trying to defend the indefensible. You're embarrassing yourself.

At least some of the Democrats are backing the Republicans on this, every1. The article even stated that the Democrats do not have the votes to override a threatened Republican filibuster. The filibuster hasn't actually happened yet. Perhaps you need lessons in reading comprehension.

By the way, if they had come up with a way to pay for the bill and if it weren't laden with pork, it would have stood a better chance pf passing. Granted, 'if' is a little word, but it has a big meaning. Also, why can't they hit the remainder of the stimulus for the funding. Less than half of that has been used. O, that's right, Obama's waiting to release those funds until later this summer so that he can try to save some democrats in Congress by increasing spending in certain districts.

Tammy - Did you read the article? The Republicans have killed the jobs bill. NOT the Democrats. You need to work on your reading comprehension skills.

I swear, if some of you tea-bag types are the lucky few with good jobs, I have no idea how you manage to hang onto them. Most of you are ignorant, illiterate, and just plain pig-brain stupid!

If you have internet/cell phone/cable/etc and you are on unemployment, then I'm paying for those luxuries. If you don't have any of that stuff and can't afford food or housing I'll be 1000% willing to help you out. Unti then, keep your hands out of my pockets.

Some people ought to read the stories on this more in depth. Not just the short one paragraph on MSNBC. The Republicans objections are not with the unemployment extension. It is all the other stuff the Dems tacked onto it. The big payoffs to SEIU to make sure no government union workers get laid off. The new pork barrell jobs programs to pay off their political buddies. The $30 billion in additional deficit spending this adds to the national debt. They could take the money from last years' stimulus which only 50% of the $787 billion has been spent and has created very few jobs. They would rather spend the money on university surveys and 100 more windmills than use it for the unemployed. You know those "shovel ready" jobs that never seem to appear

TO EVERY1has1 yes i do have a job and a high paying one at that the question is why dont you your either lazy or as dumb as a pig which is it. 2010/2012 go palin he he he heor should i say BECK LMAO

Tammy - Did you read the article? The Republicans have killed the jobs bill. NOT the Democrats. You need to work on your reading comprehension skills.

Now THAT is an impressive post. Again, thank GOD someone killed it before we are ALL unemployed.

The Congress has continuously extended the benefit period from 26 weeks to 99 weeks!! Republicans did not cut off benefits - They plugged one rathole that the Dems were pouring money into.

Keith - "I have run out of benefits this week.i have been working a part time job which reduced my unemployment which is ok and extends the time before they expire. I think I will be ok but you can bet your ass I will never vote for a republican ever again"

He has no job, but claims he wants one.....yet his complaint is about his benefits running out not about still not having a job. How about that $1 trillion dollars that your grandkids spent to "save or create" those 3.5 million jobs? Why aren't you mad that you didn't get one of those? because then you couldn't stay on your lazy "funemployment" paid vacation? Repubs stopped my handout waa, waa, waa.

Keith

I am sorry you are out of work but wake up this continual spending by this administration has to stop sooner or later the piper has to be paid. Perhaps you need to look at it as the republicans stopping a run away train yes its hard but someone has to make hard decisions and the democrats and especially their leader arent doing it

every1has1~

As my son, the economist would say.............."It's the spending, stupid!"

I thought that I'd find outrage that so many Americans will be denied unemployment insurance. Instead I've seen posts blaming the Democrats in Congress or the Democratic Governors, etc. These people will not be able to put food on the table! Politics have no place in this tragedy. To hear people who cannot find jobs being called lazy, leeches, drug addicts and unmotivated is unbelieveable. To actually read that some people think it's their own fault they are unemployed. We were headed for a depression. If that had happened, I wonder how those fortunate to have a job now would have felt if their only lifeline had be severed? I am a Christian, but I find it very, very, very hard not to pray that all those who have no sense of emphathy for the suffering of those individuals on unemployment benefits face the exact same predicament themselves, and SOON! I hope and pray that their jobs lay them off, their business fail...let them walk in those people shoes and see exactly how it feels. Karma is a b----! May the b--- rear her head and bite them in their pathetic a--!

I agree oldlady -- and it will get them in the end.

If May's housing numbers are any indication we're heading down a path of destruction.

People just refuse to believe that the economic policies of Regan and Bush just don't work. And Milton Friedman admitted late in life that maybe he was wrong a few of his theories.

Doctor Larry, keep repeating that mantra over and over again until YOU believe it. Our government provides many ways for the minority party to obstruct or negate most proposals. I assume you are proud of the actions of the republican party in this matter. You can't have it both ways. Accept responsibility for their actions instead of using misleading spin to shirk that responsibility and blame the opposing party. Constantly repeating your ridiculous spin and implying that others cannot read, understand or comprehend this article says a lot about your own intelligence.

