Nothing like our President reaffirming the obvious...however...the US still buys more product than anyone in the world which still makes us dominant economically. Nothing like our President feeding the decline of the value of our dollar by telling people we suck...sometimes I wish he could walk around with a teleprompter attached to his head so he wont say anything stupid at all.

I also wonder where are the lefties screaming at the job promotion overseas in India for US citizens. Really...outsourcing our own people now...what retarded company would do that when they have cheap labor already present there in India. This guy is a boob.

yeah!! Stop wasting the money Republicans want to waste. How selfish. How dare you.

Does anyone else notice that the biggest cry babies are the GOP sheep?, they moan and whine about every little thing, makes our country look like a country of whiners, but if it was a GOP President they keep their traps shut no matter what he would do, hell the last GOP President caused our economy to collapse and did anyone say a thing? NO ..... Get a grip people ...

You are absolutely right!! Hes touring ASia for the sake of muslims, not for the sake of American interest........even though Indias majority is following Hinduism. Wait, what about South Korea?? CHina?? South Korea?? And Japan?? You should really recant your last statement.......Doesnt look good on you

No, he spent four years of his life there.... Read the first sentence of the article. Actually, not even. Its the subtitle. Is it that hard to read?

Stephen! Stop! You must not present facts to the teabaggers! They cannot take the weight!

It takes a lot of travel to undo the international shambles Bush left us in. I don't recall you neocon girls whining about Bush's trips...my favorite is the one he took to Crawford, most of the summer, while he ignored repeated warnings of a terrorist attack...

I guess Obama is in hog heaven now. His old stomping grounds.

And David, Dublin, Ireland, are you KIDDING? He could care LESS about Americans getting back to work.

We need to burn that "bridge" while he's on the other side ...

Obama is black? wow He sure doesnt look like it or act like it. Must have missed something.

actually WW3comin, we need a yellow brick road bridge installed, ASAP. as a matter of fact, there should be a black Knight, and a white Knight in every gates of the United Kingdoms.

alittle pee from the mom and dad.......hmmmmm?

No matter what Obama (or any other president) does, some will find the most minuscule fault and make a mountain out of a mole hill.

It's a shame, I see it everyday in the real world. All this bickering makes the US look like a bunch of idiots. I realize many of us are living in hard times, so why do we try to make it worse?

If you have some noteworthy facts to publish, I'm all for that. But making up crap, and listening to Fox or MSNBC "ENTERTAINMENT" isn't worth anything.

Yes, those prime time people you all follow are not actual news, it's entertainment. Kinda like taking advice from cartoons. Silly? You bet it's silly, what's worse is that people don't realize that!

Bush never did that...he just tanked our entire economy

and to the Knights, do not seal any books, they must be open for God to Quickly read threw.....God is a fast reader you know, which means, God must read the opposite of his descendants.

I'm sure the President is having a good "welcome home" party.

Whatever, how about fostering some good relations here in the ol' US of A??

Once again, Obama feels the need to reach out to the Muslim world..........on our dime. I believe Air Force One will be totally worn out by the time his term comes to an end.

Has anyone yet to come up with a good, honest estimate of HOW MUCH IS THIS TRIP COSTING U.S. TAXPAYERS ??????????

Reading these comments makes me realize why our unemployment rate is at 9.6 %. We're a nation of fools, and most here are too stupid to compete in a global economy. This is a first hand look at the effects of cuts in education.

We've become conservative on intelligence!

I don't care how much more he a$$-licks the muslim world, like its going to make a difference. They look up from their bomb making work benches for a second, have a laugh and go right back to it.

You know Ryan at first your comments made a lot of sense but then with the conservative remark you blew it, I'm pretty sure there are just as many Dems. as Repubs. that are dealing withlow self esteem, get off the party wagon.

carlos

we where attacked the first year of Bushs as pres and where not attacked again during his pres. While in two years how many close calls have we had with Obama? Atleast a couple come to mind right away. Just like the black panthers they know Obama will let them go.

Bush spent a trillion dollars on wars from 9/11 and dems kept being the party of no when he wanted more money for proper equipment for or troops. Then Obama spends trillions of dollars on failed policy and the blind, tree hugging, baby killing, criminal releasing, uneducated liberals say he's the chosen one.

phew there are a lot of righty whine baggers out today, must have been a blanket email or something?

So the president isn't doing what you like? wow there's something new. These are all the same cry babies that don't like the way he gets up in the morning. This just in, Obama puts on socks like a communist :P

Sell Obama to the highest bidder..or lowest...whatever is takes..just get this traitor out of America

The level of ignorance on here is amazing. All presidents make visits to foreign countries and all of them at least claim to attempt to build bridges. Yet, when this president does HIS DUTY, he is unreasonably chastized by you know-it-alls.

Honestly I don't think there is anything that this president could do to appease a lot of you tea-baggers. Unless of course he could change his race.

exactly right Brenden, if he gave us all tax cuts they'd find a way to complain... oh wait a minute!

Another dagger in the heart of Americans

Longhair,

do your job in a way that it benefits, not harm, the citizen of the United States.

That is exactly what he is doing. If Bush would have reached out after 9/11 instead of getting us into wars we'd be better off. War only begets hatred and nore war. Reaching out in friendship is a step toward bringing about peace.

Barrata...

Re: post 1.2

I don't think he's got anything to worry about...

@Lynn-350504

Wow....it's pretty obvious where your problem with Obama lies. Not in his the performance of his job, but in the color of his skin. Sick & Sad.

Obama could announce millions in funding to fight climate change by protecting Indonesia's forests, sources say, although large corporate deals have not been flagged.

The United States exports only about $6 billion worth of goods to Indonesia each year, making it America's 37th largest market, according to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. Two-way trade is likely to pick up slightly to around $20 billion this year.

Great...like he hasn't blown enough money here, now he wants to send more overseas to protect someone else's trees?

Glad he's fostering such a good relationship with a country that doesn't help our economy but makes it worse by running at a huge trade deficit. A country filled with radical muslims that would like nothing more than to blow up our buildings...

Yet, in his little arrogant mind, the only enemies are those that are here that won't support his crappy bills.

Worst president ever

@ Huskergal "reach out after 9/11?!" So he was supposed to tell Bin Laden that it was "OK", we'll become your version of Muslims and then everything will be right in the world?!?! That is the only thing that would have prompted peace. Sorry, it is not our President's place to make that kind of decision for the American people.

I dont know, sometimes he acts more like a muslim than a Christian...what would Rev. Wright say??? Rev. Al Sharpton??? Rev. Jesse Jackson??? Crickets are chirping!!

Another Nevile Chamberlain want-a-be...

LouisJ

I love how MSNBC publishes this tripe just to get the Republithugs in a frenzy. TEA Drinkers are like hornets, hit the nest and watch them go crazy. They can't stand a black man in office and definitely can't stand him being a better president than the last 6.

Louis, I think the REAL problem is that YOU can’t stand the FACT that he won’t be President in 2012!

You better do something about your anger management or its going to be a rough 2 years for you.

Oh and BTW, he is not black, he is mulatto!

Maybe THAT is also bothering you?

Funny. Thats a great picture of him and his new friend. He appears happier in that photo than he has during his entire so called 'Presidency". Out of the US and surrounded by Muslims. You go, Bo-rack.

This barrage of hatred and bilious criticism posted here certainly does not spring from facts or even a half-informed understanding of the importance of this trip.

Two very large economic entities and regional powers, India and Indonesia, represent significant factors in American interests. Not only trade is involved. Natural resources from Indonesia are extremely important to the U.S., particularly petroleum, natural gas, timber (including some rare woods that might be best left unharvested), and minerals. India is in a position to substantially increase its purchases from America, which indeed would create jobs - but it is also a strategic concern for Southeast Asia. India is a multi-religious nation, with Buddhism and the Hinudu faith predominating. Indonesia is the world's most populous Muslim state - and a leader among the moderate approaches to that faith.

All of Asia is essential to American security, economic, and even cultural interests.

Some here have spit on the President's remarks, claiming he shows "weakness" by "apologizing" to Muslims, or talking down about Americans. Well, some of you probably deserve to feel that way, since the virulent and illogical hatred of all things Muslim by some Americans is what he addressed, and some here proudly proclaim such feelings.

But "weakness?" Not at all. Rather, the President's trip emphasizes the strength of the United States. He is doing more to build up this nation's strength, too, by forging closer and warmer ties in this part of the world.

And this IS the President's job. He defines America's international policy, and directs its implementation. In his brief time in office, he has done much to restore this nation's reputation and standing, so horribly tarnished by the arrogance and incompetence of the Bush Administration. Only the purblind enemies of our fine President Obama cannot begin to understand that.

He should be trying to "tackle misunderstandings and mistrust" at home. But he clearly refuses to acknowledge those problems in his own backyard...

Not smart.

India wants assurances that the US won't penalize companies that outsource jobs? Wake up America. Obama is selling your jobs to India. And the Democrats ran on penalizing companies that outsource. Outrageous.

@ Huskergal "reach out after 9/11?!"

First of all, we do not know who attacked us on 9/11. Instead of an investigation we were handed lies; a basketful. Instead of building this country up from within, and going on with life, we got hoodwinked into two wars. It has been 9 years now and we still haven't caught bin Laden. Anyone wonder why? Could it possibly be that we have been made afraid of an imaginary hobgoblin named Osama? Do you not realize that we are only now beginning to learn the truth and we must keep digging for it? We would have so much better off if we reached out instead of walking all over our ally's and starting two wars.

I'm wondering...How do you repair bridges that a radical group of those you are trying to court burned?? I truly don't believe that there is a complete disconnect between the US and the non-radical Muslim world.... And for those who sit there and say "you didn't complain when Bush did it", well no...But YOU did, so why aren't you complaining now? Plus there wasn't this much national anger then......

And Husker gal...Hoodwinked into two wars?? I'll give you Iraq, but Afghanistan?? You have heard about the Taliban right?? You have heard about Al Qaeda right?? You have heard about their marriage in the late 90's right?? Have you, or is your conspiracy paranoia not allow you to actually SEE things how they were/are?

'Building bridges': Obama courts Muslims

'ROOTS 2010: Obama searches his past'

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Obama has turned into a sitcom and a poor one at that but why not Underdog? At least Underdog loves America.

Does this president feel that the attacks on 9/11 were the result of "misunderstanding" or "mistrust" ???

Madison.....

I've been saying that for over a year....one of the networks should have put together a half-hour sitcom on the Obama White House. There's been some classic set ups.....like the time he went on TV to announce he wanted to expand offshore drilling and then the BP well blows oil all over the Gulf. Or when he flies overseas to "sell" America as host for a future Olympics....gives his pitch.....and learns on the flight home that he lost the sale.

The producers would have had to expand the show to a full hour for the episode covering last week's elections.....I can see him shouting at Sasha to turn the Justin Biieber music down as the Democrat losses are rolling in on the news....then bickering with Michelle...who gets ticked off and takes the prez down like a linebacker.

There could have been some Emmy Awards...in the "comedy" catagory, of course.

@ Huskergirl - maybe you don't know who attacked us, but the rest of us do. I bet you believe in black helicopters and the New World Order too. Believe what you want, but the fact is these terrorists goal is to wipe us out. That is what their twisted interpretation of the Koran tells them. The only way to make peace with them is to believe just like them. Is that what you are prepared to do to make "peace?" Is this the "reaching out" you are going to force Americans into to achieve your "Ivory Tower" goal? Sorry, this is America, we have the right to worship as we please. We are never going to let Terrorist in any country tell us what to believe.

@huskergirl #1.44

I watched a lengthy documentary on National Geographic Channel this past weekend entitled........Inside 9/11. This long, narrative presentation ran for about 4 hours and covered an amazing amount of detail about the history of Soviet War in Afghanistan, Osama Bin Laden and all matters relating to the terrorist attack on the Twin Trade Centers, the Pentagon, etc.

The coverage also included an amazing amount of detail, investigated, tracked down and sometimes "caught on film" of the 19 hijackers who participated in this destruction.....including where they lived, where they trained to fly large planes, etc, etc.........right up to the day of the attacks.

Again, you can bury your head in the sand and espouse some kind of conspiracy theory, if you like, but this lengthy documentary pretty well proves the sources of these terrorists............all the way down to WHERE they bought their boxcutters........used to slit the throat of at least one passenger when taking over a plane.

huskergal, while there are many of you throughout these posts, you are without a doubt the most delusional of the bunch. Congratulations.

Left-wingers, each side in a debate will obviously have those who are an embarrassment to the others. She is one of your brightest and best (and no, huskergal, in case you're also confused about this, that is NOT meant as a compliment).

