"...principles and values and, most importantly, of God"
Yes Lincoln was a republican that wouldn't recognize the republican party today. Like Jefferson and Madison, they advocated specifically for the SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. Without ANY question what-so-ever.
Clearly, Glenn's attempt to rewrite history will only succeed in the weak minded.
If you believe that Beck represents anything other than the corporate greed that sent this great country into it's current downward spiral, you deserve everything the "Tea Party" will bring to you. Where is the backing from his own church? The Mormans have all but completely disavowed everything this moron espouses or stands for. Wake up people! Beck, and more importantly, Fox News, are not real! Phony stances, made-up stories and out-right lies that are intended to do one thing, MAKE RUPERT MONEY!!! Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Know what that is? It's the last sound you will hear as the cliff looms!! Dopes!
Me thinks you should study up on the founders and their ideas concerning God and Country and government. Try reading their own words rather than someone's interpretations of their words. You will also find the true context of the so called separation of church & state - I also suggest reading just the 1st Amendment to the Constitution = Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; Note, nothing about Freedom of or from Religion, no words about spearation of church and state...
Point of fact, the founders had sermons before the whole body of Congress, in the Capitol building.
Try reading the Constitution of your own State - all 50 State constitutions reference in some way God in the preambles or the first few paragraphs as the giver of our rights and liberty. 9 of the original 13 states had official state religions. If there was to have been as you say "separation" I would think that those who created our Republic might have said when these states applied to join the Union - "wait you can't mention God, can't have official religions, ets" if they had intended such an interpretation. Tennessee became a State when George Washington was still president - state constitution prohibits atheists from holding public office.
I think you are the one attempting to rewrite history as the facts in no way shape of form support you contentions
I've read their words. Franklin dropped out of college because he was not religious and did not want to study religion. Jefferson removed every reference of Jesus' divinity from the bible (they call it the Jefferson bible). They were deists, not Christians. Much as they witnessed the tyranny of the British government, they also saw the inquisition wrapping up and dealt with superstitious people who did things like acuse each other of being witches and start hanging and burning folks. No, Still Black, many of the founding fathers were not Christian and some even bordered on hostile towards it. Their own words (not someone's interpretation) back this up. Do a google search on Madison or Jefferson or Payne and Religion and see what you get back.
This is your interpretation and influence from religious teachings. You don't have to look deep. We're talking about 'the founders' that left religious persecution from England.
Try RE-READING their own words, or perhaps JEFFERSON'S BIBLE to clue in. Jefferson, like Madison had always been concerned about church influences on learning and the warping you're clearly displaying.
This person does not speak for me. His party does not speak for me. He is a hate monger who spews forth verbal crap, supported by the corporate money bags who really run this country.
Glenn Beck uses the phrase "wake up, America." I noticed this identical phrase has often beem used by the Klan--for year--as code words for "White America". But, could this just be another mere coincidence on poor, innocent Glenn's part? Is he just a misunderstood misfit? Gee, I really don't think so, anymore. This freak seems to be actually pushing for racial violence. And, it's really about time that the Feds stepped in, and shut his sick operation down, before he incites actual racial violence.
I love this articals sources of retort to this rally, Al Sharpton and a conservative bloggers comment.......
And a conservative blog about the event, which suggested some areas of Washington were unsafe and said the city was populated by refugees, led to accusations of racism .
I would have absolutely LOVED to see what Bill Hicks or George Carlin would have said about Glenn Beck today. But I assume it wouldn't be much different from what has been said before: this is the same ol' song and dance, over and over again. The "moral majority's" disgruntled left-overs. If you're not with us, you're against us. Apparently Glenn thinks he's Jerry Falwell now too, with his message of restoring God and faith, and morals and principles to our great country. Note to Beck: those morals and values, and/or faith in God never left the country, its just that we don't subscribe to the distorted messages of unity that you and your ilk cling to.
This freak seems to be actually pushing for racial violence.
That's odd, because he has consistently spoken against violence. Odd too is the fact that Alveda King, MLKJ's niece, will be speaking at the event and has appeared several times on Glenn's show. Could it be that you simply missed that part from watching Maddow, Olberman, and reading Think Progress?
Agreed, wish I could be there. He is doing a great thing. Really sad what others are saying. Unfortunately it is all out of fear and ignorance. The louder the screaming of racist remarks makes me feel so sorry for someone to be so miserable. I am certain the turn out would be even bigger if people had the time and finances to get there. Guess what I fear most for Nov is voter fraud and the gov finding a way to not count all of the votes. We know how the majority feels there is just no denying it.
Its "In God We Trust" - NOT In Jesus We Trust. Every religion has a GOD. This country was founded on freedom from religious persecution. The pilgrims were fleeing religious persecution.
When I read hateful things like what thedefender just spewed, it scares the heck out of me. That kind of intolerance smacks of the kind of insanity that swept through Germany during thier financial crises during WWI-WWII. The words Nazi and Hitler are too charged and overshadow the political situation in Germany that led to that horrible regime. We need to understand the political underpinnings that led to what we universally can agree was the embodiment of an entire society turned murderous and insane.
Sorry tea partiers, but your rhetoric is much more in line with the fledgeling National Socialist German Workers' Party than it is towards any other kind of thought, religious or political.
If this movement manages to gain any kind of control within governance we will be in serious danger of repeating dark moments in human history. One of the primary planks of the National Socialist German Workers' Party was restoring a German culture they felt was being corrupted by "godless elements"; to restore honor to Germany, after a crushing defeat in WWI and resulting economic crisis. The common man of Germany turned on not just Jews, but every other group of people they perceived as foreign to Germany. Catholics and Gypsies amongst others also were rounded up by the German Government.
One thing is definite. History repeats itself. The Tea Party is attracting the very same personality type that flocked to the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
What started as the Workers Party in Germany eventually grew to be known as the National Socialist German Workers Party, or NAZI Party for short. How much longer before the Tea Partiers decide to become more formal and call themselves the National Republican Tea Party? When Adolph Hitler first attended a Workers Party meeting, he was worried that it would be some communist liberal leftist group because of the word socialist, but was "pleasantly" surprised to find that the group, that met in a beer hall, were blue-collar racist men who blamed thier financial woes on the downfall of German culture due to Godless and usurious foreigners in thier midst - the Jews. Hitler took that group of economically challenged disgruntled men and whipped them up into a murderous frenzy of organized brutality and intolerance.
Let us acknowledge frequently and loudly the fact that this Tea PARTY is marked by a sea of intolerant white anglo-saxon faces. You would be hard pressed to find a Jewish person, or many people of color in these crowds. That is not a coincidence. Religious intolerance and racism is a significant part of this group.
Its unfortunate too, because we do indeed have a problem in our government. But its not the one that this group is organizing against. We need a truly democratic (meaning of the people - not just the judeo christian ones) movement to protest what is hurting this country. The Fed, corporate cronyism, deregulation, tariff issues. What is harming this country has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with Power, corruption, and money.
JJ The Kennedy Center event was one of the most powerfull things I have ever seen. I have been around a while to. As usual, the article totally misrepresents what the event actually was. Everyone had tears in their eyes.
I have been up since 5:00am and watched bus after bus, and throngs of people coming to the mall. Non-stop. They were coming when we got out of the Kennedy Center. The desk clerk said there wasn't a room for miles around, even deep into Va.
This is truly something, something wonderful is happening, you can feel see and hear it everywhere.
May not be here physically, but we all know someone who could not come, but trust us, you are here with us.
And Sharpton said Friday that goes against the message in King's speech, in which the civil rights leader appealed to the federal government to ensure equality.
"His speech says clearly that he wanted to see a nation where the federal government protects us from those and states that would not uphold our civil rights," Sharpton said.
Thanks Al for being anti-American. The AZ law is to protect American citizens civil rights. The US govt. is the one who is not upholding US citizens civil rights.
Glenn doesn't rock - he has rocks in his head! Beck claims he is reclaiming rights - ask yourself which rights you have lost. None right? He has no basis for his claims. And the anti-tax issue is ridiculous - we have the lowest taxes we've had in decades. If you lower taxes any futher we will run out of money for roads, bridges, police, firemen, etc. How are we supposed to pay for those?
Wake up America! Beck is using you to get what he wants, mainly attention and money.
Baggers, Birthers, Buffoons, Lesbian Bondage Freaks, Toe Tapping Men's Room Commandos and Illiterate Drama Queens make the Greed Over Patriotism economic terrorists the minority party they are today.
They are like the Wasilla Hillbilly's.......normal Americas are sick of them but you can't get them to shut up. God bless their pointy little heads, I wish they had something shiny to play with.
To all you anti-Beck haters out there in a America, you are so quick to judge him and insult him. Yet I don't see you people or MSNBC trying to do something positive to help this country. All Glenn Beck wants to do is bring hope and honor for the country he loves. The main reason is because of the way this government of ours has lost its way and how they are destroying it. But I have to say this for MNSBC they must be really jealous of Beck to give him all this publicity by talking so much about him. MSNBC cannot control themselves and for this network to keep trying to knock him or bring him down, I guess Beck hit a nerve. So maybe some truth from Glenn Beck is whats really happening to this country otherwise MSNBC or the liberal media wouldn't be acting like idiots.
No I am not a tea bagger or a Republican , I am a proud Conservative Independent thank You before you ignorant people are quick to judge me.
My God people oops, sorry, separation of church and state means the government cannot impose an official religion. That's it! Read the Federalist Papers and you'll understand what the framers meant.
You people are so funny. Seriously, you stand behind god and preach values, then spew hate towards other religions. Yeah, god would have taught that, right? (Please note sarcasm).
Now Glenn Beck, let me guess, god forgave him for his sins while he was a drug addict, he has a recorded history of mental illness, and he is your hero? Oh wait, did god cure him? He is favored by god, while all the starving and sick children in the world are let to die?
Let's not forget the "Beauty Queen", who still writes notes on her hands as reminders (Yeah, I did that in grade school too). Oh yeah, I'm impressed. Let's not forget how much of a quitter she is, quit mid term as a governer because things weren't going her way. Yeah, that's what I look for in a leader! (Yeah, more sarcasm)
I'll agree that nobody is perfect, but following these two shows lack of good judgement. I'm not saying the right or left is better than one or the other, I'm just surprised how many people actually fall for this garbage from these two lunatics.
Please !!! I am a 20+ year retired Army veteran, do not include me in your ( Beck ) rendering unto me any of your honors. ( I already know what founding principles of integrity, truth and honor are ) You stand for nothing that I believe in and you are way more dangerous to me and the Nation then even Obama could ever hope to be. I believe in God, but my friend (Beck) you really seem to come across like you are God sent, the new savior. You are so hateful in everything you say and do and act.
You sure do not represent the America I believe in and served for and bled for.
IN GOD WE TRUST, was added to our paper money in 1957! . . . and BTW it does sound a little bit like the "GOTT MIT UNS" or "GOD WITH US" that the nazis used to wear on their buckles.
Only ISLAM. Just the religions that want to kill us all, I mean everyone of us who are not Muslims. God doesn't expect Christians, Jews to kneel down and let the Muslims cut our heads off... He expects us to FIGHT and defend ourselves, read the Quran and you'll see what the goal of Islam is, its to conquer the world, there is nothing else they want more, to dominate the world with Shariah law! And God will help us defend ourselves from them...
Get your facts straight buddy. Glen Beck is a honorable Christian who loves God and this country. People like you are the reason he feels he needs to make this speech. People like you have no honor, integrity or respect for this country or God, this country was founded on the principles of God and is solely responsible for its great success whether you like it or not.
Pull a quarter out of your pocket and read "Out loud" what is written to left of George Washington's head. "In God We Trust!" Thats what it says, its on all our money, has been for over 200 years, its written on all of our government buildings, its on the wall behind the judge in state and federal courts. Our nation was founded on Christian beliefs and principles and this country is turning away from God, the same God who has had his hand over us, protecting us for 250 years!
He says in the bible. "Any person or country, who turns away from me, I will give them a depraved mind" Thats exactly whats happening to this country now. A depraved mind means a mind that cant make rational decisions, everything is backwards. A person with a depraved mind cant even take care of their own basic daily needs of survival.. Get it? The further away this country as a whole turns away from God, the worse this country will get.
Sweet mother of God - Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, the Tea Party, the GOP and all the peopl who ACTUALLY believe this demagoguery have lost their F*#$@@% minds!!!
They have:
1. No clue about American history
2. No clue what the Constitution says
3. No clue that they are exactly the same as the taliban, only Christian
4. Forgotten what it means to be an American if they think everybody must conform to their values and belief systems.
Yeah, they have a right to their opinion and their rallies - I just can't believe that supposedly educated and intelligent people ACTUALLY believe this crap.
td3k wrote: Yeah, they have a right to their opinion and their rallies - I just can't believe that supposedly educated and intelligent people ACTUALLY believe this crap.
You have identified yourself very well. You clearly lack both intelligence and education.
I just don't understand how they put religious and gun in the same sentence.I also don't think God was no where around when this nation was founded.Ever commandment in the bible was violated and all the crimes that was committed against the native people was not supported by some white God. American people trying to clean up with a dirty rag. America is dirty rag in how it has stoled land here in America even the island of Hawaii. We have even taken countries. We have also used races of people to satisfy our greed we used the chinese to build our railroads, we then pass the chinese removal act to rid them. We used slaves to farm our land and we would have sent them back, if it had not been for the civil war, and just recently they used the illegal immigrants to build the houses and malls and now we are trying to send them back. Just take a look at history we have the robber barrens of the 1900's in the north and the south, such as Pullman car company, Andrew Carnegie,Cornelius Vanderbilt, J.P. Morgan, Jay Gould, and John Rockefeller are the wealthy few that controlled the American economy and became known as Robber Barons, a moniker which accused them of concentrating their wealth and power through manipulation and abuse of power. There is no difference today except the Robber Barons is world wide with different names, however they are still getting wealthy off the backs of the ones without.
WOW so beck thinks he's a messiah now!!! His limited radio fame has gone to his head and he's drunk with power. He's doing this for MONEY and POWER, it has nothing to do with country. This is the start of becks holy war against America and hopefully no one will die...today...
If this movement grows in power and strength they will become a domestic enemy. Then we got problems. I for one will not follow this kind of leadership. I will die before i give in to this Beck National Republican Fascist Party.
td3k- You are a complete moron to compare this crowd to the Taliban. I honestly don't see Beck poisoning little girls trying to get an education, executing women for showing their faces in public, stoning young couples to death for dating outside their clans, or beheading innocent Christians and Jews just for being in Afghanistan.
I've dealt with the Taliban, you obviously haven't.
I see so many hypocrites on these pages. You actively support a mosque near Ground Zero for the Muslims to practice their religion.....yet you get all pissy about a Christian speaking and rallying for America at a hallowed American location. Oh the hue and cry about FREEDOM TO PRACTICE ONES RELIGION...so it's just for Muslims?? Was not Dr. King a REVEREND? Didn't he invoke God in his speech at that location? Wasn't he praying for a better America and Americans? Some say Beck is being racist by using the same location as Dr. King. How about REV. Al Sharpton. How about REV. Jessie Jackson. Religion is okay for them prostelitize about...but not for anyone not a liberal?
What's so terrible about wanting to incite this country to clean up our acts, and rally in support of our troops...black, white, male, female, Muslim, Asian, Latino.... Yet, WHO does this generation worship and emulate??? Athletes, rock stars, Hollywood elite....so many of whom have none to little of a moral compass. WHO do people criticize? Christians, police officers, hard working and successful citizens, people who want to clean up America's values..... Something is VERY wrong with that picture. America is hardly recognizable anymore.
Beck reminds me of what Father Charles Coughlin did during the Great Depression. He riled anti-semitism, he held rallies, he did his best to scapegoat minorities for the struggles of the 1930's. He was what Glen Beck is. The difference is Glen Beck lives in an increasingly brown and black America. He can stand on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, but he can't maintain white domination of America. The demographics are against him. Just think how many of the old white folks in his crowd will die of old age before 2012. And one out of every two of those old white people will be replaced with a brown or black 18 year old.
So the question is, what will all those new 18-year-olds think of all this?
Glenn Beck uses the phrase "wake up, America." I noticed this identical phrase has often beem used by the Klan--for year--as code words for "White America". But, could this just be another mere coincidence on poor, innocent Glenn's part? Is he just a misunderstood misfit? Gee, I really don't think so, anymore. This freak seems to be actually pushing for racial violence. And, it's really about time that the Feds stepped in, and shut his sick operation down, before he incites actual racial violence.---------------------------
What everyone is missing, the right is fed up with government not doing it's job; the left is fed up with government not able to solve any problems, and the independents are fed up with both; Washington still does not get the message, our Government is out of touch with the American people, they just don't get it, YET!
America rocks and so do the brave men intoduced by Sarah Palin at the Honor America Rally in DC during Air Force week. Stop living in the past...Bush in over, Irag is over, Hilter in over, slavery is over...pick up and get with the program...it's about now and today!
I do not know where most of you have gotten your facts about the role of the church in the constitution framers minds. I did a term paper on it when I was in college and found that if you read the writings of John Adams and his son you will see that there was to never be a nationally sponsored religion, but it was intended for religion to work with the government to supply help for people that were in need. Social Security, welfare, foreign aid, and all the other programs that we have in place to make people dependent on the federal government was never the intent of the founding fathers.
I find it interesting if people do not agree with the liberal point of view then we are seen as ignorant, yet if you look at polling that has been done lately over 70% of Americans consider themselves conservative (in reality they are really moderites).
The hate towards Glen Beck is usually taken by the crowd that has taken stances like the federal government. I think both need to read laws before making comments or judgments, and also I would suggest that you watch and study what one believes before you make remarks about an individual.
We have a reformed alcoholic here. Almost every reformed alcoholic has attributed his recovery to a religeous awakening. Beck, in his own words, has pointed out that he has no care for politics. He has proudly pointed out his use of the media to make himself rich through his many separate business activities. He has discovered that he can get people to listen to his rhetoric and send him money, by the ton. He doesn't even believe his own rhetoric, but it sure is making him wealthy. Human personality is an interesting subject. If you invent a religeon and tie up most of the loose ends in your logic, you can get enough people to follow you that you can live in luxury for the rest of your life and have enough to pass on that lifestyle to your family after you die. If Beck wasn't a hipocrite, I might even follow him, but he has too many times drifted into moral extremes that give him away. He has always pulled back from the cliff by suddenly rejecting violence after he has whipped up a frenzy, and other like moves. He has a staff that analyzes the mood generated by each show and fine tunes the next show with that information. He is P.T.Barnum of the Boob Tube and all the fools are being separated from their money by a good show.
Agreed USA. I guess Nancy Pelosi was wrong about the tea party
being "astro turf". Real grass grows as has this movement. God bless Glenn Beck and God Bless America!
If you want to restore honor to America, stop following right wing haters like Palin and Beck. Both are in it for the money and power, and neither has a clue what it means to be a true Christian.
As we get closer to the November elections, isn't it interesting that more and more Americans believe that Obama is a closet Muslim? ...and it's folks like Glenn Beck that are propagating this nonsense....which is spread over hundreds and hundreds of websites and after a while it begins to seep in. Then the old adage about repeating a lie over and over and over proves its merit. This methodology of starting with a conclusion and fashioning the facts around totally partisan mud-slinging is what the conservatives have now been reduced to.....but unfortunately for Democrats, this kind of crap works, because most Americans refuse to even take the time to research facts and having a open mind to the outcome....so not only are Americans ignorant of the facts, but they are becoming increasingly WILLFULLY ignorant of the facts......conservatives are proud of this? From the health care debate (death panels) to the Iraqi conflict (Saddam was directly involved in 9/11), to this ridiculous Tea Party/Birthers movement.....the list goes on and on......conservatives seems to rely on willful ignorance and adamantly refuse to alter their opinions when facts are presented in a reasonable manner.....it just amazes me.
Further up the chain here, someone signing in as "Ben" made a comment about Beck worshipping Satan. I've seen nothing to support this, but he is a Mormon and my sister's pastor told the congregation that the Mormons worship the Devil. I'm not a Mormon and, while I can not accept their theology, I know they do not worship the Devil.
Maybe Beck thinks he is "the Prophet yet to come". Ask your Mormon friends who that is. If he is, I'll be looking for some other god to help us. Maybe in the Celtic pantheon.
While I'm at it, would all of you please stick to posting about the issue under discussion and not clutter up the board with insults and personal blasts. We are adults, aren't we? Flaming other people in the discussion is juvenile behavior. Would Jesus approve? Or Beck?
I never even watch the Glen Beck show, but I can tell whose side I'm on by reading the hateful comments by the leftist America-haters.
I love to watch the anti-American commies squirm. Just when they thought they had everyone brainwashed with their Marxist propaganda, some pesky conservative shows up and draws a HUGE crowd.
I'm not even religious, but it's inspiring to see so many supporting the fight against the neo-Marxist anti-American juggernaut that's pushing us toward the drain.
@Roosterboy -- here at the Lincoln Memorial and elsewhere, slogans from these groups of 'restore America' 'win/take back our country back' 'states' rights' etc., etc. are eerily similar to the diatribe of Wallace/Goldwater/Nixon years ago...scary how powerful fear can be
Pull a quarter out of your pocket and read "Out loud" what is written to left of George Washington's head. "In God We Trust!" Thats what it says, its on all our money, has been for over 200 years, its written on all of our government buildings, its on the wall behind the judge in state and federal courts. Our nation was founded on Christian beliefs and principles and this country is turning away from God, the same God who has had his hand over us, protecting us for 250 years!
Nice try, but "In God We Trust" was added to U.S. currency in 1864 - and that was because of the same kind of pseudo-religious "revolution" we're seeing with Glenn Beck. It wasn't required to be on coins until 1908, and it wasn't until 1956 that it was required to be on paper currency. It did not become the motto of the U.S. until 1957 - as a reaction to Communism. To quote the Congressional statement, "In these days when imperialistic and materialistic Communism seeks to attack and destroy freedom, it is proper to remind all of us of this self-evident truth that as long as this country trusts in God, it will prevail."
As for our country being founded on "Christian" principles - a little basic research will show you that most of the founding fathers were Deists, not Christians. If this was a Christian nation, there would be more references to Jesus. "God" could apply to the deity of ANY religion.
Long live Glenn Beck. He scares the hell out of liberals and plainly points out their malicious social agenda for all to see.
Glenn Beck doesn't scare us - he amuses us, same as Sarah Palin. And when are people like you going to stop lumping all liberals together? (Yes, I know people do that with conservatives too, and it's equally wrong.) You talk as though all liberals have exactly the same beliefs and feel exactly the same way on all issues. Ridiculous.
Sorry Sarah. You raised your son, and THEN he joined the military(because he got into trouble with the law?). You didn't "raise a combat vet". He became one after joining, completing boot camp, and serving in Iraq.
And to all the dumbsh*ts still complaining about the mosque/youth center being built 2 blocks away from the WTC site: There already is a mosque 4 blocks away, imbeciles. You didn't b*tch about that, did you?
I am a conservative independent, and personally I find the mentions here regarding the mosque sicken me. Has anyone ever heard of freedom of religion. I could understand the outrage if this was built on the ground of the twin towers, but it is two blocks away. Could we please stop this petty bickering and get to subjects that will effect us until next election.
Also, if someone does not believe or agree with this administration do not mean that they are racist, and you people that are throwing this around should be careful, because when true racism and bigotry raises up their ugly heads no one is going to notice because of your abuse of calling everyone racist.
Is Glen Beck or Sarah Palin racist, I do not know, I am not familiar enough with them to make such a statement, but if you think they are then don't you at least think it would be a good idea to find any actions or statements that are race hate related. Please do not end up like the government did over Arizona's Illegal Alien law and start making determinations without any information.
All I know is this; My grandparents came over here in the mid thirty's from Germany because there was true racism there and it was not a good place to live and raise a family if one was Jewish. My wife is from Asia, she came over here when she was two months old with her parents because Communist Vietnam tried to commit genocide against her race. This is racism. What racism is not is someone who disagrees with our president, because he is African American does not mean that mine or others view of his correctness or lack there of is because of a race issue but rather because of a different political view.
My grandparents lost all their families because of racism, and my wife's parents have lost parents, siblings and friends because of racism. Please do not dishonor their graves, or the graves of the civil rights activist in the fifties and sixties by incorrectly tossing this tag on someone. Sadly, I think if Martin Luther King were alive today he would hang his head in shame to see what a mockery we have made of this issue he gave his life for. If we do not learn from history then we will again be doomed to repeat it.
You Beck bashers are evil! I never listened to him because I worked during the air times but I got layed off this Past July and was curious as to why so many people hate him and Hannity and why they get death threats which I think is terrible for human beings to show such hatred...and what I heard from both Hannity and Beck was a love for America, facts that are easily looked up and verified. I was seeing the downgraded America before I even heard these guys. Over half the population on food stamps and welfare, inflated government taxing those who are working to death so they can't even have a semblance of any quality of life, Obama spending hundreds of thousands on vacation after vacation while millions are scrapping for any job just to keep food on the table. Our military fighting to keep us and their families safe only to come back to an America that cuckholds the enemy with this Victory Statue Mosque...it has nothing to do with Freedom of Religion as there are approx a 100 mosques in NYC and over 300 in the state alone....Beck can not preach about what he believes yet this Imam is funded by our tax dollars to preach Islam and Muslim religion, Al Sharpton (dishonors the name Reverend with his HATE speeches) is allowed to blast away and spew malice and racism...the haters and those who cry "wolf" (racism) get all the air time and notoriety and yet the Beck's and Hannity's and Tea party which are just true Americans that believe in being empowered to pave your own way in the world, not be slaves to our Government....they get labled as terrorists and nazis....there is something so twisted and wrong with humanity to follow this leftist ideology and Media Biased Lies! Glen Beck invited all religions to pray for peace, Martin Luther Kings niece was speaking about unity and brotherhood of ALL AMERICANS at Beck's rally. This was not about pushing anything racists but to dispell the biggotry and racism from the left like Sharpton, Obama Administration, this Muslim Imam, etc. We need Americans back working, private jobs created, the economy for and by American Made! I just don't get you people spewing hate, just what you think is so great about this country at the moment as it spirals in uncontrollable debt and we are becoming so culturally divided that we will become the banshi, bombing, chaos countries like the Middle East. When have they ever lived in peace? America is what many of them ran too because we had rules and order and it was a SAFE place in which you could raise a family. The Mexicans and Muslims in their respective countries don't have that so they come here. Everyone wanted to come to America for a reason...that reason is slowly disappearing into the chaos in which they escaped!
Airangel, it's clear from your completely twisted version of reality that nothing anyone says will change your mind. No facts will correct your dead-set, agenda-driven world view.
Really Toasty? and what am I wrong about? Inflated Government? Welfare and food stamps? Chaos? Post racial division? Really what do you think is working?
Air, you are so misguided in so many ways I'm afraid the only cure for you is three straight weeks of watching the Daily Show so you can stop taking yourself so seriously.
Glen Beck is leading a religous revival to "save'' america from the godless leftist socialist nightmare we are living in!!! Nothing will stop us from returning our country back to it's judeo/christian values!!! WE will wrest power from the leftist/muslim coalition!!!!!!!
No. In a couple of ways. First, if the Beckheads do as you expect, which is "nothing will stop us from returning our country back to it's judeo/christian values", and do it as many right wingnuts desire and make it an armed revolt, then yes, you will be squashed by the U.S. Army. Second, you are certifiable if you think Obama or anyone else in his administration is a Muslim. You need to be keeping company with the other asylum residents, like Orly Taits, the Queen of the Birthers, who just can't get it through her head that Obama was born in Hawaii. Finally, if Beck and his gang of loons have their way, which seems to be to create a Christian state, we will have become exactly what we fear most: a country based on religion -- and fundamentalist religion at that -- just like Iran.
Remove your head from your posterior, smell the coffee, and get with the 21st Century and out of the 17th Century...
Yes Lincoln was a republican that wouldn't recognize the republican party today. Like Jefferson and Madison, they advocated specifically for the SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. Without ANY question what-so-ever. Clearly, Glenn's attempt to rewrite history will only succeed in the weak minded.
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Very good. Now if you'd only learn what separation of church and state actually means. The real meaning of separation of church and state is government is not to interfere in the operation of churches. In other words, the government cannot come in and interfere or take over a church in order to make that church do its bidding. Churches are to free to practice their religion and free of government interference and intimidation.
It is not that purposely convoluted and erroneous definition that you and so many others have resorted to over the past decade or so.
The Founding Fathers were overwhelmingly Christian. A large of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were ordained Christian ministers.
And what do you have on the other side?
Franklin and Jefferson and a smattering of Madison -- an assortment of drops spread out over 50 years -- while you ignore the flood of pro-Christian Founders and their day-to-day writings. And by the way, Franklin made reference to God more than once in references to Congress. Throwing in Payne has always been pretty funny. The man lived in England and France and only spent a year visiting in the Americas and never after our independence -- but somehow he's a "Founding Father" Right!
With all due respect Aceyourpapi, the Muslim and Christian God have vastly differing characteristics -- they are not the same. Islam specifically says that the Jewish and Christian Scriptures are corrupted and wrong -- and only they have the truth. That truth involves removing most of the love aspect of Christianity, including Christ's sacrifice for all humanity.
To make it clear, if the KKK said that Martin Luther King attended their rallies and believed in white supremacy, would they be talking about the same Martin Luther King that we know today? Or would it simply be using his name and claiming a connection? Even if they talked about his wife and kids and family, it still wouldn't be the same person.
Good call to the guy who made the comparison with Father Coughlin. Their messages aren't exactly the same, but their motives are disturbingly similar, along with their gigantic egos. As I said in my previous post, its simply a repeating of history. Nothing new here folks.
You people are so funny. Seriously, you stand behind god and preach values, then spew hate towards other religions. Yeah, god would have taught that, right? (Please note sarcasm).
Now Glenn Beck, let me guess, god forgave him for his sins while he was a drug addict, he has a recorded history of mental illness, and he is your hero? Oh wait, did god cure him? He is favored by god, while all the starving and sick children in the world are let to die?
Let's not forget the "Beauty Queen", who still writes notes on her hands as reminders (Yeah, I did that in grade school too). Oh yeah, I'm impressed. Let's not forget how much of a quitter she is, quit mid term as a governer because things weren't going her way. Yeah, that's what I look for in a leader! (Yeah, more sarcasm)
I'll agree that nobody is perfect, but following these two shows lack of good judgement. I'm not saying the right or left is better than one or the other, I'm just surprised how many people actually fall for this garbage from these two lunatics.
Correct Fedup, many religious revivals throughout history were started by college students. And many people called "reverends" have little or no religious training, and do little or no preaching or leading of congregations.
Oh the irony of it all! Lincoln was a liberal, and so was MLK. A conservative oratory at the Lincoln memorial, on the anniversary of MLK's speech!!! Guess ol' air-head Beck and bimbo Palin had to choose this day. Nothing like a bit of controversy to get teh ratings up!!!
To the pro-Christian faction - Jefferson, Washington, Franklin, Madison, etc were all Deists. Yes, there were some religious wing-nuts around at the time like Adams. Firstly, they did not want to create another Europe with its intolerance, and secondly, there were many feuding denominations here - Protestant vs Catholic, etc. They did not want people being killed over religion. Further, Jefferson and Franklin believed in freedom of choice, which, at that point in time, was a foreign concept to most religions. Yes, the religious believed in God-ordained fate. One more thing was that the church and royalty were in cahoots; and early America was ostracized by the European churches of the day, most essentially for refusing to succumb to the English throne!!!
Jefferson, Washington, Franklin they were men of the enlightenment! People like Samuel Adams, Puritans that could stir a crowd, scared the piss out of them. They thought men like Samuel Adams were more dangerous to the great experiment than almost anything!
Just read about Sharpton's "march" at the same venue. So, just WHO is making this a racial thing? Beck gave only praise to MLK and his dream. So WTF is Sharpton doing marching in protest? Protest of WHAT? Not GETTING HIS FACE ON T.V. Stirring the pot as usual. Also noticed in the article it said that people attending Beck's rally were "mostly white". Yet didn't mention anything about the color of crowd accompanying Sharpton. Why not? Hmmmm. Beck and his supporters said NOTHING about race, yet Sharpton and others want to MAKE it, and everything else, about race. That man is all about instigating racism. Why doesn't the AA community see this man for what he is and does...uses them, exploits them and their culture, to get on T.V. and in the news. This is (supposedly) a man of God???? Not hardly.
I don't know how Sharpton turned a religious gathering into racism. Is he not a pastor that believes in God himself? What would he find wrong with Christians gathering together in America for anyway?
Incredible, compared to yesterday, I'm knocked over even more by the bigoted hatred flowing on this thread. We now kno and can see who REALLY is the party of hatred and racism. The Liberals. But I'm sure they will never admit it. This 'vine is a testament to their twisted view of America. I'm glad I don't have to live with those folks. Their elitist, negativity would bring me down.
It took me awhile to find an article on MSN about this rally. They really buried it deep! I also enjoy the bias that shows when they say "thousands showed up" or like my local newspaper "Tens of thousands showed up" .. It should read "Hundreds of Thousands", "Half a Million", "Over 300,000", etc.. This only perpetuates MSNBC standing strong with the liberals.
Also, I am quite offended by Al Sharpton's rally in the hundreds, from what I heard, saying "They will not steal our day" STEAL OUR DAY!! REALLY?! If that isn't racist. Martin Luther King's message was of equality for all races, not just a day for black people. This is a prime example of why things can't move forward in this country. It all goes back to race, oppression, and suffering instead of equality, prospering, looking towards the future.
Didn't take long for the molesters to come out with their bashing of how our country was founded and how its been a leader in the free world, "gulp",till that recent change !
Al Sharpton is nothing more then a publicity seeking idiot. First he starts of his career by stating he was friends with Martin Luther King and then found out to be a lier. Give me Bill Cosby, Colin Powell or other respected Afro-American leaders and I will gladly listen to what they have to say.
Glenn Beck had every RIGHT to have this rally on the Anniversary of MLKs "I have a Dream speech" at the Lincoln Memorial. However, anyone with any decency know he shouldn't have. He is a complete ego maniacal Hate mongering ass. This KKK rally of his was disgusting and served no purpose but to stir up more racial animosity. Any one who says it didn't is either as thick as a brick or just plain lying!
spg...it is rabble rousers like you that are "stirring up racial animosity....Beck will see this event as a huge success....and for him it was.....so what??
Lol I don't know why it's only just occurred to me, but post 1.102 made me realize the incredible similarity between Beck and the Mosque controversy... He has the RIGHT to do it, but it's insensitive to hold a rally full of conservative white people who are claiming to fight for civil rights. Just as they may have been in the right spirit, claiming it was really all about helping racial equality, etc., the conservatives have a history of repression, and to use that HALLOWED date to hold that speech on HISTORIC grounds... He has the right, so it was insensitive. I'm sure someone else has noticed that somewhere on this cluster!@#$ of a vine, but I just thought of it by myself and felt it was relevant.
You can give your blah blah blahs about how the two situations are totally different, and how I'm stretching, but it's all in reference to Beck, who's the master of false extrapolation, so I don't wanna hear it. Go ahead and disagree, I'm not going to read it.
dead grimly...You hate to see conservative white people claim to fight for civil rights.....Why??? Why do you see all conservative white people as evil??? It is a flaw in your makeup....Try to not be so bigoted...Try to have some control on that hate...
Really I am the Race baiter here! OK let us go down the list of why any decent American would be repulsed by Glenn Beck giving a speech on the Anniversary of MLKs great speech.
This is a guy that has repeatedly called Barrack Obama our first none white President a RACIST.
He has accused Obama of having "a deep seated hatred of white people."
He has called Obamas faith "a PERVERSION," calling it "DEMONIC not Divine."
He has equated Obamas policy ideas to a"Liberation Theology."
He has stated that Obamas policies will lead to the Genocide of Whites. "Blacks killing white babies."
He has stated that Obamas policies will lead to the "SLAVERY of white people."
He has stated that "ALL of OBAMA'S policies are about reparations."
He has talked at length about Barrack Obama being an "UN-AMERICAN NAME, chosen by President Obama as a statement to where his allegiances lie." That being Kenya not the USA.
This is a guy who has on the air mocked unarmed AA victims of Police violence. While berating shooting victim,Malik Jones, he actually called this boys Grandmother a "crack whore."
The list goes on and on for this loud mouth scumbag. It is common knowledge that he was a DRUNK and a CRACK HEAD him self and he obviously has yet to leave all of that ugliness behind him.
I hate to see the legacy of George Wallace claim to have fought for civil rights, yes. During the civil rights movement, the conservatives were against it. That's a fact. Now that they realize they're going to need black votes in the future, all of the sudden they're for it, they were always for it, and the political party whose BLACK chairman has even said "we haven't done much to help black voters" tries to sweep everything under the rug.
spg64, you sure do spend a lot of time watching someone you hate, to bad you watch with closed eyes. You sound like the type of person that is so closed minded there is no room for anything else.
dEd, you sound as though you want to keep racism alive, sorry to disappoint you but the majority of people have no problem with each other, we live in the same neighborhood, our kids play together, we go to work and school together. It's only when people like you, the media,some politicians and some like Sharpton who think they know better than we Americans whats in our hearts. If they would learn to shut their mouth racism would all but disappear. Our kids hardly know anything about this type of hatred . Let it die.
SPG, I tried to look up the facts that you were presenting and was unable to find anything except what people have stated it their attacks against Beck.
We were not asking for Democrat or some Liberal statements, but for actual recorded or written speeches or writings that he has put down. The truth is I do not think they exist, but I could be wrong because I am not a fan of Beck but neither am I going to slam him for something that doesn't exist. In the end all this is going to accomplish is people are going to start thinking that Democrats are full of sh*t (excuse my french, but I am so sick of people stating gossip as facts).
Come on, all you have to do is a simple web search, or is that beyond you! The amount of clips available showing Glen Becks racist crap is astounding. The last to clips were taken from his radio show, not his TV show!
You are defending a guy that gives a speech on the steps of the Lincoln memorial and lies about American History. He actually said that the Civil War caused the work stoppage on the Washington Monument when in fact it was the No Nothing movement(anti-immigration movement) that caused the stoppage well before the civil war even started. Does he think people will not check his facts. He doesn't care about telling the truth because the nutty right thinks he is above reproach!
Tell me the sights. I have heard this again and again, yet no one has anything that shows this (there was one remark when over the radio he called Obama white but look at his genealogy and you will see he has a small part of African blood in him and more Arab, and most of all he is half white because his mother is white. Do not see this as racist. I am half Jewish, 3/8 English and 1/8 Native American, this does not make me a Native American).
So instead telling me about all these statements and looking up in the Internet (I did and all they have is Beck calling the president white), there is not much to go on.
Now Glenn Beck, let me guess, god forgave him for his sins while he was a drug addict, he has a recorded history of mental illness, and he is your hero?
No...God didn't cure him; he appeared on an episode of Benny Hinn, who smacked him in the forehead and "cured" him. But he hit Beck too hard, and now he's going blind:
Glen Beck is leading a religous revival to "save'' america from the godless leftist socialist nightmare we are living in!!! Nothing will stop us from returning our country back to it's judeo/christian values!!! WE will wrest power from the leftist/muslim coalition!!!!!!!
A request to Newsvine: please put emoticons into the selection of characters we can use in our responses, and include the one which has the eyeballs spinning in opposite directions. That would be the best response to the above quoted nonsense...
Isn't it a bit strange that when you read the comments at the bottom of the article all of them are anti Glenn, and their are several here supporting him? And about this being racist? If you ever watch him you would see all the reports he has done about all the blacks that had something to do with the creation of the Constitution and fought along side of Washington to help make our country free. The term racist and hatred has been thrown around so much the words mean absolutely nothing anymore.
Donna good point.
The libs generally have no facts to back up their diatribes.
So they yell "Bush did It", or, "you're a racist", that's all they have.They have made meaningless, the words racist, bigot and prejudice.
Wolf, wolf, wolf.
People that call him a racist, probably are. People that call him anti-intellectual, probably are. People that call him anti-American, probably are. I doubt that many of the people that call Beck names have ever REALLY watched a telecast or listened to their radio or read one of his books with an open mind.
They call Beck's fan's 'sheep', yet they judge him because he hits home with many of his anti-liberal and anti-progressive stances and facts and if he's not hitting them with facts, he at least introduced the right questions.
First off, let me say that I do not like or support Glen Beck. I think he is a extreme right wing nut. Secondly, I do not consider myself to be a very religious person. I do believe in faith, but have found little use for organized religion.
What I would like to point out is that our constitution guarantees us freedom of religion, not freedom from religion as some of the left seem to think. The extreme left wants to remove all reference to god or religion from our civil society. They were pushing to remove "in god we trust" from our money. The founding fathers definitely believed that religion had a place in our society. Just look at the declaration of independence "... endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights ..." Who do you think they meant when they wrote "Creator" and capitalized it to boot. Obviously this was a reference to god.
I think that our country has lost it's way. Our moral compass, that largely came from our individual religious beliefs, gave us all a sense of right and wrong. That moral compass seems to have disappeared from our society. A new imperative, to get ahead by any means necessary, seems to have taken over. This is witnessed by the increasing frequency of people being found to be accumulating wealth through fraudulent means. Whether it is the Madoffs of the world with their Ponzi schemes, the CEOs and other officers or corporations with back dated stock options and falsified financial reports, the mortgage modification and debt relief scams, politicians being accused of numerous frauds, etc., there seems to be a huge increase in this get ahead at all costs attitude. A large number of people in this country seem to have completely lost their sense of right and wrong. If a return to a focus on faith and religion is the way to regain this moral compass is up for debate. I, for one, do not see how it could hurt. In any case, I think that we need to find some way back. Our society is becoming less and less civil with every passing year. We must find a way to reverse this trend.
Talking about, "and the sheep will follow?" Welcome to the school of "Obama's Stepfords." You've become lemmings and don't even know it.
I also like the attempts to discredit Beck, Palin, Bush, etc - it's the only "blank" ammunition the libtards have. You see, the only way these "poor excuses for Americans" can retaliate is to call people racists. Besides, can anyone tell me what message Beck brings that you disagree with? Are you against honor, liberty, the true purpose of the Constitution? Can anyone tell me the fear you have with restoring true American values?
JS: While our Constitution protects freedom of religion, the Bible warns against judging others. This is what the right, and your post, seems to do. Who are these people or you, for that matter, to judge others and their "moral compass". This is exactly what the Pilgrims were fleeing from when they landed here. Some other group of people imposing their idea of "moral compass". I think it best if people minded their own compasses. If we had more of that going on, perhaps this country would return to civility.
Glen Beck is a false prophet feeding off people's anger, hatred and fear. That's what power-hungry people do. They find the lost and they follow like sheep. For people like me who mind our "moral compass", we see this guy for who he is, pure evil.
someone had to, cause the man America should look up to is too busy playing golf and blaming his predecessor for his issues. Anyone else in any other job would be FIRED for being this incompetent.
JS in SD- How can you say you're not a religious person, and yet state that our "moral compass" comes from "religious beliefs". That's slightly counterproductive. And yes, Freedom OF Religion encompasses Freedom FROM Religion. Atheism is considered a denomination of religion. All medical forms now say "Check one: Christian, Catholic, Athesit etc." I have the religious freedom to be an Atheist, which means I have the religious freedom FROM being religious. That being said, I really resent the argument that morality is tied in with religion. Morality is often times completely ABSENT from religion. Persecution, war, discrimination, all in the name of a religious order is the name of most religious games. Morality is one's personal ethics, their code of conduct by which they lead their lives. I am a moral person in that I do not discriminate, I do not hurt others (intentionally), I do not cause damage (intentionally). I live my life legally and happily in a live and let live manner, and I do NOT subscribe to any one's religious ideals. How am I not moral?
These people that are increasing their wealth through unethical and illegal means are hiding behind their religion of choice. They go to Church once a week, and they are "absolved" of all their sins, so that they can turn around and keep getting richer while the rest of us keep struggling to feed our children. Right and Wrong do not come exclusively from religion. I learned from my parents, and they learned from life. I take my cues from God (as I define him/her/it), and I don't need any church to tell me how to conform my life.
I've heard his dribble randomly when I'm around my dad and he has it on. The guy is nothing more than a fear monger, a capitalist, and a manipulator. Not sure if he's a racist, but I could easily see him incorporating it into is persona.
He prays on peoples fear. He does it rather well. Notice all the yelling/raised voice? All to get people going. He doesn't hesitate to drop a line for goldline. He steps on toes. It's all to get people thinking he's some sort of genius. Which he is... just not in the sense most think he is... He knows how to milk the money jugs.
wow, you people are the sheep. You claim again and again "oh glenn, hes a rascist, hes a hate monger." GET ME SOME QUOTES PLEASE!!!!! Or is it you just can't find the actuall proff to support your false claims. You people, get me some quotes, or all of what you said is meaningless. He prays on peoples fears!?!?!?!? You really think another 20 years of cutting down rainforests, building cars, tvs and roads is gonna happen? think again, remember your shamanistic values, or has your feeble cultures contorted everything that we hold true into some perversion of the truth. That my friend is whats happened.
IF YOU STAND AGAINST GLENN BECK OR ISRAEL....YOU SHALL STAND AGAINST GOD!
MWHAHAHHA, and God doesnt take too kindly to people that challenge his allmighty will. Do me a favor, clear out your brain peoples, realize that your government, are liars and murderers...haha, ok? And Glenn Beck, tells it like it is, if you dont like the truth, you might aswell GET THE @!$%# OUT OF THE COUNTRY. Thanks :) Have a good day now, let God work through Glenn as a mighty becon of LIGHT!
Don't expect those making nasty comments on understand it. To restore honor you must have a clue of what honor is Alas, it appears honor and dignity are in short supply with many. To restore honor, it must mean something to you to be honorable.
I forgot to the left, anything in the private sector that makes a profit is evil. The only thing we are allowed to overpay for is a government job. Then it is impossible to overpay.
The first amendment gives us the right to freedom of speech and religion. No matter what you think of Beck, he has the right to hold this event anywhere and at anytime he chooses, provided he's not breaking any laws, of course.
And the first amendment applies to both Beck's rally and the proposed community center two blocks from ground zero. To support one and protest the other is hypocrisy.
Martin Luther King = Nobel Prize winner seeking racial peace and civil rights for all. Beck = rigtht wing attention whore in front of an almost all white audience. Will non whites show up as party poopers?
I still don't get what the unifying theme is. Are NRA fanatics going to show up packing pistols? Is it "religion" or fundamentalist Christianity that wishes no separation between church and state? Are they going to burn Quarans? Why pick this day specifically in reference to Martin Luther King? Is it the Tea Party fixation on race while trying their best to claim they are not racist? Will Fox end up paying people to be an enthusiastic crowd in front of their cameras again and then grossly over estimate the number of people that showed up? Is it just an attempt to show America that the Tea Party is a large movement (assuming there is a large crowd). What type of movement will the Tea Potty claim for itself? Will Beck have his best friend and chalk board with him? Will Glen and Sarah announce their bid for the white house in 2012? Will they confess to a love affair? What will Sarah have written on her hands this time? Can you call a rally for anti Obama rantins a religious event? Is this like a "holy roller" thang where people will go into spiritual ferver seizures reciting anti Obama talking points.
Like the repubicans and teabaggers have honor? Give me a break. All of you sheep thought it was great when that 'tard Bush was spending our future generations' money on a ridiculous war that didn't need to be gought and when he wasn't blowing the nations' money he was kissing Arab princes and holding hands with them. That's an image that still makes me puke. It's too bad that all you right wing nutjobs couldn't leave and form your own country. We would be better off. If only Beck had been successful in his suicide attempt.
Hitler was about as socialist as my middle finger! The "Socialism" in National Socialism was chosen just because it sounded trendy. Nazi Germany was as capitalistic as the United States. I think it is you who need to learn a little more history.
Of course this event has to do with politics--it's disingenuous for Beck to say otherwise. Maybe he means that they won't be discussing political issues--but we all know that the hope is to have this gathering affect political elections. And that's fine--it's a right of free speech. But he should be up front about it.
However you guys are dead wrong if you think this is all about people following Glen Beck. Those folks have proven their seriousness and will turn up to an event like this no matter who is organizing it--as long as the organizer of course is a tea party conservative. You all know full well that the media demonizes Beck and Palin because they are powerful voices of ideas and agendas that oppose the positions that the supposedly "ojective" media (not!) feels very free to support and espouse. And many of you buy into what they say and accept the demonization hook, line and sinker. And you call the tea party folks sheeples???? Please.
I don't think it is about forcing his religious views on anyone. I don't see him with his boot on your throat saying accept my views or else.
I haven't paid much attention to him, of late, but I will tell you what I know, he has a very good point.
Kruchev said many years ago that we will make you fall from within. This is about infiltrating all your organizations and slowly take them over. There is plenty of evidence that this has occured.
Beck believes that all of our organizations are wrought with corruption. Union people are seen saying the union takes my money and supports people and philosophies that I don't agree with. You hear similar things from Democrats and Republicans. There countless foundations and even churches founded under one set of principles, now supporting the opposite principles they were founded on.
Example, Christian churches founded that practicing homosexuals would not enter the kingdom of heaven now accept them as ministers - provided they are in a "monogamous homosexual relationship". The words in the new testament didn't change.
"He who stands for nothing, will fall for anything."
Mickey, you are mistaken. The National Socialist German Workers' Party was quite different from capitalists in that period, and the philosophical differences remain to be found and studied in history. Naziism was all about the socalistic side of government - seizing and redistributing wealth, feeding the people a single line of thought that required the state to control all aspects of life, etc.
The red backgound of the Nazi Party flag was a symbol offered by Hitler in recognition of the communist movement to the east - the socialization of industry and society as controlled by a central government. Capitalists were the first people to be adjudicated by the national socialists in Germany, and most had their life's work taken from them for the good of the state.
Having a moral compass and religion are NOT mutually exclusive. You do NOT need to be religious to have a moral compass, and just because someone is religious does not necessarily mean they are moral (Catholic priests charged with molestation... for example?!). I am so sick of the "so superior" attitude some religious people have that anyone who is not religious is a bad person and "going to **** (which I also don't believe in, by the way).
Socialism was the tool to gain control - MARX specifically states this. Notice how none of the self proclaimed communists never get to true communism - they get stuck on Socialism.
Socialism itself is not inherently evil, it is about promoting society as a whole - making things "equal". For socialism to work everyone, everyone must submit to a higher authority. What totalitarians, dictators, narcissists, and communists do is accumulate what they deem enough dependency on government for daily life and education to rule the masses. Then they strip away more freedoms than socialism will to protect the accumulated power.
The real problem with making things equal is that progress slows, stops, and then regression sets in. There is an old addage If you are not moving forward, then you are moving backwards. There is no middle ground.
Good Lord people, don't you even recognize tactics of the KARL ROVE MACHINE (Lee Atwater's Protege) when you see them!
THESE ARE NOTHING MORE THAN REPUBLICAN DIVISIVE TACTICS - "CONVENIENTLY" TAKING PLACE RIGHT BEFORE MID-TERM ELECTIONS! SO YOU SHOULD EXPECT THEM TO PULL OUT EVERY SMEAR TACTIC AND DIRTY TRICK IN THE BOOK.
PLEASE, stay focused and DO NOT ALLOW YOURSELVES TO BE DISTRACTED AND DISCOURAGED - AND END UP STAYING HOME WHEN IT COMES TIMES TO VOTE FOR MID-TERM ELECTIONS - NO MATTER WHAT'S HAPPENING IN YOUR LIVES!!
This country simply CAN NO LONGER afford these kinds of DIVISIVE BEHAVIOR!!
MAKE YOUR VOICES HEARD AT THE VOTING BOOTHS. And remember, 20% of the voting polulation CAN NEVER and WILL NEVER WIN ELECTIONS - if you don't ALLOW it!!
When Satan, the Anti-Christ finally does step forward he will show a face of righteousness and hide behind a shield of morality. In this way you can follow him to your self-indulgent damnation with the rest of the heartless industrialists.
I wonder who is footing the bill for this fiasco. Whether Beck is a racist or not should not be the question. The question should be why this particular place and time was chosen and what is the motive behind it. If it is religion, I would point out that if having the ten commandments shown in a public place is illegal shouldn't a professed "religious" diatribe be?
DB: Thank you for the accurate clarification. I've studied up quite a bit on communism, socialism, Marxism, etc. and if most of these clowns actually READ, STUDIES or PAID ATTENTION DURING HISTORY CLASS, they'd know how Hitler and Stalin twisted these ideas for their own political control of the masses. I hate to admit it, but democracy is beginning to be abused in the same way.
Hitler, and Stalin for that matter, were a dictators, not socialist, Marxists or communists. Forget about flag colors or what these boneheads stated in any speeches.
MLK never disclosed, which party he was registered as. Democrats accused him of being a socialist or communist. Nazi were neither today's Right wing nor socialists. They used socialism to install a Narcissistic Dictator.
You can only get such wild, baseless, assertions by reading and submitting to radical hate promoting thinkers!
Mickey-1983943 " Bob C, Hitler was about as socialist as my middle finger! The "Socialism" in National Socialism was chosen just because it sounded trendy. Nazi Germany was as capitalistic as the United States. I think it is you who need to learn a little more history."
I think you DO need a history lesson. Adolf Hitler believed in an all-controlling central government, which is what liberals believe in today.
Ironically, the definition of a "Classical Liberal" is someone who believes in a small government and freedom from control by a strong central government - what we call a conservative today. It was based on the word "Liberty", which has a root meaning of freedom from a strong central government. Here's a quote from wikipedia;
And here is the original definition of Conservatism;
"It is the persistent image of society as a command structure in which the responsibilities of leadership can be exercised within the framework of a strong state manifested in divine-right royalism....that distinguishes English conservatism from rival ideologies."
It was that very attitude that our Founding Fathers fought against in the American Revolution.
So what was originally called a Liberal is now called a Conservative, and what was originally called a Conservative is now called a Liberal.
The evil you speak of is in the form of humans, dressed in white sheets on horsebeck, about to burn crosses at the Lincoln memorial tonight! Oh, and they're bringing their guns, because of all the 'threats' to their life that will be present.
This idiot Beck is a clown to even try to put himself in the same league as MLK is laughable.He contradicts himself ever other day politicly while tring to help those scammers sell gold,and did you ever notice who sponsers his show.He is a dumbass who some smart people hired to appeal to the fears of other dumbasses to control there small minds.
While Hitler may have embraced the concept of socialism, his regime was the much more strident version referred to as fascism which he observed in Italy under Mussolini. (Fascism - "A governmental system with strong centralized power, permitting no opposition or criticism, controlling all affairs of the nation (industrial, commercial, etc." American College Dictionary) Dr. Lawrence Britt defines 14 defining characteristics of fascism. They are:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.
6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
Doesn't the bible(Revelations?) warn about those standing on a pulpit pretending/professing to be doing "God's will"?
If Beck is really concerned about going "back to God", he will donate ALL his money to organizations that help people, and live like Jesus did(simple robes and no luxuries).
Anybody who lives in luxury, yet claims to be doing "God's work"(like con artist televangelists), more than likely follows the devil, not God. Money and riches are the devil's temptations, not rewards from God.
Glen Beck has taught me so much about history...in school I fell for the liberal "blame whitey" indoctranation that tried to blame us for all the shortcomings of the black race. I am not a rascist, but black people should thank God that their ancesters were brought over here from Africa. Would they like it better if they were now living in Africa, starving, and many unredeemed by Christ? Martin Luthor King was a communist and was being monitored by the FBI. The Democrats has always been the rascists in the country but if you believe the liberal media, I dont judge anyone from their race...but you can sure tell that Obama does...The way he sneers and hold up his nose on TV you can tell he thiks he is better than anyone else.
Todd, what an illiterate, uneducated, thoughtless, paranoid, insensitive, racist cracker you are! Wow! Better to be brought in chains between decks where more than half died? My ignorant ethnocentric friend, don't you realize that much of the starvation in Africa stems from wars funded by western exploitation of that continent, which has been going on since slavery and continues in the form of mineral extraction to support our life-style? You might want to get out more or read outside your little conservative cadre.
As a white woman, allow me to be the first to say Are You Freaking Serious?! Yes, I'm sure all black people are SO thankful that their ancestors were kidnapped from their homes and families, chained to ship hulls and left to die from starvation and disease, and then those that remained were sold like cattle into slavery, with the most brutal conditions, to be treated with a complete lack of regard for their health or well being. Sounds about right. Yeah. Gratitude sounds about right. Because of slavery, (which, sorry to break it to you hunny, IS the fault of the white man) black people in todays society are still suffering from the aftershocks of such a long term and brutal part of our history. We kept an entire group of people horribly oppressed for hundreds of years, and then after "Granting them freedom", continued to treat them unfairly and unjustly. This not only added more years of black people struggling through poverty and degraded morale. Wake up Todd. If you want to allow Becks distorted view of "history" to absolve you of any guilt so that you can sleep at night, knock yourself out. The rest of us prefer to live in reality.
You typify the ignorant masses that perpetuate hate and fear. Re-read your post, it is quite obvious that you are uneducated! It is replete with misspellings. Your comment about blacks and how they should be thankful to have brought here is mind boggling. Wow...just wow.
What is more important, the English class misspellings or the concept or the idea put up in writing? You typify the masses that see the "obvious" to miss what is "important"...
I am not a rascist, but black people should thank God that their ancesters were brought over here from Africa.
Tell ya what, why don't you test that theory by having someone horse-whip you to within an inch of your life, starve you while working you harder than any mule for a few months, then hang you, then see how thankful you are for that experience.
PS - Yes, you ARE an ignorant racist... here's your sign, dumbass.
but an idea just hit me. I think that if whites were allowed to be black and blacks were allowed to be white or pick what ever culture/creed you want, then pick another for what ever reason you see fit, now attempt to walk just one mile. You don't have to go to Washington to march or go anywhere to congregate. I wonder would you perish before you reached the end of your mile? Get our country back, take our country back, restore honor, smaller government all by any means necessary if to and including second amendment rights lends itself to all the shortsightedness of a so called intelligent and well education nation of place any (extreme group) here :___________________________. Race is man's invention who's existence and goal of purpose is for the economic/financial exportation of all who are not wise enough to recognize its powerfully destructive effect on all of mankind.
