That's what she thinks the Revolutionary War was about, someone trying to take away our guns... whereas in reality it was, of course, actually about those abortions the redcoats forced upon our women.
Palin is just finding it difficult to shoehorn history into her own conservative belief system. Paul Revere riding for 2nd Amendment rights, Statue of liberty symbolic of anti-socialism and American exceptionalism. When she tries to manufacture these connections, it comes out as gobbledy-gook and contrary to the very real patriotic symbolism that is already there.
So if she's just providing us with additional information that does not contradict the 'official' version, what's the problem.
The mainstream media is so anxious to denigrate her that they seem to want to cast dispersions whenever possible. Personally, I don't think she should run - not because I don't think she couldn't do a better job than Obama (she was far more qualified than Obama), but because the media has done such an effective (and unfair) 'hatchet job' on her that she has no chance of winning.
Hey let's cut her some slack. After all Paul Revere lived like eight hundred years ago and they're was no written record of what actually happened so its not her fault she got the history a little messed up. Besides without the British we wouldn't even have an America. Haven't you people ever heard of the Mayflower and Marco Polo and stuff?? The British East Indiana Spice Company led by Magellan established a presence on American soil long before the American Indians even migrated here from Mexico. This is our land, it's a shame people can't even know a little history about our own country! Read a books you ignorant fools. Paul Revere, John Adams, George Washington Carver, Bryan Adams - These are the founders we need to look at as role models, not today's celebrity politicians, including Sarah Palin, Barack Obama, or Arnold Shwartzzenezegar.
Palin and Glenn Beck are good examples of how the right goes about trying to confuse Americans by taking bits of history here and there and then interpret them any way they like to make their righwing point.
It's like they're telling people to do the same and forget about what the rest of the world thinks. Go ahead and live in your own world, why not? Don't let reality and facts get in the way.
I find it odd that those who claim to be 'THE REAL PATRIOTS' invariably tend to be those most ignorant about the constitution and the history of our nation:
1) Christine O'Donnell, tea party candidate demonstrated more than once that she had no idea what was in the constitution- DESPITE the fact she called herself a constitutional scholar:
4)Sharon Angle - another tea party favorite- stated "Government isn’t what our founding fathers put into the Constitution." Which raises the question: Has she ever read it?
6) The tea party "THE CONSTITUTION IS SACRED" faithful have fought to do away with 'Birthright citizenship' as codified in the 14th amendment. The second amendment is the ONLY part of the constitution they know.
You see, the tea party isnt about patriotism or the constitution- it is about mouthing the words and putting on an act in order to win over the ignorant long enough to advance the agenda of the corporate and wealthy.
There is a reason the Koch billionaire brothers are funding this national embarrassment - and if you think its to help middle class America, then you are a fool.
Palin & Bachmann should go back to school, and the Tea Party should be mortified that they've supported two people who clearly have shown enough evidence to classify them as morons.
Roy Wilson - Providing additional information? As a major American History buff, especially Revolutionary War, this is beyond moronic. Paul Revere himself recounted his ride that night, and nothing in his writings indicate anything about taunting the British. For me it has nothing to do with Sarah Palin, but it has everything to do with running your trap when you have absolutely no idea what your talking about. I will gladly debate this subject with anyone.
On Tuesday evening, the 18th, it was observed that a number of soldiers were marching towards the bottom of the Common. About 10 o'clock, Dr. Warren [Joseph Warren, one of the few Patriot leaders who had remained in Boston] sent in great haste for me and begged that I would immediately set off for Lexington, where Messrs. Hancock and Adams were, and acquaint them of the movement, and that it was thought they were the objects.
When I got to Dr. Warren's house, I found he had sent an express [fast messenger] by land to Lexington — a Mr. William Daws [Dawes]. The Sunday before, by desire of Dr. Warren, I had been to Lexington, to Messrs. Hancock and Adams, who were at the Rev. Mr. Clark's. I returned at night through Charlestown; there I agreed with a Colonel Conant [provincial militia veteran William Conant] and some other gentlemen that if the British went out by water, we would show two lanthorns [lanterns] in the North Church steeple; and if by land, one, as a signal; for we were apprehensive it would be difficult to cross the Charles River or get over Boston Neck. I left Dr. Warren, called upon a friend and desired him to make the signals.
I then went home … went to the north part of the town, where I had kept a boat; two friends rowed me across Charles River, a little to the eastward where the man-of-war Somerset lay. It was then young flood, the ship was winding, and the moon was rising. They landed me on the Charlestown side. When I got into town, I met Colonel Conant and several others; they said they had seen our signals. I told them what was acting [happening], and went to get me a horse; I got a horse of Deacon Larkin. While the horse was preparing, Richard Devens, Esq., who was one of the Committee of Safety, came to me and told me that he came down the road from Lexington after sundown that evening; that he met ten British officers, all well mounted, and armed, going up the road.
I set off upon a very good horse; it was then about eleven o'clock and very pleasant. After I had passed Charlestown Neck … I saw two men on horseback under a tree. When I got near them, I discovered they were British officers. One tried to get ahead of me, and the other to take me. I turned my horse very quick and galloped towards Charlestown Neck, and then pushed for the Medford Road. The one who chased me, endeavoring to cut me off, got into a clay pond near where Mr. Russell's Tavern is now built. I got clear of him, and went through Medford, over the bridge and up to Menotomy. In Medford, I awaked the captain of the minute men; and after that, I alarmed almost every house, till got to Lexington. I found Messers Hancock and Adams at the Rev. Mr. Clark's; I told them my errand and enquired for Mr. Daws; they said he had not been there; I related the story of the two officers, and supposed that he must have been stopped, as he ought to have been there before me. [At this point Hancock stated he intended to stay in Lexington and fight, and Adams vehemently disagreed, saying their job was political.]
After I had been there about half an hour, Mr. Daws came; we refreshed ourselves, and set off for Concord. We were overtaken by a young Dr. Prescott, whom we found to be a high Son of Liberty. I told them of the ten officers that Mr. Devens met, and that it was probable we might be stopped before we got to Concord; for I supposed that after night they divided themselves, and that two of them had fixed themselves in such passages as were most likely to stop any intelligence going to Concord. I likewise mentioned that we had better alarm all the inhabitants till we got to Concord. The young doctor much approved of it and said he would stop with either of us, for the people between that and Concord knew him and would give the more credit to what we said.
Hey let's cut her some slack. After all Paul Revere lived like eight hundred years ago and they're was no written record of what actually happened so its not her fault she got the history a little messed up. Besides without the British we wouldn't even have an America. Haven't you people ever heard of the Mayflower and Marco Polo and stuff?? The British East Indiana Spice Company led by Magellan established a presence on American soil long before the American Indians even migrated here from Mexico. This is our land, it's a shame people can't even know a little history about our own country! Read a books you ignorant fools. Paul Revere, John Adams, George Washington Carver, Bryan Adams - These are the founders we need to look at as role models, not today's celebrity politicians, including Sarah Palin, Barack Obama, or Arnold Shwartzzenezegar.
Really? How does that make Sarah Palin any less stupid?
FYI Antony Weiner is innocent until you can prove otherwise and either way no law was broken.
Maybe they should be spending more time checking out the lowlife elected officials who are busy wasting taxpayer money?
Like the strong possibility that Sarah is using donated PAC funds for a vacation bus tour? She may no longer be an elected official but she still has to disclose if she's campaigning or camping.
Roy at some point in time people like you are are just going to have to realize that Sarah Palin IS JUST NOT QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!...neither MORALLY, ETHICALLY, or INTELLECTUALLY! Not to mention the fact that she obviously DOES NOT REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE! It does not matter WHO you compare her to!
Just what this nation and the Earth need right now, the scoop on Paul Revere. How utterly relevant!
Gosh, this Einstein is just what this nation requires to lead us into new frontiers. Thank you, Palin for setting us straight. Since birth, I have been hanging on tender hooks, dying to know about Revere and his horse ride thru all the whatevers. Awwww, what would we all do without this brilliant mind and force. What a scholar.
DEAR GOD! People can't be supporting her can they?? I'd vote for a bag of dog sh** before I voted for her! Even hardcore Republicans can't be seriously considering her to run for president.
Yes, that's what happened. She's just providing us with additional information. Information that apparently only she knows. After all, who are you going to believe, all these so-called "historians" and "professors" with their fancy "educations" and "books" or a half-term governor who can't name a newspaper? Exactly! Remember, right wing ideology is more important that the truth and anyone who questions whether she has her facts straight is an elitist.
Side note: it's "aspersions" not "dispersions". But again, pointing out the ignorance of right wing Palin worshipers just brands me as part of the lamestream and my high school diploma proves that I'm not a "genuine American" like you.
Even hardcore Republicans can't be seriously considering her to run for president
I am a Republican and a woman, and I can tell you that I'm NOT going to vote for Sarah Palin. As far as I'm concerned, her being an idiot--which she is--isn't the only problem. The people of Alaska elected her governor, and she QUIT.
I don't want a president who will quit when the job gets hard, or because something more interesting comes along. I can't imagine how anyone could seriously consider voting for her.
So if she's just providing us with additional information that does not contradict the 'official' version, what's the problem.
The mainstream media is so anxious to denigrate her that they seem to want to cast dispersions whenever possible. Personally, I don't think she should run - not because I don't think she couldn't do a better job than Obama (she was far more qualified than Obama), but because the media has done such an effective (and unfair) 'hatchet job' on her that she has no chance of winning.
Roy, her "additional information" is ludicrous just on the surface. Why would the colonists want the British to be warned? The whole point of sending out the riders was to alert the colonists that British troops were on the march, so that they could be prepared for battle. Don't you think warning the British would take away from this?
And where exactly would she get this "additional information" - when EVERY historian says something completely different? Even the British wouldn't agree with this one.
And please explain to me how she was "far more qualified" than Obama. Personally, I'd like my president to have SOME grasp of history, geography, etc. - and post 1.2 above does an excellent job of showing how badly Palin does when it comes to actual, y'know, FACTS.
I dunno what satire is but all these people that keep wanting to make fun of sweet Sarah need to get a life and look in there own mirrors and there own glass houses. You can put lipstick on a pig but the pig still makes bacon and eggs and other good breakfast stuff! All the so called intellectuals in this country really don't know anything, blinded by big corporate media and Steven Colbert making jokes and stuff about good Americans. Real Americans work hard, plumming, sweeping streets, fighting terrororists that want to kill Americans and knock down the statue of liberty. God blss this country, need a real hardworking American to take office to get this country back on track like Eisenhower used to do.
I hope this is satire, too. If you're serious with this post and your previous one, you're even more of an idiot than Sarah is (at least she has some grasp of the rules of grammar, spelling, punctuation, etc.).
At some point Sarah needs to hire a legit manager who will tell her to shut up, talk about the issues and stop trying to sound intelligent. There are plenty of dumb elected officials.
Making the mistake originally was bad enough. Her unwillingness to admit the mistake, and her immature defense of it as if it were not a mistake are telling!
I'll take anything she says over what your guy says.
He thinks we have 57, or is it 58 states. he also thinks it's still 2008. Don't forget how a $900Billion deficit each year for a decade equals $1Trillion dollar surplus.
Palin doesn't want to be President......she wants only to be elected President. Big Difference. She is a pathological attention seeker who does not care who she hurts in her quest for self affirmation. We, as a nation, must not allow incompetence to become the majority vote just to validate one person's shallow self esteem.
I think Sirfiver hit the nail on the head here. I don't think anyone seriously believe she meant that Paul Revere was also warning the British. I honestly didn't even catch that. What the ridicule is for is her blatant misunderstanding of basic historical principles so that she can miraculously warp every patriotic event from American history to support her radical views or attack her political opponents.
Does that mean that Paul Revere was one of the original Tea Party members? Oh wait, those Tea Party members were not Conservatives. were they? Well that would explain why darling Sarah got confused by the whole thing; She thought Revere was warning the Conservatives to prepare their houses for billeting.
Amazing! This lady says anything about anything and it's front page news. What did Paul Revere do? He made Revere ware----what else?? Don't you just love that copper bottomed cookware? Yeah, I know the difference.
The ignorance here is amazing. Quite frankly, it doesn't matter what Palin says, the libs are always going to speak intelligently and just call her dumb and an idiot. That's the only response they know. No wonder they voted for Obama. They think the country is humming along and we have full employment and .....
Well, anyway. Anyone who thinks that Revere's ride was just about warning Hancock and Adams that the British were coming just to arrest them is very naive and either ignorant or stupid. Talk about revising history. The lib version of Paul Revere's ride, if you assume as they do that Palin didn't know what she was talking about, is that Revere rode quietly to Lexington, knocked on the door and warned them and then quietly rode home. The British then marched to Lexington, knocked on the door and Hancock and Adams weren't there, so they went back to the boat.
Reality is different. Yes, Revere yelled and warned that the British were coming. He stopped at houses along the way to warn that the British were coming. He didn't hide the fact that the British were coming. And guess what? There were British who lived along the way and they were also warned, if they had ears. Only libs think that all that screaming was meant for the people to wake up and say ok, and go back to sleep.
Anyone know were Revere went after Lexington? To Concord! Why Concord? Because it is a nice place to have a picnic? Yup that must be it. It couldn't be because that was where a major arms depot was located at, could it? Of course, after the SHOT HEARD 'ROUND THE WORLD and the first battle on the Lexington Battlegreen, the British marched on to Concord! They like picnics too!
No wonder libs hate America. They are so ignorant of their history.
We must realize that if this woman were ever elected to national political office she would have history books re-written to reflect her version of popular events in history, and of course some things like slavery, the civil war, Lincoln being assassinated would never ever get published...
I think Roy's found his presidential candidate. To build that kind of idiot logic out of an episode that reminded most sane people of that Miss USA moment with the "such as,... maps of the Afghanistan..." quote is as revealing of his intelligence as it is his blind allegiance to a like minded idiot.
The only certainty if she wins the Republican nomination is that Barack Obama wins the General Election.
Just because I have conversations with myself sometimes doesn't make me looney. My mom calls me the Einstein of our generation. That movie with Russell Crowe about the mathematician that saw ghosts and stuff reminds me a lot of me because of how smart I am and sometimes how reality isn't really what it seems. You've got a long way to go to get to my level but I doubt you'll ever make it because I know so much more about physics and string theory in my little pinky than you do in all of your brain cells. Plus my new pastor says you only have until October 31st until the real rapture comes and I'll be saved and none of this will even matter anyways. Repent now, Prions for Peons!
I don't think there is another person on the planet who, every single time they open their mouth, says something as dumb or just plain wrong, as Palin does. It's almost like she TRIES to be wrong on purpose, like she's going for a Guinness World Record or something. It's hard to fathom how people could actually support her running for ANY office, much less President of the United States.
You know what, I despise George W. Bush and everything he stands for, but I'd welcome him back into the White House myself, if Palin were the only other option available. Thank god that isn't the case, but that's still how I feel.
When the media calls Sarah Palin a terrorist and a secret muslim, like she did to Obama, then Palin will have a right to bitch and moan about hatchet jobs. Slander is her middle name. It's about the only thing she has experience in; lord knows she has no governmental experience.
when Sarah was elected Mayor of Wassilla her first trip was to the public Library where she tried to have the library shut down because they refused to ban certain books she felt were inappropriate
RI Mom while I am not one to defend Palin I would like to examine a few points.
Paul Revere did warn the British in a sence but not in the way she suggested. Paul Revere was captured on his way and no doubt this alerted them that there was resistance in the region.
If you like to look at things side ways it could be argued that Sputnik bankrupted the Soviet Union. Sputnik was responsible for the arms race to enter the heavens. The cost of the space race that followed was in part the cause of the bankruptcy of the State. It requires an a lot of imagination to get there however.
Vice President leading the Senate. This is where she is absolutly right. The Vice President is Senate Pro Tem and as such is leader of the Senate. The role traditionally is given to the majority leader but according to the Constitution it is his job. The Vice President is role to break ties if there is one.
The Constitution is based on the Bible. Since most laws are based on Bible that wouldn't be too difficult to believe.
Kodiak is the larges island if you ignore Hawaii. Since she doesn't believe that Obama is a US citizen then I can see her argument. After all Obama was born in Hawaii.
As far as anything else is concerned I have no idea what she is talking about.
“Mitchell repeated Paul Revere’s warning that 500 New England men were mustering in Lexington. He told of the alarm bells and signal guns, and the volley of musket-fire near the Green….Others also remembered with vivid clarity this electrifying instant when they halted on the road, and Paul Revere’s warning reached them through the mouth of this highly excited captor, Major Mitchell.”
From “Paul Revere’s Ride” by the Brandeis University historian David Hackett Fischer, Oxford Univesity Press, 1994, Page 185
Palin's timing might be off and she failed to mention a few key events, but it is documented that Paul Revere was captured and questioned by Major Edward Mitchell who instructed that Revere be taken at gunpoint to Lexington. Revere did warned Mitchell that the people had been alerted and were taking up arms to make a stand. The British were spooked and released Revere in order to make haste. This set of circumstances is discussed here:
From "Paul Revere and the World He Lived In" by Esther Forbes, Pulitzer Prize winning author and Newberry Medal Winner, page 267
Paul Revere and the World He Lived In" by Esther Forbes, page 267: "When Major Mitchell had joined the main body of troops, the soldiers gathered around him to hear his story. "It was between 3&4 in the morning," Lieutenant Sutherland says, "he told us the whole country was Alarmed & had Galloped for their lives, or words to that purpose, and they had taken Paul Revierre but was obliged to lett him go after having cutt his girths and stirrups." Richard Pope, who seems to have been a non-commissioned officer also stood about listening to Major Mitchell's account, "The took three prisoners, one the noted Paule Revere, who assured them that the country was alarmed; that he saw the embarkation, which was then publick. This information was soon after confirmed by firing of alarum guns, the bells ranf, and the drums beat to Arms in concord, and were answered by all the villages Round."
The is a slight error here in the retelling, namely that Revere's saddle was cut. I attribute this to some forgetfulness of embellishment by by Richard Pope, the non-commissioned officer.
But here is an exerpt written by Revere himself about 23 years after his famous ride:
This letter is the transcript of the original manuscript held in the Manuscript Collection of Massachusetts Historical Society.
I observed a Wood at a Small distance, and made for that. When I got there, out Started Six officers, on Horse back, and orderd me to dismount;—one of them, who appeared to have the command, examined me, where I came from, and what my Name Was? I told him. He asked me if I was an express? I answered in the afirmative. He demanded what time I left Boston? I told him; and aded, that their troops had catched aground in passing the River, and that There would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up. He imediately rode towards those who stoppd us, when all five of them came down upon a full gallop; one of them, whom I afterwards found to be Major Mitchel, of the 5th Regiment, Clapped his pistol to my head, called me by name, and told me he was going to ask me some questions, and if I did not give him true answers, he would blow my brains out. He then asked me similar questions to those above. He then orderd me to mount my Horse, after searching me for arms. He then orderd them to advance, and to lead me in front. When we got to the Road, they turned down towards Lexington. When we had got about one Mile, the Major Rode up to the officer that was leading me, and told him to give me to the Sergeant. As soon as he took me, the Major orderd him, if I attempted to run, or any body insulted them, to blow my brains out. We rode till we got near Lexington Meeting-house, when the Militia fired a Voley of Guns, which appeared to alarm them very much. The Major inquired of me how far it was to Cambridge, and if there were any other Road? After some consultation, the Major Rode up to the Sargent, and asked if his Horse was tired? He answered him, he was--(He was a Sargent of Grenadiers, and had a small Horse)—then, said He, take that man's Horse. I dismounted, and the Sargent mounted my Horse, when they all rode towards Lexington Meeting-House.
Considering Palin was providing a candid comment without necessarily having the material right in front of her, she did hit amazingly close to the mark.
Of course, you can ignore the comments of Paul Revere, Esther Forbes a Pulitzer Prize winner and author of a Revere biography and a published university historian. But who's really the moron between all of you and Sarah Palin (hint: its not Palin)
"The ignorance here is amazing. Quite frankly, it doesn't matter what Palin says, the libs are always going to speak intelligently and just call her dumb and an idiot. That's the only response they know. No wonder they voted for Obama. They think the country is humming along and we have full employment and ....."
witchrunner,
At first I though this was another poor attempt at satire and then it hit me... you're for real! Well... witchrunner you just made are argument for us. Never let intelligence and "dern" book learning get in the way of facts. But what do I know I am just a Socialist, liberal, Communist, Nazi, tree hugging, Democratic, Pinko, baby killer. And to think I would allow education, intellectual curiosity and critical thinking get in the way of "fancy pageant walking" and sleeve wearing phony patriotism. "Dern" Libs!
The sad thing is that there are people who say what SH123 was saying ... but are dead ass serious. You know .. like the people who live down the street from me and have had a huge sign up in their front yard that says "Palin 2012". O_O
I think we can all agree... Democrat, Republican and Independent alike that we all want our Presidents to be at the very least intelligent! Only the truly cognitively challenged are going to vote for someone so obviously ignorant by choice and proud of it! Stupid will always seeks out stupid.
I voted for Obama because I wanted to do all I could to keep Palin out of office (even VP) I will vote for whoever I have to vote for to keep her out of office in 2012 if it comes down to it. BTW... Unemployment was dropping before Obama was elected (let alone took office). Yea, it continued to drop, but you can only do so much to get people to hire again. Republicans aren't even trying to do anything for unemployment because they are hoping people would blame Obama and not vote for him again. I may not care to much if a republican takes office (Im not a democrat or a liberal) BUT I do not want it to be Palin.
That's right another stupid president wanna be. "I can see Russia from my house" and "Paul Revere rode to warn the British"!!! The drilla from Wassilla and the tea party is going to win big. Especially if Bachmann and Palin are hooked up in series.
(1) Magna Carta: Cornerstone of the U.S. Constitution...not the bible
What has Magna Carta meant for American law?
It is the source of many of our most fundamental concepts of law.
Indeed, the very concept of a written constitution stems from Magna Carta.
In over one hundred decisions, the United States Supreme Court has traced our dependence on Magna Carta for our understanding of due process of law, trial by jury of one's peers, the importance of a speedy and unbiased trial, and protection against excessive bail or fines or cruel and unusual punishment.
#2
A vice president has a really great job because not only are they there to support the president's agenda, they're there like the team member, the teammate to the president," Palin said. "But also, they're in charge of the United States Senate, so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom. And it's a great job and I look forward to having that job."
Palin's claim that the vice president is "in charge of" the Senate is wrong.
The only power specifically outlined in the Constitution for a vice president is to preside over the Senate and have a vote in case of a tie.
No further formal policy making roles were specified, because when the Constitution was drafted, the vice president was the runner up for the presidency, and was expected to come from a different faction or party.
Nonkjo. You are correct of course if you believe that it was Paul Revere's intention to get caught. The British being the professional army that they were was not likely to be spooked because some loony was going around yelling the British were coming. Where the British met many of their worst disasters was because they stuck to formation not run from them. This was very well known by the rebels at the time. If you take away that intention the argument fails.
You idiots that put Mrs. Palin down, I would love to see a battle of witts between youll all, my money would be on her. She was speaking on one aspect of the Revolutionary War and also the war changed in many ways from when it started to when it ended. It started out by some of the colonist being frustrated over paying taxes and then getting nothing out of their taxes, the King kept breaking promises. When the war started very few colonist wanted to break away let alone fight. It was a wonder that the war was won by us. Palin could be right, who knows, stories changed and things got exaggerated but one thing is that is true, what difference does it make. That is the great thing that came about in the last two hundred and twenty five years is if you have a opinion then you have the freedom to express it. This is Mrs. Palin's opinion and you uneducated people have yours.
R I Mom. My suggestion was not that the Constitution was based strickly on the bible. Rather my suggestion was that most laws at the time based themselves on religious beliefs. My suggestion is and was that it was a stretch but you could not simply ignore it's impact.
RI Mom you would have to decide as to whether there is anyone truly in charge of the Senate. To suggest that the Majority Leader is in charge is based simply on the fact that he/she is taking the place of the Vice President. According to the Constitution the leader of the Senate is the next executive office holder below the President. In most cases this is the Vice President. It could be argued that there truly is no leader within the Senate. If this is the case your argument stands.
William -- I'd take you up on that battle of "witts," but it wouldn't be a fair fight as Ms. Palin would be completely unarmed. And yes, it is wonderful that Ms. Palin and the rest of us are entitled to freely express our opinions. But most of us, when it comes to historic events, stick to facts rather than opinions. I say "most of us" because Ms. Palin has a history of trying to present her opinions as fact instead of, as you say, just her opinion.
BTW -- although things do change and get exaggerated, what I learned in school is not that colonists were frustrated because of "getting nothing out of their taxes," but because they were taxed without being represented in Parliament. But what do I know? I'm just one of those uneducated people who shouldn't have the temerity to "refudiate" anything Ms. Palin or her devoted followers say.
Palin is NOT who I want to see running for president, but neither is Obama.
The media can almost entirely create the image they choose with any candidate. With Obama, they covered up, ignored or dismissed his misquotes, mistakes and his VERY SUSPECT prior associations with communists, black racists, America-hating domestic terrorists and other unsavory characters, and instead placed him on a pedestal of praise and worship. On many occasions, the media actually issued personal attacks on others questioning Obama's lack of experience, anti-American associations and qualifications to be president. And we thought the media just reported the news. HA!
The leftist media of today is quite accomplished in their successful use of propaganda. John F. Kennedy understood that lower taxes stimulates economic growth and increases revenues to government. The leftist media of today would have liberals believing that Kennedy only cared about the wealthy and corporations because of this, and that he should be voted against. The easily molded leftists would even think it was all their own idea.
The whole purpose of the ride was to permit the assembling of militias to put the British on notice - that they no longer had free run of the country, that the colonists were serious fully prepared to stop them.
I think Palin's choice of the word warn was unusually poor. Big picture folks is what is important.
David, please do present your researched differing opinion?
Oh, that's right, you don't have one!
Are you saying that just because Revere was caught, he couldn't say, "Don't go to Lexington or else!" I did notice you conveniently ignored the part of the quoted texts that describe what Revere told the British as a warning. It's not me who said it, it was a university professor and a Pulitzer Prize winner. Are you a Pulitzer winner of a university professor? Or are you just some guy on Newsvine with an uninformed mob opinion?
If you did some more research, you'd know that a: Revere didn't shout "The British are coming!" (Please try to look beyond Schoolhouse Rock) and b. yes, the British soldiers were spooked because, up until Revere was actually captured, the British regulars did not even know what their mission was and there was much speculation that it was another training march by General Gage. Ensign Jeremy Lister of the 10th Foot [infantry] described the eerie scene of the gathering militia because as they were marching towards Lexington, in the dawn light, they could see the colonials running past them in the fields in order to get ahead of the British soldiers. That's when they realized it wasn't training.
On top of this, Private James Marr of the 4th Foot describes an encounter during the march when they were fired upon. He says that the troops were "green" and untested. Again, poking ones nose into a researched book, we get information that contradicts your unsubstantiated opinion! Go look in Fisher's book yourself...it's on page 187 and he has annotation for his bibliography. You bring nothing to the table!
Your comment about "formations" is irrelevant to the discussion and is an attempt to distract from a topic that you are not prepared to discuss! British firing lines and battle formations have nothing to do with the question of whether or not Revere warned the Brits so I'm not sure what your point is. If it has to do with the actual engagement, and you are alluding to the "Rebels" fighting differently, you'd still be wrong because the militiamen formed up on the green to face them. I think you are referring to Francis Marion who led irregular militia in a guerrilla campaign later in the war. And like I said, you're so far off topic with it, I'm probably wasting my time trying to educate you.
The anti-intellectualism problem is larger than Palin’s most recent gaffe. I absolutely do not approve of Sarah Palin, or Michele Bachmann, or any other Tea Party person for this reason, and worse that individuals like them profit from anti-intellectualism.
Palin and people like Glenn Beck are no better than Harold Camping who have gotten rich from ignorant people’s fears. They gain wealth due to no merit of their own—they are parasites on our society and like the parasites they are, they damage society.
However, and in all fairness, there is always more to the story…
Sarah Palin has gotten through life being a Beauty Contestant not a Rocket Scientist, and she darn well knows it. She also gets through life with street savvy, vindictiveness, and taking the path of least resistance.
Knowing she is too lazy to apply herself to scholastic studies, or even “listening” to advice from others, when the media asks her academic questions (AKA “gotcha” questions), she is very uncomfortable. She often responds to the questions like a sixth grader who takes what little he/she did absorb, and adds embellishment to create an answer.
She may not have meant to say warning the “British”—she was like a deer in the headlights. But she said it and it is inaccurate. To make matters worse, later she defends her answer with this:
"Part of his ride was to warn the British that were already there that 'hey, you're not going to take American arms, you are not going to beat our own well-armed persons individual private militia that we have.'"
Aside from her usual crazy syntax (well-armed persons individual militia?) often combined with a shrill voice that makes your hair hurt…There was talk of a second ride to warn of British troops planning to destroy a munitions depot, but the second ride never took place. In Sarah Palin World her Happy Ears heard “Paul Revere founded the NRA to protect the Second Amendment and our right to bear arms.” That’s just how information goes in and comes out, get it?
What about the bells and the shots (in another interview she refers to the “red glare”)? Paul Revere did not ring any bells or fire any shots. Once again, in Sarah Palin World, history and the “Star-Spangled Banner” gets all mixed up with her own views and comes out as a different version of history. As for her assertion that the Statue of Liberty represents anti-socialism, don’t tell her the Statue of Liberty was a gift from those darn socialist French.
One thing for sure, Sarah Palin is the last person to talk about “exceptionalism”--along with her Tea Party supporters--and the last person to take that call at 3:00 in the morning, or to be anywhere near “the button.” Enough!
Lizzy from boston, I think you better rethink what you wrote if you read that. The colonist didn't have jets that they could just jump on and fly to England, the colonist to send a representive to represent them. No the king kept making promises to colonist that he would provide them protection against Spain and he didn't send a army until they declared their independence, but then he also raised their taxes so a few organized and fought back but in the begining most colonist didn't support the fight, they were afraid of what the kings army would do to them and even to the end some remained loyal to the king. Its funny, we are a lot like the colonist being taxed and getting nothing but broken promises from our king which is Washington but instead of one king we have over six hundred of the worthless people.
Hello RIMom, I looked up a few of the things you mentioned.
From Susan B. Anthony's biorgaphy, she did not approve of abortions and said a woman who had one had been greatly wronged. She believed the only reason they were in use was because women were treated as 2nd class citizens.
The VP is the president of the senate. Remember back when Al Gore cast the tie breaking vote as "President of the Senate" way back when? The tie that he broke by the, part of it was to make Social Security payments taxable.
In 2007 "In God We Trust" was moved to the edge of the dollar coin instead of on the face. That was a dem controlled house and senate, not that it matters.
Use of the first amendment is limited, we can't yell fire in a crowded theater for example or slander someone.
The Constitution is probably based on the Bible and why not? Many scholars think this is the case and illistrate this with text almost verbatim from the Bible. This country was started by people fleeing religous persecution. Why wouldn't they use a document they believed held the values they held as a starting point.
Kodiak Island is the largest island attached to a state, Hawaii is larger but it is a State by itself.
This is the case I find most of the time when talking with liberals, they have half of the facts and haven't bothered to look anything up. Wake up people, it doesn't matter if you are liberal or conservative, you are still only getting half of the story. What we really need to do is balance our check book and take care of our country.
Nonkjo. OK I know that Paul Revere was not shouting the British are coming. Your argument is based on the idea that it was his intention to get caught. Whether or not the British were trainees or regulars was not something that could have been known by Paul Revere at the time. While the word formation may have not have been the best, what was true was the British were known to be arrogant and overconfident and not likely to be spooked by any single rider. Most of the British troops at the time thought that these rebels were, at best, a minor nuisance.
I still say if it was not his intention to get caught the simple fact of his racing to Concord was not to spook the British. It should be noted that Paul Revere was not the only rider. There were several some of which reached Concord. Paul Revere is the only to become famous for it.
Remember the argument was that his ride was intended to spook the British as well as to alert militias. If his intention was spook the British then he would have needed to get caught. I don't believe that was the case.
Its important to know there are still politicians out there, like Palin, that if they lie and never admit the truth, they are doing their job.
Where do these people come from? Is that what religious or radical extremism is? I'm beginning to think it is. You know, its like a 5 year old child who runs around with their fingers in their ears and screams, "La la la, I'm not listening!" Can't deny these ridiculous people the right to vote. Just point out that they should try to learn something beyond their thick skulls.
Thinking Democrats and Republicans have shunned her. The only people who embrace Palin at this point are people who are angry, don't know why they are angry, but really think its important to be angry.
William -- no need to rethink what I wrote. James Otis, one of the Massachusetts legislators, and the lawyer who argued for the Boston merchants who challenged the legality of the Writs of Assistance, is the person credited with using the phrase "Taxation without representation is tyranny." And although Wikipedia info is sometimes suspect, I refer you to their entry about the phrase: "No taxation without representation" is a slogan originating during the 1750s and 1760s that summarized a primary grievance of the British colonists in the Thirteen Colonies, which was one of the major causes of the American Revolution." There was disagreement between the Americans wanting actual representation (for which Otis argued in the Stamp Act Congress of 1765), and the British preference for virtual representation. You can look that up if you don't know the difference.
The Revolutionary War had many causes, but "no taxation without representation" was definitely a major cause of frustration regarding taxes.
The colonist didn't have jets that they could just jump on and fly to England, the colonist to send a representive to represent them.
Oh, my goodness, they didn't? Geez, I wonder if that's why they used ships?
Sarah Palin seems to hate the media because it's kinda like a teacher who gives her bad grades. She doesn't even know she's answered the question wrong, it's just that the teacher is a jerk and he doesn't like her.
