So, you already know what the content of the emails include? You must be an insider. Oh, and you speak for the majority??? Pretty presumptuous. What would that teaching instrument be? What is the education level of Lady GaGa? Maybe we ought to stop putting such trash like that on a pedestal as well and teach them not to act like her. I'd say Lady GaGa's followers are the worst America has to offer -- not Sarah Palin's.
will this change ant minds .. of course not .. her supporters will love her ...her detractors will dislike her ... nothing will change as far as her support goes ... What needs to be investigated is ... why the Alaska Governors office took over 2 years to make this information public ... what was the Alaska government trying to hide from the public
The emails isn't really what these blood lusting slimebags want. Come on gang, you sickos love the Weiner, you want a peek into Sarah Palins panty drawer admit it. Sure you do. Admit it.
Wow, cathee, calling Palin and her "fans"ignorant......how original, it's never been done before. Maybe it'll catch on with the rest of the superior minds on the left, and maybe...just maybe...with the media. But guess what; we of the"worst America has to offer" get a huge laugh at how berserk you and the rest of the libs get at the mere mention of her name.
Oh by the way, why don't you regale the rest of us with your "real" education credentials; I'll bet they're really impressive.....or maybe not - you have two capitalization errors in your "educated" comment.
Wow, cathee, calling Palin and her "fans"ignorant......how original, it's never been done before. Maybe it'll catch on with the rest of the superior minds on the left, and maybe...just maybe...with the media. But guess what; we of the"worst America has to offer" get a huge laugh at how berserk you and the rest of the libs get at the mere mention of her name.
See we dont go beserk over her. We just love the comedic stupidity that she espouses every time she opens her mouth. Cites her geographical proximity to Russia as foreign policy experience, has no idea Africa is a continent not a country, is completely historically ignorant... and proud of it.
Those are things you'd expect to catch in an episode of South Park - not in a public figure who was a VP candidate and now will likely run for president.
Not going crazy over her - not obsessed with her - don't fear her - just utterly and completely entertained by her stupidity and the people who support her.
This is internet chat, in case you haven't noticed. People often write in a casual manner, assuming readers don't expect the Queen's English. Sorry if I offended you.
Ben-636050 - Sarah Palin hasnt had a real original idea of her own. Everything comes from someone else and she attaches herself to it like a band wagon. She became a tea-bagger after she found out how popular it was with the Republicans. Same with the berthers after Donald Trump made a big deal about it, she jumped on as well. Sarah has to be about the worst American Republican in politics today. Not sure where you came up with Lady GaGa, but hey, to each his own. As far as the emails, I am sure she had anything incriminating removed, thats why it took so long for msnbc to get ahold of them.
What we have here is a literal feeding frenzy of salavating people just hoping that they find something, any miniscule thing to twist into scandal, and I'm sure they will do just that, and then coin some new slur that all will use incessantly, parrotting one another, yet think it's oh, so clever and original.
Mike: Tina Fey said the Russia thing. She (or the writers) took something Sarah said while leading a tour and instructing some visitors on the geographic location of AK and then twisted it to make a joke. That's what commedians do, ya know? Do you get all your information from comedy sketches?
I wonder why none of you, in your quest to know all things, haven't insisted on seeing Obama's college records, and so many other records of his past endeavors and connections that are under lock and key.
I have no doubt that these people hired by the media to dissect her every word will read all sorts of dastardly things into her e-mails without any idea of the purpose of the message, just takeing it one word at a time and "creating" her intention. The posts on here that attack Palin and her defenders on their mental capacity and educational levels is nothing less than childish.
I hope you enjoy your dumpster diving and witch hunt...pathetic. Palin isn't afraid to have this released. Why is Obama so secretive and afraid to open his records? I can only assume since none of his followers question this, it's because they just prefer hold onto the facade.
@Barry -- The Lady GaGa analogy was just to show that the followers of her are the worst Americans rather than those who follow Palin. There area number of other examples as well. But for comparison sake, I chose trash who has become an icon and a bad example for our children to follow.
What you say may be true -- but so what? As to American Democrats in politics that has to be about the worst let's list Weiner, Edwards, Rangel, Grayson, etc. and then we can start a whole list from the other side. It's an irrelevant argument. Both parties have their bane.
Mike: Tina Fey said the Russia thing. She (or the writers) took something Sarah said while leading a tour and instructing some visitors on the geographic location of AK and then twisted it to make a joke. That's what commedians do, ya know? Do you get all your information from comedy sketches?
Really?
Couric: You've cited Alaska's proximity to Russia as part of your foreign policy experience. What did you mean by that?
Sarah Palin: That Alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, Russia, and, on our other side, the land-boundary that we have with Canada. It's funny that a comment like that was kinda made to … I don't know, you know … reporters.
Couric: Mocked?
Palin: Yeah, mocked, I guess that's the word, yeah.
Couric: Well, explain to me why that enhances your foreign-policy credentials.
Palin: Well, it certainly does, because our, our next-door neighbors are foreign countries, there in the state that I am the executive of. And there…
Great rebuttal Mike. It's amazing how some people have tunnel vision when it comes to Palin. They forget that her idiotic rants don't come from comedy sketches but straight from the source.
@Barry -- The Lady GaGa analogy was just to show that the followers of her are the worst Americans rather than those who follow Palin. There area number of other examples as well. But for comparison sake, I chose trash who has become an icon and a bad example for our children to follow.
I dare say your last sentence also applies to Palin. And if you disagree - what is it about her that provides a positive role model? Is it because she's a quitter? A failed VP candidate? A geographical and historical neophyte? how about a hypocrite? Or maybe her constant firearm references?
Great rebuttal Mike. It's amazing how some people have tunnel vision when it comes to Palin. They forget that her idiotic rants don't come from comedy sketches but straight from the source.
Although it could be argued that it did come from the comedy sketch that is Sarah Palin. LOL!
Although Palin ran for governor on a platform of openness and transparency in government, it became clear when she was running for vice-president that she and her aides had moved most of their email traffic on public matters to private Yahoo accounts, presumably out of reach of the state's public records law.
Anyone remember Dick Chaney and his gmail account? If you aren't doing anything wrong, Sara, what do you have to hide?
Although it could be argued that it did come from the comedy sketch that is Sarah Palin. LOL!
True LOL. Her idiocy is a fountain of laughs for me and any intelligent person. It's the mindless sheep that ooooh and aaaaaah in awe at everything she says and does.
@Mike -- Your questions have no relevance. People quit jobs all the time to move on to other endeavors. Does that make them bad role models? Many a good person -- like Geraldine Ferraro -- have been "failed" VP candidates. Does that make then a bad role model? I have known some of the best educated people to ask me when I tell them I am from West Virginia to ask me if I am close to the beach? Does that make them a bad role model? I know someone who said there were 57(58?) states during the campaign. Does that make him a bad role model? In Alaska, guns is a way of life so why wouldn't one talk about their way of life.
No, Palin is not trash. She may not be the sharpest tack in the box but neither is Weiner or Vitter or Rangel or Lee or Foley or B.Clinton for the mistakes they made.
If you don't like her, why do you waste your time reading her stories and making immature comments? This forum is not hardly -- or even remotely close -- to the windows of the world.
Well Mike, apparently you are not privvy to the LINE Tina Fey said, that has been assigned to Sarah Palin and SO oft quoted/repeated as coming straight from her..."I can see Russia from my house." Guess I should have spelled that out for you. My point being: Palin never said that! Get it? The tunnel visioned people insist on using it over and over and over.