Slavery is a part of history and from a historical perspective is not about blacks. All people, regardless of skin color, have had their time as slaves. As groups conquered various part of Europe and Asia, they enslaved the people of the conquered lands. Don't forget that during the formation of our country, nearly everyone was of European descent where, at the time, slavery was accepted.
Don't blame slavery on America. Americans did not create slavery. And many of the founders were opposed to the enslavement of people. See Article I Section 2 of the US Constitution. The "three fifths of all other persons," was not intended as means to diminish the value of a person, but rather to diminish the amount of representation and power from the south. Had slaves been counted wholey for determining the representation in the house, the southern states would have been excess power in the House. And, since the southern states were predominately slave territory, this excess representation would have lengthened the practice of slavery in this country.
Slavery was and still is wrong, but none of us alive today have ever been slaves or owned slaves. It's time to move beyond this argument. If not, how much longer should we continue this argument? Another hundred years, two hundred, three hundred...It's time to move beyond this and everyone needs to accept their current station in life and if they are not happy about it, work to get out of it. Continuing to blame history is not going to help any of us.
Todd - I know this may sound like liberal nonsense to you, but the fact of the matter is that we all descend from Africa and the genetic differences between races and ethnic are trivial at best. This information is not something made up but comes from the investigation of human genetics. Thus the majority of what it took to make you, me and every other person on earth human was earned through evolutionary processes in Africa, but then you may or may not believe that evolution is real. And as far as the questionable up in air pose adopted by Obama, that same gesture was a favorite of FDR except he had a cigarette holder in his mouth.
It seems as if people envision the manner in which slaves were acquired involved white men with guns and lasso's running around Africa rounding them up like cattle. This was not the case. Typically, leaders of differing clans throughout Africa would take prisoners during conflicts between one another - for the sole purpose of selling them to the slave trade ships. Such ships were anchored off the African coast long before America's involvement in the slave industry. As with everything, it was a profit based business, with everyone taking their cut.
Atlas- As I was addressing another commentator, perhaps you took my comment out of context. The commentator said specifically that black people should be thankful that they were brought over from Africa (as slaves). Hence why my comments were focused primarily on black slavery. I actually passed all of my history courses in both high school and college, and am well aware of how slavery has played out with other races and cultures.
For the record, I never blamed slavery on America, and I don't know where you got that information. Slavery began LONG before America was even founted. But tell me, since slavery was so instrumental in the development of America, how is America not at fault for its role in slavery? They may not have created the concept of slavery, but they certainly perpetrated it extensively.
Todd- Sadly, if you think you have learned so much about history from Glen Beck, then you are wildly misinformed. Your prejudice and hatred are showing here. Glen Beck has no idea what he is talking about. He is an egomaniac who is making money off of all of you who follow him like sheep. This is a sad day in America.
Todd your right about obama and that broad of his but you can't tell these dorks that. Hey Lisa, LPv is a uneducated idiot. She spelled founded wrong,lol. WJEi guess you know where you can stick your evolution. LPV as for you,get educated hunny. The white man is not the instigator of slavery. The Egyptians,whom that racists sharpton likes to brag about being black,were the owner of slaves. They enslaved the Hebrews and others to build their pyramids and temples,dig out their tombs and much more. Your comment shows you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.
@Todd - If Glen Beck was the person for teaching you your history I would suggest you take a history exam and see how much you FAIL. You're brainwashed, plain and simple.
yes, because being taken and forced to work for white people is a dream come true!!! perhaps Africa wouldn't be in the state it is in, if countries like America tried to help by forcing out the ones who are the oppressors there...I mean seriously what is the difference between theose guerrillas and the taliban...OH, thats right, they don't have anything we want!! wake up and get a grip on life. Glenn Beck is just trying stir up trouble!! he is not very smart man, I mean he is with LOSER hello...Sarah Palin didn't win. lest we forget. And Glenn Beck has his demons...a former druggie...hello!!
LVP123: WE also hada Civil War To End IT! Funny that everything said here today about slavery has left that point out of any of your comments! Why you are still fighting over race? How many white Americans died? Over 150 years ago...I was born free and so were all of you!I have not forgotten history, but I am triedof hearing this over and over again! You can rant till you blue in the face you can't change History!
I don't like what happened but it isn't happening now! Now Bash away all you want I'm not prejudice or racist, I for one live for now where we have a sh%# load of problems! Back on topic now, Beck has as much right to speak about anything he wants too, others don't have to like it or listen to it. To think he is trying to out speak MLK is ridiculous. He however has a right to say God (as did MLK) as much as he wants, there is so much hate on here, Do any of you think MLK, Jefferson,Washington would be happy at what you are saying just to each other? Think again!
How old are you, seriously? You learned history through Beck...that's Beck's twisted version...wake up! Why can't you people spot a propagandist/cultist when you see one. Guess there is a sucker born every minute. If Beck is so smart and knows history why is he claiming he didn't know today was the anniversary of MLK's speech. Either he doesn't know as much as he says or he is just playing his usual games of pretending he didn't know to try to quiet his critics, just like he claims this rally isn't political. Everyone attending did so because they hate Obama...nothing more, nothing less!! Still would love to know from all of you what Obama has done that has you so tied up in knots. If Bush was still President this rally would have never taken place even though it was him & Cheney who lead our Country down the tubes. WAKE UP!!!!
Kiki- The Civil War didn't end racism, dear. It assisted in the Abolition of Slavery, which wasn't the primary cause of the Civil War, though it did influence it greatly. It was primarily over States Rights (including the right to own slaves). The Civil War ended in 1865, and yet in 1881, the first of the Jim Crow Laws was enacted in Tennessee, segregating train cars. Racism is very much alive today, even though it isn't legalized, it is still widely practiced. There was a giant Klan meeting in Nahunta just a little while ago, and you're telling me that racism is over?
Warchief- You used the improper tense for Racist. It should be "whom that racist Sharpton" , not racists . Grow up. We all make typing errors. Now, to get back on track, you obviously didn't take my comment in context to the person I was responding to. I was referring specifically to slavery in AMERICA. America = founded by white people. Stolen from the Natives. Ring a bell?
Let's all please remember that history is written by those who hold the power. Beck's history is factual to a point but then it skews to his side of the aisle. The transverse of that argument is that if you notice, most professors in college teach VERY different classes before and after they recieve their tenure. Once they know they are unable to be fired easily, they start to skew their classes with their views in the other direction. I mean, I remember being told that indians were a peaceful people whom we killed until they left their lands. while the last part of that is historically accurate, indian nations were warring with each other non-stop before we ever showed up, and were known to attack settlers unprovoked....hardly the peaceful people we were all indoctrinated to believe. Bottom line is, don't take your info from one side and dismiss the other as drivel. The truth lies somewhere in the middle.
Atlas - how refreshing it is to hear someone post that actually has a brain. Yes indeed slavery was around long before America and the white man. Continuing to blame the actions of people in the past is beyond stupid, it is infantile and shows a complete lack of personal responsibility.
NVArt- No one is blaming other's for their actions. I wasn't referring to slavery, as a whole. I was referring ONLY to slavery in America (colonized by white men) in response to a post where an individual stated that black people should be thankful that they were "Brought over from Africa (as slaves)". You are taking my comments out of context, and completely bastardizing them. Read Todd Pollards post, and maybe you'll understand what I was talking about.
So, all of you who have "bashed" Beck and those attending this rally before this event occurs are people who supposedly stand for the liberty of all Americans?
Sorry, but it's hard to take you seriously. Can you figure out why?
It's amazing how the blind followers of the slimeball sitting. rather playing, in the white house throw stones at the few that are stepping up to the plate to correct the errors of the last election. It is time to throw out the communist and his crazy czars that aim to destroy the only free country in the world.
WAKE UP AMERICA. WAKE UP MORONS. IF YOU LOSE YOUR FREEDOM, YOU WILL NOT SEE IT BACK IN YOUR LIFETIME.
Marlene - what rights have been taken away from you? Beck had his rally, didn't he? I remember when Bush had townhalls that anyone that so much as wore a teeshirt that said something against the war or against Bush that person was hauled away and it was shown on camera as a warning. Where were all you freedom lovers then?
And you don't think people are subjected to that now by this administration!?!?!? That's politics not a person.... I'm surrounded by whiners and cry babies...
This has everything to do with politics.......who is he kidding? Glenn Beck is a fear monger and a racist. The people that listen to his line of crap are nothing but mice that follow the Pied Piper.
And you have watched or listened to Glenn entirely just how many times? Obviously ZERO to have reached such a conclusion - since you are spewing the same tired rhetoric of those who also have never watched or listened. Try forming your own opinion rather than simply regurgitating the unfounded assertions of others.
I've heard enough of the ugliness that has come out of his mouth to form my own opinion, and it's not a very a nice one. Pure ugliness and hatred. I will never listen to what this man has to say ever again. My soul wanted to vomit the one and only time I tried to listen to his garbage. I won't subject myself to that again.
That's the "beauty" of the Constitution. Any clown like Beck or Palin has his 15 minutes of fame and the Constitutional right to say whatever they want to say. Is the people who follows them the ones that are dangerous. They fuel the masses, (Beck, Palin, Sharpton, etc. I don't care right or left) and if the masses are so stupid to follow (no matter what side of the road you are on) then it became a problem.
I don't have a problem with this guy giving a speech there. Million Americans pays with their lives so this moron have this privilege. The problem is that this people are so alienated that will follow every word that he says, even if he says "jump off the cliff"....
Martin- Well said! I hate what he has to say, (also hate Palin and Sharpton as well) but I respect his right to say it. Any individual who speaks out of their beehinds just for the sake of hearing their own voice (whether it's from the left or right), annoy the crap out of me, but I deal with it. What *infuriates* me is when people just follow blindly after, embracing their words without knowing the true meaning of the sentences. It's like singing along to a song with a great beat, and you know all the words, but you have no idea what the song is saying. It's a crying shame.
It's pretty condescending to categorize everyone who disagrees with a political party a "follower" of another party.
The assumption that all citizens "follow" party leadership of some sort is nothing but an idea promoted by the parties and the media. God forbid that "we the people" should have our own ideas...! And when we do, we are cast into one group or another by those who cannot imagine thinking for themselves.
This divisive tactic of the political parties and media is creating nothing but hatred and separation. It's time for the people of America to disassociate from political parties as much as possible by "outing" those who are careeer politicians, because that is the only way to send the message that the elected are expected to behave as public servants.
What has GB ever said that was hateful or racist? Maybe his show is on another channel as well, but the last couple of years I've been watching him on FOX and he is a patriot, a gentleman whom is compassionate, and a true federalist. You can tell he believes wholeheartedly in what he does. He did call the Immam Obama racist, but that's true. So I don't understand what everyone's up in arms about.
I truly believe that Americans need to turn their trust and loyalty away from Hollywood and Washington, D.C., get past using the word "racist" toward anyone who has a different point of view than themselves, and let the 1/3 of Christian Americans have and live their beliefs without all the hatred; try directing your hatred toward those who deserve that label.
Glav, you're just pissed cause you on the left have no one to follow - no leadership. You're party is in shambles, the far left is not on board with BHO (the Muslim) because he's not far left enough for them. Conservatives don't really have to do a thing - the Dems are screwing up so badly, it's like having them on our side. Wait til November!
So you don't like love, compassion, truth, or beauty. Because thats what glenn beck talks about... hmm, you must hate life? That sucks, you should enjoy life, not be brainwashed by your government. Wake up please :) thank you.
Somehow when people like Beck and Palin are supposed to be demonized but Rangel and Waters are supposed to be held up as pillars who virtue. Then you wonder why the number for the November mid-terms look as bad for the Democrats as they do.
Another who has bought the Republican falsehood that Obama is a Muslim. Give it up. He is a Christian and if you would take the time to investigate you would see this to be true. He is not and never was a Muslim.
Maybe just maybe these people are not followers and also believe the exact same way Glenn does. Is it so hard to fathom that out of 300 million people there just maybe 100k that believe in the cause and are not followers but also doers? You bleeding hearts can't have it both ways, freedom of speech is freedom of speech for all. Because he does not believe in the direction our current leader is taking us you call him a racist. Just as the Hispanics called Lou Dobbs a racist even though he is married to a Hispanic woman. Apparently as many here seem to post, it is ok to have a free voice as long as it agrees with my voice otherwise he is a racist, fear mongering right wing nut...maybe just maybe some of you could be left wing nuts? See two opinions can resort to childish name calling.
Is it so bad to believe in the Holy Bible and try to follow its teachings? What is you fear of this mans right to do so. Afraid you might have to believe as he does? Is it really your fear he may be right, is that why he is a fear monger? I do not listen to him but I will defend his right as an American to do it without repression. MLK was allowed to make a famous speech who would want to reverse that clock and deny him that right too?
glav, have you ever read the scripture that a carnal mind can not understand spirtual matters? People with the the thought that the leadership of the congress, the senate. and the president of this great country are leading us in the right direction. is laughable. The leadership we have today is leading us straight to hell literally, and I would be willing to bet you think were headed in the right direction.
No Hannity, no Rush...all big talkers and not doers.
Ask Beck to run with Palin. Let's see if his and her policies work as they put them in action. I'm guessing their talking is just sound good policy. Trust in God and everything will be ok.
Ok, I'll eat this salmonella egg and trust in God...ooops, I'm sick and dying...God's will.
I hope Beck's rally will draw people closer to their faith and the principles of our founding fathers both of which are country has drifted away from.
Furthermore, I don't think liberals have any right to make fun of the cause. Afterall, 2 - 4 million liberals trampled Washington celebrating the annointed one's innauguration. The cost of the ceremony and following gala was an unprecedented $170,000,000. It required 32,000 millitary personnel, 10,000 charter busses, 4,000 security officers. It also generated a staggering 100 tons of trash.
"...Beck is a fear monger and a racist." Really? And Al Sharpton isn't? Sharpton hates white people. It's clear in every comment he makes. He's a racist, pure and simple, as is Jesse Jackson. Why is it only whites are considered racist?
The reason why Al Sharpton is outraged because he is jealous that the spotlight is not on him, people.!!! Also Al Sharpton don't like it because Glen Beck is white and this whole march is not about black or white this is about restoring honor and faith to this great nation. With all the corruption going on in Washinton this country is losing face and that is why Glen Beck is trying to bring it back. I am so sick and tired of you ignorant Americans knocking him for doing something positive to help. SHAME ON YOU ALL!
Obviously whatever it is they wanted church didn't make them enough money or really do much so they peddle this in the streets.
The mosque protests refuse to acknowledge or respect Muslims freedom to practice their religion wherever they chose, however- these people who are involved with maligning not just the mosque but Muslims, feel the imperative necessity to tell Muslims to move but refuse to do the same. The whole use of Alveda King is comical, Dr.King would love his brainwashed crack addicted niece regardless and would likely donate the money she gets paid by Fox to charity.
Glenn Beck is no more a racist than you are a scholar. If you actually listen to him and watch his show and read his books you will see that he is anti violence, anti racism, etc. But no, he is marked a racist by alarmists who don't even listen to what he is saying because you think he might disagree with our "President" who walks around with his nose in the air and takes 9 vacations and spends hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars on a weekend with his wife while hard working Americans are struggling to keep their businesses open.
Bring some integrity back to this country. This country was founded on the ideas of small federal government and state and personal rights. Obama is the pied piper and people follow blindly, following and being proud only because he is half black, so they can tout themselves as enlightened and non racist, and anyone that disagrees with Obama is racist. It is in fact racist to say that those do not agree with a megalomaniacal president are racist. Maybe they just don't agree with him.
It is not the government's job to bail people out. We need to start producing some product and raise the GDP ( do you even remember what that is?) People need to get off their PC high horse and get back to work to put this country back on a good economic track. Stop playing the race card. None of us had slaves, we don't care what color you are. Quit being afraid of disagreeing with someone because they are a different color. What a miserable life to lead, just sitting around trying to figure out why you are getting screwed by someone you don't even know anything about. People do things in the name of Dr. King that he would be ashamed of. His dream is not celebrated, it is exploited. His dream was that all men live together equally, there is some responsibility on the parts of all races to make this happen. Grow up people.
Ignorance may be bliss, but it will ruin this country.
Doesn't the bible(Revelations?) warn about those standing on a pulpit pretending/professing to be doing "God's will"?
Doesn't the bible(Revelations?) warn about those standing on a pulpit pretending/professing to be doing "God's will"?
If Beck is really concerned about going "back to God", he will donate ALL his money to organizations that help people, and live like Jesus did(simple robes and no luxuries).
Anybody who lives in luxury, yet claims to be doing "God's work"(like con artist televangelists), more than likely follows the devil, not God. Money and riches are the devil's temptations, not rewards from God.
If Beck is really concerned about going "back to God", he will donate ALL his money to organizations that help people, and live like Jesus did(simple robes and no luxuries).
Anybody who lives in luxury, yet claims to be doing "God's work"(like con artist televangelists), more than likely follows the devil, not God. Money and riches are the devil's temptations, not rewards from God.
Real followers of the God, will never follow a human(an obvious con man) claiming to be doing "God's work".
Some of the most moral people I've known, weren't religious. Some of the most hateful/ignorant/immoral people I've know, claimed to be "christian". If you need the threat of hell/eternal damnation as your motivation to be kind/fair to others, then you have issues.
Beck has a passion to see American renew it's honor and faith. What is wrong with that?! I agree with waiting and listening to what he has to say. Do you see fools like Al Sharpton and Jessy Jackson coming up with solutions other than the same old hate talk? We need to turn our hearts toward our creator and learn to love others in order to have peace.
Yes, have peace by warning the rally goers of the "bad" sections of town filled with those filthy immigrants--and maybe even some Muslims, Africans or Arabs. You can't talk the talk if you won't walk the talk (peace for all--except those we don't like or trust, they're just too scary).
Jerry- Thank You for making more sense then some of these ignorant people who are so quick to pass judgment. I don't see any of the liberal media just joining in on the occasion just for unity. I know MLK would want that. MLK 's niece is going to be at GLEN BECKS RALLY and thinks that those who are against it are just plain IGNORANT ACCORDING TO WHAT SHE SAYS.!
There is a lot of hypocrisy here. Please, someone who knows DC, step up, be honorable, and tell the folks about the bad sections in DC. Name them and describe them. Every big city has its bad sections. The cops are so afraid to go into certain neighborhoods in DC that when they do go in, three cars at a time go in.
When I visited Washington, D.C., a couple of years ago, I was walking through sections of the city after dark looking for a subway station without realizing the danger I was in. A BLACK cop approached to advise me against walking through certain areas like the one I was in (Southeast D.C.), and I thanked him for his concern.
So, was that cop a racist or a bigot, or was he just looking out for a traveller unfamiliar with the inner city? According to many unhinged authors on this thread, that BLACK cop must have been a hate-filled racist! How absurd!
Whatever you call him, I'm glad that cop was around to offer practical advice; he knew the city's dangerous areas far better than I did. He directed me to the subway station a few blocks away and even escorted me part of the way to it before he returned to his beat.
LPV @ I LOVE YOU!!! They are both opposite sides of the same coin, one on the right and one on the left. It KILLS me that we see people criticizing AS's commentary and taking GB's words as truth or wanting a change.
They both use and distort information to further their own agenda !! (mostly paychecks!!)
Those who don't believe that, I have some great waterfront property in the New Orleans area to sell you.......
I'm guessing a lot of third grade history stuff...Like Johnny Appleseed and Pecos Bill and George Washing did ot tell and lie. (Actually, Washington had more affairs than a Vegas prostitute)
Unbelievable is unbelievably correct. Anyone who embraces extremism has lost sight of the true picture. What this country needs at this point is not necessarily more faith in religion but more faith in its people. We need to level the playing field so that the 'American Dream' is reachable by all, not just the wealthy few.
The American Dream is not Self-Indulgence but Self-Satisfaction; the ability to lead a comfortable life based on one's honest efforts. Now it has become a 'Keeping AHEAD of the Joneses' trend. Not the realization of one's worth but the Pride (a sin I believe) in one's wealth.
When Satan, the Anti-Christ finally does step forward he will show a face of righteousness and hide behind a shield of morality. In this way you can follow him to your self-indulgent damnation.
No more of a cult than any other religion. If what you say about Mormons is true, the Catholics are the biggest cult of all. I respect Mormons for following their convictions and serving Jesus Christ and taking care of people like Jesus would. Even if I don't agree with everything they think they need to do to gain salvation, I do respect them. I've done the research and their people walk the walk better than most other religions.
Howard, you might owe me a new laptop. I read your comment and spit coffee all over my keyboard I was laughing so damn hard. The 'mormon cult'? I cant help but picture the BYU football team killing a goat and drinking its blood before its first game.
The man is an entertainer, just like the rest of them. I have watched his show, and while based on fact (more than most actually), there is spin there to meet his goals. Ask an accountant, he/she will tell you that you can make numbers say anything you want, the same goes for history. You can make history say anything you want it to. I had a history teacher play the devils advocate on many issues, twisting little facts here and there, still telling the truth, to come to outrageous conclusions....its not hard. He has made a living doing it, just like Olberman, Maddow, Hannity, Limbaugh and the myriad of other entertainers. Lets just watch what he does...he is claiming its for the families of fallen Special Operations Soldiers, if thats the case, then fine. If he goes over the deep end, then by all means, fillet him on these message boards.
Howardusa- I think your ignorant and stupid for making this comment. First of all Mormons are Christians and his religion has nothing to do with this issue. Your talking out of your BUTT!
Considering that the issue he's raising is taking away religious freedom from anyone outside his own faith I would say you are... wrong to say the least.
I refuse to listen to or support ANY person who tells me I need to bow on my knees and pray to God to be an honorable American. I don't believe in God or religion or any of it's false stories. I do lead a moral life and follow the rules/laws imposed on me which by the way take away those freedoms that God said were my unalienable rights you preach all the time. That is just another way to scare the followers to keep following. Sorry Mr Beck, you need to rethink your fear mongering ways to getting all Americans united. This is a diverse nation and has a very a diverse religious populous which has grown 100 fold from when the founding fathers drew up the Constitution God is no longer a way to unite people. Telling the TRUTH is so why do you lie so well.
You people do know the in the Mormon religion, Men are suppose to become gods and get their own planet and that their families and followers get called up to his planet right? Mormon religion is not Christian, the Bible says there is only ONE GOD! Beck is trying to create his people for he thinks he is going to become a god.
Sicken, where did you get this crazy information from? I've got Mormon friends and took the time to read the Book of Mormon and their doctrine books. I haven't seen anything that says what you say is the truth. This is certainly not what they teach. I find it difficult to believe you cast the Mormons as non-Christian when all they talk about is Jesus Christ and end all of their prayers in the name of Jesus Christ. Have you ever been to one of their temple visitor centers or meeting houses? The walls are adorned with pictures of Jesus and there are huge beautiful statues of Jesus with his hands stretched toward the masses. What gives? Are you talking from any experience or just from what somebody else told you? Educate yourself. If you don't, shame on you.
You are the one that is UNEDUCATED! My husband is an ex-mormon, his whole family is mormon, and yes what I speak are FACTS! So you need to educate yourself! Mormons even have secret names given to them in their temples, these names are for when they get called up to their heavenly planets, all the women need their husbands permission to go to these heavenly planets also. There is a lot more also and yes I have done all my research due to my children having grandparents that are Mormon.
Tithing was mentioned but it wasn't in reference to a certain church, he told all to go to their place of worship and tithe to help their churches ministry to reach out and help the community.....some people just don't or haven't learned how to listen.....
If you actually watched or listened to Glenn Beck you would know the answer - he was speaking (and still does) just as loudly against all corruption and out of control government and outrageous spending.
Beck was on CNN (Communist News Network) during the George W. Bush presidency. I suppose someone who knows so little about the subject (Beck) but continues to comment, displays what a blithering idiot they are.
You, just weren't paying attention, as long as he wasn't hammering Obama.
It was only, when he started pointig out, how inept, the quasi socialist in the white house is, that you noticed.
I'm curious. Everyone blames Bush for screwing up the Economy. Which new laws governing the manner in which business was conducted - the ones that caused the economy to crash - did GWB push through and pass?
It seems to me that the housing boom was caused by rewrites of lending rules that were enacted under Clinton.
An MSNBC article yesterday placed the start of this recession immediately after our current president was elected. He laid out all of his plans to squash the greedy, evil, business folks and all of their practices. The response was to accelerate the withdraw of thier money from US investments in order to protect themselves. Until he's gone and business as usual can go on, we are going to stay in a recession. It's not rocket science.
That being said, Beck's religious revival scares me as well. The nonsense being tossed around about racism and the Tea Party also scares me. Unfortunately, I can believe how far the media seems to be willing to go to demonize people that they don't agree with. I'm watching it happen. It's been pushed to the hilt - first against Bush when he was in office, now against anyone that has a different point of view than the nonsense being thrown at us from the Dems.
When Government tells us how to think, what to think, and how to act, and they use articles like this to do it, it's called propoganda, not news.
That's right BBYANKO, it is all Bush's fault. That's all you weak minded fools can come up with. And I suppose you believe King Obama has everything properly in control.
Tizzy, the facts are just an inconvenient truth to the left. I see rants with a whole lot of name calling and charges out of left field but very little factual support. Bush did overspend but he was not near what the Democrats have done. Just look at the deficit number. Obama has spent almost three time that of Bush in two years. His Stimulus package which produced very little cost more than both wars
Beck was screaming at the top of his voice about GWB screwing up this country. You have very adequately showed your bias and your ignorance. Here's an idea... instead of listening to people that have an agenda, why not get some damn facts yourself. That's the problem with facts... they can be so inconvenient. If you were to listen to this guy for just one week you would see he is not about getting Republicans elected like some on Fox News. He has as much disdain for Republicans as he does for Democrats. Instead of assuming that because someone is spoken of poorly in the press that he is a racist... why not listen and form your own opinion based on the facts?
That is correct Don-631756. I don't agree 100% with Beck, but I can tell you he gives facts that you can research & find are true. Unfortunately a lot of so called news commit-taters are just that they commit on the news with their or the producers opinions. In today's environment it makes sense to other than just listen to what a person has to say & take it as the truth. Please take the time everyone to listen & do some research on your own. May your days be filled with joy & prosperity.
To My Man, the o.p. of this thread.. I just like a number of other posters have heard Mr. Beck speak negatively about the former president and about both parties. The thing I believe that makes the media really mad about Mr. Beck is that he does his homework and encourages listeners and viewers to do the same You know instead of just being force feed b.s. by the media.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which can not fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation." --HERBERT SPENCER
He collapsers - do you want Tyler to end the ability to collapse honor violators? This is a PUBLIC and Free speach outlet and the better one on the NET. Stop abusing the priviledge simply because you don't agree!
Tyler could you give the some proven viners the ability to email to you to correct these politically motivated collapses when spotted?
I don't know why so many liberals want to blast this rally when just two years ago they congregated in drones to celebrate false hope and change.
2- 4 million liberals congregated in Washington to glorify and honor our first black president. The cost of the innauguration ceremony and subsequent gala was an unprecedented $170,000,000. It required 32,000 millitary personnel, 4,000 police officers and generated 100 tons of garbage. (See picture attached) Actually, the garbage is still accruing.
Many conservatives thought Obama's innauguration ceremony and subsequent gala was lavish, and arrogant during such harsh economic times. If the conservatives want to peacefully congregate, it's their right and it's not racism.
I've listened to Glenn Beck as long as I could stand it one day. If you truly believe he is not racist then you haven't listened to him at all. And, if you listen to him you'll know you can only be a Christian if you believe the way he does - which I don't and I am a Christian. He is about tearing our country down, not trying to build it up. According to him if you don't believe and act as he does, you're not a true American. He is so far outside the norm he is pathetic. And, I love how he has masked this rally - as support of our troops. Although all the money being raised is to cover expenses first - including his speakers fee as well as Palin's - before any money goes to our military or their families.
Beck appeals to the lowest intellect around and, unfortunately, there are plenty of those.
Of course the liberal rags are going to cover this rally. Glenn is the gift that keeps on giving. Every time he opens his mouth it's just that many more votes for democrats in november.
WELL, I SEE THE COMMENT CENSORS ON BOTH SIDES ARE OUT IN FORCE TODAY, SHAME ON YOU!!!
America, what has become of you. The ignorant and weak that collapse not only some comments but whole sections are truly showing their individual and collective hypocrisy. These communities allow ALL of us to have the privilege and right to express our opinions on the various topics and events occuring in our country and the world. This is what our nations beliefs were built on. This is how we differ from so many other societies whose free speech and free expression have been limited or even worse,,,removed. This is what makes our nation so great and the envy of the rest of the world.
We have these Rights as described in our Constitution. Under the guidance of our Declaration of Independence, we have All been endowed this not by men but by our Faith and Belief in Freedom, Liberty and Justice. These inalienable Rights of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness have come to us under great hardship and loss, much greater than what any person can post here or anywhere else.
When we all walk such a fine line of hypocrisy so as to voice our opinions and beliefs yet deny others that same privelege is when our nation begins to falter. Disagree, debate, discuss but never refuse anyone else the Right to do the same. We all have our individualism and that's what makes us unique, when we combine our thoughts in peaceful and intelligent conversation this is when we become exceptional as Americans.
Beck was arguing against the dems for thier lack of patriotism over the wars, money needed to fund it mattered little to the lives America was protecting. The same rights he claims to fight for mattered little when G.W. took them away from you. You see, whatever one side claims, the other takes the opposite view. It really doesnt matter what the topic is, it is all political play.
Dan - the call on when the recession actually started about the inauguration, but the cause clearly was the mortgage melt down in September and October. The cause of the melt down is traced to the lethal combination of the 1977 Community Reinvestment Act and the 1999 Finance reform Act.
Making bad laws is bad enough, but you have to recognize that the law is bad and change it. The lending problems were revealed by Regulators in Congressional hearings as early as 2003. This included regulators having issues with no down payments, no income requirements, and no accountability of Freddie and Fannie for how they made loans, packaged them, and sold them. This brought a firestorm of criticism of the regulators by members of Congress.
Members of the Republican party, but not all, realized the problem as well as George Bush. Bush requested reform 20 recorded times since his state of the Union address in January 2003. The problem is the majority of members including ALL democrats AND SOME Republicans had no interest in changing anything. NOTHING was wrong according to them.
This stalemate continued through January 2007 despite more and more Republicans coming on board with party leadership. Once the Democrats took over in 2007, All finance reform was tabled at the committee level. Bush, Bernanke, and Paulsen still made calls for changes and nothing was done by the New Leadership. NOTHING!
If you look at month by month numbers, unemployment stopped falling in 2006 and began to rise about June 2007. This is VERY important to note. Higher risk Businesses about March of 2007 started getting delayed or turned down for financing new projects.
This is because the falsely labeled toxic mortgages were starting to fail causing their ability to make loans to decrease. Banks knew they had been had and had no recourse because the loans were mainly from Freddie and Fannie. Some insured the mortgages using the same packaging used to get them to purchase the loans (caused AIG to go bankrupt). Some sat on them hoping they wouldn't bankrupt themselves, some sold as many as possible them before they "blew up". Some "creatively" reclassified to sell them.
The whole thing blew up when the international banking group, which George Soros is involved in, cashed in 500 Billion dollars in Treasuries in just 2 hours. This was over the toxic loans made by Freddie and Fannie that were sold to American banks who they had invested in. It was about - you deceived us - we insist that you back up the loans to save our investment. There is a huge amount of TARP money that went overseas and we don't know who to.
Once this blew, we were assured of a major recession until we can recover from the losses. The real problem right now is government wants business to expand while it is enslaving them with more rules, regulations, built in escalation of costs and new taxes. Translation we are now going to be here for a good long while unless something changes. Hopefully we don't drown instead.
Can you offer an example of Bush "screwing up the country"? Who told you he did? You do realize that unlike Obama, Bush had a Congress and Senate controlled by Democrats. He couldnt do whatever he wanted to do as can Obama. Most people blame Bush for the Financial Problem are ignorant of the reality of what went on, but it you watch CPAN from that time you will see Republicans trying to get legislation passed to put restrictions on the risky mortgage packages that ultimately caused the finacial problem. You will also see the Democrats over the Finance Committee denying anything needed to be done. Of course, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac was making large campaign contributions to the very same Democrats, so is it any wonder they were defending their right to pursue reckless financial products. Just follow the money and you will find out all the Democrats care about : money and power!
I cannot imagine how Americans can be so gullible. Listening to all this Beck rubbish that somehow only became an issue when President Obama was installed, but was perfectly okay when Bush was in charge.
You are afraid to stand for anything with the exception of taking money from someone else in the form of a "govment" check derived from dollars stolen from those of us who understand that this country was built on the backs of hard working Americans.
@S-480203: Typical progressive resonse. Can't debate intelligently so we'll just villify someone or something they have no facts about. That's getting really, really boorish and old.
Hey wonder who - I wonder who came up with those Glenn Beck Lies?? If you don't watch him or listen to him other than sound bites, then you are the ignorant one.
wonder, you have it wrong. Beck said some of Obama's policies appear to favor one group at the cost of discriminating against another group. In his view, these programs would appear to be racist. He never called Obama racist. He thought some policies were.
Oh - If you "goggle" it, it must be true. I just "goggled" Obama is incompetent and I found a whole host of examples but I think I'll come to my own conclusions and not use the internet as my only source for forming opinions.
Ok, I've given it some thought..."Obama is incompetent".
It's funny to visualize all you liberals scurrying to your mommy's basement or prison libraries while stoking your bongs to write your meaningless dribble about the DC rally for the Huff Post
If predictions are right, the economy is going to get much worst, and unemployment will continue to get worst and crime will increase substantially. Be prepared to protect yourself, your family and property.
WE WILL TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK IN NOVEMBER AND 2012
It might be your side that said it. There are always whiners, when there are winners. Glenn Beck will be written in the History Books for being a Civilian who had the guts to say and act upon what 3/4 of this Nation is struggling with---It is the 1960's again!---another Revolution and Civil Uprising for the positive.
Envy, jealousy, can't stop people from expressing their Freedoms in the US.
Is Al Sharpton now the Leader of Civil Rights in this country. Who would listen to this negative downer of his own people.
americanwarrior, its always interesting how your types have all these names to call people who don't agree with you, libs, progressives, socialists, marxists. On the left, I mainly use one term for right wingers. Fools! Hawaii2, Glenn Beck will not even be a pimple on the ass of history.
Odd about the accusations that Beck is a liar. When the WH made this claim, FNC sent a letter requesting a list of the 'lies'. It took the WH months to reply and it was an inconsequential mistake that Beck had corrected. This seems to me to be the usual biased attacks culminating in hurling bombs, such as hater, liar, racist, white trash and the like. Hmm, this brings back the memory of the Clinton era tactics, ie, trailer trash. Good grief, if you can't debate on the issue it doesn't help your credibility when you simply resort to calling names hoping to smear someone or a group that you don't agree with.
Dennis, you are certainly dense, You need to get your head out into the fresh air and go look at the inflammatory and defamatory names that you liberals call conservatives and those that oppose socialism
As a matter of fact, YOU are guilty of name calling yourself by using a term such as "right-winger", not to mention "fools" and then saying someone wont even be "a pimple on the ass of history". Go sit in your room until your mommy says you can play with others again.
Our Country, the United States of America wasn't built on your values.
The fact your statement is filled with envy and hate, says things are going to change in 2012, and right now all Libs and Dems are shaking in their boots.
70 per cent of the American people can't be wrong, but you are.
If it weren't Beck you are whining about, how about talking about a President who's been out of office 2 years, George W. Admit it, you don't like anyone's views other than your own. There is no logic. It is sheepish.
Anyone from the Right who takes a prolific stance, is always criticized with foul language, hatred, and blame.
We need to be a little honest here. Right or Left... you have to admit, G. W. Bush was not good. Iraq was a mistake. Any president wanted by eight other countries for war crimes like George W. is not a token the U. S. wants to use for example.
Socialism? The "WE the People", the rePUBLIC-anything, Social-anything; this country was founded on socialism.
Freedom? What freedoms do you have that isn't regulated? Speech? Arms? Health? Wealth? Religion?
Regulated freedom isn't freedom. So, lets digress. Remove the government out of your life. No police, fire, or hospitals. Everyone carries a weapon. Total anarchy.
The debate over government is unrelated to its purpose. The purpose of the government is to referee the rights of one against the other and protect its citizens from harm. Anything like roads and highways, schools, police and fire are benefits our government provides us with our money.
Now, back to Beck. Claiming to get the country back to God allienates all other religions in the country that doesn't call their diety by that name. That is why the base there are all caucasian. Guess what? Whites are a minority in this country. Nobody can be elected without a nonwhite vote. Standing on the steps where MLK spoke of diversity to a crowd that isn't would be considered an insult to all african americans. What political party does Beck represent? They just lost their vote.
How about giving the country back to the Indians and calling it a day?
Glen Beck has taught me so much about history...in school I fell for the liberal "blame whitey" indoctranation that tried to blame us for all the shortcomings of the black race.
Better idea: READ, something but read. her/she might find that there is something else but FOX News
Rick Nichols: How come that the history books are changing? In yours Confederacy won the civil war? Civil rights movement was a Rock band? How it changes?
Why? At least a third of the "facts" in high school textbooks are dead wrong. I know, I teach history and have to make corrections to the students at least twice a week. That's because I ACTUALLY SOMETIMES READ THE SOURCE MATERIAL OR I LIVED THROUGH THE HISTORY!
Chatter wrote: So, who was president during the Louisiana Purchase? Didn't that acquire the land that is now Texas? Where do you get your facts?.........................
Try Thomas Jefferson. No, Texas was NOT part of the Louisiana Purchase from France, Texas was a possession of SPAIN-----NOT THE SPANISH COLONY OF MEXICO. Hey, Chatter, your name says it all....WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR "FACTS"?
Which, by the way, is all that Glenn Beck does. He reads history books and he reads all different kinds of them and he reads the kinds that liberals love too. Just to be well informed. Before you call people names and accuse them of something, you should at least be an example of the perfect character you think they ought to be.
I dont think the history books say the founding fathers were racists......but they do say that many were slaveholders. If you are distorting "slaveholders" to imply "racist" then you have a comprehension issue........
But there is the little problem of slavery that the founding fathers left on the table so blatantly untouched, for others to figure out later...... Read into that what you will.
Ahem, you suggest read a history book which might be a good start for you. I watch Founder's Fridays on Beck because he has the actual historians who wrote books on American history. He interviews them and encourages viewers to do your own research. History has always been a passion of mine because you need to know where you've been to make good decisions for the future.
WAKE UP Martin!!! They are changing the history books that our children read in school. Instead of editing them for political correctness, our history should be left alone...the truth! Not someone's version of it.
Chatter Please study Texas History. You will find that Mexico controlled the land that became the Independent Nation of Texas before it decided to join the USA. France did not own it.
OT...Check the real history books ...not the one that Texas is stuffing down their kids brains. The Louisianna Purchase was land that began as part of Manifest Destiny...the push from sea to shining sea. Texas was part of Mexico and only annexed after the Mexican American war. Swagger swagger boom boom...not working is it? Methinks you fell into that 10-gallon hat full of BS.
So now you are falling for the Glenn Beck Lunatic Society playing victim and blaming blacks and immigrants for the shortcomings of you and the rest of the losers. The only legitimate complaint you might have is you may end up paying higher taxes for healthcare - OH MY! This pales in comparison to what blacks faced and yet you and the rest of the buffoons complain the loudest and play victim like you were being tortured.
Cani't wait to see how you twist things around and blame blacks for the meth and pediphile epidemic which you people seem unwilling to address but raise holy war over taxes.
People are so hung up on saying that we need to go back to the values withheld by our founding fathers. Have you done much true research on these people? Many of them were just as corrupt or more so than people today. Things were just more acceptable back then. Wife beating, adultery, racism...these things were commonplace back in those times and who wants to write in a history book the truth and deface what people try to believe were the truly moral times and stand against manipulators like Glen Beck?
ewent you need to reread history as your facts are twisted.louisianna purchase was land sold us by france and texas joined the union well after having achived its independence. the mexican american war came about because the mexicans didnt like where we placed the border after texas joined the union.
befuddled..Yes. I know that the deal for the land of the Louisianna Purchase was with France. Duh. And from whom did Texas gain its independence if not Mexico? Who fought the Mexican American war and over what? Texas is one of this country's most backward states because those good ole bwahs down there still think they have cannonballs where their raisins are.
The founding fathers didn't leave the slave issue blatantly untouched. If you read any of their letters, autobiographies and biographies you will discover that the issue was hotly debated. Dr. Benjamin Rush and Robert Morris as well as others such as John Adams were adamantly against slavery and the slave trade. Dr. Rush, with others, made several attempts to abolish it. Thomas Jefferson, and others from the southern states, were not of the same mind so slavery remained. At the time, our founders had so many other problems like national currency, funding a new nation, approving a constitution, protecting our borders, etc. that this issue was not resolved. Does that make them racists? I don't think so. Unfortunately sometimes you have to accomplish what you are able and put your trust in your posterity to be able to accomplish what you could not. These men kept this nation together when all the world was waiting to take what they could when it fell apart. That had to happen before the slave issue could ever be resolved.
and yet you imply that the us annexed texas as part of the mexican american war. perhaps you should save the duh for yourself. you leftwing nut jobs and your unbridled hate for anything outside your comfort zone is rather odd.
What history book? The American history book according to Obama? Billy Ayers? Hillary Clinton? Al Sharpton? hheheheheheh...NO THANKS!
Oh and just in case you're thinking of using a 'racist' crack at me, look at that list. Are Bill Ayers and Hillary Clinton black? Ah no, they are white. Then here's some other news for you, Pres. Obama is also part white, and only a quarter black!
You didn't hear about the conservatives in the TX board of ed wiping out all references to Thomas Jefferson in their history books?
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Are they really doing that?? Wow, mindboggling...all this just makes me shake my head...Glenn Beck is a man who might have his heart in the right place, but I can't believe he chose to speak on the anniversity of MLK, Jr.'s famous speech right in the same spot! Add that to the racism in Missipippi in that middle school where only whites could be class president...all this craziness is...craziness! What is wrong with you people?!? History brought us here and we are fighting our way into oblivion and all the terrorists and commies and anti-americans are just partying right now, cuz they know we're goin to hell in a handbasket just cuz we rather fight amongst ourselves instead of recognizing our differences and overcoming them to meet somewhere in the middle. What the hell do I tell my children??? You people are freakin nuts and I hope my kids don't turn out like any of you fingerpointing crazy freaks.
befuddled...No one knows anything but a Texan. So...YOu want to explain how your Ahole Texan president with the Harvard MBA managed a financial meltdown that nearly brought the banks around the world down in 2008? You want to explain why nearly all of the Bush's policies benefitted Texas and only Texas Big Business and it's the reason Texas didn't have the same unemployment problems as the rest of the country? Texas Big Oil is Big BS. But, I am thoroughly thrilled to say you Big Oil boys are on your way out. Oh sure...you might get to drill enough to keep diesel for trucks and possibly airlines. But sugarfoot, solar energy is fast replacing your Big Oil Aholes.
ewent...cling to the lies....Of course we will all believe that the leftists in government had nothing to do with the housing crash and the economy crash.....Tell us more lies....
JA...Actually, the housing crisis had NOTHING to do with right or left and everything to do with greed. That's an ideology unto itself. When a single man can extort $68 billion from his investors for 17 years and no one noticed...not the bankers he dealt with, not the SEC, you can bet your boodle it was the ideology of a single man believing he was more entitled than anyone on the planet to have it all. That's where Beck is headed.
The left didn't have a single thing to do with the Financial Meltdown. Bush owns that one. He had 8 years and the entire Supreme Court under his thumb. All he thought about was playing global cowboy...Swagger swagger boom boom.
befuddled..I see you have a need to publicize your perceived superiority. Most white male supremacists do. I know what MY history books tell me. I also know that in Texas, there is a deep seated move to insure that history is reinvented. But then, of course, it would be wouldn't it after a jerk like Bush?
Texas was considered disputed territory after the Louisiana Purchase. Jefferson thought the Purchase went to the Rio Grande, and contained about half of Texas, while Spain (Mexico would not gain its independence from Spain for another 20 years) claimed that the border was the Red River. As such, we signed a treaty with Spain that declared the border to be the Red River. When Mexico gained its independence from Spain, Mexico allowed some Americans to settle in Northeastern Texas, but many Americans settled illegally in that part of Mexico. The Mexicans saw that Americans were planning to steal Texas from Mexico, so they put more stringent restrictions on the Texans, which is when Texas (which still had a majority Mexican population, though white Americans had all the power) rebelled and somehow checkmated Mexico (remember - Texas LOST at the Alamo, and actually all major battles until the final battle). Still, though, at this time, Gen. Santa Anna was dismissed from his post without his knowledge, and, as such, Texas's independence was recognized by the United States and Texas, but not by Mexico itself. In addition, Texas claimed that its borders went to the Rio Grande, while Mexico did not. This wasn't a problem until the US annexed Texas, and then-President Polk sent soldiers to the disputed territory, knowing full well that they would be shot at by the Mexican soldiers. When they got shot at, Pres. Polk went to the Senate, and asked them to declare war on Mexico, which they did - to some very vocal opposition, especially from one Rep. from Illinois named Abraham Lincoln (yes, THAT Abraham Lincoln). When the US easily defeated Mexico in only a few months, the opponents (who were justified in their opposition) looked stupid. Still, it was the aftermath of the Mexican-American War that forced the Compromise of 1850 (without which, the Civil War would have taken place 10 years earlier and probably with a much different result).
Did anyone making these comments watch the rally? It will be on C-SPAN again tonight and on Monday. Glenn is crazy!!! Look at what he did and said at the event:
How dare Glenn Beck raise $5.5 million for our military families who have lost loved ones at war.
How dare Glenn Beck ask Americans to look to God.
How dare Glenn Beck honor and recognize those who are making a difference in our nation by truly giving of their time, their talents, and their lives to helping others.
How dare Glenn Beck ask us to stand up for what we truly believe in and take a stand for what is good and right?
How dare Glenn Beck ask Hundreds of Thousands (not tens of thousands) of people to come to Washington DC on the same date that MKL spoke to ask everyone to strive to become honorable like Martin Luther King.
How dare Glenn Beck ask that nobody make this a political event, but rather an event about FAITH, HOPE , AND CHARITY and most importantly……GOD.
How dare Glenn Beck honor Martin Luther King and the hundreds of Thousands who cheered for him every time Martin Luther King was shown on a big screen, I mean that is only the right of the black people right?
One questions, if Glenn Beck was promoting goodness, helping others, and ultimately turning to GOD, and you are fighting against him in the message he gave TODAY…….what and who are you fighting for? Just a thought.
Who else has been able to bring 240 preachers from different faiths across America to stand together locking arms, ALL in agreement that we need to turn to God. That should be one thing we can all agree on.
Ok kids heres your history lesson Texas was aquired during the Spanish American war along with several other states. Googel Spanish American War do not go to Wink a pedia they are not a relyable source.
You're right..Of course it's best to start at the beginning where there's just truth, no "left" or "right" Anglo-Americans like myself were allowed by the Mexicans to emigrate into their province of Texas...but we had to promise two things: We would convert to their state religion at the time ( Catholicism-we lied and said we would ) and 2. we would be good guests and not revolt against the Mexican govt. ( we lied and said we wouldn't )...Now, the Mexican-American war was the conclusion of what was started in 1836..To pretend otherwise is dishonest..And truth be told, The Mexican-American War was an anti-Catholic land-grab...Not surprising since all of our wars have been driven by a fusion of 1. greed 2. anti-catholicism ( Mexico, Spain )..3. white supremacy and since 1990 4. Israel's long-term security and expansion..Beck supported Bush's 2 trillion dollar unnecessary, unprovoked and illegal invasion of Iraq..Where's the fiscal conservatism? He's for "free" trade..which has wiped-out our manuf base and plenty of jobs..He's lied about 9-11-he supports the Warren..er, I mean the 9-11 Commission report....( 9-11 was a Mossad/Mossad asset/rogue CIA false-flag terror op..like the 7/7 MI-6 bombing in London ) With "conservatives" like Beck soon there won't be anything left to conserve..
yeah, read a history book, no revisionism or redacted text there. And agree with the federal govt. You won't be misled there. How about MSNBC....you'll never get a slanted message or facts left out of thier reporting. Beck interviews historians, men and women of good will to speak on history. Our founding fathers were men of God and goodwill. The text of the declaration of independence gives us the origin of our freedom. Written and attested to by the founding fathers.
I have learned a alot about history people from Beck's show which our schools have never taught us. Some of you anti- Beck haters out there are pathetic. You all are pitiful, your so quick to judge for a guy who cares about his country and wants to do something positive and good and you all kick him down. I say to you all WHAT HAVE YOU EVER DONE? This country has lost its way on so much & our government is destroying it. If you liberal Glen Beck haters don't like him thats fine but keep your nasty ignorant comments to yourself please. I am so sick and tired of hearing all the negatives including from MSNBC who fears him especially from the far left. Glen Beck pointed out about a few radical's who are surrounding this president who are dangerous like VAN JONES/ANITA DUNN which you people need to do some research of how these people think. Maybe you need to wake up. I may not agree with some of Glen Becks Views but he also brought out some good points on some issues. Before your so quick to judge me I am a proud Conservative Independent.
If you owned a another person as a slave, because they weren't the same color as you are and you thought them inferior to yourself, that is RACISM/BIGOTRY. Plain and simple.
If Beck reads so much "history", then why is 75% of the hot air coming out of his mouth, just his own personal opinion and/or lies/exaggerations?
When Beck presents proof of his version of history(which he never has to this day), then all those who kiss his backside can say they actually learned the truth from him.
Of course we will all believe that the leftists in government had nothing to do with the housing crash and the economy crash
Yep. The housing crisis resulted from Republican lead efforts to deregulate the banks, which allowed them to make high risk loans that were great while real estate prices soared, but which caused a meltdown when the real estate bubble burst - and that burst in 2006, when Bush was still in office. The Republicans also pushed capital gains tax cuts that helped fuel the real estate bubble.
Also, with repeated tax cuts benefitting mainly the rich, and increased government spending mainly benefitting big corporations, and an unnecessary war, the Bush jr. era saw a doubling of the national debt from 5 to 10 trillion dollars, soaking up investment capitol so small businesses had trouble getting loans. It also didn't help that just about any job that could be outsourced overseas was, leading to steadily climbing unemployment.
The Republicans also pushed through a special tax credit for the purchase of oversized SUVs, increasing gasoline consumption and causing a spike in gas prices, up to $4 a gallon. That of course lead to the oil companies making record profits every year for nearly a decade, but causing a major economic loss to the rest of the country. Bush also cancelled the Clinton era "Partnership for Next Generation Vehicles" that was supposed to lead to more efficient cars in favor of a hydrogen car program that has consumed vast anounts of government funds but is still years, perhaps decades away from producing any vehicles for sale.
And all that happened while Republicans controlled Congress and the Presidency. It's going to take this "liberal" government some time to fix the mess, especially since the Republicans are being obstructionists and are still trying to perpetuate the same failed policies.
Glen Beck's rally is unmitigated hubris. The very idea that someone of his political bent and uneducated blatherings should speak in the very place of MLK's great "I have a dream..." speech is unthinkable. MLK and Lincoln must be turning in their graves. Signs with Hitler mustaches on Obama, and other rageful signs at the rally prove who these people are. Makes me ashamed to be American. And they speak as if they own god. Who do they think they are, the fools.
CM- The housing crisis was the result of a Democratic congress way back in the 90's who passed laws that in essence said " fannie and freddy" must back loans to people to buy house they know they can't afford, because owning a house is something the Government must do as it is a basic human right. It was a leftist policy, that was created by a left Congress.
Champion of that- Chris Dodd and Barney Frank. Even Barney frank now says that was wrong, and a mistake.
You got a solar powered car YET. I have lived in Texas most of my life and it is the only state that has had 6 different flags fly within it;s borders. U.S., France, Spain, Mexican, Texas and Confederate. There is allot of history in this state. We became a state after being a Republic for a period of about 10 yrs. The border was to have run from the mouth of the Rio Grand river to the gulf. Follow our river and you would be surprised because it stars in Wyoming Denver was in Texas as well as Santa Fe. We had the largest Ranch in the world until someone fenced in part of the outback.
Millions and Millions of people have been killed when they forget about God. The 20th century was a testament to that fact. (Germany, USSR, China.....all Godless) They consisted of Godless Communism and then Hitler who said, and I quote: "It's not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death."
Keep in mind "God's anger is not kindled when we hurt him, his anger is kindled when we hurt ourselves".
never heard that before, in general every side thinks God is on their side. Religion has killed millions. our founding fathers knew the danger of religion in government, they remember well the dark ages and the killings. they wished it not on their country. religion is for the individual and not for the government, God could care less the action of the country, its the people that count to God.
I'm tired of the ad hominem arguments on both sides attacking Palin, Obama , and Beck although I dont agree with Palin or Glenn Beck for their idea that this country should be a "country of god again." Again you mean before it was a country i only remember the seperation of church and state by Jefferson (a deist) along with many other diests and protestants who had seen what the church of england and the catholic church had done. Although many colonies had many radical puritans and seperatists with self-government they too had seperated from the church of england.
another thing i disagree with is Palin's rhetoric she had no ethos (respect based on the speakers "credentials" from the listener) with me, she showed no belief in her speech when talking about Martin Luther King jr. or Lincoln and about their courage and the quote that she made about the people at the rally had the moral courage of both of these great men was completely irrelevent. Both of them stood up for what they believed was right at the cost of death, the most these people have to lose is their respect from their friends and families for listening to Beck and Palin's lies and political dogma about the government and the current administration.
But Obama and his administration are nowhere near perfect they have created a few laws and pushed a few bills that werent neccasary at the time but then again when people say Bush caused all this thats not true he really just sat there and did nothing (except start a mutli-billion dollar war) while his administration and the democratic majority in the senate cuased an even larger defecit by not taxing more too pay for the war that ended up being worthless as there were and still arent any WMDs in Iraq or afghanisthan. so a combination of stupid tactical planing by starting a war caused by accusations of 9/11 attacks and not taxing for the most expensive war in American history caused our downward spiral.
So instead of praying to god or obama, or Beck and Palin to pull through let's vote to tax more, end this pointless war, and quit complaining.
Unbelievable - The Forefathers put the slave voting designation in because there would be no United States Constitution if there were no compromise. The Articles of Confederations were causing the union to fall apart. Through the other writings they only put that in the constitution because they thought that slavery would die out in 20 or 30 years.
The Spanish American War took place in 1898, well after the Civil War (remember Teddy Roosevelt and San Juan Hill?) You are thinking of the War for Texas Independence (1835-1836), which was followed by the Mexican War, which ended in 1848 with the Treaty of Guadeloupe Hidalgo. Texas was independence for a short time before it entered the Union as a slave state.
beck and all these sick REPUBLICANS need to take a real look at who tore up america. americans as a whole need to wake up and realize that things dont happen in a day, month, year everything takes time. did we as people forget that we were at war before obama stepped into office and the economy was in turmoil before the big switch, now everyone wants to blame obama for whats happening instead of staying by what they chosed. just like when everyone voted for bush. he had more supporters than non supporters when he practically destroyed what was left. stop as people trying to find someone to blame and blame these idiots that have one gold in mine and thats to make their pockets fatter on our dime.
RE: Glenn (Jim Jones) Beck, and Sarah (Witch Doctor) Palin – Have you heard the latest conspiracy theory?
The term false prophet is a label given to a person who is viewed as illegitimately claiming charismatic authority within a religious group. It is obvious that Beck does not know/adhere to Mormon doctrine (even simple things like using profanity), so some are shocked that Mormons adore him and leaders of the Mormon church allow him to set upon a pedestal in pursuit of fame and wealth (self deprecation is just sheep’s clothing).
Scriptural references:
"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.”
“Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping"
Also, false prophets associate with the Antichrist, so fundamentalists who believe we are in the End Times should take heed.
Well, I guess Glenn Beck has left no place in America for Atheists and Agnostics, since they have no honor in his new kingdom of GlennBeckistan.They will have to choose God or death.
He is well on his way to trying to combine church and state. So much for freedom of (and from) religion in America.
And, while we are at it, let's take away all of the minority rights that are, currently, enforced by the federal government and let the states decide who gets what rights.
After all, states are better at deciding -
. Whether schools should be integrated
. Who rides in the front and who rides in the back of the bus
. Whether or not a woman has any reproductive rights, including abortion
. Who should be allowed to get married. Should blacks be allowed to marry whites? Should men and women be allowed to marry someone of their own sex?
You recently made a reckless accusation without even attempting to provide a scintilla of supporting evidence; therefore, I feel compelled to expose your flagrant dishonesty. You wrote that "The left didn't have a single thing to do with the Financial Meltdown. Bush owns that one." Really? Well, here's some FACTS that contradict your mindless falshood.
Who is responsible for the financial mess we're in? Maybe the New York Times newspaper can resolve that question.
The vaunted New York Times published an article on 30 September 1999, during the Clinton administration, titled "Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending." That newspaper, a liberal mouthpiece, stated "Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under INCREASING PRESSURE FROM THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people…to individuals whose credit is generally not good enough to qualify for conventional loans…In moving, even tentatively, into this new area of lending, Fannie Mae is taking on significantly more risk..In July, the Department of Housing and Urban Development proposed that by the year 2001, 50 percent of Fannie Mae's and Freddie Mac's portfolio be made up of loans to low and moderate-income borrowers."
A subsequent New York Times article titled "New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae" was published on 11 September 2003, during the Bush administration. It stated "The Bush administration today recommended the MOST SIGNIFICANT REGULATORY OVERHAUL in the housing industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago…The plan is an acknowledgement by the administration that oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac – which together have issued more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt – is broken…Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and CONGRESSIONAL DEMOCRATS who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing…'These two entities – Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac – are not facing any kind of financial crisis,' said Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. 'The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.' Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed."
So, according to the prestigious New York Times, the Democrats and their left-wing acolytes created this financial mess, while the Republicans and George Bush tried to fix it. But the Democrats blocked Republican efforts to do the right thing. Thank you, New York Times, for placing the blame squarely where it belongs...on the Democrats and their left-wing lackeys!
So, ewent, try to get the facts before you spew hysteria and showcase your ignorance.