And the thing is, our mainstream media is about as weak as it's ever been. The media lets this kind of thing slide. Not that they don't point it out and correct what was wrong, but in the past, the teacher might've actually held the grudge, actually brought up her past inaccuracies when they mattered or whenever people started to take her seriously.
Paul Revere wasn't flashing coded lights to the British to let them know that they weren't going to come and take our guns.
She's a joke. Taking her seriously and defending her casts serious doubt on those who would do so.
The minute history contradicts the beliefs or political stance of radical people, they rewrite it or defend a stance that might have a minor truth to perpetuate a larger lie as a defense to ignorance.
Speaking of ignorance and not checking facts:
David1159 The Senate pro tempore - A constitutionally recognized officer of the Senate who presides over the chamber in the absence of the Vice President. The The Senate (also referred to as President Pro Tempore or, "president for a time") is elected by the Senate and is, by custom, the Senator of the majority party with the longest record of continuous service.
BTW The Senate Pro Tempore is the 4th person in line to succeed a President Behind the Speaker of the House and The Vice-President
Why is this such a big deal? Just a short time ago Obama said there are 57 states and he was talking about NOW, in the PRESENT. Not history from 200+years ago.
Saying things like Palin "was more qualified than Obama" is the same funny meat that allows GOP to put someone like Michele Bachmann on the Intelligence Committee.
In my opinion, Bachmann has more than just a problem recognizing what is true and what is not. I think she believes her words are true right after she made them up and said them aloud. And there are those occasions when Palin/Bachmann are just repeating lines they have been given to say. Not people you want in charge of anything.
Your question, "So if she's (Palin) just providing us with additional information that does not contradict the 'official' version, what's the problem?"
Part of the problem is that Palin was not there when Revere was around and so the 'additional' info is pure fantasy on her part. Sometimes, like yesterday, I go after you for that very reason.
Amazing (well, not really) the number of "excuses" offered on behalf of Obama for his gaffe re 57 states.
And, Backhouse, you say that Palin wasn't there when Revere was around, but Obama WAS and IS here, and "visited all 57 States except Alaska and Hawaii".
Just a short time ago Obama said there are 57 states and he was talking about NOW, in the PRESENT
If I'm not mistaken, that was during the campaign, and he was fairly well exhausted, and admitted he was wrong and that he knew there were fifty, rather than trying to justify it with some nonsense about trying to warn the British off of stealing our guns. Paul Revere mostly communicated using lamp signals. Like a secret code. The British would've seen a guy with a lamp, and wouldn't know the codes. It might've been apparent that he was trying to warn SOMEONE, but he sure as Hell wasn't trying to say, "You better not try to take our guns, by golly."
The lamps were not held by Paul Revere. They were used to signal him to ride and spread the news. He did not ride whispering to people. He was yelling as loudly as possible.
Are you Libs really so daft as to think only the Colonists heard him?
The mere fact you think he rode signalling the British troops were on their was with a lamp just proves what the rest of know. You Libs were failed by the Government Schools.
Boomdawg: Yes the Veep is President of the Senate, but that doesn't mean he runs it. He breaks ties in votes, and he gets to smack the desk with the gavel to open sessions. Other than that, he doesn't even need to be there. To say he is running it is like saying the Conductor is running the train.
The Constitution being based on the Bible is not true. While most of the founding fathers were God fearing men, at least one, Thomas Jefferson, had in his possession, a well used version of the Quran, as well as edited his own Bible with a razor blade. Other founding fathers who were instrumental in constructing the Constitution were Unitarian Universalists who believed that each person's relationship with God is between God and the Person. They believe more in doing the right thing socially, and justice for EVERYONE. Another religion represented by the Founding Fathers was Quaker. They do not believe in forcing their beliefs on others either. There is a reason our first amendment states: "'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." Actually, our constitution is based on social justice and equity. If that's in your religion, great. You also need to know that religion in 1789 was not the same as religion today. Biblical intrepretation was very different.
The statement was "America's largest island" not "America's largest island that is not a state". Hawaii (island) may be a state, but it's still the largest island in America. Also, Hawaii (island) is only one of several islands within the state of Hawaii (State).
I think you need to use the American version of Google. You don't know your facts either.
"According to the letter, written around 1798, Revere did give up some details of the plan to the British that night, but after he had notified other colonists, and under questioning by British soldiers....Surrounded, Revere revealed "there would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up," he wrote."
So Palin is right about her history, and the media is wrong - What else is new?
The purpose or intent of Paul Revere's ride is not in dispute! Just answer these simple questions for me:
1. Did the authors I quoted say that Revere warned the British? (yes or no)
2. Do you deny that Revere told the British that there were militiamen waiting for them in Lexington? (again, yes or no)
There is no escaping reality, only denial? Go back and reread the original post and look for "warn"....it's there! Here's the quote from Fisher's book again:
Paul Revere’s warning reached them through the mouth of this highly excited captor, Major Mitchell
You can argue intent until you're blue in the face but you cannot quote one single part of anything I've written where I said Revere intended to be caught. You are splitting hairs on how the British got the message, I'm simply saying that it happened, regardless of the circumstances. I'm not making an argument, I'm just pointing to researched documentation that supports Sarah Palins assertion that Paul Revere at some point during the night warned the British. Seriously, go Google the book titles and read it for yourself, it's free. Quit tap dancing!
I never said the purpose of his ride was to "spook" the British either. Their discomfort was a byproduct of the warning he gave them when he was captured. (BTW, Dr. Joseph Warren and Dr. Samuel Prescott and William Dawes were the other riders that night.)
Professor Fisher says Revere warned the Brits. Sarah Palin said Revere warned the Brits. It really is that simple. The issue here is people are raking Palin over the coals and calling her a history revisionist yet there are scholarly works in existence that support what she said. The choice to avoid this reality is one you make willingly. Do I agree with you that she sounded stupid? Absolutely! But she wasn't defending a PhD thesis paper so I don't expect eloquence in an impromptu situation by someone who isn't a revolutionary war scholar. The question is, why do you. Sarah Palin is a nobody and we expect perfection. President Obama can't make a toast to the queen without reading from note-cards and still screws it up and people turn a blind eye. I guess a Sarah Palin hate-fest is more important that truth.
Debianni. I would like to set this straight. Yes the Constitution is loosely based on the Magna Carta. What I have been trying to state is that most of what was written had some religious basis. This is not to state that any part of it could be taken directly from the bible but rather it, as well as most laws at the time, had some religious tint to it. I have been stating that this requires a great deal of imagination but it could be argued.
As far as the leader of the Senate goes it would depend on whether you believe that there is a Senate leader or not. The majority leader is the leader of his/her party not of the Senate. The majority leader is only the leader of the Senate if he can hold his/her party together. This is something that has been shown to be a difficult thing to do. Oddly enough the Republicans are much better at doing this than Democrats.
The Vice President's job is to preside over the Senate. This is where the idea that he leads the Senate comes from. This in no way suggests that he has any control over what the Senate does. The way I see it is that either the Vice President is the leader of the Senate or that it has no leader at all. Considering how well it is working now the latter is probably true.
I stated earlier that Kodiak island was the largest island if you ignored Hawaii. Sarah Palin does not believe that Obama was born in the United States. President Obama was born in Hawaii so she must think that Hawaii is not a State. If this were true Kodiak would be the largest island
Nonkjo. I am not denying anything that you are stating. What I am attempting to do is to take Sarah Palin's statement and put it into the context of reality. The statement was that Paul Revere's ride was not only done to alert the militias but also to spook the British. If the question is whether he spooked the British at capture then the answer is that he yes. If the question is whether his intention was to spook the British through his ride alone I suggest that the answer would be no. This is why I consider intention to be so critical. I find what you are say facinating but in this case I consider intention to be King, not the reality of what actually happened.
You mean how liberals laugh their asses off at Palin. Yeah, she's a real resource to conservatives.
Personally I like my conservatives not to be laughing stocks. You go on, Bob, with your clown. Meanwhile thinking conservatives are looking for an actual candidate.
I would like to state from where I was basing my arguments from. My statements are as to what was his goal when he got on his horse and started to ride. Not when he was captured or when he knew he was going to be captured. This is where I see a difference. If the question is about the latter the answer would be different. I know that it is splitting hairs but I think that they are important hairs to split.
I have a question. My statement on 1.66 was collapsed. This is a first. What did I say?
"I know that it is splitting hairs but I think that they are important hairs to split."
There are no hairs to split on this issue. History clearly supports the purpose of the ride and it was NOT to alert the British in any way. Palin was just fabricating a story because it sounded good at the time. That's all.
Guys this can be debated into the ground, but there is nothing close to conclusive to back her statement.
I do not question your intelligence, your both well spoken and articulate but this is a pattern with her. She takes these bits of info and twist them to fit her views.
Roy Wilson---> Idiot of the first order follows Palin over the cliff just to get a whiff of her flagellation's.
Robert Cascadden---> Doesn't know or can't understand why the signal to Revere came from high position so that the British troops could be spotted at a long distance (Out of earshot??? DUH!!)
Just sitting here trying to join the fray, but I can't stop laughing as I imagine the fun that Tina, Jon, Stephen, Jay, Dave and the rest of our comedians will have with their writers as they prepare for this week's shows. Of course, some of my laughs were initiated by the great comments already posted.
The comics are the only real Americans that will miss Simple Sarah when her fifteen minutes are up. The Faux "real" Americans worship every word that SS or other Faux News dolts speak. They are so ignorant and brainwashed that they'll believe what ever imaginary history or Repugnican version of the truth that is drilled into their little minds. Actual history bores them since it does nothing to prove their contention that the USA is a christian nation.
"What you have seen or heard may or may not be the truth" is a classic Repugnican disclaimer which is usually shown after political ads. Imagine!! The entire saga of Simple Sarah and Mindless Michelle is based on their candidacies for Half President (SS-2 yr limit) and Half Wit (SS&MM-4ever) as the first ever executives for the UISA (United Imaginary States of America)
The possibilities of "imagineering"(fabrication of lie and/or twist of truth in order to create doubt) in common knowledge (truth)are endless. Once the Wit (SS&MM) Repugnicanizes Early American History, they will get a message from above* to proceed on to the 19th and 20th centuries for the massive cleanup on all aisles (coverups on all continents).
You Betcha, there can't be any similarities to war crimes committed way back in the 1940's to what happened recently. Like the A$$hole and his dick, Darth Cheney said, "America doesn't torture!" Huh, Huh??
"Guys this can be debated into the ground, but there is nothing close to conclusive to back her statement."
Yes, Roy, there is the obvious conclusion that she completely fabricated a story about a well documented historical event just because it sounded good at the moment and she is too stubborn to admit she is wrong.
Wasn't there a bit of controversy regarding the Colonists' battle tactics? I believe it was the first time "ambush" style tactics were employed and it pissed the British off to no end, claiming the Colonists were resorting to uncivilized and barbaric fighting methods.
Surprise was the basis for their fighting style. How is Palin going to explain the quote "Don't fire until you see the whites of their eyes" if the British were fairly warned of the Colonists' intent to engage them in warfare?
From reading these posts, there are a lot of mis-informed people - because of our news media and current education system.
Palin is from just about the year I graduated from High School. Back then, we were taught the WHOLE story, not the highest points, or just the ones they wanted to tell you.
William, I dont remember them asking Palin what her opinion on the Revolutionary War was. They asked about Paul Revere. Paul Revere QUIETLY warned people that the British were coming. She said that he rang bells and fired shots. He got captured and did tell the British soldiers that the colonists knew they were coming. She happened to be "correct" about that. If you watch the video, she obviously was stumped and had to think really hard.
I will match her wits against mine any day of the week. I promise she wont win, unless its all girly stuff like designer clothes or something.
Backhouse..so it was during the campaign, so what? Not 200+ years ago. Both you and Ed Grimley...MORE excuses!
Do you seriously not get the difference between misspeaking and and a fundamental misunderstanding of reality? Obama said 57 states because he was tired, and probably was recently looking at a bottle of Heinz ketchup, whereas Palin says something that's not only wrong, she doubles down and tries to explain herself.
Obama didn't come out and say, "Well, Canada, Mexico, Puerto Rico, Cuba, Jamaica, Haiti, and the Dominican Republic are basically states."
Considering Palin was providing a candid comment without necessarily having the material right in front of her, she did hit amazingly close to the mark.
Are you stupid, or a propagandist? What she said was that Revere was out there giving the middle finger to the Brits. "...that they weren't going to take our arms... as he's riding his horse through town sounding those shots and ringing those bells... that we were gonna be secure and we were gonna be free."
There is NO WAY TO WARP THE REAL EVENT TO FIT HER TWISTED, UNEDUCATED drivel. She is either a full-blown sociopath or a deluded twit.
Another poster suggested that she ought to hire a handler, who could tell her when to shut up and avoid revealing her stupidity. I truly fear that many of the corporate-approved candidates that we are offered in our contrived elections are managed in exactly that way. In that spirit, I am very glad that no one muzzles this Wasilla Hillbilly, lest she should appear a credible, worthy candidate.
Our "mainstream media," which is in fact a corporate controlled media, does not have any real interest in putting an end to morons like Palin, because she serves as a perfect distraction from the disastrous destruction of true democratic process in the nation.
SHOW us where our government is acting IN THE INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE!!
NO, not by gutting every social function of that government, but by holding the abusers and criminals who wrecked the economy to account. Not one single person will serve time for the crimes and recklessness that totaled the middle class strength of this nation. NOT ONE!
The media, bereft of any understanding of critical thinking skills, allows shills and minions of the economic elite to tell us that WE are our problem, and shake us and our heirs down for generations to come. WE are in fact the VICTIMS of the greatest swindle in the history of civilization!
Apologists like you are at least as bad as those who twist religious scriptures to allow for hatred and persecution and even mass murder, calling it the Will of God.
DM7741 - so you choose an errant version over the actual historical excerpts (1 by Paul Revere)? Seems to me one should review the evidence instead of ignoring it. Not doing so destroys one's credibility. This used to be taught in High School History Class - what happened to your school?
DM: Well, it is certainly mind boggling that Obama still has supporters who think he is a good president.
Actually, he may not have any supporters who think he is a good president. You never read any comments praising his handling of the economy (I thought his supporters would be thrilled that it is booming like it is, thanks to Obama). All you read about is dumb comments about Palin. Wonder why? Well, not really, I know why. It's obvious for everyone to see, at least anyone who has a brain.
Oh bob, you are so pathetic the only difference between you and Palin is you haven't figured out how to make money at it. By the way, the money is being made off you, not some Democrat laughing their ass off.
People like you need to be fired from voting Republican. Seriously. You are a Democrat in disguise if you are promoting Palin. Because nothing will destroy anything good from a conservative agenda faster than an elected Palin and all her fans.
So go back to your Democrats you pretend to hate. You obviously love em.
Sarah Palin has announced that if she were to seek the Presidency she would ask Charlie Sheen to run as her VP running mate. She further stated that her reasoning comes from the fact that Mr Sheen already has a huge following of Americans, and that he and she have a meeting of the mind on many issues, she has followed his Tweets religiously as have many of you and that "Winning" is a great motto.
It's obvious for everyone to see, at least anyone who has a brain.
Right. Since the article is about Palin, I guess everyone should be ragging on Obama. Everyone with a brain, at least.
What do you call a basement full of Democrats - Terrorist planning their next attack on America
That is just plain stupid. The Halliburton joke is potentially funny because it is possible. Democrats as terrorists? Then you think most Americans are terrorists. Perhaps they should get your room ready at the mental hospital.
Just because someone can see that Palin is stupid and a poor candidate for president, doesn't mean that they agree or like Obama. I voted for Obama because I didn't want Palin in office (even as VP) I will vote for Obama again if it might keep her out of office again. I would like to vote for someone else, but it isn't going to be Palin.
Careful now. You realize those kinds of comments will be collapsed by the community. It's super incredibly hard to tell sarcasm and satire with adding a /sarc or /satire or /jkthisissupposedtobefunny tag to the end of your posts. Oh wait, were you kidding? Is she really teaming up with Charlie Sheen? I like "winning" too!
Aggie, I know you're mistake-proof, but bear with me. Obama acknowledged the slip, whereas Palin is adamant that her story is based in reality, while continuing to embellish it.
My favorite arguments here are the "Well, how do you know he WASN'T warning the British??" ones. You're right! And you know what else? How do we know for sure that Paul Revere didn't have a tattoo of King George on his butt? How do we really know that FDR was crippled? Maybe he was faking. I'm going to teach that one to my kids. It's probably true. Also, Gandhi had a spaceship. Probably.
Palin needs to crap or get off the pot, NOW. Quit drawing all the attention to yourself and away from Republican candidates that ARE running. Its hurting our chances of winning. Romney announced he was running last week, but instead of more attention being given where it should, to Romney, it was spent on Palin. Unless she is running, and at this point, she isn't, she needs to just go away until her help is needed for the Republican nominee. The chair of the Republican party needs to tell her to cool it and quit drawing attention away from the Republican candidates, and also to quit criticizing them, unless she becomes a candidate.
You have so nailed it in #1.86! What is really amazing is the number of people who are trying to come to her defense and conclude by some bizarre technicality she isn't totally out of her mind. Anybody in their right mind has to know she screwed up, and then screwed up again when she tried to defend her statement. If you are a Palin supporter, the smartest thing to do is just shut up and let this blow over. There's plenty of other things to comment on and your time would be better spent slamming Obama. But no, people have actually chosen to post a defense for this. It boggles the mind! You could just skip past this one and not demonstrate just how silly it is to support this woman as a potential candidate for President. No one would blame you for remaining quiet on this one! Ever hear of discretion being the better part of valor?
If one really feels an urge to defend her, just say she misspoke under pressure and what she said was essentially twisted to make her look bad. That's not a legitimate excuse for her stupidity, but it's a acceptable explanation for her gaffe. I think this is really very telling. Not just about her and her lack of any useful or accurate knowledge, but more importantly about just how far some people will go to try to justify their support for her. That says a lot about how twisted a view of reality that so many people are living with.
Her comments earlier about the Statue of Liberty are just as crazy and contorted as the Paul Revere comments. This woman has the amazing ability to rewrite history to fit her message. And her followers accept it and even try to justify her ridiculous statements! Surely they really know better, right?
After reading the comments in her defense I must say that Cheetah in #1.19 actually has the most logical argument defending supporting her. It may be in poor taste, but at least he didn't have to make something up, he just stated what he likes about her. I'll give him credit for at least being honest about it which is more than I can say about almost all the other comments trying to defend her on this issue.
Still, I would think that the Palin Apologists would be at least a little ashamed for trying to support her ridiculous revisionist history of Revere's Midnight Ride. Most of them aren't, though. They try technicalities, spins, lies, and the artful dodge, but none have come right out and said, "Damn. It looks like she blew this one!"
It kind of speaks to their lack of integrity, doesn't it?
Republicans don't care how dumb this woman is. In fact, they kinda prefer the president to be dumb. Their president just needs to know how to sign whatever bill the Koch brothers decide needs passed. If they had someone too smart as president, their sinister agendas might be questioned or scrutinized by the one person who has the ability to veto the bill.
I'd just really like to know how she knew "they" understood the Constitution "back then" when Paul Revere's ride was 2 years before the Constitution was written. Channeling?
Did anyone tell her that wasn't marijuana, it was hemp?
Some of ya'll are missing the point and posting long comments for no reason really.
Simply because Palin's goofy-revisionist version of Paul Revere's ride can be spindoctored to be "sort-of" correct does not mean she had any idea what she was talking about.
Sarah Palin was correct on the History of Paul Revere. Here is the original historical text. I even kept the incorrect spelling as to not change anything:
"I observed a Wood at a Small distance, & made for that. When I got there, out Started Six officers, on Horse back,and orderd me to dismount;-one of them, who appeared to have the command, examined me, where I came from,& what my Name Was? I told him. it was Revere, he asked if it was Paul? I told him yes He asked me if I was an express? I answered in the afirmative. He demanded what time I left Boston? I told him; and aded, that their troops had catched aground in passing the River, and that There would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up. He imediately rode towards those who stoppd us, when all five of them came down upon a full gallop; one of them, whom I afterwards found to be Major Mitchel, of the 5th Regiment, Clapped his pistol to my head, called me by name, & told me he was going to ask me some questions, & if I did not give him true answers, he would blow my brains out. He then asked me similar questions to those above. He then orderd me to mount my Horse, after searching me for arms"
To the moron that said they have a PHD & Palin was off base I have to ask what history book do you teach from? Did it come with a prize like a cereal box would?
@Shuklack you stated "What you posted and what Palin said are different. Is that not apparent?"
I did not quote Palins comment. I am quoting historical text where after you read & comprehend it you can see Palin was correct. That is unless you have blinders on & do not wish to see. Read & comprehend first. Stop trying to "nit-pick" what I posted.
I did not quote Palins comment. I am quoting historical text where after you read & comprehend it you can see Palin was correct.
.... sigh. You do realize that Palin's version and the historical text you posted are very different versions right? Or is THAT escaping you? It seems to be.
Simply because you can spin it so that one minor detail of Palin's version (ie he warned the British) fits actual history by pure coincidence does not mean she had any idea what she was talking about.
Revere did not shoot guns or 'red glare' (wherever she got that from) with the dual intention to warn the British and Colonists. Paul Revere knew nothing about the Constitution or the 2nd Amendment, since it hadn't been written yet. On and on and on.
@Roy WIlson - there's no hope that you will ever take off your ideological bloinders and think for yourself but I will clue you in on a bit of English language - the phrase is "cast aspersions" not dispersions. Do you resemble that incineration?
I cannot top the first poster on this thread. Well done. And I think the rest of you have pretty much said it all. Nothing left for me except one observation.
I really LOVE Sarah Palin. She is sort of a combination of Lucille Ball and Ilsa, she-wolf of the SS. No comedienne can top her malapropisms. Tina Fey will only have to dress up like her again and repeat ver batim (sp?) what she said about Paul Revere and it will be hysterical.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, for whomever is responsible for Sarah Palin. What a gift to us, the American people and what a boat anchor she is around the necks or the GOP/TP.
God Bless Sarah Palin. Long may she rant in ignorance.
@Shuklack: Maybe I need to break this down to a 2nd grade level so you can understand this.
You are so badly wanting a "gotcha" moment with Palin your liberal bias is glowing.
I simply posted original historical text. It's very easy to read & comprehend that Paul Revere did in fact warn the British. Whether you don't believe this because it was coerced or not shows your lack of understanding.
Nice try but actual intellectuals can see the truth. All the pundits were loaded with apologies to Palin over the weekend on every news channel, in written news articles.
Your references to Palin's quote are not factual by the way. Did you read & hear it yourself? It's on news sites.
You my friend are a perfect example & poster child for the liberal democratic movement.
You remind me of a Ronald Reagan Quote "It isn't that Liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so much that isn't so."
Palin: "Part of his ride was to warn the British that were already there. That, hey, you're not going to succeed. You're not going to take American arms. You are not going to beat our own well-armed persons, individual, private militia that we have,"
I think nonjko interprets this best: "What she said was that Revere was out there giving the middle finger to the Brits. "...that they weren't going to take our arms... as he's riding his horse through town sounding those shots and ringing those bells... that we were gonna be secure and we were gonna be free."
Actually history: Revere warned the British only after being captured and questioned.
So, Revere did indeed happen to answer the questions of a Brit commander when accosted. It takes a whole lot of salt to fit that into what Palin said. I'm sorry if I'm not going to swallow that spoonful of spun BS you are offering as an explanation.
@Shuklack: Maybe I need to break this down to a 2nd grade level so you can understand this.
Your baseless attacks on my intelligence are unwarranted and only make apparent your own insecurities.
Well Palmettohawk, since we do not have a link to the "actual historical text" we have to take your word for it huh? A link would have helped to support your argument.
But reading and re-reading your "actual historical text" I do not find any inconsistency in what history teaches us and several unaccounted for inconsistencies in what Palin said.
She said the British wanted to take our guns. Huh?
That Revere fired guns and rang bells. Huh?
and so it goes.
I repeat. No comedy writer could write funnier lines for a political bimbo to spout. Tina Fey will only have to repeat her little diatribe word for word and it will be hysterical (not historical).
"Sarah Palin was correct on the History of Paul Revere."
No, she was not. Palin stated that it was the intention of Paul Revere's ride to alert the British forces. That is patently false and there is no evidence to support her story. Revere divulged some details of his ride after he was captured by the British and only under duress, and after he had warned patriot militias, but the purpose of Revere's ride was in no way, shape, or form intended to warn, alert, or intimidate the British.
To quote the addled Mrs. Palin:
Part of his ride was to warn the British that were already there. That, hey, you're not going to succeed. You're not going to take American arms. You are not going to beat our own well-armed persons, individual, private militia that we have," she added.
Palin manufactured this imaginary version of a historical event to validate her own personal political agenda. That's all.
I will get suspended for this, but will Newsvine "F UCKING" change the voting system?!?
Seriously! Change the voting system to a "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" system. Too many thumbs down over the thumbs up and the post gets collapse, but not the whole damn thread. This is ridiculous! Too many good comments get collapsed because of pettiness and simple mindedness! However, if this is impossible to do so, at least acknowledge it!!!
As for the Code of Conduct, I'm willing to receive several days suspension for NewsVine to at least notice this request. I've been posting it for over a month!
Jerko, appropriate name. You need to know your U.S. history. The British troops most certainly were sent to TAKE AWAY OUR GUNS. That was one of their missions. Take away or destroy any war stockpiles. You people are soooo stupid.
Palin is so stupid. She thinks there are 50 states instead of 57, she thinks Austrians speak german instead of Austrian, or that our corp are corpse, she also missed out on the summer of recovery last year, or how to propose a toast to the Queen, or she can speak without a teleprompter, or to use the term "retard" on the Jay Leno show. And she doesn't even hold an office!
That's a bit different than what she is alluding to, ie 2nd Amendment Gun Rights. Taking away your hunting rifles and pistols is not the same as war stockpiles.
Unless, you feel that the 2nd Amendment covers a citizen's war stockpiles lol.
Hell, the prez thought it was 2008 on may 24th. That is a sign of brilliance compared to the average lib! hahahaha.
I can understand a mistake like that. I'm pretty sure we all have signed the wrong date/year down especially when distracted. Birthday, the previous year, etc etc. Common mistake.
But this isn't an 'oops' moment. A 'brain fart' that made her forget actual history. No, the fact is she didn't know it in the first place. Which is ok in my book, I don't expect everyone to be a history buff - but if you are going to cite a historical event (especially to spin it to make a political point) at least get your facts straight.
There is a big difference between the two. It shows real desperation to cite a simple common mistake like accidently writing in the wrong date or getting some numbers mixed up (and admitting the mistake) - and then comparing it to Palin's steadfast ignorance as if they are somehow equal in their stupidity.
Seriously, her references to "well armed militias" is an obvious intent to tie in Paul Revere's ride to the 2nd Amendment, and her own political ideologies.
"I can understand a mistake like that. I'm pretty sure we all have signed the wrong date/year down especially when distracted. Birthday, the previous year, etc etc. Common mistake."
Really? Thinking it's 3 years earlier is common to you?
Yeah. Actually. Especially when you work in admin or any duty that requires you to remember/write down dates frequently. It is exceedingly common.
You may have never worked in such a field, but if you did you wouldn't be at all surprised. Dates can spark memories - possibly May 24th 2008 was an important day, or a day which he had to write down on a lot of paperwork. That can spark a 'muscle memory.' The year 2008 was important, when was the last time he was in Britain? In that location? When was the last time he had to sign a registrar? There are a million little reasons that can spark a 'brain fart' like that.
Ever fill out paperwork on your birthday, and accidently write your birth-year down when you meant the current date? How about your kid's birthdays?
And I will say it again, having a 'senior moment' and writing in the wrong year pales in comparison to Palin's general overall stupidity on almost every subject. Even considering the two to be equal in their level of ignorance is beyond ridiculous.
Really? Thinking it's 3 years earlier is common to you?
He didn't ACTUALLY think it was 3 years earlier, like he was in a time warp or something. I wrote 2005 on a document earlier today because I was going through a bunch of files from that year all week. I didn't actually think it was 2005, I just had a 'duh' moment.
Now you're talking....your idea about the 57 varieties. Yes, we can have fun filling in all the blanks and it will make great fiction and a few laughs.
Now Aggie let's have a cup of coffee/tea or a glass of water, your choice. All for now.
What is she going to come up with next....that there are 57 states???? Oh sorry that one was allready done by a different jack a$$.
You're grasping for straws when you cite a verbal flub from someone that obviously knows the actual number of states - and compare it to Palin's complete lack of knowledge about US history as if they are somehow equal in their ignorance.
One was a orator's mixup. Something quickly acknowledged and corrected. Palin's gaffe here is nothing like that.
It's not an "oops, I didn't mean that Paul Revere went around telling off the British with gunshots and bells that they best not infringe on American's 2nd Amendment Rights!" - what I actually meant was....
You really can't equate total wrongness with a slip of the tongue.
Boomdawg - what a totally ignorant post. Our Constitution was NOT based on the Bible. In fact, the founders of our country made very sure not to have any religious "speak" in the constitution. You far righters are so totally clueless.
I wrote a date the other day that was 2 years prior... I accidentally wrote my sons birthdate while signing refinancing paperwork 2 days after his 2nd bday. @!$%# happens. Palin stated that it was Reveres intention to warn the British on his midnight ride. It wasn't. Plain and simple. She is wrong. Yea he did end up warning them under stress, but she just happened to get that right. Its called a coincidence. BUT it was not his intent to do so. Also, no bells were rung or shots fired. She was wrong on several points. Just because one of several details in her statement (which she obviously had to think really hard about, and stumbled over) was correct, doesnt mean she was right. She even reiterated to say she was right. When she did this she said it was his intent to warn the British. That is where she became unbelievably wrong and insulted all of America. (or at least the ones that can actually use reasoning and logic)6
What a pathetic freakin moron the "Mama Grizz" is! She is the epitome of narcissism for not acknowledging her misspeak. She shows all the classic signs of a compulsive liar...Oh! wait...this makes her a perfect GOP/TP candidate!
This bus tour to highlight American history is a failure. No one is talking about the historical places they are not being highlighted. First go onto her SaraPac site and the first thing they do is ask for a donation. A bunch of fools donated to send her and her family on a bus tour to basically campaigne to see if she should throw her hat in the ring, not to highlight America, please anyone who buys that is just ignorant. So she got a bunch of fools paying for her trip. Good job she just took her family on vacation on your dime. If she really wanted to highlight America's historic sights why didn't she send a bunch of school kids on the bus tour so they can soak up America's history. She is a opportunist and nothing more.
1.56, 1.71 deleted, miked-332794 and ForWhatItsWorth-2708556 trading two-liner jokes about Democrats and Republicans that were off-topic and unfunny 20 years ago.
2 deleted, derail about Trig Palin, didn't go anywhere.
Justoneguy, I don't hate her or am I in anyway jealous of her success. True success is not at the expense of others and she using people and making then think she cares about them and America. Everything she has done so far, like the TV show and this bus tour is self serving. She was serving Alaska and she quit, now she using this tour to see if she can throw her hat into the 2012 election. Its not hate, its pity, for her who actually believes her own hype and the not too bright people giving her money. Like I said she is vacationing on thier dime.
I'm going to start calling Sarah Palin "Sideshow Bob", because that's all she is: a sideshow clown in a three-ring circus. She is nothing but an idiot and a distraction. Quite frankly I'd like to have a serious alternative to Barrack Obama to vote for come 2012, and not another choice between the devil(corruption) and the deep blue sea (crazy).
If we never hear from her again it will be too soon.
In the first place, Paul Revere likely was not a fool and only a fool would inform the enemy of anything before an attack or the resulting defense. Sarah Palin got caught out being ignorant (again) and then turned to a ridiculous explaination (as always). I'm convinced that this country will someday have a female president, biut not this train wreck. All she is accomplishing is making it more difficult, by affirming a negative stereotype about women, for the next female politician who aspires to the white house. She really needs a big cup of "shut the hell up".
At least Palin hasn't destroyed the country like the odumbo has! You guys are calling palin a liar, would you like a list of the odumbo lies? I will assure you they far outnumber palin's and are far more damaging to our country!
She hasnt gotten a chance to destroy the country and hopefully never will. Palin is a liar. Just because I know she is a liar, doesnt mean I dont know Obama isn't. I assure you that Palins lies and misinformation are much more stupid than Obamas. They are also hurting any other female who might aspire to be a president.
Well, technically, at the time, we were all still subjects to the British crown, so it a way, I guess, she was kind of correct. Also, given the fact that she can see Britian from her house in Alaska, to protect us in case they try to invade, I guess I will take her work on it...../sarc
Several interesting points, there was an article in the Boston Herald this morning backing up both Sarah Palin and Your points, by historians there in Boston,but I guess facts really don't matter, I also noticed that when You made your original post trying to bring the actual facts into the discussion, it was collapsed ," by the community", followed by the obligatory Palin derision, ad nauseum,on the part of those whose job it is to ridicule her at every turn in order to insure that no females in the Democrat camp would ever dare to take a look at what a successful self made woman outside of the Democratic Party has been able to do with herself, and more importantly, what she has been able to do without their,"help",( Wife, Mother with no abortions, even though she had a special needs child, hunter, fisherman,rugged outdoorsman,College educated,Mayor, Governor, Vice Presidential candidate,author, and multi-millionaire), because the dirty little secret is, if women started to see what they are capable of doing, without the so called, "help", of the Democratic Party, it would be an absolute disaster for the Democrat Progressives. Imagine if the women of the Democratic Party,(which is majority female), who have been held down in economic slavery and unreasoning fear for all these years by their Democrat "Leaders",very few of whom are women,and have been told by them they can't make it without their, "help",imagine if those women started saying ,"keep your subsistence level welfare checks and your abortion mills,I can make it on my own!", the Democratic Party would cease to exist! So, the Dems, out of fear for their own political survival and the need for a subservient , non questioning base,(look at what they have done throughout the years, to Blacks, Women, and now Hispanics ,fear mongering is the name , control is the game) ,will continue to ridicule Sarah Palin, (Facts? who needs facts?), and anyone else who they perceive as a threat to their machine, will get the same treatment by the Dems and their well paid, compliant, lapdogs in the media ,.....and Democratic women?, (or whoever the patsies of the day happen to be), They will continue to live in economic slavery and servitude to their political masters as long as the Dems can make it happen,or, for as long as the slaves let it happen.