Sorry guys, I am not delusional. I am a N.Y.native and I do not know attacked us. I heard who the government said attacked us, but even on that horrible day, when many of my friends and neighbors lost their lives, I questioned it. If you guys want to believe everything you hear, so be it. I am not here to judge any of you and you do not have the right to judge me.

I realize the importance of going on trips around the world. I have no problem with trips of that nature. What I don't understand is, when did it become the job of the President of the United States to advocate for ONE religion? I don't see him saying things like, we shouldn't demonize all Catholics because of a few bad priests.

well, it appears that the public has demonized Muslims and since we have Freedom of Religion as part of the Constitution, our President has to speak out in support of them as it is his job to uphold the constitution. It is also his job to make secure this nation so that is what he is doing.

huskergal - attitudes like yours helped 9/11 happen. (And all the other attacks that have happens against Americans all over the world. ) Please stop repeating mistakes. The rest of us can't afford the consequences.

Sorry, I mispoke. A delusional conspiracy theorist.

Let me guess, next you'll propose that it was the right-wing government in power at the time that actually crashed the planes, so they could start a war, right?

Please, at a minimum, stay in FAR upstate NY, no sense in polluting the rest of the nation with your irrational rationale.

willowbrook, I think it very amusing that you say "people like me: when you do not even know me or anything about me. I do not know who attacked us on 9/11. I will not even venture a guess as to who was behind it because there are many, many possibilities.

It is not I that keep repeating mistakes. I learn from mine.

huskergal I said "attitude like yours." The attitude you are expressing on this thread is the same one that allowed repeated attacks to happen against American interests all over the world right up to and including 9/11. Until we took a stand and started fighting back, the attacks continued and escalated. We have to be defensive, not passive. You have the right to take a passive stance, but don't expect the rest of us to jump in line with you. We have seen the outcome of our country taking a passive or dismissive attitude toward these attacks and I don't want our country to continue making that mistake. We lost too many people during 9/11 (and before, for that matter) and if we stop defending our own safety, how many will it be next time? Will that be OK too? Will those lives be worth the cost of your idea of "reaching out?" In a perfect world, your idea would be great, but this is not a perfect world and we need to deal with these people, seeing them for what they are, not what we would like them to be. We have tried to deal with these people based on our own moral system. Unfortunately, it does not work, as they do not share our same beliefs. They have contempt for our beliefs and according to their interpretation of the Koran, we should be destroyed. How are your going to change their mind? I would sincerely like to know, as if you have a way, (that doesn't involve us becoming devout Muslims) you should be sent straight to Washington to solve this problem. You would be doing the entire world a favor, not just the United States. (I'm not being sarcastic.)

Why do people (mostly libs have to be reminded that the terrorists that savagely murdered over 3000 people were MUSLIMS,,,this peaceful religion dictates death penalty for slurs against some guy named mohammed,calls for religious "hit" against Salman Rushdie, because he outs Islam for what it is a religion of : intolerance, murder and hypocrisy, does not give women equal rights in their society, stones women who are alleged to commit adultery, death penalty for a muslim that converts to christianity, beheads people , cheered at the news of 9/11...Interesting how the moderate muslims are terified to speak out because they would be murdered too..and sure go ahead say all that crap about christian, blah blah blah,,,this is the 21st century everywhere but in Muslim Countries (maybe the 14th century there)..

You get respect by FORCE in their culture not whiney crybaby " can't we all just get along, lib rhetoric....Happy Veterans My Fellow Soldiers...too bad your CIC is incompetent, you deserve better!!

Why is it so wrong to ask the question: "What have we done to make you hate us so much?" Then just think about it. We have invaded Iraq twice. We've been in Afghanistan, now it is Pakistan than we are erroneously killing Muslims. How many of their people have we massacred?'

The whiney crybaby is definitely not me. I see the problem and I want to correct the problem. Violence only begets violence as we so tragically learned on 9/11.

@ Huskergal - that question has already been asked AND answered. where have you been, on a desert Island?! We've asked the question, know the answer, which is not something we are obligated/willing to do. It is not the Terrorists place to tell us what to think or do. We have to deal with them on their terms, not ours. Dealing with them on our terms have cost many American lives. Additionally, the violence stopped once we fought back, not vice versa.

I TRIED to point out how delusional huskergal was...hopefully it's starting to sink in for everyone.

Lonestar CBR

Great effort but I think Huskergal is beyond help. None are so blind as those who will not see.

huskergal:Okay, fair enough. Don't believe the government when they tell you who perpetrated the attacks on 9/11/01? How do you dismiss those who actually claimed responsibility for the attacks, which, oh no, as it turns out, are you ready?...they are the same people your government fingered for the crime. They are conspiring against themselves?

There's nothing wrong with asking a question to which you know no answer. That doesn't apply here.

Iraq visit #1, we're defending a helpless nation, Kuwait, so don't treat is as we simply decided it was time to start a war. I'll bet you're one of those who doesn't like the bully (Iraq), picking on the little kid (Kuwait), and normally welcome someone who steps up to put a stop to it.

Iraq visit #2, found or not, there was the very vocal threat of WMD, reports of such, and Saddam's history of actually using them on his own people. He threatened the US with them, do you continue to wait until they actually show up, especially considering the now well known terrorist intentions?

Afghanistan, I shouldn't have to explain at all (let me know if I do).

I've said it before, I'll say it again: you're delusional, with a heaping helping of denial thrown in for good measure.

Lonestar, I do not know who attacked us on 9/11. I wasn't there. I received the same information you did, but I do not buy into everything I hear. I have no answer to the question as of yet and I do not need you to explain anything to me. There is no answer YET. When it is absolutely proved then I'll have an answer and so will everyone else; until then I have nothing. I can't speak for anyone else.

Willowbrook, I am not afraid. There is no reason to be afraid. Live your life to the fullest and enjoy every moment of it.

She still failed to "hear" the aprt where the terrorist themselves have taken the credit, even BinLaden himself for that matter. Lord have mercy, bet she makes Nebraska proud!

Bin Laden said he didn't do it!

Here are some Links for you to read

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15892

http://articles.cnn.com/2001-09-16/us/inv.binladen.denial_1_bin-laden-taliban-supreme-leader-mullah-mohammed-omar?_s=PM:US

And a year after the 9/11 attack Fox news announced that bin Laden admitted doing it. Come on, A YEAR LATER?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137095,00.html

Here is even a more interesting article: Bush knew wxactly where bin Laden was - in the hospital in Rawalpindi

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO311A.html

So I really do not have any idea who was behind 9/11.

True, Ron.

By the same token, why should anyone in America be tollerant of Muslims?

My point is that Obama continually implores Americans to be tollerant of Muslims. But neither you nor I (nor anyone) has ever heard him implore Muslims to be tollerant of those who are not Muslims (the infidels).

Why do you suppose that is?

He has asked a lot of Muslims to include tolerance (see link to full text of Cairo Speech). The real question is will the moderate forces in the Islamic world overcome the fundamentalist forces? It looks very likely, but it will be a long and difficult struggle.

Why is it likely? First and foremost, there are many more moderates than fundamentalists, and it turns out that they don't hate us. Here in Afghanistan, we fight with Afghan forces at our side against fundamentalist and criminal elements within their country and from others. We are not fighting Islam. This is not a Crusade. Those that make it out to be have no understanding of either the problem or the solution, and make the task at hand far more difficult for the people engaged in the effort.

The world is getting smaller everyday and we best figure out better ways to live peacefully with one another.

www.nytimes.com/2009/06/04/.../04obama.text.html

IndependentThinker - I doubt you could be tolerant (please learn how to spell the word) of anyone. Christians should be tolerant of Muslims because that what Christians do.

@MisterG

(please learn how to spell the word)

First, I try to stay away from belittling a person's spelling or grammatical mistakes – we all make these types of mistakes. I am always making mistakes with my compositions. Just as you made with your composition. Look for the missing verb to be.

And NO! Christians should not tolerate Muslims. They should pray for them.

Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

The should pray for them but at the same time carpet bomb them, right. Yes their is a strain of Christianity that is just as violent as radical Islam my friends make no mistake about it.

For reality lol chek

America and some limited allies... (though it seems a lot more country's are under jihad plots to implement jihad than are willing to combat them.)

...They do not do these things in the name of christianity, but in the name of defending their people from terrorist jihad plots and actions.

Did the west countering of terrorist jihadism ever proclaim it in the name of christianity? No, so take your >dunce-cap head< attempt back to the corner with ya, and come with a better attempt to sow discord and misinformation against that which you clearly hate next time.

fool.

For the duration of my life, I will point out bad "intolerable christians". The ones that commit adultery, gamble, drink on the weekends, murder families, rob houses, send 3rd world countries into spiraling poverty which they can never return from, and start wars......Maybe the "good christians" will stand up for what is right. Right??

At least in a Muslim church kids are safe...

According to you they MIGHT be safe in a church but are they really safe if it's ok for their dad can kill them in the back of a cab for dating someone he doesn't like? Give me a break!

@Stephen P

Then it would be interesting to know what your definition of a Christian is.

For example: If I say that I'm an evolutionist, but say I believe the earth is around 6,000 years old, would you define me as an evolutionist?

OBAMA RALLIES HIS FELLOW MUSLIMS AGAINST THE UNITED STATES

FOX Spews: It's Not a Lie, If You Believe It

Independant Thinker: You might be independant, but you're not a thinker. You're an imbecile. Same goes for you Longhair!

smbelow - Catholics aren't Christians you say? And the world is 6,000 years old? I'd define you as ignorant, and it looks like also arrogant. One of the worst combinations of traits around.

And Obama's campaign to be named UN Secretary General continues...(Since that Presidential thing doesn't seem to be working out so well.)

smbelow.... I see we have another Catholic hater here, who wants to go back to medieval times to make his case. Do you even KNOW the definition of the word Christian?

boy o boy- as if grandmother needs you to teach her how to suck eggs.

Does anyone care to read the Constitution which washes its hands of religions but embraces faith?

People voted for a guy whose assocaites stomp and who ritualized aqua buddha as an adult.

Onward to the land of the chained, this time to Corporate Socialism.

The definition of a christian is one who believes Jesus Christ is the Son of God and creator of the world. Believes that he was born of a virgin and that He died for our sins and then rose from the dead as a sacrifice for us. He created us and gave us a life hence only he can restore life. We all sin and do wrong, even those who believe in Christ. It is the one who repents and truns back to God for forgiveness who truly believes what he says he believes. Repentence is a turning away from wrong behavior. It is hard in a fallen world but as the bible says. To the unbelieving the cross of christ is foolishness but to the believing it is power unto eternal life. if you say you are an evolutionist but say you believe the earth is 6,000 years old, i would call you what you call yourself, then i would point out that what you say you are and what you believe is not compatable. The problem is many people of all religions say they are this or that and believe differently or they pick and chose what they want to believe in their religion. This earth is a sinful place, and everyone, even christians, sin everyday. The question isn't what is a definition, but what is in the heart of a man, and only God searches the heart of a man. The man's actions show what is in his heart, he can only pretend for so long.

But the christians were also taught to turn the other cheek not to carpet bomb.

The christian faith says help the poor not funnel the middle class's money to the rich.

The bible says you are to tend the earth and keep it not to drill baby drill it and pour mercury in its waters.

Why would a religion based on love have so many red - faced shouting gun waiving angry people who want to kill you for having a different opinion?

Byl- better get yourself some professional help. You need it.

ok neversurrender soo.... christians aren't taught to turn the other cheek? help the poor? tend the earth? please clue me in never seeing you know the one true faith. Please, help me to see the light.

I think you need some spiritual help neversurrender. I'll pray for your soul

lol,,,this reply is so typical of illiterate Obama haters. lol,,,tollerant? lol,,omg,,,and 50 other, illiterates, agree. chuckles.

You people don't even know how to spell, just hate. And,,the difference between you and Muslims again is??? Oh right,,none. lol

You are so wrong! Some of the muslims might be as you said but all religions have fanatics(I'm sure you are one of them) I have many muslim friends here in NJ and they are very modern and tolerant. I think as america we should educate ourselves first and learn about the world more.

You literally can't even spell tolerant.

If you can't spell you shouldn't be on here. And not only are they illiterate, they are lazy too. You're on a computer and if you don't know how to spell a certain word, one can readily call up a dictionary. You do know what a dictionary is, don't you?

At least in a Muslim church kids are safe...

I don't know. Some of those vests they wear.......

My point is that Obama continually implores Americans to be tollerant of Muslims. But neither you nor I (nor anyone) has ever heard him implore Muslims to be tollerant of those who are not Muslims (the infidels).

Why do you suppose that is?

