I agree navyvet. It will be interesting to see how tough his budget plans will be. If they are tough then it will be interesting to see how all the various groups react as well as the general population. Might be a lively show.

Jerry's best bet is to let the State go bankrupt so the public sector union contracts can be redone so as to be, now get this, "sustainable". God I love that word sometimes.

But if Brown is tough, and actually fiscally responsible, what will the Democrats do without a Republican to burn in effigy? I know, they'll call him a 'dino'

CA has HORDES of FREELOADING ILLEGAL ALIENS from Mexico and Latin America who've swamped our taxpayer-funded entitlements programs...of course, how else did this moron get elected!

lets hope the fed can enact some form of amnesty without going thru the legislature, then more states can enjoy the destruction of the Republic!

Goog luck Cali, the rest of the nation does not want to bail you out! I don't see much hope with a Gov so tight with the unions.

Yes, you're right. He does sound pragmatic. I hope the state can get things done.

Goog luck Cali, the rest of the nation does not want to bail you out! I don't see much hope with a Gov so tight with the unions.

Most likely the Federal Reserve will bail them out first... Sort of an indirect tax on us through inflation and interest costs.

Anybody want to guess whom it was that has contributed to the the financial problems in California? First hint, the initials are J.B.

ah the criminal returns to the scene of the crime.

I voted for Whitman since there was zero chance of taxes/fees increasing with her in there but Brown has few choices. 2/3rds vote of legislature to raise taxes/fees ain't gonna happen. Voters via propositions have consistently said no to any tax/fee increases in recent years. Now legislators must pass budget on time or it will cost them money so no more excuses due to previous 2/3rds vote requirement. Borrowing is close to tapped out and/or becoming increasingly expensive. Nobody is buying "smoke & mirrors" accounting any more.

This only leaves one alternative and that is to cut spending drastically which has gotten way out of hand over the last decade. Once the cutting starts getting through meat to bone, then we'll see how our liberal friends view illegal aliens sponging the system. Only then will they finally "see the light" that push come to shove, taking care of citizens only is the only financial reality that works.

We'll see what happens.

navyvet98

Brown was frugal and pragmatic 30 years ago.

Stupid is as Stupid does!

The citizens of California HAVE PROVEN how inept they are!

California DID NOT get in the fiscal condition it is through ELECTING good leadership and Jerry Brown already helped lead California to the state it is in!

This could be disasterous for California and the NATION!

A former Californian here. A friend of mine read some of the last voting ballot to me, and there were several measures up for vote sponsored by the Democratic party that clearly indicated an anti-business tone. Am I off base here, or are the Dems hell bent on destroying what's left of California's economy?

California committed suicide today....

DFW if your state is ever devastated by a natural disaster, this is one Californian who won't be contributing to any relief fund. For the rest of you Chicken Littles who think the sky is falling, we here don't care what you think. Concentrate on your own state's problems and we will give the man a chance to see if he can turn us around.

Virgil,

CA is very unfriendly to business which is why so many are leaving and with the cap and tax law that will even further punish manufacturing (yes there is still a little left here) it will be really bad. Taxes will go up under Brown (we are already one of the highest tax states). The public unions have destroyed this state and it was Brown who allowed that to happen when he was governor so long ago.

Navyvet:

Are you serious? The same Brown that protected Rose Bird and company. The same guy who wanted his own CA NASA.

phantom, Any guess why I left my home state? I was there when he was in office the first time when I couldn't find the tech job I was qualified for, so I ended up moving furniture. It wasn't until the mid-eighties when business picked up and I was able to secure a tech job in Silicon Valley. When the Dems started to gain momentum again I moved to the Washington State Lib-pit. Out of the frying pan as they say.

Good post from oceanside greg!

the beautiful state of CA is going down the drain, SHAME! for a state that has more economic and financial opportunities than ANY other state the citizens INSIST on pissing it away by being a SANCTUARY state AS WELL as being MARRIED to politicians with Ds next to their name ONLY; regardless how detrimental and devastating democrat/liberal policies have ALWAYS been.