Interesting comments since I got back to the hotel.
People are free to have, practice, or participate in the faith of their own choosing. I think maybe some took the God and faith in too narrow of a view. In some discussion today with the Sharpton people ( must say, nice, and open to discussion) I will use this as an example , as it is something i have read a lot here, and it was discussed today.
Bring God back into our lives as a way to return to the things that make this the greatest nation of earth, most likely in history of civilized man, the idea is to have faith in God, or faith in a door knob if that is what you chose, but have faith in something that fits into your beliefs.
Nobody was telling anyone what or who to believe, or have faith in. Glenn Beck was certainly not saying have faith in him, he knows he is just a man. But he is a man that learned and grew from the mistakes, or roads he traveled early in life. Is it possible that many of use, might have traveled roads that now, we would say " no way, that was not the right road"?
Glenn was not asking you to follow ___— or to join __— church, he was inviting each person to have faith in something, find your spirtuality. The notion is that Faith, a positive faith in something bigger than yourself, leads to hope. You cannot have hope without faith. If you have faith you have hope. Faith and hope leads to charity, and that really doesn't mean dropping a dollar in the bell ringers bucket at Walmart during Christmas time, but can certainly be a part of it.
Faith, is something bigger than a person is. MY faith, is what I chose to call God. Other may have faith in other men, or groups of People. For many of us, an additional Faith would be in the ideal of America. Mine is in addition to my belief in God. Having faith in God, and the ideal of this great Country we call America as I travel around the world, or meet new people who have never experienced America, only what they hear, or read, is something in many places they can only dream of.
None of it is perfect, or without flaw, but having faith in something bigger than us, gives hope for tomorrow, and for the days of our children and grandchildren . Do we want them to grow up in times of great strife, hunger, ideology ,war, civil unrest, or just plain uncivil society? Of course we don't. We want to leave a better world for them and more specifically, one filled with hate, an iron hand of politicians, or even worse,.? Of course we don't. Do we all want a better life, one where guided by our faith, filled with our hope, and a world filled with Charity, meaning kindness and caring? Sounds like a better deal to me. I personally would feel better knowing that in my little corner of the world, I kept my side of the street was as clean as I could keep it, knowing full well I am not perfect, but when I am wrong or make a mistake, I made my best effort to make things right. Can we imagine such a place, where everyone took care of their little corner , and putting tht all together, imagine what a different and better place this great idea of America would be. Just imagine that for a second. Is it not true that most of us just want the opportunity to follow our own dreams, and maybe do some good for others along the way? I think so.
Another mistake people make about Glenn beck is that he is a Republican, or democrat, or whatever. That he supports as certain agenda, or a certain political ideology. There is nothing that could be more false. you can argue all you want that I am wrong, but I am not. Beck has very little tolerance for ANY politician. He understands all to much that this monster called Washington DC has seem to forgotten that it is we " WE THE PEOPLE " that they work for. He also understands that almost ALL politicians are part of the game, and it is we the people who are getting the shaft. Be nice if one were so inclined to sit all day spending others peoples money, or making choices in the name of a deal, or a lobbyist, rather than REPRESENTING the American people. Whatever your view is, we are not being lead in a direction that is good for all. The word trillion dollars, is tossed around like someone saying ' Hey Joe, you have a dime for the soda machine? The politicians, that work for us, are now spending out great grandchildren dimes. While they pass rule after rule, creating so many obstacles to those that create jobs, kids just out of school can't find a job, people who have had their jobs for years, no longer have them, and there is no great news down the pike that would give anyone hope of that changing any time soon. Is it not our right to demand that these people, on both sides, get together, cut the crap ( excuse me only way to phrase it ) and let people get back to work? Isn't it our right, and even our responsibility to raise our voices to say " STOP "? If we are not, as the employers of those who are making bad choices for us , then we are part of the problem. Are we not?
So, don't mistake Becks words. He wasn't talking about a conversion to some particular faith. he wasn't selling bible, or other faith based books. He was asking you to return to the faith that our Founding fathers had, in all their glory and in the lessons learned by making mistakes, to be what is still regarded, all over the world, the beacon of freedom , opportunity , where a man or woman could work hard, and have opportunity to be what they wanted, and prosper from their own hard work.
Some believe that is not possible any more. many of us take that for granted. That is something the false "prophets" will jump in and take advantage of. Is some form of that going on now, and in many ways going on for some time? I believe so. But in many ways, opportunity is greater now, than it has ever been.
There are those who think that a road of Big Government making choices of our everyday lives is the way to go. The constitution says that those who believe this, have the right to, and they do, but those who think Government is the problem, and can't run a Post Office or a Train system , cannot do it better than we can, we have our rights to. We can agree to disagree, and the remedy to that is when we vote.
In the meantime, we must find a way to have discussions , without hate, without derogatory words ( you know the only place I heard the N-word was when we were talking to the Sharpton people, who were using it in the friendly way that some black americans call a trerm of endearment between two Black adults ) No kidding. I don't want to hear it from anyone.
We must learn to have rrespect for all people, as we are all fellow Americans. I found nothing but friendly patriotic people who believe in this Country at the beck rally. I found people at the Sharpton rally , ho fel they did not have equal opportunity and felt that they were owed for the past. I agreed whole hearted with the Beck group , and expressed my disagreement, respectfully with the Sharpton group. not all but most of them. In my opinion, Beck was opening a door that has long been closed, or neglected by many in the Black Community . My faith, give me hope that at the very least, some cracks in the great wall of American were made today, and that there is a strong possibility that there are people on both sides of this wall who make use of the cracks and a real, honest dialogue can bet started to find what should be obvious common ground. My faith gives me hope of this, and that those cracks were an opportunity for people on all sides , to reach out and stop those who seek to destroy us from within. Those people are out there and working very hard to use us to distort and flat out lie or attack to win at all cost. Neither side can let this happen.
This Country , with all it's faults and flaws are nothing compared to what we can be together, reaching compromise listening and reaching common ground. this in my opinion was becks call. There is no question that he, and the people who took time to look into the issues, and even the people who expressed their feelings in some pretty "odd" ways, all have something to contribute. My thought is that they too feel left out of the big picture and just picking a different way to expressing their frustration. i also know that there are those amongst us who live and breathe hopes of our failure to come together. to those people, i will say you are wrong. After today, I have more faith, and hope that we can come together in the common goal as citizen's of this special, great country we call America.
I noticed that many decided to go another route and express bitterness and down right hate, and I am going to tell you straight up, that will not work, that will result in nothing positive, and I think the majority on both sides will agree, that we will make sure, with every ounce of our strength, will will not let or great country go in your direction. In fact, you are already doing it for us, those on both sides that do not want your hate and destruction, and every " you are stupid. I know more than you, I am better than you, etc, will be, is being soundly rejected. Agree or disagree, if this is the road you want to try and take us, we will just not go. People on both sides told me that today, and I believe that. Keep it up, as that what will ultimately unite us even closer.
Having Glenn Beck, at great risk to himself and his family, has decided, agree with him or not, to be a man. certainly a gift from God, or our faith , no matter what side you are on, had the ___s to get up there and say " lets do something about our common goals. What a shame, did you see he had to wear a bullet proof vest? A man, who cares about his country enough to say things that long ago needed to be said, and will give all the time needed to talk with everyone, and het us talking between ourselves, puts his life at risk to help us be better as a nation has to wear a vest, is a sad point in our history. I pledge and speak for myself, if someone wants to attack me, and knock me down, I will get up, and keep getting up until either I cant ny more, or the person knocking me down finally understands how revolting that is. The is no, can be no violence, or that kind of rhetoric I have seen on these boards today . We have come to far as a society for that crap, so lets all have a dialogue , and as many of us who appreciate all Mr Beck and his family go through, Any of us have already signed a pledge of non violence, and i urge all who have not done so, to sign the same pledge. We are the people of the United States of America" . We are bigger than that, and that cannot be tolerated in any way. Sign the pledge on his website.
Today, I believe was a great gift presented to us, by people who are highly qualified to send us a message. On both sides. Our Faith Hope and Charity is the way out, and the path to freedom, and prosperity for all of us. We should not let this gift fall by the wayside. today, on this historic date, I invite all who believe this Country is the greatest on earth, one that hasn't reached it's fullest potential in spite of all the achievements we have made, to talk with rrespect, exchange ideas, find our common ground, and together move forward not only for our own sake, but for our children, for those who died defending us and protecting the rights for our own Faiths, views, and goals, so that we may all live together, in peace, love, and respect for all of us. So that we can all live our dreams.
It Will take men and women of strong character and convictions to get through many hurdles, bu there is no time like right now to do it.
Today was a fantastic day, and I am thank full for all who made the effort to make it happen. Lets not waste it. Have faith that we can do it, from the faith and opportunity comes Hope, and to those who may not be quick to join, we will be there to help them up when they decide that peace, and mutual respect is the answer , we will be there when you are ready.
We were given a great gift today. It is the fulfillment of the dream of dr King, we have today, equal opportunity to work together toward common, and our own goals. Gifts are a terrible thing to waste. Lets not waste this one.
I understand that many will blow this off, and that is ok. Those of us they get what I am saying , will understand what and why I am saying it.
One more thing. Let's all who want join me in thanking everyone who donated their Time, Money, or something for the auction so that today, I think it was approx 5.5 Million dollars was raised for the SOWF so that may continue to help Families and Soldiers keep a pledge that started many years ago that a soldier going into harms way, knows that his family and loved ones will be cared for, helped, and supported in the even he/she is injured or makes the Ultimate sacrifice and gives his/her life in the line of duty, defending and protecting our Country, and the rights and freedoms that we all enjoy. Because of these brave soldiers, many things we may take for granted everyday, remain part of the gifts of America, and the world and our Country is a better place because these Soldiers are out there, protecting us and those freedoms. It is a fantastic organization, and at the very least, besides our gratitude, we can help these men and woman go into battle knowing that in the event of the Ultimate sacrifice , the pledge by his/her fellow soldiers , will be honored , and be secure in knowing that we the people through this great organization will be there for them, in any situation to help the in any situation.
Thank God for Glen Beck and the positive message he brings to everyone.
The Reverend Martin Luther King paved the way for this resurgence of positive values and personal responsibility. He believed in the freedom granted to all men by God and that all men and women should be able to be in charge of their own lives and contribute to the greater good.
Oh come on! Bring up an evil man to be compared to Glen Beck is absurd! Glen has a passion for American to get back to the values that made us great. How foolish to compare that passion to a madman.
He has a passion all right--to get rich and powerful. And he's on his way! That's why he's a conservative celebrity and not serving his Brothers and Sisters in Christ without piety, but with humility. He seeks his own glory.
SElf reliance, expectation, that a person is responsible for their actions and does not blame any and everything around around them as the reasons, for their own shortcomings.
The liberal democrats are missing it.
Every program advocated by the democratic party is predicated on stealing money from the people who, earn it and using it for their own ends or handing it to a 3rd party.
Amen Johnny A! We know half of our countrymen want this nation destroyed and brought to its knees, because they voted for the Immam Obama. All in the name of entitlements they seek from the backs of the rich. Shameful, disgusting and treasonist liberals. They should be defeated and destroyed.
One wonders what the Beckerhead and his sheep would say about distinctly American phenomenalike barn raisings, quilting and husking bees and other proto/quasi socialist happenings of that sort.Of course since such things don't fit neatly into Glennda the Beckerhead's twisted world he's probably never heard of such things and might urge people to forgo them as they reek of collective action.
Glen is trying to unite Americans! not divide, To bring about wisdom,through investigations,study of history. to bring our country Back to the original founders intentions.Our government is out of control "absolute power corrupts absolutely"we need to return to our original principals, Small government,Capitalist economy,Privatehealth care. If we continue our Progressive Socialist Spend Spend Spend agenda What will be left for our children? Thanks to Glen and others we are gathering to save our country!!!
There's a difference between individuals VOLUNTARILY associating in order to assist others and COMPULSORY payment of private earnings to GOVERNMENT MANDATED WELFARE!. Think!
DisillusionedFaithful - you err not knowing the scriptures and not knowing Glenn. If anyone here had any idea how much money out of his own pocket he has spent to fund this event you would not be saying that. You might want to investigate that little piece of information. He's done this so that almost all of the money raised for this event can be given to the Special Operations Warriors Fund. If you were interested in the truth you might be interested in that. You might want to look up the definition of charity - something that I think you are greatly lacking in.
Wow, amazing, you're claiming that a group of people coming together to VOLUNTEER their time and effort to help others they care about by doing barn raisings (seen it live, lived in Ohio), bees (husking or quilting) etc. are somehow quasi communist/socialist! The ignorant tripe that comes out of the mouths of some people on here are truly astounding! These community events were held by loving, compassionate people DONATING theirefforts to help their fellow man and woman, They recognized to need to help each other. But Communism/socialism FORCES the actions from others by point of law and financial penalties if necessary. Those on here claiming Beck as hate monger or racist are the worst kind of scum, as they belittle someone while having no clue of his shows. If anyone TRULY watches, he ALWAYS cites sources and MANY various books, sites, OFFICIAL governemtn documents, videos of peoples ACTUAL words to back up EVERYTHING he says. Yes he's passionate, and so was Patrick Henry!!! I cant see anyone getting excited about a speech like Mr. Henry's, if he had said "Give me universal healthcare (or welfare, or social security, or bailouts, or income tax, or any other social engineering scheme), or give me death!!". NO...he was wanted LIBERTY, free from the tyranny of a goivernment that took it away, and taxed them to death, and tried to control every avenue of their life, just like is happening now. And to support Liberty, the Founders knew that God was absolutely necessary, because without a moral pass to control ourselves, we could not be self governing. As John Adams so rightfully put it..
“Our constitution was made for a moral and religious people; it is wholly inadequate to the governance of any other.”
- John Adams, letters.
or Geo. Washing ton in his Farewell Address...
“Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness – these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connections with private and public felicity. Let it simply be asked, “where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the instruments of investigation in courts of justice?” And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.”
- George Washington, Farewell Address.
THIS is what Glenn Beck is trying to get you to understand, and if you cannot understand this, from the people that MADE this country, then you are truly lost!
Hitler was Roman Catholic -planned on being a priest in his younger years. He was part of the German Christian Society - which bears strong resemblence to our now Christian right. Hitler used religion as his justification for killing the Jews. He claimed to be doing GOD's WILL. Just because someone claims to be a christian doesn't mean their words are not dangerous. Words that insite division, and elude to civil war are not holy - have nothing to with being a good christian. Its only a justification for their anger. The Irish have been calling their war a religious war for a 100 years. It isn't. Frankly I do not see the difference between the so-called 'holy war'(again not holy just political) the radical muslims scream about and the very apparent 'holy war' the christian right is seems to be waging! They walk such a fine line between convincing you they are God loving fearing people and the message against minorities ( and they don't draw the line at illegals anymore) and even more so the message against our own Government. I am Lutheran - a devoted Christian -believes strongly in God and Country. They used God to insite fear and anger in people who clearly are Faithful - to make you feel threatened so you will blindly follow the wrong message. Thats what Hitler did - and millions of innocent people died. You have to be careful- you cannot let anger and fear cloud your judgement.
I agree you have to be very careful about spewing fear and anger. However, that you see no difference between radical islamists "holy wars" and the Christian "right" (whatever that is, because true Christianity is not right or left, but God ruled) here exhorting us to return to trusting God and his calling to be better people, is alittle unsettling. Where in our desire to return to Christian values, Glenn Beck's exhortation, not a demand under penalty of law or or fine, do see an equivalance to promoting the extermination of an entire race of people (Jews) and see us teaching our young to strap bombs on their chests and walk into civialian gatherings around the world and blow them and many others up!!?? I agree the Irish and British situations were terrible, what was Christian about the actions of either side? Becks words do not incite division, they incite introspection, and careful consideration. Yes he alerts us to many things, and you may not agree with some things he says, but he at least always bases his arguments on printed, audio or video facts and shows them. He challenges those he calls out to show him where he is wrong, yet they never come on to debate, nbut merely excoriate him in other venues, because the facts cannot be refuted. And unfortunately, sometimes wars become necessary, and are not un-Christian. God instituted governments to be instruments of justice, to stop evil. Or should the world have just rolled over and died and let Hitler just ravage the earth? It is not pretty, and sin and evil are terrible things, but it must be dealt with. And the ultimate redress only comes when Christ returns, till then, we do our best, to live in peace with ALL men and women, to the extent it is in our power to do so. But to the point that it becomes forced upon you, then you have every right to forcably correct. Even Jesus told his disciples to take their swords with them as he sent them out, knowing the world is a dangerous place. I appreciate your words and caution to be wary of incitement to fear and anger. Yes we need to be cautious, everyday, as Christ wanta us to, to utilize our rational minds to monitor our savage hearts. I thank you for at least using reason and logic in your response, and not empty hateful rhetoric. I admire you greatly for that, and appreciate the chance to dialog with you.
George Washington was Christian but many of the Founding Fathers were Deists. And by the way, since some people don't seem to realize it, you do NOT need to be Christian to be MORAL.
What these moron teabaggers fail to understand is that MORALITY and RELIGION are MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. The religious are some of the most IMMORAL people on the planet. In fact most are only "moral" out of fear of damnation... but then again even that doesn't stop them. Take a good look around and read your history books. I don't see a whole lot of morality anywhere that religion has poisoned the population.
But to the point that it becomes forced upon you, then you have every right to forcably correct
And an alternative viewpoint has every right to believe in their god, their religion or none at all. There isn't just one god, one way. So, what right does Beck and followers have of claiming a christian god and the values therein to impose upon a diverse nation, that was founded on the principle of Freedom of religon?
No matter how you square it, using religion to further ones political or personal beliefs is wrong.
When did this turn out to be a moral debate??? And do we really want to live by our founding fathers morals?
The problem with using the moral debate is that morals have changed over the past 200 or so odd years and us along with them. If you want to live within the GB, back to morality plea, please..
All women give up your right to vote. (this was a moral issue in it's time)
All women.. no pants and long skirts.
NO BIKINIS
Bring back slavery/Jim Crow laws
Bring back antisemitism
See where this is going...........Not a good place for this country to be in. I don't say this to incite any kind of hate but to show where this "Back To Morality" argument goes.
Yes I agree MLK spoke for all and his words still resonate loudly. We should all be so glad we can informally debate like this, but lets not forget the dream has not been achieved by any stretch of the imagination. This man that gets paid for his provocative words, he is fully entitled to rally in our capital but don't for one minute imply he represents me. He has not put his life on hold to serve in any elected cacepacity, its so easy to throw peanuts from the gallery; I'd like to see him and Sarah actually volunteer (unpaid) for once. I seem to remember Sarah resigned to go seek her fortune.
colonialgirl...You couldn't handle life in colonial times on your best day. So what's with the newly imprinted BS moniker? The day your generation learns how to live without central heating and only a cook stove to keep your colonial log cabin heated in winter let me know. Hell, I'd bet you can't even fry an egg on a campfire much less know how to bake bread. Get back to basics and give up the excesses. Then talk.
Hawaii2..You asked the question of what is wrong with Beck? I will tell you in no uncertain terms. He wants people to think as he does. That's plainly wrong. He isn't asking people to adopt his ideas and ideology. He knows that if he can reach out to the most uneducated and most ignorant, like many before him, he can increase the size of his audience and hopefully gain more power. Beck is a power freak. This country doesn't need any more power freaks. Actually, we need NO power freaks. The more people who begin to idolize Beck, the more his audiences keep him wealthy. The wealthier he grows, the more power he has. The more power he has, the easier it is for him to begin to amass his own insider power structure. Hitler started that way too and everyone believed he was a good man because all he wanted was for the Fatherland to be prosperous and content.
How did Glen Beck of all people become a leader for God. Wasnt he a alcoholic and jobless for a long period in his life. How is he representing a moral person. He sounds like a con artist and at times a very bad actor, ($$$). Take a look at history and people that go off the deep end with religion they are mentalilty unsable. They often think they are God like or Gods partner. How is God talking to Glen Beck, that in its self is weird. Please people concentrate on just following the ten commands and the golden rule, (of doing onto others), and having good morals. Get off the religions thing, it VERY dangerous. Religions has always separated people through some sort of difference, like for eg. race, wealth, beliefs, where your family came from, etc. Religion is a way for the power hungry to gain power, because most people are followers, sheep in other words and fear gains their trust. Just be honest and good people, stop being haters about everything. The world has always been the way it is, haters haters haters. But I love america so much we have the freedom of thought, and so many things, we have come a long way. People used to get prosecuted just for not being a Christian.
I did not ask what is wrong with Beck. Please reread my statement.
The core of the statement is why isn't there Freedom of Speech on this board? Everyone's opinion, whether it is the left or right is being Collapsed. How can a free American Society choose, if opinions are either deleted or screened to the favortism of another party?
The people who understand and follow Beck are not ignorant. They are unhappy as to what is happening to our Country today. We are a Democracy. It is their given right.
Beck is not a power freak, but someone who can lead the Majority of Americans, staying focused on what is wrong with America today. Americans are not a happy bunch right now. It is also to refocus on MLK's I have a Dream, thus reminding those who suffered during the dark days of America when the Black People had NO freedoms.
Abraham Lincoln.
We have a Black President! America has come so far, yet I still don't understand the racism, or hatred that still exists. It was the Majority, including most White people who voted for Barack Obama.
What has happened in America, where people are floundering, trying to get back their Freedoms, and unity in this country. Following to a tee--the Constitution.
Beck's main point of this rally is not to become wealthy. It is a gathering of people who have the guts to say and rally about their disappointment on what's happening to our Government, to reinforce Martin Luther King, and his dreams.
Where are our dreams? It is to wake up all Americans to take an Activist role, using their powers that were given to them.
This is in no comparison to Hitler. My personal background all too well knows the worst Leader in Germany, the march on Europe and what he did to 12,000,000 people. He wanted an Aryan race.
In American we want all races to survive. Ewent where are the Concentration Camps/Gas Chambers in America?.
Beck is a public person, but not an Elected official. Power? What is wrong with that; it is not Hitler's kind of power. It is for the good of Americans who agree.
You could get out there and start your own rally on a subject that interests you.
Hawaii...First of all, there is not now nor has there ever been a country where there has not been some measure of poverty, insanity or those who are handicapped. If you listen to what the right wing preaches, it's these things they rail against having to pay taxes for. They whine, whine, whine about unemployment. Unemployment is high because of greed. No other reason. As for welfare, every country of the world recognizes its responsibility to help out when people are in need. The jerks of the right wing like Beck with all his money is always putting down the single mom whose old man left her with a tiny infant. Unlike Sarah Palin who figured out how to become a leech of the government, there are people who are on welfare for a reason...they NEED it. Especially now when some of our most intelligence and self-sufficient Americans are out of work. I am sick and tired of hearing the right wing whining. They are class A jackasses who are "haves" and constantly pick apart the "have nots" and then call themselves Christians. Not in my book.If you are an American, you understand what your part is in helping to create betterment for the common good. Most of the right wing whiners are out for themselves and only themselves. Enough is enough. They don't mind that we make them richer than god while they price gouge our necessities and then they have the gall to tell us we don't work, when most of us are working 2 or 3 jobs while they sit on their fat, lazy asses like Beck does.
Waiting for Nov...the clue to Beck's mentality is what he said..."My role...." He has no role. He only has the perception that he HAS one. Mentalities like Beck's that assume they have a "role" end up the same way. Beck is a narcissist. That's why he thinks he has this special "role". Dream on. As for November, you will not overturn this presidency so you can put more people out of work and on the streets homeless. Sorry, fool us once.
Ewent, Hawaii. Didn't the Mormons enslave the Native Hawaiians and forced them into slavery to work their pineapple fields and factories. Conservative values. Let's count their blessings.
Conquering, the Manifest Destiny, invading, stealing others' homes and lands while handing them our bibles, and genociding twice as many Native Americans as Hitler killed Jewish. I just love that ole time religion and American values, like one nation under god. Whose God? While they were writing the Constitution, the absolute holy grail, American values and worldview participated in the worst genocide in recorded history and the enslavement of both the Native Africans and the Native Americans. God shed his grace on thee, belch.
Values, Christianity, conservatisims, ethics and morals, I think I'll take a pass. Brainwashing and more brainwashing and more garbage words and thinking...invading, conquering and mass murder...One nation under god...
You are coming from a different direction than my statements.
Unemployed. Are the 18,000,000 who are unemployed happy to be at home, while their families have no money to live on,, abusing the Unemployment Extension checks given our our Government. What kind of incentive is this to get America moving again.
The Right Wing Philosophy is based on Capitalism. That is what our country is about.
No one in their sane mind would dispute this part of the disagreement. Only through having enough money to survive on can America come from the depths of what is now almost a Depression in the Economy.
Who's going to fix that.
If you are working 2-3 jobs, then that shows you are motivated.
I have no idea where Christianity comes into play on this subject re: Beck, his Rally, and Martin Luther King.
I am not against Welfare for those who sincerely need it. It is the abusers of Government programs, especially higher educated people taking advantage of our tax dollars.
Beck IS working. He also has the right to exert his Freedom of Speech and lead, just like you and me.
A voice, an activist for the positive. What's wrong with that? Certainly hundreds of thousands of Americans were not forced to go to this Rally, were they?
What these moron teabaggers fail to understand is that MORALITY and RELIGION are MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. The religious are some of the most IMMORAL people on the planet. In fact most are only "moral" out of fear of damnation... but then again even that doesn't stop them.
Yep. A lot of scams rely on religious appeals, with the scammer quoting scriptures to fleece the flock. There is an awful lot of lying and cheating being done in the name of God,
Some of those self-professed "Christians" claim that since they're "born again" they're already heaven bound, so they can do any sinning they want and it'll all be washed away in the end. They're deceiving themselves - if they were truely "born again" and had "the Spirit of the Lord" then they wouldn't want to sin. The fact that they're actively sinning proves that they're not really "born again".
Hawaii...Most Americans are out of work because someone else fired them. Who makes those decisions? The employees? Or, the greedhead "have" employer creating more "have nots". That's not what this country was ever intended to be....divided by wealth and greed.
Let's not pretend that the corporate whales that were too big to fail sucked up to the rest of us when they needed a bailout. When we need it are they there? No. Do they care how many more people they put out of work just so they can bankroll more money? No. Do they care what massive unemployment has done to this country since 2004? No.
The right wing is totally off base with their constant bashing and blaming everyone but the ones who make all the decisions...Big Money Men with Big Government influence.
It isn't as hopeless as it sounds. To me, this is going to be the biggest blowback attack on Big Business in the US since the days of the Teapot Dome Scandal. They left millions of Americans no choice but to stop buying what they sell and to start all over in their own backyards just like my mother and father had to do during the Great Depression.
Positive message???? Are you freaking kidding me!!! Beck is simply delivering the message of fear and hate from Murdoch and the Koch brothers that in the end simply enslaves the working people of America. You are America's weakest link.
Are we Americans becoming so much like 1939 Germans that we are willing to follow another nut like Hitler because we are delusional about how our economy got in the mess it is in???Beck stands for white supremacy and is dead set against all the progress minorities have made in the USA...He would undo any laws protecting middle-class American families from the greed of the rich and priviledged...Much like the Republican Party of the last 30+ years did to get us where we are at this moment in American history...
Please Americans...Do not give credence to a FAR RIGHT WACKO like Heir Beck or we will all suffer for many years to come...
Unbelievable, Morals God has laid done in the Bible never change with time but hold true though out history. Those are not morals but social norms of the time that you listed.
Americans who are out of work were not Fired. Laid off.
There would be jobs, if it weren't for more taxes being placed on big business. Do you realize what is happening in the real Global Economic World?. The US economy depends on the Global Economy to predict what is going to happen to all economies.
Big businesses and small businesses are being forced to go out of business. It's getting harder and harder to give employees, benefits, pensions, and retirement plans. They cannot withstand the tax hikes, nor can they keep employees, because Government is putting restraints on how they can run their business.
America is built on Captialism. Only Communist, Dictatorships are not.
When manufacturing and demands for goods has stopped, such as the car industry in Detroit; (24 per cent unemployment in this city). The Stimulus Packages given to GM/Chrysler were in the long run not a success. They still owe money to the Government, a misnomer.
No American can live without solid work, dreaming of owning a home, and Freedom of choice. Do you support a family of your own. If so, then how does one who has no regular income survive?
It is Free Enterprise in the US. Businesses falling off like flies. Just take a look around in your city. Empty stores, one after the other, bankrupt, foreclosures, buying homes, waiting for and how the economy will pick up.
The problems in this country are much bigger than the "left"...The illuminati control both the "left" and the "right" ...Oh God, the 2004 election ( 2 Skull and Bonesman ) and you people still don't wake-up..You left yourself be divide into your "left" - "right" camps by fake issues like the "Ground Zero Mosque " nonsense...The first people arrested that day were Israelis videotaping the first planes impact and cheering, all worked for a Mossad front moving co. where everyone had demolitions exp..Speaking of demo-w/o even getting into WTC 7 -the second plane hit the S. Tower at 9:03..WTC 6 blew sky-high at 9:04..Never explained, local NY media reported on it..Emer personnel responded...The original hole at the Pentagon ( before the upper floors collapsed ) was so small a tall man had to duck his head to look inside..At least 3 war games were going on that day that I know of..one involved the "simulated hijacking" of 11 passenger aircraft..Incredible, but Beck says "nothing to see here, move along..."
If you call bullsh*tting people for a living "working", then I guess Beck works.
Isn't Glenn a Mormon now? Mormons have their own version of the bible that differs from the original. If Beck is a Mormon, that explains a lot(and not positively).
Beck obviuosly has his own version of the "truth".
all those of you who think religion is the cause of death and devisiveness should think interms of what we find to argue about. Hell, we would fight over dirt if there weren't another reason.......as matter of fact we do fight over dirt. The real rub is that people who don't want to recognize the heritage of our country or the rightiousness of that heritage, prefer to use religion/rightousness as the argument. I am so damn glad to hear Obama and Sharpton reeling over Beck's get together. They are stunned and refer to it as "stirring people up" or "needing stonger centralized govt"? Really?, the people of this country HAVE HAD IT WITH THE LEFT. Do we need more centralized govt? Do we really need to find new and more creative ways to tax to sate liberal quilt trip over the environment and the 3rd world. The essence of our culture is our faith and our self determination. Libs hate it.....God commands it.
And why not? Talk about judgemental. Everything Beck has spoken about is good.....honor...faith...liberty...morality....honesty...... all things that are needed for a successful free people to live. Maybe he's the right messenger to get everyone's attention to hear the message. The story of salvation repeats itself. It's message is to trust God and follow God. It was true for the Israelites in the Old Testament and it is true now. How failed we are in being a generation that does not know history. Politicians have proven they can't be trusted. Freedom and everything associated with it comes from the rights given to us by God. The program at the Kennedy Center last night embraced everyone and God was the common factor. No one was divided. "Beck rocks"
When you are going to stop using GOD's name for everything????
GOD gives you free will. Use it and don't blame him or use him as an excuse.
If you are brilliant is because you root the ass out of you to get the things you want to get accomplished done. If you are an @!$%# is because you choose to be one. GOD didn't force you to do anything (right or wrong) is our own human free will.
Thank you, handemom, for standing up for the truth. All of these negative comments are from students of secular humanism and and sal alinsky taught in our schools today. All the nay sayers should get on their knees and pray for the patriots losing their lives for our freedoms. Why don't they don an army uniform and go to the trenches in Afghanistan; instead of wanting that culture HERE!
And Hitler was the right messenger at the right time in Germany too. He talked about all those things too. Your heart is in the right place. Place your faith in God.....not in Glenn Beck...he is wolf in sheeps clothing. God also warns you about false prophets. Just because he says what you want to hear does not make him a good person, just a good liar. Your all making him quite wealthy, do you supose he goes home at night, watches himself on TV and laughs "SUCKERS"
Please share with me fellow Christians. Is Beck a Mormon? I understood that he was. If so, how does the Judeao Christian beliefs fit into what Mormon's believe? They do not have the same view of Jesus that we have. I also understand that the Mormons do not accept people of certain ancestries in "their meetings". Since I am not a Mormon, please share how they interrelate with Christianity? And to those who claim the President is a "Muslim", if you are born to an atheist are you an atheist forever, if you are born into a Mormon family are you a Mormon forever, if you are born into a family of any particular faith can you NEVER become a Christian?
BAC..you're exactly right. Mormons are NOT "christians" in the judeo christian sense. They absolutely do NOT worship the same god or the same christ. Their entire dogma is completely contrary to mainstream christianity yet they want to fool the public into believing they are mainstream christians. Has anyone not heard the constant bombardment over the airwaves latey of Mormon radio ads ? Trying to portray themselves as everyday normal people ? They are NOT.... by any means. How do I know ? Because I'm an ex-mormon. There is nothing "christian" about this religion. They are biased bigots with an agenda and LOTS of brainwashed people and money to do their calling.
You bet he is Mormon. There's a You Tube video that you can google under Glenn Beck and Mormonism. Momons do not believe in the trinity. They can become gods. Their founder, Joseph Smith, was an ego-eccentric man with 34 wives. Wonder if Beck will ever wear a cross around his neck? Also, any questions regarding any religion are nicely outlined in CARM.org. Beck belongs to a cult.
Glenn Beck is out to make money, and he is using these Tea Partiers to fill his coffers. He is obviously using "key words" to garner the conservatives to his party movement. I have some news for all you "Beckie's". You are being USED, just like all the things you have disdain for . Beck is using rhetoric to stir up the bases, and he is getting rich from it.
It is obvious, that none of these Partiers even with their flags and acting like proud "patriots" are actually AGAINST the US Constitution. Some of you need to go back and read the Constitution and realize that there was DISTINCT separation of Church and State coming from the Founding Fathers. The Constitution gave rights to ALL people, and seeing how Beck has Politicized his Rally, and brought in anti-abortion advocates, Pastors who preach against gays, it shows a obvious political agenda and all these partiers are doing is making Beck rich and trying to erode MORE Constitutional rights for everyone else. Hint: It isn't going to happen.
handemom...No one is falling for either Beck or Palin's contortions of values. They are the same ones Jim Jones and the rest of the wild west megolomaniacs of religion tried to enforce. Beck's got more skeletons in his dirty little closet than Clinton could come up with in a decade. Or, for that matter Gingrich. Beck and Palin know exactly what they are doing...It's THEIR values they want to spread around. I'm fed up with that right wing big mouth bully BS that says we HAVE to do what a handful of misguided ideologues tell us.
All they carp about all the time is welfare, having to pay taxes, people who are collecting unemployment the right wing created with its greedy. Tell Beck to stop expecting that multi million salary. He can learn to live simply so that others may simply live or shut up.
OK, here's something that's VERY confusing in this updated, as of 12:42 PM, article. They're saying that this isn't a political rally and based on the fact that they're leaning towards the RELIGIOUS, he's actually preaching about God. He's not a pastor of any church. Never trained in theology. I don't even know what is actual faith is.....Mormon? How can anyone take this event seriously? He truly sickens me.
The article is also suggesting numbers of people who attended, as if that makes him legitimate. Yeah, like facebook friends! Given the fact that this guy has millions of people who tune into his show every day, if anything less than 850,000-1,000,000 showed up, I'd call it a failure.
He's a false prophet folks. Nothing more, nothing less. Well, maybe something less, like a scumbag.
Ryan In Texas...If Beck is a Christian, I'm the devil incarnate. The problem with people from Texas is that they are petrochemically poisoned little autocrats who think bigger is better. Got a clue for you. Less is more. Always has been. Always will be. Sure, Beck wants smaller government. Just like your Texas Ahole did. When a Texan says he wants smaller, what a Texan means is he wants Texas insiders only. Where was Gonalez from? Meiers? Rice? Texas...smell small there? Why is it yahoos all have the idea that we must do what they tell us or else?
How did Glen Beck of all people become a leader for God. Wasnt he a alcoholic and jobless for a long period in his life. How is he representing a moral person. He sounds like a con artist and at times a very bad actor, ($$). Take a look at history and people that go off the deep end with religion they are mentalilty unsable. They often think they are God like or Gods partner. How is God talking to Glen Beck, that in its self is weird. Please people concentrate on just following the ten commands and the golden rule, (of doing onto others), and having good morals. Get off the religions thing, it VERY dangerous. Religions has always separated people through some sort of difference, like for eg. race, wealth, beliefs, where your family came from, etc. Religion is a way for the power hungry to gain power, because most people are followers, sheep in other words and fear gains their trust. Just be honest and good people, stop being haters about everything. The world has always been the way it is, haters haters haters. But I love america so much we have the freedom of thought, and so many things, we have come a long way. People used to get prosecuted just for not being a Christian.
Yes, Beck is a Mormon. Yes, Mormons are Christians. We believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God who came to mortality in the meridian of time to establish the Gospel as found in the New Testament, who suffered untold agony for every person's sins, who died on the cross, and was resurrected. We allow and invite all people to come to are meetings, regardless of "ancestry". We only restrict temple worship to those members who have been faithful to covenants of faith in the Savior, in attendance to meetings, in tithing, and in refraining from alcohol and drugs. You can be a member without going to the temple, but we aim for the best the Gospel offers. We have friends who are from other faiths and we invite, but never force anyone to our religion. We believe in freedom of choice, but not freedom from consequence. You need not be what ever you are born into. You can be converted to the faith in the waters of baptism which is why we have missionaries. Just because you can become a Mormon does not mean you will have to or might even stay a Mormon. We believe that a person has to work hard to maintain the connection with the Holy Spirit for the rest of his life because it is too easy to let it slide away.
Why is everyone so in love with Christianity? I like Jesus -- such a liberal, caring for the poor, feeding the hungry, an advocate for the down trodden, a despiser of a few pieces of silver and rich men, but I wonder what He would think about this nation genociding twice as many Native Americans as Hitler killed Jesus, the God-given Manifest Destiny, the Crusades, warring, mass murders and brainwashings.
Who said, it is more difficult for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven than it is for a camel to pass thru the eye of a needle, to paraphrase a little. So, if the bible presents any credibility, then stupid Beck and cavewoman Palin are headed for hell, right?
Golleee, pro-lifers who worship mass murder. So utterly Christian, right.
Gary Root..How small exactly can a US government be if it has to serve a couple hundred million Americans? You want five men to handle it all? No one wants an entire population working for the government. But, to expect a population the size of this country's to subsist with a handful of government workers is plain nuts.
I live in NJ. The last two administrations cut back on the NJDEP staffing. Guess what? Now, you just try to get anyone to help you with an environmental problem in less than 2 weeks. Sorry, the staff of any government has to sufficiently managed all of the necessities of that government.
Are we Americans becoming so much like 1939 Germans that we are willing to follow another nut like Hitler because we are delusional about how our economy got in the mess it is in???Beck stands for white supremacy and is dead set against all the progress minorities have made in the USA...He would undo any laws protecting middle-class American families from the greed of the rich and priviledged...Much like the Republican Party of the last 30+ years did to get us where we are at this moment in American history...
Please Americans...Do not give credence to a FAR RIGHT WACKO like Heir Beck or we will all suffer for many years to come...
I'd rather have Cheech and Chong in the White House than these 2 self-promoting, fascist bozo's. Beck is a certifiable nutcase and Palin's is the political version of Britney Spears. They scare even the Republicans away. We are watching the death of the Republican Party. This movement will get out of hand and their corporate masters will no longer be able to control them. These people alienate every thinking, educated American and are making the American Reich look more foolish every day.
Come to think of it, Cheech and Chong could beat these two and they'd promote much more progressive policies.
People can make their own decisions and run their own affairs without big brother looking over their shoulders. You left wing kooks think we all need the nanny-state looking over our shoulder to make all of our decisions. Big government produces nothing - it is just a big extortion racket.
Rick428133 - you are the bigot spreading hatred, not GB. Hitler was a Nationalist Socialist and promoted policies in Germany not unlike policies promoted by POTUS BO. Freedom can only be served by a small government that allows individuals to make their own choices and live their own lives without the heavy hand of government bearing down upon them. I yearn for the freedom that I experienced in my childhood and youth in the 50s, 60s, and 70s. Many young people have never experienced freedom in America, and do not understand what we have lost.
Government power is we the peoples' power to balance the power of corporations and the landed gentry? Don't you realize that power moves into any vacuum. If you righties shrink government, corporations will simply move into that vacuum. You can vote and influence government but corporations are authoritarian monarchies. What you are saying, then is that you prefer monarchy to a democratic state. Next, you'll tell me some anti-democratic rhetoric like you hate unions. Admit it, kons, you guys hate democracy and love authoritarianism. You dream of the Return of the King.
I can always chose not to buy a product provided by a corporation, but the government must use force to make me pay taxes. I for instance do not buy products endorsed by professional athletes. They are spoiled brats and squander the fortunes that are handed to them. Corporations are owned by "we the people" . If you own stocks you can attend stockholders meetings and can make motions and force proposals to change corporate policy. Your hatred of wealth is hatred of the greatness of America. Your hackneyed criticism of the tool owners shows how little you know about worker productivity. Workers who have inferior tools earn inferior wages. In capitalist countries where tools are provided to workers by investors, workers earn wages far higher than wages earned in backward third world nations. The capitalists seldom get more than 10 percent in exchange for their contribution while wages are clearly the largest cost of doing business. As a percent of total GDP wages exceed 75% of total GDP. The Marxist argument of exploitation of workers is a total myth and is total bunk. When government raises taxes and sets about to expropriate capitalist wealth, the capitalists should hide their wealth and withdraw their investment in the worker, and let them rot in misery until workers learn to appreciate that the capitalist is their real benefactor, and government is the enemy.
alecdarkbane said: with all due respect. muslims believe in allah, not the Christian God. they are different.
For the record Allah means God. You could have looked that up before typing your comment. The "Christian" God as you call it, is the same God that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam call their God and worship Him. Three fundamental differences: Judaism adheres to the call of "Hear Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is ONE", Christians for the most part believe that God is a trinity; ONE God/Three functions, and Islam teaches "There is ONE God and Muhammad is His prophet". Read a book sometime, please. If you read the Qur'an, you will see that there are plenty of references to Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and even the exaltation of the Virgin Mary! So don't go around saying things that you have ZERO idea about.
To all the others who want to get into this whole christian, muslim, and jew discussion:
Christians: You are NOT a Christian by birthright! You must be saved by the cleansing of the blood of Christ. "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and you believe in your heart that God rose Him from the dead, you "shall" be saved. Why shall and not will? Because you have to earn and keep that salvation.
Muslims: You are NOT a muslim by birthright! To be a muslim (one who submits to God), you must live your life doing the will of Allah, meaning, prayer, service, sacrifice, modesty, forgiveness, etc. Lots of rules in the Qur'an for sure. Killing innocent people is not one of them by the way.
And last but not least, the descendants of the 12 tribes of Israel. You were given birthright because of God's promise to Abraham that He through him would make a nation even greater than the stars in the sky and more than the sand in the sea. "But Ace" you say: "there aren't that many jews in the whole world!"... Ahhhh, but see "For God so loved the world that He gave His ONLY begotten Son, so whosoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life". Notice I used the world "shall" again? The reason is because is not just a matter of believing (even athesits believe, that's why they talk about Him so much when they argue), it's about "BELIEVING HIM". There my friends is where salvation begins and ends.
Thank you all for your attention in this matter. For those non believers: It's all good if you dont believe. Just like I cant force you to believe in God, you can't force me to believe He isn't in my heart. Have a nice weekend!
Great post. I am not a wealthy person, and I have always worked for someone else. If we don't support our country's wealthy we won't have jobs, how hard is that for people to comprehend? The more demands the government puts on the Corporations, the more they have to adjust. Yes I guess there has been abuse by shareholders like Enron, but if we don't keep Corporate America, we are all in for a rude awakening. I don't care how many degrees a person has and how book smart they are either. If we don't start using common sense, things won't get any better. The fact that your post is educating will cause it to be overlooked too. They would rather argue and belittle someones ideas, which in turn causes the others to reply and defend themselves or share their disagreements or jabs. (I do it to, ask Greta lol). But thank you for sharing your knowledge on how this works.
glenn beck, a true American Kook, Racist, Liar, and Alcoholic...who would listen to this guy?? If you want to learn about something, learn, read, educate, and study for yourself instead of blindly following the loud mouth, hate spewing, tardness, of a glenn beck type, dumbass!! i'm out, sheeple and here comes dumb (beck) and dumber (palin) leading the pack...hahahaaa
Yes! If Beck and other conservatives are radical, then so were the framers of the constitution. All Beck, Palin, and others are calling for is a return to the faith of our founding fathers (and mothers) and the principles of self-disciplined free will which under-gird the constitution. The unthinking, mouth frothing liberals never acknowledge what the founders wrote in the Federalist papers. Their lines of reasoning are no mystery. Though many of them did not belong to an organized church, they were not atheists.
Excellent stuff Handemom. I have never heard a voice of reason in the liberal movement, take for example Martin33189, This poor man snaps his cap at the mere mention of God. Listen to me Martin, Dont step off the chair!!
Why is it that if someone is trying to do something good every one has to find the fault of the person instead of joining in the solution, no wonder the world hates america.
Who is Beck and Palin to restore honor? They should start the restoration from their homes. Palin just got divorced to start the tea party movement and family is in shambles. They are trying to continue the racial ambiguity of th past. Other races will not fold their hands and watch. Even if Obama does not win the next election.History has been made. They can't take that away from him. Why didn't Palin and Beck "do something good" as some of the contributors implied during Bush Administration? Where were they when the whole thing was falling apart. I hope she runs for presidency so we can see the "miracle" she will perform.
Handemom - if you Beck lovers admire him & what he says so much about following God, then why do you same people hate Obama so much who was a community organizer and truly wants to help the less fortunate among us but the Republicans and some Blue Dogs are stopping him at every turn. He's also a wonderful husband and father but those "family values" you all espouse are forgotten on him. Why is that?
You have the nut cases on both sides of the aisle. Al and jesse turn off as many people as glenn and sarah. Science has proven all the fairy tales false, it just goes to show how easy people are brainwashed.
Just a quick question - who is the feather d*** doing all the collapsing ? Many of these collapses are starred ...what the hell constitutes a cause for collapse? What a tool ...
He is a SCAM Handemom. Gloat Bock and SarinGas are going to attempt a run in 2012. These two rascals are republican party lackeys. The very monsters, via the george bush reign of horror, Who ARE the Very Power Tribe which put We Americans and our country into the catastrophe we are in. The republican and it's spinoff "teaparties" are NOT to be trusted. They will say sweet sounding things looking innocent and pure, but are WOLVES in Sheeps Clothing of honorability.
Giving any power to the republican/teabags is asking Dracula to guard the BloodBank.
Gary, let the rich pull out their money. Is that what happened in Sweden? In France? In Finland or any other socialist countries. Not the last time I looked. You are simply a defender of the international capitalist elite. An enemy of the proletariate.
Gary, let the rich pull out their money. Is that what happened in Sweden? In France? In Finaland or any other socialist countries. Not the last time I looked. You are simply a defender of the international capitalist elite. An enemy of the proletariate.
Indeed the country is sliding downward, due to people like Glenn Beck. He helps to divide the natio even more rather than offering any solution for bringing it together. He appeals to the basest of instincts in the weakest of minds. His anti-intellectualism stifles creativity and entrepreneurship. His lies about the Democrat's intent and the administration's accomplishments further cuts the society into factions our Founding Fathers warned of. Beck is but the latest charlatan to fall in love with the sound of his own voice, and arrogantly believes he has been called to some greater purpose than anyone else. It is his kind, and the likes of Palin, who will unltimately destroy the country, rip apart the Constitution, and pull down our place in the world. America will change a bit from today's exhibition, and all of the change will be dark and destructive.
Have you ever listened to Beck? You are just reiterating what the Godless libs in this country want you to believe. When was the last time you had an original opinion rather than spouting the opinion of left wing fear mongers who want you to forsake God and look to the government as the Almighty one.
GEORGE---------- Lighten up libs, the guy is an entertainer.No matter what you say, or how ferventtly you scream, and the end of the day, he is an entertainer, and every deposit he makes, he laughs a little harder at you.
You can call Beck, what ever you like, as loud as you like and Obama will still, be an inept quasic socialistic liar, who shortly, will be a lame duck president.
George- Unbelievable....Obama sits in a church that sees the Reverend espouse hate week after week for twenty years, surrounds himself with radical czars like Ken Jennings, the "safe school czar" whom was once the President of NAMBLA, (National Man Boy Love Association), and Van Jones who simply wants "whitey" vanquished. I could go on and on and on. You libtards call guys like Beck racist and destructive, while everything about this regime and Obama is racist and certainly destructive. Are you people so enamored with entitlements that you can't see the forest for the trees, or do you simply hate this nation? What is it?
I believe you have name dislexia. It is Obama that has put this country in a spiral downward. Is it purely coincidence that racial remarks have become widespread in the last year and a half? I don't think so. If you look at all of the polls, Obama has gone against the will of the citizens on virtually every major issue. With all do respect, what happened to innocent until proven guilty. Obama through that out the window also. in stead of being so cynical about Beck's possible underlying motives, try a little openmindedness and see what becomes of this rally. Of course, the media has to always deface anyone or anything that me be against our chosen one (Obama). Is everyone that has negative remarks concerning Beck and his rally is actually afraid that maybe, just maybe, something good will result.
George, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but this country has been slowly sliding downwards ever since Congress and the Senate has been under Progressive-Democratic control. And it has gotten worse ever since Obama became President. He (Obama) is the only man I ever seen that can take gold and turn it into lead. So maybe you can benefit from Glenn Beck if you will open your mind and listen to what he has to say. I personally don't agree with everything he says, but he makes sense AND he does his research and homework. You cannot deny that. And if you want, try to dispute what he says. And just to prove my point, I'm going to pick apart your comment here.
Indeed the country is sliding downward, due to people like Glenn Beck. He helps to divide the nation even more rather than offering any solution for bringing it together
Like I stated in my first paragraph. This country has been sliding downwards ever since Congress and the Senate has been under Progressive-Democratic control since 1996. Glenn Beck had and has nothing to do with the decline of America. You can thank our politicians and corrupt moral leaders for that. Glenn Beck has offered America not only solutions to our nations problems but has warned us of what is going to happen if we continue down the socialist path. And thus far he has been correct in his predictions.
He appeals to the basest of instincts in the weakest of minds. His anti-intellectualism stifles creativity and entrepreneurship. His lies about the Democrat's intent and the administration's accomplishments further cuts the society into factions our Founding Fathers warned of.
His appeal is just to the opposite of what you wrote. I don't know of anyone who you describe as weak in mind. In fact most small business owners and HIGHLY intellectual people not only agree with Glenn Beck, but throw their support behind him. Beck does not have to lie about the Progressive-Democrat's intent, he just exposes their own lies and intents. Obama does not have any major accomplishments that benefit the country as a whole. Just failures and the juggling of his own true intentions. And apparently you are not a student of American history nor have you studied what our founding fathers wrote AFTER the Constitution was written. If you had, then you would have been better informed about why the Constitution was written the way it was. Beck has not created any factions here. The Progressive-Democratic party has done a good job of that itself. With statements of describing people as the "have and have nots, Spreading the wealth" and describing conservatives, independents and others who oppose Obama as racist, is an attempt to create class warfare and a racial division among the general population. This is what our founding fathers warned us of.
Beck is but the latest charlatan to fall in love with the sound of his own voice, and arrogantly believes he has been called to some greater purpose than anyone else.
I'm sorry, but Glenn Beck is a messenger with a sense of purpose and direction. And that is evident in the consistency of his messages and actions. How he delivers his message is also unique in the sense that it gets people's attention and makes them think and do their own research. He has on many occasions, challenged the progressives to dispute him and what he has said. They cannot because he researches and confirms facts. He does not offer rumors or half-truths. He couples his political beliefs with his religious beliefs because our founding fathers in their wisdom coupled these beliefs together and that is what forged our once great nation. You are trying to define Beck's own beliefs and steadfastness as being arrogant. If you want examples of arrogant attitudes, just look and Nancy Pelosi and Barrack Obama.
The progressives would have you believe that Separation of Church and State means that religion cannot influence affairs of the state when actually it means that the state cannot influence the population through religous institutions. If religion truly could not interfere with the state (as the progressives would have you believe) then The Reverends Martin Luther King, Jessee Jackson, Farrakhan and others would have been unable to make the social/political gains that have been attained through their pulpits. Again, read your history and do your own research to draw your own conclusions. Don't believe the progressive doctrines without doing a fact-check.
It is his kind, and the likes of Palin, who will ultimately destroy the country, rip apart the Constitution, and pull down our place in the world. America will change a bit from today's exhibition, and all of the change will be dark and destructive.
Palin's political ambitions are unknown but she has coupled herself with Beck because she believes in what he is saying and understands the danger America faces. The progressive movement has done more damage to the Constitution than any other political organization or individual. Beck and Palin have not attacked this document but rather are defending it and it's stated doctrines.
This dark and destructive change you speak of has already been started. Not by Glenn Beck or Sarah Palin, but rather by the progressives like Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and company long before Beck and Palin came on the national political scene. Our standing in the world has and still is slipping thanks to Barrack Obama and his gang of progressives. Glenn had nothing to do with it.
Again, use the common sense God gave you and do your own research and take the progressive agenda with a grain of salt.
Your rambling is so wrong and ignorant it's mind boggling.
LOL, afraid to ask but how does he "stiffle" (it's 1 f BTW) creativity and entrepreneurship?
Beck is trying to bring people together and has offered many possible solutions yet you say otherwise.
Lots more to ridicule you on but not worth the time.
In closing, I would much rather live in a country with Becks sincerity then with feeble minded folks like you as you sir are the one heading down a path of darkness.
George is right on. Beck is a leader of sheep. It's dinner time for all you sheep.. Get fat and sleep well. Glen is going to sell you and make lots of gold from your hides.
I'd like to know why Geoge's comment was collapssed by the community? I've noticed that an extraordinary amount of comments are being collapsed and very few of them when I click on them have any sort of inflammatory rhetoric? Is that what this has come to? If the majority doesn't like what you say...well we'll just collapse them? I don't like Glen Beck, I think he's an opportunistic con man but I absolutely respect and defend his right to freedom of speech. Something those of you who are constitutional supporters might want to conside before you collapse someone's comment for no real reason!
I think the collapsing of comments is in keeping with the mentality of so many of the conservative posters. They, like their media friend FOX, only like opinions with which they already agree and any opinions or facts that refute the message are unwanted. Therefore, they continue to be dupes, lackeys and water carriers for the made-up messages of the Glen Becks, Rush Limbaughs, and Carl Roves of the world who can convince these people of anything as long as they wrap the message, no matter how erroneous, hateful or unconstitutional, in the flag or the Bible.
Steve Schimpf........think you need to notice that Obama was not even in office when the housing market fell apart. Those of you helped to elect the congress that sucked up to lobbyist and took their money..in the process they, congress, deregulated the financial system that allowed the banks to create the loans they sold to wall street...and helped to cause the massive failing of the same housing market. You need to notice that it is congress that passes all the bills and programs that have helped put this country where it is today....and all this started way before Obama. Those in congress that have been there nearly their whole lives have ruined this country.....and they listen to no one other than themselves....no matter what they may claim.
I find it funny that the headline announces "Dueling DC Rallies"...then describes Mr. Beck's event as attended by a swarming sea of people whom seemed to fill every crack and crevice of the Washington Mall...and later describes Mr. Sharpton's "event" as being held at a local high school.
"Conservative commentator Glenn Beck and tea party champion Sarah Palin appealed Saturday to a vast, predominantly white crowd on the National Mall to help restore traditional American values and honor Martin Luther King's message. Civil rights leaders who accused the group of hijacking King's legacy held their own rally and march."
I guess the left has not learned much since MLK gave his "I Have a Dream" speech. It is about the color of the skin and not the content of the character. Brother Al still thinks that way too. Gotta keep the race baiting going if he's gonna get paid.
I've heard those exact words spoken of Sharpton and Jackson. If Sharpton, Faracon (probably mis-spelled, but who cares) Jackson, etc., didn't perpetuate racism they would be out of a job. And another thing, I believe that MLK would not approve of how they go about what they do. All those guys do is rable-rouse and spew hatred.
I caught that too....it just had to be stated in the article's first paragraph, that the crowd was "predominantly white"...I believe that MLK would not have wanted that fact to have been noticed or cared about very much at all.
I guess MSN has their own dream (racism) to "keep alive". What a disgrace. A couple hundred thousand people peacefully meet in a public square and talk about God, peace, and progress for our country. And MSN just feels compelled to point out immediately that there were just far too many white people for the event to be of good taste.
I was considering that point as well. I wonder how many people actually showed up for sharpton's rally, and how many of them were white? Predominantly black turn out I'm sure, but we can't call THAT racist now can we.
Your ignorance is right on your sleeve, isn't it? Kevin (not Ken) Jennings was the founder of GLSTN (The Gay / Lesbian / Straight Teacher network), which is an organization that promotes equality in education regardless of sexual orientation. The fact that your twisted little mind manages to somehow equate that to NAMBLA shows exactly where you are coming from. If you really want to help the cause you claim to support, you'd be better off shutting up and letting the professional handle the lying and smear campaigns....
Sven - Doesn't matter what group was up there, they are going to be at least 73% White, unless they were formed specifically for a particular race, like the NAACP was.
You are acting just like the Democratic party leadership. DIVISIVE and PETTY
Glenn Beck had been promoting his rally on TV for months. Rev. Al just threw something together last minute. If you consider the amount of time put into it, they're about even. And quite frankly, I don't know why either of these two can draw a crowd like this.
But if you really wanna be fair, the Million Man March kinda dwarfed Beck-O's spiel, so the conclusion that can be drawn is that when you're actually fighting for a real and coherent cause, you can get more people involved. A couple hundred Thou showin up to hear "You need more Jebus" seems like it might be a disappointment to anyone expecting to come and hear an actual message.
One only has to look at far left websites, like moveon. Daily Kos, or Huffington post to see that the marching orders were given to do what cannot be done. I find it odd that people who were not there, can give a first hand account of what happened this morning.
It was absolutely wonderful. If one were to compare the comments here, to what happened in Washington today, it is clear where the hate comes from. It will not work. Every sentence of hate, only shows people who is looking at soultions, and those who thrive on the hate.