Keith, you should have saved more for the raining days. Too bad you didn't. Whose to blame for that? Bush? People like you should go get in line for welfare checks and live in project housing, it's free.

WOW...me thinks mybestfriend has NO heart at all! Cold!

If your "great great great grandfather and his son fought the British from 1776-1783 and 1811-1813" they would desert you.

They fought against the very idea behind this bill and government tyranny.

demitrix. Shame on you and all the right wing nuts. We are talking about people. People who have no jobs and no income. Someone said earlier on this blog, saddling their grand children with debt. If I am not mistaken, we are all saddled with debt, when we reach employment age. Holding up benefits to individuals without jobs is taramount to saying let them stave. Some of the comments made by these Republican Senator defile logic. Listen to some of the comments: Lets have everyone applying for unemployment benefits take a drug test; don't give benefits because like an animal if you feed them they will continue to come back for more; the unemployed are lazy; move to another state to find a job; they don't want to work. What kind of idiots have we representing us. I have not heard of one Senator agreeing to give up their salaries to reduce the deficit, and most of them are millionaries.

I have absolutely no problem extending job benefits, which only makes up $8.7-10 billion of this bill.

I do have a problem with the additional spending attached to this bill. Such as the Medicare Fix, which was not tallied into the HCR bill to purposely deceive people into thinking it would cost less.

I also have an issue with the Fed Government earmarking $3 billion to California and New York, when their own citizens refuse to accept responsibility for their own petard.

This bill is actually called the Tax Extender Bill, not the jobless benefits bill as the media portrays.

Over 60% of the money in this goes to other projects not unemployment benefits.

I agree, Larry, there is absolutely no excuse for the US taxpayer to be forced to fund the State Terrorism Israel uses to enforce its Apartheid policies. There is absolutely no reason to continue paying off Egypt and Jordan for tolerating the Zionist menace at their doorsteps. Those 3 States get half of our entire foreign "aid" budget every year, and for what? Certainly no benefit to us. There is also absolutely no excuse for funding religious schisms in Iraq. Let them kill each other over their stupid Bronze Age myths. It is none of our business. There is absolutely no reason to fund the opium warlords of Afghanistan either.

We should stop fighting the Zionists' proxy wars immediately and bring our troops home. President Eisenhower warned us to avoid getting entangled in land wars in Asia. We have ICBMs and nukes to deal with that. Keep the troops at home doing their Constitutionally mandated job of defending our borders from alien invaders.

However, the socialist States begging for federal funds dug their own holes, and need to claw their own way out of the messes they created. California spent itself into bankruptcy all by itself without any help from any other State. Those of us who live in States that were more prudent with the taxpayer's money shouldn't have to bail out California. Let their taxpayers bear the burden of the mistakes made by the officials they elected. The same goes for the other blue states whose socialist policies have landed them in a deep hole. The federal government has no mandate to rob the prudent to pay off the debts of the profligate.

Karen- good for you, need someone to speak bluntly
As mist teenager have folks, and a home, can get college loans- it is the adults who need jobs, as mean as I might sound

That's true, why help teenagers get a job these days.. There's so many of them to choose from. Naahh, they can go in debt instead.

You guys/gals are just so brilliant..

Those aren't just any teenagers but disadvantaged teenagers. My local paper tells me so. My liberal rag tells me how important during these economic times that businesses that belong to "special" organizations that hire "disadvantaged" teens will have their salaries paid by our great state's federal stimulus money. Of course, they then suspect these same teens will help contribute to household expenses.

The only thing sadly funny here is that all these white kids on here never read the bills or do not comprehend when the words "minority, multicultural, disadvantaged communities" mean when it comes to the jobs/money of the future. Sometimes learning the govt has no interest in you beyond what you can do for them in the form of votes is a hard lesson learned.

Karen: The purpose of establishing summer youth jobs basically lies in the premise that "idle hands are the workshop of the devil." It hopefully places these kids in working environments in offices, parks, agricultural industries (not private farms), and other prospective work positions throughout the labor spectrum. I administered the program locally for about 18 years and will attest that, though there were inconsistensies, the enrollees had some work experience, received pay for it, and had money to buy school clothes, books, some fun stuff, etc. These young people were documented as being from disadvantaged families living in poverty. There's where some of the incosistensies fell--the their parents took charge of the children's paychecks when the young worker arrived home.

why would they be afraid? Why be afraid of the very people that depend on you?

They're probably thinking they can rely on "2nd amendment remedies" a la Sharron Angle, Michele Bachmann, and Sarah Palin, to protect themselves from that, but then they don't live in the real world anyway.