Have you ever been a Governor? Mayor? Candidate for ANYTHING?
Data Link: Palin isn't hiding anything! Do you not understand that her e-mails, over 24,000 of them are being made public? Have you asked Obama that question?
No, Palin is not trash. She may not be the sharpest tack in the box but neither is Weiner or Vitter or Rangel or Lee or Foley or B.Clinton for the mistakes they made.
You are confusing overall stupidity with political corruption or sexual misconduct - of which both sides are guilty. Show me a democratic candidate that has presented the overall stupidity that Palin has. One that cites her geographical location to Russia as her foreign policy experience - one that thinks Africa is a country - one that calls then pres candidate Obama a socialist while simultaneously collecting oil and gas money and redistributing it to the entire state of Alaska - or one who is blantantly ignorant of history.
If you don't like her, why do you waste your time reading her stories and making immature comments?
Because its funny? Why do you waste your time defending her? Because its not?
Well Mike, apparently you are not privvy to the LINE Tina Fey said, that has been assigned to Sarah Palin and SO oft quoted/repeated as coming straight from her..."I can see Russia from my house." Guess I should have spelled that out for you. My point being: Palin never said that! Get it? The tunnel visioned people insist on using it over and over and over.
Christ... can you read? She did cite her proximity to Russia as being foreign policy experience in the Couric interview - go look up the transcripts I posted. I never said she said she could see Russia from her house - that was indeed Fey.
I said exactly "Cites her geographical proximity to Russia as foreign policy experience". Which is exactly what she did. She is that ridiculous.
@Mike -- Your questions have no relevance. People quit jobs all the time to move on to other endeavors. Does that make them bad role models.
yes it does and you cannot compare an average job, or even one of a CEO to a Governor. Also, the reason for quiting is very important. Palin quit because she could not deal with all the legal issues she was going through (financially and emotionally).
So when a jobs gets tough, you quit? Yes, that makes you a loser especially if you want to be responsible for 300,000 million lives - not to mention the rest of the world.
So, I am curious as to why there is no request for emails that Barack Obama sent? I am curious as to why there is no request to release emails from Joe Biden or Nancy Pelosi or Hillary Clinton or Debbie Wasserman Schultz or Michelle Obama or Harry Reid?
What is the obsession with this woman? The amount of people here calling her an idiot, seems pretty idiotic to me. Is it because she doesn't talk like a harvard professor? Is it because you have all been told by the media how dumb she is? I don't understand the left's fascination with this woman and their constant attacks on her.
I don't think she is ready to be president yet and she probably knows that, but you have to appreciate her motivation and drive. I know the other argument is that she is only interested in herself and making money, but hey, that is America! Everyone wants to live a better life and make money and she has found a way to do that. She is not stealing money. She is not ripping off the taxpayer (You will have to talk to your elected officials to find that).
The fact that she doesn't get the women to stand up for her is ridiculous though. This is a woman who is self-made and has put herself on top. A small-town girl with big aspirations and has succeeded at almost every level. This should warrant praise not ridicule.
So, I am curious as to why there is no request for emails that Barack Obama sent?
Again, DKdog, those emial were requested partly BECAUSE Palin cc'ed her husband when e-mailing the government business. Since he was never elected as a public offical, he had as much right to get them as you and I do.
bayllie "DKWog So, I am curious as to why there is no request for emails that Barack Obama sent? ...Again, DKdog, those emial were requested partly BECAUSE Palin cc'ed her husband when e-mailing the government business. Since he was never elected as a public offical, he had as much right to get them as you and I do."
So what's wrong with making a similar request for the emails of Obama, Reid, etc. I'm sure that many of them also cc'd unelected people. And most of the released documents probably did not cc Palin's husband.
I too wonder why a similar request was not made by the media for the emails of Democrats.
While I don't like Lady Gaga's music, it is hard to argue that what she is doing isn't original and artistic. Also, her followers tend to be the gay community. Are you saying the gay community are the worst people in America?
No one has a right to see college transcripts without good reason and permission from the student. What is your point? George Bush's transcripts were leaked which was probably illegal.
I don't need to see his transcripts in order to find the one A- or B+ that prevented him from getting Summa Cum Laude. Magna Cum Laude says everything you need to know about his performace at Harvard. It basically shows he recieved a nearly perfect gpa in one of the most prestigious law programs in the world.
The degree of uncivil, knee-jerk vitriol Ms. Palin generates directly corresponds to her detractors' chicken-little fear of her. I'm not a Palin fan either, but the left's zeal to utterly destroy her only proves an immense if perverse regard.
We should all use this as teaching instrument for, our children and grandchildren about, the importance of an Education a real one, not a Fake one.
The fake now occupying the White House allegedly has a "real" education about which you speak and his inexperience, incompetence and lack of common sense have turned a bad set of economic and foreign conditions that existed when he took office into quite dire times for our country and its citizens. A whole lot of good that "real" education has been for him and Americans.
Folks asking about why other representatives haven't been asked for their email records: I'm assuming the requests for Palin's records came about as a result of the investigation she was under a few years back:
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
I just don't get the Sarah Palin fixation. Most of those commenting profess to basically hating her, yet you all flock to anything with her name on it. So many people's time and money being spent to scrape up whatever dirt can be found. I totally understand not liking her, but this "out to destroy" thing is very disturbing. Reminds me of sharks circling for the kill.
This is getting scary. I don't know why any sane person would want to run for public office.
I love all the losers that come out and defend Sarah, they make me laugh.
Hey, remember last week when Sarah messed up US History because of the "gotcha" questions the "lamestream media" threw at her? That's right, it is not Sarah's fault . . . the liberal media asked her a "gotcha" question, because they were trying to "get her" saying something stupid.
Damn that liberal media.
By the way, do you know what that "gotcha" question was? Do you know what confusing question they asked Sarah, in an attempt to "get" her?
"Sarah, what have you learned and what will you take away from this visit?"
That's right, folks. The "gotcha" question that Sarah complained about was: "What have you learned?" Let me reiterate this . . . Sarah Palin considers the questions "What have you learned?" to be a "gotcha" question from the evil left-wing media.
THIS is the person you nut-jobs support? Someone who considers "What have you learned?" to be a "gotcha" question from the left-wing media? Really? REALLY?
I guess that can be a tough question for a group of people that never passed the 2nd grade. No, actually . . . even a 2nd grader would be able to answer that question.
Gee - I can see why this was collapsed. What a waste!
There is a saying be careful what you wish for - you just might get it. From what I'm hearing - I'm thinking the release is going to rocket this lady to the Presidency instead of destroying her. What are these extremist negative people going to do?
There is one really, really wrong thing about this release . . . . email addresses were not redacted. This may be a violation of private citizens privacy.
I am not a follower or big fan of Palin, but why is it that the left is so threatened by her that they have the liberal press doing nothing but hiring in people to find that one piece of juicy information. Where is this scrutiny towards our very own President and his administration. They screw up and ABC, CBS, NBC, and just about every news organization sweeps it under the rug. What happened to unbiased and fair reporting? And is it the news organization's place to put forward their agenda or to let us get facts and decide ourselves. In the end all of them (and yes for you that are going to yell), this includes Fox news, they have all become nothing but talking heads looking for dirty laundry.