What is she going to come up with next....that there are 57 states???? Oh sorry that one was allready done by a different jack a$$.
"You're grasping for straws when you cite a verbal flub from someone that obviously knows the actual number of states - and compare it to Palin's complete lack of knowledge about US history as if they are somehow equal in their ignorance.
One was a orator's mixup. Something quickly acknowledged and corrected. Palin's gaffe here is nothing like that."
You almost had people going like you know what you are talking about but we all see you are just an apologist for the Democratic Party & Obama.
Obama did say "I have been to 57 States and have one, no two more to go" And your reply is it was just a mixup? BTW it was NEVER CORRECTED by Obama's own mouth.
But as you can plainly see just like all the historians coming out that Palin did NOT get Paul Revere history wrong, she was correct.
Thanks for showing everyone you complete nonsense & liberal bias. The truth has no agenda & you don't know what the truth is.
a) Big difference between misspeaking and correcting onesself and getting history wrong, then defending your erroneous claim with pseudo-facts.
b) the main reason "Palin never ruined our country" is because she was not elected president. She never really had an opportunity.
All these misinformed libs. Do you realize Palin was correct and the lame stream media is bashing her falsely and you obamites are just echoing lies? Get more informed, your ignorance is showing! And Trig Pailn could do a better job than odumbo!
Try this on for size! news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20110606/us_ac/8596661_sarah_palin
No, she wasn't right. The fact that bells were ringing doesn't mean that Paul Revere, or even the people in charge of warning the town that the British were coming doesn't mean that they were meant as a warning.
Being captured and confessing something is not "warning the British".
And firing multiple warning shots into the air while riding on horseback with a musket is improbable, extremely difficult, and far too inconvenient to be of any practical value.
Palin wasn't right, but I'll give you this... If you stretch reality to the absolute brink, she's not 100% wrong. About 99% wrong, but not 100. There were bells, he did end up speaking to the British against his will, and there were likely warning shots fired when combat was about to commence.
She wasn't right. Period. She stated that part of Paul Reveres ride was to warn the British. Basically that says that one of the reasons he was doing this ride was to warn them. 100% wrong.
He also did not ring bells nor did he fire shots.
Since your "article" doesnt exist can you please explain to me how she was possibly right? If she were taking a test in school, she would have failed miserably.
obama corrected himself. this winch insists she's right. she is an idiot plain and simple. and all of her followers are idiot's to. are you one of her followers?
Has Palin ever corrected herself for a gaffe. Doesn't that tell you something about this women. I also ask her supporters to explain how Paul Reveres ride had anything to do with the 2ed Amendment. If history is arbitrary and open to everyones half bake interpretations why even bother with recording and studying it.
There are 50 states, Plus the District of Columbia, and territories Guam, American Samoa, Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands. The territories only participate in primaries and are not part of the Electoral College. The Marshall Islands are a US Protectorate.
Except with this idiot, when she screws up an word in the English language, the Oxford actually ADOPTS the word. The Oxford lost all credibility with me years ago when they keep trying to remain "relevent" by adding slang, made up Palin words etc. It really gets under my skin. So, now some rep state leg will try to adopt new history books with the new stated reason for Paul's ride...
Nobody pay attention to Roy Wilson. Just a troll who says everything to get a rise out of us. He really isn't worth the time to debate, because he seldom ever provides facts or links to facts.
MajorTom to ground control, I thought I was the one floating out in space......
Ah I see, the "Fix" News line up, let's cherry pick some bloopers of the POTUS and gloat over them. Just Brillant! Why don't you post links to all of President Bushs' gaffs and compare the list and see who wins that contest? DUH!
Considering that "Paul Revere's Ride" is one of the 1 or 2 things that most Americans know about the Revolution, how could she have gotten this damn thing wrong?
It's not just the 57 states gaffe Obama made..... this list of his blunders could literally go on for pages. For the sake of expediency here are just a very few of our President's gaffes....
"UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? It's the Post Office that's always having problems." –attempting to make the case for government-run healthcare, while simultaneously undercutting his own argument, Portsmouth, N.H., Aug. 11, 2009
"The Cambridge police acted stupidly." —commenting on a white police officer's arrest of black scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. at his home in Cambridge, Mass., at a news conference, July 22, 2009
"The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and inefficiencies to our health care system." --in remarks after a health care roundtable with physicians, nurses and health care providers, Washington, D.C., July 20, 2009
"It was also interesting to see that political interaction in Europe is not that different from the United States Senate. There's a lot of -- I don't know what the term is in Austrian, wheeling and dealing." --confusing German for "Austrian," a language which does not exist, Strasbourg, France, April 6, 2009
"No, no. I have been practicing...I bowled a 129. It's like -- it was like Special Olympics, or something." --making an off-hand joke during an appearance on "The Tonight Show", March 19, 2009 (Obama later called the head of the Special Olympics to apologize)
"I didn't want to get into a Nancy Reagan thing about doing any seances." --after saying he had spoken with all the living presidents as he prepared to take office, Washington, D.C., Nov. 7, 2008 (Obama later called Nancy Reagan to apologize)
"I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." -- defending his tax plan to Joe the Plumber, who argued that Obama's policy hurts small-business owners like himself, Toledo, Ohio, Oct. 12, 2008
Unfortunately his gaffes also include: Obamacare, illegal immigration, rising unemployment, more families on welfare and food stamps than ever before, quadrupling the deficit..... these gaffes are not funny and will continue to damage the country for a very long time! Even beyond 2012 when he will be replaced with a leader, not a politician full of rhetoric!
Well, I think she's about as smart as GWB, and he said some really stupid stuff, and we voted for him for a second term, so I think we should give her a chance. Sarah for President!!!
MikeD....YOu conservatives blew it when you got too too greedy with healthcare insurance and then all the young neocons on Wall Street took all that premium insurance payments and used it to gamble on high risk investments.
President Obama was correct the USPS is in trouble. UPS and Fedex are doing just fine. Anymore silliness?
It's not just the 57 states gaffe Obama made..... this list of his blunders could literally go on for pages. For the sake of expediency here are just a very few of our President's gaffes....
"UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? It's the Post Office that's always having problems." –attempting to make the case for government-run healthcare, while simultaneously undercutting his own argument, Portsmouth, N.H., Aug. 11, 2009
UPS and FedEx aren't really doing very bad. USPS (post office) is the one that is always having issues. The problem isn't that its government run. The problem is that they dont make enough money because no one sends items by mail anymore.
"The Cambridge police acted stupidly." —commenting on a white police officer's arrest of black scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. at his home in Cambridge, Mass., at a news conference, July 22, 2009
They did act stupidly...
"The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and inefficiencies to our health care system." --in remarks after a health care roundtable with physicians, nurses and health care providers, Washington, D.C., July 20, 2009
"The reforms we SEEK" They didnt get what they sought.
"It was also interesting to see that political interaction in Europe is not that different from the United States Senate. There's a lot of -- I don't know what the term is in Austrian, wheeling and dealing." --confusing German for "Austrian," a language which does not exist, Strasbourg, France, April 6, 2009
Austrian is a form of German. Its called Austrian-German. Its kind of like American English which is what people in America speak. Im not saying that he didnt actually mean German because I don't know, but he isn't as far off as Palin was with the Paul Revere thing.
"No, no. I have been practicing...I bowled a 129. It's like -- it was like Special Olympics, or something." --making an off-hand joke during an appearance on "The Tonight Show", March 19, 2009 (Obama later called the head of the Special Olympics to apologize)
While not politically correct, he isn't necessarily wrong.
"I didn't want to get into a Nancy Reagan thing about doing any seances." --after saying he had spoken with all the living presidents as he prepared to take office, Washington, D.C., Nov. 7, 2008 (Obama later called Nancy Reagan to apologize)
I dont know anything about this statement...
"I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." -- defending his tax plan to Joe the Plumber, who argued that Obama's policy hurts small-business owners like himself, Toledo, Ohio, Oct. 12, 2008
He says he thinks. That is an opinion. It is his opinion that it is good for everybody. Palin says that Paul Revere rang bells and fired shots... He didnt. That is fact.
Unfortunately his gaffes also include: Obamacare, illegal immigration, rising unemployment, more families on welfare and food stamps than ever before, quadrupling the deficit..... these gaffes are not funny and will continue to damage the country for a very long time! Even beyond 2012 when he will be replaced with a leader, not a politician full of rhetoric!
Obamacare is not as bad as some people seem to think and has helped a lot of people. It is also the same basic plan that republicans tried to pass years ago. Illegal immigration was an issue long before he became president. Unemployment was rising before he was elected. More families on welfare and food stamps is a consequence of the recession that started before he was elected president. Bush didnt really do a good job on the deficit either... (or any of the other issues you brought up)
In the first place, Paul Revere likely was not a fool and only a fool would inform the enemy of anything before an attack or the resulting defense. Sarah Palin got caught out being ignorant (again) and then turned to a ridiculous explaination (as always). I'm convinced that this country will someday have a female president, biut not this train wreck. All she is accomplishing is making it more difficult, by affirming a negative stereotype about women, for the next female politician who aspires to the white house. She really needs a big cup of "shut the hell up".
Candidate Obama's statement about "57 states" was quite clearly a slip of the tongue. There were 57 primary elections in locations like Puerto Rico, Washington DC, and American Samoa, in addition to the 50 states. So, in a sleep-deprived state he said "57 states" rather than "57 elections" and nit-picking conservatives have been ranting about it ever since. News flash: Barack Obama did and does know how many states we have in the union and when he makes a mistake he admits it. Sarah Palin never admits a mistake and she makes a lot of them. The McCain Palin campaign manager said of her preparation for the VP debates, "She doesn't know anything!" (source: "Game Change")
There is a vast difference between a slip of the tongue such as Obama's and a failure to grasp elementary school American history (Palin).
@ MajorTom: Heh, it is a good thing, but I weep for those who haven't figured it out by now. And I certainly hope they represent a small, small fraction of the country.
I do wish she would simply go away. Even her most rabid defenders are sitting this one out. Still, someone is still going to insist she is correct - that scares me!
JD-276988 - Why don't you ask that question of the liberal media. They have been whining about Ms. Palin not giving them a tour schedule or scheduling interviews since the tour started. The media for some reason hates Palin and in the last election were determined to defeat her. Any of you remember the other female who was actually running for president? She was kicking A and taking names until the media fell in love with Barack Obama and turned on her. Who knows, if it had not been for the media, we might be complaining about President Hilary Clinton now.
I agree the spotlight should not be on what an idiot does ...I am just thankful that McCain / Pailin lost the election .. Our country was screwed so bad under GWB it will take another 4 years to start into full recovery and a balanced budget will take 10 more years .. if the McCain / Palin team would have won we never would have been able to get even this far .. now people like Boehner and Ryan want to bring our country .. back to the cliff and push it over .. then the corporations and top 2% will have there country back .. with morons voteing for idiots like Palin our days of world leadership are numbered
The real issues is, and will continue to be, the sad, no, pathetic, fact that there are significant numbers of right wing morons who will find some justification in supporting this fool. America is truly doomed if the utter stupidity of some percentage of the population continues to expand as it has.
Conservatives seem unable to do simple economic math, they rewrite history, and they accept no responsibility for the mess they have made. They have however mastered the art of propaganda. Keep telling lies and stand in the way of progress. You've now got the moron vote, the fascist vote. the bigot vote, the fanatic vote . . . you can't lose.
Rick - the moron Palin, did everything she could during the 2008 election to bring attention to and have it forcus on her. She is the only reason the media follows her. And, if Hilary Clinton had won no doubt you'd be complaining about her. I'm guessing you'd complain about anyone who isn't Republican. Thank God we don't have McClain/Palin in power. We would have absolutely no chance of recovery if those two imbecilles were running things.
As one who votes mostly Republican, I have to say at this point that I fear the Democrats will do everything they can to make sure Sarah Palin gets the Republican nomination for President. It might be the best way to insure a Democratic win.
She's good lookin', but she's dumber than a box of rocks.
JD...Palin is a microphone mouth. A certified member of the "Spotlight On Me" brigade. If you don't pay attention to her, she slathers herself all over the place so you trip over her or that ever gaping maw of hers.
One thing she does prove is that she has never lived in the Northeast. Most of us who live in New England or Central Atlantic states live with our American history in a way Palin never can and never will. That's why some of these red states want to revise that history. They feel excluded from the earliest beginnings of this country. Anyone who has ever visited Nantucket, Cape Cod, Boston, Philadelphia, Trenton, Newport RI or Mystic CT, comes away with a sense of life in colonial days and the brilliance of George Washington during the Revolutionary War. If you haven't lived an entire lifetime among these historical places, you can't possibly know how often you encounter one or more reminders on a daily basis.
It's not just the "57 states" gaffe Obama has made during his first term..... the list of his blunders could literally go on for pages. For the sake of expediency here are just a very few of our President's gaffes....
"UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? It's the Post Office that's always having problems." –attempting to make the case for government-run healthcare, while simultaneously undercutting his own argument, Portsmouth, N.H., Aug. 11, 2009
"The Cambridge police acted stupidly." —commenting on a white police officer's arrest of black scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. at his home in Cambridge, Mass., at a news conference, July 22, 2009
"The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and inefficiencies to our health care system." --in remarks after a health care roundtable with physicians, nurses and health care providers, Washington, D.C., July 20, 2009
"It was also interesting to see that political interaction in Europe is not that different from the United States Senate. There's a lot of -- I don't know what the term is in Austrian, wheeling and dealing." --confusing German for "Austrian," a language which does not exist, Strasbourg, France, April 6, 2009
"No, no. I have been practicing...I bowled a 129. It's like -- it was like Special Olympics, or something." --making an off-hand joke during an appearance on "The Tonight Show", March 19, 2009 (Obama later called the head of the Special Olympics to apologize)
"I didn't want to get into a Nancy Reagan thing about doing any seances." --after saying he had spoken with all the living presidents as he prepared to take office, Washington, D.C., Nov. 7, 2008 (Obama later called Nancy Reagan to apologize)
"I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." -- defending his tax plan to Joe the Plumber, who argued that Obama's policy hurts small-business owners like himself, Toledo, Ohio, Oct. 12, 2008
Unfortunately his gaffes also include: Obamacare, illegal immigration, rising unemployment, more families on welfare and food stamps than ever before, quadrupling the deficit..... these gaffes are not funny and will continue to damage the country for a very long time! Even beyond 2012 when he will be replaced with a leader, not a politician full of rhetoric!
In making public gaffes, Obama could beat Palin with his tongue tied behind his back. Unfortunately as President, Elmer Fudd could do a better job than him.... Obama's record speaks for itself.... and his gaffes are also of public record.
Miked - and we could go on for books about the Palin/Bachmann mistakes. And, please, don't get me started on the gaffes Bush made. And, if you want to talk about administrative mistakes, no one has a corner on them like Bush - Iraq war; not finding Osama bin Laden (we don't really care about him anymore -2003); immigration (he had a bill to bring them to citizenship which he and McCain put together); rising unemployment; the economy going into a downward spiral; out of control healthcare costs; the increasing deficit; etc.
Because people still listen to her and believe her. Hell, she's not even running for president (yet), and she's got the most publicity going for her. And right now, she's skirting the FEC rules by not officially being in the race, but using PAC money to "go on a family vacation". And for the record, in 2010, SarahPAC, which is supposed to donate money to Republican candidates, took in $5.6m, and actually donated $461,000 to federal Republican candidates. Spending or pocketing the rest for herself.
I hate to disagree, but what is behind the facade is a dangerous a**hole; that she still has so many folks throwing money at her shows just how dangerous.
Seeing and listening to her makes me think of "trailer trash" trying to portray herself as the "intelligentsia". She comes across as "Roseanne" masquerading as a high society snob. But everytime she opens her mouth, her true status is confirmed. Remember McCain sending her to New York with his handlers to buy her thousands of dollars worth of clothes so that she coud "look" Vice Presidential? Well the old adage applied...no matter how much lipstick you put on a pig, you still have a pig. There is absolutely no way she'll run in 2012, she knows that sooner or later, she'll have to debate someone on live TV. At this point, a sixth grader would crush her in a debate, and anyone associated with her "campaign" would be painfully aware of that. She will continue to milk this, however, right up until she has to "sh!t or get off the pot". There ARE two things she excels at...media whoring and making herself rich. Pretending she's Presidential material and that she's intelligent or in any way valid on the national scene is the only way to keep herself in the spotlight. Especially since she doesn't have any more daughters old enough to pimp out on shows like "Dancing With The Stars".
Why do the liberals feel the need to throw insults and jokes at Palin? They are afraid, they are very frightened because if she isn't around to throw mud at then maybe they will have to start answering questions about why Obama, the neophyte President hasn't learned how to be a leader in the last 3 years!
They cannot attribute any good things he's done so far, nor can they explain his gaffes and blunders.... it is much easier to go after Palin and safer for them. What cowards liberals really are....! Can we really afford another 4 years of this crap? You won't ever get any answers to these questions from a liberal.... but boy can they talk trash about Palin! I have to thank her for exposing the liberal bias upon which they and the media feeds upon... like rats in a feeding frenzy.... all we can do is watch and smile!
Meanwhile the country continues to go down the toilet. 2012 is coming and we know the liberals, with help from Acorn will vote frequently (wink, wink) so the rest of us will have to work a little harder to stop that toilet from flushing! God help us! Oops, God is another trigger word the liberals will jump on.... look out!
"Why do the liberals feel the need to throw insults and jokes at Palin?"
followed by:
"They cannot attribute any good things he's done so far, nor can they explain his gaffes and blunders.... it is much easier to go after Palin and safer for them. What cowards liberals really are....! Can we really afford another 4 years of this crap? "
Im not a liberal, but my reason is that she makes it to easy... She should just not open her mouth. I kinda think maybe she does it on purpose for the attention...
Just what we need, another Bush-a-like, open mouth in public, insert foot. We do not need another president that makes this country out to sound like a fool. Bush made us suffer, and look ignorant, long enough.
Miked - if I were you I would try to focus attention away from all the morons the GOP is running too. But, you don't understand at all, do you? The GOP offers no answers - just jokes. And, liberals and Independents are not afraid of Palin. She adds humor to otherwise normal days. She is nothing but a joke - just like Gingrich, Bachmann, Santorum, Romney, etc........
Palin is a MORON--nothing else! Why does the press feel the need to cover her ignorance?
Because this idiot is talking about being the leader of the free world and we need to know what our potential president thinks or says. What would it be like if we elected this nutcase without knowing who she really is, like John McCain chose her before he really knew her. It wouldn't be good for our country.
Because it's funny, as well as sad. Too bad she ever got on the national stage. Thanks a bunch, Maverick.
She is the penultimate know-nothing, and seems proud of it. Scary and appalling that anyone could defend her. Palin with the nuclear football? Puleeze! She might decide she is *chosen* to intiate Armageddon.
Hey! Sarah Palin...Go visit the National Archives in Washington DC. Your stupidity will be proven easily by all of the earliest documents that the entire American Revolution was about taxation without representation. In fact, Mrs. Palin, how about you go to DC and spend some time studying Colonial history instead of trying to revise it?
She wants the American Revolution to somehow justify the current murderous glut of gun running in this country. Boy oh boy...would I love to see her do that when Revere was alive. That would have forever ended that NRA BS that they are a militia and that's what the 2nd Amendment is all about. Oh really? Done any studying on the early American militias and why they existed, Mrs. Palin?
Yeesh, taxpayers foot the bill for the education of this twit? Methinks she learned far more in the back seat of a car and the subject was anything but history.
Yopblog...Palin is a pathetic example of the extremes the righties will all go to when they are desperate for attention. Unfortunately, Palin is making a huge fool of herself and refuses to face that. Her life is insipid and she has no accomplishments of long term worth to take credit for. So her pathetic public tours are all she has.
Because whats the difference right? Revere wasn't an American warning the AMERICANS of invading British troops and to stand at the ready or flee... But was instead a red coat informing his British brothers to retreat because the Americans some how inexplicably knew they were coming. This woman's stupidity becomes her. And I must say SHAME on every news media outlet that covers her at all. A loser because she lost and lost it, shes a quitter who now try's to tell others in the job she QUIT how to do it because her quitting the job obviously qualifies her for it?...
She has proven time and again her complete and sheer stupidity. It is not as though this is an isolated incident but rather it is a line in a string of gaffs. All of her ideas from her run have proven to be more than lack luster but incomplete and Un-workable and her knowledge of foreign policy? There is none. Her true corruption is soon to come to light when we finally see the e mails that have dogged her thus far. For all of these reasons she hinders and hurts America. She does not give any kind of help idea or strength to this country but instead divides it at a moments notice. For what? She won't run. She can't run and the fact she sat down with loony tune bankrupt the kid over there eating pizza with a fork well?.... She knows what she can do with that over there. ; ]
If she is so awful, why do you care? You Libs should be trying to force her into the GOP nomination. I for one hope nobody runs against Current Management for the Democrat Nomination.
Satirical nonscence is a s follows. ; I know though right? Shes all like... Dog did it dog on it. I can do a bounty Hunter. Bristol, watch your mouth. [wasilly wink]. I m gonna do a bus tour to. I watch telivision I see whats hot. The Lame stream media just don't get it. I'm popular everywhere I go. I have a bus with me on it to prove it.
I must disclose that I to am a huge fan of bus tours. Gene Simmons you rock. Your tops kid. And no matter what they do I cant keep my eyes off you?!.. Anyhoo I shouldn't have said that. It didn't come out right.
You Libs should be trying to force her into the GOP nomination.
That's the idea. You know it's a winning scenario when even many Republican strategists admit a Palin vs. Obama election will definitely result in a second term for Obama.
I'm glad the press covers this kind of thing! If they didn't, how would we know what she was doing? I'm sure if this kind of crap didn't get covered, she'd have a much better shot at the white house.
I'm glad they do. She's hilarious and so are the idiots that bend over so far backwards to try and support her ignorant comments. I love reading Sarah Palin articles. Even more, I love reading comments made by Sarah Palin followers. What a hoot.
Seriously though, keep your enemies close and mark my words Sarah Palin is nothing less to free-thinking people.
6 deleted, John Galt 2112 grenade-trolling someone, possibly 'tools in the media and lefties who have a knee jerk reaction':
You are all base, frightened, shrill children who stomp your feet and hold your breath in denial of all reality just because you don't get your way. You are thieves of life and morality cloaked in virtue and you are exposed for all to see.
Come on. You made some points after that but this ruins it. You're suspended for a month for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
She may be a moron but there are people lining up to have her autograph their copy of her book and paying up to 6 figures to hear her rants. She's a brand name and it sells. I'd say she's playing the game pretty astutely and getting rich from it. You can't blame her for that. The morons are the people who pay attention to her, buy her book, watch her show, pump her ratings and take her seriously.
@ Andrew: There are countless examples of Americans with less than average intelligence. Just because the crazies come outta the woodwork to see another crazy, doesn't mean she has any legs to stand on.
Paul Revere's own words bad spelling and all but don't let the truth get in the way.
I observed a Wood at a Small distance, & made for that. When I got there, out Started Six officers, on Horse back,and orderd me to dismount;-one of them, who appeared to have the command, examined me, where I came from,& what my Name Was? I told him. it was Revere, he asked if it was Paul? I told him yes He asked me if I was an express? I answered in the afirmative. He demanded what time I left Boston? I told him; and aded, that their troops had catched aground in passing the River, and that There would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up. He imediately rode towards those who stoppd us, when all five of them came down upon a full gallop; one of them, whom I afterwards found to be Major Mitchel, of the 5th Regiment, Clapped his pistol to my head, called me by name, & told me he was going to ask me some questions, & if I did not give him true answers, he would blow my brains out. He then asked me similar questions to those above. He then orderd me to mount my Horse, after searching me for arms.
Revere had reason for concern that the colonists’ arms would be taken away as they questioned the location of the militia’s ammunition.
I must come to Palin's defense. It has been more than 2 years now since this woman appeared on the national scene. The news media and the general public have been all over her ever since. She is constantly pushed, or allowed access to, and within, areas of expertise which require at least, a working basic knowledge of a multiplicity of intertwined political and histotical data, past and present. The lady has no such knowledge or idea's relative to such, and obviously is absent the mental capability to grasp her deficiencies thereof, and like many of lower mental aptitude, she is happy to be the national dunce. I contend, we, who damn well know better, the media, especially "fox news", and the republican party, are being sorry as hell when we use this woman or anyone of like "lack of mental capacity" as the national fool. The fact she was Alaska's Governor tends to magnify the mean spirited exploitation. Let the lady find her way within her abilities, and within her natural and fitting elements.
Sailcat: All of us are many things. We learn and relearn as we go along. Life is fleeting, but the time is joyful and enriching. We are most surely in this together and should therefore, partake of the collective sweetness of individual brotherhood. Humbley and in brotherhood I sincerely thank you. Respectfully
Ask any tea partier, Bunker Hill was all about protecting all womens uterus's It was the shot of sperm heard round the world. I woner if Jay Leno would have her on his "jay walk" skit.? It would be a real hoot!
Why doesn't this chic take off that frumpy ass wig?
I continue to assert that Palin needs to take care of her children and stop masquerading around the country taunting us about her possible presidential bid.
Wow. Lets elect this person. Here is what she said:
"...he who warned, uh, the...the British that they weren’t gonna be takin' away our arms...uh, by ringin' those bells and um...makin' sure as he's ridin' his horse through town...to send those warning shots and bells...that, uh, we were gonna be secure and...and we were gonna be free...and we were gonna be armed." June 2, 2011
I wish someone in a redcoat would have had her aborted.
SHE WENT TO 4 YEARS OF HIGH SCHOOL AND 6 YEARS OF COLLEGE AND LEARNED NOTHING!!! steve schmidt was right when he said " she dosen't know anything. " she is an idiot and a narcissist.
Says a lot about the education system in the state of Idaho, doesn't it? Now you have the state eduction secratary wanting to do away with teachers and teaching the kids on computers.
Cut her some slack. She IS a part of the dumbed-down generation. I still think she is capable of doing something worthy of her abilities... like an actress for a douche commercial.
“Mitchell repeated Paul Revere’s warning that 500 New England men were mustering in Lexington. He told of the alarm bells and signal guns, and the volley of musket-fire near the Green….Others also remembered with vivid clarity this electrifying instant when they halted on the road, and Paul Revere’s warning reached them through the mouth of this highly excited captor, Major Mitchell.”
From “Paul Revere’s Ride” by the Brandeis University historian David Hackett Fischer, Oxford Univesity Press, 1994, Page 185
Palin's timing might be off and she failed to mention a few key events, but it is documented that Paul Revere was captured and questioned by Major Edward Mitchell who instructed that Revere be taken at gunpoint to Lexington. Revere did warned Mitchell that the people had been alerted and were taking up arms to make a stand. The British were spooked and released Revere in order to make haste. This set of circumstances is discussed here:
From "Paul Revere and the World He Lived In" by Esther Forbes, Pulitzer Prize winning author and Newberry Medal Winner, page 267
Paul Revere and the World He Lived In" by Esther Forbes, page 267: "When Major Mitchell had joined the main body of troops, the soldiers gathered around him to hear his story. "It was between 3&4 in the morning," Lieutenant Sutherland says, "he told us the whole country was Alarmed & had Galloped for their lives, or words to that purpose, and they had taken Paul Revierre but was obliged to lett him go after having cutt his girths and stirrups." Richard Pope, who seems to have been a non-commissioned officer also stood about listening to Major Mitchell's account, "The took three prisoners, one the noted Paule Revere, who assured them that the country was alarmed; that he saw the embarkation, which was then publick. This information was soon after confirmed by firing of alarum guns, the bells ranf, and the drums beat to Arms in concord, and were answered by all the villages Round."
The is a slight error here in the retelling, namely that Revere's saddle was cut. I attribute this to some forgetfulness of embellishment by by Richard Pope, the non-commissioned officer.
But here is an exerpt written by Revere himself about 23 years after his famous ride:
This letter is the transcript of the original manuscript held in the Manuscript Collection of Massachusetts Historical Society.
I observed a Wood at a Small distance, and made for that. When I got there, out Started Six officers, on Horse back, and orderd me to dismount;—one of them, who appeared to have the command, examined me, where I came from, and what my Name Was? I told him. He asked me if I was an express? I answered in the afirmative. He demanded what time I left Boston? I told him; and aded, that their troops had catched aground in passing the River, and that There would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up. He imediately rode towards those who stoppd us, when all five of them came down upon a full gallop; one of them, whom I afterwards found to be Major Mitchel, of the 5th Regiment, Clapped his pistol to my head, called me by name, and told me he was going to ask me some questions, and if I did not give him true answers, he would blow my brains out. He then asked me similar questions to those above. He then orderd me to mount my Horse, after searching me for arms. He then orderd them to advance, and to lead me in front. When we got to the Road, they turned down towards Lexington. When we had got about one Mile, the Major Rode up to the officer that was leading me, and told him to give me to the Sergeant. As soon as he took me, the Major orderd him, if I attempted to run, or any body insulted them, to blow my brains out. We rode till we got near Lexington Meeting-house, when the Militia fired a Voley of Guns, which appeared to alarm them very much. The Major inquired of me how far it was to Cambridge, and if there were any other Road? After some consultation, the Major Rode up to the Sargent, and asked if his Horse was tired? He answered him, he was--(He was a Sargent of Grenadiers, and had a small Horse)—then, said He, take that man's Horse. I dismounted, and the Sargent mounted my Horse, when they all rode towards Lexington Meeting-House.
Considering Palin was providing a candid comment without necessarily having the material right in front of her, she did hit amazingly close to the mark.
Of course, you can ignore the comments of Paul Revere, Esther Forbes a Pulitzer Prize winner and author of a Revere biography and a published university historian. But who's really the moron between all of you and Sarah Palin (hint: its not Palin).
So, on one hand, we have a former governor who is not a historian screwing up a few historical details of Paul Revere and on the other, we have a Harvard educated president who pronounces "corpsmen" as "corpse-men"...essentially, he can't read. And people give Obama a pass and call Palin dumb? Keep walking in lockstep, but the emperor still has no clothes!
Common Sense...OMG....too too too funny but so true. I agree. There is a hugely dumbed down generation out there. They rely far too much on what they see and read on history sites on the internet instead of the actual documents in government archives that are made public for their viewing. You ask anyone under the age of 50 what poem "one if by land and two if by sea, and I on the opposite shore will be" is part of and they give you a blank stare. They can tell you Brittany Spears last drunkosode and jailing or Snookie's last all nighter in the sack but they can't tell you who Longfellow is.
@nonkjo -- if you listen to the audio of Ms. Palin's statement about Paul Revere's ride, she stated: "he who warned the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms by ringin' those bells and making sure as he's ridin' his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were gonna be secure and we were gonna be free." Think her meaning is completely clear - that Revere, with warning shots and bells, was riding to warn the British. She was not talking about his capture and what occurred while he was held at gunpoint. Just because she stumbled upon "the mark" doesn't mean her intent or accounting of Paul Revere's ride is accurate. Even a blind pig finds an acorn once in a while.
Who's really the moron between those who find this woman's repeated gaffes and misstatements incredible (and ludicrous), and those who go to great lengths to defend her misstatements? (hint: not those who find them incredible)
Are you suggesting that the authors I quoted are not saying Revere warned the British?
I do not hold Palin to the standard of a history professor with a PhD who specializes in the American Revolution do I don't expect her to recite in detail an impromptu history of the war.
Were there bells? Yep. Were there gunshots? Yes (the devil is in the details though because the main issue is when were the shots heard.). Did Paul Revere warn the British? According to several scholars, yes (again, there are additional details necessary to paint a clear picture, but there is a body of research that says it did happen).
The funny thing is, you say she "stumbled on the mark" which I understand to mean you she was accidentally right? So what are you arguing about then, her delivery? That's pathetic!
Tell you what, as soon as you can explain how our president can fail to pronounce "corpsmen" from prepared remarks with the same level of interpretation and scrutiny and hateful vitriol, then I'll treat your opinion like it even matters!
@nonkjo -- if you're taking the trouble to reply, then it seems as though my opinion does matter.
I already stated what I meant. The people you quoted do say that Revere warned the British when he was captured and held at gunpoint, and I did not suggest otherwise. Ms. Palin, on the other hand, was clear that Paul Revere's ride (which occurred prior to his capture) was to warn the British. Capture and ride - 2 different things. 'Nuff said.
It's unfortunate that you think disagreeing with you or Ms. Palin, or re-purposing one of your own remarks, is "hateful vitriol." I don't hate Ms. Palin, nor did I speak of her with hate. For you to paint it otherwise says more about you than me.
What I find pathetic is your attempt to defend this woman. She did not have to go into detail about Paul Revere. The most she had to say was that he (Paul Revere) warned the colonists that the British were coming. Simple as that. Everyone in our generation learned this in elementary school.
She is so offensive to me. It is one thing to make a mistake, but to defend it is ridiculous. I cannot stand stupidity and lying. She is a master of both! I was hoping she would get the Republican nomination, but now I really hope that she doesn't. There has to be something redeeming about the Republicans, doesn't there?
There was someting redeeming about John McCain's speech when he conceded the 2008 election to President Obama. It was commendable. It's too bad for him that he didn't stand up to his party and select a qualified vice-presidential candidate.
It's sad. Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Eisenhower--they all must be turning in their graves at what the Republican party has become.