How do YOU expect the ones of us that WORK and pay the vast majority of the taxes to continue propping up this Ponzi scheme? We are the ones in the "real world". We are not the moochers.

What do I expect the unemployed to do? Most of them need to get off their @ss and take whatever job they can find rather than waiting for the perfect one. If you've never had to work a job that you were overqualified for, you should try it.

Do you understand simple math, Doctor Larry? Ok then here's a little word problem for you: If there are 500 people applying for 25 jobs, how many people did not get the jobs? If those people who did not get the jobs go back out and try again the next day for 25 other jobs and get those jobs, how many people are still unemployed? If the first 25 people who got the jobs (out of the 500) get laid off on the 3rd day because of company bankruptcy, now how many people are unemployed?

Now imagine that number of unemployed people multiplied by at least 1 million coming after you because they're hungry and they can't stand your smug-ass attitude anyway. How many people are you up against?

Multiply that number by another 1 million, at least.

What's the answer?

Get it Doctor Larry?

Considering I have been there, done that - I get it more than most. I also am hiring more people than we can use right now and we will go out and get more work for them. Are you?

YOUR numbers are ridiculous and you know it.

You didn't answer the word problem, Larry. You just beat your chest with your dragging knuckles and bragged on yourself. Can you think outside of yourself for a minute? Now, what's the answer to the word problem, Larry?

My question is even more simple! Doctor of what?

Doctor of "facts" - he doctors them to fit his brilliant "points"

Get it Doctor Larry?

Kool, another brilliant post. I just wish I was as intelligent. NOT.

No - you're NOT - sorry :(

Keep it up every1has1, we are beginning to understand why you can't find a job and continue to be unemployed.

we are beginning to understand why you can't find a job and continue to be unemployed'

It was pretty obvious just from his word problem... the answer to which would be 475,000,000,000,000 people or roughly 73,077 times the world population. When the math skills are that bad, it's hard to find gainful employment even in the best of times.

Just read an article about changes to SS coming in the future. It said that people were retiring earlier, living longer, and fewer people were replacing them in the workforce. What ? Hello ! The US population has exploded to over 300 million in just the last few years. What the hell are all those people doing if they are not working and paying taxes ? Says something about the fools running this country. They (our illustrious leaders) all need to be unemployed with no benefits, no pensions, and no prospects of finding replacement employment because they've been asleep at the wheel for the past half century while lining their pockets at our expense. Now that the cookie has crumbled, they are taking care of themselves first, as usual.

The Democrats don't know how to. All they know how to do is kowtow to foreign dictators, alienate friendly countries, bribe to garner votes for bills that should not pass, and drive the economy further into the ground with over-taxing the average American taxpayer.

All the GOPiggies know how to do is apologize to big oil because the Dems are trying to hold them accountable. Well, that is something the GOPiggies NEVER understand, ACCOUNTABILITY!!!! They wage wars based on lies with no means to pay for them, bail out fat cats on WallStreet, while trying to block all oversight into the spending (just look at the original BUSH TARP bill). Bush/Cheney and GOPiggies while in power grew the government more than any other administration and forced our country DEEP into debt with their wars! Plus they took month long vacations before 9-11 and ignored the warnings, and another month long vacation before Katrina. Look at the conference Bush was involved in, he wasn't even paying attention!!!! How idiots can continue to vote for the GOPiggies is beyond me!!

Dems, decouple your political agenda items from the actual jobless benefit extension legislation!!!! It will then be passed! Quit politicizing this!!!!

Definitely. Please bring this to the floor. The Democrats who have proposed this can explain why only 30% of this is actually for Unemployment Benefits. They can then explain the additional programs attached to this that they are refusing to explain.

Or how 2 states will receive $3 billion to pay their own debts that they created and refuse to address.

God damn you democrats are thick - This bill would pass if it wasnt laden with PORK, why cant a democrat put together a bill that just deals with ONE problem, why does every bill have to contend with several different items, its a way of sneaking things through and also a way to badmouth republicans.

lose the pork the bill would pass!!!!!!

PORK??? In the worst recession since 1929??? Aiding states in current situations is HARDLY pork!

Can you define the words "Republican fillibuster" Larry?

Can you define "majority". Grow up - the Dems can pass something if they want. And the Republicans do not have to bow to you or Reid.

The upcoming elections will clear this up.

I don't think you've done your homework, Larry. Your mom should turn off Faux Noise sometime. Now go look up "republican filibuster" and come back and give the correct definition to the class.

dR lArry: Did you even read the article? Did you take a civics course in your school? Do you even know what a filibuster is? What gives you the right to tell other posters on here to "Shut Up"? Perhaps if you would read the article and comment on it in the factual light of truth you would be better accepted and more understandable!