It's sad, kind of reminds me of Nero playing his harp while Rome burned. This country is falling to its knees because of the burden of debt and the public demand for entitlements and all they can do is look at Palin and see what they can dig up on her. Does anyone anymore see something wrong with this picture?
You know these emails have been requested for almost a year and were not being provided. I guarantee that these have all been sifted through and are anything but candid.
What "gotcha" question are you talking about? The one that the Paul Revere society said "well she got lucky on that one". How about when you libs jumped on her for saying gonna party like its 1773 and a tea party? Well guess what the tea party was in 1773. Maybe libs need to read up on history alittle bit.Doesnt matter in 250lbs of emails she will show less than Wiener did in one pic msg. How long did it take Obama to provide a birth certificate?
What is the left so afraid of? Have they made up their minds already? Why will you not read her emails? Its been made such a big deal and now, HERE THEY ARE! Read them, you bitched about getting them. Its even been said that EVERYONE should read them. If the left doesnt want to read them then all it goes to show is that the left wants to close its eyes and will not open their minds. You are incapable of seeing what is out there, you have blinders on.
I am not a fan of her one way or the other but if shes releasing her emails, why shouldnt they be read?
Randi, are you afraid to read them? How can you GUARANTEE they have been sifted through? Did you do the sifting? Dont think ya did. Stop making grandiose statements when you have no connection to them whatsoever. If you had 28,000 pieces of email I am sure that it would take you more than a year to put them all together too.
Lady Gaga does circles around Palin in the intellect dept. Not to mention she has a great voice, writes her own songs and plays the piano very well. But, the main thing is she doesn't go out of her way to alienate people but rather brings them together. I am not gay but I like her views, artistic skills and overall wackiness. Palin barely made it through community college. Gaga graduated from NYU. If you read Palin's emails you can see she is right up there with my 13 year old daughter. Palin not Trump is really god's gift to comedy.
I'm always amazed by the sheer unbridled hypocrisy of those on the left who take great joy in mocking the rantings of Sarah Palin, but seem all too oblivious to the utterances of Joe Biden, and he IS our current VP. Sarah Palin enjoyed +80% approval in her 1st term as governor of Alaska. Perhaps she is a better leader than orator, in direct opposition to Obama, who is a far, far better orator than leader. Sarah is playing the left for the fools they are, and they don't even know it. She has no intention of running, but the left will be the last to figure that out, all the while expending time and energy on a decoy, SUCKERS!
Tbenton...no one is afraid of Palin. She's front page comedy and someone who you would probably see on Jerry Springer. That's why the press is all over it. People want to know more about "The Dummy Demographic" because it is hard to believe that people can be that ignorant in this day and age.
hardtostabilize....remember that's Alaska not the majority of US. Sarah is playing herself and everytime she opens her mouth she loses more credibilty and gains more comedy. Hint..... she's the sucker.
Let me determine what is good reading and what is not. Have you read the e-mails yet, or are you just another welfare queen protecting your "rights"? When are the Clintons, The Obamas, or any democrats going to do the same? Would really love to know the truth about whitewater.
I just wanted to point out that you wanting to emphasize education contradicts your atrocious writing skills. Your initial comment was almost unreadable. Please go back to school.
Such hostility here!!! I am not a big Palin fan but seriously some of you people need to chill out. The extremism is burning intense with some of the liberals I see in this thread. How could someone be so hateful towards another human being? Oh wait, someone will try to make a "joke" about Palin not being human in some ridiculous way.
Grow up ladies and 'gents. Time to start acting like adults and not mindless political zombies for the right/left. Time to think for yourselves instead of listening to only the media. I mean really.
Data Link: Palin isn't hiding anything! Do you not understand that her e-mails, over 24,000 of them are being made public? Have you asked Obama that question?
That's funny, I almost laughed when I read this. It's because she is not hiding anything why half of the content is deleted as privileged or private?
they have the liberal press doing nothing but hiring in people to find that one piece of juicy information.
You are absolutely right that the right-wing would NEVER EVER . . . EVER . . . waste money by hiring people to look for a juicy piece of information. They would NEVER hire people to investigate a retarded conspiracy theory about a birth certificate.
Bashing Palin, at the behest of the liberal media. And all the little followers chime in like the good little pavlovian puppies they are. Bark, little puppies, ignore the really big dogs that are in the room looking to eat you alive. Igonore the debt, the economy, the falling Stock Market, the lousy jobs market, that is what the big dogs want. While you're barking at Palin, guess what else is being taken away from you.
You know these emails have been requested for almost a year and were not being provided. I guarantee that these have all been sifted through and are anything but candid.
Mhmmmm....and Obama's long form birth certificate took 2 and a half years to produce? His college transcripts...still missing.....emails from Obama while he was a senator?? Not available.
Oh, but he's the most transparent president ever!
I'm not a big Palin fan, but she's more transparent than the clown in the white house that ran on that promise.
Obama has destoyed this countys economy,and now the dow back below 12,000 and the limited mental capacity of the demcrats thinks that looking at private e-mails is the thing to do. No wonder wiener is there hero.
Sarah is going to make a great president, way over qualified compared to obama.
I don't think anyone wants anything potentially personal released. I've already heard some examples of personal notes like someone having problems and Palin putting in the reply that she would pray for them.
The big issue is the volumes to be reviewed by lawyers to insure non-government sensitive stuff wasn't relieased without redaction. I've heard a complete released set is something like $5 Million? That's nuts - just to try to find something big to discredit her.
I say have fun looking for that needle in the haystack.
cathee the great said, "It is safe to say that the "abysmal ignorant" of Sarah's fans need to stay afloat together. Fortunately, out of 350 million Americans, the majority of us do not want to swim in their pool."
Yeah, maybe, but what is strange is those people you label as "abysmal ignorant" know the actual population of the country (you're over 40 million off, a signficant number).
But the REALLY scarey part of that fact is, even if those ignorant people DON'T know the population, they DO know how to use Google & do extremely simple research before putting something in print. You've just shown you have no idea how to do that.
People who CAN'T grasp the use of modern technology are NOT the type people a 21st-centruy country needs within it's borders. So I'll stick with Palins people. I know they can read ...... and count.
How does it feel to believe that half the country are immoral idiots out to destroy this country? I'm a libertarian and think it is absolutely moronic for either side to make a blanket claim that the other party is stupid and backward. As a chemist, I work with many democrats and they are great people. Get over yourself. Obama had about as much to do with the state of the economy as you did. The current state of things was a long time coming and will not change much in the next few administrations regardless of who is in office...
It would seem, judging by the comments on this thread, that liberals, given the recent disasterous record of liberal policies, turning a recession into a depression, have nothing left but to fall back on good ol' tried-n-true Palin-bashing. Besides, no one's buying the blame-it-all-on-Bush line anymore...
If Palin continues to alienate half the country, she will not win by a landslide. You didn't see McCain or Obama sit there and call half the voting public immoral c@cksuckers did you? This is essentially what Mrs. palin does nearly every time she speaks. This is no way to run for an office that represents the entire country.
It was stupid to blame Bush just like it is stupid to blame it all on Obama. The economic problems have nothing to do with who is in office but rather the result of 30 years of outsourcing our middle class jobs. If you don't have people making decent money, consuming and supporting a tax base, you get our current economic situation. Trickle down only works when money isn't shipped over to Chinese workers. Now we have a situation where our factories and consumers are pumping money overseas instead of keeping the profits and jobs at home. It will take extreme measures to fix this problem. Outsourced labor must become less profitable which would take either a middle class boom in China or extreme regulation on outsourcing. Either way, it will be a very hard time for all Americans.