McCain would probably be President now if he would have stuck to his beliefs and had a different running mate. I think Sarah Palin did him in and people were terrified that she would be President if something happened to him.
Where are the smart Republican women like Elizabeth Dole or Christine Whitman? Why are only the idiots like Palin and Bachman getting the spotlight? Hell, McCain would have been better off having his wife run with him as Vice President, she is a hell of a lot smarter than Palin.
The reason politicians like Palin and Bachman (and Ryan, Boehner, Santorum, and even Trump) are popular in the Republican Party is people it is full of people who like simple answers to hard questions.
If it doesn't fit on a bumper sticker, it isn't true.
Mke Ten Although either way I would have never voted for Senator McCain. You are absolutely right! Had he chosen an intelligent running mate female or male he would have had a much, much better chance of winning. I do sincerely believe voters were afraid if they voted for him something might happen to him and she would be President. How scary the thought!
If McCain had gone against his party and named Lieberman as his VP he might have gotten many of the democrats that weren't under Obama's spell and who voted for Clinton. But a choice of Obama vs Palin ... Obama wins hands down.
McCain's being front runner for the White House was all a RNC set up. They never wanted McCain in the first place. They didn't really care if they won in 2008. Why? Take a look at the mess Bush and Cheney left. Can you really see Republicans taking blame for that one if McCain was elected? Can you really see Republicans making things better after they already made it worse?
I've always respected Senator McCain even when I don't always agree with him. He is the last of the honorable countrymen we have in this nation. He may not always be on the mark. But his country is his real first love. He's never really been the neoconservative that Boehner, McConnell, Perry, Walker or the rest of the Twerps of the GOP are.
But, the reality is that had McCain won, the country would have been done in by the GOP. You don't go from creating a mess to fixing it in a year or 2.
Even if McCain was elected, he'd still have had a Democratic majority Congress and Senate...that is what would have done him in... That was one of Bush's yokes.
but McCain could and had in the past reached across the isle and worked with the other side. Most of his GOP brethren wont even give the other side the time of day much less work with them.
You can't blame Palin because she doesn't know American history. She only wants to be President of the United States. Is knowing American history a qualification?
He didn't even think it was important how many states there are in the United states.
To: Laurie Kellman and the rest of the bedwetters in the left leaning press,
This is utter nonsense and a pathetic attempt to bash Sarah Palin. I took her statement to say that Americans were taking a stand. You are borderline deranged or the person you work for really has a hard on for Palin. Either way, these types of nonsense stories have become tiresome and only appeal to the brain dead sycophants of Obama. It's no wonder she won't talk to you people.
American history is no longer in our schools, when I was in school we had to take American history and in high school Americanism vs. Communism. Most in universities today can't even tell you if George Washington live in the White House. and by the way, he never did
Doug, doug, doug... come on now pleezzz. You know that was simply a slip of the tongue that President Obama had after hours of grueling campaigning. He admitted right away that he make a mistake. Palin makes up her own version of history and so does her "sister" Bachman and most of the right wing. If you want to talk about teaching American History, slavery was downplayed in my history classes and the most I ever learned about Black History was from listening to Stevie Wonder songs! Grow up. She is an idiot and knows nothing. She quit on the people of Alaska mid-term so she could do exactly what she is doing, making millions off of numbskulls like you. Let me guess, you are about 60 or so, white, probably bald and have a hard on for her. Admit it! And, "you people." We are fellow Americans Doug. The reason she doesn't want to talk to us is because we ask challenging questions like "what magazines do you read on a regular basis." LMAO
Yes, a basic knowledge of American history is necessary for a presidential "candidate", especially someone like her who considers themselves a "true American". Oh, by the way, Hardcoffee, I don't know where you went to high school, but in my HS our American history courses consisted of a lot more than "Americanism" (I assume you mean capitalism) vs. Communism. Also, American history is taught in EVERY high school, as in most states (if not all) it's a required course for graduation.
Doug, My Mom always say's " Actions speak louder than words" that's why I'll proudly be voting for President Obama again. I'll rub in what 2OldDude wisely said above:
Obama got OBL, Bush sat chewing his lip when he was told about 9-11. Sarah was the mayor of a hick town in AK. That's history.
@Hardcoffee American History is still taught in our schools (albeit under a different moniker; U.S. History) and it is in fact a requirement to graduate. Lol All is not as hopeless as you thought!
The more pervasive problem is that the right wing makes up many 'facts' and even when proven wrong, like Palin, refuses to recant or admit the mistakes and falsehoods. If you watch her face you will see that even as she spoke she was struggling to speak and out of her depth of knowledge.
When you can never admit you made a mistake you must continue in wrong directions once you start going down a bad road.
These are not some pie-in-the-sky polls. These are articles covering events which will have a direct impact on Americans. Not favorable if you're the incompetent heading up the show.
Here, this is for you. It reminds me of the Obots here on the vine.
Julie ...every area of this country has its history. But, Palin wants to reinvent where this country's history began. Anyone who has ever visited Massachusetts knows where that bell tower Longfellow referred to in his poem, "The Midnight Ride of Paul Revere". Next Palin will be saying there was no Betsy Ross, John Hancock or Benjamin Franklin. That's unnecessary revisionist history with a backroom agenda.
It's one thing to reinvent history for yourself. But it's entirely another to try to reinvent it for people who live in the places where this history took place. I live just a few miles shy of the Battle of Monmouth and the barracks of George Washington in NJ.
Doug Ponders - when you consider all the idiots and morons the GOP has running, President Obama will be re-elected in 2012. He is the best there is and is doing a good job with the mess Bush left. But, of course, no GOPer ever admits that Bush did anything wrong or that anyone is having to clean up his mess. Get a life!
ewent, Betsy Ross was real but her part in American history is nill. The story of her making the flag is fabricated. There are people who think Benjamin Franklin was president.
Factual and ACTUAL history of Paul Revere's ride is not simply what is in the poem. There were more than just that one "ride". The city of Boston had a warning system of sorts...wherein people fired guns and rang bells to be heard throughout as warnings and alerts. And the intention of the British was to confiscate the rebels gunpowder, making the rebels unable to defend against them. Revere did in a sense warn the British that the rebels were ready for them and would not be defeated.
SO...now who're the blithering idiots? Maybe those people, including myself, until I looked it up, who got their "history" from a poem??
I got my history from the several months of my life spent on studying the American Revolution. Thats what they teach when you grow up miles from where Paul Reveres ride took place. Palin said that it was Reveres intention to warn the British. It wasn't. He was captured. That is where she was way off. Also, I didnt have to research to find out that he was captured and ended up telling the British under stress. As I stated before, we learned this info in school.
my oh my!!!! if she had mentioned the new green lantern movie she would have been in the ballpark but she said he was "a ringin them bells and letting people know" goodness gracious lady can you embarrass yourself anymore?
Aggie - Paul Revere did NOT ring any bells or fire any shots. I repeat. He did NOT ring any bells or fire any shots.
"He who warned the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms by ringing those bells, and makin' sure as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be sure and we were going to be free, and we were going to be armed."
This is NOT what happened. He did NOT fire shots or ring bells. He did warn the British, after being captured.
His intention was not to warn the British. She says that was his intention. It wasnt. Period. He did after being captured. He did not purposely get captured so as to divulge that information.
Sarah Palin is the cheapest entertainment available! It's amazing...I don't even have to pay the exorbitant fees at the movie theater to get this kind of laugh though I may start making popcorn before reading the news...
Name one, Dave. All I see are a lot of reasonable people taking exception with Palin's fast-and-loose approach to fabricating events in American history to validate her political views.
Wrong again, little man! I personally would love to see Sarah run for president against Obama in 2012. She would be humiliated at the polls, of course, but it would give the Republican Party the opportunity to shed itself of its Tea Baggers and right-wing religious extremists and reform itself into a real political party again.
No matter what, though, Palin doesn't have a snowball's chance. It will be Obama by a landslide in '12. Read 'em and weep, Dave.
I agree. If by some wild chance she is elected President, we will be going to hell in a hand-basket. How can Tea Party folks think she is electable?
Well think about it, that is the kind of mentality, ignorance, and stupidity they support and advocate for, those are the Tea Baggers for you. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!
For a while, I wanted her to run for presidency. But then I realized how many idiots would vote for her, no matter how stupid she is (another Bush, but much bigger scale, she's much stupider than him) I am afraid for a country that would actually vote for her as president. There are enough idiots where it may actually happen...
I don't know what is more frightening, how stupid she is, or how many people actually follow her and believe her gibberish. If she is elected president, I am moving abroad.
I will also move abroad. Its perfect timing because my husband will be PCSing in March after the election. If she is elected will be sure to pick something overseas. He will be stationed there for 3 yrs. I dont think she will last 3 yrs. She couldnt even finish her term as governor. What would make anyone think she can finish her term as president?
She might praise Mussolini for making the trains run on time, or that like the former owner of the Cincinnati Reds once said, Hitler, was good in the beginning.
"Howard Dean, the liberal former Democratic National Committee chairman, believes that former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin could defeat President Obama in 2012."
Well nooo kidding, a lib finally figured it out. BAH BYE OBOZO
@Dave: Howard Dean, and the rest of the Democratic Party strategists, get down on their knees and pray every night that they can get enough Republicans to believe that. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Dr. Dean picked up the tab for the pizza party Sarah Palin and Donald Trump had just for the photo ops of them together. Unfortunately, with the Donald on the sidelines, the next best scenario for Democrats is the dynamic duo of Sarah and Michelle. So, please keep those contributions coming to both of them ... it wouldn't shock me in the least to see Obama supporters contributing to them as well.
Maybe she should be given a test before being allowed to run. Republicans keep pushing for voters to take a test before being allowed to vote. It appears that many wannabe Presidential Candidates need to be taking a test.
I am a Ph.D in American History and my main area of study is in the American Revolution. Sarah Palin is totally off base in her comments and I thank god that she doesn't teach children .
Dan Hackett Fischer is a Warren Professor of History at Brandeis University.
Did John Galt (sic) misquote the passage from Paul Revere's Ride? Did Professor Fischer make up this passage or was it a true account of the event?
Sarah Palin makes me cringe but from my readings I know that 'historians' have been known to jump to more implausible conclusions than the one she presented.
At least she had a supposedly scholarly basis (Paul Revere's Ride) for her opinion, a basis of which probably the vast majority of this board was unaware,
Did John Galt (sic) misquote the passage from Paul Revere's Ride? Did Professor Fischer make up this passage or was it a true account of the event?
Sarah Palin makes me cringe but from my readings I know that 'historians' have been known to jump to more implausible conclusions than the one she presented.
Does not your second paragraph quoted answer the questions of your first?
While history is not a science (peer reviewed), there is often consensus to at least the basics of events. What palin said doesn't even come close and while the quote above you refer to could (COULD) lend slight credence to a PORTION of what Palin said. It by no means gives her anything reasonable to hold onto. She flubbed it. She flubbed it badly. And she has not the common sense to "clarify" (correct) her statement. Palin isn't fit to manage a 7-11.
You can question every historians facts to defend Palin but we all know she was making up her version, it was not based on any purported facts (except he did ride a horse).
She is a good example of 'it is better to remain silent and let people think you a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.' If it wasn't for her hunger for fame and money I think she would be back in Wassilla annoying the natives there.
You also have a seemingly blatant hatred for any and everything Republican. I by no means support nor like Sarah Palin, but it would do better on your part to check facts. Paul Revere did in fact "warn the British", but it was in essence a threat of sorts. Not a heads up. So you're a bit off base with your comments, sir or Dr...or whatever.
Herestwocents- Paul Revere DID NOT warn the British. You would do well to read history instead of trying to make a total screw up by Sarah Palin anythign close to palitable.
Well Tom, it seems there is agreement among people, even coming from Revere himself! Here are some published folks...Fisher again because you love him (and because you'd rather avoid his words by calling him a right wing shill). I've also included an excerpt from a Revere historian who has won the Pulitzer Prize and Newberry Medal. I'm going to trust them until you can point me to your research into the subject (or hell, point me at your doctoral thesis and prove you really have a PhD and you just aren't pretending!). The Fisher book is pretty comprehensive, and has over 50 pages of bibliography! Oh, but he's just a shill, right? YOU'RE a better authority, right?
“Mitchell repeated Paul Revere’s warning that 500 New England men were mustering in Lexington. He told of the alarm bells and signal guns, and the volley of musket-fire near the Green….Others also remembered with vivid clarity this electrifying instant when they halted on the road, and Paul Revere’s warning reached them through the mouth of this highly excited captor, Major Mitchell.”
From “Paul Revere’s Ride” by the Brandeis University historian David Hackett Fischer, Oxford Univesity Press, 1994, Page 185
Palin's timing might be off and she failed to mention a few key events, but it is documented that Paul Revere was captured and questioned by Major Edward Mitchell who instructed that Revere be taken at gunpoint to Lexington. Revere did warned Mitchell that the people had been alerted and were taking up arms to make a stand. The British were spooked and released Revere in order to make haste. This set of circumstances is discussed here:
From "Paul Revere and the World He Lived In" by Esther Forbes, Pulitzer Prize winning author and Newberry Medal Winner, page 267
Paul Revere and the World He Lived In" by Esther Forbes, page 267: "When Major Mitchell had joined the main body of troops, the soldiers gathered around him to hear his story. "It was between 3&4 in the morning," Lieutenant Sutherland says, "he told us the whole country was Alarmed & had Galloped for their lives, or words to that purpose, and they had taken Paul Revierre but was obliged to lett him go after having cutt his girths and stirrups." Richard Pope, who seems to have been a non-commissioned officer also stood about listening to Major Mitchell's account, "The took three prisoners, one the noted Paule Revere, who assured them that the country was alarmed; that he saw the embarkation, which was then publick. This information was soon after confirmed by firing of alarum guns, the bells ranf, and the drums beat to Arms in concord, and were answered by all the villages Round."
The is a slight error here in the retelling, namely that Revere's saddle was cut. I attribute this to some forgetfulness of embellishment by by Richard Pope, the non-commissioned officer. I also want to note that on page 186 of Fishers' book describes another retelling of, 'a "very genteel man" who warned the officers in the van that 600 men were waiting for them in Lexington" and says the mans horse was confiscated by a Lieutenant Adair.
But here is an exerpt written by Revere himself about 23 years after his famous ride:
This letter is the transcript of the original manuscript held in the Manuscript Collection of Massachusetts Historical Society.
I observed a Wood at a Small distance, and made for that. When I got there, out Started Six officers, on Horse back, and orderd me to dismount;—one of them, who appeared to have the command, examined me, where I came from, and what my Name Was? I told him. He asked me if I was an express? I answered in the afirmative. He demanded what time I left Boston? I told him; and aded, that their troops had catched aground in passing the River, and that There would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up. He imediately rode towards those who stoppd us, when all five of them came down upon a full gallop; one of them, whom I afterwards found to be Major Mitchel, of the 5th Regiment, Clapped his pistol to my head, called me by name, and told me he was going to ask me some questions, and if I did not give him true answers, he would blow my brains out. He then asked me similar questions to those above. He then orderd me to mount my Horse, after searching me for arms. He then orderd them to advance, and to lead me in front. When we got to the Road, they turned down towards Lexington. When we had got about one Mile, the Major Rode up to the officer that was leading me, and told him to give me to the Sergeant. As soon as he took me, the Major orderd him, if I attempted to run, or any body insulted them, to blow my brains out. We rode till we got near Lexington Meeting-house, when the Militia fired a Voley of Guns, which appeared to alarm them very much. The Major inquired of me how far it was to Cambridge, and if there were any other Road? After some consultation, the Major Rode up to the Sargent, and asked if his Horse was tired? He answered him, he was--(He was a Sargent of Grenadiers, and had a small Horse)—then, said He, take that man's Horse. I dismounted, and the Sargent mounted my Horse, when they all rode towards Lexington Meeting-House.
Considering Palin was providing a candid comment without necessarily having the material right in front of her, she did hit amazingly close to the mark.
Of course, you can ignore the comments of Paul Revere, Esther Forbes a Pulitzer Prize winner and author of a Revere biography and a published university historian. But who's really the moron between all of you and Sarah Palin (hint: its not Palin).
So, on one hand, we have a former governor who is not a historian screwing up a few historical details of Paul Revere and on the other, we have a Harvard educated president who pronounces "corpsmen" as "corpse-men"...essentially, he can't read. And people give Obama a pass and call Palin dumb? Keep walking in lockstep, but the emperor still has no clothes!
Tom....you and Sarah are both wrong....the Revolutionary war was about the British killing all off the dinosaurs....at least that's what they told me when I got my PH.D from the local community college.
She may not be teaching children directly, but she is teaching too many people that there's nothing wrong with fuzzy thinking and playing loose with the facts. Apparently details aren't important to Palin but that whatever' attitude will undermine America.
We were once the great manufacturing giant; now we find that others have refined products invented here and are doing well, making them for less. This nation needs quality thinking and quality education to pioneer the frontiers of the 21st century. We need people with ideas and the ability to critique their ideas/work. And it's scary to think of the number of people who support Palin's antics and admire her; for them she is a role model.
Unfortunately, she is someone who can't admit a mistake even when it is pointed out to her. Imagine Palin in one-on-one diplomatic talks; her counterpart leaves understanding an agreement has been reached only to discover Palin has restated the terms in Palinisms. This woman simply doesn't know that she does know and obviously is unable to correct mistakes since she does not acknowledge them. That's arrogance; that's mind boggling. And it sends the wrong message/lesson to her supporters, their children and their children's children.
I'm not suggesting anything. I am simply showing that a warning from Revere to the British actually happened! Professor Fisher and Esther Forbes (a Pulitzer Prize winner) described Revere's post-capture interaction withe the British as a warning. I just quoted them. His intent when he jumped on the horse is irrelevant. According to the authors, Major Mitchell referred to it as a warning! Don't take my word for it, Google it! Google books has actual scans of the books. Read it yourself!
Why is it so hard for you to accept that even as he was being held at gunpoint, Paul Revere can still say, "We've got 500 men waiting for you at Lexington!"
I think the real issue here is you are too invested in your argument to simply say, "Wow, I didn't know that actually happened!" You seem to place a higher priority on bashing Palin than acknowledging scholarly research that supports what she said.
Sarah Palin is not a historian yet people who dislike her want to hold her to the standards of a history professor. Did she flub some details? Sure she did. But the details she screwed up are so obscure that I cannot blame her for messing them up in an impromptu discussion. Like I said earlier, we have a president who cannot pronounce the word "corpsmen" in prepared remarks and i didn't hear one tenth of the nasty name calling that I do when it comes to something Palin says. That's hypocrisy.
People have a problem with her saying the Revere warned the British. There are scholars who say Revere warned the British of what awaited them in Lexington. Whether she was mistakenly correct in what she said or if she actually knew, it doesn't change the fact that sh was correct!
And yet, she has held a job longer than Currnt Management with the one glaring exception of his current position. You have to hold a job for at least 6 months to collect unemployment. If it wasn't for the 2008 election, he'd have never been able to collect it.
As for being an ignoramus...As ObiWan Kenobi once said:"Who's the more foolish? The fool, or the fool that follows him?"
The word revolution in "American Revolution" is capitalized. When it is used alone (the Revolution) to mean the American Revolution, it still gets capitalized. Proper noun. Name of specific person, place or thing...
Your God is capitalized. Other people's gods often aren't, but usually they don't seem to mind.
Three guys went off to "every Middlesex village and farm" to rouse the militia. William Dawes and Samuel Prescott made it all the way, but as everyone here knows, Paul Revere got caught.
It was not their intention to warn the British, but when he was caught it makes sense that he would mention it.....
I am not a historian. I do not have a PhD in anything. I did teach elementary school for close to 40 years and the American Revolution for more than half of those years. A teacher learns a LOT in that amount of time. And I know for sure I hope my students do not emulate Sarah Palin -- I am in agreement with Wisconsin Voter!
nonkjo ... wrong!!!!Between 9 and 10 pm on the night of April 18, 1775, Joseph Warren told Revere and William Dawes that the king's troops were about to embark in boats from Boston bound for Cambridge and the road to Lexington and Concord. Warren's intelligence suggested that the most likely objectives of the regulars' movements later that night would be the capture of Adams and Hancock. They did not worry about the possibility of regulars marching to Concord, since the supplies at Concord were safe, but they did think their leaders in Lexington were unaware of the potential danger that night. Revere and Dawes were sent out to warn them and to alert colonial militias in nearby towns.
Thank Goodness for your comment. Sadly many uneducated and gullible people will believe Sarah Palin. I found her senseless attempt to rewrite our History revolting!
I really, really hope she gets the Repug nomination. I can think of nothing more entertaining that to watch that idiot have to debate President Obama. Then again, it probably wouldn't matter to her much that she would end up looking like an even bigger baffoon. She never let little things like the fact get in her way. I would love to be able to quote the great Tip O'Neill to her, "You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts." Well, she apparently doesn't care. Whenever she needs to back up her opinion she just invents facts and then has then delivers them with a straight face as if they were plainly obvious. What I wonder is if she genuinely believes the idiocy that gushes from her mouth, or does she know she's full of BS and thinks that she is just pulling one over on us.
Tom is obviously lying about his achievements people. In previous comments on other articles within the past two months he stated in one instance, that he is a renowned special ed teacher, and in another states he's a urologist.
Good god, people see the amount of ignorant upvotes he has and how the sheep follow en masse. 'Majority rules' I guess.
Don't kid yourself. If you've earned your Ph.D. in History in the past 50 years, chances are that you really don't know what the true history of America is. People have been re-writting history, re-writting textbooks, to fit their own agenda. What the textbooks say and what the first account sources say are becoming two very different stories. Chances are that you have a Ph.D. in Liberal Propaganda.
I view her as a cartoon character. The problem is that unless she steps away from the next presidential election, she could become a spoiler for the real republican contender, Mit Romney. In order for Romney to have any chance at all, the clowns like Donald Trump and Sarah Palin need to get out of the picture. But I doubt Palin cares about that. She's so into herself that she could care less if it costs the Republicans the next election.
Totally agree. I'm from MA & although Romney was a one note absentee governor, he did give us a fantastic healthcare system that continues to work well and he was a qualified politician. I pray that her bravado doesn't prevent qualified candidates from even stepping in, let alone winning. I'm a Dem, but there's always a chance that the GOP will win & if they do, I want someone who's qualified to run the country.
"She's so into herself that she could care less if it costs the Republicans the next election."... Very true Ted. She has never seemed to care that she lost them the last election, so why should anyone expect her to care about the next one(s). Keep up the good work Sarah!
nkjo - Palin's remark is almost as funny as the time Vice President Dan Quayle corrected an elementary school student for mispelling Potato(e). I remember too the scramble by Quayle's spin master's to put doubt into the minds of the American public that he was speaking of the alternative spelling. Your gal is Funny! Keep'm coming!
She knows all about Paul Revere. Once she saw " one of them state quarters". Sara Palin, Ron Paul, Pawlenty, Ryan etc are the best weapons the DEMS have!
I certainly hope she does exactly that. My hope is that she wins the Repug nomination then President Obama becomes the first President since George Washington to carry every state in the Union.
I may have voted for McCain if it wasnt for Palin... Nope, my vote went to Obama. If she runs for presidency I will again vote for the other candidate...
I gonna get a shirt with " I <3 Sarah Palin" on the front and "Damn right I'm a Democrat" on the back. She's adorable!!!! She is not too fast on her feet, but she's funny.
Yes Sara Palin is as dumb as a brick,with the I.Q. of a rock, and the thought of her with a gun in her hands sends chills up and down my spine and her view of "We need to help our North Korean allies" makes me shake my head in disbelief and I would never vote her for political office in a million years. I will say one good thing about her, SHE SURE CAN FILL OUT A T-SHIRT !!!!!!!!! I am a man and I refuse to apologize for it.
No you fool. It was fought over Communism. The "red coats" wanted to take away our guns and tax us so they could redistribute the wealth and make everyone equal. George Washington said "Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death" ,was elected President and started the Revolitionary War. He sent Benjamin Franklin to France but the French surrendered to the Germans because they were a bunch of socialist cowards,and Benjamin Franklin was forced to fly back to America on a kite in the middle of a thunder storm.
The revolution was fought so rich slave owners could keep their slaves, so the colonists could have British army protection without paying anything for it and so the colonists could continue to slaughter the Indians and steal their land. In violation of treaties that England signed with the various Indian tribes and France.
Historian Robert Calhoon wrote in 2000, concerning the proportion of Loyalists to Patriots in the Thirteen Colonies:
Historians' best estimates put the proportion of adult white male loyalists somewhere between 15 and 20 percent. Approximately half the colonists of European ancestry tried to avoid involvement in the struggle — some of them deliberate pacifists, others recent immigrants, and many more simple apolitical folk. The patriots received active support from perhaps 40 to 45 percent of the white populace, and at most no more than a bare majority.
Britain did not expect the colonies to contribute to the interest or the retirement of debt incurred during its wars, but they did expect a portion of the expenses for colonial defense to be paid by the Americans. Estimating the expenses of defending the continental colonies and the British West Indies to be approximately £200,000 annually, the British goal after the end of this war was that the colonies would be taxed for £78,000 of this amount. The colonists objected chiefly on the grounds not that the taxes were high (they were low) but that they had no representation in the Parliament. Parliament insisted it had the right to levy any tax without colonial approval, to demonstrate that it had authority over the colonies
Palin is certainly not a genious but I am not sure she is so dumb; I think she is self-centered, self-promoting and loving the attention but when it comes to these stupid remarks, I think that a combination of laziness and arrogance are to blame: she is too lazy to educate herself and arrogant enough to believe the facts don't matter
I think you pretty much said it all. I think you are so right and she laughs all the way to the bank and we talk about her all the time no matter what she says and does. IT WORKS. This seed is just more proof of that.
Sarah Palin likers are a perfect example of why the US political scene is in the toilet. No other country on the planet would vote for morons who can't put together a sentence to lead their nation. Some of you vote for someone because you think they're funny, or like the way they look, or because they agree on ONE issue--the rest of the country be damned. That's pure selfishness, arrogance, and stupidity. You like sarah stupid, put her picture on your wall.You people think you're voting for class president of the 6th grade.
You don't have to like Barack Obama, but he's far and away one of the most intelligent presidents we've ever had, he was knowledgeable about world issues before he became president as well as in tune with the MAJORITY of the people in this country, not the wealthy few. You won't agree, but that doesn't change those realities. Other countries and their leaders respect him for all the right reasons. He has done a good job with the twisted up wreckage of a country that dubya left for him.
It says everything there is to say about the repubs that the party won't distance itself from such a joke as sarah stupid. The repubs just want to be in office, they don't care what qualifications the person may have or lack. That's because whatever office it is, it's the wealthy few and the corporations that actually hold sway. The moron is just their placeholder. That wasn’t always the case, but it certainly has been for awhile now.
Palin is an absolute idiot! What makes things even more scary are their are even bigger idiots out there who ridiculously think highly of her and actually want her to be the next president.
"Sarah Palin is an idiot". That's a very trendy thing to say. How easily some are manipulated by the media into being uninformed mouthpieces.
In point of fact, Sarah Palin was correct in every detail of her comments on the events that occured before the battles of Lexington and Concord. A brief look at Widipedia under "Paul Revere" and "Old North Church" will verify this (I have parsed the pertinent parts on a later posts).
Thanks for the catch wildhorse, I hadn't had my morning cup of java when I posted that. I'm always getting after my children for correct spelling, so I will admit I goofed.
Let me point out just two things about Sarah Palin to argue my point that the word idiot is appropriate: 1) She couldn't even complete one term as Governor of Alaska. 2) She goes on to do reality t.v.
I can only conceive of 2 reasons (both rather wild) why she would choose to do this. (1) She wants an easy 'reason' for not running for president, and will blame 'lamestream media' for having 'distorted' this episode and 'blown it out of proportion'. (2) It keeps her name in the media, and ever since her stint as McCain's VP she has recognized the opportunity to turn politics into income. She perhaps is strategically capitalizing on every criticism of her, so she purposely precipitates criticism trusting that she'll remain idolized by people who don't like such criticism of their heroine.
Correct me if I'm wrong but did Obama finish off his first term as a US Senator? I'm no fan of Palin but I think the attacks, and this article for that matter are completely unwarranted.
Palin resigned her office as governor because she was spending most of her time responding to official investigations into her conduct as governor of Alaska. In contrast, Obama resigned as Senator to run for president. There is a big difference between the two events.
From the Wikipedia article on The Resignation of Sarah Palin:
"Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her..."
First cav , kind of like Huckabee playing bass for Ted Nugent on his show . They were doing "Cat Scratch Fever". Are you familiar with his body of work. Including bedding obviously under age girls. In 1978, Nugent began a relationship with seventeen-year-old Hawaii native Pele Massa. Due to the age difference (he was 30) they could not marry so Nugent joined Massa's parents in signing documents to make himself her legal guardian, an arrangement that Spin magazine ranked in October 2000 as #63 on their list of the "100 Sleaziest Moments in Rock".Didn't Bush have mega doper Ozzy Osborne at a event? More family values BS from the Senator Larry Craig bunch! You remember gay BJ in public boy don't you?
i cant understand why when anyone says anything about obama, that they always want to bring up someone else.... We were talking about obama not 15 other people... obama is supposed to be president of the united states, and is supposed to act like a president, not some slease ball ghetto thug entertaining people of his own class.
Just an FYI... This article is about Palin. Not Obama...
Are you calling me a liberal democrat? I have never called her a whore or a slut. Just a moron or an idiot. I am NOT a liberal democrat. I think for myself. Just because I don't like Palin, doesn't mean that I like Obama. It also doesn't mean that I am a liberal democrat. It means that I dont like this one particular person, who happens to be republican. I would hate her just as much if she were a democrat. I don't like dumb people, especially in office. Just because I dont like Palin, because I can actually see how dumb she really is, doesnt mean I am not republican. If someone is dumb as dirt, why would you want them running the country? I promise you, there are plenty of republicans who don't like her. They consider her an embarrassment to their party.
Palin is not smarter. Have you even heard some of the @!$%# that she comes up with? She thought that Russia was attacking the US. If she is wrong about something, she should apologize for being wrong. Not spin more crap and make herself sound stupider. At least Obama came up with a good understandable reason why he said 57 states (which is the same thing I thought of when he said that) She twists the truth to make her right, when she just makes herself even more wrong. When McCain announced his run for presidency, I immediately thought, I'm voting for him! Then he announced his VP. I lost all respect for him after that. I did not vote for McCain simply because I did not want Palin in office. I don't vote for people just because they are republican or democrat. I vote for who I think would be better in office. I do not think Palin is good for anything (except a good laugh) and so did not vote for them. I think for myself and decided that I did not want Palin to have any power of the country. If McCain had chose anyone else, I probably would have voted for him.
I know that about 20% of the people in this country absolutely love you and think you would be a great president. As impressive as that number is, there are many more that, to put it plainly, don't think you are smart enough to be President. Fortunately, there is a very easy way to find out who is right and who is wrong. Take an IQ test. You don't have to make the results public, but I would hope that if your IQ turns out to be much lower than what you thought it should be, you would please do us all a favor and exit the political arena. If on the other hand, your IQ test shows that you are as smart as you think you are, then please continue doing what you are doing. Nobody but you needs to know the results.
Sincerely,
A Republican for several decades until the 2008 Presidential election.
Although I like your post & you nailed it when you wrote "as smart as you THINK you are", I have point out that the bad part about an IQ test. I know a few IQ geniuses out there that have absolutely no common sense and have a hard time functioning outside of books and their field of study. Gullible doesn't even begin to describe them when trying to function within society. Palin only thinks she's smart & as for common sense.....none! Doing a reality show is proof she has neither.
Sarah Palin IS a "smart" woman...as evidenced by her new found fame and fortune. Sarah Palin is also an extremely IGNORANT person...as evidenced by her apparent narrow mindedness and superficiality.
I think we would all be surprised by how well Palin would do on an IQ test. I mean, to have gone so far, knowing so little, she must have something going for her.
As the Redneck Comedy Tour says, "You can't fix stupid." But at the same time, you can't fix ignorant if the ignoramus is proud of her lack of knowledge.
Palin is worse than stupid. Stupid people can't help it. Palin choses to appear stupid because her agenda has nothing to do with knowledge. Palin will always promote her agenda of the rich getting richer at the expense of the poor. That human decency and American history do not support her, is all the more reason to be ignorant of the facts, they would just get in the way.
Trying to take healthcare away from disadvantaged Americans and the elderly, blaming Unions for wanting their pensions that her buddies on Wall Street stole from them, and waging war on immigrants, legal or not, is not stupid. It is selfish and evil.
Don't make the mistake of selling Palin short. She is so much worse than stupid.
That's what she thinks the Revolutionary War was about, someone trying to take away our guns... whereas in reality it was, of course, actually about those abortions the redcoats forced upon our women.
Palin is just finding it difficult to shoehorn history into her own conservative belief system. Paul Revere riding for 2nd Amendment rights, Statue of liberty symbolic of anti-socialism and American exceptionalism. When she tries to manufacture these connections, it comes out as gobbledy-gook and contrary to the very real patriotic symbolism that is already there.
American Facts according to Sarah Palin...that her admirers actually agree with....but, she's wrong.
Many VPs Had Never Met a Head of State Before Taking Office
Afghanistan and the US are Neighbors
New Hampshire is in the Northwest
Paul Revere Warned the British
Sputnik Bankrupted the Soviet Union
The Vice President Runs the Senate
The Consitution is Based on The Bible
The Founding Fathers Said the Pledge of Allegiance
Kodiak Island is America's Largest Island
Susan B. Anthony Opposed Abortion
Democrats Moved "In God We Trust" on Coins
The White House Has a Department of Law
The First Amendment Defends Against Media Attacks
http://www.ranker.com/list/13-social-studies-facts-sarah-palin-got-wrong/kel-varnsen?page=1&format=BLOG&sortby=&sortdir=
Ms. Sarah is a twit and 'dumber than dirt.' With the news focus on her remark, one would think the press has 'dumbed down' too.