CALIFORNIA voters are IDIOTS! where else would CROOKS/IDIOTS like pelosi, boxer, walters, feinstein,.... reign?

Brown should see what Cuomo did his first day. He removed the concrete barriers, took a 5% pay cut for him and his staff and ordered a freeze. If Brown was serious he wouldn't be talking about a committee, or researching, etc. etc. He would take action.

It should be interesting to see how Moonbeam 2.0 differs from Moonbeam 1.0......this guy was responsible for the public sector employee unions to start their programs, aided by the liberal spending party legislators who further fueled their pensions. Now how will 2.0 govern? Let's see, the unions elected him, there is no doubt about that - will he now go against the unions to reduce costs? Even if he does, the liberal courts may block cost-reduction programs as they have for our previous RINO Gov.

It should prove interesting citizens of CA - hold onto your wallets!

Jerry Brown's political record is really quite good, despite the inane carping of many of you, especially Greg in Oceanside, who posts ultra-right drivel all over the 'Vine.

During Brown's time as governor in the 1970's, he confronted the disastrous results of Nixon's shutdown of most of NASA - which virtually dismantled an thriving aerospace industry in California, he led the state through troubles caused by two Arab oil embargoes, a wave of military base sutdowns, and attempted to undo the terrible damage of the prior Reagan governorship that attacked education, gave away public forests to timber companies, shuttered mental health facilities and increased homelessness in the state twofold.

Brown's earlier tenure promoted development of the solar industry, advanced technologies that later produced Silicon Valley, public infrastructure improvements, and greatly enhanced environmental protection, including finally making progress on severe air pollution, halting further pollution of major urban aquifers, and cleanup of toxic spill sites. And Brown produced a balanced budget every year.

He was followed by three inept Republican governors, under whose leadership California became saddled with debt. Democrat Gray Davis, who only served from 2001-2003, was never given much of a chance to do anything - the infamous Enron manipulation of the state's utility services, complete with rolling brownouts and criminally-manipulated prices, did him in.

Brown's work is cut out for him. Expect him to be creative, aggressive, and tenacious. If he is able to smash the gridlock in the state legislature, caused by a nearly-even divison of seats between the GOP and Democrats (with a further division in the GOP between die-hard conservatives and moderates), he may accomplish something. But also take note of this observation from the article:

Term limits in the Legislature mean many of them have little experience and are eyeing their next office with every vote they take.

Term limits haven't really done the voters any favors, by the way. And in California's legislature the governor has a severe challenge every bit as daunting as the state's economic situation.

Do any of you live in CA? If not....

Brown had better start with the labor unions in this state who are allowed to retire at 55 at almost full pay. Not one company in this entire country does that.

If he and the legislature want to raise taxes, they can start with property taxes for those multi-million dollar estates that pay peanuts because of Prop 13. Almost all states in the country rely more on property tax than sales or income taxes.

Raising income or sales taxes WILL HURT the economy, not help it.

We might as well pass a law like AZ too while we are at it. We need to reduce the number of illegal aliens using our social services.

John A - do you live in CA? By the way, while I am NOT a right winger, I completely agree with Greg in Oceanside.

I did not vote for Jerry Brown and am not happy that he is governor. He does what he wants to do, NOT what we California voters want him to do.

1. He did nothing to defend our vote on Prop 8.

2. He let lethal injections expire to prevent executions of convicted felons whose penalty was death.

3. Despite being innocent, Jerry Brown wanted to throw Bruce Lisker back in jail for no reason whatsoever.

I have resigned myself to the fact that MOST Californians are bleeding heart liberals and/or illegal aliens who manage to vote.

The good news is that taxes can not be raised without voter approval because we just passed a law at the same time this clown was elected.

Sven - That is a damn good idea - letting the state go bankrupt so we have to renegotiate the labor contracts.

BRAVO. The next email will be to my state legislators.

Here is a link for Californians to find their state reps.

http://www.legislature.ca.gov/

Yeah Karen, I live near Sac and see our dysfunctional legislators fumble along all day. I actually sat and watched these folks in session one day and was amazed at the time lost talking about useless items rather than balance the budget.

and no, many of us in the state are not bleeding heart libs. But you will find them in SF, LA and other major cities.