OMG Mike..Do YOU not COMPREHEND that I was referring to that ONE variation of "I can see Russia from my house...window...porch"? I was NOT talking about her Couric interview. I was talking about the SENTENCE that is constantly used by the lefties, which is something she NEVER said. Fey said it. NOW do you get it? As far as what she said to Couric. Take a step back and ThINK. She was being FACITIOUS! If Couric and the rest of you weren't trying to nail her, Couric, you and others might have caught the facitious reply. But always poised to pounce you miss the details.
What foreign relations experience did Obama have anyway? For that matter what experience did he have governing? Running a business?
Eric: "The economic problems have nothing to do with who is in office but rather the result of 30 years of outsourcing our middle class jobs."
And creating a nanny state a la Greece is going to fix that? The outsourcing of middle class jobs started more than 30 years ago, when the rest of the world caught up (and surpassed) U.S. productivity as they recovered from their post-WW2 ruins. The U.S. had it good in the '50s and '60s because we had virtually no international competition. However, that temporary post-war benefit simply wasn't life in the real world. It was a paradigm we're likely to never see again. We can wax nostalgic about it all we want, and unfortunately an entire generation grew up thinking that way of life was normal. That generation was well taken care of, and is now entering retirement still expecting to be taken care of, paid for with the hard-earned tax dollars of Gen X and Gen Y'ers like me. That's the unsustainable dynamic that is slowly but surely bringing this once great country to its knees!
What "gotcha" question are you talking about? The one that the Paul Revere society said "well she got lucky on that one". How about when you libs jumped on her for saying gonna party like its 1773 and a tea party? Well guess what the tea party was in 1773. Maybe libs need to read up on history alittle bit.Doesnt matter in 250lbs of emails she will show less than Wiener did in one pic msg. How long did it take Obama to provide a birth certificate?
Paul Revere Society stated she was wrong because she was wrong, they didn't say "got us today!" as if they had an in for palin. Not all intelligent people have it out for her, they simply ask her for her views and expect something resembling correct statements. Seeing as she is setting out to lead us all and make important decisions as a representative I think its not too much to ask...
Composer - having witnessed a job my company got sued over, That took hundreds of hours for the stuff to be printed and gone over - with only 10 - 15 people at the office involved.
A governors office - even in a small state is a much larger task.
"If your idea of an engrossing tour through American history is reading 24,199 pages of emails from Sarah Palin's first two years as governor of Alaska..."
This sums-up the mentality of the progressive and liberal constituents of this Nation (notice I didn't say democrat or republican/independent). Wanting to pour-over the e-mails of Palin: how ridiculous!
I bet y'all were enthralled with the photo's of Weiner too!
So being the governor of a state surrounded by foreign countries that you are required to negotiate with on a regular basis is not a plus in the foreign diplomacy column? I guess Obama's experience dealing with Chicago politicians just blew that away.
I really would like to see all of Obama's correspondence published in the same manner by MSNBC just to show that they are a responsible news agency and not a propaganda machine. Think it's going to happen?
I'm beginning to think all of these attacks on Palin are sexist bigotry at it's finest.
I think the Progressive Dems have made a huge strategic error,now that the work of the "REAL" Sarah Palin, an intelligent, engaged, competent, Chief Executive Officer,(who will still have more executive experience than Obama when this sorry four year experiment in radical socialism is over),can be seen, and We can actually compare her's to Our present, "WTF", Administration,and do it on a daily basis, day, after day, after day, as her record is there for all to see,and can be gone over with a fine toothed comb, the lefts massive ridicule and propaganda campaign that has been directed against her will show itself to be just that,a silly, baseless, left wing , progressive, propaganda campaign,and when people see this, they will start to ask other questions, such as, Who was behind this attempted character assassination against Sarah Palin and why? Then , our noble heroes in the media, in order to save their own skins and maintain some semblance of credibility,(and maybe with the hopes of winning a Pulitzer Prize in the process), will have to throw somebody under the bus, and a good candidate,(especially if it looks like they are going to lose big time anyway), will be an investigation of this administration, because there are so many unknowns ,Their "Faceman" ,and how he got selected and guided through the ranks of the Chicago political machine,so rapidly,with zero executive experience,how did that happen? and with such a noticeable lack of media curiosity and oversight? and who were the powers behind it? and then this administration's ties to communists, socialists,home grown radicals, and old nazi sympathizers could be scrutinized, along with other things like, where did all that unaccounted for foreign money that flooded into Obama's campaign in the last election actually come from? ,or How did one man have so many ties to so many radicals and extremist that he then proceeded to put into government positions ,(or made up positions for them),as unaccountable czars or ,newly created Agency Heads? ,and just what exactly did the Progressives do with that trillion dollars they voted for themselves that dark and rainy night when they first seized power?, That is a lot of money!,Think about it! Where did it go?( and the obvious next question would then again be , where was the press when all this happened?, which will, of course never be asked or answered by the main stream, "journalist",, because that would lead right back to the propagandists, character assassins,and well financed lap dogs in their ranks, and then to those who were behind them, a place where many in the mainstream media will desperately try to keep anyone from going), so let's keep reading, comparing facts to fiction,disassembling the lies and propaganda,and then informing each other what we find, so that We can then ask the questions that WE must ask,in order to find the answers WE MUST KNOW.Thanks Dems.
Funny thing as well. I was watching A MESS NBC this AM, to see them try to spin this...one of the lamer headlines is that a pre vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin supported Obama.
Then they give the excerpt from an email that says
"He gave a great speech this morning, mentioned Alaska"
"we need to take advantage of this an say he's right on"
I guess they were trying to portray she supported Obama before she was a VEEP candidate.
What they neglected to show was the rest of the email, came in between the 2 comments and said He STOLE her energy rebate idea and he stole Alaska gasoline talking points
And later in the same email she says GLAD HE FLIP FLOPPED ON OCS
So the attacks on this woman continue, they look to have her emails released, the fair and balanced Wash Toast and the NY SLimes, enlist kool aid drinking sheeple to try and get her, and when they CANT FIND ANYTHING except that she was an involved governor who took on both repubs and dems in the interest of the middle class, out of 24,000 pages A MESS NBC has the audacity to not even show the entire contect of an email, but rather pull out 2 lines to make it appear as if Plain suypported Obama.
Because they know all the sheeple will just parrott that, much like they do the Fox Lies line.....MSNBC LIED. And by the way, I saw the entire context of the email on Fox.
You can see it here.....excerpted from Mother Jones (the liberal ragsite), unless the doofus David Corn takes it doen before people see what she really said.
Wonder how much money was spent by the morons flying droves of people to Alaska, how much time was wasted by Alaskan government officials pulling these together, how much paper was wasted (I thought the left was environmentally friendly---but they suspend that for trying to get Palin.....IDIOTS), how much time Obamabots wasted poring through emails to find she didnt want liquor in the govs mansion or that there was some CRITICAL news about a tanning bed.....can this get any more moronic?
When do we get to see Obamas emails form when he was a senator and in the Illinois senate.
It is getting hard to laugh at the left on the palin derangement syndrome they have, because they are so sad.
Steve. It isnt over. If they cant find anything of note....they will turn "I will not be going home for lunch" into something criminal and suspicious....Dont forget, this is the media...
Ah Sarah. She wanders the country attending fundraisers/book signings, giving speeches, etc. and yes, she's probably a worry for the GOP but she drives the left wingers positively crazy.