Sarah Palin was correct...see she woke up one morning in 1776 and looked out her window....
I can see Britain
I wonder if she could also see France
Of course everyone could see her underpants
The emperor has no clothes
I see England I see France I see Palin's Underpants...
OK a bit silly, but Silly is what Palin is
Yeah, yeah whatever Sarah.
So if she's just providing us with additional information that does not contradict the 'official' version, what's the problem.
The mainstream media is so anxious to denigrate her that they seem to want to cast dispersions whenever possible. Personally, I don't think she should run - not because I don't think she couldn't do a better job than Obama (she was far more qualified than Obama), but because the media has done such an effective (and unfair) 'hatchet job' on her that she has no chance of winning.
Much more interesting news today that the media from the left hasn't bothered to print. Here ya go:
http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/06/05/060511-news-weiner-1-4/
Maybe they should be spending more time checking out the lowlife elected officials who are busy wasting taxpayer money?
Hey let's cut her some slack. After all Paul Revere lived like eight hundred years ago and they're was no written record of what actually happened so its not her fault she got the history a little messed up. Besides without the British we wouldn't even have an America. Haven't you people ever heard of the Mayflower and Marco Polo and stuff?? The British East Indiana Spice Company led by Magellan established a presence on American soil long before the American Indians even migrated here from Mexico. This is our land, it's a shame people can't even know a little history about our own country! Read a books you ignorant fools. Paul Revere, John Adams, George Washington Carver, Bryan Adams - These are the founders we need to look at as role models, not today's celebrity politicians, including Sarah Palin, Barack Obama, or Arnold Shwartzzenezegar.
Palin and Glenn Beck are good examples of how the right goes about trying to confuse Americans by taking bits of history here and there and then interpret them any way they like to make their righwing point.
It's like they're telling people to do the same and forget about what the rest of the world thinks. Go ahead and live in your own world, why not? Don't let reality and facts get in the way.
I find it odd that those who claim to be 'THE REAL PATRIOTS' invariably tend to be those most ignorant about the constitution and the history of our nation:
1) Christine O'Donnell, tea party candidate demonstrated more than once that she had no idea what was in the constitution- DESPITE the fact she called herself a constitutional scholar:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20101020/cm_ac/7008748_video_constitutional_scholar_christine_odonnell_slammed_for_first_amendment_ignorance_by_anderson_cooper
2) Michele Bachmann - another tea party darling- claimed the first shots of the revolution were fired in Lexington and Concord NEW HAMPSHIRE.
3)She also claimed the founding fathers worked tirelessly to end slavery- a claim that reveals stunning ignorance of history:
http://hardballblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/01/31/5962000-trust-but-verify-bachmanns-slavery-statements
4)Sharon Angle - another tea party favorite- stated "Government isn’t what our founding fathers put into the Constitution." Which raises the question: Has she ever read it?
5) Rand Paul stated that it was unconstitutional to have laws prohibiting racial discrimination. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-gans/rand-paul-the-tea-party-a_b_585435.html
6) The tea party "THE CONSTITUTION IS SACRED" faithful have fought to do away with 'Birthright citizenship' as codified in the 14th amendment. The second amendment is the ONLY part of the constitution they know.
You see, the tea party isnt about patriotism or the constitution- it is about mouthing the words and putting on an act in order to win over the ignorant long enough to advance the agenda of the corporate and wealthy.
There is a reason the Koch billionaire brothers are funding this national embarrassment - and if you think its to help middle class America, then you are a fool.
Arrel, well said and I make a similar observation on another seed:
@doug ponders
A guy tweeting a cock pic to a college chick is news worthy? I should be on the front page daily... Seriously, if she isn't 12, who gives a crap?
Roy Wilson - Providing additional information? As a major American History buff, especially Revolutionary War, this is beyond moronic. Paul Revere himself recounted his ride that night, and nothing in his writings indicate anything about taunting the British. For me it has nothing to do with Sarah Palin, but it has everything to do with running your trap when you have absolutely no idea what your talking about. I will gladly debate this subject with anyone.
Her ignorance is bad enough, but her arrogance is even worse. Why can't she just admit she made a mistake?
I'm hoping that's satire.
Oh, come on, dad... ignorance and arrogance are what the younger generations operate on.
What a absolute dufus she is.
Really? How does that make Sarah Palin any less stupid?
FYI Antony Weiner is innocent until you can prove otherwise and either way no law was broken.
Like the strong possibility that Sarah is using donated PAC funds for a vacation bus tour? She may no longer be an elected official but she still has to disclose if she's campaigning or camping.
Nice tits.
ROY WILSON-336103...
Roy at some point in time people like you are are just going to have to realize that Sarah Palin IS JUST NOT QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!...neither MORALLY, ETHICALLY, or INTELLECTUALLY! Not to mention the fact that she obviously DOES NOT REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE! It does not matter WHO you compare her to!
Just what this nation and the Earth need right now, the scoop on Paul Revere. How utterly relevant!
Gosh, this Einstein is just what this nation requires to lead us into new frontiers. Thank you, Palin for setting us straight. Since birth, I have been hanging on tender hooks, dying to know about Revere and his horse ride thru all the whatevers. Awwww, what would we all do without this brilliant mind and force. What a scholar.
I believe you need to reimburse me for the cost of a broken snark-o-meter. Sent the needle into the red and busted it.
DEAR GOD! People can't be supporting her can they?? I'd vote for a bag of dog sh** before I voted for her! Even hardcore Republicans can't be seriously considering her to run for president.
@Roy Wilson
Yes, that's what happened. She's just providing us with additional information. Information that apparently only she knows. After all, who are you going to believe, all these so-called "historians" and "professors" with their fancy "educations" and "books" or a half-term governor who can't name a newspaper? Exactly! Remember, right wing ideology is more important that the truth and anyone who questions whether she has her facts straight is an elitist.
Side note: it's "aspersions" not "dispersions". But again, pointing out the ignorance of right wing Palin worshipers just brands me as part of the lamestream and my high school diploma proves that I'm not a "genuine American" like you.
Roy - the media doesn't need to denigrate her. All the media has to do is report what she says. SHE'S the one who's denigrating herself!
She didn't "MESS" it up, because she "MADE" it up!
I am a Republican and a woman, and I can tell you that I'm NOT going to vote for Sarah Palin. As far as I'm concerned, her being an idiot--which she is--isn't the only problem. The people of Alaska elected her governor, and she QUIT.
I don't want a president who will quit when the job gets hard, or because something more interesting comes along. I can't imagine how anyone could seriously consider voting for her.
Roy, her "additional information" is ludicrous just on the surface. Why would the colonists want the British to be warned? The whole point of sending out the riders was to alert the colonists that British troops were on the march, so that they could be prepared for battle. Don't you think warning the British would take away from this?
And where exactly would she get this "additional information" - when EVERY historian says something completely different? Even the British wouldn't agree with this one.
And please explain to me how she was "far more qualified" than Obama. Personally, I'd like my president to have SOME grasp of history, geography, etc. - and post 1.2 above does an excellent job of showing how badly Palin does when it comes to actual, y'know, FACTS.
@SH-2000
I dunno what satire is but all these people that keep wanting to make fun of sweet Sarah need to get a life and look in there own mirrors and there own glass houses. You can put lipstick on a pig but the pig still makes bacon and eggs and other good breakfast stuff! All the so called intellectuals in this country really don't know anything, blinded by big corporate media and Steven Colbert making jokes and stuff about good Americans. Real Americans work hard, plumming, sweeping streets, fighting terrororists that want to kill Americans and knock down the statue of liberty. God blss this country, need a real hardworking American to take office to get this country back on track like Eisenhower used to do.
I hope this is satire, too. If you're serious with this post and your previous one, you're even more of an idiot than Sarah is (at least she has some grasp of the rules of grammar, spelling, punctuation, etc.).
At some point Sarah needs to hire a legit manager who will tell her to shut up, talk about the issues and stop trying to sound intelligent. There are plenty of dumb elected officials.
The GOP HQ can't like this women.
Making the mistake originally was bad enough. Her unwillingness to admit the mistake, and her immature defense of it as if it were not a mistake are telling!
VikiC, I still can't tell....but she got me to laugh with this:
Enigma.
I'll take anything she says over what your guy says.
He thinks we have 57, or is it 58 states. he also thinks it's still 2008. Don't forget how a $900Billion deficit each year for a decade equals $1Trillion dollar surplus.
I think we just found a speech writer for Sarah "SH123"
SH123: ???????????????? What a Moron. Tea Bag Much???????????
Robert, she was wrong. Revere did not warn the British, in fact they arrested him when the found him.
He warned OF the British aka "the British are coming!"
http://www.paulreverehouse.org/ride/real.html
Paul Revere's disposition:http://www.paulreverehouse.org/ride/words.html
Don't be lazy... You folks are on the internet Google is your friend!!!
Palin doesn't want to be President......she wants only to be elected President. Big Difference. She is a pathological attention seeker who does not care who she hurts in her quest for self affirmation. We, as a nation, must not allow incompetence to become the majority vote just to validate one person's shallow self esteem.
Pigs make eggs?!?!?!? Did you get this information from sweet Sarah? WTF?????
I think Sirfiver hit the nail on the head here. I don't think anyone seriously believe she meant that Paul Revere was also warning the British. I honestly didn't even catch that. What the ridicule is for is her blatant misunderstanding of basic historical principles so that she can miraculously warp every patriotic event from American history to support her radical views or attack her political opponents.
Vicki, SH, others
You can breathe easy. Most definitely satire. It's just more fun that way.
Have they checked her bus for lead, asbestos, arsenic, radon, carbon monoxide, etc?
Seriously, trillions of neurons are not firing in that..."brain."
Does that mean that Paul Revere was one of the original Tea Party members? Oh wait, those Tea Party members were not Conservatives. were they? Well that would explain why darling Sarah got confused by the whole thing; She thought Revere was warning the Conservatives to prepare their houses for billeting.
To Sarah Yahbetcha it is all twistory, s'long as yer keep sending her money.
You probably use that same logic when dealing with the contradictions in the synoptics.
I think we need to create a new logical fallacy just to deal with it: Not The Same, But The Same. It's a bit of a hack, but appropriate.
SH123,
Had to be sure : )
Thanks for the giggle, which nicely gave us more from Jdaddy:
She may be useing one of those new .. TEXAS History Books .. the ones that tell the real history of America.. not like those ones we used in school
Amazing! This lady says anything about anything and it's front page news. What did Paul Revere do? He made Revere ware----what else?? Don't you just love that copper bottomed cookware? Yeah, I know the difference.
The ignorance here is amazing. Quite frankly, it doesn't matter what Palin says, the libs are always going to speak intelligently and just call her dumb and an idiot. That's the only response they know. No wonder they voted for Obama. They think the country is humming along and we have full employment and .....
Well, anyway. Anyone who thinks that Revere's ride was just about warning Hancock and Adams that the British were coming just to arrest them is very naive and either ignorant or stupid. Talk about revising history. The lib version of Paul Revere's ride, if you assume as they do that Palin didn't know what she was talking about, is that Revere rode quietly to Lexington, knocked on the door and warned them and then quietly rode home. The British then marched to Lexington, knocked on the door and Hancock and Adams weren't there, so they went back to the boat.
Reality is different. Yes, Revere yelled and warned that the British were coming. He stopped at houses along the way to warn that the British were coming. He didn't hide the fact that the British were coming. And guess what? There were British who lived along the way and they were also warned, if they had ears. Only libs think that all that screaming was meant for the people to wake up and say ok, and go back to sleep.
Anyone know were Revere went after Lexington? To Concord! Why Concord? Because it is a nice place to have a picnic? Yup that must be it. It couldn't be because that was where a major arms depot was located at, could it? Of course, after the SHOT HEARD 'ROUND THE WORLD and the first battle on the Lexington Battlegreen, the British marched on to Concord! They like picnics too!
No wonder libs hate America. They are so ignorant of their history.
Oh, and for references: http://www.paulreverehouse.org/ride/real.html
The Paul Revere House itself. Must be made up though just to cover for Palin's faux pas.
Sarah Palin... comedienne extraordinaire
She is such an idiot! And then spins her idiocy because she knows she can toss out a few cliches and look good to her followers.
We must realize that if this woman were ever elected to national political office she would have history books re-written to reflect her version of popular events in history, and of course some things like slavery, the civil war, Lincoln being assassinated would never ever get published...
I think Roy's found his presidential candidate. To build that kind of idiot logic out of an episode that reminded most sane people of that Miss USA moment with the "such as,... maps of the Afghanistan..." quote is as revealing of his intelligence as it is his blind allegiance to a like minded idiot.
The only certainty if she wins the Republican nomination is that Barack Obama wins the General Election.
Palin 2012!
To Cardog -
Just because I have conversations with myself sometimes doesn't make me looney. My mom calls me the Einstein of our generation. That movie with Russell Crowe about the mathematician that saw ghosts and stuff reminds me a lot of me because of how smart I am and sometimes how reality isn't really what it seems. You've got a long way to go to get to my level but I doubt you'll ever make it because I know so much more about physics and string theory in my little pinky than you do in all of your brain cells. Plus my new pastor says you only have until October 31st until the real rapture comes and I'll be saved and none of this will even matter anyways. Repent now, Prions for Peons!
I don't think there is another person on the planet who, every single time they open their mouth, says something as dumb or just plain wrong, as Palin does. It's almost like she TRIES to be wrong on purpose, like she's going for a Guinness World Record or something. It's hard to fathom how people could actually support her running for ANY office, much less President of the United States.
You know what, I despise George W. Bush and everything he stands for, but I'd welcome him back into the White House myself, if Palin were the only other option available. Thank god that isn't the case, but that's still how I feel.
When the media calls Sarah Palin a terrorist and a secret muslim, like she did to Obama, then Palin will have a right to bitch and moan about hatchet jobs. Slander is her middle name. It's about the only thing she has experience in; lord knows she has no governmental experience.
If being an intellectual means I can spell correctly then I'll proudly wear that hat. O_o
OMG - Sarah Palin rewrites history - to fit her brain. What a moron.
She didn't make a mistake. She IS a mistake!
FOX proves how nutz they are by allowing Palin to "refute" her revisionist history claim.
when Sarah was elected Mayor of Wassilla her first trip was to the public Library where she tried to have the library shut down because they refused to ban certain books she felt were inappropriate
Cardog,
Up thread in #1.41 she said she was joking...
Sh123 the rapture what a joke and you for believe in this junk.
RI Mom while I am not one to defend Palin I would like to examine a few points.
Paul Revere did warn the British in a sence but not in the way she suggested. Paul Revere was captured on his way and no doubt this alerted them that there was resistance in the region.
If you like to look at things side ways it could be argued that Sputnik bankrupted the Soviet Union. Sputnik was responsible for the arms race to enter the heavens. The cost of the space race that followed was in part the cause of the bankruptcy of the State. It requires an a lot of imagination to get there however.
Vice President leading the Senate. This is where she is absolutly right. The Vice President is Senate Pro Tem and as such is leader of the Senate. The role traditionally is given to the majority leader but according to the Constitution it is his job. The Vice President is role to break ties if there is one.
The Constitution is based on the Bible. Since most laws are based on Bible that wouldn't be too difficult to believe.
Kodiak is the larges island if you ignore Hawaii. Since she doesn't believe that Obama is a US citizen then I can see her argument. After all Obama was born in Hawaii.
As far as anything else is concerned I have no idea what she is talking about.
SH123
I almost peed my undies. hihi. You're so funny.
Miked -
What do you call a basement full of Republicans - HALIBURTON
From “Paul Revere’s Ride” by the Brandeis University historian David Hackett Fischer, Oxford Univesity Press, 1994, Page 185
Palin's timing might be off and she failed to mention a few key events, but it is documented that Paul Revere was captured and questioned by Major Edward Mitchell who instructed that Revere be taken at gunpoint to Lexington. Revere did warned Mitchell that the people had been alerted and were taking up arms to make a stand. The British were spooked and released Revere in order to make haste. This set of circumstances is discussed here:
From "Paul Revere and the World He Lived In" by Esther Forbes, Pulitzer Prize winning author and Newberry Medal Winner, page 267
The is a slight error here in the retelling, namely that Revere's saddle was cut. I attribute this to some forgetfulness of embellishment by by Richard Pope, the non-commissioned officer.
But here is an exerpt written by Revere himself about 23 years after his famous ride:
This letter is the transcript of the original manuscript held in the Manuscript Collection of Massachusetts Historical Society.
www.paul-revere-heritage.com/ride-letter-to-Belknap.html
Considering Palin was providing a candid comment without necessarily having the material right in front of her, she did hit amazingly close to the mark.
Of course, you can ignore the comments of Paul Revere, Esther Forbes a Pulitzer Prize winner and author of a Revere biography and a published university historian. But who's really the moron between all of you and Sarah Palin (hint: its not Palin)
"The ignorance here is amazing. Quite frankly, it doesn't matter what Palin says, the libs are always going to speak intelligently and just call her dumb and an idiot. That's the only response they know. No wonder they voted for Obama. They think the country is humming along and we have full employment and ....."
witchrunner,
At first I though this was another poor attempt at satire and then it hit me... you're for real! Well... witchrunner you just made are argument for us. Never let intelligence and "dern" book learning get in the way of facts. But what do I know I am just a Socialist, liberal, Communist, Nazi, tree hugging, Democratic, Pinko, baby killer. And to think I would allow education, intellectual curiosity and critical thinking get in the way of "fancy pageant walking" and sleeve wearing phony patriotism. "Dern" Libs!
The sad thing is that there are people who say what SH123 was saying ... but are dead ass serious. You know .. like the people who live down the street from me and have had a huge sign up in their front yard that says "Palin 2012". O_O
Just when you think it can't get any better, she opens her mouth to defend her own stupidity LOL
And to think we have over a year of hilarity yet to come! Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert must be in their glory right now.
I think we can all agree... Democrat, Republican and Independent alike that we all want our Presidents to be at the very least intelligent! Only the truly cognitively challenged are going to vote for someone so obviously ignorant by choice and proud of it! Stupid will always seeks out stupid.
I voted for Obama because I wanted to do all I could to keep Palin out of office (even VP) I will vote for whoever I have to vote for to keep her out of office in 2012 if it comes down to it. BTW... Unemployment was dropping before Obama was elected (let alone took office). Yea, it continued to drop, but you can only do so much to get people to hire again. Republicans aren't even trying to do anything for unemployment because they are hoping people would blame Obama and not vote for him again. I may not care to much if a republican takes office (Im not a democrat or a liberal) BUT I do not want it to be Palin.
That's right another stupid president wanna be. "I can see Russia from my house" and "Paul Revere rode to warn the British"!!! The drilla from Wassilla and the tea party is going to win big. Especially if Bachmann and Palin are hooked up in series.
TO David
1.66
Two Points....
(1) Magna Carta: Cornerstone of the U.S. Constitution...not the bible
What has Magna Carta meant for American law?
It is the source of many of our most fundamental concepts of law.
Indeed, the very concept of a written constitution stems from Magna Carta.
In over one hundred decisions, the United States Supreme Court has traced our dependence on Magna Carta for our understanding of due process of law, trial by jury of one's peers, the importance of a speedy and unbiased trial, and protection against excessive bail or fines or cruel and unusual punishment.
#2
Palin's claim that the vice president is "in charge of" the Senate is wrong.
The only power specifically outlined in the Constitution for a vice president is to preside over the Senate and have a vote in case of a tie.
No further formal policy making roles were specified, because when the Constitution was drafted, the vice president was the runner up for the presidency, and was expected to come from a different faction or party.
Nonkjo. You are correct of course if you believe that it was Paul Revere's intention to get caught. The British being the professional army that they were was not likely to be spooked because some loony was going around yelling the British were coming. Where the British met many of their worst disasters was because they stuck to formation not run from them. This was very well known by the rebels at the time. If you take away that intention the argument fails.
You idiots that put Mrs. Palin down, I would love to see a battle of witts between youll all, my money would be on her. She was speaking on one aspect of the Revolutionary War and also the war changed in many ways from when it started to when it ended. It started out by some of the colonist being frustrated over paying taxes and then getting nothing out of their taxes, the King kept breaking promises. When the war started very few colonist wanted to break away let alone fight. It was a wonder that the war was won by us. Palin could be right, who knows, stories changed and things got exaggerated but one thing is that is true, what difference does it make. That is the great thing that came about in the last two hundred and twenty five years is if you have a opinion then you have the freedom to express it. This is Mrs. Palin's opinion and you uneducated people have yours.
R I Mom. My suggestion was not that the Constitution was based strickly on the bible. Rather my suggestion was that most laws at the time based themselves on religious beliefs. My suggestion is and was that it was a stretch but you could not simply ignore it's impact.
RI Mom you would have to decide as to whether there is anyone truly in charge of the Senate. To suggest that the Majority Leader is in charge is based simply on the fact that he/she is taking the place of the Vice President. According to the Constitution the leader of the Senate is the next executive office holder below the President. In most cases this is the Vice President. It could be argued that there truly is no leader within the Senate. If this is the case your argument stands.
William -- I'd take you up on that battle of "witts," but it wouldn't be a fair fight as Ms. Palin would be completely unarmed. And yes, it is wonderful that Ms. Palin and the rest of us are entitled to freely express our opinions. But most of us, when it comes to historic events, stick to facts rather than opinions. I say "most of us" because Ms. Palin has a history of trying to present her opinions as fact instead of, as you say, just her opinion.
BTW -- although things do change and get exaggerated, what I learned in school is not that colonists were frustrated because of "getting nothing out of their taxes," but because they were taxed without being represented in Parliament. But what do I know? I'm just one of those uneducated people who shouldn't have the temerity to "refudiate" anything Ms. Palin or her devoted followers say.
Palin is NOT who I want to see running for president, but neither is Obama.
The media can almost entirely create the image they choose with any candidate. With Obama, they covered up, ignored or dismissed his misquotes, mistakes and his VERY SUSPECT prior associations with communists, black racists, America-hating domestic terrorists and other unsavory characters, and instead placed him on a pedestal of praise and worship. On many occasions, the media actually issued personal attacks on others questioning Obama's lack of experience, anti-American associations and qualifications to be president. And we thought the media just reported the news. HA!
The leftist media of today is quite accomplished in their successful use of propaganda. John F. Kennedy understood that lower taxes stimulates economic growth and increases revenues to government. The leftist media of today would have liberals believing that Kennedy only cared about the wealthy and corporations because of this, and that he should be voted against. The easily molded leftists would even think it was all their own idea.
The whole purpose of the ride was to permit the assembling of militias to put the British on notice - that they no longer had free run of the country, that the colonists were serious fully prepared to stop them.
I think Palin's choice of the word warn was unusually poor. Big picture folks is what is important.
@ david1159:
David, please do present your researched differing opinion?
Oh, that's right, you don't have one!
Are you saying that just because Revere was caught, he couldn't say, "Don't go to Lexington or else!" I did notice you conveniently ignored the part of the quoted texts that describe what Revere told the British as a warning. It's not me who said it, it was a university professor and a Pulitzer Prize winner. Are you a Pulitzer winner of a university professor? Or are you just some guy on Newsvine with an uninformed mob opinion?
If you did some more research, you'd know that a: Revere didn't shout "The British are coming!" (Please try to look beyond Schoolhouse Rock) and b. yes, the British soldiers were spooked because, up until Revere was actually captured, the British regulars did not even know what their mission was and there was much speculation that it was another training march by General Gage. Ensign Jeremy Lister of the 10th Foot [infantry] described the eerie scene of the gathering militia because as they were marching towards Lexington, in the dawn light, they could see the colonials running past them in the fields in order to get ahead of the British soldiers. That's when they realized it wasn't training.
On top of this, Private James Marr of the 4th Foot describes an encounter during the march when they were fired upon. He says that the troops were "green" and untested. Again, poking ones nose into a researched book, we get information that contradicts your unsubstantiated opinion! Go look in Fisher's book yourself...it's on page 187 and he has annotation for his bibliography. You bring nothing to the table!
Your comment about "formations" is irrelevant to the discussion and is an attempt to distract from a topic that you are not prepared to discuss! British firing lines and battle formations have nothing to do with the question of whether or not Revere warned the Brits so I'm not sure what your point is. If it has to do with the actual engagement, and you are alluding to the "Rebels" fighting differently, you'd still be wrong because the militiamen formed up on the green to face them. I think you are referring to Francis Marion who led irregular militia in a guerrilla campaign later in the war. And like I said, you're so far off topic with it, I'm probably wasting my time trying to educate you.
The anti-intellectualism problem is larger than Palin’s most recent gaffe. I absolutely do not approve of Sarah Palin, or Michele Bachmann, or any other Tea Party person for this reason, and worse that individuals like them profit from anti-intellectualism.
Palin and people like Glenn Beck are no better than Harold Camping who have gotten rich from ignorant people’s fears. They gain wealth due to no merit of their own—they are parasites on our society and like the parasites they are, they damage society.
However, and in all fairness, there is always more to the story…
Sarah Palin has gotten through life being a Beauty Contestant not a Rocket Scientist, and she darn well knows it. She also gets through life with street savvy, vindictiveness, and taking the path of least resistance.
Knowing she is too lazy to apply herself to scholastic studies, or even “listening” to advice from others, when the media asks her academic questions (AKA “gotcha” questions), she is very uncomfortable. She often responds to the questions like a sixth grader who takes what little he/she did absorb, and adds embellishment to create an answer.
She may not have meant to say warning the “British”—she was like a deer in the headlights. But she said it and it is inaccurate. To make matters worse, later she defends her answer with this:
Aside from her usual crazy syntax (well-armed persons individual militia?) often combined with a shrill voice that makes your hair hurt…There was talk of a second ride to warn of British troops planning to destroy a munitions depot, but the second ride never took place. In Sarah Palin World her Happy Ears heard “Paul Revere founded the NRA to protect the Second Amendment and our right to bear arms.” That’s just how information goes in and comes out, get it?
What about the bells and the shots (in another interview she refers to the “red glare”)? Paul Revere did not ring any bells or fire any shots. Once again, in Sarah Palin World, history and the “Star-Spangled Banner” gets all mixed up with her own views and comes out as a different version of history. As for her assertion that the Statue of Liberty represents anti-socialism, don’t tell her the Statue of Liberty was a gift from those darn socialist French.
One thing for sure, Sarah Palin is the last person to talk about “exceptionalism”--along with her Tea Party supporters--and the last person to take that call at 3:00 in the morning, or to be anywhere near “the button.” Enough!
How can ANYONE possibly take this creature seriously?? Damn you, John McCain, for what you have foisted upon Americans!!
Miked - what do you call a house full of Republicans - nothing. They're not worth the effort!
Lizzy from boston, I think you better rethink what you wrote if you read that. The colonist didn't have jets that they could just jump on and fly to England, the colonist to send a representive to represent them. No the king kept making promises to colonist that he would provide them protection against Spain and he didn't send a army until they declared their independence, but then he also raised their taxes so a few organized and fought back but in the begining most colonist didn't support the fight, they were afraid of what the kings army would do to them and even to the end some remained loyal to the king. Its funny, we are a lot like the colonist being taxed and getting nothing but broken promises from our king which is Washington but instead of one king we have over six hundred of the worthless people.
Hello RIMom, I looked up a few of the things you mentioned.
From Susan B. Anthony's biorgaphy, she did not approve of abortions and said a woman who had one had been greatly wronged. She believed the only reason they were in use was because women were treated as 2nd class citizens.
The VP is the president of the senate. Remember back when Al Gore cast the tie breaking vote as "President of the Senate" way back when? The tie that he broke by the, part of it was to make Social Security payments taxable.
In 2007 "In God We Trust" was moved to the edge of the dollar coin instead of on the face. That was a dem controlled house and senate, not that it matters.
Use of the first amendment is limited, we can't yell fire in a crowded theater for example or slander someone.
The Constitution is probably based on the Bible and why not? Many scholars think this is the case and illistrate this with text almost verbatim from the Bible. This country was started by people fleeing religous persecution. Why wouldn't they use a document they believed held the values they held as a starting point.
Kodiak Island is the largest island attached to a state, Hawaii is larger but it is a State by itself.
This is the case I find most of the time when talking with liberals, they have half of the facts and haven't bothered to look anything up. Wake up people, it doesn't matter if you are liberal or conservative, you are still only getting half of the story. What we really need to do is balance our check book and take care of our country.
Nonkjo. OK I know that Paul Revere was not shouting the British are coming. Your argument is based on the idea that it was his intention to get caught. Whether or not the British were trainees or regulars was not something that could have been known by Paul Revere at the time. While the word formation may have not have been the best, what was true was the British were known to be arrogant and overconfident and not likely to be spooked by any single rider. Most of the British troops at the time thought that these rebels were, at best, a minor nuisance.
I still say if it was not his intention to get caught the simple fact of his racing to Concord was not to spook the British. It should be noted that Paul Revere was not the only rider. There were several some of which reached Concord. Paul Revere is the only to become famous for it.
Remember the argument was that his ride was intended to spook the British as well as to alert militias. If his intention was spook the British then he would have needed to get caught. I don't believe that was the case.
Its important to know there are still politicians out there, like Palin, that if they lie and never admit the truth, they are doing their job.
Where do these people come from? Is that what religious or radical extremism is? I'm beginning to think it is. You know, its like a 5 year old child who runs around with their fingers in their ears and screams, "La la la, I'm not listening!" Can't deny these ridiculous people the right to vote. Just point out that they should try to learn something beyond their thick skulls.
Thinking Democrats and Republicans have shunned her. The only people who embrace Palin at this point are people who are angry, don't know why they are angry, but really think its important to be angry.
One if by land, and two if by sea,
three if it's aircraft, and millions for me.
Paul was ringing those bells, in olden times,
kinda like me, but I ring your chimes.
Paul made history on his midnight ride,
I make it up, it's whatever I decide.
For a wonderful President vote for just me -
'Cause I know the truth, you can always, "Trust me."
William -- no need to rethink what I wrote. James Otis, one of the Massachusetts legislators, and the lawyer who argued for the Boston merchants who challenged the legality of the Writs of Assistance, is the person credited with using the phrase "Taxation without representation is tyranny." And although Wikipedia info is sometimes suspect, I refer you to their entry about the phrase: "No taxation without representation" is a slogan originating during the 1750s and 1760s that summarized a primary grievance of the British colonists in the Thirteen Colonies, which was one of the major causes of the American Revolution." There was disagreement between the Americans wanting actual representation (for which Otis argued in the Stamp Act Congress of 1765), and the British preference for virtual representation. You can look that up if you don't know the difference.
The Revolutionary War had many causes, but "no taxation without representation" was definitely a major cause of frustration regarding taxes.
Oh, my goodness, they didn't? Geez, I wonder if that's why they used ships?
Sarah Palin seems to hate the media because it's kinda like a teacher who gives her bad grades. She doesn't even know she's answered the question wrong, it's just that the teacher is a jerk and he doesn't like her.
And the thing is, our mainstream media is about as weak as it's ever been. The media lets this kind of thing slide. Not that they don't point it out and correct what was wrong, but in the past, the teacher might've actually held the grudge, actually brought up her past inaccuracies when they mattered or whenever people started to take her seriously.
Paul Revere wasn't flashing coded lights to the British to let them know that they weren't going to come and take our guns.
She's a joke. Taking her seriously and defending her casts serious doubt on those who would do so.
The minute history contradicts the beliefs or political stance of radical people, they rewrite it or defend a stance that might have a minor truth to perpetuate a larger lie as a defense to ignorance.
Speaking of ignorance and not checking facts:
David1159 The Senate pro tempore - A constitutionally recognized officer of the Senate who
presides over the chamber in the absence of the Vice President. The The Senate (also referred to as President Pro Tempore or, "president for a time") is elected by the Senate and is, by custom, the Senator of the majority party with the longest record of continuous service.
BTW The Senate Pro Tempore is the 4th person in line to succeed a President Behind the Speaker of the House and The Vice-President
Why is this such a big deal? Just a short time ago Obama said there are 57 states and he was talking about NOW, in the PRESENT. Not history from 200+years ago.
Roy Wilson,
Saying things like Palin "was more qualified than Obama" is the same funny meat that allows GOP to put someone like Michele Bachmann on the Intelligence Committee.
In my opinion, Bachmann has more than just a problem recognizing what is true and what is not. I think she believes her words are true right after she made them up and said them aloud. And there are those occasions when Palin/Bachmann are just repeating lines they have been given to say. Not people you want in charge of anything.
Your question, "So if she's (Palin) just providing us with additional information that does not contradict the 'official' version, what's the problem?"
Part of the problem is that Palin was not there when Revere was around and so the 'additional' info is pure fantasy on her part. Sometimes, like yesterday, I go after you for that very reason.
Amazing (well, not really) the number of "excuses" offered on behalf of Obama for his gaffe re 57 states.
And, Backhouse, you say that Palin wasn't there when Revere was around, but Obama WAS and IS here, and "visited all 57 States except Alaska and Hawaii".
If I'm not mistaken, that was during the campaign, and he was fairly well exhausted, and admitted he was wrong and that he knew there were fifty, rather than trying to justify it with some nonsense about trying to warn the British off of stealing our guns. Paul Revere mostly communicated using lamp signals. Like a secret code. The British would've seen a guy with a lamp, and wouldn't know the codes. It might've been apparent that he was trying to warn SOMEONE, but he sure as Hell wasn't trying to say, "You better not try to take our guns, by golly."
Aggie ~ When you've been under the spotlight 24/7 for several years & every word & gesture you made recorded and sent around the world,
let me know.
The lamps were not held by Paul Revere. They were used to signal him to ride and spread the news. He did not ride whispering to people. He was yelling as loudly as possible.