Hey Safecracker,

Nice to meet you. One of my co-workers is NOT a liberal either. I agree that we should always give a helping hand. I do not agree to support people for the term of their natural life.

My co-worker likes Sven's idea too. I hope you join us and lobby our legislature.

NO NEW TAXES - that would KILL our economy. We need to have a pre-packaged bankruptcy like the car manufaucturers and MGM (as in Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer). I'm already working on it. There are plenty of attorneys in LA who are qualified to handle pre-packaged bankruptcies.

Good for you Karen.....I am in the process of talking with the State government about removing equipment I am owed money for from the state. I am out the cost of equipment and installation now for the past year while they continue to state they are out of funds. But, they can increase staff salaries and spend in other areas. Well, if the removal of the equipment and software shuts down the gov. so be it......either I am paid or I repo.

David 1102226, Living in the Bay Area for a short spell convinced me that as the Mayor of San Francisco, Feinstein couldn't find her a s s with both hands and a flashlight.

You will not get bailed out, Ca. has cost the US dollar after dollar after dollar with their looney tunes crap.
Party is over .

"Registered California Democrat" lol, I thought that redundant until noticing "Registered"

I would assume coming from you, a proud registered California Democrat, that means that California is too big to fail. Two guesses what comes next. The first one doesn't count.

I remember Ford to New York - "Drop Dead"

Co Moonbeam... You all made the right chioce out ther. Meg Witless would have been a hught disaster.

Love how the tea bag loons rant about illegals then nominate someone who hired a bunch of them. "Why do they keep comming here?" To mow your lawn biotch!.

You should learn to spell and type before engaging in this forum. It would make you at least appear educated.

You should also realize that the Meg Whitman thing was a setup from start to finish, Gloria Alred and her crying mexican Maid..... I would think that it is too early to know what Brown will and Can or Cannot do. Either way, if he is true to his word, his time in office this cycle will not be a love fest.

I live in Hawaii, and our state is as penniless as Cali, only smaller and the impact much less, but we too have elected a ultra Liberal govenor and we will see how it impacts the state.

jay v.

good post and whitman was CA's only chance, as well with fiorna over that schmuck barbara boxer.

BUT yogabaga is to easily brain-washed and gullible to know he has been fooled! he actually was dumb enough to fall for that gloria allred publicity stunt, that's all one needs to know!

yogagagbag is proof that esl programs are a failure.

Mike, you are part of what is wrong with California. Brown is part of the original problem with liberals. Spend, tax, cave in to environmentalists, cave in to unions, and drive businesses and people out of the state. California liberals have created such a huge mess by all their rules, regulations, laws, taxes, and spending. Bringing back someone part of the original problem will not bring your state back. Brown will never do what Grovernor Christie did in New Jersey. That is what California needs. Brown is proposing new taxes. Again, part of the problem. Your high taxes has driven out businesses and people from the state. This is you problem. I am for the environment, but believe there is a middle ground. California, time after time has enacted laws and regulations making it difficult to do business in the state, too costly, and put animals ahead of the welfare of the state. You have areas of past prosperous orchards and fields that are now dry to protect a stinking fish. Instead of coming up with a win win solution, you cause a more than 40% unemployment rate in these areas. You let perfectly good water bypass the valleys and pour straight in to the ocean. It is a sad day for any state in our country to sacrifice peoples livilhoods for no good reason. California had a chance to bring in someone to the state that would do and make the tough decisions and you voted for past problems with the state. California is the laughing stock of the United States. I hope California goes to the feds begging for a money handout and surely hope and believe that you should and will get no financial help. It is about time in the country that businesses, people, and states pay for their decisions and have to get on their own two feet on their own. You will never learn your lesson, unless you are forced to make the necessary decisions to bring yourselves out of this. The rest of America should not have to pay for your mistakes, other states mistakes, and other businesses mistakes.

Teabagging lamebrains.