My assessment is that she's nowhere as dumb as the left makes her out to be and actually, she's demonstrated a shrewdness and business acumen beyond the ability and understanding of many. Put simply, she's making a lot of money.
No, she won't run for president. I think she's currently having far too much fun agitating the radical left and watching their heads explode every time they hear mentioned in the news.
So now, these left wingers will expend enormous amounts of time pouring over thousands of emails. To what end? Don't they realize they're being played for fools?
I really can't understand why so many are trying to defend Mrs. Palin on these strings. Remember, you're currently on MS-DNC, an unpaid arm on the Democratic National Committee. There is no logic you can use, no examples you can cite, no stories you can tell that will change a single mind that reads or comments on these strings, and that is from either side.
What you must realize is that the left can be as condescending, bigoted, anti-female as it wants and can get away with it. The media will never call them on it. Yet, let one member of the right put a toe over the line, and it all breaks loose. They can say things about Mrs. Palin, her husband and her children with the impunity that they will never, not ever, be called to task for it. I say embrace it. Let them rant. It only shows them to be the racists and fools that they are. Make off putting comments that will set them into a tizzy. It's fun. Heck, make stuff up about them, as they do to others, and watch them go crazy. It's liberating and will relieve stress. Be a carrier and give them the heart attacks.
So, I am curious as to why there is no request for emails that Barack Obama sent? I am curious as to why there is no request to release emails from Joe Biden or Nancy Pelosi or Hillary Clinton or Debbie Wasserman Schultz or Michelle Obama or Harry Reid?
Try to keep up. These emails were requested by Mother Jones Magazine at the time Palin was chosen to be McCain's VP running mate. They wanted to write an article about her and at the time very little was known. It has taken this long for Alaska to comply with the request.
I think it does Sarah a favor. Most of them are everyday business of running a governor's office. However, many were blacked out or not included at the request of Alaska attorneys for whatever reason. Who knows what was in them. Could have been more mundane business but we'll never know.
I think this sets an excellent precedent. Let's look at all of Mr. Bush's emails, and while we're at it, let's see Mr. Obama's too. Hell, let's make a list; Pelosi, Reid, Gingrich, and let's throw in the Federal Reserve's email too. Let's see what they all have been up to.
Mike-416 Yes, great rebuttal. Except here is the ENTIRE cconversation. It was Charlie Gibson who initially brought up the porximity of Russia, it was Palin who gave an astute answer and it was Fey who said I can see Russis from my porch and it was the left who ran with that.
Want to hear a really stupid gaffe, that was actually said, that actually impacts us???
I will cut the deficit by half during my first term.
or this one...if we approve the stimulus, unemployment wont go above 8%.
Nor those were REALLY said, and those turned out to be really ILL INFORMED.
But keep pretending Palin said anything like I can see Russia from my porch, as her in depth answer to a national security question.
GIBSON: Let me ask you about some specific national security situations.
PALIN: Sure.
GIBSON: Let’s start, because we are near Russia, let’s start with Russia and Georgia.
The administration has said we’ve got to maintain the territorial integrity of Georgia. Do you believe the United States should try to restore Georgian sovereignty over South Ossetia and Abkhazia?
PALIN: First off, we’re going to continue good relations with Saakashvili there. I was able to speak with him the other day and giving him my commitment, as John McCain’s running mate, that we will be committed to Georgia. And we’ve got to keep an eye on Russia. For Russia to have exerted such pressure in terms of invading a smaller democratic country, unprovoked, is unacceptable and we have to keep…
GIBSON: You believe unprovoked.
PALIN: I do believe unprovoked and we have got to keep our eyes on Russia, under the leadership there. I think it was unfortunate. That manifestation that we saw with that invasion of Georgia shows us some steps backwards that Russia has recently taken away from the race toward a more democratic nation with democratic ideals. That’s why we have to keep an eye on Russia.
And, Charlie, you’re in Alaska. We have that very narrow maritime border between the United States, and the 49th state, Alaska, and Russia. They are our next door neighbors.We need to have a good relationship with them. They’re very, very important to us and they are our next door neighbor.
GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
PALIN: They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.
GIBSON: What insight does that give you into what they’re doing in Georgia?
PALIN: Well, I’m giving you that perspective of how small our world is and how important it is that we work with our allies to keep good relation with all of these countries, especially Russia. We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it’s in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.
is this excerpt IN QUOTATIONS...from the admin director to the current Alaskan governor :
Palin's critics say she and her allies had stalled a freedom of information request for the emails made in September 2008. But Linda Perez, administrative director to the present Alaska governor and Palin ally, Sean Parnell, denied there had been any obstruction. "It was the sheer volume," she said. "Nothing else."
matter.of.fact......You betcha? Is that the best you can do? It is pretty lame to use ones' regional accents and/or expressions, as something to be criticized. Let's see: We have the Kennedy's with their Boston accent and expressions; Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, LBJ, Al Gore...all with southern draaawls and/or twangs. So, if you and others think throwing out a "You betcha" here and there is clever, you only sound clueless and desperate. YOU BETCHA!
Pay close attention--- The reason it took 3 years was due to the sheer volume of the email, not any one blocking the release.
I didn't say anyone was blocking the initial release. I said at the time of the release many of the emails had blackouts or were not included at all at the request of Alaska attorneys. If they had been released via computer it would have saved time and trees.
Ben, you are not the only one that sees a double standard....but the libs have the media on their side and they will only tell the public a quarter of the truth...the rest is propaganda....They have no interest in Obamas emails.
It was suggested that I should file a freedom of information act request to see Mr. Obama's emails. Has anyone else already done this? Are they now on the no fly list? I'd like to know before my next prostate exam.
There weren't any requests for Obama's emails, because you all were too busy wazzing out about his birth certificate to think to ask for them.
So you don't like having your candidates hassled about producing paperwork, which you deem ridiculous? You don't like when accusations and conspiracies are cloaked in "document requests"?
I'll use the justification you all did... "Well if she doesn't have anything to hide, why did she take so long to release them?"
All they have to do is request it like Mother Jones Magazine did below.
Try to keep up. These emails were requested by Mother Jones Magazine at the time Palin was chosen to be McCain's VP running mate. They wanted to write an article about her and at the time very little was known. It has taken this long for Alaska to comply with the request.
It was suggested that I should file a freedom of information act request to see Mr. Obama's emails. Has anyone else already done this? Are they now on the no fly list? I'd like to know before my next prostate exam.
You stand a better chance of doing this with President Obama than you did with George W. Bush who signed Executive Order 13233 (Google it) giving only limited access to the records of former US Presidents. President Obama revoked this order on 1 21 2009.
sarah...talk about making stuff up....you get the prize...How do you know how many requests there have been for information on Obama?....You dont need to outright lie and pretend that you know....anything....How about providing that list of people who visited the White House??? That was supposed to happen two yrs ago....Typical liberal...."we have no answers so we will just make something up that sounds good."
What are you talking about??? When did I say anything about lists of people or mention anything other then the birth certificate stuff? Which is totally on point to this situation. Are you denying that the birth certificate requests weren't the most talked about, pointless, document requests? They may have asked for more, but we heard the most about the B.C. And we thought it was slanderous and assinine, just like you all are saying the email requests are. And your response to Obama not releasing it was, "If you have nothing to hide..." What about any of that is made up, and when in my first post did I mention anything besides that?