Maybe it is because he is not President of and Arab. As President of the United States, his job is to uphold the Constitution, Part of the Constitution is Freedom of Religion. So yes, he has to tell us to be tolerant and he can not stop them from building a Mosque 2 blocks from ground zero.

What he is doing overseas is trying to repair the damage to our relationships with them done by other Presidents.

IMHO he is the best President ever and we should be glad we have him.

I'm glad we have him, I'm glad we had bush and Clinton, its We the people not we the people who think like MEEEE.

The reason why hes asking American's to be tolerant of Muslims is because we see a desperate act perpetrated by a despicable, radical arm of a religion and we all start blaming that religion. We have done things to Muslims that we woudn't put up with people doing to Christians. Thats when its time to stop, take a deep breath, take a step back.

Lets take it down a notch lol

There are,of course, the two bibles, the one for the true Believing Christians and the fake one that talks about peace, love and understanding, and forgiveness, you know all that nonsense. The true Bible has Jesus saying 'Verily I say unto you that ye believe not in evolution and not tolerate anyone who does believe. Nor shall ye vote for anyone but the most right wing of American Republicans. Ye hath not yet the knowledge of America, or Republicans but Believe me, they are right one. And verily, hate the gay, homosexual as My Father in Heaven Hates them and despises them. And ye shall make war upon anyone who has brown skin and talks funny, for the Lord Thy God, is all for White Christian Americans and Capitalism, and verily woe unto him who doesn't want to cut taxes for the rich.' This is all from the secret scrolls, of course.

@Uncle Shags

First, my "if" question was meant to demonstrate a conflict between doctrine and belief. A rational person would have discerned this and responded in a more intellectual manner.

Second, excuse my generalization of the word "Catholic." What I meant to say was I don't believe the practices of the Catholic religion are Christian.

The following are just a couple of reasons:

Matthew 23:9 - And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is no other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

@Aggie 345886

About the Catholic hating thing, please review my post to Uncle Shags.

who wants to go back to medieval times to make his case.

I'm not sure what your meaning is exactly. Are you saying that I should go back to medieval times to what? The inqusition?

Do you even KNOW the definition of the word Christian?

The adjective: of, pertaining to, believing in, or belonging to the religion based on the teachings of Jesus Christ

The Noun: a person who believes in Jesus Christ; adherent of Christianity. a person who exemplifies in his or her life the teachings of Christ

Your definition of Christian is correct. Looks like you looked it up. That is what the Catholic Religion believes and is based on. You are incorrect where you said that the Catholic Church is not Christian. The Catholic Church is, most definitely, Christian. If you expect every Catholic to be perfect, sorry, we're imperfect human beings. Most of us do try though. Show me any large community without some bad apples. churches, businesses, factories, schools, profession, leaders of countries....they're everywhere.

My reference to medieval times was in reply to what you seemed to be referring to the crusades of medieval times. That's like blaming this generation of Japanese for bombing Pearl Harbor.

Petunia-1740566 #2.26

If you can't spell you shouldn't be on here. And not only are they illiterate, they are lazy too. You're on a computer and if you don't know how to spell a certain word, one can readily call up a dictionary. You do know what a dictionary is, don't you?

Who the hell made you Queen of the Newsvine Spelling Nazi? Better to be a poor speller who's comments that contribute to the seed topic then the self-righteous, myoptic, TROLL you have clearly shown yourself to be. Your violations of the CoH is noted and reported.

@Aggie 345886

The fear with following an institutionalized religious system would be to lose focus on the teachings of Jesus Christ and the inspired word of God.

Matthew 15: 9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

For this reason I search daily the understanding of scripture - not trusting in any man.

Psalms 118:8 It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man.

And an establishment that caters to the leaders of this world is rightly reproved by the word of God.

2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

excuse my generalization of the word "Catholic." What I meant to say was I don't believe the practices of the Catholic religion are Christian.

Now I think I have heard just about everything, Catholicism was the Christian religion born out of Judaism. All the rest of the Christian denominations were born out of Catholicism and each other.

2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

Interesting scripture to use against Muslems. It is exactly what they use against us; the infidels.

Matthew 15: 9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

So, do you not understand this scripture? It appears not, God is saying that the people worship Him in vain for they are following the teachings of man, the Pharisees, the teachers of the Law, and today the Priests, the Pastors, the Reverends, the Preachers, etc.

This is the only scripture that you posted that is true and of God

Psalms 118:8 It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man.

Only thing I can add to that is that the priests, preachers, pastors, reverends are called to and charged to teach The Word of God. To perfection? No, not always. There's that imperfect human thing getting in the way sometimes.

Any religion that exists for the Honor and Glory of God, I would not call names or slam. NO ONE, alive, has all the answers.

Good Post huskergal...

Last night on the news, they were discussing the new body scanners being used at airports....which basically peek at you right down to your pubic hairs....or, a passenger can opt for a full body pat down...which was demonstrated...and it truly is a paaaaatttt dowwwwnnn.

And then I thought back a couple of weeks...to when Juan Williams was fired from NPR for saying he "gets nervous" in airports when seeing passengers in Muslim garb.

But no.....nobody is supposed to admit to feeling the same way as Mr. Williams in airports...much too politically insensitive.

I guess the folks running the airports are acting a bit too insensitively too !!!

@huskergal

Actually, it would appear that you have no understanding of both history or the meaning of scripture.

@Aggi 345886

So, do you think god is happy with the practices that the Catholic church performs? Have you been reading the news?

What is this Co-Redemtrix thing? Isn't Jesus Christ the only way?

Byl, for the record, when you pray for neversurrender's soul, you will be praying to whom exactly?

believer in Christ: Amen. It's a shame there are many here who do not know Jesus Christ as their savior. I pray for their souls, and that they do, someday before it is too late, accept the saving grace of the one and only Savior.

Non-believers: Yes, it's difficult for you to understand, and easy to scoff. As believer states, while we are Christians, we are sinners, and all too often follow our sinful nature. That doesn't mean God is bad, or hateful, or cruel, or non-caring. God allows us "freewill" to make choices. We were once a proud, God-fearing nation. We were founded as such. As we continue to make choices that stray from God, we will continue to see a deterioration in our society and way of life, both at home, and abroad. Maybe it's time we got back to our roots.

Now fire away, but it will not change this very simple fact of life.

@huskergal

Actually, it would appear that you have no understanding of both history or the meaning of scripture.

Whatever makes you happy, you may say and believe. It is no skin off my nose for you are entitled to your opinions. :)

smblow...That wasn't the entire Catholic Church, and you know it. Like I said, bad apples in every organization. Teachers, ministers, camp counsellors, all walks are guilty of the same things. So now do you demonize ALL teachers, ALL coaches, ALL denominations, etc.? The priests who did those things have been defrocked, arrested, imprisoned, and the ones who covered things up have also been dealt with in various ways. I was just waiting for you to bring that up. What took you so long? That dead horse has been beaten to a pulp.

Lonestar...good post.

It's a shame there are many here who do not know Jesus Christ as their savior. I pray for their souls, and that they do, someday before it is too late, accept the saving grace of the one and only Savior.

Yes, and that is God Almighty. He is the last one to make the call as to life and death.

Yes, God will make the final call, but the point is that WE as humans (all of us), have the opportunity to affect the end result. NOT by simply being GOOD people, which of course we should strive to be. You cannot make it to Heaven by donating to your favorite charity (though you should), by being in church every Sunday (which you should), and so on. ONLY by professing your faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. There is no amount of "good works" in and of themselves that will get you to Heaven. Many people are confused about "religion" in general. It's not all the same, New Testament in the Holy Bible teaches the only way. Again, I pray for those who are lost, that they accept the calling, and do not spend an eternity in hell. This concept will be a joke for many now. It will not be later.

huskergal, re: Interesting scripture to use against Muslems. It is exactly what they use against us; the infidels.

The major point everyone continues to try to make is the difference in what the Holy Bible (and specifically the New Testment) have to say about how to handle "infidels", versus the quran. The Holy Bible does not advocate killing those you cannot convert.

ONLY by professing your faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

Sorry not my belief and since there is freedom of religion in this country, would appreciate it if Christians would not try to ram their beliefs down my throats. I believe Jesus is a teacher and I follow his teachings, but it is God Almighty who makes the final decision as to where any one of us goes.

Also the Quran does not advocate killing infidels either.Why don't you read the book yourself and find out what it says before you spout of lies that you have been told and believe.

I have been studying the Bible for over 25 years and I have a good handle on what it says. Without the OT there is no need for the NT.

huskergal: you don't get to choose and pick which part of the Holy Bible you want to follow, and dismiss the rest. It all ties together. The OT leads you right to the truth, which is Jesus Christ, which is GOD in the flesh.

This isn't trying to "ram" anything down your throat, just stating it like it is. I truly pray you come to acceptance.

I have never read of a President stating such a weak stance on the US views before...that is the difference Ron. I understand that our President has a fundamentally different view of how our country should be run and please hold the "look how Bush ran it for 8 years". This is where our President differs, he asks Christians to be tolerant of Muslims but generally asks that all should be tolerant of each other. I guess when one group might blow you up you attempt to be the diplomat to them by not calling them out vs. the nice guy by telling them to shut up and be nice.

I am so sick of Barry and his apologetic attitude on foreign policy. The only foreign policy this guy had was that he went to visit troops while running for President and tried to be like John F. Kennedy and make a speech in Germany. The independents voted this President in and will not be fooled again...he has two years forthwith of vetoes that will proof he only cares about his agenda...not what the people truly want.

I would prefer to have a President that wasn't such a wuss and made the U.S. to look the same.

just Nobama's way of bringing down the American values.

We don't need Obama to bring down our values. We do a great job of it ourselves.

His blackness is such a small percentage of his lineage that he doesn't even qualify for the minority status that has been bestowed upon him. Who's the racist?

Could we be lucky enough to dream that as he is returning to his childhood country that he would remember how great it was and stay there???

Who is this grunt, and where does he come from? Commie Reagan? You have got to be totally ludicrous to even suggest such a thing. This is the man who caused the wall in Berlin to come down and announced the end of the Communist rule of Russia and the former Soviet States. We also, at least the opposition, do not see Obama as black either. His mother was of European heritage and therefore had quite light skin. To me this makes Obama an American. A political travesty but still American.

Grunt, why don't you just take some stool softener and get it over with? I do not think we should be forced to suffer along side you.

Almost every President has had his overseas crisis of some sort. Clinton had Bosnia, Serbia. Mogadishu. Bush Sr. had Kuwait. Bush Jr. had 9/11. BO has inherited Iraq and Afghanistan. Iran is rumbling. N. Korea is rumbling. I agree with most. We're stretched far too thin for a major engagement somewhere else. We may have a "can't defend" scenario? OR the draft is coming back?

Beware. The leftist and Muslim "collapsing" coalition is out in droves this morning. But they will never collapse the truth.

Before you collapse this, Obama's Cairo speech was a monumental failure. He still pretends not to know that Muslim hatred is mostly aimed at the entire West, not just the US, and at all faiths that are not Muslim. Collapse this. You will never collapse the truth. This is not a revived Iron Curtain country, as you would like it to be, nor is it yet a Muslim-controlled country.

Times are different today.

• No jobs because they have been outsourced overseas.
• The current economy is in a Depression even though nobody will admit it.
• The USA is being invaded by terrorists on a daily basis and I am not talking about illegal immigrants.
• There is a war going on along the border of USA and Mexico but when the states try to handle it themselves, the federal government is preventing that from happening.
• Enemies of the USA no longer have fear of reprecussions and have moved forward with developing nuclear weapons.
• China is winning a war with the USA without firing a single shot.

These are my opinions as an individual. I do not belong to any political part so saying I am a Democrat, Republican, Tea Bagger, etc. is only a knee jerk reaction from opening your own eyes and seeing the truth.

I would like to know why president Obama wants to lecture about Muslims in India ignoring their history, telling that it is a peaceful religion.

"Policy of Muslim rulers in India - The general policy of most of the rulers during the 700 years of Muslim occupation of India was to systematically replace the fabric of Hindu society and culture with a Muslim culture. They tried to destroy Indian religions language, places of knowledge (universities e.g Nalanda were totally destroyed by Muslims). They destroyed and desecrated places of thousands of temples including Somnath, Mathura, Benaras, Ayodhaya, Kannauj, Thaneswar and in other places. There was wholesale slaughter of the monks and priests and innocent Hindus with the aim to wipe out the intellectual bedrock of the people they overran.

The Muslims could not subjugate India with ease and were never able to rule it entirely. There was a valiant and ceaseless struggle for independence by Hindus to deliver India from Muslim tyranny. The Rajputs, Jats, Marathas and Sikhs led this struggle in North India. In the South this struggle was embodied in the Vijayanagar Empire. This struggle culminated when the Marathas ended the Muslim domination of India."