I thought the Kennedy Center event was one of the most powerful. It was, but this morning was 600,000 times more powerful. It was in no way a political rally. There were no signs, no chants, no riots such as G-12 events are. You had 600,000 plus people who honored troops and their promise to each other to look after their families in case they didn't come home.
Over 5 million dollars were given to SOWF to do that.
There were Black Americans, Asian Americans, White Americans, Indian Americans.. you name it, all gahered in peace and to express love for Amrica. The comments here, most of them, you heard none of that. It was all positive, without hate , or anger. Even people from the Sharpton rally, came, and stood in awe of the feeling of this group. Everyone welcomed them, many people hugging and linking arms.
There was no hate. From what I have read prior to this even, last week, hate is what the Far left was looking for. There was none. So every attack, every false claim, only goes to show who is responsible for the hate. You know who you are.
Glenn was very humbled, as were everyone there. I met people from all over this country, and the idea that this was all Tea party, or all some group, is totally false. This was a cross section of America, giving a lesson on how to have discourse .
This wasn't about Glenn Beck. This wasn't about Palin. This wasn't about anti anything. This was about people who love what America is at it's core. It was what about the blessing this country and it's people ALL people have. It was about not being the problem, but working toward solutions.
So, you couch quarterbacks, think about the fac that you were not there. We wish you were, as you couldn't help but feel it in the air.
This was about the Special Ops soldiers and helping those who help keep the pledge that started in the Dessert back in the Iranian Revolution. This was about the honor of that pledge .
This was about people, all people being together with RESPECT for one another. To see people, as far as the eye could see, lock arms with strangers in a mutual love of this Country was a sight to see. many, many tears of joy that the American spirit not only lives, but is thriving , and growing everyday.
It was truly a moment in history.
Just remember, every line of hate, every line of ridicule, and every line of falsehoods and attempt to discredit our Country only makes more come to the side of America's greatness. You help those who believe in America, with every hate filled word. Becks " mesage" if there was one, is to be there for you , when the day comes that you understand that no peace, self peace, comes from hate. It never will happen.
We will pray for you in the meantime , and be there to help you up when you understand that you have been duped.
What is interesting about Beck, is that you can feel that he cares. About me, you, the Country, the soldiers that fight for it , and he even cares for you that are filled with hate.
I am sure George Soros, or Moveon., Daily Kos, and all these others that you seek to find answer, one day, you will know that could care less about you . I know, I voted for this guy, and his false hope.
Today, and last night, I felt nothing but real hope, and the solution to the hate.
I have never felt more welcome, as a Black American than I have in the last 24 hours. There were many many people who had come, some from far away , that said the same thing. It was like being in the middle of friends you didn't know you have. It was awesome.
Nobody, including Beck, made themselves out to be a God, or a voice of god. It was individuals, 100's of thousands of them, talking to the god of their belief, in their own way .
So you can twist and turn , attack and ridicule, and there will be many like me, who finally see the hate mongers for what they really are, and today, I proudly and soundly, reject those that hate. You have your own agenda, one that I seek no part of. There were many , many like me today . I am on the side of the United States of America, and I am proud of it, and last night, left no doubt that I belong here, and was welcomed with open arms.
The hate only exposes you that do, for what you are . When you are ready, you will be welcomed also.
Oh, not single arrest, everyone stayed to pick up liter and such ( wasn't much ) and the Park Service Police were just fantastic. Many of them has tears in their eyes. Many said this was the most peaceful crowd they have ever seen. I want to thank them. True Professionals, nice people , and they were very helpful and appreciated.
Well said, Bobby - the left just doesn't have an answer for what's happening across the country. The Democratic party is dis-jointed and in shambles - so it's the Saul Alinsky ideology for them - that's all they have left.
Lucy 1: A big old thank you is in order for your posted commentary. After reading about half of the comments on this newsvine thread through out the day, I am amazed at the amount of hatred expressed and how easily it appears to come from so many of our "fellow Americans". You are a lucky person to have experienced this in person. I can only imagine how it must have felt to have been there. I listened to it through the internet and found myself getting "misty eyed" a few times. God bless you as well as all of the people of this nation, regardless of their take on this honorable gathering.
Great posting and I hope it clears up some of the things being spread around. I still detest the fact that Al and his group had to use it as a political tool for their own needs. But I'm sure they won't be the only ones.
What's beyond imagination is this country is quickly dissolving into a myriad of religious factions. Just like in the Middle East. I guess Mr. Beck can now fashion himself as an insurgent or even a warlord.
LOL. That's pithy and pretty well sums it up. Scary to think that about 80% of our country has an imaginary friend and about 40% of them are very serious about it.
I would bet the ones here so ready to bash Christians for their beliefs are also the ones spouting how we need to be more tolerant to the Muslims. You are free to believe what you wish in today's America, as long as you aren't Christian. If you are, you're ridiculed and and called names. Where are Christian's 1300+ comment posts on them taking down the crosses that commemorated the deaths of police officers in Utah because they were afraid it would give the message that the cops would be biased against non-christians? Or the posts about how it's no longer okay to say UNDER GOD in our Pledge of allegiance? Thank you Mr. Beck for raising that money for people who really deserve it.
I don't have to believe in you GOD to be American.
So when I do the Pledge of Allegiance I don't use GOD in it. I don't like nobody to shove me down my throat his/her belief, so I don't do the same. It's my free will to choose in what to believe or not,
One only has to look at far left websites, like moveon. Daily Kos, or Huffington post to see that the marching orders were given to do what cannot be done. I find it odd that people who were not there, can give a first hand account of what happened this morning.
It was absolutely wonderful. If one were to compare the comments here, to what happened in Washington today, it is clear where the hate comes from. It will not work. Every sentence of hate, only shows people who is looking at soultions, and those who thrive on the hate.
I thought the Kennedy Center event was one of the most powerful. It was, but this morning was 600,000 times more powerful. It was in no way a political rally. There were no signs, no chants, no riots such as G-12 events are. You had 600,000 plus people who honored troops and their promise to each other to look after their families in case they didn't come home.
Over 5 million dollars were given to SOWF to do that.
There were Black Americans, Asian Americans, White Americans, Indian Americans.. you name it, all gahered in peace and to express love for Amrica. The comments here, most of them, you heard none of that. It was all positive, without hate , or anger. Even people from the Sharpton rally, came, and stood in awe of the feeling of this group. Everyone welcomed them, many people hugging and linking arms.
There was no hate. From what I have read prior to this even, last week, hate is what the Far left was looking for. There was none. So every attack, every false claim, only goes to show who is responsible for the hate. You know who you are.
Glenn was very humbled, as were everyone there. I met people from all over this country, and the idea that this was all Tea party, or all some group, is totally false. This was a cross section of America, giving a lesson on how to have discourse .
This wasn't about Glenn Beck. This wasn't about Palin. This wasn't about anti anything. This was about people who love what America is at it's core. It was what about the blessing this country and it's people ALL people have. It was about not being the problem, but working toward solutions.
So, you couch quarterbacks, think about the fac that you were not there. We wish you were, as you couldn't help but feel it in the air.
This was about the Special Ops soldiers and helping those who help keep the pledge that started in the Dessert back in the Iranian Revolution. This was about the honor of that pledge .
This was about people, all people being together with RESPECT for one another. To see people, as far as the eye could see, lock arms with strangers in a mutual love of this Country was a sight to see. many, many tears of joy that the American spirit not only lives, but is thriving , and growing everyday.
It was truly a moment in history.
Just remember, every line of hate, every line of ridicule, and every line of falsehoods and attempt to discredit our Country only makes more come to the side of America's greatness. You help those who believe in America, with every hate filled word. Becks " mesage" if there was one, is to be there for you , when the day comes that you understand that no peace, self peace, comes from hate. It never will happen.
We will pray for you in the meantime , and be there to help you up when you understand that you have been duped.
What is interesting about Beck, is that you can feel that he cares. About me, you, the Country, the soldiers that fight for it , and he even cares for you that are filled with hate.
I am sure George Soros, or Moveon., Daily Kos, and all these others that you seek to find answer, one day, you will know that could care less about you . I know, I voted for this guy, and his false hope.
Today, and last night, I felt nothing but real hope, and the solution to the hate.
I have never felt more welcome, as a Black American than I have in the last 24 hours. There were many many people who had come, some from far away , that said the same thing. It was like being in the middle of friends you didn't know you have. It was awesome.
Nobody, including Beck, made themselves out to be a God, or a voice of god. It was individuals, 100's of thousands of them, talking to the god of their belief, in their own way .
So you can twist and turn , attack and ridicule, and there will be many like me, who finally see the hate mongers for what they really are, and today, I proudly and soundly, reject those that hate. You have your own agenda, one that I seek no part of. There were many , many like me today . I am on the side of the United States of America, and I am proud of it, and last night, left no doubt that I belong here, and was welcomed with open arms.
The hate only exposes you that do, for what you are . When you are ready, you will be welcomed also.
Oh, not single arrest, everyone stayed to pick up liter and such ( wasn't much ) and the Park Service Police were just fantastic. Many of them has tears in their eyes. Many said this was the most peaceful crowd they have ever seen. I want to thank them. True Professionals, nice people , and they were very helpful and appreciated.
Martin33189, I guess you don't use money either because it say's In God We Trust. That remark you made was really unpatriotic, and disrespectful. Is that what we teach our children today?
Janie: Martin is right, putting god on our money (blasphemy right there) and the pledge were added during the cold war...not at our country's inception. We don't need god in politics- it always ends up with Taliban or inquisitions or witch burnings, doesn't it? Booga booga hocus pocus!
I dont think many of you have made the equation that while we reject Obamas lukewarm version of capitalism and anti-americanism, we also reject the Republican open armed embrace of pure capitalism and corporate welfare for guys who want us to make $3/hr.
We need someone who protects our borders and interests, looks to infrastructure, regulates the corrupt and greedy, and either fixes social security or returns all the money we paid into that system. . A basic safety ney should always be provided for those unable to run the race. Anything else takes care of itself.
Bingo, Rock. These dysfunctional schoolyard 'dueling' August 28 rallies seem to be more about money. One group believes it is paying for everything and getting little in return, while watching an entire national culture slip into a morass of crime and vulgar sloth. The other wants to keep those federal assistance checks rolling in, inert generation after generation, while continuing to blame those who fill the federal coffers and pay for those endless handouts. Classic. Neither has enough depth - or intelligence - for more than an entertaining media circus. All the better these rallies were on the same day; two would be too much of an insult to common sense - the Tom Paine variety.
Religion, which ought be a private matter, is the public vehicle that both inarticulate whites and blacks abuse for their own purposes. This was likely inevitable, once religion became irreparably entwined with irreligious laws of the land and the fulcrum of the black civil rights movement. That religion has become such a fractured one-dimensional public spectacle for so many who merely seek to beat up others does more harm than good to every citizen, as well as to religion. Independents caught in the middle and who wouldn't be caught dead at either circus and are getting mightily tired of the ridiculous show.
Didn't we already see this movie: "A Face In The Crowd"?
How soon we forget. Only took this young country to go from this: Tom Paine = "All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." To everything that was blathered by Sharpton and Beck. My guess is that Canada is currently shoring up its immigration laws, lest Americans begin to flee en mass the raving maniacs of this truly screwed up country.
Who ever is overseeing this site, I have a question for you.
I never put anyone down, I do not swear, bold type, run to far off the subject (unless I need to to make a point about the matter that I am writing about)or any of the other silly things I see. But now I see that you have taken off my posts.
Is this supposed to be a civil discussion about political, religious, or philosophical ideas, or is this site just for people that agree with your outlook?
littlechanges I didn't know that tom paine quote- reminds how brilliant some of the men in France and America truly were in the 18th and 19th C. Where did all that political brilliance go?
"Divine providence"?????? Give me a break! If any god were really paying attention to the hateful and divisive message of Glen Beck there would have been a small pile of ashes on the podium from the lightning strike. Palin is also waiting for a message from God before deciding to run in 2012. How arrogant can they possibly be?
This thread is a waste of time given the number of comments that have been collapsed because of the easily offended, anti first amendment BSers on both sides of an issue. It's time for some of these whiners to put on their big girl panties or big boy boxers and deal with a difference of opinion.
If NV took the time to review how many had positive votes they would change their cock-eyed method of collapsing comments that are not profane or offensive other than they have a different point of view.
Martin you're quite right, Beck the kid is still very much a kid a troubled kid still using the name of the Lord in Vain.
Newsvine and other media are clever to put this article under politics even when Beck said that this march was non-political.. Put it under religion and there will not be so many boiled over comments.
But Beck was political, unable to help himself to say that MLK was a hero. MLK should be a martyr but god had as usual turned a blind eye on his servant. On the religious kick, the weekend event was a verbal war between two sects of christianity, religulous politics, under one god.
I've seen more detailed photo's. I underestimated the rally to be 325,000 - 550,000 it is more likely to be around 550,000 or greater. The entire area they used supports aroung 640,000 at 3 sf per person. These people were standing tighter than the building code value of 3 sf per person from the south tree line of the pool to the center of the trees on the field/park to the north beside the ponds. 550,000 was 3 sf per person reducing the field to the south to 75%.
You people amaze me. Glenn as been as critical of GWB as Obama. Obama blames Bush for everything. Have you all forgotten that Obama was a standing US Senator and they are the ones that create the agenda. How about you start checking Obama's voting record and tell me who is responsible for the past 4 years of insanity. People keep asking why the niece of MLK is there with Glenn - shes's a traitor for the cause. Maybe the traitors are the ones promoting hate speech. This is a rally not a demonstration and you should be asking yourself why am I not there too. Mormon agenda? At last count there are 6 different faiths present. You progressives are a joke and laughable.
jwhite...Could be. Isn't that the basic premise on how Bush got elected? The Republicans couldn't prove a single fact of Whitewater on either Clinton and spent $11 million taxpayers dollars on that hunt with nothing to show for it. So, they attacked from their next level: morality. Ergo, MonicaGate. That was the singular reason all of the Bible thumpers voted for Bush. Which only proves how utterly backward the red state moralists really are. All during the first 5 years of the Bush administration, one scandal of some sordid affair of a Republican was revealed after another.
The Republicans are desperate to finish what Bush started. Bush, more than any other president brought our government as close to the ideals of right wing plutocracy than any in history. Every piece of Bush legislation benefitted the wealthy. It's why in 2008, the GAO reported that 1% of the population was 11% wealthier over Bush's 8 years. Nothing trickled down, only up. And this is what the Christian moral values right wingers all want to return to. I get very suspicious when they start to get religion...it usually means they'll be passing the basket and stuffing those "tithings" in their pockets.
I asked the question because the whole thing -- the choosing of the venue, the day, the media attention and the counter rally -- seemed contrived. Not to say that Glenn Beck and Al Sharpton are in cahoots, but Glenn knew precisely the bait to use, Al took it, and he's got NBC on speed dial I'm sure. That way, Glenn gets free publicity for his non-political rally that invites his favorite political party and their favorite political figure.
To connect the dots seems fairly easy but I wanted to launch my hypothesis.
To ewent: I really hate to burst bubbles, but as much as people like to blame the Bush era on one sector of a political party, please do not forget that even though the first election win is in dispute the second one is not. The majority (or at least a vast number if you don't agree with that) of Americans voted for Bush TWICE.
On the other hand, I agree that the people who are coming to these rallies are the ones that make up the remnants of the now heavily fragmented religious right. I believe this was an effort to unite them before November and more importantly before 2012. However, I do not believe enough people belong to this segment have much commitment to each other as a party. If things go back to being prosperous (jobs return, money returns, etc) People will go back to barbecuing on the weekends and the Tea Party will disappear.
There were two dates that all the guests could be there. 9-28 was the first date. The "I have a dream" speech is not listed on most callenders (I checked). They had a follow-up meeting to possibly move the date to the alternate date after someone on staff discovered the significans, but decided not to use the other date.
I saw some video on this - that crowd was much larger than expected. I did not expect this to draw, but you never know. There were no protest signs of any kind, just american flags.
glenn beck, a true American Kook, Racist, Liar, and Alcoholic...who would listen to this guy?? If you want to learn about something, learn, read, educate, and study for yourself instead of blindly following the loud mouth, hate spewing, tardness, of a glenn beck type, dumbass!! i'm out, sheeple and here comes dumb (beck) and dumber (palin) leading the pack...hahahaaa
No conspiracy, just politics. People who win elections are the ones who can mobilize people to vote for them. Most politicians lose not because the opposition was stronger, but because their fans didn't care enough to vote. Cheerleading is necessary. So the rally was necessary.
DB Akron- Thank you! This is ridiculous. If you haven't said anything offensive or disrespectful, you shouldn't have your comments collapsed. It's getting petty.
It was the meeting after they originally set the date as 9/28. I don't know if that was a week later, two weeks later or a month later. I just happened to here Mr. Beck talk about the discovery and that they had decided to stay on that because they had already notified participants of the date. I happened to tune in that day because the local station programing was really bad.
So, alcoholism is the cause for Glenn's mental disabilities, eh? Well, Rush had his problem with synthetic heroin. I thought Glen was just your average paranoid. He should not be drinking alcohol with this condition. Is there a doctor in the house?
Unlike the elite HoWood celeb set, Beck has not been to rehab for any reason, nor is he having issues like Rush had with prescription pain killers. I have no idea what you are referring to!
Besides, Glenn is a Mormon, most of whom do not drink alcohol...
Glenn Beck converted to Mormonism during his rehab for alcoholism. But Glenn has been known to be: An ex-alcoholic (although by the way he gives criteria for some people never being able to have a different opinion on something than they did at one point in their life, it'd be fair to just call him an alcoholic), ADHD, and bi-polar. Those can all be found in most Glenn Beck bios.
Why is ever body so up set about Beck giving a speech at the Lincoln . It seems people look up to Martin Luther Kings but to me he was a whore monger and a hypocrite.The King family are a bunch of raciest people that live off of their daddy,s name and act like a bunch of thieves fighting over money all the time.
People is not upset at Beck for using Lincoln memorial (otherwise can be seen as racist). they are upset with the "message" that he has to offer to the American society in that particular spot of the American history.
Bama, you sound very racist on your comments about MLK family and you are open to everybody starts thinking that you no more than a racist that like to have back the status quo prior to the Civil Rights Law.
NH. is not liberals only who attack the grammar spelling of somebody when they disagree. Conservatives do that too. In you case, your intentional misspelling shows that you also have no idea on how to debate something so important without crediting the other part for their ideas. It may work, even if you don't like it
Have a nice day (if you can) and sorry for any misspellings, mine weren't intentional.
By the way, any ideas on how to bring back all the industries that we shipped overseas? On how to make the economy starts working when Corporations don't hire because of the sales, and people don't buy because of the hiring? ah ah ah!!! if you use the government you'll be called a liberal or a democrat.......
Have a good one (whatever it is, but have a good one)
why is that you libs will atak somones grama and spelin when you can't de-bait the isu i know al libs ar so mush mor smarter than dem that is no libs
Post #19 shows that Waiting for Nov. is anything but a lib... note to the not so bright, when attemping to pull off false-flag operations, don't be so @!$%#ing obvious.
Wonder who 2271348 I do not care who is speaking with him what I said was the truth do you not watch TV on all of the fighting the kings do over money and power?Martin and that goes for you also. Some times people just can not stand the truth.
Martin obviously has never listened to the Glenn Beck Program. If he did, he would see that Beck has spent a great deal of time lauding the merits of Dr. King and talking about the great good that he tried to do.
What's shocking is that one of Dr. King's children will be speaking at Mr. Beck's gathering today. I fear with this stunt, the King family has lost credibility. While the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, I'm saddened to see that Dr. King's offspring is allowing Mr. Beck to use them as a shield from the inevitable fall out that's due to come. He's gonna say, "See, even Mr. King's daughter is here today and she doesn't mind me disrespecting her father's anniversery." It's all political gamesmanship and he plays it well.....most of the time. He will eventually trip himself up on that awful tongue of his.
Those of use who know better will continue to choose not to listen to the poison Mr. Beck spews. In this respect, we're not liberals (the new four letter word), we're smart.
Seeing as one of Dr. King's children is speaking today, I would say that this is a tribute to her father, who also spoke of peace and God on that same site. Disrespecting King's anniversary????? NOT hardly...more like RESPECTING Dr. King. I'm wondering if you'd have no problem if Rachel Maddow or the Iman spoke at that site and on this day.
It just boggles the mind at how you are twisting this to fit into whatever your narrow mind will accept.
Smokey'sMom - No, the the King family lost credibility through those that have attached themselves to MLK's coattail and used it to make their own fame and fortunes. And I am speaking about the Jessee Jacksons and Farrakans of the world. The mis-use of the religious pulpit to divide the races through the use of racism to gain wealth and stature has blemished the name of MLK. These people could care less about the inequalities suffered within our nation unless they can make a buck or two off it. Lets see, what is the term that describes these people? Black Liberation Theology? As I see it, the American BLT originally intended to address the racial divide within the social and economic structures through political/religious/social activism. Its intended goals of racial, social and economic equality have been met years ago, but the goals today are a stark contrast to MLK's "I have a Dream" speech. To me and millions of Americans, one sentence in his speech defined his goal.
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.
Today MLK's goal has been realized. But the modern BLT has perverted it to continue the "struggle". All in the name of politics and personal wealth by the Rev. Wrights of the world. The BLT has attached itself to the progressive, socialist movement. Again in stark contrast to MLK's dream.
When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all men, yes, black men as well as white men, would be guaranteed the "unalienable Rights" of "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
If you will read the text of MLK's I have a dream speech, you will see that he promoted freedom and liberty through Democracy and not through the progressive socialist communist ideologythat the Democratic party is infected with today. This man loved his country and the Constitution. Not socialism. His concerns and activism were genuine unlike the civil rights leaders of today.
I think MLK's niece is trying to restore credibility to the MLK family name and his legacy that other zealots have perverted for their own personal gains by attending the Glenn Beck rally and speaking.
Listen to what Beck has to say but do your own research to draw a conclusion whether not not it is poison he speaks. And understand this, MLK's family have a lot of experience in the American political/social arena and are highly educated but are firmly rooted in MLK's vision of America. So there must be something to Beck's messages that resonate within the MLK family.
First, a correction. It was MLK's niece who was in attendance, not one of his children. That goes a long way in explaining why she would be there. King's children would be caught dead endorsing anything Beck has to say and this niece had probably been dying to cash in on her uncle's fame for years. Well, here was her chance and shame on her. It also speaks to how far Beck & Co. will go to gain street cred. for this whole debacle. Sorry, folks. It didn't work. Beck is still a false prophet who is illegitimate in the eyes of the religious establishment to speak to the masses the way he did, as he is not ordained to preach.
Second. To Aggie, Mickey and Mike, I know enough to form a perfectly intelligent opinion, like the one I gave previously and this one. I've corrected the one fact that needed correcting and I stand by MY OPINION, which doesn't require YOUR validation.
Good for you Smokey Mom. It boggles the mind how some people are so wrapped in religion that they can't see the forest through the trees and that they are being taken for a ride. How rich do Beck & Palin have to become before being labeled one of the "Liberal elite"???
I miss Jimmy Swaggert. Glen Beck though is a Ross Pierot of charts and exposition. Now, if Glen can get the crying thing down and start to play more into his vision problems, he could open up a casino for Glen's Kids, like Jerry's Kids only educating the masses about Glen and his struggles and how Glen found his way and how you to can find what Glen found like Tony Robbins only more god inspired like Paul in the bible story or maybe Augustine who said he needed more time to be naughty before being saved which could maybe be similar to what Glen is now doing which means that maybe he has discovered mortality and not morality although it may be the latter that will be his undoing like former President Clinton when Glen is either caught or falls like the preachy Pallin and her own family celebmare and cheap fame that will be so over the top complete with TMZ coverage. Can't wait.
Marsha, have you ever read Mein Kampf? Doing so might just open your eyes to how similar Beck and Mein Kampf are... and might give you some insight into where Beck would take us given half a chance.
JULIET Page one of the liberal manifesti, when aced with a statement or situation, that you don't like, but, have no facts to rebut with, ridicule, ridicule ridicule.
Yes, I've been drawing the Nazi comparisons for many months on various Newsvine boards and it's AMAZING how few people understand how close the similarities are. The Republicans and the Nazis are one and the same on nearly every single issue they stood or stand for, accept capitalism. The Nazi's were against capitalism, the Repubs are for it. That's small potatoes, thought, as all this stuff is actually very frightening, because if things keep going the way they are, we'll definitely be headed for another war, only this time, it will be a civil war.
This "On the Mall" crap is only the beginning, unfortunately. The true patriots will stand up and take these jerks out, but it's too bad more people didn't know sooner about the counter-rally that is also being held at the same time. I find it mind-boggling that two people (Beck/Palin) with no position in our government and no credibility are having so much influence on the people. It is a testament to how willing people are to follow, instead of critically think. It's exactly what the German people did in the years leading up to WWII. Pride also came into play, because they lost their a$$e$ during WWI and needed to save face.
Just think of all the lives lost due to pride and ignorance. Incredible.
Smokey's mom.... can you say BAAAAAAAAAAAAA ?? These people are mindless sheep being led to slaughter. Remember.. ignorance is bliss. Bid them good riddance... the edge of the cliff isn't far and the pit below is wide and deep :)
A fact is that Nazism and communism both have the same goal, Control of people and the means of production and if you really care to check, you would soon discover that the people favoring taking freedom from the American citizen are the Progressive liberals in the white house and in congress; they are the ones that more closely march to the tunes of socialism, communism and Nazism. They do like to try to shift blame by pointing at everyone else, but three fingers point directly at them. They are the biggest bunch of name callers around and they also throw the most lies out believing that if they repeat it often enough, someone might believe it to be truth, Hitler did that with his propaganda machine and now all one has to do is look at the current lame-stream media and what their political beliefs are to understand Obama's propaganda arm.
The mindless sheep being led to the slaughter are the ones who voted for President Obama in 2008. The writer of the Health Care Bill said he can't understand it and the Speaker Of The House says that it is to be figured out after passage and it was passed against the will of the people???
Craig....there are many good things in the Health Care Bill but it will take time to turns things around for the better. You people who keep screaming about going against the will of the people...where were you when we wanted an end to the Iraq war and Cheney & Co didn't listen because they didn't want to break off their money flow. It's unbelievable to me that you can't see that 2 wars and lowering taxes caused the huge deficit. Obama had to do something to not make our economy fall off the cliff and he has done so. It may not have been the best solution, but it was a solution nonetheless, something the Republicans DO NOT have. What honestly do you think McCain would have done? Please respond.
All this coming from a man who speaks the word of god , and them call the people pf Katrina who where left behind and I quote" scumbags" and the victums of 911 and there families he has about 10 of them he hates..come on people who is he kidding..HYPOCRITE!!!
That these two morons are the pride of the republican party is proof positive that it is time to euthanize the tired old elephant and move on to a party of realism. For Beck to embrace religion as his method to fame and fortune given his past and present actions is to present Jim Jones as the second coming of not God but Lucifer himself. Of course we all should remember the ingredients of Mr. Jones kool aid and the graphic images of the aftermath of following his learned consul. Come to think of it, Guyana would be a fine place for the separatist movement that Great American Sarah Palin represents. A true blue pair of patriots being put upon us after the Bush/ Chaney sell out to the house of Saud.
Are you saying that we should have a one party system in the US? That sounds like a communist viewpoint. Would you like to have free elections where there is only one candidate, the one that the "party" chooses. Please think before you post so you don't come off as an idiot.
At least they know how to spell!! I too am proud to be part of that party. Honesty and morality has always meant more to me than glitz and glammer. They also mean more to me than Obama, Reid. Polosi's and the rest of the socalists lies and half truths. Which brings me to a question. Why are the left wingers so fearful of the truth? Belief in God and his compassion and power to correct the wrongs may seem like folley to the fool but to those who see virtue and honor as something to strive for, those beliefs have more worth than any words may hold. Obama talks a lot because he has no idea how to fix the mess he has gotten us in. He blames Bush, but the fact is that our national debt has grown faster under Obama than any other time in history, and we have aquired more debt under Obama in his first 19 months than in the 56 years prior to Jan 20, 2009. But, fools never learn, so.......
we have aquired more debt under Obama in his first 19 months than in the 56 years prior to Jan 20, 2009.
The ridiculousness of that statement is beyond the pale... which indicates that you are a liar and lover of lies... which means that you adore the father of lies, which means you worship Satan. By their fruit shall ye know them and from this, I know that you sir, are not saved. You probably think you can put off getting right with God for a little while longer and do it later and still be ok... but I warn you this, the day of reckoning comes without warning for us all, and those who think they can put off getting right with God will come to be judged before getting right with God, and God will spit you out when you try to claim you knew Him, saying that while you drew near to Him with your lips, your heart is far from Him. This will be your last warning J-mac, repent and get right with God now.
People are making comments here based on absolutely no knowledge of the facts. Need I repeat - BECK IS NOT A REPUBLICAN - he's probably closer to a Libertarian.
Jmac- Libs don't believe in God. They worship Mother Earth, Allah or Budda. Whatever is chic at the time, or whatever Hollywood is doing. This is the most disillusioned crowd imaginable.
Troy that's not true. It's also none of your business who worships what. Who gave you the power to pass judgment? So i guess people who don't believe in your god are the lesser? Go read your bible and see what it says about that.
Liberals as you like to call them believe in religious freedom. We just want people like you to leave us alone and stop trying to force your ideals down our throat through public policy.
Beck was mentioned as a "Libertarian" on John Stossel's show on Libertarianism, but as a Libertarian I must come out and say he absolutely is NOT. Libertarians don't believe in shoving their brand of religion down other peoples' throats or a "Christian nation". If he were a Libertarian he would be for freedom of religion and respect other peoples' religious choices. Instead of talking about religion, he'd have spent the rally talking the whole time about adherence to the Constitution. While it's ok to not agree with every single party platform, freedom of religion is so paramount for the Libertarian party I don't think you can disagree with that one and reasonably call yourself a member of the party.
This is all about inflaming the nation and the people that will come out to this are 95% subscribers to the notion that America is for white people and only Christian white people. I cannot believe we have come this far to let the derranged lead us down the path of darkness.
tinman: Back to where? The Dark Ages? Nope, ain't gonna happen.
Let the religious right keep up its shenanegans. They're going to find out where "back" means, because the majority of us will not keep sitting by allowing this stupidity to continue. We're awaiting that "button" to be pushed. They're slowly approaching it and as soon as it's pushed, all hell's gonna break loose. The religious right (aka Republican Party, aka Tea Party, etc.) will meet its end, because it is an organized factory that pumps out false profits. Very soon, this country will be rising up to shut that capitalism worshipping (not Jesus) cult down for good.
Keep going "moral majority". Push that button of no return. Ronny Reagan is rolling over in his grave, along with so many other revolutionary Republicans who knew the difference between good governance and the proposed crap the new Republican Religious organization is about to impose on the masses.
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
tinman...People move forward not backward. When they try to recapture the past, it slips through their fingers faster than quicksilver. It is time to move forward. Not backward. It is time to correct all of the errors of the past and supplant them with newer better more prodigious ideas.
Frankly, those who want to take their country back...are really saying they want to take it back so they can have better or more control over the rest of us.
Tinman - from whom exactly do you want to take your country back? From me? Is it not my country too? When I hear this I hear the wailing of people who long for a time when minorities knew their places, women modeled themselves after June Cleaver and the WASPs ruled. Sorry buddy but you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube! It's MY country as much as it's yours and while I'm willing to share and compromise on certain policy issues etc. I can not and will not give your country back to you, because quite frankly...your country no longer exists!! It is our country now!
This is all about inflaming the nation and the people that will come out to this are 95% subscribers to the notion that America is for white people and only Christian white people. I cannot believe we have come this far to let the derranged lead us down the path of darkness.
Actually, if they're for a White America, then wouldn't they be against the path toward darkness??
Tinman - from whom exactly do you want to take your country back? From me? Is it not my country too? When I hear this I hear the wailing of people who long for a time when minorities knew their places, women modeled themselves after June Cleaver and the WASPs ruled. Sorry buddy but you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube! It's MY country as much as it's yours and while I'm willing to share and compromise on certain policy issues etc. I can not and will not give your country back to you, because quite frankly...your country no longer exists!! It is ourcountry now!
You're right. It seems this country isn't ours anymore. This once great country has been betrayed by its own leaders.
A country belongs to those who not only build it, but to those who will FIGHT to keep it. If the traditional Americans (White Anglo-Saxons) are unwilling to fight for it and hang leaders that commit treason against it, then we will get what we have today: A country of marxist, degenerate, welfare dependent, ignorant, high-tax-paying, enslaved mongrels with a doomed future.
Let me get this straight, tell the truth, have you ever listened to Beck or do you just listen to sound bites on liberal biased news outlets. Jon Stewart is a COMEDIAN, he gets paid to make people laugh. If your news gathering source is Jon Stewart you are the idiot.
I have listened to Beck for years and he has not change he is a fear mongering idiot, who distorts the truth in almost anything he says, and if you listened to anybody else you would know the difference. If you think America should be for white and whites only thats fine just say so but don't hide behind the constitution.
Perhaps you wouldn't mind telling us which episode of beck's, does he tell us america is for white's only. He posts all if his past episodes on line, so if you wouldn't mind telling me the date of that show, I would like to see it.
I don 't get into the whole religion thing, but what I DO like about Beck is that he DOES research his facts BEFORE he airs them. When he talks about politicians, he shows them in their own words, he doesn't just make up crap like most of the networks.
All I hear from these haters is what a liar he is, by all means, please give a real example and some link or date to your proof.
I saw the John Stewert episode where he made fun of Beck. He played sound bites of Beck telling us not to let the government control us or tell us what to do then Stewert played sound bites of Beck telling us what to do to keep our freedoms. Government telling me what to do and Beck giving advise as to what to do, are two different items. Becks advise, get involved, see what your kids are being taught, study a little history about the people we vote for. The liberals don't want any history, they pretend they are pro-black when they send civil counselors to blacks to encourage them to have abortions, "for the good of the country". Then you find out later that, "for the good of the country", ment to eliminate the black race. While I disagree with Bcek on the imigration stancem I hear his wake up call to america to get involved and study the issues.
Jon Stewart is a smartass comedian! and that is one problem if you get your info from that show,he is a typical elitist,secular,entertainer who thinks he knows more than the MAJORITY of the country, I may not always agree with everything thing Beck said or does but he has a point on so many issues and especially how some HONOR needs to be restored in the country. When is the last time any of you haters have talked to a vet and asked them how honored this admin has made them feel? I could list examples of the way the military has been dishonored by OBAMA but it would be too long. So ANYBODY that tries to bring this country back to what the CONSTITUTION and what being AMERICAN stands for has got my support,oh but I guess that just means I am a mice or a sheep or I drank the Koolaid, the typical liberal responses to people who love GOD and COUNTRY! but I think it is they who need to pull their colllective heads out of their and Obamas ass!!!
All the liberal types are now creeping out from beneath their little rocks and screaming about the untruths that are apparently Glen Beck's stock in trade ---- so without delay ..... HOW ABOUT CITING SOME OF THESE LIES SO WE CAN ALL SHARE IN THE WISDOM THIS DISCLOSURE WILL PRODUCE .
Here's your opportunity to defend your views -- tell us what lies Beck is spreading rather than the continued babbling that I see on this site. It is patently ridiculous .
Of course you can also blame G.W.Bush --- or perhaps you'd prefer to listen to Al Sharpton , or Jesse Jackson ... both of whom can't muster an honorable debate without inserting that ugly shadow of RACISM ....... DUH ....... and somebody talks about DUMB AND DUMBER ?
You got it pal . Take a look at the crowd that Beck generated and the joke that Sharpton attempted......and you'll see where America stands .
Beck rarely says anything negative unless he offers something that would be better. I rarely listen to him, and haven't listened to him in months, but have great respect for what he is doing. He researches things and points out the truths that people want forgotten, so they can create a new false truth. Those false truths are what we are being fed, and fed, and fed, so we won't recognize the real truth.
I agree! The only thing Obama "hoped for" is nobody find out he was and is lying about everything he said; like "no new taxes". "No government tax money to pay for abortions". yeah, right. Beck is a hero.
Hope and change are extremely abstract concepts. We've absolutely had change. It was never going to be the revolution that the radical extremes of either side thought it was going to be.
He definitely has given plenty of people hope. Hope that a half black man could be president, hope that things were going to get better... And you can argue that either way.
But ultimately, Lobo is right. Obama, president of the United States, does not use religion to further his cause. A quarter of the population is so stupid that despite overwhelming evidence, they believe that Obama is a Muslim, rather than a Christian, even after condemning his choice to attend the church of Rev. Wright for as long as he had.
If you don't like Obama, that's fine. But do it for the right reasons. Rational reasons. If you think that Obama is a Maoist, as Glenn Beck often says, which is to say that he believes in purporting to promote the advancement of the Chinese peasant and rural farm worker using a uniquely Chinese brand of Communism that entails a number of Capitalistic institutions... If you believe THAT, as Glenn Beck does, you simply have no idea what you're talking about.
Here is what i believe. No man including Obama can sit in a church for twenty years and listen to a minister without actually hearing what he is saying. He is what he was taught both as a boy when he was schooled in the Muslim faith and later by Rev. Wright who schooled him in Communist Socialist beliefs. If you were schooled in both things then you probably would be a Marxist Muslim. If the shoe fits wear it.
American Lobo: When Obama made the comment about the muslim center at ground zero during a Ramadan dinner he WAS USING RELIGION TO PANDER FOR VOTES! Are you lefties just so blind as to not see this. Use your head big guy!!
Actually, I don't think trying to improve relations with some of the people that are trying to kill us is pandering votes using religion. I think getting votes is the consequence.
Here is what i believe. No man including Obama can sit in a church for twenty years and listen to a minister without actually hearing what he is saying. He is what he was taught both as a boy when he was schooled in the Muslim faith and later by Rev. Wright who schooled him in Communist Socialist beliefs. If you were schooled in both things then you probably would be a Marxist Muslim. If the shoe fits wear it.
Well, since he was in Rev. Wright's Christian church for those years you state he was learning communism, wouldn't that make him a Christian-Marxist-Muslim under your theory?? Like you said, how can someone listen to something (Christian sermons) for twenty years without hearing what's being said? For that matter, wouldn't your theory mean that twenty years of sitting in a church would overwrite the Muslim teachings, leaving him a Marxist Christian, if anything. Either twenty years does or doesn't effect him, not both depending on what you want to be true for which thing he was supposedly taught.
At best, Beck is an egomanical showman milking his new found popular appeal. At worst, he is an egomanical hatemonger embarked on a crusade to transform America into something far different than a pluralistic democracy. His message, embedded in distorted and often blatently false religious and historic references, is really all about intolerance and the not so subtle racism of "us versus them." His version of American, if it ever existed, ended with the civil war.
I think you're right. They say this "rally" is not about politics. My question is: What is it about? What's the point in even holding it to begin with?
Lord help us all! I am watching Martin Luther King's niece, et.al. and cannot believe the irony and the extent to which some Black folks still carry the plantation mentality.
Mike, at best, you are full of s---. HATE, you don't have any idea what religion consists of, how can Beck be hating if he is saying for us to get ready and protect what we have in this country. You are so asleep that you haven't even noticed that our rights are fast leaving. Now, myself, one day soon I will be watching as you bow down to Jesus acknowledging him, you won't be on your high horse any more from that time.
and Obama is a great golfer...LOL on the tax payers dollar. He loves to spend our money where ever he wants without asking us where, when, and how. Beck at least works for a living and it's up to everyone (choice) to choose what, when, and how to buy. Beck offers freedom, Obama offers nothing but lies.
I doubt Obama has taken any more "vacations" at this point in his presidency, than any other POTUS. But thanks for trying to make an issue out of nothing.
And because Jones said it was in the past means that it's true. Ironic how you pick and choose what is the spoken truth and what is said in order to advance one's career...
How is that ironic, defined as "something other than the expected result"? The word's not applicable at all... Did you actually know what it even meant?
Because you were trying to make Beck out to be an alcoholic because Van Jones claimed he was no longer a Communist. When, in fact, Jones still practices his Communist ways through his speeches and actions. Hence, his resignation from the Barry Regime.
So, since you didn't expect Jones to still be a Communist (and he is) and didn't want Beck to be sober (and he is), it was ironic.
Irony is also a form of sarcasm and proof of other's expressed ignorance (which is why your statement was ironic). Glad you had to look up the meaning of the word, though. :)
Lol No, no he isn't. And you can't prove or verify either of those. If you think Jones is a Communist, that's a matter of opinion. A Communist is a person interested in a global network of Socialism.
If you're going to call Van Jones a Communist because of... whatever BS combination of "words and actions", and assume that he's a Communist because you're not willing to take him at his word that he's not, I can assume that Beck is an alcoholic based on his goofy, weird antics and erratic behavior.
And as we've seen, the Obama administration is constantly capitulating to various pressures from the Right wing, despite all of the nonsense they spew about how he's a dictator and blah blah blah... Ya know, the other made up crap, like the example you've just given.
If we're gonna throw out ad hominems, I'd like point out the "irony" of using a cliche such as "not a sheep" to convey that you think for yourself.
Lol again, do you have anything to back any of this up other than you want it to be true?
Progressives want, aptly enough, societal progress. On issues like race relations, gender equality, preventing "too-big-to-fail" institutions and monopolies... I mean, I don't know why I'm explaining this to you, because you've got a pre-conceived notion of what your idea of Progressives are from a fat, obnoxious morning DJ who likes to tell people that they shouldn't listen to X group because they're trying to run their lives, then proceeds to tell people exactly how they should run their lives.
No, I have no opinions one way or the other of any ideological label. I do find it wrong to achieve "societal progress" by means of taking from someone who has and giving to someone who has not. Especially when so many of those whom have not are third or fourth generation have nots and have no intention of having.
Charity is a great thing. My wife and I give more than we can sometimes afford to several charities in the area. But when the gov't decides for me what I should give and what I have to give, it is no longer a good thing.
Do you realize that it's been almost 40 years since FDR's Great Society and we (the taxpayer) are still shelling out billions to fund programs that do nothing more than keep people dependent on big government? When people figured out a way to live off of the gov't entitlements instead of using them as a temporary crutch, the progress in Progressivism failed.
By the way, other than the gov't controlling all enterprise, how is Progressivism different from Socialism? Or do Progressives believe in limited capitalism in order to have a demo to steal from in order to pay for their entitlements?
The direction that the Progressive Woodrow Wilson set us on has been a disaster. The Progressive Income tax was never supposed to never increase past 7%. The Progressive FDR's Social Security is anything but secure and through his extensive spending, the Depression was lengthened. As an excuse for the lengthened Depression, he raised the max tax to 24%. Do you see the platform in which Obama is working from here? LBJ's Progressive programs are seldom more than a money pit on the steps of every American's door. Obama's special interest ties to the Progressive movement have proved to be just as troubling. Tax the rich, the not so rich, and while we're at it, tax everyone else with an income but make sure we tell them that we're sticking to the rich, baby!
No fat guy, skinny guy, or Chinese guy has to tell me that taxing and spending America into debt to ensure that it's citizens rely solely on the gov't in order to ensure that government's power is insane. Social engineering by way of abortion, health panels, or taking from me and giving to you because I worked harder and/or made more money to support my family isn't Progressive, it's nothing more than gov't sponsored theft.
If, by definition, "pre-conceived notion"means opinion based on historical facts, then I guess I do have a pre-conceived notion that Progressivism is just a nice way to tell those havesthat we're coming for you. History has proven it for 80+ years.
The old "give" to someone who dosent have is crap anyways. By giving constant hand outs you are just enabling someone (or a group) to be lazy. The old saying "teach a man to fish...". I totally agree, if you work hard and earn your keep, you should keep it. No one is going to come into my home and tell me that i have to give a portion of what i earn to some garbage down the street just because they say so. I give to many groups as well to help those that truly need it. Not just some family of welfare bums that feel they are entiltled because they produced a large family and sat on thier tail.
Oh and thank you so much GODLY One...And may you sit in the right hand of GOD and be the judge of all others...Because you are so wise and righteous...Calling others garbage just makes you sound like white-trash...And no doubt you are...
Who said anything about God, has nothing to do with it. It has to do with hard working people that wake up every morning and go to work and build themselves a nice life. Then those people are told that just because someone who does nothing is entitled to a portion of what is made just because they exist, is well crap. Seeing I got your panties in a bunch i'll use a different phrase than "garbage", how bout, lazy whiners that cry if they dont get their handouts?? How bout that? Oh and white trash dosent offend me, or racist or lefty or righty, or any other creative terms some blogger on the vine comes up with. I wouldnt call it judging, i would call it not wanting to support the deadwood anymore. I dont think that is much to ask...
Hidden, You have made a judgment about people, that you really do not even know. You have lumped anyone that is a Democrat or liberal as someone who is getting government handouts. That is so far from the truth. Maybe where you live and the circles you run with that is true, but where I live and the circles I am in, that is the opposite. My husband and I worked for over 70 yrs. combined between us. We are college graduates and no we do not think we are elite, just were fortunate enough to go to school to enable us to have a better life. We went without govt handouts. We had 3 sons, who we raised and educated. We are now retired, and we do not owe anyone. We planned very carefully for our retirement, and though we are not rich, we are comfortable. We both feel that because of the advantages we've had, from our educations and our careers that we owe a great debt to those that are less fortunate than us. We volunteer with CASA and are very active in our community, church and family. We really get tired of being called all the names that people such as yourself, who do not know any of us, just because we differ with you politically. We do not want your money, nor need it. But the amazing thing I discovered while I was an RN for over 30 yrs was all of us go out of this world the same way we came in, in our birthday suit and taking nothing with us. You can lecture and rant about people that you have no idea about, but I say to you, take care of your own self and if you can live with what you do, so be it.
I was not lumping an entire group together, just the few that feel they are "entiltled". I too give to many charities and try to help my fellow man if it is asked of me. But i would rather give to a charity such as a family that just lost the house in a fire down the street, than into a pot that is divided for people that dont even lift a finger to try to contribute. I too have worked hard, raise a child (congrats on your 3) and do what I can to help where I can. I understand my bluntness comes across as a selfish or elitist attitude. But it is far from that. I am not pleased with the direction we are ALL headed, and it is due to a major drain on the systems that were put in place for people that truly needed help, and now sadly are being exploited by those that take advantage of it. I am not lecturing anyone. I, as all of you on this site am expressing my beliefs and opinons as I see It, and I in turn respect yours. :)
All this debate about muslim temple at the sit of 9-11 and the Beck rally, what people dont understand is that religion is a divider, all this my god is better than yours has been starting wars for 1000's of years, its time to drop these wishbook fantasies and let humanity progress for the good of humankind. I vote no religion for 2012.
Life it self is a divider. Famly in fighting. Countries and Nations are divided. Races are divided. The whole world is divided in more ways then these. That is the difference between evil and good. Leaving religion out is not the solution either but love is and where is it? Hardly ever seen. Hate for everything imaginable is the mode of this world, where ever you live there is hate or love, each of us must decide what which we perfer. Life will be better for it. God perfers love and satin perfers hate. Love will always win.
I agree, Jesus Christ is not a religion, He is a person, who died for all of humanity. He is God the Son. Over 500 witnesses saw Him after He rose from the dead as He appeared through the following 40 days. Oh, wait! unless the liberals revisionists took that out of history too. There's now, even a dial-a=prayer for atheists. You call a number and nobody answers. That's UR wasted life with a bad ending.
You have hit the nail on the head so to speak...Most Americans (75%+) are not bible carrying church going members...And even their #'s are dwindling...Thank GOD...Religion and state must stay separate for any country to exist without the few controling religion for all...
I'd really like to see where you're getting you 75+% numbers from. I personally think you're full of it. Even prominent atheists still believe we are predominantly a Christian nation (meaning most people believe in God and Christ).
76% of Americans, when asked, will identify themselves as "Christian."
44% of those Christians consider themselves Evangelical or "Born Again."
33% of those Christians are Catholic.
8.5% of those Christians are deistic, i.e., God is not a personal God, but an unknowable force.
15% of Americans, when asked, will identify themselves as "Atheist," "Agnostic," or "no religion." This has almost doubled from a similar study in 1990.
(source: American Religious Identification Survey (ARIS 2008))
As far as actual attendance, get ready for this; it's anyone's guess, but it's probably less than you think.
The Institute for Social Research's World Values (U Mich) in 1977 reported that 44% of Americans attended church.
The Barna Research Group reported in a 2005 study, "47% of American adults attend church in a given weekend, not including a special event such as a wedding or a funeral."
Gallup Polls for the past several years have reported roughly 38% to 44%.
HOWEVER (and here's the kicker)
In 1998, two reporters for a Christian magazine, C. Kirk Hadaway and P.L. Marler, conducted a reasonably intensive study to find out how many people might be *lying* about having attended church. They found that as much as HALF were mis-reporting their attendance. Their article can be found here: "Did You Really Go To Church This Week? Behind the Poll Data"
So while 75% is, in truth, NOT a supportable statistic, it really may not be far off from accurate. The only claim fully supported by polls is that more then 50% of Christians freely admit that they do not go to church every week.
Actually if he meant those who don't attend church, I can buy that. A lot of people who believe are more and more jaded with denominational religion, and thus just choose to observe from home. I know I have taken that route after feeling overly judged at church for most of my life. Also, you have the mega church swindlers stealing seniors paychecks for vials of miracle water. All in all, organized religion has turned into a charlatan's game. My family and I observe our religious rites at home, and I don't feel any less religious because of it.
My family and I observe our religious rites at home, and I don't feel any less religious because of it.
Now on THAT, Gharms, you have my full agreement and support.
I, too, have observed the purity and strength of small community churches (of ALL denominations) become weakened by those who have exploited religion to their own ends. I have had a number of friends, deeply religious and dedicated to their Christian faith, who have been deeply disappointed by their apparent inability to find a good church or parish.
Now, I often attend services at any given Universalist/Unitarian church. Most often, they would be small organizations in small towns. I've met a number of of Christians (for the sake of argument, let's consider them 'mainstream' Christians) who would occasionally attend services there. They often do not fully agree with Universalism, but rather prefer the strong sense of fellowship and community which is fostered there.
If there is haven and hell then Glen Beck is going to hell. He has broken all the ten commandments.
He does it everyday. So for you people thinking you believe in God. Just go read the commandments. If you have have read the Bible he is the false preacher who uses Gods name in vain and you the followers will go to hell with him.
wow! a genius in the making. "pants on the ground". If one breaks even 1 commandment the cost is death. So how can U get to the next commandment if you break even one? duh! If UR gonna pontificate from UR paper throne, do UR homework. The ten commandments don't save U. It points out what a wretch U are. Just like civil laws. It tells U, for example, don't rob a bank, you'll go to jail. Does it save U? No, it informs U of the consequences if U break the law. Read the Bible. It is written, "All have sinned and all have fallen short of the Glory of God." That encludes you, buddy.
Glenn rocks!
"...principles and values and, most importantly, of God"
Yes Lincoln was a republican that wouldn't recognize the republican party today. Like Jefferson and Madison, they advocated specifically for the SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. Without ANY question what-so-ever.
Clearly, Glenn's attempt to rewrite history will only succeed in the weak minded.
If you believe that Beck represents anything other than the corporate greed that sent this great country into it's current downward spiral, you deserve everything the "Tea Party" will bring to you. Where is the backing from his own church? The Mormans have all but completely disavowed everything this moron espouses or stands for. Wake up people! Beck, and more importantly, Fox News, are not real! Phony stances, made-up stories and out-right lies that are intended to do one thing, MAKE RUPERT MONEY!!! Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Know what that is? It's the last sound you will hear as the cliff looms!! Dopes!
Me thinks you should study up on the founders and their ideas concerning God and Country and government. Try reading their own words rather than someone's interpretations of their words. You will also find the true context of the so called separation of church & state - I also suggest reading just the 1st Amendment to the Constitution = Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; Note, nothing about Freedom of or from Religion, no words about spearation of church and state...
Point of fact, the founders had sermons before the whole body of Congress, in the Capitol building.
Try reading the Constitution of your own State - all 50 State constitutions reference in some way God in the preambles or the first few paragraphs as the giver of our rights and liberty. 9 of the original 13 states had official state religions. If there was to have been as you say "separation" I would think that those who created our Republic might have said when these states applied to join the Union - "wait you can't mention God, can't have official religions, ets" if they had intended such an interpretation. Tennessee became a State when George Washington was still president - state constitution prohibits atheists from holding public office.
I think you are the one attempting to rewrite history as the facts in no way shape of form support you contentions
I've read their words. Franklin dropped out of college because he was not religious and did not want to study religion. Jefferson removed every reference of Jesus' divinity from the bible (they call it the Jefferson bible). They were deists, not Christians. Much as they witnessed the tyranny of the British government, they also saw the inquisition wrapping up and dealt with superstitious people who did things like acuse each other of being witches and start hanging and burning folks. No, Still Black, many of the founding fathers were not Christian and some even bordered on hostile towards it. Their own words (not someone's interpretation) back this up. Do a google search on Madison or Jefferson or Payne and Religion and see what you get back.
@Still Black
This is your interpretation and influence from religious teachings. You don't have to look deep. We're talking about 'the founders' that left religious persecution from England.
Try RE-READING their own words, or perhaps JEFFERSON'S BIBLE to clue in. Jefferson, like Madison had always been concerned about church influences on learning and the warping you're clearly displaying.
you are so right still black
" In God We Trust" does not sound like separation to me!!!
I can also say if Palin runs for president Obama will again be a shoe in!!!!!
This person does not speak for me. His party does not speak for me. He is a hate monger who spews forth verbal crap, supported by the corporate money bags who really run this country.
@Marsha
"In God We Trust" does not bind a state or particular church. Let it be clear, your religion doesn't define everyone's god. Period.
Glenn Beck uses the phrase "wake up, America." I noticed this identical phrase has often beem used by the Klan--for year--as code words for "White America". But, could this just be another mere coincidence on poor, innocent Glenn's part? Is he just a misunderstood misfit? Gee, I really don't think so, anymore. This freak seems to be actually pushing for racial violence. And, it's really about time that the Feds stepped in, and shut his sick operation down, before he incites actual racial violence.
This is hillarious considering that Glenn is a Satan worshipper.
I love this articals sources of retort to this rally, Al Sharpton and a conservative bloggers comment.......
Pa-@!$%#in-thetic
I would have absolutely LOVED to see what Bill Hicks or George Carlin would have said about Glenn Beck today. But I assume it wouldn't be much different from what has been said before: this is the same ol' song and dance, over and over again. The "moral majority's" disgruntled left-overs. If you're not with us, you're against us. Apparently Glenn thinks he's Jerry Falwell now too, with his message of restoring God and faith, and morals and principles to our great country. Note to Beck: those morals and values, and/or faith in God never left the country, its just that we don't subscribe to the distorted messages of unity that you and your ilk cling to.
I hope you are being sarcastic, defender. Otherwise, what you are saying is VERY SCARY!!!!!!
I guess tomorrow we get a measure of just how big the Beckerhead herd is.
That's odd, because he has consistently spoken against violence. Odd too is the fact that Alveda King, MLKJ's niece, will be speaking at the event and has appeared several times on Glenn's show. Could it be that you simply missed that part from watching Maddow, Olberman, and reading Think Progress?
Glenn Beck accuses God of backsliding? That's terrible! Now a question for the physicists:
How likely is it a black hole will open up at the Lincoln Memorial due to excessive concentration of density, and could it cause the end of the world?
Agreed, wish I could be there. He is doing a great thing. Really sad what others are saying. Unfortunately it is all out of fear and ignorance. The louder the screaming of racist remarks makes me feel so sorry for someone to be so miserable. I am certain the turn out would be even bigger if people had the time and finances to get there. Guess what I fear most for Nov is voter fraud and the gov finding a way to not count all of the votes. We know how the majority feels there is just no denying it.
Its "In God We Trust" - NOT In Jesus We Trust. Every religion has a GOD. This country was founded on freedom from religious persecution. The pilgrims were fleeing religious persecution.
When I read hateful things like what thedefender just spewed, it scares the heck out of me. That kind of intolerance smacks of the kind of insanity that swept through Germany during thier financial crises during WWI-WWII. The words Nazi and Hitler are too charged and overshadow the political situation in Germany that led to that horrible regime. We need to understand the political underpinnings that led to what we universally can agree was the embodiment of an entire society turned murderous and insane.
Sorry tea partiers, but your rhetoric is much more in line with the fledgeling National Socialist German Workers' Party than it is towards any other kind of thought, religious or political.
If this movement manages to gain any kind of control within governance we will be in serious danger of repeating dark moments in human history. One of the primary planks of the National Socialist German Workers' Party was restoring a German culture they felt was being corrupted by "godless elements"; to restore honor to Germany, after a crushing defeat in WWI and resulting economic crisis. The common man of Germany turned on not just Jews, but every other group of people they perceived as foreign to Germany. Catholics and Gypsies amongst others also were rounded up by the German Government.
One thing is definite. History repeats itself. The Tea Party is attracting the very same personality type that flocked to the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
What started as the Workers Party in Germany eventually grew to be known as the National Socialist German Workers Party, or NAZI Party for short. How much longer before the Tea Partiers decide to become more formal and call themselves the National Republican Tea Party? When Adolph Hitler first attended a Workers Party meeting, he was worried that it would be some communist liberal leftist group because of the word socialist, but was "pleasantly" surprised to find that the group, that met in a beer hall, were blue-collar racist men who blamed thier financial woes on the downfall of German culture due to Godless and usurious foreigners in thier midst - the Jews. Hitler took that group of economically challenged disgruntled men and whipped them up into a murderous frenzy of organized brutality and intolerance.
Let us acknowledge frequently and loudly the fact that this Tea PARTY is marked by a sea of intolerant white anglo-saxon faces. You would be hard pressed to find a Jewish person, or many people of color in these crowds. That is not a coincidence. Religious intolerance and racism is a significant part of this group.
Its unfortunate too, because we do indeed have a problem in our government. But its not the one that this group is organizing against. We need a truly democratic (meaning of the people - not just the judeo christian ones) movement to protest what is hurting this country. The Fed, corporate cronyism, deregulation, tariff issues. What is harming this country has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with Power, corruption, and money.