Furthermore, bring the drama down. I don't see any personal insults towards you in my post.
You made the statement that there were no requests for Obama emails...and you dont know that...I didnt ever post about the birth certificate thing other than wonder why he didnt try to solve that problem for 2.5 yrs....No one wants to release all their emails and that is very understandable.....I repeat, we never did get the log for the visitors for the White House....and you know that is related.....
Actually this is totally stupid! There has never ... repeat never ... in the course of U.S. history been a total outsourcing of a character assassination action by a news organization.
Look, I get it, you guys don't like this woman. You didn't ... you don't ... you won't ... ever, ever, ever!!!! Give it a rest will you? Do you honestly think you're going to find anything ... much less anything that might change an opinion? You're not going to vote for her if she DID actually run.
God! you are obtuse!
How about we talk about something REALLY important like the U.S. Debt limit, reduction in spending, and a balanced federal budget?
So, I am curious as to why there is no request for emails that Barack Obama sent? I am curious as to why there is no request to release emails from Joe Biden or Nancy Pelosi or Hillary Clinton or Debbie Wasserman Schultz or Michelle Obama or Harry Reid?
What is the obsession with this woman? The amount of people here calling her an idiot, seems pretty idiotic to me. Is it because she doesn't talk like a harvard professor? Is it because you have all been told by the media how dumb she is? I don't understand the left's fascination with this woman and their constant attacks on her.
I don't think she is ready to be president yet and she probably knows that, but you have to appreciate her motivation and drive. I know the other argument is that she is only interested in herself and making money, but hey, that is America! Everyone wants to live a better life and make money and she has found a way to do that. She is not stealing money. She is not ripping off the taxpayer (You will have to talk to your elected officials to find that).
The fact that she doesn't get the women to stand up for her is ridiculous though. This is a woman who is self-made and has put herself on top. A small-town girl with big aspirations and has succeeded at almost every level. This should warrant praise not ridicule.
First, While I try not to have a bias, I am a news-aholic. So my big question - why does MSNBC have such a large attraction to Palin? To check, I go each day to other news web sites to see what is covered. Usually, all Palin stories together do not meet the number of Palin stories here at MSNBC. I travel in and outside the USA regularly. Again, Palin news in only found at MSNBC.
Change your focus a little. You are missing the parade that is going past - by focusing 100% on one clown.
The answer a to why no one is poring over e-mails of President Obama, Mrs. Clinton, Joe Biden et al is quite simple. They currently hold national public office. National Security.
Sari has never held national public office. She merely held the office of Governor for one half term before she showed her true colors and quit.
The fact that Palin was being considered for Vice President was sufficient to put the world on notice that the US is on the verge of lapsing into a period of erratic and unreliable stupidity, the like of which has not been seen before.
Her candidacy coupled with that of several other loony’s she supports diminish this countries standing in the world and causes others to question the sanity of the democratic process and the sanity of the American People.
Many Americans have clearly lost all sense of what it takes to be a world leader, a statesman, and a prudent strategist on the world stage. They have lost respect for their country, its principles, and themselves when they toy with weaklings as candidates for high office.
I continue to wonder why this woman is news at all. Hundreds of people come out with statements everyday that are of far more importance than anything Palin has to say. Hundreds of pretty woman are more capable than she of standing at a microphone and making speeches, woman who actually have something to say and something important to contribute.
Palin engages in shameless self promotion and the media seems to be willing to give her endless free publicity. What is going on here? Anyone else would have to pay for the advertising? I truly hope this infatuation will end soon before the world begins to believe that we have all lost our minds.
"Sari has never held national public office. She merely held the office of Governor for one half term before she showed her true colors and quit."
So, how long was Obama a Senator before this country felt he was experienced enough to be president? How's that working out for everyone?? Can he blame Bush for another 5 years and take no responsibility? I bet he can and will!
Let's forget about Sarah Palin for once and focus on the things that are a little more important. Let's see, maybe Jobs, the economy, the debt, political corruption and ethics violations, and tax evaders! Will this be "Recovery Summer" part II???
Occam, I have often wondered the same thing. MSNBC and liberals in general are obsessed with Palin,all the while wishing she would "go away". There are frequently 2 or 3 Sarah, Bristol, or Piper Palin stories per day on MSNBC, while real news networks don't report anything.
Edwards and Wiener are quickly forgotten while the Palin hysteria continues.
Liberals are truly afraid of her. She is smart, witty, extremely determined, and most fearful of all, Pro-Life. Palin destroys the liberal narrative that women and minorities are supposed to be victims ( also see Thomas, Clarence) .
The fact liberals hate is that the first female president will not be a liberal democrat. It will be a conservative pro-life Republican. Michelle Bachmann, Palin, Jan Brewer, and others are national stars while the dems have nobody. Hillary is tired and done and that's it.
So of course liberals trot out all the tired old chestnuts : She's stupid, her husband is really the power, she can't raise kids and hold public office, etc. It would be extremely offensive and sexist if conservatives said these kinds of things about women. But liberals are hypocrites.
I don't think Palin will run and her big mistake was not finishing her term. I do like Michelle Bachmann of Minnesota. The hatred and vitriol directed at conservative women candidates is truly appalling.
It's really amazing that some people will not rest until Sarah is destroyed. No money, no job, no way to make money. They just want it their way because for some reason she is a threat. They have torn her apart with lawsuits since she was nominated for VP. Why did anyone not scrutinize both the Obama's, their children to make sure they were really Michelle's? The Biden's, Hilary and all of the other candidates. No one has had this level of scrutiny that I am aware of. It seems now that Obama goverment is checking all potential candidates and their background to make sure they have sufficient information to run the liberal attack machine. This will be an infringement because some of these people have not declared their candidacy and they are not public people. So much for our freedoms.
The story is about Palin and that is why the comments are about Palin. If you don't want to read comments about her, go read another story that does not involve her.
No doubt the left wing whack jobs will scrutinize every one of these emails but to what end? Is this all they have to do in their lives? Well, as long as it makes them happy and keeps them off the streets, I say, go for it.
I find it interesting that the left expends so much time, money, and energy attacking Palin. I wonder why this is so? Do they fear her all that much? What other explanation can there be for their obsession with destroying her?
Frankie, Sarah Palin is a threat because she is so stupid and has a stupid following. It doesn't speak well for America. She and her followers are an embarassment to intelligent people everywhere. Read Witchking's post. It's pretty well written. Do you get it yet? Do the rest of us need to spell it out for you AGAIN for the millionth time?
marimon: and Obama isn't an embarrassment? Pelosi? "well I guess we'll have to pass it to find out what's in it"...."....I think we've been to every what...uh...all the 57 states"...I mean really.
Gary 420, you are the only person I know who would call Sara Palin smart. I'll bet you think that after Paul Revere's ride he went on to form a rock group called Paul Revere and the Raider's.
with Palin the possible wild card in the Republican field.
In MSNBC's dreams. The only people that pump this buffoon up is THE MEDIA. You guys can't stop talking about her, writing about her, dreaming if she was going to run. This idiot couldn't be elected dog catcher, much less be the nominee, NEVER HAPPEN. Not EVER! So next time you get sick of hearing about Palin thank Jon Stewart, Colbert, Maddow, Matthews, and every one of the networks that stoke the fire of this insanity daily. She is a national joke, and every republican knows she's not up to par in the intellect department, nor is she qualified to be POTUS. damn I wish her 15 minutes was up. Hey, MEDIA thanks for making it 30 minutes instead of 15, jerks!