BBloomer his mother was light skin because she was whte.

Ron,

Its because we've never had a president that has gone all over the world bowing to our enemies and telling them how arrogant and weak the United States is.

Reading these comments makes me realize why our unemployment rate is stuck at 9.6%. We're a nation of fools, and most people here are too stupid to compete in a global economy. This is a first hand look at the effects of cuts in education.

We're conservative in terms of intelligence!

Ryan, I am currently sitting in my office, playing, while my staff efficiently runs my buisness for me. What is it that you are trying to say?

One small employer on CNBC, a 5 million dollar company, said that most high school grads they interview have trouble with basic math and spelling. When he hires the better ones on Fri, they don't show up on Mon. Is that a national problem? We're a computer/calculator based society. No one does long hand anymore. Honestly, how many folks reconcile their checkbook? I've seen checkbooks where just the check amounts were entered---no balances---nothing. Folks get the statement, it shows a balance, yeah--I have money there?

Wow many hateful people and NBC playing into the hate and racism. It sounds like many on this blog are still ticked that there is a black man representing the good old USA. If any of you would open a political science book, the first thing you would read about is foreign policy. As for muslims being evil people, how many catholic priests have taken advantage of children or how many southern baptist are homophobes because they are gay...Really look in the mirror before you condemn MY PRESIDENT.

The right-wing hatred that spews forth in these comments is incredible. Unless and until we begin to underatand that we're all in this life together and that we must begin to work together, i.e., to find compromises, we are doomed as a nation to become a third world country.

Ryan, the reason why the US cannot compete with global economy (India, China, etc.) is because of minimum wage.

Before you tell me I am wrong, try working for $1.00 a month.

We all respect our president because he is our president. I do not dislike him because he is black. I do not dislike him because of his religious beliefs, I do not dislike him because of his choice in women. I dislike him because his skill set ranks mid-level civil servant on his best day and he is currently in way over his head. Unfortunately, we are in the same ocean with him watching the Tsunami approach.

If we don't like him because he's black, that's our business.

Get over yourself.

DjD did you back Bush, I'm going to go out on a limb and say no, does this make you a racist?

Ryan, you must be a liberal. If anyone disagrees with you it is because they are intellectually inferior to you. I don't know what numbers you are looking at, but the ones that I have seen do not show a cut in education spending. As a matter of fact I see that we have increased spending on education.

We are not a nation of fools. We have become a nation of underachievers!

DJD shut up about people hating 'your President' because he is 1/2 black, moron. Did the American people vote this idiot to office w/ one of the highest percentages ever? Why yes, yes they did. Do most of them regret it now? Uh, yeah. His skin color stayed the same. He just sucks, and let alot of people down who actually thought his "change" would be good. Get over yourself you ignorant prick. Our president sucks, face it!

"repair relations"? Obama thinks Islamic relations are broken when we're hiring people of Islamic faith every day from other countries to fill low paying tech jobs in our borders?

Someone needs to tell Obama there's a difference between an Islam and an Islam extremist. He just stood on the world stage and told everyone we have a problem with them and it's up to him to fix it. Guess wha'ts going to be on the mind of Islamic followers who have never been over here to see for themselves now?

It's important because Obama is promoting his next movie being sold at the American Film Market. Here is a link from imdb.com:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1686786/

A part of a presidents job is to make relations with foreign countries, no matter what. Obama is doing his job and he is doing it as best as he can considering the problems he has inherited from previous administration. This has nothing to do with his race, religion but more to do with our President who is representing us.

As for the racist people here, these ppl need to know that in the near future, there will be one race called the Human Race. Look now at how all the races are mixed at a fast growing number. Purity of race will be gone. Its probably God's way of telling us that we are too stupid to realise we all came from the same origin and He is bringing us back to that.

everyone

why is a relationship with Indonesia important? When movie rights are sold around the world, the cost to the French is $1 million and the cost to the Indonesians is $10,000.

What exactly is Obama doing in Indonesia (where he grew up)?

I'm so glad to see Obama is able to find time in his busy schedule to visit where he was born.

I'm not prejudicial, No Party Affiliations either

IT IS NOT RACE. These wars are religion based. This new hate is towards religions, not to skin color: black, white ,brown, purple, green whatever! Get with the present. You totally contradict yourself talking about racisim, then saying how much the races are mixing and soon we will be one race. What? Their will still be Christians, Muslims, Jews and what not.

Anton, at least you are willing to admit it, kodo's for you. You walk without your hood. But you have many friends that still hide behind the hoods

Maybe there will be one race, but there will still multiple religions. Unless Muslim jihadists get their way and only the Muslim religion will exist officially.

So if he doesn't go he's not doing his job, if he does he's wasting tax payers money. Sounds like you have it all set up for him to lose no matter what.

I guess Beck or rush must have had a special hissy fit for all the GOPTP whinners to be out in force today!

To all the libs on here pulling the racist card

You are way over using that term. The next generation will not understand what that means. They will think a racist is a person who does not agree with someones politics.

do your job in a way that it benefits, not harm, the citizen of the United States.

This is one President that does everything to benefit the United States and not to line his pockets ir those of his cronies.

If Bush would have reached out istead of manufacturing reasons to go to war, we would be in a much different place right now. For one thing, we wouldn't have the expense of an unnecessary war - Iraq!

lisa-2246609 #3.24

BBoomer you are a liar. You see him as black and all of you are racist. Why is it you criticize everything he does. You will never agree with anything he says because it comes out of a black mans mouth. You feel that he is beneath you and can not lead you because he is black.

You are all a bunch of racist

Lisa - Project much? The racist you see is the one looking back at you in the bathroom mirror every day! When your own racial prejudices are undercontrol THEN you can accuse others of being racists. You need to get a new card, the one you are playing is worn out and no longer valid.

Rick-95864, just let me say:

The LEFT-wing hatred that spews forth in these comments is incredible. Unless and until we begin to underatand that we're all in this life together and that we must begin to work together, i.e., to find compromises, we are doomed as a nation to become a third world country.

"@anton b

If we don't like him because he's black, that's our business.

Get over yourself."

What a sad, sad person (I hesitate to use the word man) you are.....and how ironic you felt to use the phrase, "get over yourself." I sure hope you don't call yourself a Christian

BBoomer you are a liar. You see him as black and all of you are racist. Why is it you criticize everything he does. You will never agree with anything he says because it comes out of a black mans mouth. You feel that he is beneath you and can not lead you because he is black.

You are all a bunch of racist

Lisa - Project much? The racist you see is the one looking back at you in the bathroom mirror every day! When your own racial prejudices are undercontrol THEN you can accuse others of being racists. You need to get a new card, the one you are playing is worn out and no longer valid.

This reply is so well said, I had to repost it.

And to the person saying that young people will use the term "racist" to describe "different points of view" - fyi - THEY ALREADY DO. It's exhibited on Newsvine almost every day.

I'm so glad to see Obama is able to find time in his busy schedule to visit where he was born.

I'm not prejudicial, No Party Affiliations either

I don't agree to pay for this trip if it does not benefit AMERICANS.

When I visit my family on the other side of the country, I PAY FOR IT.

Why should Obama, who makes more money than me, get a free trip on our dime?

It's not like we have tons of cash to spare and it's not like anything or anyone in Indonesia can help Americans. WE GIVE THEM MONEY.

Obama should dial back the religious rhetoric a bit. Our war on terror isn't a war on Muslims as a faith, but on the men that would abuse that faith in the name of hatred. The more he reaches out in the name of religion, the more it looks as if we are at war with Muslims. Now if the article read, "Obama reaches out to Indonesians" that would have been much better. After all there are non Muslim people there as well. They may be Muslim extremists that attack our nation but it does not mean all Muslims support their actions.

Courts Muslims.....hmmmm no surprise there. And people say he is not part muslim. Open your eyes people.

For you people who are still living in the past Bush is gone. He is gone. That means he is no longer the President. If you looked on the last presidential nomination ballot his name was not on the ballot. And something else. Every President has different decisions to make. Some are hard ones. So one could say that President Obama is doing just as"crappy" as president Bush did. So if we are going to pick on Bush lets pick on Obama too. Although I would say that Bush did a better job overall.

how come all of the kool aid drinkers forgot about skype or other means of teleconferencing? I mean, wouldn't that seem prudent during such bad economic times for our country? I'm a Libertarian, I would have a problem with anyone, not just a liberal who wrecklessly spends. Our government is just as much a terrorist as a Muslim misusing religious ideology, as what we do is kill in the name of a Christian god. 2010 and we're still as retarded as the primitives that used to talk like chimps to each other in the stone ages. Except, they didn't fight over fairytales like religion

Karen, if you're worried about money, maybe you should stop smoking so much pot

gee, what happens when the MUSLIM TERRORISTS decide to attack while he is visiting?

fedup...obama will apologize and bow his way out of it somehow. The terrorists won't attack him because he is friendly and loves him some muslim peeps. What an embarrassment he is.

'Building bridges': Obama courts Muslims

Don't they mean:

"Burning bridges: Obama ignores and embarrasses Americans"

pjams09 good comment. Vote up from me

Talk about sheep. The rich conservatives just love all of the ignorant but poor conservative followers....more money in their pockets.

I'm not a fan of this president... but i'm a firm believer in the following:

The government's responsibility should be in...

1. Building and maintaining infrastructure (roads, power lines, com lines, bridges)
2. Education
3. Politically representing us to the world. <<<<<<<<<
4. Protecting us from foreign threats
5. Laying out the law and enforcing it
6. Laying out and ENFORCING trade and immigration policies

These are very basic aspects to governance... and political representation is what we hired Obama to do. Now, I dislike how he represents us... but I certainly he is in the right to be spending the time in foreign politics.

whut the...

muslims dont accept apologies...you either convert....or DIE!

Fedup. Your right. I was being a little bit of a smarty. He is already converted!

Unfortunately!

Karen in L.A. - You are incredibly stupid. Pay for the trip himself? Really? You're an excellent argument for better education in America.

To visit where he was born? Really? The looney tunes conspiracy theorists think he was born in Kenya - hello.

Quick, without "Googling it" where was McCain born? Yep, a foreign country. Where in the U.S. Constitution does it say that McCain could have been president? It doesn't - it is a rule of law.

I'm sure everybody that is still convinced that Obama was born in Kenya has no problem that McCain was born in Panama - but he's white and looks like most Americans. Go figure . . .

P. Heckler, wasnt McCain's dad in the Navy serving at a U.S. naval base in Panama canal? hmmm....Doing research might not be your strong point

Noparty affiliations

what_the_81 #3.58

There you go again! Confusing Heckler with the verifable facts. Heckler can't handle the truth. Shame on you! ;-)

Yes, MCCain was born in Panama. We lived there the last 4 years prior to the complete turn over date. Until Jimmy Carter gave "the Zone" back to Panama. Before then the Zone was considered US territory. There were Army, Navy, Marine and Air Force Bases in the Zone. People born in the military hospitals on US military installation to US citizens are by all rights, definition and laws an American citizen.

American Dreams, thanks I know that. I was hoping P. Heckler would rationalize that by himself but I don't think he's capable of even doing that.

JJPP

Take a look at the Liberal Elite. They think all applies to everyone but them. A huge example is all the environmental and global warming talk. People like Al Gore, Michael Moore and the rest crying for everyone to save the environment yet they fly around in private jets, live in huge homes that burn plenty of electricity. Yet everyone else is supposed to conserve or pay into their carbon credit scheme. Or how about the Kerry's and the Kennedy's that fought the Wind Farm off Nantucket (NIMBY's)

FedupwithFed. #3.55

We've butted heads a time or two on other posts but I must agree with you 100% this time.

See...miracles DO happen! Now how can we mend other fences?

Jihad,

"Muslims use the word in a religious context to refer to three types of struggles: an internal struggle to maintain faith, the struggle to improve the Muslim society, or the struggle in a holy war."

They might want to consider different names for the other two and not try to rationalize or obfuscate by using it in those contexts.

"Abdul meant that he was on a Jihad to maintain his faith and improve Muslim society it was coincidental that the bombs he had strapped to himself went off in the crowded market."

Our idiot President thinks he's smarter than he actually is.

Karen, if you're worried about money, maybe you should stop smoking so much pot

You are NOT clever in the least. I am complaining about the President WASTING AMERICAN TAX MONEY TO VISIT INDONESIA.

Since you are so smart, why don't you explain why this visit BENEFITS AMERICANS?

So far, I have not seen one answer to this simple question.

To the people who call me stupid, do YOU have an answer as to how a trip to INDONESIA will benefit AMERICANS?

Please also explain why American tax money should fund a trip to Indonesia?