It would make sense that when the unemployement stops for a number of people that the unemployement rate would drop, while these people are no longer counted as unemployeed they are still not working! But look at it from the perspective of most of the Neo Cons who post to these forums, only Democrats are unemployed, because Republicans are too important to not have a job! Have a great day lArry! May God bless you and keep you from becoming unemployed and instantly becoming a Democrat!!

I don't think you've done your homework, Larry. Your mom should turn off Faux Noise sometime. Now go look up "republican filibuster" and come back and give the correct definition to the class.

One more! I think I need to buy Larry a drink. Brilliant wiiit.

Thank you Wayne.

Now do you have anything pertaining to the article to add to the discussion?

The Senate needs 60 votes to pass a bill. The House passes a bill with a simple majority, but the Senate need 3/4 of the vote to pass a bill. The Dems no longer have the "Super Majority" since Massachussetts elected a Republican (Brown) to fill Ted Kennedy's seat.

Thank you, Young Utah. I was wondering when someone was going to remind all these posters that the Democrats really don't control Congress, without the seat held by the late Sen. Ted Kennedy. Apparently, people are so quick to point the finger at the other point of view that they "forget" or overlook the facts, just as many posting did not read the entire article before commenting.

Hey larry, remember when the republicans set a record for filibusters in 2007-2009 congress? well, in the current sesssion, republicans BROKE THAT RECORD! Republicans have brought gridlock to the government for 4 years! They're being nice now cuz they dont wanna enter the elections with the "party of no" label fresh in anyone's mind. That is becuz they KNOW that losing a 3rd straight election means they are done as a national party and revolution will come to the GOP! 130 filibusters over 4 years is not "majority rules"! it's OBSTRUCTION of the will of the people!

my thoughts exactly, but out of nowhere comes the remedial, "I put out 3,000 resumes and couldn't get hired." If that is true or if you needed more than 6 months to land any job, you are a loser.

And you've shown what you are.

Irate Ken- you are a smart person.
Husky- guess I am a loser, but that hurts more than my situation

all sounds pretty simple to me

1) pull out of the wars, save millions
2)boot out all illegals and anchor babies, save millions and free up millions of jobs so again save millions paying welfare.
3) Make all people on welfare/unemployment do community service, this will stop the ones who are sitting on welfare because they want to, they will prob decide if they have to work they might as well get a real job or if they dont at least grafitti is getting cleared up and litter is picked up etc
4) Stop allowing pregnancy on welfare, if you have children and then need welfare thats acceptable, if you are on welfare and get pregnant you lose your welfare.

just a few small changes and i have opened up millions of jobs and saved us millions of dollars

hometowngirl...... you have NO CLUE as to what it's going to take to bring the US out of its financial problems ( the deficits and debt included) Remember, all the research indicates that about 85% of the current nation debt was rung up under just the last 3 GOP presidents

http://www.lafn.org/politics/gvdc/Natl_Debt_Chart.html

And this is WHY they did it!!

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10054/1037783-109.stm

It took clinton 5 years to eliminate deficit spending,fought tooth and nail by Newt and his cabal. To get out of THIS mess will require a rather SEVERE austerity program!! It will need SUBSTANTIAL cuts in spending, especially in the defense department where waste,fraud and sill but expensive programs rule the day! Second, it will take a SUBSTANTIAL raise in taxes, particularly on those most able to pay! This is what is done in ANY house hold!!!!! Whiole the numbers are different, the solution is the same!

PS..... Republicans are finally coming clean: they want to eliminate SS ( and medicare and medicaid)

Actually, their raises are now automatic - they got tired of having to vote on them each time.

Doctor Larry

do you give the same bad advice to your patients? are any of them still alive?

johnfuci

the congress denied itself the scheduled pay raise for 2010 and on May 14th Obama signed a bill sent to him by Congress to nix the pay raise scheduled for 2011.

if you need other information - take two aspirins and call someone else besides Doctor Larry!

yep, jobsnd.com for hundreds of job in ND
i know from speaking with a friend in AL, wants to be a mechanic,says he cant find any mechanic jobs i did an online job search and found 30 in his immediate area, 85 in the state, 2000 in the country, then he says he needs $40 to take the test to get a qualification, can he borrow it = nope, can you get another job to earn the money = well walmart is hiring but i dont want to lower myself - well stay in your parents basement then, geez this is the mentality, articles on msnbc have quoted people saying 'i cant find anything in my field', i cant find anything for the same salary', 'i cant find anything in my area', well instead of being lazy be prepared to do something other than your preferred job, maybe take a pay cut and maybe move.