JJ The Kennedy Center event was one of the most powerfull things I have ever seen. I have been around a while to. As usual, the article totally misrepresents what the event actually was. Everyone had tears in their eyes.
I have been up since 5:00am and watched bus after bus, and throngs of people coming to the mall. Non-stop. They were coming when we got out of the Kennedy Center. The desk clerk said there wasn't a room for miles around, even deep into Va.
This is truly something, something wonderful is happening, you can feel see and hear it everywhere.
May not be here physically, but we all know someone who could not come, but trust us, you are here with us.
Absolutely amazing...
Thanks Al for being anti-American. The AZ law is to protect American citizens civil rights. The US govt. is the one who is not upholding US citizens civil rights.
Glenn doesn't rock - he has rocks in his head! Beck claims he is reclaiming rights - ask yourself which rights you have lost. None right? He has no basis for his claims. And the anti-tax issue is ridiculous - we have the lowest taxes we've had in decades. If you lower taxes any futher we will run out of money for roads, bridges, police, firemen, etc. How are we supposed to pay for those?
Wake up America! Beck is using you to get what he wants, mainly attention and money.
Baggers, Birthers, Buffoons, Lesbian Bondage Freaks, Toe Tapping Men's Room Commandos and Illiterate Drama Queens make the Greed Over Patriotism economic terrorists the minority party they are today.
They are like the Wasilla Hillbilly's.......normal Americas are sick of them but you can't get them to shut up. God bless their pointy little heads, I wish they had something shiny to play with.
To all you anti-Beck haters out there in a America, you are so quick to judge him and insult him. Yet I don't see you people or MSNBC trying to do something positive to help this country. All Glenn Beck wants to do is bring hope and honor for the country he loves. The main reason is because of the way this government of ours has lost its way and how they are destroying it. But I have to say this for MNSBC they must be really jealous of Beck to give him all this publicity by talking so much about him. MSNBC cannot control themselves and for this network to keep trying to knock him or bring him down, I guess Beck hit a nerve. So maybe some truth from Glenn Beck is whats really happening to this country otherwise MSNBC or the liberal media wouldn't be acting like idiots.
No I am not a tea bagger or a Republican , I am a proud Conservative Independent thank You before you ignorant people are quick to judge me.
Glen Sucks!!!
My God people oops, sorry, separation of church and state means the government cannot impose an official religion. That's it! Read the Federalist Papers and you'll understand what the framers meant.
You people are so funny. Seriously, you stand behind god and preach values, then spew hate towards other religions. Yeah, god would have taught that, right? (Please note sarcasm).
Now Glenn Beck, let me guess, god forgave him for his sins while he was a drug addict, he has a recorded history of mental illness, and he is your hero? Oh wait, did god cure him? He is favored by god, while all the starving and sick children in the world are let to die?
Let's not forget the "Beauty Queen", who still writes notes on her hands as reminders (Yeah, I did that in grade school too). Oh yeah, I'm impressed. Let's not forget how much of a quitter she is, quit mid term as a governer because things weren't going her way. Yeah, that's what I look for in a leader! (Yeah, more sarcasm)
I'll agree that nobody is perfect, but following these two shows lack of good judgement. I'm not saying the right or left is better than one or the other, I'm just surprised how many people actually fall for this garbage from these two lunatics.
It's interesting to note the kind of comments the "community" is into collapsing today. Have a nice rally.
People who want to stifle the righties today are afraid of what they might say.
founding principles of integrity, truth and honor
Honor Military and others???
Please !!! I am a 20+ year retired Army veteran, do not include me in your ( Beck ) rendering unto me any of your honors. ( I already know what founding principles of integrity, truth and honor are ) You stand for nothing that I believe in and you are way more dangerous to me and the Nation then even Obama could ever hope to be. I believe in God, but my friend (Beck) you really seem to come across like you are God sent, the new savior. You are so hateful in everything you say and do and act.
You sure do not represent the America I believe in and served for and bled for.
IN GOD WE TRUST, was added to our paper money in 1957! . . . and BTW it does sound a little bit like the "GOTT MIT UNS" or "GOD WITH US" that the nazis used to wear on their buckles.
Only ISLAM. Just the religions that want to kill us all, I mean everyone of us who are not Muslims. God doesn't expect Christians, Jews to kneel down and let the Muslims cut our heads off... He expects us to FIGHT and defend ourselves, read the Quran and you'll see what the goal of Islam is, its to conquer the world, there is nothing else they want more, to dominate the world with Shariah law! And God will help us defend ourselves from them...
Get your facts straight buddy. Glen Beck is a honorable Christian who loves God and this country. People like you are the reason he feels he needs to make this speech. People like you have no honor, integrity or respect for this country or God, this country was founded on the principles of God and is solely responsible for its great success whether you like it or not.
Pull a quarter out of your pocket and read "Out loud" what is written to left of George Washington's head. "In God We Trust!" Thats what it says, its on all our money, has been for over 200 years, its written on all of our government buildings, its on the wall behind the judge in state and federal courts. Our nation was founded on Christian beliefs and principles and this country is turning away from God, the same God who has had his hand over us, protecting us for 250 years!
He says in the bible. "Any person or country, who turns away from me, I will give them a depraved mind" Thats exactly whats happening to this country now. A depraved mind means a mind that cant make rational decisions, everything is backwards. A person with a depraved mind cant even take care of their own basic daily needs of survival.. Get it? The further away this country as a whole turns away from God, the worse this country will get.
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Sweet mother of God - Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, the Tea Party, the GOP and all the peopl who ACTUALLY believe this demagoguery have lost their F*#$@@% minds!!!
They have:
1. No clue about American history
2. No clue what the Constitution says
3. No clue that they are exactly the same as the taliban, only Christian
4. Forgotten what it means to be an American if they think everybody must conform to their values and belief systems.
Yeah, they have a right to their opinion and their rallies - I just can't believe that supposedly educated and intelligent people ACTUALLY believe this crap.
td3k wrote: Yeah, they have a right to their opinion and their rallies - I just can't believe that supposedly educated and intelligent people ACTUALLY believe this crap.
You have identified yourself very well. You clearly lack both intelligence and education.
I just don't understand how they put religious and gun in the same sentence.I also don't think God was no where around when this nation was founded.Ever commandment in the bible was violated and all the crimes that was committed against the native people was not supported by some white God. American people trying to clean up with a dirty rag. America is dirty rag in how it has stoled land here in America even the island of Hawaii. We have even taken countries. We have also used races of people to satisfy our greed we used the chinese to build our railroads, we then pass the chinese removal act to rid them. We used slaves to farm our land and we would have sent them back, if it had not been for the civil war, and just recently they used the illegal immigrants to build the houses and malls and now we are trying to send them back. Just take a look at history we have the robber barrens of the 1900's in the north and the south, such as Pullman car company, Andrew Carnegie,Cornelius Vanderbilt, J.P. Morgan, Jay Gould, and John Rockefeller are the wealthy few that controlled the American economy and became known as Robber Barons, a moniker which accused them of concentrating their wealth and power through manipulation and abuse of power. There is no difference today except the Robber Barons is world wide with different names, however they are still getting wealthy off the backs of the ones without.
WOW so beck thinks he's a messiah now!!! His limited radio fame has gone to his head and he's drunk with power. He's doing this for MONEY and POWER, it has nothing to do with country. This is the start of becks holy war against America and hopefully no one will die...today...
I'm que er but he is plan weird. Cockoo Cockoo
If this movement grows in power and strength they will become a domestic enemy. Then we got problems. I for one will not follow this kind of leadership. I will die before i give in to this Beck National Republican Fascist Party.
td3k- You are a complete moron to compare this crowd to the Taliban. I honestly don't see Beck poisoning little girls trying to get an education, executing women for showing their faces in public, stoning young couples to death for dating outside their clans, or beheading innocent Christians and Jews just for being in Afghanistan.
I've dealt with the Taliban, you obviously haven't.
wolf chad, not to worry all these split parties do is split the vote and they never win. YEA!
I see so many hypocrites on these pages. You actively support a mosque near Ground Zero for the Muslims to practice their religion.....yet you get all pissy about a Christian speaking and rallying for America at a hallowed American location. Oh the hue and cry about FREEDOM TO PRACTICE ONES RELIGION...so it's just for Muslims?? Was not Dr. King a REVEREND? Didn't he invoke God in his speech at that location? Wasn't he praying for a better America and Americans? Some say Beck is being racist by using the same location as Dr. King. How about REV. Al Sharpton. How about REV. Jessie Jackson. Religion is okay for them prostelitize about...but not for anyone not a liberal?
What's so terrible about wanting to incite this country to clean up our acts, and rally in support of our troops...black, white, male, female, Muslim, Asian, Latino.... Yet, WHO does this generation worship and emulate??? Athletes, rock stars, Hollywood elite....so many of whom have none to little of a moral compass. WHO do people criticize? Christians, police officers, hard working and successful citizens, people who want to clean up America's values..... Something is VERY wrong with that picture. America is hardly recognizable anymore.
Bill Hicks and George Carlin must be writhing in their graves.
I'm OK with George Carlin doing a bit of "writhing." His anti-American so-called comedy had me cringing for the last decade of his life.
Since when do we set our standards on what comedians and entertainers would think?
Boy the haters are out in full force today! Sad................
Beck reminds me of what Father Charles Coughlin did during the Great Depression. He riled anti-semitism, he held rallies, he did his best to scapegoat minorities for the struggles of the 1930's. He was what Glen Beck is. The difference is Glen Beck lives in an increasingly brown and black America. He can stand on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, but he can't maintain white domination of America. The demographics are against him. Just think how many of the old white folks in his crowd will die of old age before 2012. And one out of every two of those old white people will be replaced with a brown or black 18 year old.
So the question is, what will all those new 18-year-olds think of all this?
The people who hate Beck, are "paid political haters". It's an old Nixon trick ....
This is amazing! 300,000+ in attendance, 100,000+ on live facebook feed and countless others on C-Span 1, yep, I think we are taking back America!
Let FREEDOM Ring!
just because you collapse posts, you cant collapse our voice on Election day!
You're a racist and don't know it dimwit.
RoosterboyRestored
Glenn Beck uses the phrase "wake up, America." I noticed this identical phrase has often beem used by the Klan--for year--as code words for "White America". But, could this just be another mere coincidence on poor, innocent Glenn's part? Is he just a misunderstood misfit? Gee, I really don't think so, anymore. This freak seems to be actually pushing for racial violence. And, it's really about time that the Feds stepped in, and shut his sick operation down, before he incites actual racial violence.---------------------------
Your conclusion is just downright stupid.
300,000+?!? You dirty liberal. I counted 600,000+. Quit trying to denigrate our great leader.
What everyone is missing, the right is fed up with government not doing it's job; the left is fed up with government not able to solve any problems, and the independents are fed up with both; Washington still does not get the message, our Government is out of touch with the American people, they just don't get it, YET!
America rocks and so do the brave men intoduced by Sarah Palin at the Honor America Rally in DC during Air Force week. Stop living in the past...Bush in over, Irag is over, Hilter in over, slavery is over...pick up and get with the program...it's about now and today!
Well, I was gonna go until I found out there were no beer tents.
I do not know where most of you have gotten your facts about the role of the church in the constitution framers minds. I did a term paper on it when I was in college and found that if you read the writings of John Adams and his son you will see that there was to never be a nationally sponsored religion, but it was intended for religion to work with the government to supply help for people that were in need. Social Security, welfare, foreign aid, and all the other programs that we have in place to make people dependent on the federal government was never the intent of the founding fathers.
I find it interesting if people do not agree with the liberal point of view then we are seen as ignorant, yet if you look at polling that has been done lately over 70% of Americans consider themselves conservative (in reality they are really moderites).
The hate towards Glen Beck is usually taken by the crowd that has taken stances like the federal government. I think both need to read laws before making comments or judgments, and also I would suggest that you watch and study what one believes before you make remarks about an individual.
Long live Glenn Beck. He scares the hell out of liberals and plainly points out their malicious social agenda for all to see.
We have a reformed alcoholic here. Almost every reformed alcoholic has attributed his recovery to a religeous awakening. Beck, in his own words, has pointed out that he has no care for politics. He has proudly pointed out his use of the media to make himself rich through his many separate business activities. He has discovered that he can get people to listen to his rhetoric and send him money, by the ton. He doesn't even believe his own rhetoric, but it sure is making him wealthy. Human personality is an interesting subject. If you invent a religeon and tie up most of the loose ends in your logic, you can get enough people to follow you that you can live in luxury for the rest of your life and have enough to pass on that lifestyle to your family after you die. If Beck wasn't a hipocrite, I might even follow him, but he has too many times drifted into moral extremes that give him away. He has always pulled back from the cliff by suddenly rejecting violence after he has whipped up a frenzy, and other like moves. He has a staff that analyzes the mood generated by each show and fine tunes the next show with that information. He is P.T.Barnum of the Boob Tube and all the fools are being separated from their money by a good show.
Agreed USA. I guess Nancy Pelosi was wrong about the tea party
being "astro turf". Real grass grows as has this movement. God bless Glenn Beck and God Bless America!
If you want to restore honor to America, stop following right wing haters like Palin and Beck. Both are in it for the money and power, and neither has a clue what it means to be a true Christian.
How can Glen Beck lead a religious revival when he is not an ordained minister of any kind?
Thankfully, the founders created the United States as a secular country whose government and laws are in no way based on the christian religion.
As we get closer to the November elections, isn't it interesting that more and more Americans believe that Obama is a closet Muslim? ...and it's folks like Glenn Beck that are propagating this nonsense....which is spread over hundreds and hundreds of websites and after a while it begins to seep in. Then the old adage about repeating a lie over and over and over proves its merit. This methodology of starting with a conclusion and fashioning the facts around totally partisan mud-slinging is what the conservatives have now been reduced to.....but unfortunately for Democrats, this kind of crap works, because most Americans refuse to even take the time to research facts and having a open mind to the outcome....so not only are Americans ignorant of the facts, but they are becoming increasingly WILLFULLY ignorant of the facts......conservatives are proud of this? From the health care debate (death panels) to the Iraqi conflict (Saddam was directly involved in 9/11), to this ridiculous Tea Party/Birthers movement.....the list goes on and on......conservatives seems to rely on willful ignorance and adamantly refuse to alter their opinions when facts are presented in a reasonable manner.....it just amazes me.
Further up the chain here, someone signing in as "Ben" made a comment about Beck worshipping Satan. I've seen nothing to support this, but he is a Mormon and my sister's pastor told the congregation that the Mormons worship the Devil. I'm not a Mormon and, while I can not accept their theology, I know they do not worship the Devil.
Maybe Beck thinks he is "the Prophet yet to come". Ask your Mormon friends who that is. If he is, I'll be looking for some other god to help us. Maybe in the Celtic pantheon.
While I'm at it, would all of you please stick to posting about the issue under discussion and not clutter up the board with insults and personal blasts. We are adults, aren't we? Flaming other people in the discussion is juvenile behavior. Would Jesus approve? Or Beck?
I never even watch the Glen Beck show, but I can tell whose side I'm on by reading the hateful comments by the leftist America-haters.
I love to watch the anti-American commies squirm. Just when they thought they had everyone brainwashed with their Marxist propaganda, some pesky conservative shows up and draws a HUGE crowd.
I'm not even religious, but it's inspiring to see so many supporting the fight against the neo-Marxist anti-American juggernaut that's pushing us toward the drain.
@Roosterboy -- here at the Lincoln Memorial and elsewhere, slogans from these groups of 'restore America' 'win/take back our country back' 'states' rights' etc., etc. are eerily similar to the diatribe of Wallace/Goldwater/Nixon years ago...scary how powerful fear can be
Lol, so speaking out against Beck's little Nuremberg re-enactment desecrating Martin Luther King Jr.'s legacy makes us anti-American?
You've got some serious adjustment issues, Machinehead
wdill...that was an impressive piece of babbling there...thanks for the laugh
Nice try, but "In God We Trust" was added to U.S. currency in 1864 - and that was because of the same kind of pseudo-religious "revolution" we're seeing with Glenn Beck. It wasn't required to be on coins until 1908, and it wasn't until 1956 that it was required to be on paper currency. It did not become the motto of the U.S. until 1957 - as a reaction to Communism. To quote the Congressional statement, "In these days when imperialistic and materialistic Communism seeks to attack and destroy freedom, it is proper to remind all of us of this self-evident truth that as long as this country trusts in God, it will prevail."
As for our country being founded on "Christian" principles - a little basic research will show you that most of the founding fathers were Deists, not Christians. If this was a Christian nation, there would be more references to Jesus. "God" could apply to the deity of ANY religion.
Glenn Beck doesn't scare us - he amuses us, same as Sarah Palin. And when are people like you going to stop lumping all liberals together? (Yes, I know people do that with conservatives too, and it's equally wrong.) You talk as though all liberals have exactly the same beliefs and feel exactly the same way on all issues. Ridiculous.
Sorry Sarah. You raised your son, and THEN he joined the military(because he got into trouble with the law?). You didn't "raise a combat vet". He became one after joining, completing boot camp, and serving in Iraq.
And to all the dumbsh*ts still complaining about the mosque/youth center being built 2 blocks away from the WTC site: There already is a mosque 4 blocks away, imbeciles. You didn't b*tch about that, did you?
There is also a strip club within two blocks of the WTC site.
No one seems to care about a strip club. Yet most seem to think that a mosque/youth center going up, is somehow a Muslim/Islamic/terrorist victory.
I am a conservative independent, and personally I find the mentions here regarding the mosque sicken me. Has anyone ever heard of freedom of religion. I could understand the outrage if this was built on the ground of the twin towers, but it is two blocks away. Could we please stop this petty bickering and get to subjects that will effect us until next election.
Also, if someone does not believe or agree with this administration do not mean that they are racist, and you people that are throwing this around should be careful, because when true racism and bigotry raises up their ugly heads no one is going to notice because of your abuse of calling everyone racist.
Is Glen Beck or Sarah Palin racist, I do not know, I am not familiar enough with them to make such a statement, but if you think they are then don't you at least think it would be a good idea to find any actions or statements that are race hate related. Please do not end up like the government did over Arizona's Illegal Alien law and start making determinations without any information.
All I know is this; My grandparents came over here in the mid thirty's from Germany because there was true racism there and it was not a good place to live and raise a family if one was Jewish. My wife is from Asia, she came over here when she was two months old with her parents because Communist Vietnam tried to commit genocide against her race. This is racism. What racism is not is someone who disagrees with our president, because he is African American does not mean that mine or others view of his correctness or lack there of is because of a race issue but rather because of a different political view.
My grandparents lost all their families because of racism, and my wife's parents have lost parents, siblings and friends because of racism. Please do not dishonor their graves, or the graves of the civil rights activist in the fifties and sixties by incorrectly tossing this tag on someone. Sadly, I think if Martin Luther King were alive today he would hang his head in shame to see what a mockery we have made of this issue he gave his life for. If we do not learn from history then we will again be doomed to repeat it.
You Beck bashers are evil! I never listened to him because I worked during the air times but I got layed off this Past July and was curious as to why so many people hate him and Hannity and why they get death threats which I think is terrible for human beings to show such hatred...and what I heard from both Hannity and Beck was a love for America, facts that are easily looked up and verified. I was seeing the downgraded America before I even heard these guys. Over half the population on food stamps and welfare, inflated government taxing those who are working to death so they can't even have a semblance of any quality of life, Obama spending hundreds of thousands on vacation after vacation while millions are scrapping for any job just to keep food on the table. Our military fighting to keep us and their families safe only to come back to an America that cuckholds the enemy with this Victory Statue Mosque...it has nothing to do with Freedom of Religion as there are approx a 100 mosques in NYC and over 300 in the state alone....Beck can not preach about what he believes yet this Imam is funded by our tax dollars to preach Islam and Muslim religion, Al Sharpton (dishonors the name Reverend with his HATE speeches) is allowed to blast away and spew malice and racism...the haters and those who cry "wolf" (racism) get all the air time and notoriety and yet the Beck's and Hannity's and Tea party which are just true Americans that believe in being empowered to pave your own way in the world, not be slaves to our Government....they get labled as terrorists and nazis....there is something so twisted and wrong with humanity to follow this leftist ideology and Media Biased Lies! Glen Beck invited all religions to pray for peace, Martin Luther Kings niece was speaking about unity and brotherhood of ALL AMERICANS at Beck's rally. This was not about pushing anything racists but to dispell the biggotry and racism from the left like Sharpton, Obama Administration, this Muslim Imam, etc. We need Americans back working, private jobs created, the economy for and by American Made! I just don't get you people spewing hate, just what you think is so great about this country at the moment as it spirals in uncontrollable debt and we are becoming so culturally divided that we will become the banshi, bombing, chaos countries like the Middle East. When have they ever lived in peace? America is what many of them ran too because we had rules and order and it was a SAFE place in which you could raise a family. The Mexicans and Muslims in their respective countries don't have that so they come here. Everyone wanted to come to America for a reason...that reason is slowly disappearing into the chaos in which they escaped!
Airangel, it's clear from your completely twisted version of reality that nothing anyone says will change your mind. No facts will correct your dead-set, agenda-driven world view.
Really Toasty? and what am I wrong about? Inflated Government? Welfare and food stamps? Chaos? Post racial division? Really what do you think is working?
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Air, you are so misguided in so many ways I'm afraid the only cure for you is three straight weeks of watching the Daily Show so you can stop taking yourself so seriously.
No. In a couple of ways. First, if the Beckheads do as you expect, which is "nothing will stop us from returning our country back to it's judeo/christian values", and do it as many right wingnuts desire and make it an armed revolt, then yes, you will be squashed by the U.S. Army. Second, you are certifiable if you think Obama or anyone else in his administration is a Muslim. You need to be keeping company with the other asylum residents, like Orly Taits, the Queen of the Birthers, who just can't get it through her head that Obama was born in Hawaii. Finally, if Beck and his gang of loons have their way, which seems to be to create a Christian state, we will have become exactly what we fear most: a country based on religion -- and fundamentalist religion at that -- just like Iran.
Remove your head from your posterior, smell the coffee, and get with the 21st Century and out of the 17th Century...
It is "In God We Trust" NOT In Jesus We Trust and those christian founding fathers stated that concept for a reason Religious Freedom
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Very good. Now if you'd only learn what separation of church and state actually means. The real meaning of separation of church and state is government is not to interfere in the operation of churches. In other words, the government cannot come in and interfere or take over a church in order to make that church do its bidding. Churches are to free to practice their religion and free of government interference and intimidation.
It is not that purposely convoluted and erroneous definition that you and so many others have resorted to over the past decade or so.
No....Glenn does NOT rock..however.he does have rocks in his head which many people confuse for brains!!! ;)
The Founding Fathers were overwhelmingly Christian. A large of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were ordained Christian ministers.
And what do you have on the other side?
Franklin and Jefferson and a smattering of Madison -- an assortment of drops spread out over 50 years -- while you ignore the flood of pro-Christian Founders and their day-to-day writings. And by the way, Franklin made reference to God more than once in references to Congress. Throwing in Payne has always been pretty funny. The man lived in England and France and only spent a year visiting in the Americas and never after our independence -- but somehow he's a "Founding Father" Right!
With all due respect Aceyourpapi, the Muslim and Christian God have vastly differing characteristics -- they are not the same. Islam specifically says that the Jewish and Christian Scriptures are corrupted and wrong -- and only they have the truth. That truth involves removing most of the love aspect of Christianity, including Christ's sacrifice for all humanity.
To make it clear, if the KKK said that Martin Luther King attended their rallies and believed in white supremacy, would they be talking about the same Martin Luther King that we know today? Or would it simply be using his name and claiming a connection? Even if they talked about his wife and kids and family, it still wouldn't be the same person.
Good call to the guy who made the comparison with Father Coughlin. Their messages aren't exactly the same, but their motives are disturbingly similar, along with their gigantic egos. As I said in my previous post, its simply a repeating of history. Nothing new here folks.
Who says he has to be an ordained minister?
You people are so funny. Seriously, you stand behind god and preach values, then spew hate towards other religions. Yeah, god would have taught that, right? (Please note sarcasm).
Now Glenn Beck, let me guess, god forgave him for his sins while he was a drug addict, he has a recorded history of mental illness, and he is your hero? Oh wait, did god cure him? He is favored by god, while all the starving and sick children in the world are let to die?
Let's not forget the "Beauty Queen", who still writes notes on her hands as reminders (Yeah, I did that in grade school too). Oh yeah, I'm impressed. Let's not forget how much of a quitter she is, quit mid term as a governer because things weren't going her way. Yeah, that's what I look for in a leader! (Yeah, more sarcasm)
I'll agree that nobody is perfect, but following these two shows lack of good judgement. I'm not saying the right or left is better than one or the other, I'm just surprised how many people actually fall for this garbage from these two lunatics.
Correct Fedup, many religious revivals throughout history were started by college students. And many people called "reverends" have little or no religious training, and do little or no preaching or leading of congregations.
Hey Al Sharpton, you POS. Remember the A train at 42nd Street.
And let's not forget how for years you have lived by stealing people's generosity. TAWANA! TAWANA!
Oh the irony of it all! Lincoln was a liberal, and so was MLK. A conservative oratory at the Lincoln memorial, on the anniversary of MLK's speech!!! Guess ol' air-head Beck and bimbo Palin had to choose this day. Nothing like a bit of controversy to get teh ratings up!!!
To the pro-Christian faction - Jefferson, Washington, Franklin, Madison, etc were all Deists. Yes, there were some religious wing-nuts around at the time like Adams. Firstly, they did not want to create another Europe with its intolerance, and secondly, there were many feuding denominations here - Protestant vs Catholic, etc. They did not want people being killed over religion. Further, Jefferson and Franklin believed in freedom of choice, which, at that point in time, was a foreign concept to most religions. Yes, the religious believed in God-ordained fate. One more thing was that the church and royalty were in cahoots; and early America was ostracized by the European churches of the day, most essentially for refusing to succumb to the English throne!!!
Pat,
Well said!
Jefferson, Washington, Franklin they were men of the enlightenment! People like Samuel Adams, Puritans that could stir a crowd, scared the piss out of them. They thought men like Samuel Adams were more dangerous to the great experiment than almost anything!
Just read about Sharpton's "march" at the same venue. So, just WHO is making this a racial thing? Beck gave only praise to MLK and his dream. So WTF is Sharpton doing marching in protest? Protest of WHAT? Not GETTING HIS FACE ON T.V. Stirring the pot as usual. Also noticed in the article it said that people attending Beck's rally were "mostly white". Yet didn't mention anything about the color of crowd accompanying Sharpton. Why not? Hmmmm. Beck and his supporters said NOTHING about race, yet Sharpton and others want to MAKE it, and everything else, about race. That man is all about instigating racism. Why doesn't the AA community see this man for what he is and does...uses them, exploits them and their culture, to get on T.V. and in the news. This is (supposedly) a man of God???? Not hardly.
I don't know how Sharpton turned a religious gathering into racism. Is he not a pastor that believes in God himself? What would he find wrong with Christians gathering together in America for anyway?
I get the feeling he does not believe in God.
Incredible, compared to yesterday, I'm knocked over even more by the bigoted hatred flowing on this thread. We now kno and can see who REALLY is the party of hatred and racism. The Liberals. But I'm sure they will never admit it. This 'vine is a testament to their twisted view of America. I'm glad I don't have to live with those folks. Their elitist, negativity would bring me down.
It took me awhile to find an article on MSN about this rally. They really buried it deep! I also enjoy the bias that shows when they say "thousands showed up" or like my local newspaper "Tens of thousands showed up" .. It should read "Hundreds of Thousands", "Half a Million", "Over 300,000", etc.. This only perpetuates MSNBC standing strong with the liberals.
Also, I am quite offended by Al Sharpton's rally in the hundreds, from what I heard, saying "They will not steal our day" STEAL OUR DAY!! REALLY?! If that isn't racist. Martin Luther King's message was of equality for all races, not just a day for black people. This is a prime example of why things can't move forward in this country. It all goes back to race, oppression, and suffering instead of equality, prospering, looking towards the future.
orbust, you're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
Junk like this:
And the Nazi comparisons not restored.
Todd-651965, deal with the accusation [which is pretty extreme], don't attack the Viner. You know the rules.
You're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
Commonsense-545576-670593, who were you even talking to? You're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
Al Sharpton is nothing more then a publicity seeking idiot. First he starts of his career by stating he was friends with Martin Luther King and then found out to be a lier. Give me Bill Cosby, Colin Powell or other respected Afro-American leaders and I will gladly listen to what they have to say.
Glenn Beck had every RIGHT to have this rally on the Anniversary of MLKs "I have a Dream speech" at the Lincoln Memorial. However, anyone with any decency know he shouldn't have. He is a complete ego maniacal Hate mongering ass. This KKK rally of his was disgusting and served no purpose but to stir up more racial animosity. Any one who says it didn't is either as thick as a brick or just plain lying!
spg...it is rabble rousers like you that are "stirring up racial animosity....Beck will see this event as a huge success....and for him it was.....so what??
Lol I don't know why it's only just occurred to me, but post 1.102 made me realize the incredible similarity between Beck and the Mosque controversy... He has the RIGHT to do it, but it's insensitive to hold a rally full of conservative white people who are claiming to fight for civil rights. Just as they may have been in the right spirit, claiming it was really all about helping racial equality, etc., the conservatives have a history of repression, and to use that HALLOWED date to hold that speech on HISTORIC grounds... He has the right, so it was insensitive. I'm sure someone else has noticed that somewhere on this cluster!@#$ of a vine, but I just thought of it by myself and felt it was relevant.
You can give your blah blah blahs about how the two situations are totally different, and how I'm stretching, but it's all in reference to Beck, who's the master of false extrapolation, so I don't wanna hear it. Go ahead and disagree, I'm not going to read it.
dead grimly...You hate to see conservative white people claim to fight for civil rights.....Why??? Why do you see all conservative white people as evil??? It is a flaw in your makeup....Try to not be so bigoted...Try to have some control on that hate...
JA,
Really I am the Race baiter here! OK let us go down the list of why any decent American would be repulsed by Glenn Beck giving a speech on the Anniversary of MLKs great speech.
I hate to see the legacy of George Wallace claim to have fought for civil rights, yes. During the civil rights movement, the conservatives were against it. That's a fact. Now that they realize they're going to need black votes in the future, all of the sudden they're for it, they were always for it, and the political party whose BLACK chairman has even said "we haven't done much to help black voters" tries to sweep everything under the rug.
spg64, you sure do spend a lot of time watching someone you hate, to bad you watch with closed eyes. You sound like the type of person that is so closed minded there is no room for anything else.
dEd, you sound as though you want to keep racism alive, sorry to disappoint you but the majority of people have no problem with each other, we live in the same neighborhood, our kids play together, we go to work and school together. It's only when people like you, the media,some politicians and some like Sharpton who think they know better than we Americans whats in our hearts. If they would learn to shut their mouth racism would all but disappear. Our kids hardly know anything about this type of hatred . Let it die.
SPG, I tried to look up the facts that you were presenting and was unable to find anything except what people have stated it their attacks against Beck.
We were not asking for Democrat or some Liberal statements, but for actual recorded or written speeches or writings that he has put down. The truth is I do not think they exist, but I could be wrong because I am not a fan of Beck but neither am I going to slam him for something that doesn't exist. In the end all this is going to accomplish is people are going to start thinking that Democrats are full of sh*t (excuse my french, but I am so sick of people stating gossip as facts).
Where would I ever get the impression that racism still existed...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTPiwpU3O0A
TBenton,
Come on, all you have to do is a simple web search, or is that beyond you! The amount of clips available showing Glen Becks racist crap is astounding. The last to clips were taken from his radio show, not his TV show!
You are defending a guy that gives a speech on the steps of the Lincoln memorial and lies about American History. He actually said that the Civil War caused the work stoppage on the Washington Monument when in fact it was the No Nothing movement(anti-immigration movement) that caused the stoppage well before the civil war even started. Does he think people will not check his facts. He doesn't care about telling the truth because the nutty right thinks he is above reproach!
Tell me the sights. I have heard this again and again, yet no one has anything that shows this (there was one remark when over the radio he called Obama white but look at his genealogy and you will see he has a small part of African blood in him and more Arab, and most of all he is half white because his mother is white. Do not see this as racist. I am half Jewish, 3/8 English and 1/8 Native American, this does not make me a Native American).
So instead telling me about all these statements and looking up in the Internet (I did and all they have is Beck calling the president white), there is not much to go on.
No...God didn't cure him; he appeared on an episode of Benny Hinn, who smacked him in the forehead and "cured" him. But he hit Beck too hard, and now he's going blind:
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/07/19/glenn-beck-i-might-be-going-blind/
A request to Newsvine: please put emoticons into the selection of characters we can use in our responses, and include the one which has the eyeballs spinning in opposite directions. That would be the best response to the above quoted nonsense...
This is the guy who "steps up" to regain honor?!?!?!?!
And the sheep follow.
Scary isn't it? Sheeple. Can't live with em. Can't cram them all in Alaska with Palin.
Isn't it a bit strange that when you read the comments at the bottom of the article all of them are anti Glenn, and their are several here supporting him? And about this being racist? If you ever watch him you would see all the reports he has done about all the blacks that had something to do with the creation of the Constitution and fought along side of Washington to help make our country free. The term racist and hatred has been thrown around so much the words mean absolutely nothing anymore.
Donna good point.
The libs generally have no facts to back up their diatribes.
So they yell "Bush did It", or, "you're a racist", that's all they have.They have made meaningless, the words racist, bigot and prejudice.
Wolf, wolf, wolf.
Beck and Palin--- Dumb and Dumber! They are so wacko that they only end up helping the Democrats! Roll out the red carpet and let them rant!
I agree Donna...and we can thank people like Sharpton for that.
This is pure, unfettered, anti-intellectual, anti-rational, anti-American, racism.
I am starting to think that Speck is evil in the metaphysical sense.
People that call him a racist, probably are. People that call him anti-intellectual, probably are. People that call him anti-American, probably are. I doubt that many of the people that call Beck names have ever REALLY watched a telecast or listened to their radio or read one of his books with an open mind.
They call Beck's fan's 'sheep', yet they judge him because he hits home with many of his anti-liberal and anti-progressive stances and facts and if he's not hitting them with facts, he at least introduced the right questions.
First off, let me say that I do not like or support Glen Beck. I think he is a extreme right wing nut. Secondly, I do not consider myself to be a very religious person. I do believe in faith, but have found little use for organized religion.
What I would like to point out is that our constitution guarantees us freedom of religion, not freedom from religion as some of the left seem to think. The extreme left wants to remove all reference to god or religion from our civil society. They were pushing to remove "in god we trust" from our money. The founding fathers definitely believed that religion had a place in our society. Just look at the declaration of independence "... endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights ..." Who do you think they meant when they wrote "Creator" and capitalized it to boot. Obviously this was a reference to god.
I think that our country has lost it's way. Our moral compass, that largely came from our individual religious beliefs, gave us all a sense of right and wrong. That moral compass seems to have disappeared from our society. A new imperative, to get ahead by any means necessary, seems to have taken over. This is witnessed by the increasing frequency of people being found to be accumulating wealth through fraudulent means. Whether it is the Madoffs of the world with their Ponzi schemes, the CEOs and other officers or corporations with back dated stock options and falsified financial reports, the mortgage modification and debt relief scams, politicians being accused of numerous frauds, etc., there seems to be a huge increase in this get ahead at all costs attitude. A large number of people in this country seem to have completely lost their sense of right and wrong. If a return to a focus on faith and religion is the way to regain this moral compass is up for debate. I, for one, do not see how it could hurt. In any case, I think that we need to find some way back. Our society is becoming less and less civil with every passing year. We must find a way to reverse this trend.
Talking about, "and the sheep will follow?" Welcome to the school of "Obama's Stepfords." You've become lemmings and don't even know it.
I also like the attempts to discredit Beck, Palin, Bush, etc - it's the only "blank" ammunition the libtards have. You see, the only way these "poor excuses for Americans" can retaliate is to call people racists. Besides, can anyone tell me what message Beck brings that you disagree with? Are you against honor, liberty, the true purpose of the Constitution? Can anyone tell me the fear you have with restoring true American values?
JS: While our Constitution protects freedom of religion, the Bible warns against judging others. This is what the right, and your post, seems to do. Who are these people or you, for that matter, to judge others and their "moral compass". This is exactly what the Pilgrims were fleeing from when they landed here. Some other group of people imposing their idea of "moral compass". I think it best if people minded their own compasses. If we had more of that going on, perhaps this country would return to civility.
Glen Beck is a false prophet feeding off people's anger, hatred and fear. That's what power-hungry people do. They find the lost and they follow like sheep. For people like me who mind our "moral compass", we see this guy for who he is, pure evil.
Roy far on the Right,
Was Adolf Hitler one of the Founding Fathers? He was "far on the right", that's for sure!
actually Mickey boy, he believed most of the same thing your hero Barry O believes in. He was a socialst also. Perhaps you should learn history.
Who's going to step up? one of your left-wing, liberal democrats? Another mindless drone!
someone had to, cause the man America should look up to is too busy playing golf and blaming his predecessor for his issues. Anyone else in any other job would be FIRED for being this incompetent.
Although one simply cannot impose the belief of God or a religion on someone, I whole heartedly agree with restoring morals and principles.
JS in SD- How can you say you're not a religious person, and yet state that our "moral compass" comes from "religious beliefs". That's slightly counterproductive. And yes, Freedom OF Religion encompasses Freedom FROM Religion. Atheism is considered a denomination of religion. All medical forms now say "Check one: Christian, Catholic, Athesit etc." I have the religious freedom to be an Atheist, which means I have the religious freedom FROM being religious. That being said, I really resent the argument that morality is tied in with religion. Morality is often times completely ABSENT from religion. Persecution, war, discrimination, all in the name of a religious order is the name of most religious games. Morality is one's personal ethics, their code of conduct by which they lead their lives. I am a moral person in that I do not discriminate, I do not hurt others (intentionally), I do not cause damage (intentionally). I live my life legally and happily in a live and let live manner, and I do NOT subscribe to any one's religious ideals. How am I not moral?
These people that are increasing their wealth through unethical and illegal means are hiding behind their religion of choice. They go to Church once a week, and they are "absolved" of all their sins, so that they can turn around and keep getting richer while the rest of us keep struggling to feed our children. Right and Wrong do not come exclusively from religion. I learned from my parents, and they learned from life. I take my cues from God (as I define him/her/it), and I don't need any church to tell me how to conform my life.
Smokey's Mom gets it!
I've heard his dribble randomly when I'm around my dad and he has it on. The guy is nothing more than a fear monger, a capitalist, and a manipulator. Not sure if he's a racist, but I could easily see him incorporating it into is persona.
He prays on peoples fear. He does it rather well. Notice all the yelling/raised voice? All to get people going. He doesn't hesitate to drop a line for goldline. He steps on toes. It's all to get people thinking he's some sort of genius. Which he is... just not in the sense most think he is... He knows how to milk the money jugs.
Bob C,
Hitler was not a Socialist. He was a Nationalist Conservative.
wow, you people are the sheep. You claim again and again "oh glenn, hes a rascist, hes a hate monger." GET ME SOME QUOTES PLEASE!!!!! Or is it you just can't find the actuall proff to support your false claims. You people, get me some quotes, or all of what you said is meaningless. He prays on peoples fears!?!?!?!? You really think another 20 years of cutting down rainforests, building cars, tvs and roads is gonna happen? think again, remember your shamanistic values, or has your feeble cultures contorted everything that we hold true into some perversion of the truth. That my friend is whats happened.
IF YOU STAND AGAINST GLENN BECK OR ISRAEL....YOU SHALL STAND AGAINST GOD!
MWHAHAHHA, and God doesnt take too kindly to people that challenge his allmighty will. Do me a favor, clear out your brain peoples, realize that your government, are liars and murderers...haha, ok? And Glenn Beck, tells it like it is, if you dont like the truth, you might aswell GET THE @!$%# OUT OF THE COUNTRY. Thanks :) Have a good day now, let God work through Glenn as a mighty becon of LIGHT!
Don't expect those making nasty comments on understand it. To restore honor you must have a clue of what honor is Alas, it appears honor and dignity are in short supply with many. To restore honor, it must mean something to you to be honorable.
I forgot to the left, anything in the private sector that makes a profit is evil. The only thing we are allowed to overpay for is a government job. Then it is impossible to overpay.
Notice beck and palin keep referencing guns. Wonder where this is going?
The first amendment gives us the right to freedom of speech and religion. No matter what you think of Beck, he has the right to hold this event anywhere and at anytime he chooses, provided he's not breaking any laws, of course.
And the first amendment applies to both Beck's rally and the proposed community center two blocks from ground zero. To support one and protest the other is hypocrisy.
Martin Luther King = Nobel Prize winner seeking racial peace and civil rights for all. Beck = rigtht wing attention whore in front of an almost all white audience. Will non whites show up as party poopers?
I still don't get what the unifying theme is. Are NRA fanatics going to show up packing pistols? Is it "religion" or fundamentalist Christianity that wishes no separation between church and state? Are they going to burn Quarans? Why pick this day specifically in reference to Martin Luther King? Is it the Tea Party fixation on race while trying their best to claim they are not racist? Will Fox end up paying people to be an enthusiastic crowd in front of their cameras again and then grossly over estimate the number of people that showed up? Is it just an attempt to show America that the Tea Party is a large movement (assuming there is a large crowd). What type of movement will the Tea Potty claim for itself? Will Beck have his best friend and chalk board with him? Will Glen and Sarah announce their bid for the white house in 2012? Will they confess to a love affair? What will Sarah have written on her hands this time? Can you call a rally for anti Obama rantins a religious event? Is this like a "holy roller" thang where people will go into spiritual ferver seizures reciting anti Obama talking points.
Like the repubicans and teabaggers have honor? Give me a break. All of you sheep thought it was great when that 'tard Bush was spending our future generations' money on a ridiculous war that didn't need to be gought and when he wasn't blowing the nations' money he was kissing Arab princes and holding hands with them. That's an image that still makes me puke. It's too bad that all you right wing nutjobs couldn't leave and form your own country. We would be better off. If only Beck had been successful in his suicide attempt.
Real Christianity and right wing racist politics have nothing to do with each other.
If glenn beck was born in Iraq he would of blow him self up looking for his virgins by now.
President Lincoln called. He does not want the rally held at his memorial. That would be desecration.
Bob C,
Hitler was about as socialist as my middle finger! The "Socialism" in National Socialism was chosen just because it sounded trendy. Nazi Germany was as capitalistic as the United States. I think it is you who need to learn a little more history.
Of course this event has to do with politics--it's disingenuous for Beck to say otherwise. Maybe he means that they won't be discussing political issues--but we all know that the hope is to have this gathering affect political elections. And that's fine--it's a right of free speech. But he should be up front about it.
However you guys are dead wrong if you think this is all about people following Glen Beck. Those folks have proven their seriousness and will turn up to an event like this no matter who is organizing it--as long as the organizer of course is a tea party conservative. You all know full well that the media demonizes Beck and Palin because they are powerful voices of ideas and agendas that oppose the positions that the supposedly "ojective" media (not!) feels very free to support and espouse. And many of you buy into what they say and accept the demonization hook, line and sinker. And you call the tea party folks sheeples???? Please.
I don't think it is about forcing his religious views on anyone. I don't see him with his boot on your throat saying accept my views or else.
I haven't paid much attention to him, of late, but I will tell you what I know, he has a very good point.
Kruchev said many years ago that we will make you fall from within. This is about infiltrating all your organizations and slowly take them over. There is plenty of evidence that this has occured.
Beck believes that all of our organizations are wrought with corruption. Union people are seen saying the union takes my money and supports people and philosophies that I don't agree with. You hear similar things from Democrats and Republicans. There countless foundations and even churches founded under one set of principles, now supporting the opposite principles they were founded on.
Example, Christian churches founded that practicing homosexuals would not enter the kingdom of heaven now accept them as ministers - provided they are in a "monogamous homosexual relationship". The words in the new testament didn't change.
"He who stands for nothing, will fall for anything."
I think he has a good point.
Mickey, you are mistaken. The National Socialist German Workers' Party was quite different from capitalists in that period, and the philosophical differences remain to be found and studied in history. Naziism was all about the socalistic side of government - seizing and redistributing wealth, feeding the people a single line of thought that required the state to control all aspects of life, etc.
The red backgound of the Nazi Party flag was a symbol offered by Hitler in recognition of the communist movement to the east - the socialization of industry and society as controlled by a central government. Capitalists were the first people to be adjudicated by the national socialists in Germany, and most had their life's work taken from them for the good of the state.
Having a moral compass and religion are NOT mutually exclusive. You do NOT need to be religious to have a moral compass, and just because someone is religious does not necessarily mean they are moral (Catholic priests charged with molestation... for example?!). I am so sick of the "so superior" attitude some religious people have that anyone who is not religious is a bad person and "going to **** (which I also don't believe in, by the way).
Mickey No, Hitler was not a socialist -
Socialism was the tool to gain control - MARX specifically states this. Notice how none of the self proclaimed communists never get to true communism - they get stuck on Socialism.
Socialism itself is not inherently evil, it is about promoting society as a whole - making things "equal". For socialism to work everyone, everyone must submit to a higher authority. What totalitarians, dictators, narcissists, and communists do is accumulate what they deem enough dependency on government for daily life and education to rule the masses. Then they strip away more freedoms than socialism will to protect the accumulated power.
The real problem with making things equal is that progress slows, stops, and then regression sets in. There is an old addage If you are not moving forward, then you are moving backwards. There is no middle ground.
Why was Post #1 collapsed? For those who want to see it, merely tap the + button.
Here's the Post in its entirety;
Glenn rocks!
The collapse feature seems to be abused by people on the left for no reason other than disagreement about an opinion.
Personally, I don't pay much attention to Beck, but he IS entitled to his opinion, which obviously strikes a chord with a huge number of people.
Good Lord people, don't you even recognize tactics of the KARL ROVE MACHINE (Lee Atwater's Protege) when you see them!
THESE ARE NOTHING MORE THAN REPUBLICAN DIVISIVE TACTICS - "CONVENIENTLY" TAKING PLACE RIGHT BEFORE MID-TERM ELECTIONS! SO YOU SHOULD EXPECT THEM TO PULL OUT EVERY SMEAR TACTIC AND DIRTY TRICK IN THE BOOK.
PLEASE, stay focused and DO NOT ALLOW YOURSELVES TO BE DISTRACTED AND DISCOURAGED - AND END UP STAYING HOME WHEN IT COMES TIMES TO VOTE FOR MID-TERM ELECTIONS - NO MATTER WHAT'S HAPPENING IN YOUR LIVES!!
This country simply CAN NO LONGER afford these kinds of DIVISIVE BEHAVIOR!!
MAKE YOUR VOICES HEARD AT THE VOTING BOOTHS. And remember, 20% of the voting polulation CAN NEVER and WILL NEVER WIN ELECTIONS - if you don't ALLOW it!!
PLAIN AND SIMPLE!
When Satan, the Anti-Christ finally does step forward he will show a face of righteousness and hide behind a shield of morality. In this way you can follow him to your self-indulgent damnation with the rest of the heartless industrialists.
I wonder who is footing the bill for this fiasco. Whether Beck is a racist or not should not be the question. The question should be why this particular place and time was chosen and what is the motive behind it. If it is religion, I would point out that if having the ten commandments shown in a public place is illegal shouldn't a professed "religious" diatribe be?
DB: Thank you for the accurate clarification. I've studied up quite a bit on communism, socialism, Marxism, etc. and if most of these clowns actually READ, STUDIES or PAID ATTENTION DURING HISTORY CLASS, they'd know how Hitler and Stalin twisted these ideas for their own political control of the masses. I hate to admit it, but democracy is beginning to be abused in the same way.
Hitler, and Stalin for that matter, were a dictators, not socialist, Marxists or communists. Forget about flag colors or what these boneheads stated in any speeches.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)
We are finally doing something and we will remove the evil from congress and the white house.
mountain mike
MLK never disclosed, which party he was registered as. Democrats accused him of being a socialist or communist. Nazi were neither today's Right wing nor socialists. They used socialism to install a Narcissistic Dictator.
You can only get such wild, baseless, assertions by reading and submitting to radical hate promoting thinkers!
Mickey-1983943 " Bob C, Hitler was about as socialist as my middle finger! The "Socialism" in National Socialism was chosen just because it sounded trendy. Nazi Germany was as capitalistic as the United States. I think it is you who need to learn a little more history."
I think you DO need a history lesson. Adolf Hitler believed in an all-controlling central government, which is what liberals believe in today.
Ironically, the definition of a "Classical Liberal" is someone who believes in a small government and freedom from control by a strong central government - what we call a conservative today. It was based on the word "Liberty", which has a root meaning of freedom from a strong central government. Here's a quote from wikipedia;
"Classical liberalism is a political ideology that developed in the 19th century in Western Europe, and the Americas. It was committed to the ideal of limited government and liberty of individuals including freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly, and free markets." Here's the link;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism
And here is the original definition of Conservatism;
"It is the persistent image of society as a command structure in which the responsibilities of leadership can be exercised within the framework of a strong state manifested in divine-right royalism....that distinguishes English conservatism from rival ideologies."
It was that very attitude that our Founding Fathers fought against in the American Revolution.
So what was originally called a Liberal is now called a Conservative, and what was originally called a Conservative is now called a Liberal.
Go figure.
biznine: The evil was voted out in 2006 & 2008.
The evil you speak of is in the form of humans, dressed in white sheets on horsebeck, about to burn crosses at the Lincoln memorial tonight! Oh, and they're bringing their guns, because of all the 'threats' to their life that will be present.
This idiot Beck is a clown to even try to put himself in the same league as MLK is laughable.He contradicts himself ever other day politicly while tring to help those scammers sell gold,and did you ever notice who sponsers his show.He is a dumbass who some smart people hired to appeal to the fears of other dumbasses to control there small minds.
You are the sheep, having government run your life.
Uncommonsense: The government doesn't shape my views. They are my own and I do not bleet.
While Hitler may have embraced the concept of socialism, his regime was the much more strident version referred to as fascism which he observed in Italy under Mussolini. (Fascism - "A governmental system with strong centralized power, permitting no opposition or criticism, controlling all affairs of the nation (industrial, commercial, etc." American College Dictionary) Dr. Lawrence Britt defines 14 defining characteristics of fascism. They are:
Doesn't the bible(Revelations?) warn about those standing on a pulpit pretending/professing to be doing "God's will"?
If Beck is really concerned about going "back to God", he will donate ALL his money to organizations that help people, and live like Jesus did(simple robes and no luxuries).
Anybody who lives in luxury, yet claims to be doing "God's work"(like con artist televangelists), more than likely follows the devil, not God. Money and riches are the devil's temptations, not rewards from God.
Peachblossom: Spot on! Thanks for the post.
The entire thing is being collapsed by people on both sides.
ANNOYING!!!
ed821, you're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
2.36 deleted, Wdill copypasting an entire Rick Wiles article. Don't.
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I'll say. Lots of comments restored.
Glen Beck has taught me so much about history...in school I fell for the liberal "blame whitey" indoctranation that tried to blame us for all the shortcomings of the black race. I am not a rascist, but black people should thank God that their ancesters were brought over here from Africa. Would they like it better if they were now living in Africa, starving, and many unredeemed by Christ? Martin Luthor King was a communist and was being monitored by the FBI. The Democrats has always been the rascists in the country but if you believe the liberal media, I dont judge anyone from their race...but you can sure tell that Obama does...The way he sneers and hold up his nose on TV you can tell he thiks he is better than anyone else.
Dr. King most certainly WAS NOT by any stretch of the imagination, a communist
"I'm not a racist.. but you can sure tell that Obama does... the way he sneers and hold up his nose on TV"
Yeah, you can tell just by the color of his skin too. Doh! Maybe you should have stayed in school, moron.
Todd, what an illiterate, uneducated, thoughtless, paranoid, insensitive, racist cracker you are! Wow! Better to be brought in chains between decks where more than half died? My ignorant ethnocentric friend, don't you realize that much of the starvation in Africa stems from wars funded by western exploitation of that continent, which has been going on since slavery and continues in the form of mineral extraction to support our life-style? You might want to get out more or read outside your little conservative cadre.
King was funded and supported by communist.
As a white woman, allow me to be the first to say Are You Freaking Serious?! Yes, I'm sure all black people are SO thankful that their ancestors were kidnapped from their homes and families, chained to ship hulls and left to die from starvation and disease, and then those that remained were sold like cattle into slavery, with the most brutal conditions, to be treated with a complete lack of regard for their health or well being. Sounds about right. Yeah. Gratitude sounds about right. Because of slavery, (which, sorry to break it to you hunny, IS the fault of the white man) black people in todays society are still suffering from the aftershocks of such a long term and brutal part of our history. We kept an entire group of people horribly oppressed for hundreds of years, and then after "Granting them freedom", continued to treat them unfairly and unjustly. This not only added more years of black people struggling through poverty and degraded morale. Wake up Todd. If you want to allow Becks distorted view of "history" to absolve you of any guilt so that you can sleep at night, knock yourself out. The rest of us prefer to live in reality.
You typify the ignorant masses that perpetuate hate and fear. Re-read your post, it is quite obvious that you are uneducated! It is replete with misspellings. Your comment about blacks and how they should be thankful to have brought here is mind boggling. Wow...just wow.
Lisa:
What is more important, the English class misspellings or the concept or the idea put up in writing? You typify the masses that see the "obvious" to miss what is "important"...
Have a nice day! (if you can)
Tell ya what, why don't you test that theory by having someone horse-whip you to within an inch of your life, starve you while working you harder than any mule for a few months, then hang you, then see how thankful you are for that experience.
PS - Yes, you ARE an ignorant racist... here's your sign, dumbass.
well said,
but an idea just hit me. I think that if whites were allowed to be black and blacks were allowed to be white or pick what ever culture/creed you want, then pick another for what ever reason you see fit, now attempt to walk just one mile. You don't have to go to Washington to march or go anywhere to congregate. I wonder would you perish before you reached the end of your mile? Get our country back, take our country back, restore honor, smaller government all by any means necessary if to and including second amendment rights lends itself to all the shortsightedness of a so called intelligent and well education nation of place any (extreme group) here :___________________________. Race is man's invention who's existence and goal of purpose is for the economic/financial exportation of all who are not wise enough to recognize its powerfully destructive effect on all of mankind.
LPV123- Feeling "white guilt" much?
Slavery is a part of history and from a historical perspective is not about blacks. All people, regardless of skin color, have had their time as slaves. As groups conquered various part of Europe and Asia, they enslaved the people of the conquered lands. Don't forget that during the formation of our country, nearly everyone was of European descent where, at the time, slavery was accepted.
Don't blame slavery on America. Americans did not create slavery. And many of the founders were opposed to the enslavement of people. See Article I Section 2 of the US Constitution. The "three fifths of all other persons," was not intended as means to diminish the value of a person, but rather to diminish the amount of representation and power from the south. Had slaves been counted wholey for determining the representation in the house, the southern states would have been excess power in the House. And, since the southern states were predominately slave territory, this excess representation would have lengthened the practice of slavery in this country.
Slavery was and still is wrong, but none of us alive today have ever been slaves or owned slaves. It's time to move beyond this argument. If not, how much longer should we continue this argument? Another hundred years, two hundred, three hundred...It's time to move beyond this and everyone needs to accept their current station in life and if they are not happy about it, work to get out of it. Continuing to blame history is not going to help any of us.
I would appreciate that all black people that still live in the past and feel sorry for themselves
to look at who is our president. I rest my case.
Todd - I know this may sound like liberal nonsense to you, but the fact of the matter is that we all descend from Africa and the genetic differences between races and ethnic are trivial at best. This information is not something made up but comes from the investigation of human genetics. Thus the majority of what it took to make you, me and every other person on earth human was earned through evolutionary processes in Africa, but then you may or may not believe that evolution is real. And as far as the questionable up in air pose adopted by Obama, that same gesture was a favorite of FDR except he had a cigarette holder in his mouth.
God help us, man....you must be a Democrat!
It seems as if people envision the manner in which slaves were acquired involved white men with guns and lasso's running around Africa rounding them up like cattle. This was not the case. Typically, leaders of differing clans throughout Africa would take prisoners during conflicts between one another - for the sole purpose of selling them to the slave trade ships. Such ships were anchored off the African coast long before America's involvement in the slave industry. As with everything, it was a profit based business, with everyone taking their cut.
Atlas- As I was addressing another commentator, perhaps you took my comment out of context. The commentator said specifically that black people should be thankful that they were brought over from Africa (as slaves). Hence why my comments were focused primarily on black slavery. I actually passed all of my history courses in both high school and college, and am well aware of how slavery has played out with other races and cultures.
For the record, I never blamed slavery on America, and I don't know where you got that information. Slavery began LONG before America was even founted. But tell me, since slavery was so instrumental in the development of America, how is America not at fault for its role in slavery? They may not have created the concept of slavery, but they certainly perpetrated it extensively.
Todd- Sadly, if you think you have learned so much about history from Glen Beck, then you are wildly misinformed. Your prejudice and hatred are showing here. Glen Beck has no idea what he is talking about. He is an egomaniac who is making money off of all of you who follow him like sheep. This is a sad day in America.
you are the most racist ahole i have seen on email in a long time why in the hell don't you go back to where your nationality is{probably germany}
Todd your right about obama and that broad of his but you can't tell these dorks that. Hey Lisa, LPv is a uneducated idiot. She spelled founded wrong,lol. WJEi guess you know where you can stick your evolution. LPV as for you,get educated hunny. The white man is not the instigator of slavery. The Egyptians,whom that racists sharpton likes to brag about being black,were the owner of slaves. They enslaved the Hebrews and others to build their pyramids and temples,dig out their tombs and much more. Your comment shows you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.
@Todd - If Glen Beck was the person for teaching you your history I would suggest you take a history exam and see how much you FAIL. You're brainwashed, plain and simple.
yes, because being taken and forced to work for white people is a dream come true!!! perhaps Africa wouldn't be in the state it is in, if countries like America tried to help by forcing out the ones who are the oppressors there...I mean seriously what is the difference between theose guerrillas and the taliban...OH, thats right, they don't have anything we want!! wake up and get a grip on life. Glenn Beck is just trying stir up trouble!! he is not very smart man, I mean he is with LOSER hello...Sarah Palin didn't win. lest we forget. And Glenn Beck has his demons...a former druggie...hello!!