Since you are so smart, please provide us with an answer to this burning question. WHY DO WE SPEND AMERICAN TAX MONEY TO VISIT INDONESIA?

What the 81 - Read my remark again. Yes, or course, I know about his father and grandfather and many, many others born to Americans abroad. But the U.S. Constitution has nothing in it covering Americans born abroad. It says only "natural born citizens" may be president. My comment was a jab at all the people that find fault with Obama's mis-stated birth place and the undisputed fact that McCain was not a "natural born citizen", and the obvious double standard. The U.S. Constitution is NOT the authority for establishing citizenship - it is the rule of law implemented later. Go do your homework before you respond.

Karen in LA

"To the people who call me stupid, do YOU have an answer as to how a trip to INDONESIA will benefit AMERICANS?"

It doesn't. It benefits the Obamas. It's like a family who's had a Ford Fairlane station wagon all their lives suddenly finds themselves in posession of the keys to a limo. He knows he's a lame duck and is going to get every spiff he can before he gets the boot. He's going to live large, as they say, until then.

P. Heckler, a U.S. naval base is considered U.S. territory thus making him a natural born citizen. I have no idea where you are going bringing McCain up. Remeber, drugs and blogging don't go together and make for unintelligle and pointless blogs.

Oh yeah, No Party Affiliations

Big B-1989609

Ryan, you must be a liberal. If anyone disagrees with you it is because they are intellectually inferior to you. I don't know what numbers you are looking at, but the ones that I have seen do not show a cut in education spending. As a matter of fact I see that we have increased spending on education.

We are not a nation of fools. We have become a nation of underachievers!

#3.27 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 10:52 AM EST

What numbers are you looking at, around here funding is being cut, teachers are being laid off and schools are closing.

So tell me Where are the school funing being increased, I need to sell my house take the kids out of school and move there so that they can get an education..

Karen in LA

Just remember, they are calling you stupid. So by their standards, they are extreme racists.

Lisa #3.60

lisa-2246609 #3.60

American Dreamer - Keep dreaming, the Black American youth know full well what racism is, they still live with it, have you not read the news lately. Just because we wish it gone does not mean that it is gone.

Minorities face higher interest rates, and get skipped over for promotions and jobs. When that changes you can talk to me about getting a new card, but if you have not lived it, please do not speak on it, that just shows your ignorance.

Lisa - It is no wonder black youth know first hand about racism now days. They practice it every day against themselves as well as non-blacks. Blacks are now some of the most racist groups of people we have in America today. Blacks judge other blacks by the shade of their skin tones, their dubs, their grills , if they got the good hair or nappy hair, if they got a high dollar weave or if their booty is ample and not flat like a white woman. They accuse other blacks of selling out their people, call them Uncle Toms and worse if they speak normal English and do well in school. If they don't or won't hang out with "da boyz" they are "uppity" and "acting white."

Young black men are more likely to kill other young black men. And often it's for no reason - for no reason. Bobby Tillman mean anything to you? He was beaten to death in an unprovoked attack for the crime of walking past a house party. This is not the first time in recent years that a gang of young black men have jumped and beaten to death a single person. The gangsta Rappers promote racism, hatred, sexism, drugs, violence because they is "just keepin it real". BS. Many young black men lap up this rap crap like manna from heaven. Smart, young blak women buy into this crap as well and settle for far less then they should. The birth rate of single black women is at a new all time high...who's fault is that? Welfare kids having welfare kids.

Opportunites are available to blacks that were not even conceivable 60 years ago. Yet there is a black "welfare sub-culture" that feels the world owes them becasue they were born black. They walk around with their butts hanging out, morals of an alley cat, unethical as the day is long, sulky, reeking of bad attitude and thuggery. What reasonable business want to hire someone like that? They wear the legacy of slavery like a thorny crown and use racism as their excuse why they can't get a break, why they sell drugs, why they get jailed more, etc. Katrina 9th Ward is a prime example if it but it is found in any large city. BS of the highest degree.

More and more blacks are successful, well educated, own nice homes and have their own business. They got what they have by hard work just like everyone else of another race. Nothing was handed to them. They hold their childern to a higher level of expectation.

You don't know me , you don't own me. You don't know what I have lived through, what I have had to put up with or what I have seen. The one showing ingnorance is you.

I don't think it is "Racist" to call out a President, who has been courting the Muslim community since taking office. The Obama Administration is currently funding 10+ Million Dollars in Kenya, for legislation changes allowing Muslim women to seek abortions (last time I checked, there were Constitutional Laws regarding directly influencing and interfering in another country's laws, by ANY Presidential Administraton). President Obama in June 2009, spoke to University Students in Cairo, Egypt, apologizing for America, quoting from the Koran and reminiscing fondly of his Muslim roots, while living in Indonesia. Correct me if I am wrong, but, "Good or Bad" any President, past, present or future, that is embarrassed of America and feels the need to apologize for our nation isn't a leader this country needs. America might have made mistakes and have faults, but what country hasn't, it is still the "best game in town"; and the "Beacon of Freedom" immigrants from around the world try to get to.

What really bothers me the most about President Obama is his double standard of faith. He calls himself a "Christian"; yet, does anyone know what "Christian" church he attends regularly in Washington, DC? I can't remember one President in the past, Democrat or Republican, when the Press wasn't constantly reporting on their comings and goings from Sunday Services. For the last two years, the President and his family have been surrounded by a wall of media silence regarding actually attending ANY "Christian" Faith.

Plus, prior to Barack Obama's presidency, he and his family attended one of the most "Anti-White", "Muslim Influenced" "Christian Church" in Chicago, for over 20 years. You may blame the doctrine taught on "Reverend Wright". However, that doesn't diminish the fact, that Barack Obama and his family fundamentally agreed with the Church Doctrine to remain active members for over 20 years.

Barack Obama's father was Muslim, Barack was raised under Muslim doctrine under his father's care. Barack Obama's stepfather was Muslim, he attended a private Catholic School in Indonesia, and his religion was listed as Muslim. He attended Muslim classes regularly, he attended Muslim Mosques, he studied the Quran. This was Barack Obama's upbringing until the age of 12 years old, and his grandparents began raising him. Such a strong Fundamental Muslim Faith Foundation has been laid. However, the real interesting point here, is even under his grandparents care in Hawaii, he didn't become a "Christian" until in his early 20's; and the interest in Politics began.

Muslim or Christian, I really couldn't care less about President Obama's choice of faith. What I take exception to; is the fact, he has denied his religious foundation and obvious faith of choice; while professing to be associated with another.

Bottom line, if President Obama will be so deceptive about something as personal as faith; what other things are the American People being deceived on?

American Dreams

Great post. I give great credit to those who have worked hard to get somewhere as you mentioned. They realize that they can get somewhere and color doesn't have to be a factor.

Sven

Thanks for the answer. I could not figure out WHY our President would be in Indonesia. I love Sumatra coffee but I can buy it at Starbucks. I don't need to travel to Indonesia to buy it.

Kevin

Touche! You made me laugh! Thanks.

American Dreams

YOUR POST IS THE BOMB (in CA, that means terrifically great!). I know who Tillman is and I just shake my head. What a freaking loss.

Obama doesn't have a reason to be over there, he just doesn't care about this country, his loyalty lies with Muslims. he's a pole smoker. he spends recklessly like Bush did. They are all in on the game call, "FVCK the American People, let's rape and pillage the country while we're in power."

But you shouldn't whine about money when you're trying to justify your ignorance on a Pot thread making irresponsible claims of ignorance about drugs, drug addiction, and recovery. You aren't qualified to know much because you are an addict, not in recovery, so please flap your lips to stuff like this, not stuff than can affect an addict in a life or death way from reading your nonsense. Thank you and have a nice day

Bottom line, if President Obama will be so deceptive about something as personal as faith; what other things are the American People being deceived on?

Completely agree ThereseNV. I've said that since Obama's campaign. He exhibited this trait during the campaign and people still voted for him.

Randy

If you want to speak out about pot, go to another thread. This thread is about Obama courting Muslims.

Do you have anything to add on that topic?

Since when did calling another poster a racist violate the Newsvine code of honor? Every time there's an article about the tea party, a huge number of the comments posted call the tea partiers racists. If we don't agree with the Obama agenda, we're called racist. It's the far left's favorite claim. While I agree that this rhetoric is disgusting, if you actually hold to this, you'll shut Newsvine down completely.

Heckler #3.67

But the U.S. Constitution has nothing in it covering Americans born abroad. It says only "natural born citizens" may be president. My comment was a jab at all the people that find fault with Obama's mis-stated birth place and the undisputed fact that McCain was not a "natural born citizen", and the obvious double standard. The U.S. Constitution is NOT the authority for establishing citizenship - it is the rule of law implemented later. Go do your homework before you respond.

You clearly did not bother to do your own homework before you responded. Did you bother to look up the meaning of "Natural born citizen"? Bet not.

Considering the history of the constitutional qualifications provision, the common use and meaning of the phrase "natural-born subject" in England and in the Colonies in the l700s, the clause's apparent intent, the subsequent action of the first Congress in enacting the naturalization act of 1790 (expressly defining the term "natural born citizen" to include a person born abroad to parents who are United States citizens), as well as subsequent Supreme Court dicta, it appears that the most logical inferences would indicate that the phrase "natural born Citizen" would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship "at birth"or" by birth

Karen,

I have already added much more to the topic in multiple threads than you can comprehend, thanks for the concern though!

Anyone besides me notice this trend? The only people who mention Obama's skin tone are the ones calling the rest of us racist.

Not one of the posters who had commented so far against Obama's actions or lack of actions ever mentions his race in their posts. But the Obama Cult followers are quick to take what was said, twist and turn it. Rather then debate their difference they throw out their old,raggedy, threadbare, worn out, race card! lisa-2246609 / Tina-1473706 / DJD-2561657and the others race-baiters- why is that?

Yes American Dreams, I noticed.

On another seed today, this article was posted, which I post an extract below. Someone who works at Harvard that has a PhD said that sociological and historical factors are RACE. No wonder everyone is confused.

http://world-news.newsvine.com/_news/2010/11/09/5436718-nyt-black-boys-score-far-behind-white-students

“There’s accumulating evidence that there are racial differences in what kids experience before the first day of kindergarten,” said Ronald Ferguson, director of the Achievement Gap Initiative at Harvard. “They have to do with a lot of sociological and historical forces. In order to address those, we have to be able to have conversations that people are unwilling to have.”

Yea...to bad the Christians stopped the Crusades in the 1200's and yet here are the Muslims continually trying to make everyone a Muslim.

His requirement as you so put it is to represent the United States, which is a true (whether you like it or not) a centrist left leaning conservative country. He is supposed to portray a positive by having us as an ally, not a negative. That is the true reason for going overseas. This guy is proving the opposite...if you are weak...go over to other countries so they can feel more important and step all over you. Let me know how that works out for our foreign policy.

Genius

I did not see your last statement...so I will answer it...for one it would be cheaper for the country if they stopped flying everywhere and let our Secretary of State do her job...who would have thought...and yes...at least it would show him as being somewhat normal versus the elitist attitude he puts forth when ever he does go on vacation.

Working full time and going to school full time with a three year old is difficult to say the least and I haven't been able to take a vacation in two years...with the economy still in the slumps and the dollar weakening by the day don't you think it would be a good idea for the President and his wife to stop spending money on themselves (Spain, Martha's Vineyard, Louisiana and more) and just be quiet for a little while?

No. And I suspect you're the only one who hasn't taken a vacation- Myrtle Beach was packed last weekend.

And you are being totally facetious demsrule. At least 9.6% of Americans (and probably much more) cannot take vacations. Even to Myrtle Beach, which is within a day's drive from where I live two states over in Alabama. Shoot, the little park near downtown Phenix City is crowded on the weekends. Just shows how desperate people are to get out of their houses. And Obama is flying family and friends all over East Asia showing off where he lived? Oh, and incidently ruining our reputation even more.

So if 9.6% can't take vacations, that means that 90.4% can. That's kind of a majority, isn't it bloomer? A super-duper majority even. Or am I being "facetious" again?

Working full time and going to school full time with a three year old is difficult to say the least and I haven't been able to take a vacation in two years...

True, that sounds pretty tough. Makes running a country look easy.

My family and I have NEVER been able to take a vacation, and probably never will. But that isn't the POINT to the article. The President went overseas at a TERRIBLE time - THAT is what is chafing to so many people. We JUST had our mid-term elections and The People spoke loud and clear sayng that we want OUR ECONOMY and JOBS to be his focus. To see him cart off in AFO with his reported 3000 person entourage spending MY TAX DOLLARS in a country that took AMERICAN JOBS, is discouraging to say the least. He needs to go into the heart of America and talk to the people there about fixing OUR country and OUR problems - not get involved in yet another never-ending religious disagreement overseas.