"Voted for you because you've been there before and worked within the system for your entire career"

Yeah... and helped to get California where it is today... Left coast logic?

As opposed to voting for the woman who made thousands of HP employees jobless?

Right coast logic?

or live in orange county.

and are a orange

"...or have an orange tan."

you folks can afford it since you all drive all them import brands, heck, even had a import for a Governor!....

If only......

If you look at the states in the most financial trouble and the highest unemployment rates, you will find that they are all run by dems. Why is that? We all know the answer, but some remain in denial.

Arnold was a republican....or did you even bother to check?

Arnold was a coconut, Republican on the outside, Democrat on the inside.

Yeah....I thought your last Gov was Republican. Anyway, it is the corporations that are dooming your state.

Washington State is doomed because of the increases in the B. & O. tax, ( Business and Occupation ), among other things The state has been beating Boeing up for years which is why they moved their corporate headquarters out of the state. If businesses here make over $100K per year they are taxed on the furniture in their lobby's and offices, their machinery, the floor space taken up by said items, and anything else the state deems taxable, again, and again, and again. The City of Seattle is proposing to charge more for parking during peak hours, and taxes business on the number of employees they have, and weather or not they take mass transit, a union dominated money pit. The state and it's municipalities have squandered so much money at the hands of Liberals that everybody in this state is getting hosed. So no, it's not the corporations that are dooming the state, the state is dooming the state, and who is the state controlled by, Liberals.

Joe,

It is not the corporations that are dooming CA it is the public employee unions and the pensions. there are people retiring in their 50's who are making more their first year in retirement than what they were making working. No one should make more in retirement than when they work and the state, cities, counties can not afford to keep paying.

Stan, Arnold was a Republican in name only. But, you have to look at the legislature. Just like our federal government, the legislature controls the budget. How many years have your spend, tax, and anti business democrats had the power of both houses in your state?

Clearly he's not mentally competent. I mean what sane person would want that job?

rrobeson.....I've been saying the same thing about Obama for a few years now. I'm convinced McCain thought the same thing half way through his presidential run and figured the best way out of it was to pick a totally incompitent idiot for a running mate.

yeah I mean at that age, you're looking to spend the rest of your life doing what you like to do, enjoy and have fun doing! He doesn't need the reputation, he didn't need a job, he already has one or more significant pensions. As for the money, the California governor makes less than most senior city and county officials do.

So in a way it's very interesting, because he really doesn't have to 'pay back' anybody and isn't relying on any special interests to fund his future career. That's an enviable position for a politician to be in.

Should be entertaining, painful, but entertaining.

The total incompetent idiot is now prez!

One thing about right wingers....no one hates like you guys.

We don't have it down pat as you libs do! Campaigning odumbo called sarah a pig, but the thin skinned little man had to play the race card as soon as his experience and associations came to light. I believe the hatred of the left was displayed when Joe the plumber was trashed by hyper media blitz to uncover anything negative about this innocent citizen that dared to ask odumbo a good question. The bus loads of investigators and lawyers trying to uncover anything on Sarah with the intensity of the Gestapo. The black panthers threatening voters with clubs and protected by odumbo. The violence by union members, incited by odumbo asking people to fight back, beating up a black Tea Party member for handing out stickers. Funny how all the hatred thrown at the Tea Party was proved untrue, however was displayed in force by the left! More dribble from the uninformed left!

If the truth be known, about 90% of CA are hoping Jerry can solve the major issues.

Good luck Jerry.

And the other 10% live in that zany place known as "reality"...

And the rest of us, who pay the taxes, are looking for the fastest way out!...

HOPE is NOTa strategy. If the state goes bust, that can break the back of the unions who have helped destroy the state. $50-60,000 to house an inmate while FL and TX do it for less than half. Teachers getting 20% more pay than any other state, while they produce mediocre results behind TX.

We deserve the high unemployment, and a resulting bankruptcy.

This may seem trivial but, when I watch HGTV, "House Hunters" There are a lot of people paying for million dollar homes, that would sell for a lot less here in Ohio. Of course, I know the term "Location! Location! Location!