LVP123: WE also hada Civil War To End IT! Funny that everything said here today about slavery has left that point out of any of your comments! Why you are still fighting over race? How many white Americans died? Over 150 years ago...I was born free and so were all of you!I have not forgotten history, but I am triedof hearing this over and over again! You can rant till you blue in the face you can't change History!
I don't like what happened but it isn't happening now! Now Bash away all you want I'm not prejudice or racist, I for one live for now where we have a sh%# load of problems! Back on topic now, Beck has as much right to speak about anything he wants too, others don't have to like it or listen to it. To think he is trying to out speak MLK is ridiculous. He however has a right to say God (as did MLK) as much as he wants, there is so much hate on here, Do any of you think MLK, Jefferson,Washington would be happy at what you are saying just to each other? Think again!
The way he sneers and hold up his nose on TV you can tell he thiks he is better than anyone else.
Oh that is surely enough scientific proof for me!
MLK a communist - you must be kidding me!!!! Do you even know the definition of communist?
How old are you, seriously? You learned history through Beck...that's Beck's twisted version...wake up! Why can't you people spot a propagandist/cultist when you see one. Guess there is a sucker born every minute. If Beck is so smart and knows history why is he claiming he didn't know today was the anniversary of MLK's speech. Either he doesn't know as much as he says or he is just playing his usual games of pretending he didn't know to try to quiet his critics, just like he claims this rally isn't political. Everyone attending did so because they hate Obama...nothing more, nothing less!! Still would love to know from all of you what Obama has done that has you so tied up in knots. If Bush was still President this rally would have never taken place even though it was him & Cheney who lead our Country down the tubes. WAKE UP!!!!
Are you for real???? Get a real education...Please.
Kiki- The Civil War didn't end racism, dear. It assisted in the Abolition of Slavery, which wasn't the primary cause of the Civil War, though it did influence it greatly. It was primarily over States Rights (including the right to own slaves). The Civil War ended in 1865, and yet in 1881, the first of the Jim Crow Laws was enacted in Tennessee, segregating train cars. Racism is very much alive today, even though it isn't legalized, it is still widely practiced. There was a giant Klan meeting in Nahunta just a little while ago, and you're telling me that racism is over?
Warchief- You used the improper tense for Racist. It should be "whom that racist Sharpton" , not racists . Grow up. We all make typing errors. Now, to get back on track, you obviously didn't take my comment in context to the person I was responding to. I was referring specifically to slavery in AMERICA. America = founded by white people. Stolen from the Natives. Ring a bell?
Let's all please remember that history is written by those who hold the power. Beck's history is factual to a point but then it skews to his side of the aisle. The transverse of that argument is that if you notice, most professors in college teach VERY different classes before and after they recieve their tenure. Once they know they are unable to be fired easily, they start to skew their classes with their views in the other direction. I mean, I remember being told that indians were a peaceful people whom we killed until they left their lands. while the last part of that is historically accurate, indian nations were warring with each other non-stop before we ever showed up, and were known to attack settlers unprovoked....hardly the peaceful people we were all indoctrinated to believe. Bottom line is, don't take your info from one side and dismiss the other as drivel. The truth lies somewhere in the middle.
Atlas - how refreshing it is to hear someone post that actually has a brain. Yes indeed slavery was around long before America and the white man. Continuing to blame the actions of people in the past is beyond stupid, it is infantile and shows a complete lack of personal responsibility.
NVArt- No one is blaming other's for their actions. I wasn't referring to slavery, as a whole. I was referring ONLY to slavery in America (colonized by white men) in response to a post where an individual stated that black people should be thankful that they were "Brought over from Africa (as slaves)". You are taking my comments out of context, and completely bastardizing them. Read Todd Pollards post, and maybe you'll understand what I was talking about.
Todd- aside from your pitiful attempts at spelling standard American English words, your
outlook is abysmal. Obviously you haven't been redeemed by Christ, otherwise, how could
you spout such hateful, ill-informed drivel in a public venue?
This man ... is ... a side show from Hell.
Yup, but give him some slack...he's just trying to emulate the true masters of deceit, i.e. Revs. Al & Jesse.
Norman did your mom call U MasterBates ??? :P
So, all of you who have "bashed" Beck and those attending this rally before this event occurs are people who supposedly stand for the liberty of all Americans?
Sorry, but it's hard to take you seriously. Can you figure out why?
It's amazing how the blind followers of the slimeball sitting. rather playing, in the white house throw stones at the few that are stepping up to the plate to correct the errors of the last election. It is time to throw out the communist and his crazy czars that aim to destroy the only free country in the world.
WAKE UP AMERICA. WAKE UP MORONS. IF YOU LOSE YOUR FREEDOM, YOU WILL NOT SEE IT BACK IN YOUR LIFETIME.
So, two wrongs make a right, now???
You people just can't HANDLE the truth!
Marlene - what rights have been taken away from you? Beck had his rally, didn't he? I remember when Bush had townhalls that anyone that so much as wore a teeshirt that said something against the war or against Bush that person was hauled away and it was shown on camera as a warning. Where were all you freedom lovers then?
And you don't think people are subjected to that now by this administration!?!?!? That's politics not a person.... I'm surrounded by whiners and cry babies...
This has everything to do with politics.......who is he kidding? Glenn Beck is a fear monger and a racist. The people that listen to his line of crap are nothing but mice that follow the Pied Piper.
And you have watched or listened to Glenn entirely just how many times? Obviously ZERO to have reached such a conclusion - since you are spewing the same tired rhetoric of those who also have never watched or listened. Try forming your own opinion rather than simply regurgitating the unfounded assertions of others.
I've heard enough of the ugliness that has come out of his mouth to form my own opinion, and it's not a very a nice one. Pure ugliness and hatred. I will never listen to what this man has to say ever again. My soul wanted to vomit the one and only time I tried to listen to his garbage. I won't subject myself to that again.
LPV - I agree completely with you. Al Sharpton can only be described in one word - racist. I also don't believe a word that comes out of Al's mouth.
Glav:
That's the "beauty" of the Constitution. Any clown like Beck or Palin has his 15 minutes of fame and the Constitutional right to say whatever they want to say. Is the people who follows them the ones that are dangerous. They fuel the masses, (Beck, Palin, Sharpton, etc. I don't care right or left) and if the masses are so stupid to follow (no matter what side of the road you are on) then it became a problem.
I don't have a problem with this guy giving a speech there. Million Americans pays with their lives so this moron have this privilege. The problem is that this people are so alienated that will follow every word that he says, even if he says "jump off the cliff"....
Wish he did!
glav--------Says the person on the Vine at 5:45 am, ranting about a talks show host.
Lol
Martin- Well said! I hate what he has to say, (also hate Palin and Sharpton as well) but I respect his right to say it. Any individual who speaks out of their beehinds just for the sake of hearing their own voice (whether it's from the left or right), annoy the crap out of me, but I deal with it. What *infuriates* me is when people just follow blindly after, embracing their words without knowing the true meaning of the sentences. It's like singing along to a song with a great beat, and you know all the words, but you have no idea what the song is saying. It's a crying shame.
There was not a single mention of Politics last night except that all should believe in the idea of America. I know, pretty "Radical" isnt it?
One of the greatest events I have ever been to in my life. It's not political /I's American at it's best.
It's pretty condescending to categorize everyone who disagrees with a political party a "follower" of another party.
The assumption that all citizens "follow" party leadership of some sort is nothing but an idea promoted by the parties and the media. God forbid that "we the people" should have our own ideas...! And when we do, we are cast into one group or another by those who cannot imagine thinking for themselves.
This divisive tactic of the political parties and media is creating nothing but hatred and separation. It's time for the people of America to disassociate from political parties as much as possible by "outing" those who are careeer politicians, because that is the only way to send the message that the elected are expected to behave as public servants.
What has GB ever said that was hateful or racist? Maybe his show is on another channel as well, but the last couple of years I've been watching him on FOX and he is a patriot, a gentleman whom is compassionate, and a true federalist. You can tell he believes wholeheartedly in what he does. He did call the Immam Obama racist, but that's true. So I don't understand what everyone's up in arms about.
I truly believe that Americans need to turn their trust and loyalty away from Hollywood and Washington, D.C., get past using the word "racist" toward anyone who has a different point of view than themselves, and let the 1/3 of Christian Americans have and live their beliefs without all the hatred; try directing your hatred toward those who deserve that label.
glav, how right you are !
Yes, and they killed Jesus too. Thought he was fomenting insurrection.....hmmmm.
Glav, you're just pissed cause you on the left have no one to follow - no leadership. You're party is in shambles, the far left is not on board with BHO (the Muslim) because he's not far left enough for them. Conservatives don't really have to do a thing - the Dems are screwing up so badly, it's like having them on our side. Wait til November!
So you don't like love, compassion, truth, or beauty. Because thats what glenn beck talks about... hmm, you must hate life? That sucks, you should enjoy life, not be brainwashed by your government. Wake up please :) thank you.
Somehow when people like Beck and Palin are supposed to be demonized but Rangel and Waters are supposed to be held up as pillars who virtue. Then you wonder why the number for the November mid-terms look as bad for the Democrats as they do.
Another who has bought the Republican falsehood that Obama is a Muslim. Give it up. He is a Christian and if you would take the time to investigate you would see this to be true. He is not and never was a Muslim.
Maybe just maybe these people are not followers and also believe the exact same way Glenn does. Is it so hard to fathom that out of 300 million people there just maybe 100k that believe in the cause and are not followers but also doers? You bleeding hearts can't have it both ways, freedom of speech is freedom of speech for all. Because he does not believe in the direction our current leader is taking us you call him a racist. Just as the Hispanics called Lou Dobbs a racist even though he is married to a Hispanic woman. Apparently as many here seem to post, it is ok to have a free voice as long as it agrees with my voice otherwise he is a racist, fear mongering right wing nut...maybe just maybe some of you could be left wing nuts? See two opinions can resort to childish name calling.
Is it so bad to believe in the Holy Bible and try to follow its teachings? What is you fear of this mans right to do so. Afraid you might have to believe as he does? Is it really your fear he may be right, is that why he is a fear monger? I do not listen to him but I will defend his right as an American to do it without repression. MLK was allowed to make a famous speech who would want to reverse that clock and deny him that right too?
Yeah , just like the people who follow Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton!
glav, have you ever read the scripture that a carnal mind can not understand spirtual matters? People with the the thought that the leadership of the congress, the senate. and the president of this great country are leading us in the right direction. is laughable. The leadership we have today is leading us straight to hell literally, and I would be willing to bet you think were headed in the right direction.
I can understand why some people don't like Glenn Beck but I don't understand why so many keep calling him a racist? why? what is racist about him?
Why does Beck not run for President??????
No Hannity, no Rush...all big talkers and not doers.
Ask Beck to run with Palin. Let's see if his and her policies work as they put them in action. I'm guessing their talking is just sound good policy. Trust in God and everything will be ok.
Ok, I'll eat this salmonella egg and trust in God...ooops, I'm sick and dying...God's will.
Very intelligent people we are dealing with here.
Your the true picture of facism!
I hope Beck's rally will draw people closer to their faith and the principles of our founding fathers both of which are country has drifted away from.
Furthermore, I don't think liberals have any right to make fun of the cause. Afterall, 2 - 4 million liberals trampled Washington celebrating the annointed one's innauguration. The cost of the ceremony and following gala was an unprecedented $170,000,000. It required 32,000 millitary personnel, 10,000 charter busses, 4,000 security officers. It also generated a staggering 100 tons of trash.
http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/crazy-trash-aftermath
I'd say it's time for the liberals to find a little peace and tolerance.
"...Beck is a fear monger and a racist." Really? And Al Sharpton isn't? Sharpton hates white people. It's clear in every comment he makes. He's a racist, pure and simple, as is Jesse Jackson. Why is it only whites are considered racist?
The reason why Al Sharpton is outraged because he is jealous that the spotlight is not on him, people.!!! Also Al Sharpton don't like it because Glen Beck is white and this whole march is not about black or white this is about restoring honor and faith to this great nation. With all the corruption going on in Washinton this country is losing face and that is why Glen Beck is trying to bring it back. I am so sick and tired of you ignorant Americans knocking him for doing something positive to help. SHAME ON YOU ALL!
Obviously whatever it is they wanted church didn't make them enough money or really do much so they peddle this in the streets.
The mosque protests refuse to acknowledge or respect Muslims freedom to practice their religion wherever they chose, however- these people who are involved with maligning not just the mosque but Muslims, feel the imperative necessity to tell Muslims to move but refuse to do the same. The whole use of Alveda King is comical, Dr.King would love his brainwashed crack addicted niece regardless and would likely donate the money she gets paid by Fox to charity.
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Glenn Beck is no more a racist than you are a scholar. If you actually listen to him and watch his show and read his books you will see that he is anti violence, anti racism, etc. But no, he is marked a racist by alarmists who don't even listen to what he is saying because you think he might disagree with our "President" who walks around with his nose in the air and takes 9 vacations and spends hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars on a weekend with his wife while hard working Americans are struggling to keep their businesses open.
Bring some integrity back to this country. This country was founded on the ideas of small federal government and state and personal rights. Obama is the pied piper and people follow blindly, following and being proud only because he is half black, so they can tout themselves as enlightened and non racist, and anyone that disagrees with Obama is racist. It is in fact racist to say that those do not agree with a megalomaniacal president are racist. Maybe they just don't agree with him.
It is not the government's job to bail people out. We need to start producing some product and raise the GDP ( do you even remember what that is?) People need to get off their PC high horse and get back to work to put this country back on a good economic track. Stop playing the race card. None of us had slaves, we don't care what color you are. Quit being afraid of disagreeing with someone because they are a different color. What a miserable life to lead, just sitting around trying to figure out why you are getting screwed by someone you don't even know anything about. People do things in the name of Dr. King that he would be ashamed of. His dream is not celebrated, it is exploited. His dream was that all men live together equally, there is some responsibility on the parts of all races to make this happen. Grow up people.
Ignorance may be bliss, but it will ruin this country.
Doesn't the bible(Revelations?) warn about those standing on a pulpit pretending/professing to be doing "God's will"?
Doesn't the bible(Revelations?) warn about those standing on a pulpit pretending/professing to be doing "God's will"?
If Beck is really concerned about going "back to God", he will donate ALL his money to organizations that help people, and live like Jesus did(simple robes and no luxuries).
Anybody who lives in luxury, yet claims to be doing "God's work"(like con artist televangelists), more than likely follows the devil, not God. Money and riches are the devil's temptations, not rewards from God.
If Beck is really concerned about going "back to God", he will donate ALL his money to organizations that help people, and live like Jesus did(simple robes and no luxuries).
Anybody who lives in luxury, yet claims to be doing "God's work"(like con artist televangelists), more than likely follows the devil, not God. Money and riches are the devil's temptations, not rewards from God.
Real followers of the God, will never follow a human(an obvious con man) claiming to be doing "God's work".
Some of the most moral people I've known, weren't religious. Some of the most hateful/ignorant/immoral people I've know, claimed to be "christian". If you need the threat of hell/eternal damnation as your motivation to be kind/fair to others, then you have issues.
Sorry about the double lines in my post. I tried to add something, and it doubled some of my sentences.
This country needs something. It is headed in the wrong direction. I am looking forward to see what Beck has to say.
Beck has a passion to see American renew it's honor and faith. What is wrong with that?! I agree with waiting and listening to what he has to say. Do you see fools like Al Sharpton and Jessy Jackson coming up with solutions other than the same old hate talk? We need to turn our hearts toward our creator and learn to love others in order to have peace.
Yes, have peace by warning the rally goers of the "bad" sections of town filled with those filthy immigrants--and maybe even some Muslims, Africans or Arabs. You can't talk the talk if you won't walk the talk (peace for all--except those we don't like or trust, they're just too scary).
Glenn Beck is in the same damn category as Jackson and Sharpton, just on the opposite end of the political spectrum.
Jerry- Thank You for making more sense then some of these ignorant people who are so quick to pass judgment. I don't see any of the liberal media just joining in on the occasion just for unity. I know MLK would want that. MLK 's niece is going to be at GLEN BECKS RALLY and thinks that those who are against it are just plain IGNORANT ACCORDING TO WHAT SHE SAYS.!
There is a lot of hypocrisy here. Please, someone who knows DC, step up, be honorable, and tell the folks about the bad sections in DC. Name them and describe them. Every big city has its bad sections. The cops are so afraid to go into certain neighborhoods in DC that when they do go in, three cars at a time go in.
I totally agree ... his agenda is "for the good" -- it is not for political gain or a fat bonus check
When I visited Washington, D.C., a couple of years ago, I was walking through sections of the city after dark looking for a subway station without realizing the danger I was in. A BLACK cop approached to advise me against walking through certain areas like the one I was in (Southeast D.C.), and I thanked him for his concern.
So, was that cop a racist or a bigot, or was he just looking out for a traveller unfamiliar with the inner city? According to many unhinged authors on this thread, that BLACK cop must have been a hate-filled racist! How absurd!
Whatever you call him, I'm glad that cop was around to offer practical advice; he knew the city's dangerous areas far better than I did. He directed me to the subway station a few blocks away and even escorted me part of the way to it before he returned to his beat.
LPV @ I LOVE YOU!!! They are both opposite sides of the same coin, one on the right and one on the left. It KILLS me that we see people criticizing AS's commentary and taking GB's words as truth or wanting a change.
They both use and distort information to further their own agenda !! (mostly paychecks!!)
Those who don't believe that, I have some great waterfront property in the New Orleans area to sell you.......
I'm guessing a lot of third grade history stuff...Like Johnny Appleseed and Pecos Bill and George Washing did ot tell and lie. (Actually, Washington had more affairs than a Vegas prostitute)
Unbelievable is unbelievably correct. Anyone who embraces extremism has lost sight of the true picture. What this country needs at this point is not necessarily more faith in religion but more faith in its people. We need to level the playing field so that the 'American Dream' is reachable by all, not just the wealthy few.
The American Dream is not Self-Indulgence but Self-Satisfaction; the ability to lead a comfortable life based on one's honest efforts. Now it has become a 'Keeping AHEAD of the Joneses' trend. Not the realization of one's worth but the Pride (a sin I believe) in one's wealth.
When Satan, the Anti-Christ finally does step forward he will show a face of righteousness and hide behind a shield of morality. In this way you can follow him to your self-indulgent damnation.
Why was this comment collapsed?
He wants all Americans to become Mormons and tithe to the Mormon cult.
I never heard him say that.. Did you just make it up??
A: The Mormon church is not a cult. (Anymore than any other Christian religion)
B: This is hardly about money.
I take you are Mormon?
No more of a cult than any other religion. If what you say about Mormons is true, the Catholics are the biggest cult of all. I respect Mormons for following their convictions and serving Jesus Christ and taking care of people like Jesus would. Even if I don't agree with everything they think they need to do to gain salvation, I do respect them. I've done the research and their people walk the walk better than most other religions.
Considering the dictionary definition of the word cult... I would say that it is a cult, as much so as every other formal religious gathering is.
Mormonism is a cult just like Scientology and the other 'Christian' faiths agree. Ask any of them.
Howard, you might owe me a new laptop. I read your comment and spit coffee all over my keyboard I was laughing so damn hard. The 'mormon cult'? I cant help but picture the BYU football team killing a goat and drinking its blood before its first game.
The man is an entertainer, just like the rest of them. I have watched his show, and while based on fact (more than most actually), there is spin there to meet his goals. Ask an accountant, he/she will tell you that you can make numbers say anything you want, the same goes for history. You can make history say anything you want it to. I had a history teacher play the devils advocate on many issues, twisting little facts here and there, still telling the truth, to come to outrageous conclusions....its not hard. He has made a living doing it, just like Olberman, Maddow, Hannity, Limbaugh and the myriad of other entertainers. Lets just watch what he does...he is claiming its for the families of fallen Special Operations Soldiers, if thats the case, then fine. If he goes over the deep end, then by all means, fillet him on these message boards.
Howardusa- I think your ignorant and stupid for making this comment. First of all Mormons are Christians and his religion has nothing to do with this issue. Your talking out of your BUTT!
You are an idiot.
Considering that the issue he's raising is taking away religious freedom from anyone outside his own faith I would say you are... wrong to say the least.
I refuse to listen to or support ANY person who tells me I need to bow on my knees and pray to God to be an honorable American. I don't believe in God or religion or any of it's false stories. I do lead a moral life and follow the rules/laws imposed on me which by the way take away those freedoms that God said were my unalienable rights you preach all the time. That is just another way to scare the followers to keep following. Sorry Mr Beck, you need to rethink your fear mongering ways to getting all Americans united. This is a diverse nation and has a very a diverse religious populous which has grown 100 fold from when the founding fathers drew up the Constitution God is no longer a way to unite people. Telling the TRUTH is so why do you lie so well.
You people do know the in the Mormon religion, Men are suppose to become gods and get their own planet and that their families and followers get called up to his planet right? Mormon religion is not Christian, the Bible says there is only ONE GOD! Beck is trying to create his people for he thinks he is going to become a god.
Do any of you know that Mormons have their own book they follow just as much as the bible?
They also follow the word of a supposed prophet(a white man who lived here in the US).
Any group that believes/lives and judges others by the writings of other humans and belief in things they can't prove, can be defined as a cult.
Beck is on the same level as Scientologists are.
Sicken, where did you get this crazy information from? I've got Mormon friends and took the time to read the Book of Mormon and their doctrine books. I haven't seen anything that says what you say is the truth. This is certainly not what they teach. I find it difficult to believe you cast the Mormons as non-Christian when all they talk about is Jesus Christ and end all of their prayers in the name of Jesus Christ. Have you ever been to one of their temple visitor centers or meeting houses? The walls are adorned with pictures of Jesus and there are huge beautiful statues of Jesus with his hands stretched toward the masses. What gives? Are you talking from any experience or just from what somebody else told you? Educate yourself. If you don't, shame on you.
I've had discussions with Mormon missionaries and yes. I've read through the "Book of Mormon", which is just fiction.
For one, Jesus told his followers not to worship him as God or worship symbols/images.
Supposedly, the prophet Mormon's writings were translated by Joseph Smith Jr.(another huckster.
So the book of Mormon is based on prophetical translations of a white dude. Sure. Believe it if you are that gullible.
Gottalovem
You are the one that is UNEDUCATED! My husband is an ex-mormon, his whole family is mormon, and yes what I speak are FACTS! So you need to educate yourself! Mormons even have secret names given to them in their temples, these names are for when they get called up to their heavenly planets, all the women need their husbands permission to go to these heavenly planets also. There is a lot more also and yes I have done all my research due to my children having grandparents that are Mormon.
Tithing was mentioned but it wasn't in reference to a certain church, he told all to go to their place of worship and tithe to help their churches ministry to reach out and help the community.....some people just don't or haven't learned how to listen.....
What a bigot!
Where was Beck and his movement when GWB was screwing up the country?
the present US president is the one ruining the USA not the pervious one
If you actually watched or listened to Glenn Beck you would know the answer - he was speaking (and still does) just as loudly against all corruption and out of control government and outrageous spending.
As I see, both side are to blame.
It always a two way street as well.
Beck was on CNN (Communist News Network) during the George W. Bush presidency. I suppose someone who knows so little about the subject (Beck) but continues to comment, displays what a blithering idiot they are.
yeah, Obama inherited a country with a fantastic economy and a surplus, and destroyed it. Wait, that was party boy Bush.
Well, let's not allow the facts to ruin our celebration of Lipstick!!!
You, just weren't paying attention, as long as he wasn't hammering Obama.
It was only, when he started pointig out, how inept, the quasi socialist in the white house is, that you noticed.
my man- Glend Beck was coming down of GWB when he was at CNN, I know I was there.
What you wrote makes no sense. Try English for once.
I'm curious. Everyone blames Bush for screwing up the Economy. Which new laws governing the manner in which business was conducted - the ones that caused the economy to crash - did GWB push through and pass?
It seems to me that the housing boom was caused by rewrites of lending rules that were enacted under Clinton.
An MSNBC article yesterday placed the start of this recession immediately after our current president was elected. He laid out all of his plans to squash the greedy, evil, business folks and all of their practices. The response was to accelerate the withdraw of thier money from US investments in order to protect themselves. Until he's gone and business as usual can go on, we are going to stay in a recession. It's not rocket science.
That being said, Beck's religious revival scares me as well. The nonsense being tossed around about racism and the Tea Party also scares me. Unfortunately, I can believe how far the media seems to be willing to go to demonize people that they don't agree with. I'm watching it happen. It's been pushed to the hilt - first against Bush when he was in office, now against anyone that has a different point of view than the nonsense being thrown at us from the Dems.
When Government tells us how to think, what to think, and how to act, and they use articles like this to do it, it's called propoganda, not news.
That's right BBYANKO, it is all Bush's fault. That's all you weak minded fools can come up with. And I suppose you believe King Obama has everything properly in control.
actually, My Man he has said on MULTIPLE OCCASIONS Bush is at fault for his part. Perhaps you should listen to him before passing judgment
I SURVIVED Kennedy, Johnson, Carter and Clinton, I prospered with Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan and Bush I/Bush II. I question if I survive Obama.
Tizzy, the facts are just an inconvenient truth to the left. I see rants with a whole lot of name calling and charges out of left field but very little factual support. Bush did overspend but he was not near what the Democrats have done. Just look at the deficit number. Obama has spent almost three time that of Bush in two years. His Stimulus package which produced very little cost more than both wars
Beck was screaming at the top of his voice about GWB screwing up this country. You have very adequately showed your bias and your ignorance. Here's an idea... instead of listening to people that have an agenda, why not get some damn facts yourself. That's the problem with facts... they can be so inconvenient. If you were to listen to this guy for just one week you would see he is not about getting Republicans elected like some on Fox News. He has as much disdain for Republicans as he does for Democrats. Instead of assuming that because someone is spoken of poorly in the press that he is a racist... why not listen and form your own opinion based on the facts?
That is correct Don-631756. I don't agree 100% with Beck, but I can tell you he gives facts that you can research & find are true. Unfortunately a lot of so called news commit-taters are just that they commit on the news with their or the producers opinions. In today's environment it makes sense to other than just listen to what a person has to say & take it as the truth. Please take the time everyone to listen & do some research on your own. May your days be filled with joy & prosperity.
Tyler
Why are you allowing all of this collapsing of valid opinions?????????
The same old progressive crap. Look blame and assess blame to justify your insane policy
To My Man, the o.p. of this thread.. I just like a number of other posters have heard Mr. Beck speak negatively about the former president and about both parties. The thing I believe that makes the media really mad about Mr. Beck is that he does his homework and encourages listeners and viewers to do the same You know instead of just being force feed b.s. by the media.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which can not fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
--HERBERT SPENCER
He collapsers - do you want Tyler to end the ability to collapse honor violators? This is a PUBLIC and Free speach outlet and the better one on the NET. Stop abusing the priviledge simply because you don't agree!
Tyler could you give the some proven viners the ability to email to you to correct these politically motivated collapses when spotted?
I don't know why so many liberals want to blast this rally when just two years ago they congregated in drones to celebrate false hope and change.
2- 4 million liberals congregated in Washington to glorify and honor our first black president. The cost of the innauguration ceremony and subsequent gala was an unprecedented $170,000,000. It required 32,000 millitary personnel, 4,000 police officers and generated 100 tons of garbage. (See picture attached) Actually, the garbage is still accruing.
Many conservatives thought Obama's innauguration ceremony and subsequent gala was lavish, and arrogant during such harsh economic times. If the conservatives want to peacefully congregate, it's their right and it's not racism.
Let's just hope they clean up after themselves.
http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/crazy-trash-aftermath
I'm surprised MSNBC.com is advertising for Beck's show again.
I've listened to Glenn Beck as long as I could stand it one day. If you truly believe he is not racist then you haven't listened to him at all. And, if you listen to him you'll know you can only be a Christian if you believe the way he does - which I don't and I am a Christian. He is about tearing our country down, not trying to build it up. According to him if you don't believe and act as he does, you're not a true American. He is so far outside the norm he is pathetic. And, I love how he has masked this rally - as support of our troops. Although all the money being raised is to cover expenses first - including his speakers fee as well as Palin's - before any money goes to our military or their families.
Beck appeals to the lowest intellect around and, unfortunately, there are plenty of those.
Beck is one scary individual, people better beware or we will have another Jamestown incident with him!
Of course the liberal rags are going to cover this rally. Glenn is the gift that keeps on giving. Every time he opens his mouth it's just that many more votes for democrats in november.
WELL, I SEE THE COMMENT CENSORS ON BOTH SIDES ARE OUT IN FORCE TODAY, SHAME ON YOU!!!
America, what has become of you. The ignorant and weak that collapse not only some comments but whole sections are truly showing their individual and collective hypocrisy. These communities allow ALL of us to have the privilege and right to express our opinions on the various topics and events occuring in our country and the world. This is what our nations beliefs were built on. This is how we differ from so many other societies whose free speech and free expression have been limited or even worse,,,removed. This is what makes our nation so great and the envy of the rest of the world.
We have these Rights as described in our Constitution. Under the guidance of our Declaration of Independence, we have All been endowed this not by men but by our Faith and Belief in Freedom, Liberty and Justice. These inalienable Rights of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness have come to us under great hardship and loss, much greater than what any person can post here or anywhere else.
When we all walk such a fine line of hypocrisy so as to voice our opinions and beliefs yet deny others that same privelege is when our nation begins to falter. Disagree, debate, discuss but never refuse anyone else the Right to do the same. We all have our individualism and that's what makes us unique, when we combine our thoughts in peaceful and intelligent conversation this is when we become exceptional as Americans.
Beck was arguing against the dems for thier lack of patriotism over the wars, money needed to fund it mattered little to the lives America was protecting. The same rights he claims to fight for mattered little when G.W. took them away from you. You see, whatever one side claims, the other takes the opposite view. It really doesnt matter what the topic is, it is all political play.
Dan - the call on when the recession actually started about the inauguration, but the cause clearly was the mortgage melt down in September and October. The cause of the melt down is traced to the lethal combination of the 1977 Community Reinvestment Act and the 1999 Finance reform Act.
Making bad laws is bad enough, but you have to recognize that the law is bad and change it. The lending problems were revealed by Regulators in Congressional hearings as early as 2003. This included regulators having issues with no down payments, no income requirements, and no accountability of Freddie and Fannie for how they made loans, packaged them, and sold them. This brought a firestorm of criticism of the regulators by members of Congress.
Members of the Republican party, but not all, realized the problem as well as George Bush. Bush requested reform 20 recorded times since his state of the Union address in January 2003. The problem is the majority of members including ALL democrats AND SOME Republicans had no interest in changing anything. NOTHING was wrong according to them.
This stalemate continued through January 2007 despite more and more Republicans coming on board with party leadership. Once the Democrats took over in 2007, All finance reform was tabled at the committee level. Bush, Bernanke, and Paulsen still made calls for changes and nothing was done by the New Leadership. NOTHING!
If you look at month by month numbers, unemployment stopped falling in 2006 and began to rise about June 2007. This is VERY important to note. Higher risk Businesses about March of 2007 started getting delayed or turned down for financing new projects.
This is because the falsely labeled toxic mortgages were starting to fail causing their ability to make loans to decrease. Banks knew they had been had and had no recourse because the loans were mainly from Freddie and Fannie. Some insured the mortgages using the same packaging used to get them to purchase the loans (caused AIG to go bankrupt). Some sat on them hoping they wouldn't bankrupt themselves, some sold as many as possible them before they "blew up". Some "creatively" reclassified to sell them.
The whole thing blew up when the international banking group, which George Soros is involved in, cashed in 500 Billion dollars in Treasuries in just 2 hours. This was over the toxic loans made by Freddie and Fannie that were sold to American banks who they had invested in. It was about - you deceived us - we insist that you back up the loans to save our investment. There is a huge amount of TARP money that went overseas and we don't know who to.
Once this blew, we were assured of a major recession until we can recover from the losses. The real problem right now is government wants business to expand while it is enslaving them with more rules, regulations, built in escalation of costs and new taxes. Translation we are now going to be here for a good long while unless something changes. Hopefully we don't drown instead.
@RogueUSA - God Bless You. Sir! Regardless of what faith, political leaning, race, gender, or ethnicity you may hail from!
Can you offer an example of Bush "screwing up the country"? Who told you he did? You do realize that unlike Obama, Bush had a Congress and Senate controlled by Democrats. He couldnt do whatever he wanted to do as can Obama. Most people blame Bush for the Financial Problem are ignorant of the reality of what went on, but it you watch CPAN from that time you will see Republicans trying to get legislation passed to put restrictions on the risky mortgage packages that ultimately caused the finacial problem. You will also see the Democrats over the Finance Committee denying anything needed to be done. Of course, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac was making large campaign contributions to the very same Democrats, so is it any wonder they were defending their right to pursue reckless financial products. Just follow the money and you will find out all the Democrats care about : money and power!
I cannot imagine how Americans can be so gullible. Listening to all this Beck rubbish that somehow only became an issue when President Obama was installed, but was perfectly okay when Bush was in charge.
If you listened before, you would know that he was just as vocal about GWB's shortcomings.
J Dixon-2271304 banned, one-and-done.
Saturday. I was moving.
Glav..........
Beck is not a fear monger nor a rasist. Back it up with examples ,not just empty words
Have you been in a cave? When has Glenn Beck NOT been a fear monger?
I take it you opted for the empty words route?
On Fox Beck said Obama was a racist.
and the 911 families were whiners.
@S-480203: Typical progressive resonse. Can't debate intelligently so we'll just villify someone or something they have no facts about. That's getting really, really boorish and old.
If you goggle "Glenn Beck Lies" you can get your choice of sources.
mmmmm empty words
That's because the responses are liberal-based
Hey wonder who - I wonder who came up with those Glenn Beck Lies?? If you don't watch him or listen to him other than sound bites, then you are the ignorant one.
wonder, you have it wrong. Beck said some of Obama's policies appear to favor one group at the cost of discriminating against another group. In his view, these programs would appear to be racist. He never called Obama racist. He thought some policies were.
Oh - If you "goggle" it, it must be true. I just "goggled" Obama is incompetent and I found a whole host of examples but I think I'll come to my own conclusions and not use the internet as my only source for forming opinions.
Ok, I've given it some thought..."Obama is incompetent".
It's funny to visualize all you liberals scurrying to your mommy's basement or prison libraries while stoking your bongs to write your meaningless dribble about the DC rally for the Huff Post
If predictions are right, the economy is going to get much worst, and unemployment will continue to get worst and crime will increase substantially. Be prepared to protect yourself, your family and property.
WE WILL TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK IN NOVEMBER AND 2012
Soak it up now folks. You're going to be disappointed in November.
wonder:
Statement invalid.
It might be your side that said it. There are always whiners, when there are winners. Glenn Beck will be written in the History Books for being a Civilian who had the guts to say and act upon what 3/4 of this Nation is struggling with---It is the 1960's again!---another Revolution and Civil Uprising for the positive.
Envy, jealousy, can't stop people from expressing their Freedoms in the US.
Is Al Sharpton now the Leader of Civil Rights in this country. Who would listen to this negative downer of his own people.
Why don't you go out and rally?
americanwarrior, its always interesting how your types have all these names to call people who don't agree with you, libs, progressives, socialists, marxists. On the left, I mainly use one term for right wingers. Fools! Hawaii2, Glenn Beck will not even be a pimple on the ass of history.
Odd about the accusations that Beck is a liar. When the WH made this claim, FNC sent a letter requesting a list of the 'lies'. It took the WH months to reply and it was an inconsequential mistake that Beck had corrected. This seems to me to be the usual biased attacks culminating in hurling bombs, such as hater, liar, racist, white trash and the like. Hmm, this brings back the memory of the Clinton era tactics, ie, trailer trash. Good grief, if you can't debate on the issue it doesn't help your credibility when you simply resort to calling names hoping to smear someone or a group that you don't agree with.
Dennis, you are certainly dense, You need to get your head out into the fresh air and go look at the inflammatory and defamatory names that you liberals call conservatives and those that oppose socialism
As a matter of fact, YOU are guilty of name calling yourself by using a term such as "right-winger", not to mention "fools" and then saying someone wont even be "a pimple on the ass of history". Go sit in your room until your mommy says you can play with others again.
Dennis:
Our Country, the United States of America wasn't built on your values.
The fact your statement is filled with envy and hate, says things are going to change in 2012, and right now all Libs and Dems are shaking in their boots.
70 per cent of the American people can't be wrong, but you are.
If it weren't Beck you are whining about, how about talking about a President who's been out of office 2 years, George W. Admit it, you don't like anyone's views other than your own. There is no logic. It is sheepish.
Anyone from the Right who takes a prolific stance, is always criticized with foul language, hatred, and blame.
We need to be a little honest here. Right or Left... you have to admit, G. W. Bush was not good. Iraq was a mistake. Any president wanted by eight other countries for war crimes like George W. is not a token the U. S. wants to use for example.
Socialism? The "WE the People", the rePUBLIC-anything, Social-anything; this country was founded on socialism.
Freedom? What freedoms do you have that isn't regulated? Speech? Arms? Health? Wealth? Religion?
Regulated freedom isn't freedom. So, lets digress. Remove the government out of your life. No police, fire, or hospitals. Everyone carries a weapon. Total anarchy.
The debate over government is unrelated to its purpose. The purpose of the government is to referee the rights of one against the other and protect its citizens from harm. Anything like roads and highways, schools, police and fire are benefits our government provides us with our money.
Now, back to Beck. Claiming to get the country back to God allienates all other religions in the country that doesn't call their diety by that name. That is why the base there are all caucasian. Guess what? Whites are a minority in this country. Nobody can be elected without a nonwhite vote. Standing on the steps where MLK spoke of diversity to a crowd that isn't would be considered an insult to all african americans. What political party does Beck represent? They just lost their vote.
How about giving the country back to the Indians and calling it a day?
Here, here
11 deleted, smashmaggot flaming a pretty unspecified Viner to begin a new thread:
Banned, useless.
I've got a much better idea: Read a history book.
You mean the the ones their currently changing ?
Tpokey:
Better idea: READ, something but read. her/she might find that there is something else but FOX News
Rick Nichols: How come that the history books are changing? In yours Confederacy won the civil war? Civil rights movement was a Rock band? How it changes?
Ah!!! we find WMD in IRAQ...!!!!!
You didn't hear about the conservatives in the TX board of ed wiping out all references to Thomas Jefferson in their history books?
So, who was president during the Louisiana Purchase? Didn't that acquire the land that is now Texas? Where do you get your facts?
Why? At least a third of the "facts" in high school textbooks are dead wrong. I know, I teach history and have to make corrections to the students at least twice a week. That's because I ACTUALLY SOMETIMES READ THE SOURCE MATERIAL OR I LIVED THROUGH THE HISTORY!
Chatter wrote: So, who was president during the Louisiana Purchase? Didn't that acquire the land that is now Texas? Where do you get your facts?.........................
Try Thomas Jefferson. No, Texas was NOT part of the Louisiana Purchase from France, Texas was a possession of SPAIN-----NOT THE SPANISH COLONY OF MEXICO. Hey, Chatter, your name says it all....WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR "FACTS"?
Which, by the way, is all that Glenn Beck does. He reads history books and he reads all different kinds of them and he reads the kinds that liberals love too. Just to be well informed. Before you call people names and accuse them of something, you should at least be an example of the perfect character you think they ought to be.
Especially the history books that say all our found fathers were racist and Stalin was a man to be admired.
I dont think the history books say the founding fathers were racists......but they do say that many were slaveholders. If you are distorting "slaveholders" to imply "racist" then you have a comprehension issue........
But there is the little problem of slavery that the founding fathers left on the table so blatantly untouched, for others to figure out later...... Read into that what you will.
Ahem, you suggest read a history book which might be a good start for you. I watch Founder's Fridays on Beck because he has the actual historians who wrote books on American history. He interviews them and encourages viewers to do your own research. History has always been a passion of mine because you need to know where you've been to make good decisions for the future.
WAKE UP Martin!!! They are changing the history books that our children read in school. Instead of editing them for political correctness, our history should be left alone...the truth! Not someone's version of it.
Chatter Please study Texas History. You will find that Mexico controlled the land that became the Independent Nation of Texas before it decided to join the USA. France did not own it.
OT...Check the real history books ...not the one that Texas is stuffing down their kids brains. The Louisianna Purchase was land that began as part of Manifest Destiny...the push from sea to shining sea. Texas was part of Mexico and only annexed after the Mexican American war. Swagger swagger boom boom...not working is it? Methinks you fell into that 10-gallon hat full of BS.
TPokey,
So now you are falling for the Glenn Beck Lunatic Society playing victim and blaming blacks and immigrants for the shortcomings of you and the rest of the losers. The only legitimate complaint you might have is you may end up paying higher taxes for healthcare - OH MY! This pales in comparison to what blacks faced and yet you and the rest of the buffoons complain the loudest and play victim like you were being tortured.
Cani't wait to see how you twist things around and blame blacks for the meth and pediphile epidemic which you people seem unwilling to address but raise holy war over taxes.
Happy Marching
People are so hung up on saying that we need to go back to the values withheld by our founding fathers. Have you done much true research on these people? Many of them were just as corrupt or more so than people today. Things were just more acceptable back then. Wife beating, adultery, racism...these things were commonplace back in those times and who wants to write in a history book the truth and deface what people try to believe were the truly moral times and stand against manipulators like Glen Beck?
ewent you need to reread history as your facts are twisted.louisianna purchase was land sold us by france and texas joined the union well after having achived its independence. the mexican american war came about because the mexicans didnt like where we placed the border after texas joined the union.
befuddled..Yes. I know that the deal for the land of the Louisianna Purchase was with France. Duh. And from whom did Texas gain its independence if not Mexico? Who fought the Mexican American war and over what? Texas is one of this country's most backward states because those good ole bwahs down there still think they have cannonballs where their raisins are.
The founding fathers didn't leave the slave issue blatantly untouched. If you read any of their letters, autobiographies and biographies you will discover that the issue was hotly debated. Dr. Benjamin Rush and Robert Morris as well as others such as John Adams were adamantly against slavery and the slave trade. Dr. Rush, with others, made several attempts to abolish it. Thomas Jefferson, and others from the southern states, were not of the same mind so slavery remained. At the time, our founders had so many other problems like national currency, funding a new nation, approving a constitution, protecting our borders, etc. that this issue was not resolved. Does that make them racists? I don't think so. Unfortunately sometimes you have to accomplish what you are able and put your trust in your posterity to be able to accomplish what you could not. These men kept this nation together when all the world was waiting to take what they could when it fell apart. That had to happen before the slave issue could ever be resolved.
and yet you imply that the us annexed texas as part of the mexican american war. perhaps you should save the duh for yourself. you leftwing nut jobs and your unbridled hate for anything outside your comfort zone is rather odd.
What history book? The American history book according to Obama? Billy Ayers? Hillary Clinton? Al Sharpton? hheheheheheh...NO THANKS!
Oh and just in case you're thinking of using a 'racist' crack at me, look at that list. Are Bill Ayers and Hillary Clinton black? Ah no, they are white. Then here's some other news for you, Pres. Obama is also part white, and only a quarter black!
You didn't hear about the conservatives in the TX board of ed wiping out all references to Thomas Jefferson in their history books?
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Are they really doing that?? Wow, mindboggling...all this just makes me shake my head...Glenn Beck is a man who might have his heart in the right place, but I can't believe he chose to speak on the anniversity of MLK, Jr.'s famous speech right in the same spot! Add that to the racism in Missipippi in that middle school where only whites could be class president...all this craziness is...craziness! What is wrong with you people?!? History brought us here and we are fighting our way into oblivion and all the terrorists and commies and anti-americans are just partying right now, cuz they know we're goin to hell in a handbasket just cuz we rather fight amongst ourselves instead of recognizing our differences and overcoming them to meet somewhere in the middle. What the hell do I tell my children??? You people are freakin nuts and I hope my kids don't turn out like any of you fingerpointing crazy freaks.
befuddled...No one knows anything but a Texan. So...YOu want to explain how your Ahole Texan president with the Harvard MBA managed a financial meltdown that nearly brought the banks around the world down in 2008? You want to explain why nearly all of the Bush's policies benefitted Texas and only Texas Big Business and it's the reason Texas didn't have the same unemployment problems as the rest of the country? Texas Big Oil is Big BS. But, I am thoroughly thrilled to say you Big Oil boys are on your way out. Oh sure...you might get to drill enough to keep diesel for trucks and possibly airlines. But sugarfoot, solar energy is fast replacing your Big Oil Aholes.
ewent...cling to the lies....Of course we will all believe that the leftists in government had nothing to do with the housing crash and the economy crash.....Tell us more lies....
JA...Actually, the housing crisis had NOTHING to do with right or left and everything to do with greed. That's an ideology unto itself. When a single man can extort $68 billion from his investors for 17 years and no one noticed...not the bankers he dealt with, not the SEC, you can bet your boodle it was the ideology of a single man believing he was more entitled than anyone on the planet to have it all. That's where Beck is headed.
The left didn't have a single thing to do with the Financial Meltdown. Bush owns that one. He had 8 years and the entire Supreme Court under his thumb. All he thought about was playing global cowboy...Swagger swagger boom boom.
i see ewent i point out your historical ineptitude and you go into an internet nerdrage carry on...
befuddled..I see you have a need to publicize your perceived superiority. Most white male supremacists do. I know what MY history books tell me. I also know that in Texas, there is a deep seated move to insure that history is reinvented. But then, of course, it would be wouldn't it after a jerk like Bush?
Texas was considered disputed territory after the Louisiana Purchase. Jefferson thought the Purchase went to the Rio Grande, and contained about half of Texas, while Spain (Mexico would not gain its independence from Spain for another 20 years) claimed that the border was the Red River. As such, we signed a treaty with Spain that declared the border to be the Red River. When Mexico gained its independence from Spain, Mexico allowed some Americans to settle in Northeastern Texas, but many Americans settled illegally in that part of Mexico. The Mexicans saw that Americans were planning to steal Texas from Mexico, so they put more stringent restrictions on the Texans, which is when Texas (which still had a majority Mexican population, though white Americans had all the power) rebelled and somehow checkmated Mexico (remember - Texas LOST at the Alamo, and actually all major battles until the final battle). Still, though, at this time, Gen. Santa Anna was dismissed from his post without his knowledge, and, as such, Texas's independence was recognized by the United States and Texas, but not by Mexico itself. In addition, Texas claimed that its borders went to the Rio Grande, while Mexico did not. This wasn't a problem until the US annexed Texas, and then-President Polk sent soldiers to the disputed territory, knowing full well that they would be shot at by the Mexican soldiers. When they got shot at, Pres. Polk went to the Senate, and asked them to declare war on Mexico, which they did - to some very vocal opposition, especially from one Rep. from Illinois named Abraham Lincoln (yes, THAT Abraham Lincoln). When the US easily defeated Mexico in only a few months, the opponents (who were justified in their opposition) looked stupid. Still, it was the aftermath of the Mexican-American War that forced the Compromise of 1850 (without which, the Civil War would have taken place 10 years earlier and probably with a much different result).
Did anyone making these comments watch the rally? It will be on C-SPAN again tonight and on Monday. Glenn is crazy!!! Look at what he did and said at the event:
How dare Glenn Beck raise $5.5 million for our military families who have lost loved ones at war.
How dare Glenn Beck ask Americans to look to God.
How dare Glenn Beck honor and recognize those who are making a difference in our nation by truly giving of their time, their talents, and their lives to helping others.
How dare Glenn Beck ask us to stand up for what we truly believe in and take a stand for what is good and right?
How dare Glenn Beck ask Hundreds of Thousands (not tens of thousands) of people to come to Washington DC on the same date that MKL spoke to ask everyone to strive to become honorable like Martin Luther King.
How dare Glenn Beck ask that nobody make this a political event, but rather an event about FAITH, HOPE , AND CHARITY and most importantly……GOD.
How dare Glenn Beck honor Martin Luther King and the hundreds of Thousands who cheered for him every time Martin Luther King was shown on a big screen, I mean that is only the right of the black people right?
One questions, if Glenn Beck was promoting goodness, helping others, and ultimately turning to GOD, and you are fighting against him in the message he gave TODAY…….what and who are you fighting for? Just a thought.
Who else has been able to bring 240 preachers from different faiths across America to stand together locking arms, ALL in agreement that we need to turn to God. That should be one thing we can all agree on.
Ok kids heres your history lesson Texas was aquired during the Spanish American war along with several other states. Googel Spanish American War do not go to Wink a pedia they are not a relyable source.
You're right..Of course it's best to start at the beginning where there's just truth, no "left" or "right" Anglo-Americans like myself were allowed by the Mexicans to emigrate into their province of Texas...but we had to promise two things: We would convert to their state religion at the time ( Catholicism-we lied and said we would ) and 2. we would be good guests and not revolt against the Mexican govt. ( we lied and said we wouldn't )...Now, the Mexican-American war was the conclusion of what was started in 1836..To pretend otherwise is dishonest..And truth be told, The Mexican-American War was an anti-Catholic land-grab...Not surprising since all of our wars have been driven by a fusion of 1. greed 2. anti-catholicism ( Mexico, Spain )..3. white supremacy and since 1990 4. Israel's long-term security and expansion..Beck supported Bush's 2 trillion dollar unnecessary, unprovoked and illegal invasion of Iraq..Where's the fiscal conservatism? He's for "free" trade..which has wiped-out our manuf base and plenty of jobs..He's lied about 9-11-he supports the Warren..er, I mean the 9-11 Commission report....( 9-11 was a Mossad/Mossad asset/rogue CIA false-flag terror op..like the 7/7 MI-6 bombing in London ) With "conservatives" like Beck soon there won't be anything left to conserve..
yeah, read a history book, no revisionism or redacted text there. And agree with the federal govt. You won't be misled there. How about MSNBC....you'll never get a slanted message or facts left out of thier reporting. Beck interviews historians, men and women of good will to speak on history. Our founding fathers were men of God and goodwill. The text of the declaration of independence gives us the origin of our freedom. Written and attested to by the founding fathers.
I have learned a alot about history people from Beck's show which our schools have never taught us. Some of you anti- Beck haters out there are pathetic. You all are pitiful, your so quick to judge for a guy who cares about his country and wants to do something positive and good and you all kick him down. I say to you all WHAT HAVE YOU EVER DONE? This country has lost its way on so much & our government is destroying it. If you liberal Glen Beck haters don't like him thats fine but keep your nasty ignorant comments to yourself please. I am so sick and tired of hearing all the negatives including from MSNBC who fears him especially from the far left. Glen Beck pointed out about a few radical's who are surrounding this president who are dangerous like VAN JONES/ANITA DUNN which you people need to do some research of how these people think. Maybe you need to wake up. I may not agree with some of Glen Becks Views but he also brought out some good points on some issues. Before your so quick to judge me I am a proud Conservative Independent.
Right now I am sure the founding fathers of this country. Are turning in there graves. Because of the direction on where this country is going!
If you owned a another person as a slave, because they weren't the same color as you are and you thought them inferior to yourself, that is RACISM/BIGOTRY. Plain and simple.
If Beck reads so much "history", then why is 75% of the hot air coming out of his mouth, just his own personal opinion and/or lies/exaggerations?
When Beck presents proof of his version of history(which he never has to this day), then all those who kiss his backside can say they actually learned the truth from him.
Yep. The housing crisis resulted from Republican lead efforts to deregulate the banks, which allowed them to make high risk loans that were great while real estate prices soared, but which caused a meltdown when the real estate bubble burst - and that burst in 2006, when Bush was still in office. The Republicans also pushed capital gains tax cuts that helped fuel the real estate bubble.
Also, with repeated tax cuts benefitting mainly the rich, and increased government spending mainly benefitting big corporations, and an unnecessary war, the Bush jr. era saw a doubling of the national debt from 5 to 10 trillion dollars, soaking up investment capitol so small businesses had trouble getting loans. It also didn't help that just about any job that could be outsourced overseas was, leading to steadily climbing unemployment.
The Republicans also pushed through a special tax credit for the purchase of oversized SUVs, increasing gasoline consumption and causing a spike in gas prices, up to $4 a gallon. That of course lead to the oil companies making record profits every year for nearly a decade, but causing a major economic loss to the rest of the country. Bush also cancelled the Clinton era "Partnership for Next Generation Vehicles" that was supposed to lead to more efficient cars in favor of a hydrogen car program that has consumed vast anounts of government funds but is still years, perhaps decades away from producing any vehicles for sale.
And all that happened while Republicans controlled Congress and the Presidency. It's going to take this "liberal" government some time to fix the mess, especially since the Republicans are being obstructionists and are still trying to perpetuate the same failed policies.
The Demcraps have held the SENATE AND CONGRESS FOR 4 YEARS!
So which BILL did BUSH VETO that would have averted the recession?
All they can do is spend money. The entire DEMOCRAP playbook : SPEND OTHER PEOPLE'S HARD EARNED MONEY.
Forget restoring honor, we've got to get rid of those liberals to restore SANITY in WASHINGTON.
Glen Beck's rally is unmitigated hubris. The very idea that someone of his political bent and uneducated blatherings should speak in the very place of MLK's great "I have a dream..." speech is unthinkable. MLK and Lincoln must be turning in their graves. Signs with Hitler mustaches on Obama, and other rageful signs at the rally prove who these people are. Makes me ashamed to be American. And they speak as if they own god. Who do they think they are, the fools.
Behind you all the way, ewent.
CM- The housing crisis was the result of a Democratic congress way back in the 90's who passed laws that in essence said " fannie and freddy" must back loans to people to buy house they know they can't afford, because owning a house is something the Government must do as it is a basic human right. It was a leftist policy, that was created by a left Congress.
Champion of that- Chris Dodd and Barney Frank. Even Barney frank now says that was wrong, and a mistake.
Throughout history hundreds of thousands of people have been slain whenever the word God is invoked.
You got a solar powered car YET. I have lived in Texas most of my life and it is the only state that has had 6 different flags fly within it;s borders. U.S., France, Spain, Mexican, Texas and Confederate. There is allot of history in this state. We became a state after being a Republic for a period of about 10 yrs. The border was to have run from the mouth of the Rio Grand river to the gulf. Follow our river and you would be surprised because it stars in Wyoming Denver was in Texas as well as Santa Fe. We had the largest Ranch in the world until someone fenced in part of the outback.
Michael Bishop, interesting comment.
Millions and Millions of people have been killed when they forget about God. The 20th century was a testament to that fact. (Germany, USSR, China.....all Godless) They consisted of Godless Communism and then Hitler who said, and I quote: "It's not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death."
Keep in mind "God's anger is not kindled when we hurt him, his anger is kindled when we hurt ourselves".
never heard that before, in general every side thinks God is on their side. Religion has killed millions. our founding fathers knew the danger of religion in government, they remember well the dark ages and the killings. they wished it not on their country. religion is for the individual and not for the government, God could care less the action of the country, its the people that count to God.
Orbust, when the panties are finally straightened out; will you still insist on sniffing them or do you only do that after they have been used.
actually what this country needs is way less....no make that no bible thumping. It makes rational discourse impossible.
I'm tired of the ad hominem arguments on both sides attacking Palin, Obama , and Beck although I dont agree with Palin or Glenn Beck for their idea that this country should be a "country of god again." Again you mean before it was a country i only remember the seperation of church and state by Jefferson (a deist) along with many other diests and protestants who had seen what the church of england and the catholic church had done. Although many colonies had many radical puritans and seperatists with self-government they too had seperated from the church of england.
another thing i disagree with is Palin's rhetoric she had no ethos (respect based on the speakers "credentials" from the listener) with me, she showed no belief in her speech when talking about Martin Luther King jr. or Lincoln and about their courage and the quote that she made about the people at the rally had the moral courage of both of these great men was completely irrelevent. Both of them stood up for what they believed was right at the cost of death, the most these people have to lose is their respect from their friends and families for listening to Beck and Palin's lies and political dogma about the government and the current administration.
But Obama and his administration are nowhere near perfect they have created a few laws and pushed a few bills that werent neccasary at the time but then again when people say Bush caused all this thats not true he really just sat there and did nothing (except start a mutli-billion dollar war) while his administration and the democratic majority in the senate cuased an even larger defecit by not taxing more too pay for the war that ended up being worthless as there were and still arent any WMDs in Iraq or afghanisthan. so a combination of stupid tactical planing by starting a war caused by accusations of 9/11 attacks and not taxing for the most expensive war in American history caused our downward spiral.
So instead of praying to god or obama, or Beck and Palin to pull through let's vote to tax more, end this pointless war, and quit complaining.
Unbelievable - The Forefathers put the slave voting designation in because there would be no United States Constitution if there were no compromise. The Articles of Confederations were causing the union to fall apart. Through the other writings they only put that in the constitution because they thought that slavery would die out in 20 or 30 years.
The Spanish American War took place in 1898, well after the Civil War (remember Teddy Roosevelt and San Juan Hill?) You are thinking of the War for Texas Independence (1835-1836), which was followed by the Mexican War, which ended in 1848 with the Treaty of Guadeloupe Hidalgo. Texas was independence for a short time before it entered the Union as a slave state.
beck and all these sick REPUBLICANS need to take a real look at who tore up america. americans as a whole need to wake up and realize that things dont happen in a day, month, year everything takes time. did we as people forget that we were at war before obama stepped into office and the economy was in turmoil before the big switch, now everyone wants to blame obama for whats happening instead of staying by what they chosed. just like when everyone voted for bush. he had more supporters than non supporters when he practically destroyed what was left. stop as people trying to find someone to blame and blame these idiots that have one gold in mine and thats to make their pockets fatter on our dime.
RE: Glenn (Jim Jones) Beck, and Sarah (Witch Doctor) Palin – Have you heard the latest conspiracy theory?
The term false prophet is a label given to a person who is viewed as illegitimately claiming charismatic authority within a religious group. It is obvious that Beck does not know/adhere to Mormon doctrine (even simple things like using profanity), so some are shocked that Mormons adore him and leaders of the Mormon church allow him to set upon a pedestal in pursuit of fame and wealth (self deprecation is just sheep’s clothing).
Scriptural references:
"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.”
“Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping"
Also, false prophets associate with the Antichrist, so fundamentalists who believe we are in the End Times should take heed.