Michelle:

How is this trip 'constructive for the people'? Can you explain this to me? Maybe I'm nuts, but spending tens of millions of taxpayer dollars on a trip to his own homeland to foster his continuing love affair with Muslim majority countries that hate the US with a passion, and whose citizens sympathise with terrorism, is not constructive to the American people.'

This is what's called a personal agenda. Which is fine - every president has them, but do it from the White House. Obama just wants his legacy to be known worldwide, because he's starting to realize that Americans aren't so in to his free-spending ways.

No- I don't think EITHER party (or the TP) are going to focus on anything we want. It's disgusting the way our system has degenerated into what it is. It's no longer about helping America, upholding our values, or anything else- it's just a way for "politicians" to get their jollies in front of the camera and having sound bytes. I vote AGAINST someone or something because there is no better option. I have to pick what I believe to be the lesser of the evils presented to me. Until someone gets out there to DO WHAT'S RIGHT regardless of what party is in the White House, things are going to continue along the same path. But as the President ran on "change" and "hope" - I'd really like to see him come BACK to that concept and carry through on it. Stop pushing his own agenda's through, stop listening to ONLY Democrats - try listening to ANYONE with a valid argument or a voice of reason. Go meet with "normal" American's to see what it is that WE need to have happen! What
changes do WE need? what are OUR suggestions?? The life-time politicians are disgusting and have no concept of what The Real World is like.

TalkBluffPrez:

Get over your BS. To say that other religions are just as intolerant as Islam is just absolute phoniness. As a jew, I cant even walk into most of the Arab countries (Saudi Arabi does not allow any jews on its soil, unless you are from the Neturai Karta). WHy would I want to anyways - they'd probably execute me within minutes.

What Christian country doesn't allow other religions in their midst? For example, Israel is probably the most diverse country in the world in terms of religions found. Islamic countries are known to persecute anyone who is not Islamic.

Please stop rambling with your BS. Back it up at least. What countries did you find Christians or Jews to be intolerant? Please, enlighten me. I can mention 20 Islamic countries that you can call 'intolerant' - and thats the nicest thing you can say about them.

N-529260, I'm Jewish and I have been to Saudi Arabia. Several times. You have been enlightened.

N-

I was going to post but I see you have done that for me :)

I would just like to add Muslims severely punish those who covert to any other religion.

TalkBluff if you do not believe me just cruise the web a bit. Might take you all of 30 seconds to find photos of Muslims who have been hanged for that.

No we do not have many things in common. Look at how they treat women and children, especially young girls.( married to an adult male at the age of 6???) Look into sharia law. Then come back and tell me how much they have in common with any religion.

Dems Rule: I find it very interesting you as a Jew have been to Saudi Arabia, several times. When applying for a VISA to travel to Saudi, I was told NOT to go through Israel (which was my original plan) because if there was an Israeli stamp on my passport, I would not be allowed in Saudi. It was stated perhaps I should travel through Israel on my back from Saudi, instead. And having family members who lived in Saudi for many years as independent contractors, I know first hand how INtolerant they are. So enlighten me, please.

@talkbluffprez: "he is the leader of the free world and his getting out.........etc.". Correction; he is the leader of YOUR NATION. Nothing more, nothing less. Only that!

FormerSGT, the following is fact:

During the first centuries of control over Balkans by the Ottoman Empire, the Christian population, and especially the Orthodox Christians (who were not under the protection of a Great Power of that time, as were the Catholics, until the rise of Imperial Russia, faced various degrees of tolerance, both from local Ottoman authorities and from the Sultan.

The Ottoman Empire was, in principle, tolerant towards Christians and Jews, but not polytheists, in accordance with Sharia Law. Forced conversion is counter to Sharia law, and was not a standard practice. Though far short of modern standards, Ottoman tolerance was particularly constructive compared to the contemporary situation in Europe.

Even though tolerant of both Christians and Jew, the empire required these religions to pay a tax and required a representative to be a member of the government as a requirement for practicing their respective religions.

The Empire often served as a refuge for the persecuted and exiled Jews of Europe, as for example following the expulsion of the Jews from Spain in 1492, when Sultan Beyazid II welcomed them into Ottoman lands.

You need to study some history instead of posting falsehoods.

Former SGT- You are probably against DADT, Jews, blacks, gays and anything else that goes against your white christian values...

@DJD- quite a leap on your part. to accuse FormerSGT of racism and bigotry. I have read his comments and find nothing that speaks to your claim.

I do wonder, though, why the accusation of racism comes up so much when posters disagree with or dislike President Obama. I dislike him, and I'm neither white or black. I am Native American. His race has nothing to do with how I feel about him. AT ALL!

having lived all over the world, I have never found Christians to be any more tolerant

You haven't lived all over the world, pal. I have, and what you said there is so patently ridiculous to anyone that lived anywhere near a muslim nation it's pathetic.

You're a nice person and you think that you should make up stories to support what nice people are supposed to think.

former SGT (of what is the question)

but anyway. How and where the Obama's choose to vacation is none of your business. They both went to school, earned degrees and had well paying jobs before the Presidency. How they choose to vacation or spend their private money is none of your business. During the Bush Admin, I was a single mother working 2 jobs, going to school full time (5 years) and I still managed to take my kids to Disney World (and yes it was packed). So they are not the only people going on vacations.

This trip is apart of his presidential requirement. You people are stupid

Former SGT- You are probably against DADT, Jews, blacks, gays and anything else that goes against your white christian values...

Definition of BIGOT

: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

Sounds like you....

Muslims and tolerance yeah give me a break, ask the women in Iran who is about to be executed by stoning,you might also ask the protesters who were imprisoned..

James Herman - You have a view of history that is just false. You are spouting apologist material.

During the first centuries of control over Balkans by the Ottoman Empire, the Christian population, and especially the Orthodox Christians (who were not under the protection of a Great Power of that time, as were the Catholics, until the rise of Imperial Russia, faced various degrees of tolerance, both from local Ottoman authorities and from the Sultan.

You left out the Janizeries Mr. Herman, the vicious secret police of the Ottoman Empire. These were young boys seized from their parents at the age of 6 or less and trained to be fanatic torturers. They would be returned to the place they came from, ready willing and able to publicly boil their parents alive, and did.

When was the last great massacre in Belgrade Mr. Herman? It was in 1906. All males between 15 and 45 were killed because the city had rebelled. They were killed by boiling, impaling, roasting on a spit, flaying alive and other creative methods.

That is what Islam does and did to subjugate its oppressed peoples for over 1000 years.

The Ottoman Empire was, in principle, tolerant towards Christians and Jews, but not polytheists, in accordance with Sharia Law. Forced conversion is counter to Sharia law, and was not a standard practice. Though far short of modern standards, Ottoman tolerance was particularly constructive compared to the contemporary situation in Europe.

Nonsense. Forced conversion was what Mohamed demanded. See Bukhari. After massacring the people of Khaybar for the crime of not accepting him as prophet, Mohamed had the treasurer of the town tortured to death to get more loot. Then he told his men to enjoy themselves by raping the women, married or not, widowed or not. Mohamed later ordered converted tribesmen, multiple times, to invite their neighbors to dinner and if they refused conversion, to slay them all.

Even though tolerant of both Christians and Jew, the empire required these religions to pay a tax and required a representative to be a member of the government as a requirement for practicing their respective religions.

To call them tolerant is an extreme misrepresentation. The Christians of Spain rebelled because they could not convert, and they could not get out from under devastating taxation and oppression that ground them into the dirt. To discuss the jizya tax that way is pretty outrageous. The name literally means, permission to keep your head. Non-muslims pay tax. Muslims do not.

It was late in the empire of the Abbasids and Umayyads that the rate of conquering (and hence rate that new value was brought into the empire) slowed down to near zero. The rulers realized they desperately needed tax revenue. It was for this reason that they violated sharia law and made it illegal for Christians and Jews to convert to Islam without special petition.

The Empire often served as a refuge for the persecuted and exiled Jews of Europe, as for example following the expulsion of the Jews from Spain in 1492, when Sultan Beyazid II welcomed them into Ottoman lands.

The Jews of Spain were put in positions of middle-management power over Christians. This was done to play them off against each other, with the intent to create enmity between them. Thus, the Jews were shaped into a group that helped the oppressors rule. Saddam did something like this with Christians in Iraq. This period was when most of the anti-Semitism that we see today began.

It was Islam that created the anti-Semitism that continues through history and culminated in the 20th century with the Nazi Holocaust. The origin of that is in Spain, where Jews were turned into tools of the oppressor. When tyrants do this, they deflect the hatred of the ruled from themselves onto their tools. It worked. It is still working today.

So it is not remarkable at all that the Ottomans welcomed the Jews. They were just taking in their tools, and a people who paid good tax revenues to the state.

You need to study some history instead of posting falsehoods.

You need to study actual history, not just the apologists for tyranny. What you posted is exactly like a black man posting a defense of Jim Crow and the KKK. Islam is oppression. The word means, "submission".

@ N-529260

Well for one, can anyone from any Arab countries enter IsraHell?

Second, The most intollerant, opressive, genocidal, and terroristic country in the world is IsraHell.

Not a requirement of his office, where do you people live? The moon? Mars? he could have had a teleconference face to face with the technology a HOME USER has access to in 2010, let alone the budget our fascist government has. Times are not good, you would think they would choose the prudent thing, using a computer, save a few billion

Florida Arabs live in Israel, as far as oppression I'm sure you really meant Muslim Countries, that's OK though I forgive you

You left out the Janizeries Mr. Herman, the vicious secret police of the Ottoman Empire. These were young boys seized from their parents at the age of 6 or less and trained to be fanatic torturers. They would be returned to the place they came from, ready willing and able to publicly boil their parents alive, and did.

OMG - this reminds me of the young boys Muslims recruit as suicide bombers.

@ wlee,

Arabs were majority of people until Israhell was created and pushed them to the margins. evem today, if you have a passport of any arab nation, you cannot enter israhell.

and no, i did not mean muslim countries, i ment "jewish state" of israhell.

You misspelled Muslim. So much for your world travel credibility.

Nice try

I think it can be spelled either way provided you have a more worldly perspective.

A Muslim (Arabic: مسلم‎; /ˈmʊslɨm/ MOOS-lim or English pronunciation: /ˈmʌzlɨm/ MUZ-lim) or Moslem^[1] is an adherent of the religion of Islam. Literally, the word means "one who submits (to God)".

http://hnn.us/articles/524.html

Has Gray Alan apologized yet?

Why do you care? He isn't apologising to you, and you can't make him. Its between him and Sunshine.

And me- this being a public board and all. Didn't mean to offend your domestic partner, though.

Gray Alan (#7.1)

Did Obama appoint you to be the seeds offical Spelling Nazi? Where are yur papers young man? Guess you got nothing to worth-while contribute but nit-picking comments.

Far as I am concerned Obama will never back the US and always suck up to the Muslims. He's shown this tendancy time and time again. His mouth saids I'm "Christian" but his heart and actions pure subversive Muslim. He's a "Manchurian" President if there ever could be such a thing.

You might as well give up. these people keep on drinking the koolaid of their respective parties, aren't going to look at truth . They only see and believe what the want, just to feel secure in their decisions, and the way the voted.

Tomvet unfortunately you are correct, like sheep they go to the slaughter.

Tomvet / wlee: At least, regardless of which side that may be, they stand for something. What do you two goobers stand for, besides each other?

Lonestar, so you're saying you advocate ignorance? Are you the poster boy? Sounds like it

Randy, I had to search up the thread to see exactly what it is YOU stand for, where I found this:

how come all of the kool aid drinkers forgot about skype or other means of teleconferencing? I mean, wouldn't that seem prudent during such bad economic times for our country? I'm a Libertarian, I would have a problem with anyone, not just a liberal who wrecklessly spends. Our government is just as much a terrorist as a Muslim misusing religious ideology, as what we do is kill in the name of a Christian god. 2010 and we're still as retarded as the primitives that used to talk like chimps to each other in the stone ages. Except, they didn't fight over fairytales like religion

So if being the "poster boy" for ANYTHING means that disassociates me from someone such as yourself, then YES, I'm fine with that.