Hey Gary420, Michelle Bachman is a disaster in the making. She's has ZERO chance at beating Obama, zero. She is a self absorbed wannabee who represents about a 20% group of loud mouthed religious zealots that are trying to ruin the republican party. She is arrogant, weak on business knowledge, and highly full of herself. She is EXACTLY what's wrong with politics and republicans in general. She is intellectually challenged much like Palin. And she's still fighting Roe vs. Wade 4 decades later, surely a winning strategy come 2012. lol
if the republicans nominate Bachman (which they NEVER will) just throw in the towel, you'd lose my vote and the tens of millions like me who are sick to death of religion hijacking my party. Religion is not a "resume builder" when it concerns running this country, that is a private matter. When I hear anyone spout off "I'm a Christian", I hide my wallet. Bachman on the ticket means the same as Palin on the ticket, it equals LOSER!!!
The bar has been set (complete disclosure of all e-mail activity while in public office), we can thank MSNBC for holding Sarah Palin to this standard (and in effect setting the bar for all future office holders) and all of us will hold MSNBC accountable for fairly applying it from this point on!
For those Republicans who feel they were being picked on know this, at some point in time you will want a similiar disclosure from a Democratic office holder and MSNBC is going to stand behind you to obtain it...they have to...because if they don't they lose ALL creditability as an unbiased news source, not just with you but from all the rest of us!
For now we can all join in the e-mail feast provided by MSNBC!
The Republicans, or others on this blog, are now invited to suggest names of office holders whose e-mails they feel should be made public!
I am disgusted and disappointed that a worthless piece of crap like Palin and her husband receive so much attention. It does scare me that there are people small minded enough to think she could actually be our President. I really feel that the interest is based on disgust and yes, some fear that these freaks could actually get anywhere with this. It's a fact that there are a lot of kooks out there.
Kenn...."Hold MSNBC accountable for fairly applying"....When has the media been held to that lie???
"At some point in time you will want a similar disclosure of a Democrat"....I want it now...Lets see some history of Obama that includes all the secret and off llimits stuff that the media wishes to hide from the public...
The article states: "At 9 a.m. in Juneau (1 p.m. ET), the governor's office in Juneau released to reporters 250 pounds of printed emails sent between the former governor (and her husband) and 50 state officials."
The first thing that comes to mind for me is why they couldn't release the undoubtedly timeless wit and wisdom in Ms. Palin's timeless missives on a couple of DVD's? It was already in electronic form as emails, so would that not have been easier than printing them?
J.A.: Begin to apply it now, by blogging and pointing out any bias you feel exists...but you need to be specific, like pjam was about the Weiner sexts! A lot of people read these blogs, but not everyone comments, if you make a good case on bias it reflects poorly on MSN...especially if they don't respond...and who knows maybe even the new owners, Comcast, are reading your blogs!
Astonished - I fail to see why you even ask why? MS-DNC could care less about "fairness" when it comes to Mrs. Palin. (Or for that matter, any Republican on a National Stage for the last 8 years) Yet have any other news organization or media outlet ask the same questions about a Democrat/Liberal and all hades breaks loose. Just look at how quick they were to collapse DKWog for making a similar comment.
Look at how many are characterizing her on this, and many other, strings. The brilliant comment that she never held public office, just Governor of Alaska shows you where their heads are. I guess the Alaska government is a private concern? And they are excusing MS-DNC for asking about the e-mails from the Democrats because they now hold "national public office" and "National Security" NEVER stopped them from hounding the Bush White House for copies of their correspondence.
When the media elected Obama we were promised transparency the White House and an end to the Bush era back room deals. What we got was the media excusing the Obama White House from doing things like not showing the White House guest book, making back room deals on the Spendulous and Obamacare bills, going to war with out Congressional approval (or even notification), and a host of other transgressions far exceeding anything that happened during the Bush years. And all they have to do is smile and blame the Republicans for every little faux-pas they commit, and the media goes right along with it.
They, the media and Democrats (which is a redundant grouping I know), wish to destroy this woman for whatever twisted reason they may have. I don't know if they are scared of her, hate all thing Conservative, or are just anti-female. Wouldn't it be great of women's rights groups would stand up for Mrs. Palin like they do for strippers who lie about Lacrosse Teams or women who have sex with politicians and killers?
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
Yes, they'd have to be paid anyway, but if it wasn't for this, they would be doing their regular duties for the citizens of the state of Alaska, not for the silly never-ending witch hunt the left continues to pursue, even 2+ years after the election.
BTW, someone above asked why all the to-do over Palin? It's the shiny objects theory-watch the shiny objects in my right hand, so you don't notice what I'm doing with my left hand. Might want to look for your wallet.....
Gary420 Liberals are truly afraid of her. She is smart, witty, extremely determined, and most fearful of all, Pro-Life. Palin destroys the liberal narrative that women and minorities are supposed to be victims ( also see Thomas, Clarence) .
That's got to be the funniest thing I've read today.
I think the main reason liberals are so focused on Palin and so vitriolic in their hate is that Obama is such a complete failure, they will use any distraction available to take the spotlight off their loser.
Obama is so done it's actually not funny, as he has taken us down with him. That anyone has interest in Palin only speaks to their deep desire to take the focus off the calamity before us.
These exemptions are not mandatory — the governor's office could release all of the records, but it has chosen to withhold the 2,275 pages. Many of the state employees making these decisions had worked in the Palin administration.
Anyone else see the irony in Republicans whining about the 1rst amendment and the constitution?
... and I feel the same way about Obama but I'm not organizing outsourced character assassination program against him by two newspapers!
you personally are not (on the larger scale) but don't forget the Limbaugh's, the O'Reilly's, The Becks, The Hannity's, The Palin's (still a Fox contributor), The Kelly's, the Rove's....I'm mean come, on. Do you live in a bubble?
There is plenty of anti-Obama media out there.
... and I feel the same way about Obama but I'm not organizing outsourced character assassination program against him by two newspapers!
Of course you won't do that, because Fox News already does it for you. Or have you forgotten about the birth-certificate BEAT DOWN you all received? Then you moved on to the musical talent booked at the White House, and your own hypocrisy was slapped in your face.
So what is the next retarded theory that will come from you and Fox News? Maybe you can blame Obama for the tornado's and not providing help . . . Oh wait. No, that was the GOP refusing to help the victims unless we make cuts to pay for it. Thanks, Eric Cantor. (Look it up)
Oh . . . maybe you can start a character assassination on Obama because his proposed legislation is too long. Oh wait, your presidential candidate Herman already did that. According to him, all bills are too long, so when he is President he will make sure that no bill is longer than 3 pages. Why? Because "you can read 3 pages at the dinner table." Ahhhh yes . . . Republicans don't like reading all those big, confusing words. Damn Obama and those evil liberals, and their ability to read beyond 3 pages. (Look it up)
Here, Astonished . . . let me help you start you next anti-liberal program. You can call it: "Real Americans CAN NOT Read. Vote GOP and limit the page length of legislation."
I believe they said "NATIONAL public office", which they are correct she has not held a national public office position, only a state elected position.