Are you Libs really so daft as to think only the Colonists heard him?
The mere fact you think he rode signalling the British troops were on their was with a lamp just proves what the rest of know. You Libs were failed by the Government Schools.
But can we go back in the Tardis and see for ourselves with say, CNN?
If not, why not?
Boomdawg: Yes the Veep is President of the Senate, but that doesn't mean he runs it. He breaks ties in votes, and he gets to smack the desk with the gavel to open sessions. Other than that, he doesn't even need to be there. To say he is running it is like saying the Conductor is running the train.
The Constitution being based on the Bible is not true. While most of the founding fathers were God fearing men, at least one, Thomas Jefferson, had in his possession, a well used version of the Quran, as well as edited his own Bible with a razor blade. Other founding fathers who were instrumental in constructing the Constitution were Unitarian Universalists who believed that each person's relationship with God is between God and the Person. They believe more in doing the right thing socially, and justice for EVERYONE. Another religion represented by the Founding Fathers was Quaker. They do not believe in forcing their beliefs on others either. There is a reason our first amendment states: "'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." Actually, our constitution is based on social justice and equity. If that's in your religion, great. You also need to know that religion in 1789 was not the same as religion today. Biblical intrepretation was very different.
The statement was "America's largest island" not "America's largest island that is not a state". Hawaii (island) may be a state, but it's still the largest island in America. Also, Hawaii (island) is only one of several islands within the state of Hawaii (State).
I think you need to use the American version of Google. You don't know your facts either.
"According to the letter, written around 1798, Revere did give up some details of the plan to the British that night, but after he had notified other colonists, and under questioning by British soldiers....Surrounded, Revere revealed "there would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up," he wrote."
So Palin is right about her history, and the media is wrong - What else is new?
David, David, David...
The purpose or intent of Paul Revere's ride is not in dispute! Just answer these simple questions for me:
1. Did the authors I quoted say that Revere warned the British? (yes or no)
2. Do you deny that Revere told the British that there were militiamen waiting for them in Lexington? (again, yes or no)
There is no escaping reality, only denial? Go back and reread the original post and look for "warn"....it's there! Here's the quote from Fisher's book again:
You can argue intent until you're blue in the face but you cannot quote one single part of anything I've written where I said Revere intended to be caught. You are splitting hairs on how the British got the message, I'm simply saying that it happened, regardless of the circumstances. I'm not making an argument, I'm just pointing to researched documentation that supports Sarah Palins assertion that Paul Revere at some point during the night warned the British. Seriously, go Google the book titles and read it for yourself, it's free. Quit tap dancing!
I never said the purpose of his ride was to "spook" the British either. Their discomfort was a byproduct of the warning he gave them when he was captured. (BTW, Dr. Joseph Warren and Dr. Samuel Prescott and William Dawes were the other riders that night.)
Professor Fisher says Revere warned the Brits. Sarah Palin said Revere warned the Brits. It really is that simple. The issue here is people are raking Palin over the coals and calling her a history revisionist yet there are scholarly works in existence that support what she said. The choice to avoid this reality is one you make willingly. Do I agree with you that she sounded stupid? Absolutely! But she wasn't defending a PhD thesis paper so I don't expect eloquence in an impromptu situation by someone who isn't a revolutionary war scholar. The question is, why do you. Sarah Palin is a nobody and we expect perfection. President Obama can't make a toast to the queen without reading from note-cards and still screws it up and people turn a blind eye. I guess a Sarah Palin hate-fest is more important that truth.
There is just NO WAY any intelligent human being can seriously consider EVER voting for this twit.
There's plenty of the other kind in this discussion, Peter. It's sad to say, but I thought you should know.
Debianni. I would like to set this straight. Yes the Constitution is loosely based on the Magna Carta. What I have been trying to state is that most of what was written had some religious basis. This is not to state that any part of it could be taken directly from the bible but rather it, as well as most laws at the time, had some religious tint to it. I have been stating that this requires a great deal of imagination but it could be argued.
As far as the leader of the Senate goes it would depend on whether you believe that there is a Senate leader or not. The majority leader is the leader of his/her party not of the Senate. The majority leader is only the leader of the Senate if he can hold his/her party together. This is something that has been shown to be a difficult thing to do. Oddly enough the Republicans are much better at doing this than Democrats.
The Vice President's job is to preside over the Senate. This is where the idea that he leads the Senate comes from. This in no way suggests that he has any control over what the Senate does. The way I see it is that either the Vice President is the leader of the Senate or that it has no leader at all. Considering how well it is working now the latter is probably true.
I stated earlier that Kodiak island was the largest island if you ignored Hawaii. Sarah Palin does not believe that Obama was born in the United States. President Obama was born in Hawaii so she must think that Hawaii is not a State. If this were true Kodiak would be the largest island
People should vote on substance and not lip service. Intelligence, knowledge, morals, ethics, and not quitters or grifters.
Nonkjo. I am not denying anything that you are stating. What I am attempting to do is to take Sarah Palin's statement and put it into the context of reality. The statement was that Paul Revere's ride was not only done to alert the militias but also to spook the British. If the question is whether he spooked the British at capture then the answer is that he yes. If the question is whether his intention was to spook the British through his ride alone I suggest that the answer would be no. This is why I consider intention to be so critical. I find what you are say facinating but in this case I consider intention to be King, not the reality of what actually happened.
I love the effect Palin has on liberals. Go Sarah! Enjoy the new house!
You mean how liberals laugh their asses off at Palin. Yeah, she's a real resource to conservatives.
Personally I like my conservatives not to be laughing stocks. You go on, Bob, with your clown. Meanwhile thinking conservatives are looking for an actual candidate.
"The statement was that Paul Revere's ride was not only done to alert the militias but also to spook the British."
Paul Revere's ride was in no way, shape, or form intended to warn or spook the British. History clearly does not support such an asinine position.
"I love the effect Palin has on liberals."
You must mean the effects stemming from laughing themselves sick at Sarah, right, Bob?
Nonkjo.
I would like to state from where I was basing my arguments from. My statements are as to what was his goal when he got on his horse and started to ride. Not when he was captured or when he knew he was going to be captured. This is where I see a difference. If the question is about the latter the answer would be different. I know that it is splitting hairs but I think that they are important hairs to split.
I have a question. My statement on 1.66 was collapsed. This is a first. What did I say?
"I know that it is splitting hairs but I think that they are important hairs to split."
There are no hairs to split on this issue. History clearly supports the purpose of the ride and it was NOT to alert the British in any way. Palin was just fabricating a story because it sounded good at the time. That's all.
ROY WILSON/Nonkjo
Guys this can be debated into the ground, but there is nothing close to conclusive to back her statement.
I do not question your intelligence, your both well spoken and articulate but this is a pattern with her. She takes these bits of info and twist them to fit her views.
Derek, I mean posts like yours dude. Sarah Palin is getting filthy rich because of a bunch moranic left wing loons. It's fun to watch. Keep it up!
Roy Wilson---> Idiot of the first order follows Palin over the cliff just to get a whiff of her flagellation's.
Robert Cascadden---> Doesn't know or can't understand why the signal to Revere came from high position so that the British troops could be spotted at a long distance (Out of earshot??? DUH!!)
Backhouse..so it was during the campaign, so what? Not 200+ years ago. Both you and Ed Grimley...MORE excuses!
Just sitting here trying to join the fray, but I can't stop laughing as I imagine the fun that Tina, Jon, Stephen, Jay, Dave and the rest of our comedians will have with their writers as they prepare for this week's shows. Of course, some of my laughs were initiated by the great comments already posted.
The comics are the only real Americans that will miss Simple Sarah when her fifteen minutes are up. The Faux "real" Americans worship every word that SS or other Faux News dolts speak. They are so ignorant and brainwashed that they'll believe what ever imaginary history or Repugnican version of the truth that is drilled into their little minds. Actual history bores them since it does nothing to prove their contention that the USA is a christian nation.
"What you have seen or heard may or may not be the truth" is a classic Repugnican disclaimer which is usually shown after political ads. Imagine!! The entire saga of Simple Sarah and Mindless Michelle is based on their candidacies for Half President (SS-2 yr limit) and Half Wit (SS&MM-4ever) as the first ever executives for the UISA (United Imaginary States of America)
The possibilities of "imagineering"(fabrication of lie and/or twist of truth in order to create doubt) in common knowledge (truth)are endless. Once the Wit (SS&MM) Repugnicanizes Early American History, they will get a message from above* to proceed on to the 19th and 20th centuries for the massive cleanup on all aisles (coverups on all continents).
You Betcha, there can't be any similarities to war crimes committed way back in the 1940's to what happened recently. Like the A$$hole and his dick, Darth Cheney said, "America doesn't torture!" Huh, Huh??
We'll be seeing you in other dimension, SS & MM!
"Sarah Palin is getting filthy rich because of a bunch moranic left wing loons."
Moranic left wing loons? Really, Bob?
"Guys this can be debated into the ground, but there is nothing close to conclusive to back her statement."
Yes, Roy, there is the obvious conclusion that she completely fabricated a story about a well documented historical event just because it sounded good at the moment and she is too stubborn to admit she is wrong.
Wasn't there a bit of controversy regarding the Colonists' battle tactics? I believe it was the first time "ambush" style tactics were employed and it pissed the British off to no end, claiming the Colonists were resorting to uncivilized and barbaric fighting methods.
Surprise was the basis for their fighting style. How is Palin going to explain the quote "Don't fire until you see the whites of their eyes" if the British were fairly warned of the Colonists' intent to engage them in warfare?
Yes Go Sarah! And this time we really mean it. Just GO!
Peter Jacobs,
"People should vote on substance and not lip service. Intelligence, knowledge, morals, ethics, and not quitters or grifters." (in your words )
If that was the case obama certainly would have never been elected,in his case it was a bought election its called coruption.
From reading these posts, there are a lot of mis-informed people - because of our news media and current education system.
Palin is from just about the year I graduated from High School. Back then, we were taught the WHOLE story, not the highest points, or just the ones they wanted to tell you.
Did they tell you that Paul Revere was a Traitor or a Hero? She thinks he warned the British.
William, I dont remember them asking Palin what her opinion on the Revolutionary War was. They asked about Paul Revere. Paul Revere QUIETLY warned people that the British were coming. She said that he rang bells and fired shots. He got captured and did tell the British soldiers that the colonists knew they were coming. She happened to be "correct" about that. If you watch the video, she obviously was stumped and had to think really hard.
I will match her wits against mine any day of the week. I promise she wont win, unless its all girly stuff like designer clothes or something.
ahhcrap- Im thinking she may have confused Paul Revere with Benedict Arnold...
"I will match her wits against mine any day of the week."
Let's raise the ante here: I will match her wits against my doorknob's any day of the week. Your call.
Do you seriously not get the difference between misspeaking and and a fundamental misunderstanding of reality? Obama said 57 states because he was tired, and probably was recently looking at a bottle of Heinz ketchup, whereas Palin says something that's not only wrong, she doubles down and tries to explain herself.
Obama didn't come out and say, "Well, Canada, Mexico, Puerto Rico, Cuba, Jamaica, Haiti, and the Dominican Republic are basically states."
nonkjo-
Considering Palin was providing a candid comment without necessarily having the material right in front of her, she did hit amazingly close to the mark.
Are you stupid, or a propagandist? What she said was that Revere was out there giving the middle finger to the Brits. "...that they weren't going to take our arms... as he's riding his horse through town sounding those shots and ringing those bells... that we were gonna be secure and we were gonna be free."
There is NO WAY TO WARP THE REAL EVENT TO FIT HER TWISTED, UNEDUCATED drivel. She is either a full-blown sociopath or a deluded twit.
Another poster suggested that she ought to hire a handler, who could tell her when to shut up and avoid revealing her stupidity. I truly fear that many of the corporate-approved candidates that we are offered in our contrived elections are managed in exactly that way. In that spirit, I am very glad that no one muzzles this Wasilla Hillbilly, lest she should appear a credible, worthy candidate.
Our "mainstream media," which is in fact a corporate controlled media, does not have any real interest in putting an end to morons like Palin, because she serves as a perfect distraction from the disastrous destruction of true democratic process in the nation.
SHOW us where our government is acting IN THE INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE!!
NO, not by gutting every social function of that government, but by holding the abusers and criminals who wrecked the economy to account. Not one single person will serve time for the crimes and recklessness that totaled the middle class strength of this nation. NOT ONE!
The media, bereft of any understanding of critical thinking skills, allows shills and minions of the economic elite to tell us that WE are our problem, and shake us and our heirs down for generations to come. WE are in fact the VICTIMS of the greatest swindle in the history of civilization!
Apologists like you are at least as bad as those who twist religious scriptures to allow for hatred and persecution and even mass murder, calling it the Will of God.
Mind boggling...especially that she still has supporters who think she'd be a good president.
DM7741 - so you choose an errant version over the actual historical excerpts (1 by Paul Revere)? Seems to me one should review the evidence instead of ignoring it. Not doing so destroys one's credibility. This used to be taught in High School History Class - what happened to your school?
What happened to his critical thinking skills?
DM: Well, it is certainly mind boggling that Obama still has supporters who think he is a good president.
Actually, he may not have any supporters who think he is a good president. You never read any comments praising his handling of the economy (I thought his supporters would be thrilled that it is booming like it is, thanks to Obama). All you read about is dumb comments about Palin. Wonder why? Well, not really, I know why. It's obvious for everyone to see, at least anyone who has a brain.
[quote]kevinoffsite
Miked -
What do you call a basement full of Republicans - HALIBURTON[/quote]
What do you call a basement full of Democrats - Terrorist planning their next attack on America
Oh bob, you are so pathetic the only difference between you and Palin is you haven't figured out how to make money at it. By the way, the money is being made off you, not some Democrat laughing their ass off.
People like you need to be fired from voting Republican. Seriously. You are a Democrat in disguise if you are promoting Palin. Because nothing will destroy anything good from a conservative agenda faster than an elected Palin and all her fans.
So go back to your Democrats you pretend to hate. You obviously love em.
Sarah Palin has announced that if she were to seek the Presidency she would ask Charlie Sheen to run as her VP running mate. She further stated that her reasoning comes from the fact that Mr Sheen already has a huge following of Americans, and that he and she have a meeting of the mind on many issues, she has followed his Tweets religiously as have many of you and that "Winning" is a great motto.
It's obvious for everyone to see, at least anyone who has a brain.
Right. Since the article is about Palin, I guess everyone should be ragging on Obama. Everyone with a brain, at least.
What do you call a basement full of Democrats - Terrorist planning their next attack on America
That is just plain stupid. The Halliburton joke is potentially funny because it is possible. Democrats as terrorists? Then you think most Americans are terrorists. Perhaps they should get your room ready at the mental hospital.
Just because someone can see that Palin is stupid and a poor candidate for president, doesn't mean that they agree or like Obama. I voted for Obama because I didn't want Palin in office (even as VP) I will vote for Obama again if it might keep her out of office again. I would like to vote for someone else, but it isn't going to be Palin.
Sauve -
Careful now. You realize those kinds of comments will be collapsed by the community. It's super incredibly hard to tell sarcasm and satire with adding a /sarc or /satire or /jkthisissupposedtobefunny tag to the end of your posts. Oh wait, were you kidding? Is she really teaming up with Charlie Sheen? I like "winning" too!
Aggie, I know you're mistake-proof, but bear with me. Obama acknowledged the slip, whereas Palin is adamant that her story is based in reality, while continuing to embellish it.
I think you need a serving of ketchup.
My favorite arguments here are the "Well, how do you know he WASN'T warning the British??" ones. You're right! And you know what else? How do we know for sure that Paul Revere didn't have a tattoo of King George on his butt? How do we really know that FDR was crippled? Maybe he was faking. I'm going to teach that one to my kids. It's probably true. Also, Gandhi had a spaceship. Probably.
Palin needs to crap or get off the pot, NOW. Quit drawing all the attention to yourself and away from Republican candidates that ARE running. Its hurting our chances of winning. Romney announced he was running last week, but instead of more attention being given where it should, to Romney, it was spent on Palin. Unless she is running, and at this point, she isn't, she needs to just go away until her help is needed for the Republican nominee. The chair of the Republican party needs to tell her to cool it and quit drawing attention away from the Republican candidates, and also to quit criticizing them, unless she becomes a candidate.
TruePatriot,
You have so nailed it in #1.86! What is really amazing is the number of people who are trying to come to her defense and conclude by some bizarre technicality she isn't totally out of her mind. Anybody in their right mind has to know she screwed up, and then screwed up again when she tried to defend her statement. If you are a Palin supporter, the smartest thing to do is just shut up and let this blow over. There's plenty of other things to comment on and your time would be better spent slamming Obama. But no, people have actually chosen to post a defense for this. It boggles the mind! You could just skip past this one and not demonstrate just how silly it is to support this woman as a potential candidate for President. No one would blame you for remaining quiet on this one! Ever hear of discretion being the better part of valor?
If one really feels an urge to defend her, just say she misspoke under pressure and what she said was essentially twisted to make her look bad. That's not a legitimate excuse for her stupidity, but it's a acceptable explanation for her gaffe. I think this is really very telling. Not just about her and her lack of any useful or accurate knowledge, but more importantly about just how far some people will go to try to justify their support for her. That says a lot about how twisted a view of reality that so many people are living with.
Her comments earlier about the Statue of Liberty are just as crazy and contorted as the Paul Revere comments. This woman has the amazing ability to rewrite history to fit her message. And her followers accept it and even try to justify her ridiculous statements! Surely they really know better, right?
After reading the comments in her defense I must say that Cheetah in #1.19 actually has the most logical argument defending supporting her. It may be in poor taste, but at least he didn't have to make something up, he just stated what he likes about her. I'll give him credit for at least being honest about it which is more than I can say about almost all the other comments trying to defend her on this issue.
Still, I would think that the Palin Apologists would be at least a little ashamed for trying to support her ridiculous revisionist history of Revere's Midnight Ride. Most of them aren't, though. They try technicalities, spins, lies, and the artful dodge, but none have come right out and said, "Damn. It looks like she blew this one!"
It kind of speaks to their lack of integrity, doesn't it?
Republicans don't care how dumb this woman is. In fact, they kinda prefer the president to be dumb. Their president just needs to know how to sign whatever bill the Koch brothers decide needs passed. If they had someone too smart as president, their sinister agendas might be questioned or scrutinized by the one person who has the ability to veto the bill.
I'd just really like to know how she knew "they" understood the Constitution "back then" when Paul Revere's ride was 2 years before the Constitution was written. Channeling?
Did anyone tell her that wasn't marijuana, it was hemp?
Some of ya'll are missing the point and posting long comments for no reason really.
Simply because Palin's goofy-revisionist version of Paul Revere's ride can be spindoctored to be "sort-of" correct does not mean she had any idea what she was talking about.
Sarah Palin was correct on the History of Paul Revere. Here is the original historical text. I even kept the incorrect spelling as to not change anything:
"I observed a Wood at a Small distance, & made for that. When I got there, out Started Six officers, on Horse back,and orderd me to dismount;-one of them, who appeared to have the command, examined me, where I came from,& what my Name Was? I told him. it was Revere, he asked if it was Paul? I told him yes He asked me if I was an express? I answered in the afirmative. He demanded what time I left Boston? I told him; and aded, that their troops had catched aground in passing the River, and that There would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up. He imediately rode towards those who stoppd us, when all five of them came down upon a full gallop; one of them, whom I afterwards found to be Major Mitchel, of the 5th Regiment, Clapped his pistol to my head, called me by name, & told me he was going to ask me some questions, & if I did not give him true answers, he would blow my brains out. He then asked me similar questions to those above. He then orderd me to mount my Horse, after searching me for arms"
To the moron that said they have a PHD & Palin was off base I have to ask what history book do you teach from? Did it come with a prize like a cereal box would?
What you posted and what Palin said are different. Is that not apparent?
@Shuklack you stated "What you posted and what Palin said are different. Is that not apparent?"
I did not quote Palins comment. I am quoting historical text where after you read & comprehend it you can see Palin was correct. That is unless you have blinders on & do not wish to see. Read & comprehend first. Stop trying to "nit-pick" what I posted.
Backhouse....Check it out in history...not a poem. Palin was NOT wrong in what she said.
One of Obamma's speech writers must have been using the Heinz 57 ketchup the culprit and unintentionally put that number on his teleprompter.
.... sigh. You do realize that Palin's version and the historical text you posted are very different versions right? Or is THAT escaping you? It seems to be.
Simply because you can spin it so that one minor detail of Palin's version (ie he warned the British) fits actual history by pure coincidence does not mean she had any idea what she was talking about.
Revere did not shoot guns or 'red glare' (wherever she got that from) with the dual intention to warn the British and Colonists. Paul Revere knew nothing about the Constitution or the 2nd Amendment, since it hadn't been written yet. On and on and on.
Get it?
@Roy WIlson - there's no hope that you will ever take off your ideological bloinders and think for yourself but I will clue you in on a bit of English language - the phrase is "cast aspersions" not dispersions. Do you resemble that incineration?
I cannot top the first poster on this thread. Well done. And I think the rest of you have pretty much said it all. Nothing left for me except one observation.
I really LOVE Sarah Palin. She is sort of a combination of Lucille Ball and Ilsa, she-wolf of the SS. No comedienne can top her malapropisms. Tina Fey will only have to dress up like her again and repeat ver batim (sp?) what she said about Paul Revere and it will be hysterical.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, for whomever is responsible for Sarah Palin. What a gift to us, the American people and what a boat anchor she is around the necks or the GOP/TP.
God Bless Sarah Palin. Long may she rant in ignorance.
Obama/Biden 2012 The INTELLIGENT Choice.
@Shuklack: Maybe I need to break this down to a 2nd grade level so you can understand this.
You are so badly wanting a "gotcha" moment with Palin your liberal bias is glowing.
I simply posted original historical text. It's very easy to read & comprehend that Paul Revere did in fact warn the British. Whether you don't believe this because it was coerced or not shows your lack of understanding.
Nice try but actual intellectuals can see the truth. All the pundits were loaded with apologies to Palin over the weekend on every news channel, in written news articles.
Your references to Palin's quote are not factual by the way. Did you read & hear it yourself? It's on news sites.
You my friend are a perfect example & poster child for the liberal democratic movement.
You remind me of a Ronald Reagan Quote "It isn't that Liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so much that isn't so."
Palin:
"Part of his ride was to warn the British that were already there. That, hey, you're not going to succeed. You're not going to take American arms. You are not going to beat our own well-armed persons, individual, private militia that we have,"
I think nonjko interprets this best:
"What she said was that Revere was out there giving the middle finger to the Brits. "...that they weren't going to take our arms... as he's riding his horse through town sounding those shots and ringing those bells... that we were gonna be secure and we were gonna be free."
Actually history:
Revere warned the British only after being captured and questioned.
So, Revere did indeed happen to answer the questions of a Brit commander when accosted. It takes a whole lot of salt to fit that into what Palin said. I'm sorry if I'm not going to swallow that spoonful of spun BS you are offering as an explanation.
Your baseless attacks on my intelligence are unwarranted and only make apparent your own insecurities.
Well Palmettohawk, since we do not have a link to the "actual historical text" we have to take your word for it huh? A link would have helped to support your argument.
But reading and re-reading your "actual historical text" I do not find any inconsistency in what history teaches us and several unaccounted for inconsistencies in what Palin said.
She said the British wanted to take our guns. Huh?
That Revere fired guns and rang bells. Huh?
and so it goes.
I repeat. No comedy writer could write funnier lines for a political bimbo to spout. Tina Fey will only have to repeat her little diatribe word for word and it will be hysterical (not historical).
Obama/Biden 2010
"Sarah Palin was correct on the History of Paul Revere."
No, she was not. Palin stated that it was the intention of Paul Revere's ride to alert the British forces. That is patently false and there is no evidence to support her story. Revere divulged some details of his ride after he was captured by the British and only under duress, and after he had warned patriot militias, but the purpose of Revere's ride was in no way, shape, or form intended to warn, alert, or intimidate the British.
To quote the addled Mrs. Palin:
Part of his ride was to warn the British that were already there. That, hey, you're not going to succeed. You're not going to take American arms. You are not going to beat our own well-armed persons, individual, private militia that we have," she added.
Palin manufactured this imaginary version of a historical event to validate her own personal political agenda. That's all.
I will get suspended for this, but will Newsvine "F UCKING" change the voting system?!?
Seriously! Change the voting system to a "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" system. Too many thumbs down over the thumbs up and the post gets collapse, but not the whole damn thread. This is ridiculous! Too many good comments get collapsed because of pettiness and simple mindedness! However, if this is impossible to do so, at least acknowledge it!!!
As for the Code of Conduct, I'm willing to receive several days suspension for NewsVine to at least notice this request. I've been posting it for over a month!
Jerko, appropriate name. You need to know your U.S. history. The British troops most certainly were sent to TAKE AWAY OUR GUNS. That was one of their missions. Take away or destroy any war stockpiles. You people are soooo stupid.
Palin is so stupid. She thinks there are 50 states instead of 57, she thinks Austrians speak german instead of Austrian, or that our corp are corpse, she also missed out on the summer of recovery last year, or how to propose a toast to the Queen, or she can speak without a teleprompter, or to use the term "retard" on the Jay Leno show. And she doesn't even hold an office!
That's a bit different than what she is alluding to, ie 2nd Amendment Gun Rights. Taking away your hunting rifles and pistols is not the same as war stockpiles.
Unless, you feel that the 2nd Amendment covers a citizen's war stockpiles lol.
Hell, the prez thought it was 2008 on may 24th. That is a sign of brilliance compared to the average lib! hahahaha.
Really, Act2? ... Really?
That's all you've got?
Act2 gets an 'F' in name-calling. Something every 5 year-old should be excellent at.
I can understand a mistake like that. I'm pretty sure we all have signed the wrong date/year down especially when distracted. Birthday, the previous year, etc etc. Common mistake.
But this isn't an 'oops' moment. A 'brain fart' that made her forget actual history. No, the fact is she didn't know it in the first place. Which is ok in my book, I don't expect everyone to be a history buff - but if you are going to cite a historical event (especially to spin it to make a political point) at least get your facts straight.
There is a big difference between the two. It shows real desperation to cite a simple common mistake like accidently writing in the wrong date or getting some numbers mixed up (and admitting the mistake) - and then comparing it to Palin's steadfast ignorance as if they are somehow equal in their stupidity.
Seriously, her references to "well armed militias" is an obvious intent to tie in Paul Revere's ride to the 2nd Amendment, and her own political ideologies.
But ya'll keep spinning.
Also Act2 is a child, has been consistently.
"I can understand a mistake like that. I'm pretty sure we all have signed the wrong date/year down especially when distracted. Birthday, the previous year, etc etc. Common mistake."
Really? Thinking it's 3 years earlier is common to you?
REALLY?!
Yeah. Actually. Especially when you work in admin or any duty that requires you to remember/write down dates frequently. It is exceedingly common.
You may have never worked in such a field, but if you did you wouldn't be at all surprised. Dates can spark memories - possibly May 24th 2008 was an important day, or a day which he had to write down on a lot of paperwork. That can spark a 'muscle memory.' The year 2008 was important, when was the last time he was in Britain? In that location? When was the last time he had to sign a registrar? There are a million little reasons that can spark a 'brain fart' like that.
Ever fill out paperwork on your birthday, and accidently write your birth-year down when you meant the current date? How about your kid's birthdays?
And I will say it again, having a 'senior moment' and writing in the wrong year pales in comparison to Palin's general overall stupidity on almost every subject. Even considering the two to be equal in their level of ignorance is beyond ridiculous.
He didn't ACTUALLY think it was 3 years earlier, like he was in a time warp or something. I wrote 2005 on a document earlier today because I was going through a bunch of files from that year all week. I didn't actually think it was 2005, I just had a 'duh' moment.
What is she going to come up with next....that there are 57 states???? Oh sorry that one was allready done by a different jack a$$.
Aggie,
Now you're talking....your idea about the 57 varieties. Yes, we can have fun filling in all the blanks and it will make great fiction and a few laughs.
Now Aggie let's have a cup of coffee/tea or a glass of water, your choice. All for now.
You're grasping for straws when you cite a verbal flub from someone that obviously knows the actual number of states - and compare it to Palin's complete lack of knowledge about US history as if they are somehow equal in their ignorance.
One was a orator's mixup. Something quickly acknowledged and corrected. Palin's gaffe here is nothing like that.
It's not an "oops, I didn't mean that Paul Revere went around telling off the British with gunshots and bells that they best not infringe on American's 2nd Amendment Rights!" - what I actually meant was....
You really can't equate total wrongness with a slip of the tongue.
Oh, and I thought it was to protect our right to hunt wolves from helicopters!
Anybody who actually believes that this woman is wise or smart, has to be even dumber than she is.
Boomdawg - what a totally ignorant post. Our Constitution was NOT based on the Bible. In fact, the founders of our country made very sure not to have any religious "speak" in the constitution. You far righters are so totally clueless.
I wrote a date the other day that was 2 years prior... I accidentally wrote my sons birthdate while signing refinancing paperwork 2 days after his 2nd bday. @!$%# happens.
Palin stated that it was Reveres intention to warn the British on his midnight ride. It wasn't. Plain and simple. She is wrong. Yea he did end up warning them under stress, but she just happened to get that right. Its called a coincidence. BUT it was not his intent to do so. Also, no bells were rung or shots fired. She was wrong on several points. Just because one of several details in her statement (which she obviously had to think really hard about, and stumbled over) was correct, doesnt mean she was right. She even reiterated to say she was right. When she did this she said it was his intent to warn the British. That is where she became unbelievably wrong and insulted all of America. (or at least the ones that can actually use reasoning and logic)6
What a pathetic freakin moron the "Mama Grizz" is! She is the epitome of narcissism for not acknowledging her misspeak. She shows all the classic signs of a compulsive liar...Oh! wait...this makes her a perfect GOP/TP candidate!
This bus tour to highlight American history is a failure. No one is talking about the historical places they are not being highlighted. First go onto her SaraPac site and the first thing they do is ask for a donation. A bunch of fools donated to send her and her family on a bus tour to basically campaigne to see if she should throw her hat in the ring, not to highlight America, please anyone who buys that is just ignorant. So she got a bunch of fools paying for her trip. Good job she just took her family on vacation on your dime. If she really wanted to highlight America's historic sights why didn't she send a bunch of school kids on the bus tour so they can soak up America's history. She is a opportunist and nothing more.
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Don't derail like this, Doug Ponders. Seed an article if you think it's important.
Or, comment on any of the several articles and discussions on Newsvine about Weiner. You're suspended for a day for violating #4 of the Code of Honor. Post on-topic.
1.56, 1.71 deleted, miked-332794 and ForWhatItsWorth-2708556 trading two-liner jokes about Democrats and Republicans that were off-topic and unfunny 20 years ago.
2 deleted, derail about Trig Palin, didn't go anywhere.
Is it safe to finally say that these 'hate-Palinists' (above) need to look in a mirror without getting collapsed?
My guess is that more than half of the crisitisms above reflect an author 10 times as illiterate as Palin and/or are simply jealous of her success.
Justoneguy, I don't hate her or am I in anyway jealous of her success. True success is not at the expense of others and she using people and making then think she cares about them and America. Everything she has done so far, like the TV show and this bus tour is self serving. She was serving Alaska and she quit, now she using this tour to see if she can throw her hat into the 2012 election. Its not hate, its pity, for her who actually believes her own hype and the not too bright people giving her money. Like I said she is vacationing on thier dime.
I'm going to start calling Sarah Palin "Sideshow Bob", because that's all she is: a sideshow clown in a three-ring circus. She is nothing but an idiot and a distraction. Quite frankly I'd like to have a serious alternative to Barrack Obama to vote for come 2012, and not another choice between the devil(corruption) and the deep blue sea (crazy).
If we never hear from her again it will be too soon.
In the first place, Paul Revere likely was not a fool and only a fool would inform the enemy of anything before an attack or the resulting defense. Sarah Palin got caught out being ignorant (again) and then turned to a ridiculous explaination (as always). I'm convinced that this country will someday have a female president, biut not this train wreck. All she is accomplishing is making it more difficult, by affirming a negative stereotype about women, for the next female politician who aspires to the white house. She really needs a big cup of "shut the hell up".
At least Palin hasn't destroyed the country like the odumbo has! You guys are calling palin a liar, would you like a list of the odumbo lies? I will assure you they far outnumber palin's and are far more damaging to our country!
Stupid is as stupid does.
I'm sorry, but the Palindrome is a blithering idiot, plain and simple and she proves it every time she opens her yap.
Act2 -
She hasnt gotten a chance to destroy the country and hopefully never will. Palin is a liar. Just because I know she is a liar, doesnt mean I dont know Obama isn't. I assure you that Palins lies and misinformation are much more stupid than Obamas. They are also hurting any other female who might aspire to be a president.
Well, technically, at the time, we were all still subjects to the British crown, so it a way, I guess, she was kind of correct. Also, given the fact that she can see Britian from her house in Alaska, to protect us in case they try to invade, I guess I will take her work on it...../sarc
nonkjo
Several interesting points, there was an article in the Boston Herald this morning backing up both Sarah Palin and Your points, by historians there in Boston,but I guess facts really don't matter, I also noticed that when You made your original post trying to bring the actual facts into the discussion, it was collapsed ," by the community", followed by the obligatory Palin derision, ad nauseum,on the part of those whose job it is to ridicule her at every turn in order to insure that no females in the Democrat camp would ever dare to take a look at what a successful self made woman outside of the Democratic Party has been able to do with herself, and more importantly, what she has been able to do without their,"help",( Wife, Mother with no abortions, even though she had a special needs child, hunter, fisherman,rugged outdoorsman,College educated,Mayor, Governor, Vice Presidential candidate,author, and multi-millionaire), because the dirty little secret is, if women started to see what they are capable of doing, without the so called, "help", of the Democratic Party, it would be an absolute disaster for the Democrat Progressives. Imagine if the women of the Democratic Party,(which is majority female), who have been held down in economic slavery and unreasoning fear for all these years by their Democrat "Leaders",very few of whom are women,and have been told by them they can't make it without their, "help",imagine if those women started saying ,"keep your subsistence level welfare checks and your abortion mills,I can make it on my own!", the Democratic Party would cease to exist! So, the Dems, out of fear for their own political survival and the need for a subservient , non questioning base,(look at what they have done throughout the years, to Blacks, Women, and now Hispanics ,fear mongering is the name , control is the game) ,will continue to ridicule Sarah Palin, (Facts? who needs facts?), and anyone else who they perceive as a threat to their machine, will get the same treatment by the Dems and their well paid, compliant, lapdogs in the media ,.....and Democratic women?, (or whoever the patsies of the day happen to be), They will continue to live in economic slavery and servitude to their political masters as long as the Dems can make it happen,or, for as long as the slaves let it happen.