Lonestar apparently you can't read TRUTH is what we stand for, but please keep calling people names

Sorry if I offended your delicate sensibilities. My comment was simply in regard to the comment about "their respective parties". I read it as a bash on anyone who is democrat or republican, either way. If that is the case, then I asked what you two stood for. If I misinterpreted, my apologies. If I didn't, then I stand by it. Looking up the thread, I THINK for the most part we standing on the same side of the issue, but I'm not certain. Anyway, have a nice day.

please wlee, no one cares what your version of the TRUTH is, if I wanted to know what you thought I'd turn on fox ~ duh

Lonestar, I'm sorry you can't handle the reality, but that's what life is. Corporations, media, bankers, everything has a "respective party" affiliation. We, the people have been manipulated to think there are only two choices at election. Most of the retards, and yes, they are retards, that voted for Barry O, the Prophet, thought they were voting for the lesser of two evils, not knowing there were 4 other Independent candidates, 2 of which were far better choices than the GOP or Lib candidates. The fact is, if you are allowed to vote, you should take initiative to learn what you are voting for, who the candidates are. But this is a game. After the Liberals destroy the country a little more, people will think, "we have to go to Republicans again" (and it is already happening as of last week), and then the Republicans will take the torch, ruin us, then the libs again. The 3 party candidates can't keep up with big lobby campaign contributions. Those contributions should be made illegal, regulations should be put in place. The corporations OWN the president, the Oligarchs OWN the country by pulling the president's strings, because he is nothing more than a puppet, as the last one was, as the next one WILL be.

CNN and MSNBC = Liberal bought and paid for propaganda. Fox = Conservative Propaganda. And the tards of the country will continue to remain polarized thinking Right is the way, or Left is the way, not seeing how divided we are as a nation, worse than racism, based on lies and deception by the state owned mainstream media.

BYL please tell me what my version of the truth is

Randy-1050992, just so I'm clear, you're advocating that had an Independent candidate been elected president, or to any of the other offices to which they aspired, that the county would now be in better shape (in any aspect)?

And you tell me I'm can't handle reality?

Nice argument, but it's nothing more than a fairy tale. Go ahead, vote independent, it's your right, but in the end that is nothing more than taking the easy way out. Then, later down the road, if something doesn't go quite right for the dem or rep you would have voted for otherwise, you can now throw up your hands and say "wasn't me, I voted Independent".

President Barack Obama said on Tuesday that Washington's effort to reach out to the Muslim world was earnest and would help improve U.S. security.

The Indonesians are already busy arresting people across Papua

I find it amazing that the religion we are asked to be tolerant about answers with threats of violence everytime they are offended.

Abso-freakin-lutely! The muslims could care less about tolerance, unless someone is hurting their poor little feelings. And Mr. President, do not apologize for our American values to these ignorant people, who pick up their hate by lying propoganda. You are making it worse and making yourself look like a pussy. Oh, I love the way our President is frolicking all over Muslim land w/ his shoes off, looking happier than a pig in crap. Is he gonna piss on Veterans Day as he did Memorial Day? He is such a joke, I just can't fathum...

Right snarky; unlike blowing up a building in Oklahoma City, or molesting young boys, burning a church, or threatening to burn the Koran...my point is that violence is not limited to any one religion or group and regardless of who commits the act, they're all wrong. Also, everyone who is of a certain religion, race, creed does not represent the whole...I think we need to keep that in mind...let common sense prevail...PLEASE.

Joplin, the crimes you listed are crimes. Those that commit those crimes get killed by the state or imprisoned, NOT HONORED like a suicide bomber does in the Muslim world.

This statement only proves to me that all religions are all BS, they only caused most of the wars through out history. The christian radicals are as bad as the islamic radicals. Religions are the cause of all the troubles in the world.

Joplin,

unlike blowing up a building in Oklahoma City, or molesting young boys, burning a church,

I was commenting on the article

my point is that violence is not limited to any one religion or group and regardless of who commits the act, they're all wrong

Agreed!

Also, everyone who is of a certain religion, race, creed does not represent the whole

I agree except i cant remember the last time a Muslim was offended and didnt react with threats of violence.
Take a look at this and keep in mind this is on US soil.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLK1Xpc7SMQ

Religions are the cause of all the troubles in the world.

You would have to have some seriously deep seeded bigotry & hatred to actually believe this statement. You're telling me there hasn't been ONE SINGLE disagreement, fight, war, etc that didn't involve religion? I guess the whole world was one big hug fest before religion and there weren't any murders, theft, or anything, huh?

Timothy McVeigh was NOT a Christian, he was Agnostic. Christian radicals and Muslim radicals the same, that's a laugh. I suggest you do a little research before making ridiculous statements.

MOS; my point is again that even though extremists may honor a suicide bomber, all muslims do not, the majority are appalled...there are undoubtedly extreme Christians who look upon Timothy McVeigh as a patriot and a hero, but all Christians do not...the majority are appalled. To the thinking person, religion, race, sex, etc does not matter, it is the content of a person's character. If I'm crossing a street, not paying attention, about to get run over, and a person pulls me out of harm's way, I don't care if he/she's a Muslim, Buddist, Jew, Christian, Caucasian, African-American, Homosexual, Heterosexual, Republican, Democrat, Tea partier, whatever, it's the action of the person that matters, not their "statistics." We really need to stop letting the actions of a few represent how we think about the many.

I stand corrected; McVeigh was raised Roman-Catholic (none practicing) and professed agnoticism. I still say there are people who think of him as a hero and those folks are as wrong as any muslims who think of suicide bombers in the same matter...and neither represents their religion or group as a whole.

Joplin, even if McVeigh was a Cristian he never call the name of Jesus at the time of the massacre unlike Muslims that kill in the name of Ala. Can you tell me what religious group perpetrate more terrorist attacks Muslims, Christians, Indus and Buddhist. Is Muslim the answer?. Obama was ask about Jihad and he did not give an straight answer, is simple , Jihad is warfare to establish the Muslim Religion submited under Sharia Law.

Hey Christians that have been mentally retarded by your arrogance. We absolutely DO reward people for killing in the name of the imaginary friend floating in the sky. We give silver stars, purple hearts, etc. We give college tuition through the GI programs offered. We pay for benefits. Yes, our troops that kill in the name of god by way of the garbage government that misuses our honorable men and women for selfish motives, not for Americans, are rewarded. Sure, they don't get a hundred virgins in "heaven" but at least they get glory! So, try to tell me the difference between their extremism and ours? I don't like that the president says, "god bless america" when declaring war. I have yet to see or talk to god, so I love the cop out excuse that god IS. There is no god, yet, we are led by people who justify their nonsense and wars with a fictitious folk hero called god.

We are no different, our government manipulates us to be against an enemy with propaganda, while they try to keep us afraid to go out of our homes, while they use that pretense to have wars of perpetuity where oil, opium, lithium deposits, and political interests lie with Israel. This isn't about terrorism, the only terrorists are in the White House, past and present administrations, they all are playing the same game, passing the torch to the next puppet when they get voted out or run out of terms.

Randy I guess you forgot about that little incident on 9/11, as far as our troops killing in the name of God, you are apparently forgetting the many Atheist who served our country, maybe you should get out of your house a little bit more. By the way not all Republicans are Christians try educating yourself you sound foolish

I didn't forget about the incident that the CIA and FBI allowed to take place, with the White House and cabinet well aware of the 9/11 attack plan on the WTC as early as 1999. They allowed it to happen to have a reason to launch a war of perpetuity in which they rake in millions and billions on their stock interests from Military Contracts (equipment and such, a great stock considering we'll always be in the military forever, just like south Korea), Opium export from Afghanistan (big pharmaceutical lobbyists make lots of money off of opiates), oil (don't need to say more), and geo-political control to keep Israel happy seeing how they can't take any responsibility for their own actions when they get things stirred up over there.

I never said all republicans are christians, for that you are truly a moron because you don't even read and comprehend properly. You are a moron for thinking I don't respect the men and women of the united states armed forces. You are a moron because you are trying to justify the unjustifiable, making it clear, you are just one more being led to the slaughter, and still believe the lies, 9 years later. The only terrorists are the ones that manipulate our society to following along with their manipulation strategy to keep us believing everyone is out to kill us so they have an excuse to go over seas and pretend they are there for that reason, while exploiting that area for its resources. Why don't you get a little more educated before making a comment. Besides the fact that everything you said was irrelevant, I'd get better feedback talking to a wall.

Whether a troop is an atheist or not, they are killing in the name of god by proxy, because we are a religious country, a Christian country in general. So, they may be killing to keep from being killed, but the presidential address has always ended in "god bless america" when I've watched. Ultimately, they kill in the name of Allah, we kill in the name of God. So, we're not so different from radical Islamic fundamentalists.

Who said you didn't respect our troops, you call me a moron yet compare our troops who you have respect for to Muslim Terrorist, who's the moron, you seem a tad paranoid

I didn't compare any troops to terrorists. I made the metaphor that the real terrorists work out of D.C., using their pawns, as the tools of the terror in which they practice. Our proud men and women didn't sign up to be used for ulterior motives like corporate wars. My friends and family enlisted because they wanted to serve the country, not try taking over the world like Hitler had already tried. Millions of innocent dead Iraqis. I'm thinking 9/11 was a small fart compared to the pile of excrement we took on the middle east against innocent people we had no reason to fight against. The CIA created al Qaida, and destabilizing Iraq, made a power vacuum that will be like Vietnam, at civil war for decades, while also being a cowboy country for terror groups to collaborate in.

He is sure comming back after his victorious vist! He can make calm volcanoes erupt back in America. Mark my word !

I wonder if the volcano is God's way of shutting Obama up?

would it work for you?

volcanoes do erupt here in the states, it's the rectums on people's faces, who drink so much Obama kool aid that they have diarrhea of the mouth!

wow Randy, that's the most intelligent post you've ever made, you should feel so proud. How about loving your country or leaving? Why do you hate America so much Randy?

Who said I hate my country? You are mistaken, patriots love their country, they speak out against tyranny and those kool aid drinkers who enable the tyranny by remaining blind, deaf, and dumb to it, like you!

Why don't you leave it if you aren't willing to stand up for it?

Unfortunately as proven in the vote over half the country doesn't care about facts or what will actually hurt their own interest.

They let the 2% richest in the country convience them that it is in their best interest to not have health care, have more wars, increase SS retirement age, let the HCare companies make record profits...

and it is all Obama's fault. Be afraid of the one that is trying to help the middle and lower income folks.

How did you come up with Obama trying to help anyone? He took another bailout after GWB did, ruining the country even more with inflating the money supply, de-valuing the dollar, making the market stable momentarily due to buying out the failure.... but that only lasts so long, and the real purpose was never to help the little people out. It was so that the central banks and the US government could take control of the economic system. Think, if you took a loan for a million dollars to stock inventory in your new store, but no one came and bought anything, what would happen? It would look very nice until the company crashed. Likewise, you can't pay debt off with debt. This thing is too big, will lead to exponential hyperinflation and this country will crash just like others did before we can rebuild. Obama is no different than Bush. They both pushed for this agenda to destroy the economy by purposely, with help from the fraudulent FED, overlook the bubble, let it get out of control, lie to the people about what the bailout would buy out, then trillions of dollars disappeared, unaccounted for, with no oversight committee, and a non-Federal Federal Reserve laughing in our faces with bernanke telling us he won't disclose where the money went.

So far, we have witnessed the two BIGGEST bank heists in the history of man.

Obama is just as involved in turning our country into a modern day feudal system of poor serfs like you and me and ruling aristocratic elite. And it won't matter how much money you have, because when the dollar crashes, AND IT WILL, you will be left wiping your A$$ with your paper, not backed by anything of intrinsic value.

Hahaha! Right?

you mean you were stupid enough to believe that story?

Spec, its not their fault that the lie is so oft repeated. And it doesn't matter, now that we know its not true, they are on to the next lie, so no time to come back and take back their statements, its a lot of work to throw so many stones at your own govt for doing its job.

What kind of strawman argument is that?

Berry Soetoro has done nothing for this country. Stop being a sheeple and start researching.

Whatever happened to the odd but unusual concept of earning your own money for a place to sleep and a car to drive. I must be doing something wrong!

@Mike Bejing

I wonder...where were the likes of you 2 years ago before Obama took office...crying the same thing were you? Or are you changing your tone since the shoe is on the other foot now.

@littlebouchet

Whatever happened to the odd but unusual concept of earning your own money for a place to sleep and a car to drive. I must be doing something wrong!

I agree with what you are saying, but have you any idea of the number of industries that have left the country?

I am unemployed because he made my job a government job from a private job It went from 20 bucks an hour to 13 and I refused to follow the puppets to it. I figure I will take all my unemployment checks to the bank and not be productive for a time.

Besides, the majority of us do not hate (a favorite word of the liberal elitist) the President, We just do not care for the way he is doing the job. Most of us are not street cleaners either and do not wish to be street cleaners, but we can recognize when a street cleaner is doing a lousy job. Obama is flat out doing a lousy job as President but there are people out there who can do better. One of these people is who we prefer in the office. If She happens to be Republican, so much the better.