Well, I guess Glenn Beck has left no place in America for Atheists and Agnostics, since they have no honor in his new kingdom of GlennBeckistan.They will have to choose God or death.
He is well on his way to trying to combine church and state. So much for freedom of (and from) religion in America.
And, while we are at it, let's take away all of the minority rights that are, currently, enforced by the federal government and let the states decide who gets what rights.
After all, states are better at deciding -
. Whether schools should be integrated
. Who rides in the front and who rides in the back of the bus
. Whether or not a woman has any reproductive rights, including abortion
. Who should be allowed to get married. Should blacks be allowed to marry whites? Should men and women be allowed to marry someone of their own sex?
ewent:
You recently made a reckless accusation without even attempting to provide a scintilla of supporting evidence; therefore, I feel compelled to expose your flagrant dishonesty. You wrote that "The left didn't have a single thing to do with the Financial Meltdown. Bush owns that one." Really? Well, here's some FACTS that contradict your mindless falshood.
Who is responsible for the financial mess we're in? Maybe the New York Times newspaper can resolve that question.
The vaunted New York Times published an article on 30 September 1999, during the Clinton administration, titled "Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending." That newspaper, a liberal mouthpiece, stated "Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under INCREASING PRESSURE FROM THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people…to individuals whose credit is generally not good enough to qualify for conventional loans…In moving, even tentatively, into this new area of lending, Fannie Mae is taking on significantly more risk..In July, the Department of Housing and Urban Development proposed that by the year 2001, 50 percent of Fannie Mae's and Freddie Mac's portfolio be made up of loans to low and moderate-income borrowers."
A subsequent New York Times article titled "New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae" was published on 11 September 2003, during the Bush administration. It stated "The Bush administration today recommended the MOST SIGNIFICANT REGULATORY OVERHAUL in the housing industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago…The plan is an acknowledgement by the administration that oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac – which together have issued more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt – is broken…Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and CONGRESSIONAL DEMOCRATS who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing…'These two entities – Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac – are not facing any kind of financial crisis,' said Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. 'The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.' Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed."
So, according to the prestigious New York Times, the Democrats and their left-wing acolytes created this financial mess, while the Republicans and George Bush tried to fix it. But the Democrats blocked Republican efforts to do the right thing. Thank you, New York Times, for placing the blame squarely where it belongs...on the Democrats and their left-wing lackeys!
So, ewent, try to get the facts before you spew hysteria and showcase your ignorance.
Interesting comments since I got back to the hotel.
People are free to have, practice, or participate in the faith of their own choosing. I think maybe some took the God and faith in too narrow of a view. In some discussion today with the Sharpton people ( must say, nice, and open to discussion) I will use this as an example , as it is something i have read a lot here, and it was discussed today.
Bring God back into our lives as a way to return to the things that make this the greatest nation of earth, most likely in history of civilized man, the idea is to have faith in God, or faith in a door knob if that is what you chose, but have faith in something that fits into your beliefs.
Nobody was telling anyone what or who to believe, or have faith in. Glenn Beck was certainly not saying have faith in him, he knows he is just a man. But he is a man that learned and grew from the mistakes, or roads he traveled early in life. Is it possible that many of use, might have traveled roads that now, we would say " no way, that was not the right road"?
Glenn was not asking you to follow ___— or to join __— church, he was inviting each person to have faith in something, find your spirtuality. The notion is that Faith, a positive faith in something bigger than yourself, leads to hope. You cannot have hope without faith. If you have faith you have hope. Faith and hope leads to charity, and that really doesn't mean dropping a dollar in the bell ringers bucket at Walmart during Christmas time, but can certainly be a part of it.
Faith, is something bigger than a person is. MY faith, is what I chose to call God. Other may have faith in other men, or groups of People. For many of us, an additional Faith would be in the ideal of America. Mine is in addition to my belief in God. Having faith in God, and the ideal of this great Country we call America as I travel around the world, or meet new people who have never experienced America, only what they hear, or read, is something in many places they can only dream of.
None of it is perfect, or without flaw, but having faith in something bigger than us, gives hope for tomorrow, and for the days of our children and grandchildren . Do we want them to grow up in times of great strife, hunger, ideology ,war, civil unrest, or just plain uncivil society? Of course we don't. We want to leave a better world for them and more specifically, one filled with hate, an iron hand of politicians, or even worse,.? Of course we don't. Do we all want a better life, one where guided by our faith, filled with our hope, and a world filled with Charity, meaning kindness and caring? Sounds like a better deal to me. I personally would feel better knowing that in my little corner of the world, I kept my side of the street was as clean as I could keep it, knowing full well I am not perfect, but when I am wrong or make a mistake, I made my best effort to make things right. Can we imagine such a place, where everyone took care of their little corner , and putting tht all together, imagine what a different and better place this great idea of America would be. Just imagine that for a second. Is it not true that most of us just want the opportunity to follow our own dreams, and maybe do some good for others along the way? I think so.
Another mistake people make about Glenn beck is that he is a Republican, or democrat, or whatever. That he supports as certain agenda, or a certain political ideology. There is nothing that could be more false. you can argue all you want that I am wrong, but I am not. Beck has very little tolerance for ANY politician. He understands all to much that this monster called Washington DC has seem to forgotten that it is we " WE THE PEOPLE " that they work for. He also understands that almost ALL politicians are part of the game, and it is we the people who are getting the shaft. Be nice if one were so inclined to sit all day spending others peoples money, or making choices in the name of a deal, or a lobbyist, rather than REPRESENTING the American people. Whatever your view is, we are not being lead in a direction that is good for all. The word trillion dollars, is tossed around like someone saying ' Hey Joe, you have a dime for the soda machine? The politicians, that work for us, are now spending out great grandchildren dimes. While they pass rule after rule, creating so many obstacles to those that create jobs, kids just out of school can't find a job, people who have had their jobs for years, no longer have them, and there is no great news down the pike that would give anyone hope of that changing any time soon. Is it not our right to demand that these people, on both sides, get together, cut the crap ( excuse me only way to phrase it ) and let people get back to work? Isn't it our right, and even our responsibility to raise our voices to say " STOP "? If we are not, as the employers of those who are making bad choices for us , then we are part of the problem. Are we not?
So, don't mistake Becks words. He wasn't talking about a conversion to some particular faith. he wasn't selling bible, or other faith based books. He was asking you to return to the faith that our Founding fathers had, in all their glory and in the lessons learned by making mistakes, to be what is still regarded, all over the world, the beacon of freedom , opportunity , where a man or woman could work hard, and have opportunity to be what they wanted, and prosper from their own hard work.
Some believe that is not possible any more. many of us take that for granted. That is something the false "prophets" will jump in and take advantage of. Is some form of that going on now, and in many ways going on for some time? I believe so. But in many ways, opportunity is greater now, than it has ever been.
There are those who think that a road of Big Government making choices of our everyday lives is the way to go. The constitution says that those who believe this, have the right to, and they do, but those who think Government is the problem, and can't run a Post Office or a Train system , cannot do it better than we can, we have our rights to. We can agree to disagree, and the remedy to that is when we vote.
In the meantime, we must find a way to have discussions , without hate, without derogatory words ( you know the only place I heard the N-word was when we were talking to the Sharpton people, who were using it in the friendly way that some black americans call a trerm of endearment between two Black adults ) No kidding. I don't want to hear it from anyone.
We must learn to have rrespect for all people, as we are all fellow Americans. I found nothing but friendly patriotic people who believe in this Country at the beck rally. I found people at the Sharpton rally , ho fel they did not have equal opportunity and felt that they were owed for the past. I agreed whole hearted with the Beck group , and expressed my disagreement, respectfully with the Sharpton group. not all but most of them. In my opinion, Beck was opening a door that has long been closed, or neglected by many in the Black Community . My faith, give me hope that at the very least, some cracks in the great wall of American were made today, and that there is a strong possibility that there are people on both sides of this wall who make use of the cracks and a real, honest dialogue can bet started to find what should be obvious common ground. My faith gives me hope of this, and that those cracks were an opportunity for people on all sides , to reach out and stop those who seek to destroy us from within. Those people are out there and working very hard to use us to distort and flat out lie or attack to win at all cost. Neither side can let this happen.
This Country , with all it's faults and flaws are nothing compared to what we can be together, reaching compromise listening and reaching common ground. this in my opinion was becks call. There is no question that he, and the people who took time to look into the issues, and even the people who expressed their feelings in some pretty "odd" ways, all have something to contribute. My thought is that they too feel left out of the big picture and just picking a different way to expressing their frustration. i also know that there are those amongst us who live and breathe hopes of our failure to come together. to those people, i will say you are wrong. After today, I have more faith, and hope that we can come together in the common goal as citizen's of this special, great country we call America.
I noticed that many decided to go another route and express bitterness and down right hate, and I am going to tell you straight up, that will not work, that will result in nothing positive, and I think the majority on both sides will agree, that we will make sure, with every ounce of our strength, will will not let or great country go in your direction. In fact, you are already doing it for us, those on both sides that do not want your hate and destruction, and every " you are stupid. I know more than you, I am better than you, etc, will be, is being soundly rejected. Agree or disagree, if this is the road you want to try and take us, we will just not go. People on both sides told me that today, and I believe that. Keep it up, as that what will ultimately unite us even closer.
Having Glenn Beck, at great risk to himself and his family, has decided, agree with him or not, to be a man. certainly a gift from God, or our faith , no matter what side you are on, had the ___s to get up there and say " lets do something about our common goals. What a shame, did you see he had to wear a bullet proof vest? A man, who cares about his country enough to say things that long ago needed to be said, and will give all the time needed to talk with everyone, and het us talking between ourselves, puts his life at risk to help us be better as a nation has to wear a vest, is a sad point in our history. I pledge and speak for myself, if someone wants to attack me, and knock me down, I will get up, and keep getting up until either I cant ny more, or the person knocking me down finally understands how revolting that is. The is no, can be no violence, or that kind of rhetoric I have seen on these boards today . We have come to far as a society for that crap, so lets all have a dialogue , and as many of us who appreciate all Mr Beck and his family go through, Any of us have already signed a pledge of non violence, and i urge all who have not done so, to sign the same pledge. We are the people of the United States of America" . We are bigger than that, and that cannot be tolerated in any way. Sign the pledge on his website.
Today, I believe was a great gift presented to us, by people who are highly qualified to send us a message. On both sides. Our Faith Hope and Charity is the way out, and the path to freedom, and prosperity for all of us. We should not let this gift fall by the wayside. today, on this historic date, I invite all who believe this Country is the greatest on earth, one that hasn't reached it's fullest potential in spite of all the achievements we have made, to talk with rrespect, exchange ideas, find our common ground, and together move forward not only for our own sake, but for our children, for those who died defending us and protecting the rights for our own Faiths, views, and goals, so that we may all live together, in peace, love, and respect for all of us. So that we can all live our dreams.
It Will take men and women of strong character and convictions to get through many hurdles, bu there is no time like right now to do it.
Today was a fantastic day, and I am thank full for all who made the effort to make it happen. Lets not waste it. Have faith that we can do it, from the faith and opportunity comes Hope, and to those who may not be quick to join, we will be there to help them up when they decide that peace, and mutual respect is the answer , we will be there when you are ready.
We were given a great gift today. It is the fulfillment of the dream of dr King, we have today, equal opportunity to work together toward common, and our own goals. Gifts are a terrible thing to waste. Lets not waste this one.
I understand that many will blow this off, and that is ok. Those of us they get what I am saying , will understand what and why I am saying it.
One more thing. Let's all who want join me in thanking everyone who donated their Time, Money, or something for the auction so that today, I think it was approx 5.5 Million dollars was raised for the SOWF so that may continue to help Families and Soldiers keep a pledge that started many years ago that a soldier going into harms way, knows that his family and loved ones will be cared for, helped, and supported in the even he/she is injured or makes the Ultimate sacrifice and gives his/her life in the line of duty, defending and protecting our Country, and the rights and freedoms that we all enjoy. Because of these brave soldiers, many things we may take for granted everyday, remain part of the gifts of America, and the world and our Country is a better place because these Soldiers are out there, protecting us and those freedoms. It is a fantastic organization, and at the very least, besides our gratitude, we can help these men and woman go into battle knowing that in the event of the Ultimate sacrifice , the pledge by his/her fellow soldiers , will be honored , and be secure in knowing that we the people through this great organization will be there for them, in any situation to help the in any situation.
god bless them
Thank God for Glen Beck and the positive message he brings to everyone.
The Reverend Martin Luther King paved the way for this resurgence of positive values and personal responsibility. He believed in the freedom granted to all men by God and that all men and women should be able to be in charge of their own lives and contribute to the greater good.
About as positive as Hitler I'd say: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf33g9ep4YU
Oh come on! Bring up an evil man to be compared to Glen Beck is absurd! Glen has a passion for American to get back to the values that made us great. How foolish to compare that passion to a madman.
Jerry:
Unfortunately sometimes passionate people is capable of doing stupid things in the name of that passion
See the Inquisition for example. (see it as an example please)
He has a passion all right--to get rich and powerful. And he's on his way! That's why he's a conservative celebrity and not serving his Brothers and Sisters in Christ without piety, but with humility. He seeks his own glory.
Jerry: Please name just ONE value that we don't have today & need to get back to.
Everyone I know respects their country, supports the troops, is hard-working
& helps others around them.
Just what "value" is missing & who exactly is missing it?
SElf reliance, expectation, that a person is responsible for their actions and does not blame any and everything around around them as the reasons, for their own shortcomings.
The liberal democrats are missing it.
Every program advocated by the democratic party is predicated on stealing money from the people who, earn it and using it for their own ends or handing it to a 3rd party.
Amen Johnny A! We know half of our countrymen want this nation destroyed and brought to its knees, because they voted for the Immam Obama. All in the name of entitlements they seek from the backs of the rich. Shameful, disgusting and treasonist liberals. They should be defeated and destroyed.
Golly that "greater good"thing sure sounds like some form of collectivism and the pursuit of social justice and the common welfare and we know Glennda the Beckerhead has already urged his flock to leave their churches if that church should happen to mention or believe in such things http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/03/08/glenn-beck-urges-listeners-to-leave-churches-that-preach-social/
One wonders what the Beckerhead and his sheep would say about distinctly American phenomenalike barn raisings, quilting and husking bees and other proto/quasi socialist happenings of that sort.Of course since such things don't fit neatly into Glennda the Beckerhead's twisted world he's probably never heard of such things and might urge people to forgo them as they reek of collective action.
Glen is trying to unite Americans! not divide, To bring about wisdom,through investigations,study of history. to bring our country Back to the original founders intentions.Our government is out of control "absolute power corrupts absolutely"we need to return to our original principals, Small government,Capitalist economy,Privatehealth care. If we continue our Progressive Socialist Spend Spend Spend agenda What will be left for our children? Thanks to Glen and others we are gathering to save our country!!!
God Bless America!!!
There's a difference between individuals VOLUNTARILY associating in order to assist others and COMPULSORY payment of private earnings to GOVERNMENT MANDATED WELFARE!. Think!
DisillusionedFaithful - you err not knowing the scriptures and not knowing Glenn. If anyone here had any idea how much money out of his own pocket he has spent to fund this event you would not be saying that. You might want to investigate that little piece of information. He's done this so that almost all of the money raised for this event can be given to the Special Operations Warriors Fund. If you were interested in the truth you might be interested in that. You might want to look up the definition of charity - something that I think you are greatly lacking in.
Wow, amazing, you're claiming that a group of people coming together to VOLUNTEER their time and effort to help others they care about by doing barn raisings (seen it live, lived in Ohio), bees (husking or quilting) etc. are somehow quasi communist/socialist! The ignorant tripe that comes out of the mouths of some people on here are truly astounding! These community events were held by loving, compassionate people DONATING theirefforts to help their fellow man and woman, They recognized to need to help each other. But Communism/socialism FORCES the actions from others by point of law and financial penalties if necessary. Those on here claiming Beck as hate monger or racist are the worst kind of scum, as they belittle someone while having no clue of his shows. If anyone TRULY watches, he ALWAYS cites sources and MANY various books, sites, OFFICIAL governemtn documents, videos of peoples ACTUAL words to back up EVERYTHING he says. Yes he's passionate, and so was Patrick Henry!!! I cant see anyone getting excited about a speech like Mr. Henry's, if he had said "Give me universal healthcare (or welfare, or social security, or bailouts, or income tax, or any other social engineering scheme), or give me death!!". NO...he was wanted LIBERTY, free from the tyranny of a goivernment that took it away, and taxed them to death, and tried to control every avenue of their life, just like is happening now. And to support Liberty, the Founders knew that God was absolutely necessary, because without a moral pass to control ourselves, we could not be self governing. As John Adams so rightfully put it..
“Our constitution was made for a moral and religious people; it is wholly inadequate to the governance of any other.”
- John Adams, letters.
or Geo. Washing ton in his Farewell Address...
“Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness – these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connections with private and public felicity. Let it simply be asked, “where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the instruments of investigation in courts of justice?” And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.”
- George Washington, Farewell Address.
THIS is what Glenn Beck is trying to get you to understand, and if you cannot understand this, from the people that MADE this country, then you are truly lost!
Hitler was Roman Catholic -planned on being a priest in his younger years. He was part of the German Christian Society - which bears strong resemblence to our now Christian right. Hitler used religion as his justification for killing the Jews. He claimed to be doing GOD's WILL. Just because someone claims to be a christian doesn't mean their words are not dangerous. Words that insite division, and elude to civil war are not holy - have nothing to with being a good christian. Its only a justification for their anger. The Irish have been calling their war a religious war for a 100 years. It isn't. Frankly I do not see the difference between the so-called 'holy war'(again not holy just political) the radical muslims scream about and the very apparent 'holy war' the christian right is seems to be waging! They walk such a fine line between convincing you they are God loving fearing people and the message against minorities ( and they don't draw the line at illegals anymore) and even more so the message against our own Government. I am Lutheran - a devoted Christian -believes strongly in God and Country. They used God to insite fear and anger in people who clearly are Faithful - to make you feel threatened so you will blindly follow the wrong message. Thats what Hitler did - and millions of innocent people died. You have to be careful- you cannot let anger and fear cloud your judgement.
@Mnsue:
I agree you have to be very careful about spewing fear and anger. However, that you see no difference between radical islamists "holy wars" and the Christian "right" (whatever that is, because true Christianity is not right or left, but God ruled) here exhorting us to return to trusting God and his calling to be better people, is alittle unsettling. Where in our desire to return to Christian values, Glenn Beck's exhortation, not a demand under penalty of law or or fine, do see an equivalance to promoting the extermination of an entire race of people (Jews) and see us teaching our young to strap bombs on their chests and walk into civialian gatherings around the world and blow them and many others up!!?? I agree the Irish and British situations were terrible, what was Christian about the actions of either side? Becks words do not incite division, they incite introspection, and careful consideration. Yes he alerts us to many things, and you may not agree with some things he says, but he at least always bases his arguments on printed, audio or video facts and shows them. He challenges those he calls out to show him where he is wrong, yet they never come on to debate, nbut merely excoriate him in other venues, because the facts cannot be refuted. And unfortunately, sometimes wars become necessary, and are not un-Christian. God instituted governments to be instruments of justice, to stop evil. Or should the world have just rolled over and died and let Hitler just ravage the earth? It is not pretty, and sin and evil are terrible things, but it must be dealt with. And the ultimate redress only comes when Christ returns, till then, we do our best, to live in peace with ALL men and women, to the extent it is in our power to do so. But to the point that it becomes forced upon you, then you have every right to forcably correct. Even Jesus told his disciples to take their swords with them as he sent them out, knowing the world is a dangerous place. I appreciate your words and caution to be wary of incitement to fear and anger. Yes we need to be cautious, everyday, as Christ wanta us to, to utilize our rational minds to monitor our savage hearts. I thank you for at least using reason and logic in your response, and not empty hateful rhetoric. I admire you greatly for that, and appreciate the chance to dialog with you.
George Washington was Christian but many of the Founding Fathers were Deists. And by the way, since some people don't seem to realize it, you do NOT need to be Christian to be MORAL.
What these moron teabaggers fail to understand is that MORALITY and RELIGION are MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. The religious are some of the most IMMORAL people on the planet. In fact most are only "moral" out of fear of damnation... but then again even that doesn't stop them. Take a good look around and read your history books. I don't see a whole lot of morality anywhere that religion has poisoned the population.
Saneman, as you said,
But to the point that it becomes forced upon you, then you have every right to forcably correct
And an alternative viewpoint has every right to believe in their god, their religion or none at all. There isn't just one god, one way. So, what right does Beck and followers have of claiming a christian god and the values therein to impose upon a diverse nation, that was founded on the principle of Freedom of religon?
No matter how you square it, using religion to further ones political or personal beliefs is wrong.
When did this turn out to be a moral debate??? And do we really want to live by our founding fathers morals?
The problem with using the moral debate is that morals have changed over the past 200 or so odd years and us along with them. If you want to live within the GB, back to morality plea, please..
See where this is going...........Not a good place for this country to be in. I don't say this to incite any kind of hate but to show where this "Back To Morality" argument goes.
Happyblue - well said!
Yes I agree MLK spoke for all and his words still resonate loudly. We should all be so glad we can informally debate like this, but lets not forget the dream has not been achieved by any stretch of the imagination. This man that gets paid for his provocative words, he is fully entitled to rally in our capital but don't for one minute imply he represents me. He has not put his life on hold to serve in any elected cacepacity, its so easy to throw peanuts from the gallery; I'd like to see him and Sarah actually volunteer (unpaid) for once. I seem to remember Sarah resigned to go seek her fortune.
Ublieveable-------------------- You certainly are what your name says.
colonialgirl...You couldn't handle life in colonial times on your best day. So what's with the newly imprinted BS moniker? The day your generation learns how to live without central heating and only a cook stove to keep your colonial log cabin heated in winter let me know. Hell, I'd bet you can't even fry an egg on a campfire much less know how to bake bread. Get back to basics and give up the excesses. Then talk.
There is no freedom of Speech on this board today.
The Collapsed by the Community tells all.
What has happened to the screening of opinions, even if they are not the opposite of MSNBC?
Beck is doing a great job--for all Americans. It's a true success. He is a humble man.
Now, will wait to see if this gets thrown to to wind. Freedom of Speech, where is it here?
Hawaii2..You asked the question of what is wrong with Beck? I will tell you in no uncertain terms. He wants people to think as he does. That's plainly wrong. He isn't asking people to adopt his ideas and ideology. He knows that if he can reach out to the most uneducated and most ignorant, like many before him, he can increase the size of his audience and hopefully gain more power. Beck is a power freak. This country doesn't need any more power freaks. Actually, we need NO power freaks. The more people who begin to idolize Beck, the more his audiences keep him wealthy. The wealthier he grows, the more power he has. The more power he has, the easier it is for him to begin to amass his own insider power structure. Hitler started that way too and everyone believed he was a good man because all he wanted was for the Fatherland to be prosperous and content.
How did Glen Beck of all people become a leader for God. Wasnt he a alcoholic and jobless for a long period in his life. How is he representing a moral person. He sounds like a con artist and at times a very bad actor, ($$$). Take a look at history and people that go off the deep end with religion they are mentalilty unsable. They often think they are God like or Gods partner. How is God talking to Glen Beck, that in its self is weird. Please people concentrate on just following the ten commands and the golden rule, (of doing onto others), and having good morals. Get off the religions thing, it VERY dangerous. Religions has always separated people through some sort of difference, like for eg. race, wealth, beliefs, where your family came from, etc. Religion is a way for the power hungry to gain power, because most people are followers, sheep in other words and fear gains their trust. Just be honest and good people, stop being haters about everything. The world has always been the way it is, haters haters haters. But I love america so much we have the freedom of thought, and so many things, we have come a long way. People used to get prosecuted just for not being a Christian.
ewent:
Thank you for your comments.
I did not ask what is wrong with Beck. Please reread my statement.
The core of the statement is why isn't there Freedom of Speech on this board? Everyone's opinion, whether it is the left or right is being Collapsed. How can a free American Society choose, if opinions are either deleted or screened to the favortism of another party?
The people who understand and follow Beck are not ignorant. They are unhappy as to what is happening to our Country today. We are a Democracy. It is their given right.
Beck is not a power freak, but someone who can lead the Majority of Americans, staying focused on what is wrong with America today. Americans are not a happy bunch right now. It is also to refocus on MLK's I have a Dream, thus reminding those who suffered during the dark days of America when the Black People had NO freedoms.
Abraham Lincoln.
We have a Black President! America has come so far, yet I still don't understand the racism, or hatred that still exists. It was the Majority, including most White people who voted for Barack Obama.
What has happened in America, where people are floundering, trying to get back their Freedoms, and unity in this country. Following to a tee--the Constitution.
Beck's main point of this rally is not to become wealthy. It is a gathering of people who have the guts to say and rally about their disappointment on what's happening to our Government, to reinforce Martin Luther King, and his dreams.
Where are our dreams? It is to wake up all Americans to take an Activist role, using their powers that were given to them.
This is in no comparison to Hitler. My personal background all too well knows the worst Leader in Germany, the march on Europe and what he did to 12,000,000 people. He wanted an Aryan race.
In American we want all races to survive. Ewent where are the Concentration Camps/Gas Chambers in America?.
Beck is a public person, but not an Elected official. Power? What is wrong with that; it is not Hitler's kind of power. It is for the good of Americans who agree.
You could get out there and start your own rally on a subject that interests you.
Hawaii...First of all, there is not now nor has there ever been a country where there has not been some measure of poverty, insanity or those who are handicapped. If you listen to what the right wing preaches, it's these things they rail against having to pay taxes for. They whine, whine, whine about unemployment. Unemployment is high because of greed. No other reason. As for welfare, every country of the world recognizes its responsibility to help out when people are in need. The jerks of the right wing like Beck with all his money is always putting down the single mom whose old man left her with a tiny infant. Unlike Sarah Palin who figured out how to become a leech of the government, there are people who are on welfare for a reason...they NEED it. Especially now when some of our most intelligence and self-sufficient Americans are out of work. I am sick and tired of hearing the right wing whining. They are class A jackasses who are "haves" and constantly pick apart the "have nots" and then call themselves Christians. Not in my book.If you are an American, you understand what your part is in helping to create betterment for the common good. Most of the right wing whiners are out for themselves and only themselves. Enough is enough. They don't mind that we make them richer than god while they price gouge our necessities and then they have the gall to tell us we don't work, when most of us are working 2 or 3 jobs while they sit on their fat, lazy asses like Beck does.
Waiting for Nov...the clue to Beck's mentality is what he said..."My role...." He has no role. He only has the perception that he HAS one. Mentalities like Beck's that assume they have a "role" end up the same way. Beck is a narcissist. That's why he thinks he has this special "role". Dream on. As for November, you will not overturn this presidency so you can put more people out of work and on the streets homeless. Sorry, fool us once.
Ewent, Hawaii. Didn't the Mormons enslave the Native Hawaiians and forced them into slavery to work their pineapple fields and factories. Conservative values. Let's count their blessings.
Conquering, the Manifest Destiny, invading, stealing others' homes and lands while handing them our bibles, and genociding twice as many Native Americans as Hitler killed Jewish. I just love that ole time religion and American values, like one nation under god. Whose God? While they were writing the Constitution, the absolute holy grail, American values and worldview participated in the worst genocide in recorded history and the enslavement of both the Native Africans and the Native Americans. God shed his grace on thee, belch.
Values, Christianity, conservatisims, ethics and morals, I think I'll take a pass. Brainwashing and more brainwashing and more garbage words and thinking...invading, conquering and mass murder...One nation under god...
Positive message??? You're kidding, right? This man does nothing but create fear!
Ewent:
You are coming from a different direction than my statements.
Unemployed. Are the 18,000,000 who are unemployed happy to be at home, while their families have no money to live on,, abusing the Unemployment Extension checks given our our Government. What kind of incentive is this to get America moving again.
The Right Wing Philosophy is based on Capitalism. That is what our country is about.
No one in their sane mind would dispute this part of the disagreement. Only through having enough money to survive on can America come from the depths of what is now almost a Depression in the Economy.
Who's going to fix that.
If you are working 2-3 jobs, then that shows you are motivated.
I have no idea where Christianity comes into play on this subject re: Beck, his Rally, and Martin Luther King.
I am not against Welfare for those who sincerely need it. It is the abusers of Government programs, especially higher educated people taking advantage of our tax dollars.
Beck IS working. He also has the right to exert his Freedom of Speech and lead, just like you and me.
A voice, an activist for the positive. What's wrong with that? Certainly hundreds of thousands of Americans were not forced to go to this Rally, were they?
Yep. A lot of scams rely on religious appeals, with the scammer quoting scriptures to fleece the flock. There is an awful lot of lying and cheating being done in the name of God,
Some of those self-professed "Christians" claim that since they're "born again" they're already heaven bound, so they can do any sinning they want and it'll all be washed away in the end. They're deceiving themselves - if they were truely "born again" and had "the Spirit of the Lord" then they wouldn't want to sin. The fact that they're actively sinning proves that they're not really "born again".
Hawaii...Most Americans are out of work because someone else fired them. Who makes those decisions? The employees? Or, the greedhead "have" employer creating more "have nots". That's not what this country was ever intended to be....divided by wealth and greed.
Let's not pretend that the corporate whales that were too big to fail sucked up to the rest of us when they needed a bailout. When we need it are they there? No. Do they care how many more people they put out of work just so they can bankroll more money? No. Do they care what massive unemployment has done to this country since 2004? No.
The right wing is totally off base with their constant bashing and blaming everyone but the ones who make all the decisions...Big Money Men with Big Government influence.
It isn't as hopeless as it sounds. To me, this is going to be the biggest blowback attack on Big Business in the US since the days of the Teapot Dome Scandal. They left millions of Americans no choice but to stop buying what they sell and to start all over in their own backyards just like my mother and father had to do during the Great Depression.
Positive message???? Are you freaking kidding me!!! Beck is simply delivering the message of fear and hate from Murdoch and the Koch brothers that in the end simply enslaves the working people of America. You are America's weakest link.
dfordemocracy
Are we Americans becoming so much like 1939 Germans that we are willing to follow another nut like Hitler because we are delusional about how our economy got in the mess it is in???Beck stands for white supremacy and is dead set against all the progress minorities have made in the USA...He would undo any laws protecting middle-class American families from the greed of the rich and priviledged...Much like the Republican Party of the last 30+ years did to get us where we are at this moment in American history...
Please Americans...Do not give credence to a FAR RIGHT WACKO like Heir Beck or we will all suffer for many years to come...
Unbelievable, Morals God has laid done in the Bible never change with time but hold true though out history. Those are not morals but social norms of the time that you listed.
Ewent:
Americans who are out of work were not Fired. Laid off.
There would be jobs, if it weren't for more taxes being placed on big business. Do you realize what is happening in the real Global Economic World?. The US economy depends on the Global Economy to predict what is going to happen to all economies.
Big businesses and small businesses are being forced to go out of business. It's getting harder and harder to give employees, benefits, pensions, and retirement plans. They cannot withstand the tax hikes, nor can they keep employees, because Government is putting restraints on how they can run their business.
America is built on Captialism. Only Communist, Dictatorships are not.
When manufacturing and demands for goods has stopped, such as the car industry in Detroit; (24 per cent unemployment in this city). The Stimulus Packages given to GM/Chrysler were in the long run not a success. They still owe money to the Government, a misnomer.
No American can live without solid work, dreaming of owning a home, and Freedom of choice. Do you support a family of your own. If so, then how does one who has no regular income survive?
It is Free Enterprise in the US. Businesses falling off like flies. Just take a look around in your city. Empty stores, one after the other, bankrupt, foreclosures, buying homes, waiting for and how the economy will pick up.
The problems in this country are much bigger than the "left"...The illuminati control both the "left" and the "right" ...Oh God, the 2004 election ( 2 Skull and Bonesman ) and you people still don't wake-up..You left yourself be divide into your "left" - "right" camps by fake issues like the "Ground Zero Mosque " nonsense...The first people arrested that day were Israelis videotaping the first planes impact and cheering, all worked for a Mossad front moving co. where everyone had demolitions exp..Speaking of demo-w/o even getting into WTC 7 -the second plane hit the S. Tower at 9:03..WTC 6 blew sky-high at 9:04..Never explained, local NY media reported on it..Emer personnel responded...The original hole at the Pentagon ( before the upper floors collapsed ) was so small a tall man had to duck his head to look inside..At least 3 war games were going on that day that I know of..one involved the "simulated hijacking" of 11 passenger aircraft..Incredible, but Beck says "nothing to see here, move along..."
If you call bullsh*tting people for a living "working", then I guess Beck works.
Isn't Glenn a Mormon now? Mormons have their own version of the bible that differs from the original. If Beck is a Mormon, that explains a lot(and not positively).
Beck obviuosly has his own version of the "truth".
all those of you who think religion is the cause of death and devisiveness should think interms of what we find to argue about. Hell, we would fight over dirt if there weren't another reason.......as matter of fact we do fight over dirt. The real rub is that people who don't want to recognize the heritage of our country or the rightiousness of that heritage, prefer to use religion/rightousness as the argument. I am so damn glad to hear Obama and Sharpton reeling over Beck's get together. They are stunned and refer to it as "stirring people up" or "needing stonger centralized govt"? Really?, the people of this country HAVE HAD IT WITH THE LEFT. Do we need more centralized govt? Do we really need to find new and more creative ways to tax to sate liberal quilt trip over the environment and the 3rd world. The essence of our culture is our faith and our self determination. Libs hate it.....God commands it.
And why not? Talk about judgemental. Everything Beck has spoken about is good.....honor...faith...liberty...morality....honesty...... all things that are needed for a successful free people to live. Maybe he's the right messenger to get everyone's attention to hear the message. The story of salvation repeats itself. It's message is to trust God and follow God. It was true for the Israelites in the Old Testament and it is true now. How failed we are in being a generation that does not know history. Politicians have proven they can't be trusted. Freedom and everything associated with it comes from the rights given to us by God. The program at the Kennedy Center last night embraced everyone and God was the common factor. No one was divided. "Beck rocks"
Your Old Testament isn't OUR history. If your god told you to jump off a cliff... would you, please!?
Rewind: I'm getting a message from him now. Yes, he did say so, please jump off a cliff and take Glenn Beck with you.
Amen.
When you are going to stop using GOD's name for everything????
GOD gives you free will. Use it and don't blame him or use him as an excuse.
If you are brilliant is because you root the ass out of you to get the things you want to get accomplished done. If you are an @!$%# is because you choose to be one. GOD didn't force you to do anything (right or wrong) is our own human free will.
Thank you, handemom, for standing up for the truth. All of these negative comments are from students of secular humanism and and sal alinsky taught in our schools today. All the nay sayers should get on their knees and pray for the patriots losing their lives for our freedoms. Why don't they don an army uniform and go to the trenches in Afghanistan; instead of wanting that culture HERE!
Google "Glenn Beck Lies"
And when did Glenn become the "Czar"of Morality.
Where? You don't really believe that any wars we're currently engaged in have anything to do with our freedoms do you?
His speech last night sounds like Rev. Jim Jones.
lets see if he puts that comparision on his blackboard
What you don't understand about God and Beck is that God will never tell you to jump off a cliff and Beck knows that.
And Hitler was the right messenger at the right time in Germany too. He talked about all those things too. Your heart is in the right place. Place your faith in God.....not in Glenn Beck...he is wolf in sheeps clothing. God also warns you about false prophets. Just because he says what you want to hear does not make him a good person, just a good liar. Your all making him quite wealthy, do you supose he goes home at night, watches himself on TV and laughs "SUCKERS"
Please share with me fellow Christians. Is Beck a Mormon? I understood that he was. If so, how does the Judeao Christian beliefs fit into what Mormon's believe? They do not have the same view of Jesus that we have. I also understand that the Mormons do not accept people of certain ancestries in "their meetings". Since I am not a Mormon, please share how they interrelate with Christianity? And to those who claim the President is a "Muslim", if you are born to an atheist are you an atheist forever, if you are born into a Mormon family are you a Mormon forever, if you are born into a family of any particular faith can you NEVER become a Christian?
BAC..you're exactly right. Mormons are NOT "christians" in the judeo christian sense. They absolutely do NOT worship the same god or the same christ. Their entire dogma is completely contrary to mainstream christianity yet they want to fool the public into believing they are mainstream christians. Has anyone not heard the constant bombardment over the airwaves latey of Mormon radio ads ? Trying to portray themselves as everyday normal people ? They are NOT.... by any means. How do I know ? Because I'm an ex-mormon. There is nothing "christian" about this religion. They are biased bigots with an agenda and LOTS of brainwashed people and money to do their calling.
You bet he is Mormon. There's a You Tube video that you can google under Glenn Beck and Mormonism. Momons do not believe in the trinity. They can become gods. Their founder, Joseph Smith, was an ego-eccentric man with 34 wives. Wonder if Beck will ever wear a cross around his neck? Also, any questions regarding any religion are nicely outlined in CARM.org. Beck belongs to a cult.
Glenn Beck is out to make money, and he is using these Tea Partiers to fill his coffers. He is obviously using "key words" to garner the conservatives to his party movement. I have some news for all you "Beckie's". You are being USED, just like all the things you have disdain for . Beck is using rhetoric to stir up the bases, and he is getting rich from it.
It is obvious, that none of these Partiers even with their flags and acting like proud "patriots" are actually AGAINST the US Constitution. Some of you need to go back and read the Constitution and realize that there was DISTINCT separation of Church and State coming from the Founding Fathers. The Constitution gave rights to ALL people, and seeing how Beck has Politicized his Rally, and brought in anti-abortion advocates, Pastors who preach against gays, it shows a obvious political agenda and all these partiers are doing is making Beck rich and trying to erode MORE Constitutional rights for everyone else. Hint: It isn't going to happen.
handemom...No one is falling for either Beck or Palin's contortions of values. They are the same ones Jim Jones and the rest of the wild west megolomaniacs of religion tried to enforce. Beck's got more skeletons in his dirty little closet than Clinton could come up with in a decade. Or, for that matter Gingrich. Beck and Palin know exactly what they are doing...It's THEIR values they want to spread around. I'm fed up with that right wing big mouth bully BS that says we HAVE to do what a handful of misguided ideologues tell us.
All they carp about all the time is welfare, having to pay taxes, people who are collecting unemployment the right wing created with its greedy. Tell Beck to stop expecting that multi million salary. He can learn to live simply so that others may simply live or shut up.
Nice attack on a man's religion.
Religion is the enemy of the state.
All power comes from the state.
Right, COMRADE?
OK, here's something that's VERY confusing in this updated, as of 12:42 PM, article. They're saying that this isn't a political rally and based on the fact that they're leaning towards the RELIGIOUS, he's actually preaching about God. He's not a pastor of any church. Never trained in theology. I don't even know what is actual faith is.....Mormon? How can anyone take this event seriously? He truly sickens me.
The article is also suggesting numbers of people who attended, as if that makes him legitimate. Yeah, like facebook friends! Given the fact that this guy has millions of people who tune into his show every day, if anything less than 850,000-1,000,000 showed up, I'd call it a failure.
He's a false prophet folks. Nothing more, nothing less. Well, maybe something less, like a scumbag.
Ryan In Texas...If Beck is a Christian, I'm the devil incarnate. The problem with people from Texas is that they are petrochemically poisoned little autocrats who think bigger is better. Got a clue for you. Less is more. Always has been. Always will be. Sure, Beck wants smaller government. Just like your Texas Ahole did. When a Texan says he wants smaller, what a Texan means is he wants Texas insiders only. Where was Gonalez from? Meiers? Rice? Texas...smell small there? Why is it yahoos all have the idea that we must do what they tell us or else?
How did Glen Beck of all people become a leader for God. Wasnt he a alcoholic and jobless for a long period in his life. How is he representing a moral person. He sounds like a con artist and at times a very bad actor, ($$). Take a look at history and people that go off the deep end with religion they are mentalilty unsable. They often think they are God like or Gods partner. How is God talking to Glen Beck, that in its self is weird. Please people concentrate on just following the ten commands and the golden rule, (of doing onto others), and having good morals. Get off the religions thing, it VERY dangerous. Religions has always separated people through some sort of difference, like for eg. race, wealth, beliefs, where your family came from, etc. Religion is a way for the power hungry to gain power, because most people are followers, sheep in other words and fear gains their trust. Just be honest and good people, stop being haters about everything. The world has always been the way it is, haters haters haters. But I love america so much we have the freedom of thought, and so many things, we have come a long way. People used to get prosecuted just for not being a Christian.
Yes, Beck is a Mormon. Yes, Mormons are Christians. We believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God who came to mortality in the meridian of time to establish the Gospel as found in the New Testament, who suffered untold agony for every person's sins, who died on the cross, and was resurrected. We allow and invite all people to come to are meetings, regardless of "ancestry". We only restrict temple worship to those members who have been faithful to covenants of faith in the Savior, in attendance to meetings, in tithing, and in refraining from alcohol and drugs. You can be a member without going to the temple, but we aim for the best the Gospel offers. We have friends who are from other faiths and we invite, but never force anyone to our religion. We believe in freedom of choice, but not freedom from consequence. You need not be what ever you are born into. You can be converted to the faith in the waters of baptism which is why we have missionaries. Just because you can become a Mormon does not mean you will have to or might even stay a Mormon. We believe that a person has to work hard to maintain the connection with the Holy Spirit for the rest of his life because it is too easy to let it slide away.
ewent,
Less is more? For everything BUT government?
Why is everyone so in love with Christianity? I like Jesus -- such a liberal, caring for the poor, feeding the hungry, an advocate for the down trodden, a despiser of a few pieces of silver and rich men, but I wonder what He would think about this nation genociding twice as many Native Americans as Hitler killed Jesus, the God-given Manifest Destiny, the Crusades, warring, mass murders and brainwashings.
Who said, it is more difficult for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven than it is for a camel to pass thru the eye of a needle, to paraphrase a little. So, if the bible presents any credibility, then stupid Beck and cavewoman Palin are headed for hell, right?
Golleee, pro-lifers who worship mass murder. So utterly Christian, right.
Gary Root..How small exactly can a US government be if it has to serve a couple hundred million Americans? You want five men to handle it all? No one wants an entire population working for the government. But, to expect a population the size of this country's to subsist with a handful of government workers is plain nuts.
I live in NJ. The last two administrations cut back on the NJDEP staffing. Guess what? Now, you just try to get anyone to help you with an environmental problem in less than 2 weeks. Sorry, the staff of any government has to sufficiently managed all of the necessities of that government.
ewent - After FDR and WW2, the Gov't was 25% of the economy.
It is 40% now. And rapidly growing.
Maybe if they didn't have to take care of the babies like yourself, we could get it back to a sane size.
handemom
Are we Americans becoming so much like 1939 Germans that we are willing to follow another nut like Hitler because we are delusional about how our economy got in the mess it is in???Beck stands for white supremacy and is dead set against all the progress minorities have made in the USA...He would undo any laws protecting middle-class American families from the greed of the rich and priviledged...Much like the Republican Party of the last 30+ years did to get us where we are at this moment in American history...
Please Americans...Do not give credence to a FAR RIGHT WACKO like Heir Beck or we will all suffer for many years to come...
I'd rather have Cheech and Chong in the White House than these 2 self-promoting, fascist bozo's. Beck is a certifiable nutcase and Palin's is the political version of Britney Spears. They scare even the Republicans away. We are watching the death of the Republican Party. This movement will get out of hand and their corporate masters will no longer be able to control them. These people alienate every thinking, educated American and are making the American Reich look more foolish every day.
Come to think of it, Cheech and Chong could beat these two and they'd promote much more progressive policies.
ewent,
People can make their own decisions and run their own affairs without big brother looking over their shoulders. You left wing kooks think we all need the nanny-state looking over our shoulder to make all of our decisions. Big government produces nothing - it is just a big extortion racket.
Rick428133 - you are the bigot spreading hatred, not GB. Hitler was a Nationalist Socialist and promoted policies in Germany not unlike policies promoted by POTUS BO. Freedom can only be served by a small government that allows individuals to make their own choices and live their own lives without the heavy hand of government bearing down upon them. I yearn for the freedom that I experienced in my childhood and youth in the 50s, 60s, and 70s. Many young people have never experienced freedom in America, and do not understand what we have lost.
Gary,
Government power is we the peoples' power to balance the power of corporations and the landed gentry? Don't you realize that power moves into any vacuum. If you righties shrink government, corporations will simply move into that vacuum. You can vote and influence government but corporations are authoritarian monarchies. What you are saying, then is that you prefer monarchy to a democratic state. Next, you'll tell me some anti-democratic rhetoric like you hate unions. Admit it, kons, you guys hate democracy and love authoritarianism. You dream of the Return of the King.
Way to go Becky!
I can always chose not to buy a product provided by a corporation, but the government must use force to make me pay taxes. I for instance do not buy products endorsed by professional athletes. They are spoiled brats and squander the fortunes that are handed to them. Corporations are owned by "we the people" . If you own stocks you can attend stockholders meetings and can make motions and force proposals to change corporate policy. Your hatred of wealth is hatred of the greatness of America. Your hackneyed criticism of the tool owners shows how little you know about worker productivity. Workers who have inferior tools earn inferior wages. In capitalist countries where tools are provided to workers by investors, workers earn wages far higher than wages earned in backward third world nations. The capitalists seldom get more than 10 percent in exchange for their contribution while wages are clearly the largest cost of doing business. As a percent of total GDP wages exceed 75% of total GDP. The Marxist argument of exploitation of workers is a total myth and is total bunk. When government raises taxes and sets about to expropriate capitalist wealth, the capitalists should hide their wealth and withdraw their investment in the worker, and let them rot in misery until workers learn to appreciate that the capitalist is their real benefactor, and government is the enemy.
Yes! We need to bring GOD (Jesus) back into America--- so our land can be healed! 2Chron.8:14
alecdarkbane said: with all due respect. muslims believe in allah, not the Christian God. they are different.
For the record Allah means God. You could have looked that up before typing your comment. The "Christian" God as you call it, is the same God that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam call their God and worship Him. Three fundamental differences: Judaism adheres to the call of "Hear Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is ONE", Christians for the most part believe that God is a trinity; ONE God/Three functions, and Islam teaches "There is ONE God and Muhammad is His prophet". Read a book sometime, please. If you read the Qur'an, you will see that there are plenty of references to Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and even the exaltation of the Virgin Mary! So don't go around saying things that you have ZERO idea about.
To all the others who want to get into this whole christian, muslim, and jew discussion:
Christians: You are NOT a Christian by birthright! You must be saved by the cleansing of the blood of Christ. "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and you believe in your heart that God rose Him from the dead, you "shall" be saved. Why shall and not will? Because you have to earn and keep that salvation.
Muslims: You are NOT a muslim by birthright! To be a muslim (one who submits to God), you must live your life doing the will of Allah, meaning, prayer, service, sacrifice, modesty, forgiveness, etc. Lots of rules in the Qur'an for sure. Killing innocent people is not one of them by the way.
And last but not least, the descendants of the 12 tribes of Israel. You were given birthright because of God's promise to Abraham that He through him would make a nation even greater than the stars in the sky and more than the sand in the sea. "But Ace" you say: "there aren't that many jews in the whole world!"... Ahhhh, but see "For God so loved the world that He gave His ONLY begotten Son, so whosoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life". Notice I used the world "shall" again? The reason is because is not just a matter of believing (even athesits believe, that's why they talk about Him so much when they argue), it's about "BELIEVING HIM". There my friends is where salvation begins and ends.
Thank you all for your attention in this matter. For those non believers: It's all good if you dont believe. Just like I cant force you to believe in God, you can't force me to believe He isn't in my heart. Have a nice weekend!
Gary Root
Great post. I am not a wealthy person, and I have always worked for someone else. If we don't support our country's wealthy we won't have jobs, how hard is that for people to comprehend? The more demands the government puts on the Corporations, the more they have to adjust. Yes I guess there has been abuse by shareholders like Enron, but if we don't keep Corporate America, we are all in for a rude awakening. I don't care how many degrees a person has and how book smart they are either. If we don't start using common sense, things won't get any better. The fact that your post is educating will cause it to be overlooked too. They would rather argue and belittle someones ideas, which in turn causes the others to reply and defend themselves or share their disagreements or jabs. (I do it to, ask Greta lol). But thank you for sharing your knowledge on how this works.
It is "In God We Trust" NOT In Jesus We Trust and those christian founding fathers stated that concept for a reason Religious Freedom
glenn beck, a true American Kook, Racist, Liar, and Alcoholic...who would listen to this guy?? If you want to learn about something, learn, read, educate, and study for yourself instead of blindly following the loud mouth, hate spewing, tardness, of a glenn beck type, dumbass!! i'm out, sheeple and here comes dumb (beck) and dumber (palin) leading the pack...hahahaaa
You would rather listen to Al "Tawana Brawley" Sharpton?
Yes! If Beck and other conservatives are radical, then so were the framers of the constitution. All Beck, Palin, and others are calling for is a return to the faith of our founding fathers (and mothers) and the principles of self-disciplined free will which under-gird the constitution. The unthinking, mouth frothing liberals never acknowledge what the founders wrote in the Federalist papers. Their lines of reasoning are no mystery. Though many of them did not belong to an organized church, they were not atheists.
Excellent stuff Handemom. I have never heard a voice of reason in the liberal movement, take for example Martin33189, This poor man snaps his cap at the mere mention of God. Listen to me Martin, Dont step off the chair!!
Why is it that if someone is trying to do something good every one has to find the fault of the person instead of joining in the solution, no wonder the world hates america.
Who is Beck and Palin to restore honor? They should start the restoration from their homes. Palin just got divorced to start the tea party movement and family is in shambles. They are trying to continue the racial ambiguity of th past. Other races will not fold their hands and watch. Even if Obama does not win the next election.History has been made. They can't take that away from him. Why didn't Palin and Beck "do something good" as some of the contributors implied during Bush Administration? Where were they when the whole thing was falling apart. I hope she runs for presidency so we can see the "miracle" she will perform.
Handemom - if you Beck lovers admire him & what he says so much about following God, then why do you same people hate Obama so much who was a community organizer and truly wants to help the less fortunate among us but the Republicans and some Blue Dogs are stopping him at every turn. He's also a wonderful husband and father but those "family values" you all espouse are forgotten on him. Why is that?
Funny you mention this. Sounds like Obama's speeches that sounds just like a preacher with a loud *come to Jesus* ended.
You have the nut cases on both sides of the aisle. Al and jesse turn off as many people as glenn and sarah. Science has proven all the fairy tales false, it just goes to show how easy people are brainwashed.
Just a quick question - who is the feather d*** doing all the collapsing ? Many of these collapses are starred ...what the hell constitutes a cause for collapse? What a tool ...
He is a SCAM Handemom. Gloat Bock and SarinGas are going to attempt a run in 2012. These two rascals are republican party lackeys. The very monsters, via the george bush reign of horror, Who ARE the Very Power Tribe which put We Americans and our country into the catastrophe we are in. The republican and it's spinoff "teaparties" are NOT to be trusted. They will say sweet sounding things looking innocent and pure, but are WOLVES in Sheeps Clothing of honorability.
Giving any power to the republican/teabags is asking Dracula to guard the BloodBank.
Sorry to disapoint you but Jesus and God are the same thing!
Gary, let the rich pull out their money. Is that what happened in Sweden? In France? In Finland or any other socialist countries. Not the last time I looked. You are simply a defender of the international capitalist elite. An enemy of the proletariate.
Gary, let the rich pull out their money. Is that what happened in Sweden? In France? In Finaland or any other socialist countries. Not the last time I looked. You are simply a defender of the international capitalist elite. An enemy of the proletariate.
Indeed the country is sliding downward, due to people like Glenn Beck. He helps to divide the natio even more rather than offering any solution for bringing it together. He appeals to the basest of instincts in the weakest of minds. His anti-intellectualism stifles creativity and entrepreneurship. His lies about the Democrat's intent and the administration's accomplishments further cuts the society into factions our Founding Fathers warned of. Beck is but the latest charlatan to fall in love with the sound of his own voice, and arrogantly believes he has been called to some greater purpose than anyone else. It is his kind, and the likes of Palin, who will unltimately destroy the country, rip apart the Constitution, and pull down our place in the world. America will change a bit from today's exhibition, and all of the change will be dark and destructive.
Have you ever listened to Beck? You are just reiterating what the Godless libs in this country want you to believe. When was the last time you had an original opinion rather than spouting the opinion of left wing fear mongers who want you to forsake God and look to the government as the Almighty one.
Hey George, it sounds like you are auditioning for a show of your own.
Thank you, George, for your accuracy! Very well put! I fear that what you describe is exactly what's happening.
GEORGE---------- Lighten up libs, the guy is an entertainer.No matter what you say, or how ferventtly you scream, and the end of the day, he is an entertainer, and every deposit he makes, he laughs a little harder at you.
You can call Beck, what ever you like, as loud as you like and Obama will still, be an inept quasic socialistic liar, who shortly, will be a lame duck president.
George- Unbelievable....Obama sits in a church that sees the Reverend espouse hate week after week for twenty years, surrounds himself with radical czars like Ken Jennings, the "safe school czar" whom was once the President of NAMBLA, (National Man Boy Love Association), and Van Jones who simply wants "whitey" vanquished. I could go on and on and on. You libtards call guys like Beck racist and destructive, while everything about this regime and Obama is racist and certainly destructive. Are you people so enamored with entitlements that you can't see the forest for the trees, or do you simply hate this nation? What is it?
I believe you have name dislexia. It is Obama that has put this country in a spiral downward. Is it purely coincidence that racial remarks have become widespread in the last year and a half? I don't think so. If you look at all of the polls, Obama has gone against the will of the citizens on virtually every major issue. With all do respect, what happened to innocent until proven guilty. Obama through that out the window also. in stead of being so cynical about Beck's possible underlying motives, try a little openmindedness and see what becomes of this rally. Of course, the media has to always deface anyone or anything that me be against our chosen one (Obama). Is everyone that has negative remarks concerning Beck and his rally is actually afraid that maybe, just maybe, something good will result.
There are a lot of ignorant people on newsvine. but troy1, go to the head of the class.
You spew all this nonsense, but where are the facts to back it up?
And no, I'm not a "libtard" or any of the other childish, immature words used on here.
I'm just someone who values facts and truths, not the nonsense spewed by the far right and far left.
George, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but this country has been slowly sliding downwards ever since Congress and the Senate has been under Progressive-Democratic control. And it has gotten worse ever since Obama became President. He (Obama) is the only man I ever seen that can take gold and turn it into lead. So maybe you can benefit from Glenn Beck if you will open your mind and listen to what he has to say. I personally don't agree with everything he says, but he makes sense AND he does his research and homework. You cannot deny that. And if you want, try to dispute what he says. And just to prove my point, I'm going to pick apart your comment here.
Like I stated in my first paragraph. This country has been sliding downwards ever since Congress and the Senate has been under Progressive-Democratic control since 1996. Glenn Beck had and has nothing to do with the decline of America. You can thank our politicians and corrupt moral leaders for that. Glenn Beck has offered America not only solutions to our nations problems but has warned us of what is going to happen if we continue down the socialist path. And thus far he has been correct in his predictions.
His appeal is just to the opposite of what you wrote. I don't know of anyone who you describe as weak in mind. In fact most small business owners and HIGHLY intellectual people not only agree with Glenn Beck, but throw their support behind him. Beck does not have to lie about the Progressive-Democrat's intent, he just exposes their own lies and intents. Obama does not have any major accomplishments that benefit the country as a whole. Just failures and the juggling of his own true intentions. And apparently you are not a student of American history nor have you studied what our founding fathers wrote AFTER the Constitution was written. If you had, then you would have been better informed about why the Constitution was written the way it was. Beck has not created any factions here. The Progressive-Democratic party has done a good job of that itself. With statements of describing people as the "have and have nots, Spreading the wealth" and describing conservatives, independents and others who oppose Obama as racist, is an attempt to create class warfare and a racial division among the general population. This is what our founding fathers warned us of.
I'm sorry, but Glenn Beck is a messenger with a sense of purpose and direction. And that is evident in the consistency of his messages and actions. How he delivers his message is also unique in the sense that it gets people's attention and makes them think and do their own research. He has on many occasions, challenged the progressives to dispute him and what he has said. They cannot because he researches and confirms facts. He does not offer rumors or half-truths. He couples his political beliefs with his religious beliefs because our founding fathers in their wisdom coupled these beliefs together and that is what forged our once great nation. You are trying to define Beck's own beliefs and steadfastness as being arrogant. If you want examples of arrogant attitudes, just look and Nancy Pelosi and Barrack Obama.
The progressives would have you believe that Separation of Church and State means that religion cannot influence affairs of the state when actually it means that the state cannot influence the population through religous institutions. If religion truly could not interfere with the state (as the progressives would have you believe) then The Reverends Martin Luther King, Jessee Jackson, Farrakhan and others would have been unable to make the social/political gains that have been attained through their pulpits. Again, read your history and do your own research to draw your own conclusions. Don't believe the progressive doctrines without doing a fact-check.
Palin's political ambitions are unknown but she has coupled herself with Beck because she believes in what he is saying and understands the danger America faces. The progressive movement has done more damage to the Constitution than any other political organization or individual. Beck and Palin have not attacked this document but rather are defending it and it's stated doctrines.
This dark and destructive change you speak of has already been started. Not by Glenn Beck or Sarah Palin, but rather by the progressives like Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and company long before Beck and Palin came on the national political scene. Our standing in the world has and still is slipping thanks to Barrack Obama and his gang of progressives. Glenn had nothing to do with it.
Again, use the common sense God gave you and do your own research and take the progressive agenda with a grain of salt.
George, Standing O!
I suppose Al Sharpton is the one to bring us all together. Look at how well he did with the Tawana Brawley situation.
LOL@ George.
Your rambling is so wrong and ignorant it's mind boggling.
LOL, afraid to ask but how does he "stiffle" (it's 1 f BTW) creativity and entrepreneurship?
Beck is trying to bring people together and has offered many possible solutions yet you say otherwise.
Lots more to ridicule you on but not worth the time.
In closing, I would much rather live in a country with Becks sincerity then with feeble minded folks like you as you sir are the one heading down a path of darkness.