I could not move, to California and purchase a home there because, I would get, a lot less home, for two to three times, the price, I would pay in Ohio. I believe cost of living, in California, is astronomical and most of America, could not afford to move there, without wining the Lottery. How can Californians expect anyone to want to invest there, when everything is so highly priced and out of reach, for the average American?

Wel Jeff F. good karma for Moonbeam 2.0, huh? We shall see what the rich, white guy will do to recover the state from the mess the liberal spending party has done over the years. Don't forget that Moonbeam 1.0 started the biggest money drain in the state, the public employees unions who help him get elected in 2.0 of his reign.

Will 2.0 change the law on unions? I doubt he can due to the union leaders, our dysfunctional legislators who are owned by the unions, and let us not forget the liberal judges who rule in favor of the liberal CA mind set.

Someone previously commented on the car registration tax to be increased, along with the gas tax, business taxes, etc. We will see those items increased, and Steinberg and company will resist any reduction in funding for their liberal causes......they need the criminal alien vote. And yes, it isn't difficult for a criminal alien to register to vote in CA. Oh, I forgot, they should not be refered to as criminal aliens, but as undocumented aliens - we don't want to demean them.

It wasn't Arnolds fault. He kept on sending the script back to his writers for a plot rewrite, but they just wouldn't do what he wanted.

Now that they have passed a simple majority last election to pass the budget, The Dems will simply pass budgets with more spending, taxing and social programs/protections for illegals. Businesses will continue to leave making for a greater shortfall, California will have to get more Fed help just to survive. Of course, they could just drill of oil and pay down their debt. Nope, in California the have a Nautral Gas receiving in San Pedro for the Russian Tankers to dock there to sell the US Natural Gas, which can export same if the environmentalists would permit it.

California will not get any bailouts, any conservative that votes for a bailout for any state will be gone in the primaries in 2012..
All of those states that need it, will be the libby states, they will vote dem, no matter what, they are always going to vote for the party that offers them the most freebies, we don't have to care what they think.

Jerry, agree 100%. California, other states, and businesses need to pay for their mistakes. They will never change their habits if the government keeps bailing them out. Other states and citizens should not have to pay for Californias liberal habits of tzx, spend, and drive people/businesses out of their state. No federal politician ought to vote for a bailout and should be voted out of office if they do. The grim reality is that states need to put the states interest first and not unions, environmentalists, and other special interest groups. This is their only way out. Wait until the hundreds of billions of dollars in pensions and benefits have to be paid out by the states like California.

I agree with you Jerry, CA doesn't need a bail out - let the spending party liberals that created this mess solve this mess.

Prior to this year, the Dems always blamed the budget mess on the "2/3 approval process". Now that this has been changed by law to a simple majority, the real budget process will show the citizens just who is spending money that the state doesn't have on programs that are unnecessary.

Perhaps now the citizens of our state can see just who is accountable for their high taxes and fees. Perhaps we can get logic back into the gov.

As Meg Whitman's advertisements noted, California did very well when Brown was governor. That's why he was elected again.

RocknRhonda - Unfortunately I believe term limits were instituted in our formerly fair state after he left office the first time around. We had a choice between Moonbeam II and Meg Whitman who might have had the brains to do the job but fell way short when it came to candor. She did her Spandering to the hispanic community while telling another story at the same time on the topic of illegal immigration and that irritated both groups and satisfied neither.

Brown may be pro all the things you listed but we're out of money and businesses are leaving the state on a daily basis. He's going to have a hell of a time raising taxes and there is no money available for continuation of the many programs the liberals/progressives have created over decades. He's also about to find out that the rest of the country is not keen on the idea of the fed's bailing us out - so we'll just have to wait and see.

children are swayed by magicians, they never notice what the other hand is doing, and will continue to clap no matter how obvious the slight.

whats a middle class?....still have those in California?

No - we have the Hollywood and San Francisco elitists, the Sacto political elite and then there's the rest of us. No more middle class. Hell - I'd be considered well off in many states but in CA a 110k salary doesn't go very far.