"It went from 20 bucks an hour to 13 and I refused to follow the puppets to it."... Sounds lazy to me. I hope your unemployment runs out and you can't find a job. You'll be crying fo that $13/hr then.

"Obama called his administration's efforts to repair relations with Muslims...." What did we do to f-up relations? Not sit back and take it lying down. Why do we always initiate "talks" or be the first through the door? Scr#w the Muslims. Don't like what this country does.... Get out of it. Apparently Odumbo didn't get the message from the elections. Maybe it will come through more clear in 2012.

Mike Beijing, I've had a job paying taxes since I was 15. I have paid for gas in all my vehicles since I was 16. I smoked for 12 yrs+. I've been a drinker since 16. I pay my taxes, whether income, fuel, tobacco, or alchohol, I pay them. The gov't, city, county, state, and feds, take this money and squander it. I was under the impression I would get it back in some shape, form, or fashion. Dependable, trustworthy, public servants and gov't officials.... NOPE.... Strong, everlasting programs that will be here past my great-grandkids.... NOPE.... Higher elected officials with strong values and a driven purpose to better life for their constituents..... Not too many there either.... Decent roads that are safe and passable year round.... Those are getting hard to find.... I'll sleep in my bed, under my roof and drive my car to my job 5-6 days a week, no floor, no walking. I think I've earned the right to do that.

Hey Mike Beijing;

The far left and the liberal media did the same thing towards Bush's but now the shoe is on the other foot the left cannot handle a little criticism. I feel this whole trip was a waist of tax payers money. Begging for business is not going to work when you got a government that spends out of control tax payers money. Stop SPENDING and stick to a budget like us small people and this country will do fine. The American voters need to stop voting for progressives who love stealing American citizens $$$$$$$$$$$$$ on foolish pork projects like for example cocain for monkey's if you get my meaning?

I wonder...where were the likes of you 2 years ago before Obama took office...crying the same thing were you? Or are you changing your tone since the shoe is on the other foot now.

2 years before he took office, "the likes of" people like him were probably working and listening the the left scream like banshees about every tiny thing Bush did.

I will admit I could not begin to do the job that our presidents are required to do nor am I qualified to do it. Now that I admit it, will Obama do the same?

Not up to your standards like the last genius who held the office??

Palin will turn us into a full fledged theocracy warship. Obama is destroying the country, part two of Bush's incompetence. They are all bad, it doesn't matter what their logo is, they all push agendas for corporate lobbyists, this isn't about terror, this is about MONEY!

His job, for the last time, DOES NOT require him to travel, he could have done a conference over the internet. Even common serfs like you and me have the ability, imagine what the government has the ability to do through a computer bought with all that pork barrel money they do what ever they want with! We're in a crisis, it's not prudent for him to pi$$ away money like this.

Strike the anti-religious rhetoric (yeah, I know, not happening, right), and this is actually right on the money.

Me too

Quick... someone hide the keys to Air Force 1 and block the use of his Government credit cards so he can't get back.

Me three!

I can't understand how "we" voted in a man who hates America and all it stands for to be our president...Talk about scary!

Yes! I can't understand people complaining about the cost of Obama's trips out of the USA. Most of it is fixed cost anyway. AF1, his staff, etc. are all paid all the time.

Point is, we could very well afford to keep him in India or Indonesia or Kenya for the next 50 years and it would cost dramatically less than his nymphomaniacal-wasting of taxpayers' money while he is here.

To all of the posters on this thread to date...A prophet is never recognised in his own land. That being said, I firmly believe that the democrats should forget about running for the Presidency altogether. Instead that should cherry pick the States that share their views and create a wider yet informal government that ignores the White House. Yes apply federal law, but oppose it all the way. Leave the rednecks to their ideological apartheid and lets see which grouping will have the better standard of living, with less social problems, and greater economic growth etc. Ok so they have Texas, but when the oil runs out they have very little else.

I'll go for that dublin. Don't come crying home to Texas when the liberal agenda bankrupts your utopia and you are over ran with illegal immigrants and living under sharia laws.

FYI: For all you haters out there: We have liberals in Texas, sure Texas is a majority of conservatives but there are some libs. My Mother is one of the biggest libs you will ever met in your life, ex hippie, voted for every democrat I can remember, gun hating, feminist extreme lib. So.... stop trying to run down Texas, most of you are just jealous you don't live here!

TEXRAT I'm starting to consider Texas as a place to move to!

I give you California...going to be bankrupt soon and now have good old Brown back... Maybe that "big one" will hit and put them all out of their misery.

If ever there was a poster child on how not to do things it's California...$20B in the hole and refuse to take care of the causes: Illegal's benefits and crazy environmental policies/laws. You'd think Obama and Pelosi would see and learn on the wrong way to do things, but that isn't part of the socialist agenda.

I'll take an independent Texas any day over the liberal mess...

"Most of it is fixed cost anyway. AF1, his staff, etc. are all paid all the time.", there's your problem, "fixed cost". It needs to be fixed alright. So much useless spending that could be cut.....But nobody can see the forest for the trees.

wait wait just hold on. if you block obama from coming back are you ready to allow isreal to have more control through VP Biden??

Texans, we're better off allowing these left-wing nutjobs to think what they do of Texas if it helps keep them out.

David, you DO know someone is actually going to have to work to support your utopia, not everyone can be on the dole at the same time.

Another lie from the right ~ red states take more federal money than blue stated Lonestar.

The rest on this post, what a fun game lets hope the president doesn't come back. I have a better idea why don't we get our president back and you can all go live in Indonesia or where ever you will feel more comfortable, because its obvious you don't like the US of A

Byl: Yeah, I know, if it doesn't align with your (distorted) left-wing rhetoric, then it MUST be "another life form the right". I understand you're pissed off at the election results, but just like in 2008, the voting public has spoken. It's only going to get worse for you in 2012, so you might want to start preparing yourself for that inevitability.

Also, I know how frustrating it is to see Obama in Asia, saving personal face at the expense of America. Everyone is mad about it, so it's okay to admit it to yourself.

Finally...while I'm very sorry to have to be the one to tell you, we're STILL not letting you into Texas.

Sorry all, I quit watching this story for a few days. Man, I sure opened up a discussion, surprised by all the comments. Thank you my fellow Texans for your back up!

LoneStar is right Byl, we're still not letting you into Texas! Rick Perry (our Governor) turned down all that federal money Obama was so freely handing out. We don't need no stinking handouts, we work for a living in Texas! (Unless of course a hurricane comes along a wipes us out)

He lived there with his Mother and stepfather, attended school etc. Perhaps, if she had not sent him to Hawaii, he would have continued to view it as home. Don't deny him a part of his childhood with his parents.

What's the argument? This is an MSNBC News Service article and they wrote the title. I thought they were the bible of the liberal elites? Anything they and their guru, Keith Olbermann, does or says is truth?

msoup:

All the posters here didn't call Indonesia Obama's homecoming.

It was the ultra-liberal MSNBC that described Indonesia as Obama's homecoming.

And you, as a liberal certainly would not accuse the ultra-liberal MSNBC of lying now, would you?

Come on people, they accomplished what they wanted to. We all read the damned story didn't we? Nothing gets people's attention like sensationalized headlines!

He's the one who says he's glad to be home! He made the headlines, we did not.

Msoup get away from the mirror

sorry, we actually use our brains instead of goose-stepping to the drum fox beats. If MSNBC says it must be true? not necessarily. If fox says it? definatly not. How about the rest of the right-wing main stream media? All of those right-leaning new channels weeping for the money he spent... oh wait that was a lie too?

Does your niece know how much the government spends to run several war ships daily, including a nuclear aircraft carrier, accomodations for well over 500, transporting a fleet of cars, just for starters? The point is, you are as naive as your six-year-old neice.

Does your neice know that we pay for the war ships regardless of how they are currently commissioned? Yes, trips cost money! OMG. $200 million dollars is more than it costs us to fund the AFGHANISTAN WAR. Mentally put this into perspective in relation to this trip and ADMIT that conservative punditry *gasp* got it wrong.

You may choose to call it passive deceit (after all they didn't *know* the information they were spouting was incorrect... it was "based" on a real article from the Indian AP.) Once, however, they received a thorough discrediting (and they did), it was their moral responsibility to correct their mistakes as visibly as they made them. I have seen no evidence that any of them went to anywhere near the lengths they did to deliver this discredited information to correct the record.

This is when it crosses the line from passive to active deceit. In other words, they are liars. "Newsmen" with all the respect from their faithful that "newsmen" receive, but "entertainers" who take no active responsibility for their mistakes or the consequences of their actions. Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity = LIARS.

blah, blah, blah, blah...

Indonesia =/= terrorists. Just saying.

No, muslims=/=terrorists.

S.B.,,,,, It's people like you that have a hard time grasping the fact that the Dem's took control of The House in 2006 (Pelosi; Reid & friends). And in 2007 is when everything around us started to collapse.

Right on Stephen, well put and to the point!

How nice it is for Obama. No matter how badly he screws up, no matter how many of his programs fail, he gets to blame G.W. Bush and then gets to wash his hands of the whole thing. The spending and debt that Obama has created, since he's been in office, is greater than the combined spending and debt created by his 43 predecessors. It happened on Obama's watch. Not Bush's. It's all the same with you dems. Take all the credit if something goes well (if it ever does), blame someone else when it fails. Just 2 more years...

Ah, sunshine. And what have the republicans ever done right? I mean they're great at deregulation, starting wars and instituting entitlement programs (prescription drug plan) that they never intend to pay for, while simultaneously cutting taxes and sending out happy little "stimulus" checks.

Just because you say you are for fiscal responsibility doesn't necessarily make it so.

Right on xxFEDUPxx, well put and to the point!

I was thinking that we should give Donald Trump a shot at the Presidency. Maybe we need a businessman running the country for a bit.

It is not as if we don't have lots of rich people in Washington now and maybe he will be harder to influence.

I think Donald trump would make a great president. He is a self made billionaire so he has learned to balance his own budget to keep getting richer so I think he could turn this country's finances back into the black. He is someone who has my vote should he run.

Anyone who had a lot of money before the crash, doesn't have so much money anymore. lol They wepted bitter tears when they looked at their portfolios. It was a very sad day for the rich who saw their riches just disappear in a blink of the eye. :( That's why people like Brett Favre have to keep playing football when they are over 40 years old and should be retired because half of their riches just disappeared in a blink of an eye.

Spoken like a true blind, ignorant bigot and racist that acts like they are better than everyone else and the world is out to get you. Go back to your D Chaney Bunker mentality.

Be afraid be very afraid. The bogey man is out to get you.

Remember your hate when god forbid something happens to you and you look up and the person stopping to help you and save your life doesn't look like you or pray to your god.

Actually the Globalists are happy to show he has lived in Indonesis. He was a child living there with his mother and strpfather, who but for being sent to live with his grandparents in Hawaii by his Mother, might have spend his life there? Just the facts. Kinda like the Road not Taken.

and you posted continually about Bush's trips as "vacations" did ya.?? You betcha...

@Bigfoot62: What ruling party? Indonesia is a multi-party democracy, with direct parliamentary and presidential elections (and aside from the Philippines is the only other country in SE Asia that is a true democracy). Did you get that? Thailand, Singapore, all of them non-majority Muslim countries are not democracies, but Indonesia, a Muslim majority nation, is. Citizens are free to organize and oppose the "ruling party" (which by the way changes hands constantly since they have a lot more than just 2 parties) whenever they feel like. If you want to complain about the treatment of separatists in the remote provinces by the security forces sent there to quell the insurgencies, be my guest. It is no different than the human rights violations (extra judicial killings, torture, etc.) in India in their Bihar and Kashmir provinces, for example. Or the HR violations by British troops when they were stationed in Northern Ireland. Or the violations in Iraq by allied troops. You get my point. But please, don't embarass yourself by comparing the government of Indonesia with the likes of Egypt and Saudi Arabia. Pssst...your bigotry is showing. The least you could've done was learn more about the people you hate so much.

@santoshk53405

holding the current president to a different standard than any of the prior presidents

Yes, and I'm sure the economy was in the same condition too. Plus, I'm sure every other president was spending 200 million a day on their trips. This has nothing to do with racism. It has to do with the promises he made to the country of the United States and the BLATANT (as you would put it) disregard towards keeping them.

Agree with his policies? His policies are systematically destroying the Constitution of the United States, but not by his nature; it is the wishes of those that are pulling his strings - he is just a puppet.

Oh...and by the way. He's also promising money (we don't have) to Indonesia. What's up with that?

Instead of supporting this treasonous impostor, why not do some research on Berry and keep an open mind about it. Put away your race card; it has no bearing in these matters.