George is right on. Beck is a leader of sheep. It's dinner time for all you sheep.. Get fat and sleep well. Glen is going to sell you and make lots of gold from your hides.
I'd like to know why Geoge's comment was collapssed by the community? I've noticed that an extraordinary amount of comments are being collapsed and very few of them when I click on them have any sort of inflammatory rhetoric? Is that what this has come to? If the majority doesn't like what you say...well we'll just collapse them? I don't like Glen Beck, I think he's an opportunistic con man but I absolutely respect and defend his right to freedom of speech. Something those of you who are constitutional supporters might want to conside before you collapse someone's comment for no real reason!
peach
I think the collapsing of comments is in keeping with the mentality of so many of the conservative posters. They, like their media friend FOX, only like opinions with which they already agree and any opinions or facts that refute the message are unwanted. Therefore, they continue to be dupes, lackeys and water carriers for the made-up messages of the Glen Becks, Rush Limbaughs, and Carl Roves of the world who can convince these people of anything as long as they wrap the message, no matter how erroneous, hateful or unconstitutional, in the flag or the Bible.
Steve Schimpf........think you need to notice that Obama was not even in office when the housing market fell apart. Those of you helped to elect the congress that sucked up to lobbyist and took their money..in the process they, congress, deregulated the financial system that allowed the banks to create the loans they sold to wall street...and helped to cause the massive failing of the same housing market. You need to notice that it is congress that passes all the bills and programs that have helped put this country where it is today....and all this started way before Obama. Those in congress that have been there nearly their whole lives have ruined this country.....and they listen to no one other than themselves....no matter what they may claim.
I find it funny that the headline announces "Dueling DC Rallies"...then describes Mr. Beck's event as attended by a swarming sea of people whom seemed to fill every crack and crevice of the Washington Mall...and later describes Mr. Sharpton's "event" as being held at a local high school.
"Dueling" ??? Doesn't seem like much of a "duel".
"Conservative commentator Glenn Beck and tea party champion Sarah Palin appealed Saturday to a vast, predominantly white crowd on the National Mall to help restore traditional American values and honor Martin Luther King's message. Civil rights leaders who accused the group of hijacking King's legacy held their own rally and march."
I guess the left has not learned much since MLK gave his "I Have a Dream" speech. It is about the color of the skin and not the content of the character. Brother Al still thinks that way too. Gotta keep the race baiting going if he's gonna get paid.
Well Mr. George Hoffman,
I've heard those exact words spoken of Sharpton and Jackson. If Sharpton, Faracon (probably mis-spelled, but who cares) Jackson, etc., didn't perpetuate racism they would be out of a job. And another thing, I believe that MLK would not approve of how they go about what they do. All those guys do is rable-rouse and spew hatred.
Sven...
I caught that too....it just had to be stated in the article's first paragraph, that the crowd was "predominantly white"...I believe that MLK would not have wanted that fact to have been noticed or cared about very much at all.
I guess MSN has their own dream (racism) to "keep alive". What a disgrace. A couple hundred thousand people peacefully meet in a public square and talk about God, peace, and progress for our country. And MSN just feels compelled to point out immediately that there were just far too many white people for the event to be of good taste.
Tony,
I was considering that point as well. I wonder how many people actually showed up for sharpton's rally, and how many of them were white? Predominantly black turn out I'm sure, but we can't call THAT racist now can we.
I guess that MSN simply forgot to mention the "predominant" skin color of those attending Mr. Sharpton's "rally".
Skin color is evidently only important at events like this if it can be described as 'white'.
Troy1:
Your ignorance is right on your sleeve, isn't it? Kevin (not Ken) Jennings was the founder of GLSTN (The Gay / Lesbian / Straight Teacher network), which is an organization that promotes equality in education regardless of sexual orientation. The fact that your twisted little mind manages to somehow equate that to NAMBLA shows exactly where you are coming from. If you really want to help the cause you claim to support, you'd be better off shutting up and letting the professional handle the lying and smear campaigns....
Sven - Doesn't matter what group was up there, they are going to be at least 73% White, unless they were formed specifically for a particular race, like the NAACP was.
You are acting just like the Democratic party leadership. DIVISIVE and PETTY
must have been a different Rally. the Rally with Glenn Beck had no racist agenda.
no one person in American history has done more to divide Americans in any way shape manner and form than burak hussain obama. (including race)
DB Akron,
"You are acting just like the Democratic party leadership. DIVISIVE and PETTY"
How am I being devisive and petty? I was just pointing out a fact. Might want to reread what I wrote.
Glenn Beck had been promoting his rally on TV for months. Rev. Al just threw something together last minute. If you consider the amount of time put into it, they're about even. And quite frankly, I don't know why either of these two can draw a crowd like this.
But if you really wanna be fair, the Million Man March kinda dwarfed Beck-O's spiel, so the conclusion that can be drawn is that when you're actually fighting for a real and coherent cause, you can get more people involved. A couple hundred Thou showin up to hear "You need more Jebus" seems like it might be a disappointment to anyone expecting to come and hear an actual message.
troy1 banned, out of chances.
What do you say to a person who has imaginary friends?
You didn't have any imaginary friend when you were a kid? How boring....
He keeps in touch with them.....
Bobby-563958
GREAT GREAT POST BOBBIE!!
#11.21 - Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:51 PM EDT
Well said, Bobby - the left just doesn't have an answer for what's happening across the country. The Democratic party is dis-jointed and in shambles - so it's the Saul Alinsky ideology for them - that's all they have left.
This is the first intelligent script I have read in all this.
Lucy1 -- Dumb, dumb, DUMB post, Loosey.
HELLO !!!!!!!
Montana, to call this dumb identifies you as the problem
Lucy 1: A big old thank you is in order for your posted commentary. After reading about half of the comments on this newsvine thread through out the day, I am amazed at the amount of hatred expressed and how easily it appears to come from so many of our "fellow Americans". You are a lucky person to have experienced this in person. I can only imagine how it must have felt to have been there. I listened to it through the internet and found myself getting "misty eyed" a few times. God bless you as well as all of the people of this nation, regardless of their take on this honorable gathering.
Thank-you Lucy1 for posting what is probably among the hundreds of collapsed posts. Let freedom and truth ring from shore to shore.
I'm left wondering whether Beck doesn't just intend to break from his career on Fox, and instead pursue his life-long dream of being a faith healer.
Great posting and I hope it clears up some of the things being spread around. I still detest the fact that Al and his group had to use it as a political tool for their own needs. But I'm sure they won't be the only ones.
Bobby-563958
That was a great peace.
Lucy1
Thanks for reposting it. I would have missed it and I am so glad that I got to read it. Thanks again.
Becky for President!
LOL. That's pithy and pretty well sums it up. Scary to think that about 80% of our country has an imaginary friend and about 40% of them are very serious about it.
I would bet the ones here so ready to bash Christians for their beliefs are also the ones spouting how we need to be more tolerant to the Muslims. You are free to believe what you wish in today's America, as long as you aren't Christian. If you are, you're ridiculed and and called names. Where are Christian's 1300+ comment posts on them taking down the crosses that commemorated the deaths of police officers in Utah because they were afraid it would give the message that the cops would be biased against non-christians? Or the posts about how it's no longer okay to say UNDER GOD in our Pledge of allegiance? Thank you Mr. Beck for raising that money for people who really deserve it.
I don't have to believe in you GOD to be American.
So when I do the Pledge of Allegiance I don't use GOD in it. I don't like nobody to shove me down my throat his/her belief, so I don't do the same. It's my free will to choose in what to believe or not,
One only has to look at far left websites, like moveon. Daily Kos, or Huffington post to see that the marching orders were given to do what cannot be done. I find it odd that people who were not there, can give a first hand account of what happened this morning.
It was absolutely wonderful. If one were to compare the comments here, to what happened in Washington today, it is clear where the hate comes from. It will not work. Every sentence of hate, only shows people who is looking at soultions, and those who thrive on the hate.
I thought the Kennedy Center event was one of the most powerful. It was, but this morning was 600,000 times more powerful. It was in no way a political rally. There were no signs, no chants, no riots such as G-12 events are. You had 600,000 plus people who honored troops and their promise to each other to look after their families in case they didn't come home.
Over 5 million dollars were given to SOWF to do that.
There were Black Americans, Asian Americans, White Americans, Indian Americans.. you name it, all gahered in peace and to express love for Amrica. The comments here, most of them, you heard none of that. It was all positive, without hate , or anger. Even people from the Sharpton rally, came, and stood in awe of the feeling of this group. Everyone welcomed them, many people hugging and linking arms.
There was no hate. From what I have read prior to this even, last week, hate is what the Far left was looking for. There was none. So every attack, every false claim, only goes to show who is responsible for the hate. You know who you are.
Glenn was very humbled, as were everyone there. I met people from all over this country, and the idea that this was all Tea party, or all some group, is totally false. This was a cross section of America, giving a lesson on how to have discourse .
This wasn't about Glenn Beck. This wasn't about Palin. This wasn't about anti anything. This was about people who love what America is at it's core. It was what about the blessing this country and it's people ALL people have. It was about not being the problem, but working toward solutions.
So, you couch quarterbacks, think about the fac that you were not there. We wish you were, as you couldn't help but feel it in the air.
This was about the Special Ops soldiers and helping those who help keep the pledge that started in the Dessert back in the Iranian Revolution. This was about the honor of that pledge .
This was about people, all people being together with RESPECT for one another. To see people, as far as the eye could see, lock arms with strangers in a mutual love of this Country was a sight to see. many, many tears of joy that the American spirit not only lives, but is thriving , and growing everyday.
It was truly a moment in history.
Just remember, every line of hate, every line of ridicule, and every line of falsehoods and attempt to discredit our Country only makes more come to the side of America's greatness. You help those who believe in America, with every hate filled word. Becks " mesage" if there was one, is to be there for you , when the day comes that you understand that no peace, self peace, comes from hate. It never will happen.
We will pray for you in the meantime , and be there to help you up when you understand that you have been duped.
What is interesting about Beck, is that you can feel that he cares. About me, you, the Country, the soldiers that fight for it , and he even cares for you that are filled with hate.
I am sure George Soros, or Moveon., Daily Kos, and all these others that you seek to find answer, one day, you will know that could care less about you . I know, I voted for this guy, and his false hope.
Today, and last night, I felt nothing but real hope, and the solution to the hate.
I have never felt more welcome, as a Black American than I have in the last 24 hours. There were many many people who had come, some from far away , that said the same thing. It was like being in the middle of friends you didn't know you have. It was awesome.
Nobody, including Beck, made themselves out to be a God, or a voice of god. It was individuals, 100's of thousands of them, talking to the god of their belief, in their own way .
So you can twist and turn , attack and ridicule, and there will be many like me, who finally see the hate mongers for what they really are, and today, I proudly and soundly, reject those that hate. You have your own agenda, one that I seek no part of. There were many , many like me today . I am on the side of the United States of America, and I am proud of it, and last night, left no doubt that I belong here, and was welcomed with open arms.
The hate only exposes you that do, for what you are . When you are ready, you will be welcomed also.
Oh, not single arrest, everyone stayed to pick up liter and such ( wasn't much ) and the Park Service Police were just fantastic. Many of them has tears in their eyes. Many said this was the most peaceful crowd they have ever seen. I want to thank them. True Professionals, nice people , and they were very helpful and appreciated.
Enjoy the show :
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-26-2010/i-have-a-scheme
Martin33189, I guess you don't use money either because it say's In God We Trust. That remark you made was really unpatriotic, and disrespectful. Is that what we teach our children today?
Janie: Martin is right, putting god on our money (blasphemy right there) and the pledge were added during the cold war...not at our country's inception. We don't need god in politics- it always ends up with Taliban or inquisitions or witch burnings, doesn't it? Booga booga hocus pocus!
I dont think many of you have made the equation that while we reject Obamas lukewarm version of capitalism and anti-americanism, we also reject the Republican open armed embrace of pure capitalism and corporate welfare for guys who want us to make $3/hr.
We need someone who protects our borders and interests, looks to infrastructure, regulates the corrupt and greedy, and either fixes social security or returns all the money we paid into that system. . A basic safety ney should always be provided for those unable to run the race. Anything else takes care of itself.
Bingo, Rock. These dysfunctional schoolyard 'dueling' August 28 rallies seem to be more about money. One group believes it is paying for everything and getting little in return, while watching an entire national culture slip into a morass of crime and vulgar sloth. The other wants to keep those federal assistance checks rolling in, inert generation after generation, while continuing to blame those who fill the federal coffers and pay for those endless handouts. Classic. Neither has enough depth - or intelligence - for more than an entertaining media circus. All the better these rallies were on the same day; two would be too much of an insult to common sense - the Tom Paine variety.
Religion, which ought be a private matter, is the public vehicle that both inarticulate whites and blacks abuse for their own purposes. This was likely inevitable, once religion became irreparably entwined with irreligious laws of the land and the fulcrum of the black civil rights movement. That religion has become such a fractured one-dimensional public spectacle for so many who merely seek to beat up others does more harm than good to every citizen, as well as to religion. Independents caught in the middle and who wouldn't be caught dead at either circus and are getting mightily tired of the ridiculous show.
Didn't we already see this movie: "A Face In The Crowd"?
How soon we forget. Only took this young country to go from this: Tom Paine = "All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." To everything that was blathered by Sharpton and Beck. My guess is that Canada is currently shoring up its immigration laws, lest Americans begin to flee en mass the raving maniacs of this truly screwed up country.
Who ever is overseeing this site, I have a question for you.
I never put anyone down, I do not swear, bold type, run to far off the subject (unless I need to to make a point about the matter that I am writing about)or any of the other silly things I see. But now I see that you have taken off my posts.
Is this supposed to be a civil discussion about political, religious, or philosophical ideas, or is this site just for people that agree with your outlook?
littlechanges I didn't know that tom paine quote- reminds how brilliant some of the men in France and America truly were in the 18th and 19th C. Where did all that political brilliance go?
"Divine providence"?????? Give me a break! If any god were really paying attention to the hateful and divisive message of Glen Beck there would have been a small pile of ashes on the podium from the lightning strike. Palin is also waiting for a message from God before deciding to run in 2012. How arrogant can they possibly be?
You must be on Crack
This thread is a waste of time given the number of comments that have been collapsed because of the easily offended, anti first amendment BSers on both sides of an issue. It's time for some of these whiners to put on their big girl panties or big boy boxers and deal with a difference of opinion.
If NV took the time to review how many had positive votes they would change their cock-eyed method of collapsing comments that are not profane or offensive other than they have a different point of view.
Martin you're quite right, Beck the kid is still very much a kid a troubled kid still using the name of the Lord in Vain.
Newsvine and other media are clever to put this article under politics even when Beck said that this march was non-political.. Put it under religion and there will not be so many boiled over comments.
But Beck was political, unable to help himself to say that MLK was a hero. MLK should be a martyr but god had as usual turned a blind eye on his servant. On the religious kick, the weekend event was a verbal war between two sects of christianity, religulous politics, under one god.
God save the US of A to all.
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I've seen more detailed photo's. I underestimated the rally to be 325,000 - 550,000 it is more likely to be around 550,000 or greater. The entire area they used supports aroung 640,000 at 3 sf per person. These people were standing tighter than the building code value of 3 sf per person from the south tree line of the pool to the center of the trees on the field/park to the north beside the ponds. 550,000 was 3 sf per person reducing the field to the south to 75%.
15 deleted, Waiting for Nov. flaming another Viner to begin a new thread:
Cut it out. You're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
You people amaze me. Glenn as been as critical of GWB as Obama. Obama blames Bush for everything. Have you all forgotten that Obama was a standing US Senator and they are the ones that create the agenda. How about you start checking Obama's voting record and tell me who is responsible for the past 4 years of insanity. People keep asking why the niece of MLK is there with Glenn - shes's a traitor for the cause. Maybe the traitors are the ones promoting hate speech. This is a rally not a demonstration and you should be asking yourself why am I not there too. Mormon agenda? At last count there are 6 different faiths present. You progressives are a joke and laughable.
Someone counted 36 different faiths.
From photo's, it appears that group included Jews, Muslims, and some eastern religions.
Is this a test run for 2012?
jwhite; Yes, it certainly sounds as though it is a preliminary.
That's certainly what I think it is. As someone else said, either that, or he just loves to hear the sound of his own voice.
You guys are crazy. The man won't even publicly involve his family because he is protecting them. That does not sound like a politician to me.
maybe his wife is not as crazy as he is
I see no evidence at all that Mr Beck has any political aspirations at all. Besides, he probably couldn't afford the pay cut...
jwhite...Could be. Isn't that the basic premise on how Bush got elected? The Republicans couldn't prove a single fact of Whitewater on either Clinton and spent $11 million taxpayers dollars on that hunt with nothing to show for it. So, they attacked from their next level: morality. Ergo, MonicaGate. That was the singular reason all of the Bible thumpers voted for Bush. Which only proves how utterly backward the red state moralists really are. All during the first 5 years of the Bush administration, one scandal of some sordid affair of a Republican was revealed after another.
The Republicans are desperate to finish what Bush started. Bush, more than any other president brought our government as close to the ideals of right wing plutocracy than any in history. Every piece of Bush legislation benefitted the wealthy. It's why in 2008, the GAO reported that 1% of the population was 11% wealthier over Bush's 8 years. Nothing trickled down, only up. And this is what the Christian moral values right wingers all want to return to. I get very suspicious when they start to get religion...it usually means they'll be passing the basket and stuffing those "tithings" in their pockets.
Thanks, you guys.
I asked the question because the whole thing -- the choosing of the venue, the day, the media attention and the counter rally -- seemed contrived. Not to say that Glenn Beck and Al Sharpton are in cahoots, but Glenn knew precisely the bait to use, Al took it, and he's got NBC on speed dial I'm sure. That way, Glenn gets free publicity for his non-political rally that invites his favorite political party and their favorite political figure.
To connect the dots seems fairly easy but I wanted to launch my hypothesis.
To ewent: I really hate to burst bubbles, but as much as people like to blame the Bush era on one sector of a political party, please do not forget that even though the first election win is in dispute the second one is not. The majority (or at least a vast number if you don't agree with that) of Americans voted for Bush TWICE.
On the other hand, I agree that the people who are coming to these rallies are the ones that make up the remnants of the now heavily fragmented religious right. I believe this was an effort to unite them before November and more importantly before 2012. However, I do not believe enough people belong to this segment have much commitment to each other as a party. If things go back to being prosperous (jobs return, money returns, etc) People will go back to barbecuing on the weekends and the Tea Party will disappear.
Your mind is as closed as Sharia law.
Let Beck run for President, it will be the easiest Obama win ever.
JWhite - no conspiracy on this one.
There were two dates that all the guests could be there. 9-28 was the first date. The "I have a dream" speech is not listed on most callenders (I checked). They had a follow-up meeting to possibly move the date to the alternate date after someone on staff discovered the significans, but decided not to use the other date.
I saw some video on this - that crowd was much larger than expected. I did not expect this to draw, but you never know. There were no protest signs of any kind, just american flags.
I have never seen this many collapsed comments, Tyler is going to have fun with this one.
Posts being collapsed most are ones that disprove everything the left claims about Beck. OR ones throwing vile with vigor at Beck.
Tyler is going to have to take away or increase the number of negative votes required to collapsing. It's making the Vine experience as bad as Fox.
glenn beck, a true American Kook, Racist, Liar, and Alcoholic...who would listen to this guy?? If you want to learn about something, learn, read, educate, and study for yourself instead of blindly following the loud mouth, hate spewing, tardness, of a glenn beck type, dumbass!! i'm out, sheeple and here comes dumb (beck) and dumber (palin) leading the pack...hahahaaa
Hey DB Akron:
No conspiracy, just politics. People who win elections are the ones who can mobilize people to vote for them. Most politicians lose not because the opposition was stronger, but because their fans didn't care enough to vote. Cheerleading is necessary. So the rally was necessary.
When did this meeting to change the date occur?
DB Akron- Thank you! This is ridiculous. If you haven't said anything offensive or disrespectful, you shouldn't have your comments collapsed. It's getting petty.
It was the meeting after they originally set the date as 9/28. I don't know if that was a week later, two weeks later or a month later. I just happened to here Mr. Beck talk about the discovery and that they had decided to stay on that because they had already notified participants of the date. I happened to tune in that day because the local station programing was really bad.
So, alcoholism is the cause for Glenn's mental disabilities, eh? Well, Rush had his problem with synthetic heroin. I thought Glen was just your average paranoid. He should not be drinking alcohol with this condition. Is there a doctor in the house?
What "mental disabilities"?
Unlike the elite HoWood celeb set, Beck has not been to rehab for any reason, nor is he having issues like Rush had with prescription pain killers. I have no idea what you are referring to!
Besides, Glenn is a Mormon, most of whom do not drink alcohol...
Glenn Beck converted to Mormonism during his rehab for alcoholism. But Glenn has been known to be: An ex-alcoholic (although by the way he gives criteria for some people never being able to have a different opinion on something than they did at one point in their life, it'd be fair to just call him an alcoholic), ADHD, and bi-polar. Those can all be found in most Glenn Beck bios.
Why is ever body so up set about Beck giving a speech at the Lincoln . It seems people look up to Martin Luther Kings but to me he was a whore monger and a hypocrite.The King family are a bunch of raciest people that live off of their daddy,s name and act like a bunch of thieves fighting over money all the time.
1. You are wrong, and, frankly, scary on every count.
2. Did you skip grammar class the entire time? Or did you just not attend school?
tell them that again amen
why is that you libs will atak somones grama and spelin when you can't de-bait the isu i know al libs ar so mush mor smarter than dem that is no libs
Bama & Friends:
I guess that in your ranting you miss the point.
People is not upset at Beck for using Lincoln memorial (otherwise can be seen as racist). they are upset with the "message" that he has to offer to the American society in that particular spot of the American history.
Bama, you sound very racist on your comments about MLK family and you are open to everybody starts thinking that you no more than a racist that like to have back the status quo prior to the Civil Rights Law.
NH. is not liberals only who attack the grammar spelling of somebody when they disagree. Conservatives do that too. In you case, your intentional misspelling shows that you also have no idea on how to debate something so important without crediting the other part for their ideas. It may work, even if you don't like it
Have a nice day (if you can) and sorry for any misspellings, mine weren't intentional.
By the way, any ideas on how to bring back all the industries that we shipped overseas? On how to make the economy starts working when Corporations don't hire because of the sales, and people don't buy because of the hiring? ah ah ah!!! if you use the government you'll be called a liberal or a democrat.......
Have a good one (whatever it is, but have a good one)
Post #19 shows that Waiting for Nov. is anything but a lib... note to the not so bright, when attemping to pull off false-flag operations, don't be so @!$%#ing obvious.
Hey Bama , Why does Glenn have MLKjr neice speaking with him
Wonder who 2271348 I do not care who is speaking with him what I said was the truth do you not watch TV on all of the fighting the kings do over money and power?Martin and that goes for you also. Some times people just can not stand the truth.
Martin obviously has never listened to the Glenn Beck Program. If he did, he would see that Beck has spent a great deal of time lauding the merits of Dr. King and talking about the great good that he tried to do.
What's shocking is that one of Dr. King's children will be speaking at Mr. Beck's gathering today. I fear with this stunt, the King family has lost credibility. While the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, I'm saddened to see that Dr. King's offspring is allowing Mr. Beck to use them as a shield from the inevitable fall out that's due to come. He's gonna say, "See, even Mr. King's daughter is here today and she doesn't mind me disrespecting her father's anniversery." It's all political gamesmanship and he plays it well.....most of the time. He will eventually trip himself up on that awful tongue of his.
Those of use who know better will continue to choose not to listen to the poison Mr. Beck spews. In this respect, we're not liberals (the new four letter word), we're smart.
Seeing as one of Dr. King's children is speaking today, I would say that this is a tribute to her father, who also spoke of peace and God on that same site. Disrespecting King's anniversary????? NOT hardly...more like RESPECTING Dr. King. I'm wondering if you'd have no problem if Rachel Maddow or the Iman spoke at that site and on this day.
It just boggles the mind at how you are twisting this to fit into whatever your narrow mind will accept.
Aggie: Mr. Beck's gather isn't about peace or bringing the country together. It is all about dividing it. No twisting about it.
You, among others, are twisting more than Chubby Checker....
Smokey'sMom - No, the the King family lost credibility through those that have attached themselves to MLK's coattail and used it to make their own fame and fortunes. And I am speaking about the Jessee Jacksons and Farrakans of the world. The mis-use of the religious pulpit to divide the races through the use of racism to gain wealth and stature has blemished the name of MLK. These people could care less about the inequalities suffered within our nation unless they can make a buck or two off it. Lets see, what is the term that describes these people? Black Liberation Theology? As I see it, the American BLT originally intended to address the racial divide within the social and economic structures through political/religious/social activism. Its intended goals of racial, social and economic equality have been met years ago, but the goals today are a stark contrast to MLK's "I have a Dream" speech. To me and millions of Americans, one sentence in his speech defined his goal.
Today MLK's goal has been realized. But the modern BLT has perverted it to continue the "struggle". All in the name of politics and personal wealth by the Rev. Wrights of the world. The BLT has attached itself to the progressive, socialist movement. Again in stark contrast to MLK's dream.
If you will read the text of MLK's I have a dream speech, you will see that he promoted freedom and liberty through Democracy and not through the progressive socialist communist ideologythat the Democratic party is infected with today. This man loved his country and the Constitution. Not socialism. His concerns and activism were genuine unlike the civil rights leaders of today.
I think MLK's niece is trying to restore credibility to the MLK family name and his legacy that other zealots have perverted for their own personal gains by attending the Glenn Beck rally and speaking.
Listen to what Beck has to say but do your own research to draw a conclusion whether not not it is poison he speaks. And understand this, MLK's family have a lot of experience in the American political/social arena and are highly educated but are firmly rooted in MLK's vision of America. So there must be something to Beck's messages that resonate within the MLK family.
Mike...Your comment is insightful and brilliant.
First, a correction. It was MLK's niece who was in attendance, not one of his children. That goes a long way in explaining why she would be there. King's children would be caught dead endorsing anything Beck has to say and this niece had probably been dying to cash in on her uncle's fame for years. Well, here was her chance and shame on her. It also speaks to how far Beck & Co. will go to gain street cred. for this whole debacle. Sorry, folks. It didn't work. Beck is still a false prophet who is illegitimate in the eyes of the religious establishment to speak to the masses the way he did, as he is not ordained to preach.
Second. To Aggie, Mickey and Mike, I know enough to form a perfectly intelligent opinion, like the one I gave previously and this one. I've corrected the one fact that needed correcting and I stand by MY OPINION, which doesn't require YOUR validation.
Cheers, everyone;)
Good for you Smokey Mom. It boggles the mind how some people are so wrapped in religion that they can't see the forest through the trees and that they are being taken for a ride. How rich do Beck & Palin have to become before being labeled one of the "Liberal elite"???
I miss Jimmy Swaggert. Glen Beck though is a Ross Pierot of charts and exposition. Now, if Glen can get the crying thing down and start to play more into his vision problems, he could open up a casino for Glen's Kids, like Jerry's Kids only educating the masses about Glen and his struggles and how Glen found his way and how you to can find what Glen found like Tony Robbins only more god inspired like Paul in the bible story or maybe Augustine who said he needed more time to be naughty before being saved which could maybe be similar to what Glen is now doing which means that maybe he has discovered mortality and not morality although it may be the latter that will be his undoing like former President Clinton when Glen is either caught or falls like the preachy Pallin and her own family celebmare and cheap fame that will be so over the top complete with TMZ coverage. Can't wait.
Beck is channeling Mein Kampf.......touting his Bible and wrapping himself in a flag......
Juliet, You are certainly spouting nonsense. I may have no love for Beck but let us get
on the same planet.
Have a good day.
Marsha, have you ever read Mein Kampf? Doing so might just open your eyes to how similar Beck and Mein Kampf are... and might give you some insight into where Beck would take us given half a chance.
JULIET Page one of the liberal manifesti, when aced with a statement or situation, that you don't like, but, have no facts to rebut with, ridicule, ridicule ridicule.
Ben, as a matter of fact I have and my eyes are very open thank you.
We are not in agreement but that is a good sign of free speech.
All the best to you
Yes, I've been drawing the Nazi comparisons for many months on various Newsvine boards and it's AMAZING how few people understand how close the similarities are. The Republicans and the Nazis are one and the same on nearly every single issue they stood or stand for, accept capitalism. The Nazi's were against capitalism, the Repubs are for it. That's small potatoes, thought, as all this stuff is actually very frightening, because if things keep going the way they are, we'll definitely be headed for another war, only this time, it will be a civil war.
This "On the Mall" crap is only the beginning, unfortunately. The true patriots will stand up and take these jerks out, but it's too bad more people didn't know sooner about the counter-rally that is also being held at the same time. I find it mind-boggling that two people (Beck/Palin) with no position in our government and no credibility are having so much influence on the people. It is a testament to how willing people are to follow, instead of critically think. It's exactly what the German people did in the years leading up to WWII. Pride also came into play, because they lost their a$$e$ during WWI and needed to save face.
Just think of all the lives lost due to pride and ignorance. Incredible.
Smokey's mom.... can you say BAAAAAAAAAAAAA ?? These people are mindless sheep being led to slaughter. Remember.. ignorance is bliss. Bid them good riddance... the edge of the cliff isn't far and the pit below is wide and deep :)
A fact is that Nazism and communism both have the same goal, Control of people and the means of production and if you really care to check, you would soon discover that the people favoring taking freedom from the American citizen are the Progressive liberals in the white house and in congress; they are the ones that more closely march to the tunes of socialism, communism and Nazism. They do like to try to shift blame by pointing at everyone else, but three fingers point directly at them. They are the biggest bunch of name callers around and they also throw the most lies out believing that if they repeat it often enough, someone might believe it to be truth, Hitler did that with his propaganda machine and now all one has to do is look at the current lame-stream media and what their political beliefs are to understand Obama's propaganda arm.
The mindless sheep being led to the slaughter are the ones who voted for President Obama in 2008. The writer of the Health Care Bill said he can't understand it and the Speaker Of The House says that it is to be figured out after passage and it was passed against the will of the people???
Craig....there are many good things in the Health Care Bill but it will take time to turns things around for the better. You people who keep screaming about going against the will of the people...where were you when we wanted an end to the Iraq war and Cheney & Co didn't listen because they didn't want to break off their money flow. It's unbelievable to me that you can't see that 2 wars and lowering taxes caused the huge deficit. Obama had to do something to not make our economy fall off the cliff and he has done so. It may not have been the best solution, but it was a solution nonetheless, something the Republicans DO NOT have. What honestly do you think McCain would have done? Please respond.
All this coming from a man who speaks the word of god , and them call the people pf Katrina who where left behind and I quote" scumbags" and the victums of 911 and there families he has about 10 of them he hates..come on people who is he kidding..HYPOCRITE!!!
That these two morons are the pride of the republican party is proof positive that it is time to euthanize the tired old elephant and move on to a party of realism. For Beck to embrace religion as his method to fame and fortune given his past and present actions is to present Jim Jones as the second coming of not God but Lucifer himself. Of course we all should remember the ingredients of Mr. Jones kool aid and the graphic images of the aftermath of following his learned consul. Come to think of it, Guyana would be a fine place for the separatist movement that Great American Sarah Palin represents. A true blue pair of patriots being put upon us after the Bush/ Chaney sell out to the house of Saud.
Beck is'nt a republican , idot ! Speaking without the facts
opinianted snob,
Are you saying that we should have a one party system in the US? That sounds like a communist viewpoint. Would you like to have free elections where there is only one candidate, the one that the "party" chooses. Please think before you post so you don't come off as an idiot.
At least they know how to spell!! I too am proud to be part of that party. Honesty and morality has always meant more to me than glitz and glammer. They also mean more to me than Obama, Reid. Polosi's and the rest of the socalists lies and half truths. Which brings me to a question. Why are the left wingers so fearful of the truth? Belief in God and his compassion and power to correct the wrongs may seem like folley to the fool but to those who see virtue and honor as something to strive for, those beliefs have more worth than any words may hold. Obama talks a lot because he has no idea how to fix the mess he has gotten us in. He blames Bush, but the fact is that our national debt has grown faster under Obama than any other time in history, and we have aquired more debt under Obama in his first 19 months than in the 56 years prior to Jan 20, 2009. But, fools never learn, so.......
Beck wouldn't know the truth if it came up and slapped him in the face. He must have studied "Tail-gunner" Joe McCarthy...
The ridiculousness of that statement is beyond the pale... which indicates that you are a liar and lover of lies... which means that you adore the father of lies, which means you worship Satan. By their fruit shall ye know them and from this, I know that you sir, are not saved. You probably think you can put off getting right with God for a little while longer and do it later and still be ok... but I warn you this, the day of reckoning comes without warning for us all, and those who think they can put off getting right with God will come to be judged before getting right with God, and God will spit you out when you try to claim you knew Him, saying that while you drew near to Him with your lips, your heart is far from Him. This will be your last warning J-mac, repent and get right with God now.
People are making comments here based on absolutely no knowledge of the facts. Need I repeat - BECK IS NOT A REPUBLICAN - he's probably closer to a Libertarian.
Jmac- Libs don't believe in God. They worship Mother Earth, Allah or Budda. Whatever is chic at the time, or whatever Hollywood is doing. This is the most disillusioned crowd imaginable.
Troy that's not true. It's also none of your business who worships what. Who gave you the power to pass judgment? So i guess people who don't believe in your god are the lesser? Go read your bible and see what it says about that.
Liberals as you like to call them believe in religious freedom. We just want people like you to leave us alone and stop trying to force your ideals down our throat through public policy.
troy, what BS! Jesus was a liberal. that's why the religious establishment did away with him.
I'm not sure what Beck's political affiliation is, but we all certainly know Ms. Palin's affiliation. REPUBLICAN.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, IT'S A DUCK!!!
Beck was mentioned as a "Libertarian" on John Stossel's show on Libertarianism, but as a Libertarian I must come out and say he absolutely is NOT. Libertarians don't believe in shoving their brand of religion down other peoples' throats or a "Christian nation". If he were a Libertarian he would be for freedom of religion and respect other peoples' religious choices. Instead of talking about religion, he'd have spent the rally talking the whole time about adherence to the Constitution. While it's ok to not agree with every single party platform, freedom of religion is so paramount for the Libertarian party I don't think you can disagree with that one and reasonably call yourself a member of the party.
This is all about inflaming the nation and the people that will come out to this are 95% subscribers to the notion that America is for white people and only Christian white people. I cannot believe we have come this far to let the derranged lead us down the path of darkness.
Jesus was a socialist, Troy1.
#@!
rick nichols, you are the idiot!!
Lets take our country back...shall we?
tinman: Back to where? The Dark Ages? Nope, ain't gonna happen.
Let the religious right keep up its shenanegans. They're going to find out where "back" means, because the majority of us will not keep sitting by allowing this stupidity to continue. We're awaiting that "button" to be pushed. They're slowly approaching it and as soon as it's pushed, all hell's gonna break loose. The religious right (aka Republican Party, aka Tea Party, etc.) will meet its end, because it is an organized factory that pumps out false profits. Very soon, this country will be rising up to shut that capitalism worshipping (not Jesus) cult down for good.
Keep going "moral majority". Push that button of no return. Ronny Reagan is rolling over in his grave, along with so many other revolutionary Republicans who knew the difference between good governance and the proposed crap the new Republican Religious organization is about to impose on the masses.
Troy...
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
Stephen Robets
tinman...People move forward not backward. When they try to recapture the past, it slips through their fingers faster than quicksilver. It is time to move forward. Not backward. It is time to correct all of the errors of the past and supplant them with newer better more prodigious ideas.
Frankly, those who want to take their country back...are really saying they want to take it back so they can have better or more control over the rest of us.
Tinman - from whom exactly do you want to take your country back? From me? Is it not my country too? When I hear this I hear the wailing of people who long for a time when minorities knew their places, women modeled themselves after June Cleaver and the WASPs ruled. Sorry buddy but you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube! It's MY country as much as it's yours and while I'm willing to share and compromise on certain policy issues etc. I can not and will not give your country back to you, because quite frankly...your country no longer exists!! It is our country now!
Right on Peachblossom!
Actually, if they're for a White America, then wouldn't they be against the path toward darkness??
You're right. It seems this country isn't ours anymore. This once great country has been betrayed by its own leaders.
A country belongs to those who not only build it, but to those who will FIGHT to keep it. If the traditional Americans (White Anglo-Saxons) are unwilling to fight for it and hang leaders that commit treason against it, then we will get what we have today: A country of marxist, degenerate, welfare dependent, ignorant, high-tax-paying, enslaved mongrels with a doomed future.
Where in your religion did you learn such hatred? I hope I stay away from that religion!
The day that Glen Beck decides to speak truth and to honor others besides himself, is the day that I will accept him to be a 'God-loving man'.
He's absolutely fake. Everyone should go watch Jon Stewert's episode about this idiot and his rally - it's the best.
Suzy Q.
Let me get this straight, tell the truth, have you ever listened to Beck or do you just listen to sound bites on liberal biased news outlets. Jon Stewart is a COMEDIAN, he gets paid to make people laugh. If your news gathering source is Jon Stewart you are the idiot.
I have listened to Beck for years and he has not change he is a fear mongering idiot, who distorts the truth in almost anything he says, and if you listened to anybody else you would know the difference. If you think America should be for white and whites only thats fine just say so but don't hide behind the constitution.
@ Jusus
Perhaps you wouldn't mind telling us which episode of beck's, does he tell us america is for white's only. He posts all if his past episodes on line, so if you wouldn't mind telling me the date of that show, I would like to see it.
I don 't get into the whole religion thing, but what I DO like about Beck is that he DOES research his facts BEFORE he airs them. When he talks about politicians, he shows them in their own words, he doesn't just make up crap like most of the networks.
All I hear from these haters is what a liar he is, by all means, please give a real example and some link or date to your proof.
I saw the John Stewert episode where he made fun of Beck. He played sound bites of Beck telling us not to let the government control us or tell us what to do then Stewert played sound bites of Beck telling us what to do to keep our freedoms. Government telling me what to do and Beck giving advise as to what to do, are two different items. Becks advise, get involved, see what your kids are being taught, study a little history about the people we vote for. The liberals don't want any history, they pretend they are pro-black when they send civil counselors to blacks to encourage them to have abortions, "for the good of the country". Then you find out later that, "for the good of the country", ment to eliminate the black race. While I disagree with Bcek on the imigration stancem I hear his wake up call to america to get involved and study the issues.
If Jon Steward's lame satires belong here then no-one with brains belongs here. Bye---
the funny part is that it's true.
Don't you get it?
Jon Stewart is a smartass comedian! and that is one problem if you get your info from that show,he is a typical elitist,secular,entertainer who thinks he knows more than the MAJORITY of the country, I may not always agree with everything thing Beck said or does but he has a point on so many issues and especially how some HONOR needs to be restored in the country. When is the last time any of you haters have talked to a vet and asked them how honored this admin has made them feel? I could list examples of the way the military has been dishonored by OBAMA but it would be too long. So ANYBODY that tries to bring this country back to what the CONSTITUTION and what being AMERICAN stands for has got my support,oh but I guess that just means I am a mice or a sheep or I drank the Koolaid, the typical liberal responses to people who love GOD and COUNTRY! but I think it is they who need to pull their colllective heads out of their and Obamas ass!!!
All of this is humor of the lowest rank.
All the liberal types are now creeping out from beneath their little rocks and screaming about the untruths that are apparently Glen Beck's stock in trade ---- so without delay ..... HOW ABOUT CITING SOME OF THESE LIES SO WE CAN ALL SHARE IN THE WISDOM THIS DISCLOSURE WILL PRODUCE .
Here's your opportunity to defend your views -- tell us what lies Beck is spreading rather than the continued babbling that I see on this site. It is patently ridiculous .
Of course you can also blame G.W.Bush --- or perhaps you'd prefer to listen to Al Sharpton , or Jesse Jackson ... both of whom can't muster an honorable debate without inserting that ugly shadow of RACISM ....... DUH ....... and somebody talks about DUMB AND DUMBER ?
You got it pal . Take a look at the crowd that Beck generated and the joke that Sharpton attempted......and you'll see where America stands .
Just the other side of idiocrocity.
Jusus
Beck rarely says anything negative unless he offers something that would be better. I rarely listen to him, and haven't listened to him in months, but have great respect for what he is doing. He researches things and points out the truths that people want forgotten, so they can create a new false truth. Those false truths are what we are being fed, and fed, and fed, so we won't recognize the real truth.
So...when Beck says it will fundamentally transform America (in your article), it's a threat, but...when Obama said it, it was hope?
I agree! The only thing Obama "hoped for" is nobody find out he was and is lying about everything he said; like "no new taxes". "No government tax money to pay for abortions". yeah, right. Beck is a hero.
Obama didn't try to use religion to further himself or gain support, like Beck is doing.
Beck is a hero to the weak minded/ignorant and those easily swayed by emotions.
so tell me what did Obama use to fool the majority of weak minded americans
hope!!!!
change!!!!
give me a break we have less hope and absolutely no change happened
Hope and change are extremely abstract concepts. We've absolutely had change. It was never going to be the revolution that the radical extremes of either side thought it was going to be.
He definitely has given plenty of people hope. Hope that a half black man could be president, hope that things were going to get better... And you can argue that either way.
But ultimately, Lobo is right. Obama, president of the United States, does not use religion to further his cause. A quarter of the population is so stupid that despite overwhelming evidence, they believe that Obama is a Muslim, rather than a Christian, even after condemning his choice to attend the church of Rev. Wright for as long as he had.
If you don't like Obama, that's fine. But do it for the right reasons. Rational reasons. If you think that Obama is a Maoist, as Glenn Beck often says, which is to say that he believes in purporting to promote the advancement of the Chinese peasant and rural farm worker using a uniquely Chinese brand of Communism that entails a number of Capitalistic institutions... If you believe THAT, as Glenn Beck does, you simply have no idea what you're talking about.
Here is what i believe. No man including Obama can sit in a church for twenty years and listen to a minister without actually hearing what he is saying. He is what he was taught both as a boy when he was schooled in the Muslim faith and later by Rev. Wright who schooled him in Communist Socialist beliefs. If you were schooled in both things then you probably would be a Marxist Muslim. If the shoe fits wear it.
If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck it is probably a duck.
American Lobo: When Obama made the comment about the muslim center at ground zero during a Ramadan dinner he WAS USING RELIGION TO PANDER FOR VOTES! Are you lefties just so blind as to not see this. Use your head big guy!!
Yeah, Obama had to throw Wright under the bus, as Black Liberation Theology wasn't working for him.
Actually, I don't think trying to improve relations with some of the people that are trying to kill us is pandering votes using religion. I think getting votes is the consequence.
Obama was not attempting to force a RELIGIOUS STATE on anyone. Beck is.
Well, since he was in Rev. Wright's Christian church for those years you state he was learning communism, wouldn't that make him a Christian-Marxist-Muslim under your theory?? Like you said, how can someone listen to something (Christian sermons) for twenty years without hearing what's being said? For that matter, wouldn't your theory mean that twenty years of sitting in a church would overwrite the Muslim teachings, leaving him a Marxist Christian, if anything. Either twenty years does or doesn't effect him, not both depending on what you want to be true for which thing he was supposedly taught.
At best, Beck is an egomanical showman milking his new found popular appeal. At worst, he is an egomanical hatemonger embarked on a crusade to transform America into something far different than a pluralistic democracy. His message, embedded in distorted and often blatently false religious and historic references, is really all about intolerance and the not so subtle racism of "us versus them." His version of American, if it ever existed, ended with the civil war.
Mike,
I think you're right. They say this "rally" is not about politics. My question is: What is it about? What's the point in even holding it to begin with?
Lord help us all! I am watching Martin Luther King's niece, et.al. and cannot believe the irony and the extent to which some Black folks still carry the plantation mentality.
Mike, at best, you are full of s---. HATE, you don't have any idea what religion consists of, how can Beck be hating if he is saying for us to get ready and protect what we have in this country. You are so asleep that you haven't even noticed that our rights are fast leaving. Now, myself, one day soon I will be watching as you bow down to Jesus acknowledging him, you won't be on your high horse any more from that time.
Mickey and Mike, the rally is titled, "Restoring Honor". Are you Neo-Libs so far removed from those two words to be able to figure it out?
and Obama is a great golfer...LOL on the tax payers dollar. He loves to spend our money where ever he wants without asking us where, when, and how. Beck at least works for a living and it's up to everyone (choice) to choose what, when, and how to buy. Beck offers freedom, Obama offers nothing but lies.
How many vacations has obama had since he's been in office?
Obama is not a great golfer. Please don't tarnish the name of the sport. Ask the Scots - what Irishman was ever a great golfer?
If Beck wants to "restore honor", then maybe he should try gaining some himself first.
No honorable person makes a living conning people and riling up the emotions of those easily led(like children).
I doubt Obama has taken any more "vacations" at this point in his presidency, than any other POTUS. But thanks for trying to make an issue out of nothing.
why don't u just listen to the words
listen and try to understand what he is saying
i am not an american i am in the USA (legally) because i used to believe that
this country was the best country in the world (guess i was wrong)
i have never seen a more ignorant lily livered stupid people in my life
u people have something and u are losing it becuase u no longer see the way
open ur eyes people u will soon be stepped on by all those u think are ur friends
hey mike
would u please just please
mention one just one item where beck has said something that was not correct
just give me one no bull@!$%# just one factual point that was wrong
"Restoring Honor"
Glenn Beck claims that Van Jones is an admitted Communist, while Van Jones says that's in the past.
Glenn Beck is therefor a lifelong alcoholic. Because people can't and don't ever change.
Do we really want alcoholics with ADHD restoring our honor, America?... WAKE UP!
(lolz)
And because Jones said it was in the past means that it's true. Ironic how you pick and choose what is the spoken truth and what is said in order to advance one's career...
How is that ironic, defined as "something other than the expected result"? The word's not applicable at all... Did you actually know what it even meant?
Because you were trying to make Beck out to be an alcoholic because Van Jones claimed he was no longer a Communist. When, in fact, Jones still practices his Communist ways through his speeches and actions. Hence, his resignation from the Barry Regime.
So, since you didn't expect Jones to still be a Communist (and he is) and didn't want Beck to be sober (and he is), it was ironic.
Irony is also a form of sarcasm and proof of other's expressed ignorance (which is why your statement was ironic). Glad you had to look up the meaning of the word, though. :)
Lol No, no he isn't. And you can't prove or verify either of those. If you think Jones is a Communist, that's a matter of opinion. A Communist is a person interested in a global network of Socialism.
If you're going to call Van Jones a Communist because of... whatever BS combination of "words and actions", and assume that he's a Communist because you're not willing to take him at his word that he's not, I can assume that Beck is an alcoholic based on his goofy, weird antics and erratic behavior.
And as we've seen, the Obama administration is constantly capitulating to various pressures from the Right wing, despite all of the nonsense they spew about how he's a dictator and blah blah blah... Ya know, the other made up crap, like the example you've just given.
If we're gonna throw out ad hominems, I'd like point out the "irony" of using a cliche such as "not a sheep" to convey that you think for yourself.
A Communist is a person interested in a global network of Socialism
When Van Jones was appointed to the Barry Regime, he confirmed his dedication to the network of Socialism...
Even a blind sheep could see that.
By the way, what is the difference between Socialism and Progressivism besides the name?
Lol again, do you have anything to back any of this up other than you want it to be true?
Progressives want, aptly enough, societal progress. On issues like race relations, gender equality, preventing "too-big-to-fail" institutions and monopolies... I mean, I don't know why I'm explaining this to you, because you've got a pre-conceived notion of what your idea of Progressives are from a fat, obnoxious morning DJ who likes to tell people that they shouldn't listen to X group because they're trying to run their lives, then proceeds to tell people exactly how they should run their lives.
No, I have no opinions one way or the other of any ideological label. I do find it wrong to achieve "societal progress" by means of taking from someone who has and giving to someone who has not. Especially when so many of those whom have not are third or fourth generation have nots and have no intention of having.
Charity is a great thing. My wife and I give more than we can sometimes afford to several charities in the area. But when the gov't decides for me what I should give and what I have to give, it is no longer a good thing.
Do you realize that it's been almost 40 years since FDR's Great Society and we (the taxpayer) are still shelling out billions to fund programs that do nothing more than keep people dependent on big government? When people figured out a way to live off of the gov't entitlements instead of using them as a temporary crutch, the progress in Progressivism failed.
By the way, other than the gov't controlling all enterprise, how is Progressivism different from Socialism? Or do Progressives believe in limited capitalism in order to have a demo to steal from in order to pay for their entitlements?
Van Jones Communist/Marxist beliefs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPKqfCX3VCg
And if you choose to ignore those facts: http://www.examiner.com/conservative-politics-in-national/van-jones-green-jobs-czar-a-self-described-communist-arrested-during-rodney-king-riots
The direction that the Progressive Woodrow Wilson set us on has been a disaster. The Progressive Income tax was never supposed to never increase past 7%. The Progressive FDR's Social Security is anything but secure and through his extensive spending, the Depression was lengthened. As an excuse for the lengthened Depression, he raised the max tax to 24%. Do you see the platform in which Obama is working from here? LBJ's Progressive programs are seldom more than a money pit on the steps of every American's door. Obama's special interest ties to the Progressive movement have proved to be just as troubling. Tax the rich, the not so rich, and while we're at it, tax everyone else with an income but make sure we tell them that we're sticking to the rich, baby!
No fat guy, skinny guy, or Chinese guy has to tell me that taxing and spending America into debt to ensure that it's citizens rely solely on the gov't in order to ensure that government's power is insane. Social engineering by way of abortion, health panels, or taking from me and giving to you because I worked harder and/or made more money to support my family isn't Progressive, it's nothing more than gov't sponsored theft.
If, by definition, "pre-conceived notion"means opinion based on historical facts, then I guess I do have a pre-conceived notion that Progressivism is just a nice way to tell those havesthat we're coming for you. History has proven it for 80+ years.
The old "give" to someone who dosent have is crap anyways. By giving constant hand outs you are just enabling someone (or a group) to be lazy. The old saying "teach a man to fish...". I totally agree, if you work hard and earn your keep, you should keep it. No one is going to come into my home and tell me that i have to give a portion of what i earn to some garbage down the street just because they say so. I give to many groups as well to help those that truly need it. Not just some family of welfare bums that feel they are entiltled because they produced a large family and sat on thier tail.
hiddenjedi ...
Oh and thank you so much GODLY One...And may you sit in the right hand of GOD and be the judge of all others...Because you are so wise and righteous...Calling others garbage just makes you sound like white-trash...And no doubt you are...
Pot meet kettle.
Who said anything about God, has nothing to do with it. It has to do with hard working people that wake up every morning and go to work and build themselves a nice life. Then those people are told that just because someone who does nothing is entitled to a portion of what is made just because they exist, is well crap. Seeing I got your panties in a bunch i'll use a different phrase than "garbage", how bout, lazy whiners that cry if they dont get their handouts?? How bout that? Oh and white trash dosent offend me, or racist or lefty or righty, or any other creative terms some blogger on the vine comes up with. I wouldnt call it judging, i would call it not wanting to support the deadwood anymore. I dont think that is much to ask...
Hidden, You have made a judgment about people, that you really do not even know. You have lumped anyone that is a Democrat or liberal as someone who is getting government handouts. That is so far from the truth. Maybe where you live and the circles you run with that is true, but where I live and the circles I am in, that is the opposite. My husband and I worked for over 70 yrs. combined between us. We are college graduates and no we do not think we are elite, just were fortunate enough to go to school to enable us to have a better life. We went without govt handouts. We had 3 sons, who we raised and educated. We are now retired, and we do not owe anyone. We planned very carefully for our retirement, and though we are not rich, we are comfortable. We both feel that because of the advantages we've had, from our educations and our careers that we owe a great debt to those that are less fortunate than us. We volunteer with CASA and are very active in our community, church and family. We really get tired of being called all the names that people such as yourself, who do not know any of us, just because we differ with you politically. We do not want your money, nor need it. But the amazing thing I discovered while I was an RN for over 30 yrs was all of us go out of this world the same way we came in, in our birthday suit and taking nothing with us. You can lecture and rant about people that you have no idea about, but I say to you, take care of your own self and if you can live with what you do, so be it.
Lynn,
I was not lumping an entire group together, just the few that feel they are "entiltled". I too give to many charities and try to help my fellow man if it is asked of me. But i would rather give to a charity such as a family that just lost the house in a fire down the street, than into a pot that is divided for people that dont even lift a finger to try to contribute. I too have worked hard, raise a child (congrats on your 3) and do what I can to help where I can. I understand my bluntness comes across as a selfish or elitist attitude. But it is far from that. I am not pleased with the direction we are ALL headed, and it is due to a major drain on the systems that were put in place for people that truly needed help, and now sadly are being exploited by those that take advantage of it. I am not lecturing anyone. I, as all of you on this site am expressing my beliefs and opinons as I see It, and I in turn respect yours. :)
All this debate about muslim temple at the sit of 9-11 and the Beck rally, what people dont understand is that religion is a divider, all this my god is better than yours has been starting wars for 1000's of years, its time to drop these wishbook fantasies and let humanity progress for the good of humankind. I vote no religion for 2012.
Life it self is a divider. Famly in fighting. Countries and Nations are divided. Races are divided. The whole world is divided in more ways then these. That is the difference between evil and good. Leaving religion out is not the solution either but love is and where is it? Hardly ever seen. Hate for everything imaginable is the mode of this world, where ever you live there is hate or love, each of us must decide what which we perfer. Life will be better for it. God perfers love and satin perfers hate. Love will always win.
I agree, Jesus Christ is not a religion, He is a person, who died for all of humanity. He is God the Son. Over 500 witnesses saw Him after He rose from the dead as He appeared through the following 40 days. Oh, wait! unless the liberals revisionists took that out of history too. There's now, even a dial-a=prayer for atheists. You call a number and nobody answers. That's UR wasted life with a bad ending.
Did you personally talk to all those "witnesses"? or did you just read it in a book written by other humans?
If you need the threat of punishment to love/follow someone, than you need help.
That idealogy is obviously created by humans(emperors controlling subjects).
No real perfect spiritual being of love, would ever punish(hellfire and damnation) anyone for not following them, only a dictator would do that.
You are right on one thing though> Jesus was a person.
i guess the questio we should ask ourselves is
what would the powers that be say if
catholics
jews
greek orthodox
hindus
each wanted to build around that area
Odin...you are so right!
odin
You have hit the nail on the head so to speak...Most Americans (75%+) are not bible carrying church going members...And even their #'s are dwindling...Thank GOD...Religion and state must stay separate for any country to exist without the few controling religion for all...
I'd really like to see where you're getting you 75+% numbers from. I personally think you're full of it. Even prominent atheists still believe we are predominantly a Christian nation (meaning most people believe in God and Christ).
Ya want numbers?
I got numbers. I got lots of numbers. :-)
76% of Americans, when asked, will identify themselves as "Christian."
44% of those Christians consider themselves Evangelical or "Born Again."
33% of those Christians are Catholic.
8.5% of those Christians are deistic, i.e., God is not a personal God, but an unknowable force.
15% of Americans, when asked, will identify themselves as "Atheist," "Agnostic," or "no religion." This has almost doubled from a similar study in 1990.
(source: American Religious Identification Survey (ARIS 2008))
As far as actual attendance, get ready for this; it's anyone's guess, but it's probably less than you think.
The Institute for Social Research's World Values (U Mich) in 1977 reported that 44% of Americans attended church.
The Barna Research Group reported in a 2005 study, "47% of American adults attend church in a given weekend, not including a special event such as a wedding or a funeral."
Gallup Polls for the past several years have reported roughly 38% to 44%.
HOWEVER (and here's the kicker)
In 1998, two reporters for a Christian magazine, C. Kirk Hadaway and P.L. Marler, conducted a reasonably intensive study to find out how many people might be *lying* about having attended church. They found that as much as HALF were mis-reporting their attendance. Their article can be found here: "Did You Really Go To Church This Week? Behind the Poll Data"
So while 75% is, in truth, NOT a supportable statistic, it really may not be far off from accurate. The only claim fully supported by polls is that more then 50% of Christians freely admit that they do not go to church every week.
Regards
Actually if he meant those who don't attend church, I can buy that. A lot of people who believe are more and more jaded with denominational religion, and thus just choose to observe from home. I know I have taken that route after feeling overly judged at church for most of my life. Also, you have the mega church swindlers stealing seniors paychecks for vials of miracle water. All in all, organized religion has turned into a charlatan's game. My family and I observe our religious rites at home, and I don't feel any less religious because of it.
Now on THAT, Gharms, you have my full agreement and support.
I, too, have observed the purity and strength of small community churches (of ALL denominations) become weakened by those who have exploited religion to their own ends. I have had a number of friends, deeply religious and dedicated to their Christian faith, who have been deeply disappointed by their apparent inability to find a good church or parish.
Now, I often attend services at any given Universalist/Unitarian church. Most often, they would be small organizations in small towns. I've met a number of of Christians (for the sake of argument, let's consider them 'mainstream' Christians) who would occasionally attend services there. They often do not fully agree with Universalism, but rather prefer the strong sense of fellowship and community which is fostered there.
Regards
If there is haven and hell then Glen Beck is going to hell. He has broken all the ten commandments.
He does it everyday. So for you people thinking you believe in God. Just go read the commandments. If you have have read the Bible he is the false preacher who uses Gods name in vain and you the followers will go to hell with him.
wow! a genius in the making. "pants on the ground". If one breaks even 1 commandment the cost is death. So how can U get to the next commandment if you break even one? duh! If UR gonna pontificate from UR paper throne, do UR homework. The ten commandments don't save U. It points out what a wretch U are. Just like civil laws. It tells U, for example, don't rob a bank, you'll go to jail. Does it save U? No, it informs U of the consequences if U break the law. Read the Bible. It is written, "All have sinned and all have fallen short of the Glory of God." That encludes you, buddy.
hey rachel
tell me what did beck say that broke the ten commandments
if anything u should go there for wishing he will
Nothing religious should be built around the site of the twin towers. A memorial should be built to honor every person who perished that day.
rachel....everyone has broken one commandment....and if you break ONE you break them all....keeping the commandments does NOT get you into heaven.....