We could have a middle class in California once again. We had one when I was in high school in the 60's. Since then it's been a slow but certain downhill slide.

No middle class left in Cali. Just sponges who take, take, take and never give back. then there are the hollywood types (but they move overseas to escape taxes). How are you left coasters gonna pay for your welfare to the illegals?

lifeflight - I think the plan is to go to the federales for what is commonly now referred to as a "bailout" to be paid for by all of the other states. This is somewhat like what is going on in Europe now with one broke country going to its equally broke neighbors to borrow money...........which they lend after borrowing it from the next sucker in line.

California will not be getting a bailout from the Federal government. It would NEVER pass Congress. I don't think Californians realize how much ire the rest of the country has for that state. Californias policies have really isolated them from many in other states.

I don't even buy fruit that comes from California anymore. They disgust me that much.

What's this "Cali" stuff? Did you move fro "Ari' or "Washi" or "Ida", maybe "Colo"?

Just don't move to Oregon. Kalifornicators have already screwed my state.

Nostalgia?

Hey California-there is a reason the rest of the country won't bail you out-we are tired of bailing out people that build homes in the path of potential wildfires and will not clear the underbrush because of environmentalists. Then there are the rains and the mud slides as a result of the fire. We have erosion and then of course the earthquakes.

Between floods and drought, you stop agriculture to protect a fish. You offer everyone that can show up a free education thru college, healthcare and welfare, housing and medicine. Your housing market and its excesses was a big part of the housing market bust. You have all been on a spending binge for 30-years and no-one wants to stop and balance the budget! You are broke. Face the reality and YOU fix this problem. TIRED if supporting your left wing idealogy. Can't afford you, you never make logical choices-only more illogical. Who do you think you are anyway?

Pay your own bills and shut up!

FLYP.

As a Californian, I can only say one thing to your comments. You are right.

What a bunch of whiners.

FLYP, thanks for giving the Caliornia liberals what they deserve. Could not have said it better. Over 40% unemployment in the areas that are affected by protecting the fish. Letting good water flow directly in to the ocean and putting people out of work, just to make the environmentalists feel good.

Actually the term socialist with union is appropriate, not because of what they did to protect the American worker, but how they did it. Basically they collectivized (yes that's a word) all individuals and recreated them as a group. There is no such thing as an individual in a union, they are all equal, all treated equally, all rewarded equally, etc. Hence the appropriate term of socialistic.

That's also the bain of unions because any sane person knows that nobody is equal to anybody else, we are all individuals, we are all unique, we all live different and separate lives, and to group us collectively together for any purpose is just another artificial form of racism.

and thats the biggest bunch of BS, I've heard in awhile rr....go back to china-mart...they are all individuals too...what kind I don't know , but still!.."L:

mikemather says:

"Anyone who wants to get rid of the unions is simply looking for more profit. That's why companies are outsourcing jobs overseas."

Funny how a concept from the turn of the century meant to correct harsh working conditions and unfair pay has done a complete "about face". The Unions are not about equality - they are FOR THE UNION - PERIOD.

The Japanese were smart - they weren't about to pay someone with NO skills a $55/hour package with health and a pension to install 3 screws on a door with robot assistance. Instead, U.S. companies allow themselves to be saddled with UNION GREED and pay through the nose for cars with inferior quality - while driving their operating costs right through the roof.

After that, the trade deficit with China and the lack of U.S. kahunas to stand up to them and demand an equal playing field - while putting their foot down on corporations to move off shore are the biggest reasons we have lost so many jobs.

think that's bs stan, try to either one of these things to a union member:

1) Reward 1 for exceptional service, or attitude, or sacrifice beyond their job duties. Most union members discourage others from working more (or better) than required.

2) Punish 1 for not doing work as well as another. Then try and replace such a person with a younger person who is willing and able to do a better job.

That's not bs, that's just union groupthink.