Oh yeah right, J.D. Sill, The Boston Herald is nothing but a neocon rag. Naturally, they would defend the altering of history by that dumb broad.
Actual the article just says she was right about warning the redcoats not about her timeline being right
Klunk Klunk!
That noise was the Sons of Liberty rolling over in their graves...
@Shuklack You commented on the following :
"You're grasping for straws when you cite a verbal flub from someone that obviously knows the actual number of states - and compare it to Palin's complete lack of knowledge about US history as if they are somehow equal in their ignorance.
One was a orator's mixup. Something quickly acknowledged and corrected. Palin's gaffe here is nothing like that."
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You almost had people going like you know what you are talking about but we all see you are just an apologist for the Democratic Party & Obama.
Obama did say "I have been to 57 States and have one, no two more to go" And your reply is it was just a mixup? BTW it was NEVER CORRECTED by Obama's own mouth.
But as you can plainly see just like all the historians coming out that Palin did NOT get Paul Revere history wrong, she was correct.
Thanks for showing everyone you complete nonsense & liberal bias. The truth has no agenda & you don't know what the truth is.
a) Big difference between misspeaking and correcting onesself and getting history wrong, then defending your erroneous claim with pseudo-facts.
b) the main reason "Palin never ruined our country" is because she was not elected president. She never really had an opportunity.
All these misinformed libs. Do you realize Palin was correct and the lame stream media is bashing her falsely and you obamites are just echoing lies? Get more informed, your ignorance is showing! And Trig Pailn could do a better job than odumbo!
Try this on for size! news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20110606/us_ac/8596661_sarah_palin
So many clever, clever puns! I am dazzled by your intellect!
"Article not found or expired on Yahoo! News"
Is what I got when I went to your link, Act2.
No, she wasn't right. The fact that bells were ringing doesn't mean that Paul Revere, or even the people in charge of warning the town that the British were coming doesn't mean that they were meant as a warning.
Being captured and confessing something is not "warning the British".
And firing multiple warning shots into the air while riding on horseback with a musket is improbable, extremely difficult, and far too inconvenient to be of any practical value.
Palin wasn't right, but I'll give you this... If you stretch reality to the absolute brink, she's not 100% wrong. About 99% wrong, but not 100. There were bells, he did end up speaking to the British against his will, and there were likely warning shots fired when combat was about to commence.
Act 2 -
She wasn't right. Period. She stated that part of Paul Reveres ride was to warn the British. Basically that says that one of the reasons he was doing this ride was to warn them. 100% wrong.
He also did not ring bells nor did he fire shots.
Since your "article" doesnt exist can you please explain to me how she was possibly right? If she were taking a test in school, she would have failed miserably.
Not that I actually believe she meant this, but... they could be metaphorical bells and shots?
Palin does not know what 'metaphor' is...
she thinks its a character from xmen
hahahahaha that was awesome.
Yes BIG DEAL, Obama said we had 57 states.....
obama corrected himself. this winch insists she's right. she is an idiot plain and simple. and all of her followers are idiot's to. are you one of her followers?
BS
Hardcoffee Of course he was referring to the number of Primaries not really the number of states.
Has Palin ever corrected herself for a gaffe. Doesn't that tell you something about this women. I also ask her supporters to explain how Paul Reveres ride had anything to do with the 2ed Amendment. If history is arbitrary and open to everyones half bake interpretations why even bother with recording and studying it.
A correction and explanation that he had been in 47 states was made the following day and was reported on Fox (of all places).
Palin has most assuredly been told of her misspeak and decided to stick with her very imaginative answer to a very simple question.
Stupid? Maybe. Boneheaded? Absolutely.
Hardcoffeeat6am
How about some Hardfacts.............. If you are going to make a statement like that you better be able to back it up.
grounds control to major tom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
There are 50 states, Plus the District of Columbia, and territories Guam, American Samoa, Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands. The territories only participate in primaries and are not part of the Electoral College. The Marshall Islands are a US Protectorate.
Obama also corrected the Chief Justice of the Supreme court on how to correctly deliver the Presidential Oath.
Except with this idiot, when she screws up an word in the English language, the Oxford actually ADOPTS the word. The Oxford lost all credibility with me years ago when they keep trying to remain "relevent" by adding slang, made up Palin words etc. It really gets under my skin. So, now some rep state leg will try to adopt new history books with the new stated reason for Paul's ride...
Nobody pay attention to Roy Wilson. Just a troll who says everything to get a rise out of us. He really isn't worth the time to debate, because he seldom ever provides facts or links to facts.
Hardcoffeeat6am
MajorTom to ground control, I thought I was the one floating out in space......
Ah I see, the "Fix" News line up, let's cherry pick some bloopers of the POTUS and gloat over them. Just Brillant! Why don't you post links to all of President Bushs' gaffs and compare the list and see who wins that contest? DUH!
Considering that "Paul Revere's Ride" is one of the 1 or 2 things that most Americans know about the Revolution, how could she have gotten this damn thing wrong?
Good God, already.
It's not just the 57 states gaffe Obama made..... this list of his blunders could literally go on for pages. For the sake of expediency here are just a very few of our President's gaffes....
"UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? It's the Post Office that's always having problems." –attempting to make the case for government-run healthcare, while simultaneously undercutting his own argument, Portsmouth, N.H., Aug. 11, 2009
"The Cambridge police acted stupidly." —commenting on a white police officer's arrest of black scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. at his home in Cambridge, Mass., at a news conference, July 22, 2009
"The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and inefficiencies to our health care system." --in remarks after a health care roundtable with physicians, nurses and health care providers, Washington, D.C., July 20, 2009
"It was also interesting to see that political interaction in Europe is not that different from the United States Senate. There's a lot of -- I don't know what the term is in Austrian, wheeling and dealing." --confusing German for "Austrian," a language which does not exist, Strasbourg, France, April 6, 2009
"No, no. I have been practicing...I bowled a 129. It's like -- it was like Special Olympics, or something." --making an off-hand joke during an appearance on "The Tonight Show", March 19, 2009 (Obama later called the head of the Special Olympics to apologize)
"I didn't want to get into a Nancy Reagan thing about doing any seances." --after saying he had spoken with all the living presidents as he prepared to take office, Washington, D.C., Nov. 7, 2008 (Obama later called Nancy Reagan to apologize)
"I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." -- defending his tax plan to Joe the Plumber, who argued that Obama's policy hurts small-business owners like himself, Toledo, Ohio, Oct. 12, 2008
Unfortunately his gaffes also include: Obamacare, illegal immigration, rising unemployment, more families on welfare and food stamps than ever before, quadrupling the deficit..... these gaffes are not funny and will continue to damage the country for a very long time! Even beyond 2012 when he will be replaced with a leader, not a politician full of rhetoric!
Well, I think she's about as smart as GWB, and he said some really stupid stuff, and we voted for him for a second term, so I think we should give her a chance. Sarah for President!!!
Blah blah blah...that 57 State old nugget it tiresome.
Your President corrected himself.
Your gal just makes things worse.
MikeD....YOu conservatives blew it when you got too too greedy with healthcare insurance and then all the young neocons on Wall Street took all that premium insurance payments and used it to gamble on high risk investments.
President Obama was correct the USPS is in trouble. UPS and Fedex are doing just fine. Anymore silliness?
UPS and FedEx aren't really doing very bad. USPS (post office) is the one that is always having issues. The problem isn't that its government run. The problem is that they dont make enough money because no one sends items by mail anymore.
They did act stupidly...
"The reforms we SEEK" They didnt get what they sought.
Austrian is a form of German. Its called Austrian-German. Its kind of like American English which is what people in America speak. Im not saying that he didnt actually mean German because I don't know, but he isn't as far off as Palin was with the Paul Revere thing.
While not politically correct, he isn't necessarily wrong.
I dont know anything about this statement...
He says he thinks. That is an opinion. It is his opinion that it is good for everybody. Palin says that Paul Revere rang bells and fired shots... He didnt. That is fact.
Obamacare is not as bad as some people seem to think and has helped a lot of people. It is also the same basic plan that republicans tried to pass years ago. Illegal immigration was an issue long before he became president. Unemployment was rising before he was elected. More families on welfare and food stamps is a consequence of the recession that started before he was elected president. Bush didnt really do a good job on the deficit either... (or any of the other issues you brought up)
In the first place, Paul Revere likely was not a fool and only a fool would inform the enemy of anything before an attack or the resulting defense. Sarah Palin got caught out being ignorant (again) and then turned to a ridiculous explaination (as always). I'm convinced that this country will someday have a female president, biut not this train wreck. All she is accomplishing is making it more difficult, by affirming a negative stereotype about women, for the next female politician who aspires to the white house. She really needs a big cup of "shut the hell up".
Hardcoffeeat6am
Candidate Obama's statement about "57 states" was quite clearly a slip of the tongue. There were 57 primary elections in locations like Puerto Rico, Washington DC, and American Samoa, in addition to the 50 states. So, in a sleep-deprived state he said "57 states" rather than "57 elections" and nit-picking conservatives have been ranting about it ever since. News flash: Barack Obama did and does know how many states we have in the union and when he makes a mistake he admits it. Sarah Palin never admits a mistake and she makes a lot of them. The McCain Palin campaign manager said of her preparation for the VP debates, "She doesn't know anything!" (source: "Game Change")
There is a vast difference between a slip of the tongue such as Obama's and a failure to grasp elementary school American history (Palin).
Why must we continue to focus the spotlight on this idiot?
JD-276988
It's a goog thing. It let's everyone know that behind the facade is an empty lot.
@ MajorTom: Heh, it is a good thing, but I weep for those who haven't figured it out by now. And I certainly hope they represent a small, small fraction of the country.
B Murphy
"It's a goog thing." Sorry Ffreudian slip, LOL
I do wish she would simply go away. Even her most rabid defenders are sitting this one out. Still, someone is still going to insist she is correct - that scares me!
JD-276988 - Why don't you ask that question of the liberal media. They have been whining about Ms. Palin not giving them a tour schedule or scheduling interviews since the tour started. The media for some reason hates Palin and in the last election were determined to defeat her. Any of you remember the other female who was actually running for president? She was kicking A and taking names until the media fell in love with Barack Obama and turned on her. Who knows, if it had not been for the media, we might be complaining about President Hilary Clinton now.
I agree the spotlight should not be on what an idiot does ...I am just thankful that McCain / Pailin lost the election .. Our country was screwed so bad under GWB it will take another 4 years to start into full recovery and a balanced budget will take 10 more years .. if the McCain / Palin team would have won we never would have been able to get even this far .. now people like Boehner and Ryan want to bring our country .. back to the cliff and push it over .. then the corporations and top 2% will have there country back .. with morons voteing for idiots like Palin our days of world leadership are numbered
The real issues is, and will continue to be, the sad, no, pathetic, fact that there are significant numbers of right wing morons who will find some justification in supporting this fool. America is truly doomed if the utter stupidity of some percentage of the population continues to expand as it has.
Conservatives seem unable to do simple economic math, they rewrite history, and they accept no responsibility for the mess they have made. They have however mastered the art of propaganda. Keep telling lies and stand in the way of progress. You've now got the moron vote, the fascist vote. the bigot vote, the fanatic vote . . . you can't lose.
Rick - the moron Palin, did everything she could during the 2008 election to bring attention to and have it forcus on her. She is the only reason the media follows her. And, if Hilary Clinton had won no doubt you'd be complaining about her. I'm guessing you'd complain about anyone who isn't Republican. Thank God we don't have McClain/Palin in power. We would have absolutely no chance of recovery if those two imbecilles were running things.
She's in denial about her mistakes.
As one who votes mostly Republican, I have to say at this point that I fear the Democrats will do everything they can to make sure Sarah Palin gets the Republican nomination for President. It might be the best way to insure a Democratic win.
She's good lookin', but she's dumber than a box of rocks.
JD...Palin is a microphone mouth. A certified member of the "Spotlight On Me" brigade. If you don't pay attention to her, she slathers herself all over the place so you trip over her or that ever gaping maw of hers.
One thing she does prove is that she has never lived in the Northeast. Most of us who live in New England or Central Atlantic states live with our American history in a way Palin never can and never will. That's why some of these red states want to revise that history. They feel excluded from the earliest beginnings of this country. Anyone who has ever visited Nantucket, Cape Cod, Boston, Philadelphia, Trenton, Newport RI or Mystic CT, comes away with a sense of life in colonial days and the brilliance of George Washington during the Revolutionary War. If you haven't lived an entire lifetime among these historical places, you can't possibly know how often you encounter one or more reminders on a daily basis.
It's not just the "57 states" gaffe Obama has made during his first term..... the list of his blunders could literally go on for pages. For the sake of expediency here are just a very few of our President's gaffes....
"UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? It's the Post Office that's always having problems." –attempting to make the case for government-run healthcare, while simultaneously undercutting his own argument, Portsmouth, N.H., Aug. 11, 2009
"The Cambridge police acted stupidly." —commenting on a white police officer's arrest of black scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. at his home in Cambridge, Mass., at a news conference, July 22, 2009
"The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and inefficiencies to our health care system." --in remarks after a health care roundtable with physicians, nurses and health care providers, Washington, D.C., July 20, 2009
"It was also interesting to see that political interaction in Europe is not that different from the United States Senate. There's a lot of -- I don't know what the term is in Austrian, wheeling and dealing." --confusing German for "Austrian," a language which does not exist, Strasbourg, France, April 6, 2009
"No, no. I have been practicing...I bowled a 129. It's like -- it was like Special Olympics, or something." --making an off-hand joke during an appearance on "The Tonight Show", March 19, 2009 (Obama later called the head of the Special Olympics to apologize)
"I didn't want to get into a Nancy Reagan thing about doing any seances." --after saying he had spoken with all the living presidents as he prepared to take office, Washington, D.C., Nov. 7, 2008 (Obama later called Nancy Reagan to apologize)
"I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." -- defending his tax plan to Joe the Plumber, who argued that Obama's policy hurts small-business owners like himself, Toledo, Ohio, Oct. 12, 2008
Unfortunately his gaffes also include: Obamacare, illegal immigration, rising unemployment, more families on welfare and food stamps than ever before, quadrupling the deficit..... these gaffes are not funny and will continue to damage the country for a very long time! Even beyond 2012 when he will be replaced with a leader, not a politician full of rhetoric!
In making public gaffes, Obama could beat Palin with his tongue tied behind his back. Unfortunately as President, Elmer Fudd could do a better job than him.... Obama's record speaks for itself.... and his gaffes are also of public record.
Miked - and we could go on for books about the Palin/Bachmann mistakes. And, please, don't get me started on the gaffes Bush made. And, if you want to talk about administrative mistakes, no one has a corner on them like Bush - Iraq war; not finding Osama bin Laden (we don't really care about him anymore -2003); immigration (he had a bill to bring them to citizenship which he and McCain put together); rising unemployment; the economy going into a downward spiral; out of control healthcare costs; the increasing deficit; etc.
Because people still listen to her and believe her. Hell, she's not even running for president (yet), and she's got the most publicity going for her. And right now, she's skirting the FEC rules by not officially being in the race, but using PAC money to "go on a family vacation". And for the record, in 2010, SarahPAC, which is supposed to donate money to Republican candidates, took in $5.6m, and actually donated $461,000 to federal Republican candidates. Spending or pocketing the rest for herself.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?cycle=2010&strID=C00458588
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I hate to disagree, but what is behind the facade is a dangerous a**hole; that she still has so many folks throwing money at her shows just how dangerous.
Seeing and listening to her makes me think of "trailer trash" trying to portray herself as the "intelligentsia". She comes across as "Roseanne" masquerading as a high society snob. But everytime she opens her mouth, her true status is confirmed. Remember McCain sending her to New York with his handlers to buy her thousands of dollars worth of clothes so that she coud "look" Vice Presidential? Well the old adage applied...no matter how much lipstick you put on a pig, you still have a pig. There is absolutely no way she'll run in 2012, she knows that sooner or later, she'll have to debate someone on live TV. At this point, a sixth grader would crush her in a debate, and anyone associated with her "campaign" would be painfully aware of that. She will continue to milk this, however, right up until she has to "sh!t or get off the pot". There ARE two things she excels at...media whoring and making herself rich. Pretending she's Presidential material and that she's intelligent or in any way valid on the national scene is the only way to keep herself in the spotlight. Especially since she doesn't have any more daughters old enough to pimp out on shows like "Dancing With The Stars".
Why do the liberals feel the need to throw insults and jokes at Palin? They are afraid, they are very frightened because if she isn't around to throw mud at then maybe they will have to start answering questions about why Obama, the neophyte President hasn't learned how to be a leader in the last 3 years!
They cannot attribute any good things he's done so far, nor can they explain his gaffes and blunders.... it is much easier to go after Palin and safer for them. What cowards liberals really are....! Can we really afford another 4 years of this crap? You won't ever get any answers to these questions from a liberal.... but boy can they talk trash about Palin! I have to thank her for exposing the liberal bias upon which they and the media feeds upon... like rats in a feeding frenzy.... all we can do is watch and smile!
Meanwhile the country continues to go down the toilet. 2012 is coming and we know the liberals, with help from Acorn will vote frequently (wink, wink) so the rest of us will have to work a little harder to stop that toilet from flushing! God help us! Oops, God is another trigger word the liberals will jump on.... look out!
"Why do the liberals feel the need to throw insults and jokes at Palin?"
followed by:
"They cannot attribute any good things he's done so far, nor can they explain his gaffes and blunders.... it is much easier to go after Palin and safer for them. What cowards liberals really are....! Can we really afford another 4 years of this crap? "
irony!
Im not a liberal, but my reason is that she makes it to easy... She should just not open her mouth. I kinda think maybe she does it on purpose for the attention...
Just what we need, another Bush-a-like, open mouth in public, insert foot. We do not need another president that makes this country out to sound like a fool. Bush made us suffer, and look ignorant, long enough.
Palin wants to meet Margaret Thatcher. Hmm. Thatcher has been out of office for more than 20 years. Isn't she actually dead?
Thatcher isn't dead, but she is 86 years old.
Miked - if I were you I would try to focus attention away from all the morons the GOP is running too. But, you don't understand at all, do you? The GOP offers no answers - just jokes. And, liberals and Independents are not afraid of Palin. She adds humor to otherwise normal days. She is nothing but a joke - just like Gingrich, Bachmann, Santorum, Romney, etc........
Palin is a MORON--nothing else! Why does the press feel the need to cover her ignorance?
Because it gets read. People get paid to have their stories published, read and commented on. Little Miss Glasses is an easy story these days.
Yopblog
Because this idiot is talking about being the leader of the free world and we need to know what our potential president thinks or says. What would it be like if we elected this nutcase without knowing who she really is, like John McCain chose her before he really knew her. It wouldn't be good for our country.
Because it's funny, as well as sad. Too bad she ever got on the national stage. Thanks a bunch, Maverick.
She is the penultimate know-nothing, and seems proud of it. Scary and appalling that anyone could defend her. Palin with the nuclear football? Puleeze! She might decide she is *chosen* to intiate Armageddon.
She is annoying, screechy, stupid, and scary.
It's pathetic that she continues to deny the mistake.
Hey! Sarah Palin...Go visit the National Archives in Washington DC. Your stupidity will be proven easily by all of the earliest documents that the entire American Revolution was about taxation without representation. In fact, Mrs. Palin, how about you go to DC and spend some time studying Colonial history instead of trying to revise it?
She wants the American Revolution to somehow justify the current murderous glut of gun running in this country. Boy oh boy...would I love to see her do that when Revere was alive. That would have forever ended that NRA BS that they are a militia and that's what the 2nd Amendment is all about. Oh really? Done any studying on the early American militias and why they existed, Mrs. Palin?
Yeesh, taxpayers foot the bill for the education of this twit? Methinks she learned far more in the back seat of a car and the subject was anything but history.
Yopblog...Palin is a pathetic example of the extremes the righties will all go to when they are desperate for attention. Unfortunately, Palin is making a huge fool of herself and refuses to face that. Her life is insipid and she has no accomplishments of long term worth to take credit for. So her pathetic public tours are all she has.
Because whats the difference right? Revere wasn't an American warning the AMERICANS of invading British troops and to stand at the ready or flee... But was instead a red coat informing his British brothers to retreat because the Americans some how inexplicably knew they were coming. This woman's stupidity becomes her. And I must say SHAME on every news media outlet that covers her at all. A loser because she lost and lost it, shes a quitter who now try's to tell others in the job she QUIT how to do it because her quitting the job obviously qualifies her for it?...
She has proven time and again her complete and sheer stupidity. It is not as though this is an isolated incident but rather it is a line in a string of gaffs. All of her ideas from her run have proven to be more than lack luster but incomplete and Un-workable and her knowledge of foreign policy? There is none. Her true corruption is soon to come to light when we finally see the e mails that have dogged her thus far. For all of these reasons she hinders and hurts America. She does not give any kind of help idea or strength to this country but instead divides it at a moments notice. For what? She won't run. She can't run and the fact she sat down with loony tune bankrupt the kid over there eating pizza with a fork well?.... She knows what she can do with that over there. ; ]
Cheers
If she is so awful, why do you care? You Libs should be trying to force her into the GOP nomination. I for one hope nobody runs against Current Management for the Democrat Nomination.
Satirical nonscence is a s follows. ; I know though right? Shes all like... Dog did it dog on it. I can do a bounty Hunter. Bristol, watch your mouth. [wasilly wink]. I m gonna do a bus tour to. I watch telivision I see whats hot. The Lame stream media just don't get it. I'm popular everywhere I go. I have a bus with me on it to prove it.
I must disclose that I to am a huge fan of bus tours. Gene Simmons you rock. Your tops kid. And no matter what they do I cant keep my eyes off you?!.. Anyhoo I shouldn't have said that. It didn't come out right.
Cheers
That's the idea. You know it's a winning scenario when even many Republican strategists admit a Palin vs. Obama election will definitely result in a second term for Obama.
I'm glad the press covers this kind of thing! If they didn't, how would we know what she was doing? I'm sure if this kind of crap didn't get covered, she'd have a much better shot at the white house.
I'm glad they do. She's hilarious and so are the idiots that bend over so far backwards to try and support her ignorant comments. I love reading Sarah Palin articles. Even more, I love reading comments made by Sarah Palin followers. What a hoot.
Seriously though, keep your enemies close and mark my words Sarah Palin is nothing less to free-thinking people.
6 deleted, John Galt 2112 grenade-trolling someone, possibly 'tools in the media and lefties who have a knee jerk reaction':
Come on. You made some points after that but this ruins it. You're suspended for a month for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
You know the rules.
What an incredible moron. Its like Bluto Blutarski in Animal House telling how the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, only she's not trying to be funny!
Forget it. She's rolling.
@ Paul: I'd vote for Bluto though, he definitely has shown he doesn't cater to the estabishment lol.
My question is, how would she know whether she's right or wrong? She's obviously illiterate.
Right On brother !!
Didn't Bluto end up a senator? Well, at least he went to one college, not like Palin's five, to finish her degree in journalism.
She may be a moron but there are people lining up to have her autograph their copy of her book and paying up to 6 figures to hear her rants. She's a brand name and it sells. I'd say she's playing the game pretty astutely and getting rich from it. You can't blame her for that. The morons are the people who pay attention to her, buy her book, watch her show, pump her ratings and take her seriously.
@ Andrew: There are countless examples of Americans with less than average intelligence. Just because the crazies come outta the woodwork to see another crazy, doesn't mean she has any legs to stand on.
Yeah, she's making money and getting attention, that's pretty much her main objective more or less.
*shrug*
Paul, funniest comment yet! I've got to watch Animal House again!
Andrew-2169556; Lots of people pay big bucks to see a COMEDIAN.
It is simply amazing how stupid she is, only not in a good way.
Paul bailey, thank you for reading my mind. I wonder what is Mccain thinking.
I must come to Palin's defense. It has been more than 2 years now since this woman appeared on the national scene. The news media and the general public have been all over her ever since. She is constantly pushed, or allowed access to, and within, areas of expertise which require at least, a working basic knowledge of a multiplicity of intertwined political and histotical data, past and present. The lady has no such knowledge or idea's relative to such, and obviously is absent the mental capability to grasp her deficiencies thereof, and like many of lower mental aptitude, she is happy to be the national dunce. I contend, we, who damn well know better, the media, especially "fox news", and the republican party, are being sorry as hell when we use this woman or anyone of like "lack of mental capacity" as the national fool. The fact she was Alaska's Governor tends to magnify the mean spirited exploitation. Let the lady find her way within her abilities, and within her natural and fitting elements.
You're a poet, you know that, Mac?
Sailcat: All of us are many things. We learn and relearn as we go along. Life is fleeting, but the time is joyful and enriching. We are most surely in this together and should therefore, partake of the collective sweetness of individual brotherhood. Humbley and in brotherhood I sincerely thank you. Respectfully
@paul, bluto did some damage to some p38 and a japanese submarine. Of course Everyone remembers the Japanes Sailor, "HOLLYWOOD HOLLYWOOD" ,
Palin is a MORON--nothing else! Whay does the press feel the need to cover this ignorance like it is a valid point of view?
Ask any tea partier, Bunker Hill was all about protecting all womens uterus's It was the shot of sperm heard round the world. I woner if Jay Leno would have her on his "jay walk" skit.? It would be a real hoot!
Why doesn't this chic take off that frumpy ass wig?
I continue to assert that Palin needs to take care of her children and stop masquerading around the country taunting us about her possible presidential bid.
Republican on the revolutionary war .
Wow. Lets elect this person. Here is what she said:
"...he who warned, uh, the...the British that they weren’t gonna be takin' away our arms...uh, by ringin' those bells and um...makin' sure as he's ridin' his horse through town...to send those warning shots and bells...that, uh, we were gonna be secure and...and we were gonna be free...and we were gonna be armed." June 2, 2011
I wish someone in a redcoat would have had her aborted.
I;m surprised she didn't say, that the Russians were coming, and that she can see ese them.
SHE WENT TO 4 YEARS OF HIGH SCHOOL AND 6 YEARS OF COLLEGE AND LEARNED NOTHING!!! steve schmidt was right when he said " she dosen't know anything. " she is an idiot and a narcissist.
Says a lot about the education system in the state of Idaho, doesn't it? Now you have the state eduction secratary wanting to do away with teachers and teaching the kids on computers.
Please run for President in 2012 Sara Palin so Obama can stomp the politics right out of you.
You have just described all the dems that I know.
Can you even imagine her at a Pres. debate? OMG
Cut her some slack. She IS a part of the dumbed-down generation. I still think she is capable of doing something worthy of her abilities... like an actress for a douche commercial.
I know which part she would play...
She's such an attention hog she'd want to do both parts.
From “Paul Revere’s Ride” by the Brandeis University historian David Hackett Fischer, Oxford Univesity Press, 1994, Page 185
Palin's timing might be off and she failed to mention a few key events, but it is documented that Paul Revere was captured and questioned by Major Edward Mitchell who instructed that Revere be taken at gunpoint to Lexington. Revere did warned Mitchell that the people had been alerted and were taking up arms to make a stand. The British were spooked and released Revere in order to make haste. This set of circumstances is discussed here:
From "Paul Revere and the World He Lived In" by Esther Forbes, Pulitzer Prize winning author and Newberry Medal Winner, page 267
The is a slight error here in the retelling, namely that Revere's saddle was cut. I attribute this to some forgetfulness of embellishment by by Richard Pope, the non-commissioned officer.
But here is an exerpt written by Revere himself about 23 years after his famous ride:
This letter is the transcript of the original manuscript held in the Manuscript Collection of Massachusetts Historical Society.
www.paul-revere-heritage.com/ride-letter-to-Belknap.html
Considering Palin was providing a candid comment without necessarily having the material right in front of her, she did hit amazingly close to the mark.
Of course, you can ignore the comments of Paul Revere, Esther Forbes a Pulitzer Prize winner and author of a Revere biography and a published university historian. But who's really the moron between all of you and Sarah Palin (hint: its not Palin).
So, on one hand, we have a former governor who is not a historian screwing up a few historical details of Paul Revere and on the other, we have a Harvard educated president who pronounces "corpsmen" as "corpse-men"...essentially, he can't read. And people give Obama a pass and call Palin dumb? Keep walking in lockstep, but the emperor still has no clothes!
Common Sense...OMG....too too too funny but so true. I agree. There is a hugely dumbed down generation out there. They rely far too much on what they see and read on history sites on the internet instead of the actual documents in government archives that are made public for their viewing. You ask anyone under the age of 50 what poem "one if by land and two if by sea, and I on the opposite shore will be" is part of and they give you a blank stare. They can tell you Brittany Spears last drunkosode and jailing or Snookie's last all nighter in the sack but they can't tell you who Longfellow is.
@nonkjo -- if you listen to the audio of Ms. Palin's statement about Paul Revere's ride, she stated: "he who warned the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms by ringin' those bells and making sure as he's ridin' his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were gonna be secure and we were gonna be free." Think her meaning is completely clear - that Revere, with warning shots and bells, was riding to warn the British. She was not talking about his capture and what occurred while he was held at gunpoint. Just because she stumbled upon "the mark" doesn't mean her intent or accounting of Paul Revere's ride is accurate. Even a blind pig finds an acorn once in a while.
Who's really the moron between those who find this woman's repeated gaffes and misstatements incredible (and ludicrous), and those who go to great lengths to defend her misstatements? (hint: not those who find them incredible)
@Lizzie:
Are you suggesting that the authors I quoted are not saying Revere warned the British?
I do not hold Palin to the standard of a history professor with a PhD who specializes in the American Revolution do I don't expect her to recite in detail an impromptu history of the war.
Were there bells? Yep. Were there gunshots? Yes (the devil is in the details though because the main issue is when were the shots heard.). Did Paul Revere warn the British? According to several scholars, yes (again, there are additional details necessary to paint a clear picture, but there is a body of research that says it did happen).
The funny thing is, you say she "stumbled on the mark" which I understand to mean you she was accidentally right? So what are you arguing about then, her delivery? That's pathetic!
Tell you what, as soon as you can explain how our president can fail to pronounce "corpsmen" from prepared remarks with the same level of interpretation and scrutiny and hateful vitriol, then I'll treat your opinion like it even matters!
@nonkjo -- if you're taking the trouble to reply, then it seems as though my opinion does matter.
I already stated what I meant. The people you quoted do say that Revere warned the British when he was captured and held at gunpoint, and I did not suggest otherwise. Ms. Palin, on the other hand, was clear that Paul Revere's ride (which occurred prior to his capture) was to warn the British. Capture and ride - 2 different things. 'Nuff said.
It's unfortunate that you think disagreeing with you or Ms. Palin, or re-purposing one of your own remarks, is "hateful vitriol." I don't hate Ms. Palin, nor did I speak of her with hate. For you to paint it otherwise says more about you than me.
@ nonjko,
What I find pathetic is your attempt to defend this woman. She did not have to go into detail about Paul Revere. The most she had to say was that he (Paul Revere) warned the colonists that the British were coming. Simple as that. Everyone in our generation learned this in elementary school.
She is so offensive to me. It is one thing to make a mistake, but to defend it is ridiculous. I cannot stand stupidity and lying. She is a master of both! I was hoping she would get the Republican nomination, but now I really hope that she doesn't. There has to be something redeeming about the Republicans, doesn't there?
There was someting redeeming about John McCain's speech when he conceded the 2008 election to President Obama. It was commendable. It's too bad for him that he didn't stand up to his party and select a qualified vice-presidential candidate.
It's sad. Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Eisenhower--they all must be turning in their graves at what the Republican party has become.
McCain would probably be President now if he would have stuck to his beliefs and had a different running mate. I think Sarah Palin did him in and people were terrified that she would be President if something happened to him.
Where are the smart Republican women like Elizabeth Dole or Christine Whitman? Why are only the idiots like Palin and Bachman getting the spotlight? Hell, McCain would have been better off having his wife run with him as Vice President, she is a hell of a lot smarter than Palin.
The reason politicians like Palin and Bachman (and Ryan, Boehner, Santorum, and even Trump) are popular in the Republican Party is people it is full of people who like simple answers to hard questions.
If it doesn't fit on a bumper sticker, it isn't true.
Mke Ten Although either way I would have never voted for Senator McCain. You are absolutely right! Had he chosen an intelligent running mate female or male he would have had a much, much better chance of winning. I do sincerely believe voters were afraid if they voted for him something might happen to him and she would be President. How scary the thought!
If McCain had gone against his party and named Lieberman as his VP he might have gotten many of the democrats that weren't under Obama's spell and who voted for Clinton. But a choice of Obama vs Palin ... Obama wins hands down.
What really scares me is they might get her elected, and she would be that much closer to those nuke switches. Because she would use them.
McCain's being front runner for the White House was all a RNC set up. They never wanted McCain in the first place. They didn't really care if they won in 2008. Why? Take a look at the mess Bush and Cheney left. Can you really see Republicans taking blame for that one if McCain was elected? Can you really see Republicans making things better after they already made it worse?