No, not really looking for profit. Just looking to keep the unions from stealing my money and giving it to the political group that greases their palms. Oh wait, that's the democraps. You gotta love Californians. Bunch of fools who live in a great area. I like the great state of Idaho.

sorry rr but you ever been in a union?....I was for 30 years...and we did the best job we could without rewards, the pay was good enough....and punish someone for not doing the job as well?...because maybe they were handicap or for some other reason?...and yes we do have seniority..live with it...we all started at the bottom...and who's to say a younger worker will do a better job?..you see the work ethics of some of the young people today?..get real

yo Harryo-754421

Japanese have jobs for life, superior health benefits, and good pensions. How do they do it? Answer: they buy Japanese!

and the same could be said for a lot of other countries....

You are absolutely right. Once upon a time, back in the 1940's and earlier, American labor needed the protection of the union. The union served its purpose for the worker, grew a middle class, and then became corrupt and feasted on everyone else. In a self fullfilling prophesy, it dined on its host but will not give up.

We cannot afford unions that have 25-40% better benefits than everyone else while public sector union membership is growing and private sector taxpayers are shrinking. The math does not add up. Life changes, as do economies. Deal with it or YOU will kill the american dream for all.

How can you justify large union pensions, large union political voting blocks, easy membership that voids firing even if your a dolt that is lazy and doesn't do the job??

You are correct that unions were formed to balance the abuses of large employers, but their time as meaningful American organizations that helped all workers has passed to organizations bent on political profiling, and getting as much as they can while the rest go down the drain.

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javadanny, Japans economy has been terrible for decades. Not a good example. Also, the reason for businesses leaving California and the US. Second highest corporate tax rate in the world, rules, regulations, laws, unions, etc. Whether any of you like it or not, we make it easy for a company to pull up its roots and go overseas. We make the cost of making something 100% or more higher in this country than it is to make in another country and we whine about it. We are a spoiled and whiney country. If a business cannot make something competitively, they go out of business. There only choice is to move overseas. If the US does like California and imposes more taxes, rules, regulations, and unions on the companies, more and more will move overseas. The only way we bring these businesses back is to lower their taxes and make wages more competitive and bring down the costs of making products in our country.

Well, I guess you got what you deserved then. My sympathies.

I voted for J Brown. In a perfect world I might have voted for someone else. But the Republicans sent Meg. WTH?! This woman was so in over her head. She actually thought the governor's office was a $150 million "Buy It Now". Gov Brown may be exactly what this state needs. Tough love. Grumpy old man.

You could have voted third party, like I did.

I sent (and I wish MORE would have) a message. "I would rather throw my vote away, then vote for you"...my conscience is clear...

If you think our state 'needs' Jerry Brown, You need to have your head examined...

Angela....you sure got screwed by Arnold. So this should be better. But like Obama...he has been given a colossal mess to clean up and years from now you probably will blame him for a mess that he did not create.

Joe B,

He actually started the problem when he allowed the public employees to unionize.

Joe B, I did vote for Obama, but he's a lying sack of poop, who hasn't kept even ONE of his 'so-called' promises and changes that got my vote in the first place. He not only failed to keep his promises, he got us deeper in debt with his 'health-care bill'.

He may not have 'created' 'SOME" of the problems of today, but he didn't do a damn thing to resolve them either (and he and his party had 2 years to at least try). He was too busy trying to give our country away to Mexico and spending our tax dollars faster than that drunken sailor Bush....

Oh and I did the sensible thing and voted for the worthy candidate during the Grey Davis debacle and cast my 'hope' at Tom McClintock (you know the Republican who would have actually been beneficial to us, but didn't have the 'Hollywood/Kennedy' BS...)

Mike, again, this is the problem with California. You have to run a state and our country like a business. You and the rest of California needed a governor like Whitman or Christie in New Jersey that is not afraid to do what is right for the state. Brown will never do this. If he does attempt it, the rest of you liberal lawmakers will put a stop to it. California may never learn from their past mistakes. I truly believe that California like some other states that the feds will bail them out. I certainly hope not. You and others have made you bed and need to lay in it. By the way, in a liberal state like NJ, Christies approval rating is 70%.

I would think the u-haul business has been, and will be good in Ca...though you might quite often run out of equipment. You'd have to pay people just to drive trucks and trailers BACK to Ca just to meet demand.

My wife and I live and work full time in San Diego, and we're planning to move to Colorado in a year or so. The only argument any body can give us is "but the weather's so nice." But, I'd rather deal with bad weather any day and actually be able to get ahead in life, instead of just scraping by.

I'll take a no income tax state any day! California sucks.

Don't let the door hit ya.........................

They already refer to us as Mexifornia so I like your odds..................

A lot sooner than that. Try 2012 North American Union

Now your talkin'

Who cares, what, California does?
Conservatives understand that the twinkies in California will vote for the party, that promises them the most freebies.
We don't have to care what you think or how you vote, we know that you will always vote dem, for the freebies.
You're in deep doodoo twinkies., You're on your own, no fed money coming.

Of course he doesn't hire losers, one loser in the bunch is enough.

I really don't think that Arnie even has to go back to work. But I do believe that he went into it to begin with to help the people. His first order of business like Gov. Brown's would be is to get rid of the illegals. This would cut out some of the spending, but instead of doing that (yes Arnie too) they make the state workers go on furlough. So instead of hurting the illegals the citizens of California and America were hurt first.

@ Jerry

What freebies are you talking about? California is the most populated state in the country with a huge economy. Even with a high unemployment rate of 12.4% today that still leaves 87.6% of the working force employed. Our state's population of 39 million is made up of all sorts of people from all walks of life. Your remarks are ignorant, hateful and anti-American.

Jackie your state will not be the first to come back and I would be willing to bet that it will be the last or never come back. You will never pick yourselves up off the ground until your state comes out of the tax, spend, overregulate policies it has created. California's answer to everything is to spend frivolously and on everything socialistic, tax everyone, tax every business excessively, and pass laws/regulations to drive more businesses out. I live in Michigan and your atmosphere to attract new businesses and people are worse than ours. Michigan and other states will come back before California does, because you are driving all of your businesses to other states. Keep up the good liberal thinking and Michigan will prosper.

I agree.......to bad the cartels bought the vote.

John, again why California is doing so well! All you need is a bunch of liberal whackos running around and then give them legalized drugs. Your state is in the tank and with this kind of thinking, you are never getting out.

So you say this with such confidence, I assume you have some data. I don't believe you. Put your data on the table.

John, here you go.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/immigrationnaturalizatio/a/caillegals.htm

So excited that you moved to Washington state? Well you should feel right at home up there.

MITCH---- Take it to the bank, if the conservatives vote to bail out the leeches, Ca., Ill., Ny they will be leaving us during the primaries in 2012.

jerry, I fear if they do that they will be 'leaving us' thru more expediant means.

That works, too.

As long as President Obama is in office California will be bailed out and he will find the same RINOs to go along with him as he did in helping him repeal DADT.This will be no surprise to me as I realize that these RINOs can be swayed id the deal is right.

JIM---- Well, all of us who don't mind working for a living like capitalism, just fine.

Amen to that Jerry...

We did give everyone a home. It was called a stated income loan. They couldn't afford it. Hence, the mortgage meltdown and record foreclosures. People still have to pay utilities, upkeep and taxes. And who would pay the previous owner of the house? Would they just donate it to the state? Our Constitution forbids taking property without equitable compensation. A Capitalist would never dream of suggesting such a socialist idea.

so move to China,or Venezuela and be happy.

Craig, you sound like you believe the majority of those loans were drawn up honestly. Nothing could be further from the truth. The purpose of capitalism is to separate a fool from their money and buy the politicians necessary to hang on to ALL of it, without paying a fair share to the commons.

If one comes out ahead through hard work and careful money management these days, it's called a miracle. Chances are, one retires, in poverty, after being replaced by a foreign worker, contracted through an agency whose sole purpose is to displace Americans.

Time was when an employee and an employer formed a lifelong bond, sometimes with a little reality check from organized labor for the overly greedy manager. Not so anymore.

God bless the lady who bought a Cadillac with her welfare payments.