I've always respected Senator McCain even when I don't always agree with him. He is the last of the honorable countrymen we have in this nation. He may not always be on the mark. But his country is his real first love. He's never really been the neoconservative that Boehner, McConnell, Perry, Walker or the rest of the Twerps of the GOP are.
But, the reality is that had McCain won, the country would have been done in by the GOP. You don't go from creating a mess to fixing it in a year or 2.
Even if McCain was elected, he'd still have had a Democratic majority Congress and Senate...that is what would have done him in... That was one of Bush's yokes.
but McCain could and had in the past reached across the isle and worked with the other side. Most of his GOP brethren wont even give the other side the time of day much less work with them.
You can't blame Palin because she doesn't know American history. She only wants to be President of the United States. Is knowing American history a qualification?
Obama didn't think so.
He didn't even think it was important how many states there are in the United states.
To: Laurie Kellman and the rest of the bedwetters in the left leaning press,
This is utter nonsense and a pathetic attempt to bash Sarah Palin. I took her statement to say that Americans were taking a stand. You are borderline deranged or the person you work for really has a hard on for Palin. Either way, these types of nonsense stories have become tiresome and only appeal to the brain dead sycophants of Obama. It's no wonder she won't talk to you people.
American history is no longer in our schools, when I was in school we had to take American history and in high school Americanism vs. Communism. Most in universities today can't even tell you if George Washington live in the White House. and by the way, he never did
Obama got OBL, Bush sat chewing his lip when he was told about 9-11. Sarah was the mayor of a hick town in AK. That's history.
Doug, doug, doug... come on now pleezzz. You know that was simply a slip of the tongue that President Obama had after hours of grueling campaigning. He admitted right away that he make a mistake. Palin makes up her own version of history and so does her "sister" Bachman and most of the right wing. If you want to talk about teaching American History, slavery was downplayed in my history classes and the most I ever learned about Black History was from listening to Stevie Wonder songs! Grow up. She is an idiot and knows nothing. She quit on the people of Alaska mid-term so she could do exactly what she is doing, making millions off of numbskulls like you. Let me guess, you are about 60 or so, white, probably bald and have a hard on for her. Admit it! And, "you people." We are fellow Americans Doug. The reason she doesn't want to talk to us is because we ask challenging questions like "what magazines do you read on a regular basis." LMAO
Yes, a basic knowledge of American history is necessary for a presidential "candidate", especially someone like her who considers themselves a "true American". Oh, by the way, Hardcoffee, I don't know where you went to high school, but in my HS our American history courses consisted of a lot more than "Americanism" (I assume you mean capitalism) vs. Communism. Also, American history is taught in EVERY high school, as in most states (if not all) it's a required course for graduation.
ivbabeagain
he sure does have a lot of "slips of the tongue"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9hZpJp7U3Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5R6kVry4_c&NR=1
Doug, My Mom always say's " Actions speak louder than words" that's why I'll proudly be voting for President Obama again. I'll rub in what 2OldDude wisely said above:
Ponder that & have a nice day : )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt6C1Sl3ZrU&NR=1
Keep holding onto that sh2000.
It's all you've got but won't help him come Nov 2012.
@Hardcoffee American History is still taught in our schools (albeit under a different moniker; U.S. History) and it is in fact a requirement to graduate. Lol All is not as hopeless as you thought!
No I have lots more; enjoy !
Gallup, CNN and Fox News find President Obama's approval rating up
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Trouble brewing for GOP in 2012?
The Truth Is the GOP Has 2012 Trouble
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Numbers are down for the tea party
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BooHoo for you Dougie!
The more pervasive problem is that the right wing makes up many 'facts' and even when proven wrong, like Palin, refuses to recant or admit the mistakes and falsehoods. If you watch her face you will see that even as she spoke she was struggling to speak and out of her depth of knowledge.
When you can never admit you made a mistake you must continue in wrong directions once you start going down a bad road.
boohoo for dougie? Hardly...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110605/ap_on_re_us/libya_russia
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/06/04/eveningnews/main20069017.shtml
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/china-has-divested-97-percent-its-holdin
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2011/05/24/business-energy-us-energy-sector-snap_8482685.html
http://dailycapitalist.com/2011/06/03/grim-unemployment-numbers-for-may-2011/
These are not some pie-in-the-sky polls. These are articles covering events which will have a direct impact on Americans. Not favorable if you're the incompetent heading up the show.
Here, this is for you. It reminds me of the Obots here on the vine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI
Julie ...every area of this country has its history. But, Palin wants to reinvent where this country's history began. Anyone who has ever visited Massachusetts knows where that bell tower Longfellow referred to in his poem, "The Midnight Ride of Paul Revere". Next Palin will be saying there was no Betsy Ross, John Hancock or Benjamin Franklin. That's unnecessary revisionist history with a backroom agenda.
It's one thing to reinvent history for yourself. But it's entirely another to try to reinvent it for people who live in the places where this history took place. I live just a few miles shy of the Battle of Monmouth and the barracks of George Washington in NJ.
Doug Ponders - when you consider all the idiots and morons the GOP has running, President Obama will be re-elected in 2012. He is the best there is and is doing a good job with the mess Bush left. But, of course, no GOPer ever admits that Bush did anything wrong or that anyone is having to clean up his mess. Get a life!
We wouldn't want Sarah Palin overexposing herself.
ewent, Betsy Ross was real but her part in American history is nill. The story of her making the flag is fabricated. There are people who think Benjamin Franklin was president.
What a blithering idiot this femaie is!
Factual and ACTUAL history of Paul Revere's ride is not simply what is in the poem. There were more than just that one "ride". The city of Boston had a warning system of sorts...wherein people fired guns and rang bells to be heard throughout as warnings and alerts. And the intention of the British was to confiscate the rebels gunpowder, making the rebels unable to defend against them. Revere did in a sense warn the British that the rebels were ready for them and would not be defeated.
SO...now who're the blithering idiots? Maybe those people, including myself, until I looked it up, who got their "history" from a poem??
I got my history from the several months of my life spent on studying the American Revolution. Thats what they teach when you grow up miles from where Paul Reveres ride took place.
Palin said that it was Reveres intention to warn the British. It wasn't. He was captured. That is where she was way off. Also, I didnt have to research to find out that he was captured and ended up telling the British under stress. As I stated before, we learned this info in school.
my oh my!!!! if she had mentioned the new green lantern movie she would have been in the ballpark but she said he was "a ringin them bells and letting people know" goodness gracious lady can you embarrass yourself anymore?
Takes your breath away, doesn't it? Scary, really, how grotesquely stupid she is.
UCast1ststone: Check out comment #15.20 above. IF it hasn't been collapsed, that is.
Aggie - Paul Revere did NOT ring any bells or fire any shots. I repeat. He did NOT ring any bells or fire any shots.
"He who warned the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms by ringing those bells, and makin' sure as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be sure and we were going to be free, and we were going to be armed."
This is NOT what happened. He did NOT fire shots or ring bells. He did warn the British, after being captured.
His intention was not to warn the British. She says that was his intention. It wasnt. Period. He did after being captured. He did not purposely get captured so as to divulge that information.
Sarah Palin is the cheapest entertainment available! It's amazing...I don't even have to pay the exorbitant fees at the movie theater to get this kind of laugh though I may start making popcorn before reading the news...
Angie, pass the salt, and I like extra butter. This is getting good!
I'll join ya, no extra toppings for me plz.
I take some popcorn with that.........
Just don't huff the microwave popcorn, lest you get Popcorn Lung!
No microwave popcorn, we want the real thing!
Sure are a lot of libs showing thier fear of Gov. Palin
Name one, Dave. All I see are a lot of reasonable people taking exception with Palin's fast-and-loose approach to fabricating events in American history to validate her political views.
you,for one
Wrong again, little man! I personally would love to see Sarah run for president against Obama in 2012. She would be humiliated at the polls, of course, but it would give the Republican Party the opportunity to shed itself of its Tea Baggers and right-wing religious extremists and reform itself into a real political party again.
No matter what, though, Palin doesn't have a snowball's chance. It will be Obama by a landslide in '12. Read 'em and weep, Dave.
Where's Fiesty and her popcorn machine???
Her ignorance is frightening.
I agree. If by some wild chance she is elected President, we will be going to hell in a hand-basket. How can Tea Party folks think she is electable?
Because they are just as stupid as she is.
(Sorry, you left that one wide open : ) )
Glenn-398317:
I agree. If by some wild chance she is elected President, we will be going to hell in a hand-basket. How can Tea Party folks think she is electable?
Well think about it, that is the kind of mentality, ignorance, and stupidity they support and advocate for, those are the Tea Baggers for you. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!
The Tea Party thinks she can get elected because we (the american people) gave George WB 2 terms. So I don't think it's too far fetched.
Yes, it is frightening to see the dumbed-down generations entering the work force. Very frightening......
...and now, Laaadies and Gentlemen, in the Center Ring for your amusement we present Sssssaaraaaaaaaaaah Palen...The Great Confabulator!!
For a while, I wanted her to run for presidency. But then I realized how many idiots would vote for her, no matter how stupid she is (another Bush, but much bigger scale, she's much stupider than him) I am afraid for a country that would actually vote for her as president. There are enough idiots where it may actually happen...
I don't know what is more frightening, how stupid she is, or how many people actually follow her and believe her gibberish. If she is elected president, I am moving abroad.
I will also move abroad. Its perfect timing because my husband will be PCSing in March after the election. If she is elected will be sure to pick something overseas. He will be stationed there for 3 yrs. I dont think she will last 3 yrs. She couldnt even finish her term as governor. What would make anyone think she can finish her term as president?
Exactly, Becca! She has a very poor track record.
WOW! As Steve Schmitt would say...She doesn't know ANYTHING.
Looks like Palin's gettin' all Mavericky with history now. What a freakin' maroon!
Yeah, I can't wait to hear her spin on WW2.
She might praise Mussolini for making the trains run on time, or that like the former owner of the Cincinnati Reds once said, Hitler, was good in the beginning.
Hs.ig
"Howard Dean, the liberal former Democratic National Committee chairman, believes
that former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin could defeat President Obama in
2012."
Well nooo kidding, a lib finally figured it out. BAH BYE OBOZO
@Dave: Howard Dean, and the rest of the Democratic Party strategists, get down on their knees and pray every night that they can get enough Republicans to believe that. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Dr. Dean picked up the tab for the pizza party Sarah Palin and Donald Trump had just for the photo ops of them together. Unfortunately, with the Donald on the sidelines, the next best scenario for Democrats is the dynamic duo of Sarah and Michelle. So, please keep those contributions coming to both of them ... it wouldn't shock me in the least to see Obama supporters contributing to them as well.
Unfortunately she is too stupid to understand what most Americans already know: she's too stupid to be President.
Maybe she should be given a test before being allowed to run. Republicans keep pushing for voters to take a test before being allowed to vote. It appears that many wannabe Presidential Candidates need to be taking a test.
To use a famous quote from television history, "Oh what a dingbat!".
That is the best one yet! Funny,,,,and yet sadly also true.
I am a Ph.D in American History and my main area of study is in the American Revolution. Sarah Palin is totally off base in her comments and I thank god that she doesn't teach children .
Tom
Dan Hackett Fischer is a Warren Professor of History at Brandeis University.
Did John Galt (sic) misquote the passage from Paul Revere's Ride? Did Professor Fischer make up this passage or was it a true account of the event?
Sarah Palin makes me cringe but from my readings I know that 'historians' have been known to jump to more implausible conclusions than the one she presented.
At least she had a supposedly scholarly basis (Paul Revere's Ride) for her opinion, a basis of which probably the vast majority of this board was unaware,
I'm positive that she didn't realize she had any kind of basis for her remarks...
hoo boy. every time she opens her mouth it just makes me want to shut it for her. please please Sarah, be quiet and stop embarrassing yourself.
suzytx
You forgot to mention that Dan Hackett Fischer is a "Right Wing Shill". I wonder why you forgot to mention that fact?
suztx -- she had a dim memory of hearing the poem, thought it was God speaking to her, and let go a belt of pure unmitigated ignorance, with lipstick.
Does not your second paragraph quoted answer the questions of your first?
While history is not a science (peer reviewed), there is often consensus to at least the basics of events. What palin said doesn't even come close and while the quote above you refer to could (COULD) lend slight credence to a PORTION of what Palin said. It by no means gives her anything reasonable to hold onto. She flubbed it. She flubbed it badly. And she has not the common sense to "clarify" (correct) her statement. Palin isn't fit to manage a 7-11.
Never mind teaching. Let's pray to God that she doesn't get nominated.
Well, I was going to say something witty, but this deserves Comment of the Year, so I'll go silent. Bravo, Bob.
Yes, Tom, it's a good thing she doesn't teach children. Unfortunately, she is influencing the votes of too many weak-minded adults.
Suzy,
You can question every historians facts to defend Palin but we all know she was making up her version, it was not based on any purported facts (except he did ride a horse).
She is a good example of 'it is better to remain silent and let people think you a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.' If it wasn't for her hunger for fame and money I think she would be back in Wassilla annoying the natives there.
Quotes are comments from Tom within the past two months.
My my Tom, you have quite the resume...
You also have a seemingly blatant hatred for any and everything Republican. I by no means support nor like Sarah Palin, but it would do better on your part to check facts. Paul Revere did in fact "warn the British", but it was in essence a threat of sorts. Not a heads up. So you're a bit off base with your comments, sir or Dr...or whatever.
Herestwocents- Paul Revere DID NOT warn the British. You would do well to read history instead of trying to make a total screw up by Sarah Palin anythign close to palitable.
Well Tom, it seems there is agreement among people, even coming from Revere himself! Here are some published folks...Fisher again because you love him (and because you'd rather avoid his words by calling him a right wing shill). I've also included an excerpt from a Revere historian who has won the Pulitzer Prize and Newberry Medal. I'm going to trust them until you can point me to your research into the subject (or hell, point me at your doctoral thesis and prove you really have a PhD and you just aren't pretending!). The Fisher book is pretty comprehensive, and has over 50 pages of bibliography! Oh, but he's just a shill, right? YOU'RE a better authority, right?
From “Paul Revere’s Ride” by the Brandeis University historian David Hackett Fischer, Oxford Univesity Press, 1994, Page 185
Palin's timing might be off and she failed to mention a few key events, but it is documented that Paul Revere was captured and questioned by Major Edward Mitchell who instructed that Revere be taken at gunpoint to Lexington. Revere did warned Mitchell that the people had been alerted and were taking up arms to make a stand. The British were spooked and released Revere in order to make haste. This set of circumstances is discussed here:
From "Paul Revere and the World He Lived In" by Esther Forbes, Pulitzer Prize winning author and Newberry Medal Winner, page 267
The is a slight error here in the retelling, namely that Revere's saddle was cut. I attribute this to some forgetfulness of embellishment by by Richard Pope, the non-commissioned officer. I also want to note that on page 186 of Fishers' book describes another retelling of, 'a "very genteel man" who warned the officers in the van that 600 men were waiting for them in Lexington" and says the mans horse was confiscated by a Lieutenant Adair.
But here is an exerpt written by Revere himself about 23 years after his famous ride:
This letter is the transcript of the original manuscript held in the Manuscript Collection of Massachusetts Historical Society.
www.paul-revere-heritage.com/ride-letter-to-Belknap.html
Considering Palin was providing a candid comment without necessarily having the material right in front of her, she did hit amazingly close to the mark.
Of course, you can ignore the comments of Paul Revere, Esther Forbes a Pulitzer Prize winner and author of a Revere biography and a published university historian. But who's really the moron between all of you and Sarah Palin (hint: its not Palin).
So, on one hand, we have a former governor who is not a historian screwing up a few historical details of Paul Revere and on the other, we have a Harvard educated president who pronounces "corpsmen" as "corpse-men"...essentially, he can't read. And people give Obama a pass and call Palin dumb? Keep walking in lockstep, but the emperor still has no clothes!
Are you trying to suggest that the INTENT of Revere's ride was to ALSO warn the British? Really? He planned his own capture? Really?
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"I am a Ph.D in American History and my main area of study is in the American Revolution. Sarah Palin is totally off base"
i think someone with a 6th grade education would know she was historically inaccurate and off base out in left field
Tom....you and Sarah are both wrong....the Revolutionary war was about the British killing all off the dinosaurs....at least that's what they told me when I got my PH.D from the local community college.
She may not be teaching children directly, but she is teaching too many people that there's nothing wrong with fuzzy thinking and playing loose with the facts. Apparently details aren't important to Palin but that whatever' attitude will undermine America.
We were once the great manufacturing giant; now we find that others have refined products invented here and are doing well, making them for less. This nation needs quality thinking and quality education to pioneer the frontiers of the 21st century. We need people with ideas and the ability to critique their ideas/work. And it's scary to think of the number of people who support Palin's antics and admire her; for them she is a role model.
Unfortunately, she is someone who can't admit a mistake even when it is pointed out to her. Imagine Palin in one-on-one diplomatic talks; her counterpart leaves understanding an agreement has been reached only to discover Palin has restated the terms in Palinisms. This woman simply doesn't know that she does know and obviously is unable to correct mistakes since she does not acknowledge them. That's arrogance; that's mind boggling. And it sends the wrong message/lesson to her supporters, their children and their children's children.
@ Hank:
I'm not suggesting anything. I am simply showing that a warning from Revere to the British actually happened! Professor Fisher and Esther Forbes (a Pulitzer Prize winner) described Revere's post-capture interaction withe the British as a warning. I just quoted them. His intent when he jumped on the horse is irrelevant. According to the authors, Major Mitchell referred to it as a warning! Don't take my word for it, Google it! Google books has actual scans of the books. Read it yourself!
Why is it so hard for you to accept that even as he was being held at gunpoint, Paul Revere can still say, "We've got 500 men waiting for you at Lexington!"
I think the real issue here is you are too invested in your argument to simply say, "Wow, I didn't know that actually happened!" You seem to place a higher priority on bashing Palin than acknowledging scholarly research that supports what she said.
Sarah Palin is not a historian yet people who dislike her want to hold her to the standards of a history professor. Did she flub some details? Sure she did. But the details she screwed up are so obscure that I cannot blame her for messing them up in an impromptu discussion. Like I said earlier, we have a president who cannot pronounce the word "corpsmen" in prepared remarks and i didn't hear one tenth of the nasty name calling that I do when it comes to something Palin says. That's hypocrisy.
People have a problem with her saying the Revere warned the British. There are scholars who say Revere warned the British of what awaited them in Lexington. Whether she was mistakenly correct in what she said or if she actually knew, it doesn't change the fact that sh was correct!
Doesn't change the fact that she is an ignoramus who quit her job as governor to rake in millions.
All she's really good at is parroting right-wing talking points.
And yes, she's really good at that; makes a ton o' money doing it.
And yet, she has held a job longer than Currnt Management with the one glaring exception of his current position. You have to hold a job for at least 6 months to collect unemployment. If it wasn't for the 2008 election, he'd have never been able to collect it.
As for being an ignoramus...As ObiWan Kenobi once said:"Who's the more foolish? The fool, or the fool that follows him?"
Hey PHD, revolution isn't capitalized, but God is. I'm glad you're not teaching my children.
The word revolution in "American Revolution" is capitalized. When it is used alone (the Revolution) to mean the American Revolution, it still gets capitalized. Proper noun. Name of specific person, place or thing...
Your God is capitalized. Other people's gods often aren't, but usually they don't seem to mind.
Three guys went off to "every Middlesex village and farm" to rouse the militia. William Dawes and Samuel Prescott made it all the way, but as everyone here knows, Paul Revere got caught.
It was not their intention to warn the British, but when he was caught it makes sense that he would mention it.....
I am not a historian. I do not have a PhD in anything. I did teach elementary school for close to 40 years and the American Revolution for more than half of those years. A teacher learns a LOT in that amount of time. And I know for sure I hope my students do not emulate Sarah Palin -- I am in agreement with Wisconsin Voter!
Tom....
You mean you have a Ph.D.
...unless you are a Ph.D. student or candidate
nonkjo ... wrong!!!!Between 9 and 10 pm on the night of April 18, 1775, Joseph Warren told Revere and William Dawes that the king's troops were about to embark in boats from Boston bound for Cambridge and the road to Lexington and Concord. Warren's intelligence suggested that the most likely objectives of the regulars' movements later that night would be the capture of Adams and Hancock. They did not worry about the possibility of regulars marching to Concord, since the supplies at Concord were safe, but they did think their leaders in Lexington were unaware of the potential danger that night. Revere and Dawes were sent out to warn them and to alert colonial militias in nearby towns.
462933
Ph.D is merely an abbreviation of "Doctor of Philosophy".
To say: "I am a Doctor of Philosophy" is perfect English.
Tom-394522
Thank Goodness for your comment. Sadly many uneducated and gullible people will believe Sarah Palin. I found her senseless attempt to rewrite our History revolting!
I really, really hope she gets the Repug nomination. I can think of nothing more entertaining that to watch that idiot have to debate President Obama. Then again, it probably wouldn't matter to her much that she would end up looking like an even bigger baffoon. She never let little things like the fact get in her way. I would love to be able to quote the great Tip O'Neill to her, "You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts." Well, she apparently doesn't care. Whenever she needs to back up her opinion she just invents facts and then has then delivers them with a straight face as if they were plainly obvious. What I wonder is if she genuinely believes the idiocy that gushes from her mouth, or does she know she's full of BS and thinks that she is just pulling one over on us.
That still sounds strange. The whole term is a degree, a doctorate. You have a degree; you aren't a degree. Whatever...why does it even matter?
Tom is obviously lying about his achievements people. In previous comments on other articles within the past two months he stated in one instance, that he is a renowned special ed teacher, and in another states he's a urologist.
Good god, people see the amount of ignorant upvotes he has and how the sheep follow en masse. 'Majority rules' I guess.
Pffffft.
At the least then "Tom" is a highly accomplished liar and should run for congress!
@ Joe
Lol'd
Don't kid yourself. If you've earned your Ph.D. in History in the past 50 years, chances are that you really don't know what the true history of America is. People have been re-writting history, re-writting textbooks, to fit their own agenda. What the textbooks say and what the first account sources say are becoming two very different stories. Chances are that you have a Ph.D. in Liberal Propaganda.
really. just really. Consertives are the ones rewriting history. But really. Her accounts and the paperwork at the musuem do not match up
I view her as a cartoon character. The problem is that unless she steps away from the next presidential election, she could become a spoiler for the real republican contender, Mit Romney. In order for Romney to have any chance at all, the clowns like Donald Trump and Sarah Palin need to get out of the picture. But I doubt Palin cares about that. She's so into herself that she could care less if it costs the Republicans the next election.
Totally agree. I'm from MA & although Romney was a one note absentee governor, he did give us a fantastic healthcare system that continues to work well and he was a qualified politician. I pray that her bravado doesn't prevent qualified candidates from even stepping in, let alone winning. I'm a Dem, but there's always a chance that the GOP will win & if they do, I want someone who's qualified to run the country.
LindaMA - little chance of that.
"She's so into herself that she could care less if it costs the Republicans the next election."... Very true Ted. She has never seemed to care that she lost them the last election, so why should anyone expect her to care about the next one(s). Keep up the good work Sarah!
nkjo - Palin's remark is almost as funny as the time Vice President Dan Quayle corrected an elementary school student for mispelling Potato(e). I remember too the scramble by Quayle's spin master's to put doubt into the minds of the American public that he was speaking of the alternative spelling. Your gal is Funny! Keep'm coming!
She knows all about Paul Revere. Once she saw " one of them state quarters". Sara Palin, Ron Paul, Pawlenty, Ryan etc are the best weapons the DEMS have!
I certainly hope she does exactly that. My hope is that she wins the Repug nomination then President Obama becomes the first President since George Washington to carry every state in the Union.
I may have voted for McCain if it wasnt for Palin... Nope, my vote went to Obama. If she runs for presidency I will again vote for the other candidate...
Bravo, Bloody Sarah! You've got ALL the repiglicans dumping in their bloomers!
PALIN in 2012! - Uh-Rah! Go Sarah!
I gonna get a shirt with " I <3 Sarah Palin" on the front and "Damn right I'm a Democrat" on the back. She's adorable!!!! She is not too fast on her feet, but she's funny.
oh! I want one! :)
You could have a profitable business going with that idea, DaddyGrand!
DaddyGrand414- dont do that to the Democrats. They'll hate you forever! And, not a chance in hell they'd claim her!!!!
Wow...if the repubs did that with Barack Obama's picture they would be called racists. What scandal there would be.
DaddyGrand...I'm in on that too.
Yes Sara Palin is as dumb as a brick,with the I.Q. of a rock, and the thought of her with a gun in her hands sends chills up and down my spine and her view of "We need to help our North Korean allies" makes me shake my head in disbelief and I would never vote her for political office in a million years. I will say one good thing about her, SHE SURE CAN FILL OUT A T-SHIRT !!!!!!!!! I am a man and I refuse to apologize for it.
You might as well get one with Obama's picture on the front, and on the back..."Hell, yes, I helped sell my country down the river"
We can only hope she runs, along with Trump, Bachman, and whoever else they can dig up from the idiot camp.
Gun rights? I thought The Revolution was fought over abortion and gay marriage.
I'll have to check with Sarah, but didn't the Allies warn the Germans on 6/4/44 that they would be landing an invasion force in France in 2 days?
No you fool. It was fought over Communism. The "red coats" wanted to take away our guns and tax us so they could redistribute the wealth and make everyone equal. George Washington said "Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death" ,was elected President and started the Revolitionary War. He sent Benjamin Franklin to France but the French surrendered to the Germans because they were a bunch of socialist cowards,and Benjamin Franklin was forced to fly back to America on a kite in the middle of a thunder storm.
Alamira, so those pictures of a aborginal head hunter with Obama's head photo shopped in weren't racist? Really, no I mean REALLY!
The revolution was fought so rich slave owners could keep their slaves, so the colonists could have British army protection without paying anything for it and so the colonists could continue to slaughter the Indians and steal their land. In violation of treaties that England signed with the various Indian tribes and France.
Historian Robert Calhoon wrote in 2000, concerning the proportion of Loyalists to Patriots in the Thirteen Colonies:
Palin is a walking SNL skit. < x D
OH AMEN!!!
Palin is certainly not a genious but I am not sure she is so dumb; I think she is self-centered, self-promoting and loving the attention but when it comes to these stupid remarks, I think that a combination of laziness and arrogance are to blame: she is too lazy to educate herself and arrogant enough to believe the facts don't matter
I think you pretty much said it all. I think you are so right and she laughs all the way to the bank and we talk about her all the time no matter what she says and does. IT WORKS. This seed is just more proof of that.
Sarah Palin likers are a perfect example of why the US political scene is in the toilet. No other country on the planet would vote for morons who can't put together a sentence to lead their nation. Some of you vote for someone because you think they're funny, or like the way they look, or because they agree on ONE issue--the rest of the country be damned. That's pure selfishness, arrogance, and stupidity. You like sarah stupid, put her picture on your wall.You people think you're voting for class president of the 6th grade.
You don't have to like Barack Obama, but he's far and away one of the most intelligent presidents we've ever had, he was knowledgeable about world issues before he became president as well as in tune with the MAJORITY of the people in this country, not the wealthy few. You won't agree, but that doesn't change those realities. Other countries and their leaders respect him for all the right reasons. He has done a good job with the twisted up wreckage of a country that dubya left for him.
It says everything there is to say about the repubs that the party won't distance itself from such a joke as sarah stupid. The repubs just want to be in office, they don't care what qualifications the person may have or lack. That's because whatever office it is, it's the wealthy few and the corporations that actually hold sway. The moron is just their placeholder. That wasn’t always the case, but it certainly has been for awhile now.
Palin is an absolute idiot! What makes things even more scary are their are even bigger idiots out there who ridiculously think highly of her and actually want her to be the next president.
"their" should be spelled: THERE. Just sayin'.
"Sarah Palin is an idiot". That's a very trendy thing to say. How easily some are manipulated by the media into being uninformed mouthpieces.
In point of fact, Sarah Palin was correct in every detail of her comments on the events that occured before the battles of Lexington and Concord. A brief look at Widipedia under "Paul Revere" and "Old North Church" will verify this (I have parsed the pertinent parts on a later posts).
Make that "Wikipedia"!
Thanks for the catch wildhorse, I hadn't had my morning cup of java when I posted that. I'm always getting after my children for correct spelling, so I will admit I goofed.
Let me point out just two things about Sarah Palin to argue my point that the word idiot is appropriate: 1) She couldn't even complete one term as Governor of Alaska. 2) She goes on to do reality t.v.
I can only conceive of 2 reasons (both rather wild) why she would choose to do this.
(1) She wants an easy 'reason' for not running for president, and will blame 'lamestream media' for having 'distorted' this episode and 'blown it out of proportion'.
(2) It keeps her name in the media, and ever since her stint as McCain's VP she has recognized the opportunity to turn politics into income. She perhaps is strategically capitalizing on every criticism of her, so she purposely precipitates criticism trusting that she'll remain idolized by people who don't like such criticism of their heroine.
dustoffdaughter;
Correct me if I'm wrong but did Obama finish off his first term as a US Senator? I'm no fan of Palin but I think the attacks, and this article for that matter are completely unwarranted.
Palin resigned her office as governor because she was spending most of her time responding to official investigations into her conduct as governor of Alaska. In contrast, Obama resigned as Senator to run for president. There is a big difference between the two events.
From the Wikipedia article on The Resignation of Sarah Palin:
"Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resignation_of_Sarah_Palin
First cav , kind of like Huckabee playing bass for Ted Nugent on his show . They were doing "Cat Scratch Fever". Are you familiar with his body of work. Including bedding obviously under age girls. In 1978, Nugent began a relationship with seventeen-year-old Hawaii native Pele Massa. Due to the age difference (he was 30) they could not marry so Nugent joined Massa's parents in signing documents to make himself her legal guardian, an arrangement that Spin magazine ranked in October 2000 as #63 on their list of the "100 Sleaziest Moments in Rock". Didn't Bush have mega doper Ozzy Osborne at a event? More family values BS from the Senator Larry Craig bunch! You remember gay BJ in public boy don't you?
"...slease ball ghetto thug entertaining people of his own class."
That is mighty whitey of you, first cav.
And it is more properly spelled sleaze, not slease. Please try to use spell check when making racist statements, okay?
This is a vine about stupid Palin. Get on topic or get out.
Just an FYI... This article is about Palin. Not Obama...
Are you calling me a liberal democrat? I have never called her a whore or a slut. Just a moron or an idiot. I am NOT a liberal democrat. I think for myself. Just because I don't like Palin, doesn't mean that I like Obama. It also doesn't mean that I am a liberal democrat. It means that I dont like this one particular person, who happens to be republican. I would hate her just as much if she were a democrat. I don't like dumb people, especially in office. Just because I dont like Palin, because I can actually see how dumb she really is, doesnt mean I am not republican. If someone is dumb as dirt, why would you want them running the country? I promise you, there are plenty of republicans who don't like her. They consider her an embarrassment to their party.
Palin is not smarter. Have you even heard some of the @!$%# that she comes up with? She thought that Russia was attacking the US. If she is wrong about something, she should apologize for being wrong. Not spin more crap and make herself sound stupider. At least Obama came up with a good understandable reason why he said 57 states (which is the same thing I thought of when he said that) She twists the truth to make her right, when she just makes herself even more wrong. When McCain announced his run for presidency, I immediately thought, I'm voting for him! Then he announced his VP. I lost all respect for him after that. I did not vote for McCain simply because I did not want Palin in office. I don't vote for people just because they are republican or democrat. I vote for who I think would be better in office. I do not think Palin is good for anything (except a good laugh) and so did not vote for them. I think for myself and decided that I did not want Palin to have any power of the country. If McCain had chose anyone else, I probably would have voted for him.
Mrs. Palin,
I know that about 20% of the people in this country absolutely love you and think you would be a great president. As impressive as that number is, there are many more that, to put it plainly, don't think you are smart enough to be President. Fortunately, there is a very easy way to find out who is right and who is wrong. Take an IQ test. You don't have to make the results public, but I would hope that if your IQ turns out to be much lower than what you thought it should be, you would please do us all a favor and exit the political arena. If on the other hand, your IQ test shows that you are as smart as you think you are, then please continue doing what you are doing. Nobody but you needs to know the results.
Sincerely,
A Republican for several decades until the 2008 Presidential election.
Although I like your post & you nailed it when you wrote "as smart as you THINK you are", I have point out that the bad part about an IQ test. I know a few IQ geniuses out there that have absolutely no common sense and have a hard time functioning outside of books and their field of study. Gullible doesn't even begin to describe them when trying to function within society. Palin only thinks she's smart & as for common sense.....none! Doing a reality show is proof she has neither.
EffortPA...
Sarah Palin IS a "smart" woman...as evidenced by her new found fame and fortune. Sarah Palin is also an extremely IGNORANT person...as evidenced by her apparent narrow mindedness and superficiality.
I have to agree that IQ is not always a good indicator.
It is for a leader, which she is far from.
I think we would all be surprised by how well Palin would do on an IQ test. I mean, to have gone so far, knowing so little, she must have something going for her.
As the Redneck Comedy Tour says, "You can't fix stupid." But at the same time, you can't fix ignorant if the ignoramus is proud of her lack of knowledge.
Palin is worse than stupid. Stupid people can't help it. Palin choses to appear stupid because her agenda has nothing to do with knowledge. Palin will always promote her agenda of the rich getting richer at the expense of the poor. That human decency and American history do not support her, is all the more reason to be ignorant of the facts, they would just get in the way.
Trying to take healthcare away from disadvantaged Americans and the elderly, blaming Unions for wanting their pensions that her buddies on Wall Street stole from them, and waging war on immigrants, legal or not, is not stupid. It is selfish and evil.
Don't make the mistake of selling Palin short. She is so much worse than stupid.