What bothers me most about Sarah Palin is her pathological denial of responsibility or error that seems to bleed over into her devoted followers. When asked a very standard question about her foreign policy experience she put her foot in her mouth and now when brought to question, she and her followers put the blame on the media. When asked which periodicals she reads to stay informed, again a very basic question, she was unable to formulate a intelligent and rational answer. Instead of taking responsibility for her mistake and possibly her ignorance she again blames the media and her loyal masses follow suit. During her time as Governor her behavior and ethics were called into question, and she resigned due to the pressures facing her from the resulting law suits and investigations. Yet again, poor Sarah it is not her fault the mean people who hate her are to blame. If she was unable to handle the pressure of her "detractors" as Governor of Alaska, what makes ANYONE believe it is magically going to become a zen experience for her if, god forbid, she's the first elected female President of the United States?
Red flags for me regarding Sarah Palin:
Unable or unwilling to take personal responsibility for her actions and their resulting consequences.
Deliberately attempting to use Yahoo mail to obfuscate her communications between public officials from public accountability.
Despite having resigned midterm due to financial and mental stress from investigations and lawsuits she incurred in a overwhelmingly conservative republican state she feels fit to hold the office of POTUS.
Her complicity to have books banned from a public library.
Her exclusive use of loyal staffers to compile her public record email for release.
Her undeniable involvement with the "bridge to nowhere" scam.
Her childish rebuttals... oh that's a "gotcha question".
Well, you miss the point in two respects. With respect to whatever you feel about FOX, Rove, etc. or whatever I feel about the NY Times and LA Times they are media entities which (though both of us may not be fond of one or the other) ... that's what they do investigate from their perspective.
This is a little different. It's outsourcing. The two papers are throwing out chum and asking for any hungry shark to feed. I'm not opposed to publishing (although I still think it's a waste) because the newspapers have a certain level of ethics in what they publish(Yes, I sometimes question it but ... that's what they do).
I am opposed to chumming because it generates crap on the bottom of the ocean!
BUT the biggest part you're missing is that all of this is not even worthy of your and my effort. There are bigger discussions that we ought to be having.
BUT the biggest part you're missing is that all of this is not even worthy of your and my effort. There are bigger discussions that we ought to be having.
I completely agree . . . there are more important things we should be focusing on.
Fox News continues to remind us that we need to focus on the IMPORTANT issues . . . like who tweeted a picture of his wiener, or what musical artist performed at the White House. Yes, THOSE are the important issues.
Thank you, Fox News. At first I was concerned with the market crashing, the jobs report, and our wars . . . but thanks to Fox, we all know that a wiener picture is the biggest threat to our country. And thanks to Fox News, hopefully we can focus on preventing ANOTHER rap artist from going to the White House. *phew*
Then why do you enable them? You must know by now that there is more of the MSNBC pubishing that I disagree with then that which I do. Having said that, I look at MSNBC and I comment or in this case ask "what the heck are you all making a fuss over". You'll never see me commenting on FOX, yet I do admit to listening. Similarly, you'll never (other than collapsing my comments) see me whining about MSNBC's perspective. It's left of left but I don't dwell on it. It's the discussion ... and truely, you and I disagree on a lot!
... but this is one that isn't worth the effort we've both put forth today!
Astonished - The rancor is so high because her numbers in the polls are moving up quickly - and she isn't even running! What really drives them nuts is - she hasn't even decided.
The conservatives aren't making her big. The tea party isn't making her big. The Establishment Republicans want no part of her. It's the liberals that are making her big. I've tried several times to tell these regular naysayers that and they just scream all the louder.
Gary420 - If she stayed on as governor there would have been another few hundred frivilous ethics complaints. I don't know if she was thinking run for president, but getting out of an undefendable position to fight another day has been her true record.
For the Record - Palin hasn't decided, and like the other two times she ran for office - she prepared as though she would. We have to wait for the final decision.
And for those who think Liberals are stupid, well, that is why they have never let up. If they don't tear her up, as Americans see what the liberals say about her as severely flawed - they will lose.
DB: "The conservatives aren't making her big. The tea party isn't making her big. The Establishment Republicans want no part of her. It's the liberals that are making her big. I've tried several times to tell these regular naysayers that and they just scream all the louder."
That's what her detractors just don't seem to get (which says as much about their thickheadedness as what they accuse Palin of possessing)....without her detractors, she would likely fade into relative obscurity (and a recurring spot on the lecture circuit for years to come).
nwnative: "I am disgusted and disappointed that a worthless piece of crap like Palin and her husband receive so much attention. It does scare me that there are people small minded enough to think she could actually be our President. I really feel that the interest is based on disgust and yes, some fear that these freaks could actually get anywhere with this. It's a fact that there are a lot of kooks out there."
Hmmm....would seem you've proved your own point. Bravo.
"If your idea of an engrossing tour through American history is reading 24,199 pages of emails from Sarah Palin's first two years as governor of Alaska..."
This sums-up the mentality of the progressive and liberal constituents of this Nation (notice I didn't say democrat or republican/independent). Wanting to pour-over the e-mails of Palin: how ridiculous!
I bet y'all were enthralled with the photo's of Weiner too!
nwnative: (#2.3) What the he// are you talking about? "There you have it"???? Have WHAT? "Sneaky, dishonest, hypocrite""? Not for lack of the media trying, but NOTHING of the sort was found!!
(#2.28) And you sound like "one of those kooks out there.." You need a soothing bath and a nap!
Actually more amazed that she could have the mental capacity to write enough material to cover over 24,000 pages... or were there a lot of omg's,ummmm', and uhhhh's?
Gee, Dan, if you're going to attack someone for being stupid, you could at least learn to write a grammatically correct sentence. Your complete lack of a subject in your sentence sort of hurts your credibility.
Since when have you become the grammar police Spider?
The very fact that they moved PUBLIC records to private accounts is very suspicious to me. If they had nothing to hide, then why do this?
Funny thing is, had they simply released the records when they were requested, any problematic e-mails may well have blown over by now. Bad, bad timing for her.
Gee, Dan, if you're going to attack someone for being stupid, you could at least learn to write a grammatically correct sentence. Your complete lack of a subject in your sentence sort of hurts your credibility.
Usually when someone starts attacking the grammar of a poster they lack any other fodder for debate.
Making a mistake while composing a post on an internet forum does not make you stupid. Not knowing Africa is a continent and not a country does.
Your complete lack of a subject in your sentence sort of hurts your credibility.
When the subject of the sentence is "I" it can often be dropped as it is implied and understood. In his particular case it may not be exaclty proper, but this is an internet forum and it was a rather minor grammar error.
capacity to write enough material to cover over 24,000 pages
Depends what format the emails are in - if they are in 'memo' format (the default usually) the minimum pages per email is 1 page. So a single sentence email, like "you betcha!" would be 1 page. =P.
@Mike -- Other examples of being stupid and an embarrassment is toasting the Queen of England while the U.K.National Anthem is playing showing total disrespect and presenting an award to another head of state before toasting her and signing the Westminister Abbey book with the wrong date -- not by one or so days but by a whopping three years.
"Gee, Dan, if you're going to attack someone for being stupid, you could at least learn to write a grammatically correct sentence. Your complete lack of a subject in your sentence sort of hurts your credibility."
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Spider at 3.6:
"Well BJ, about the same time as you became the expert political analyst that you are."
Uh-oh...looks like the itsy-bitsy Spider got his web twisted in a wad. Palin supporter...huh? If so, looks like your intelligence level is showing, or lack there of. Doh!!!
@Mike -- Other examples of being stupid and an embarrassment is toasting the Queen of England while the U.K.National Anthem is playing showing total disrespect and presenting an award to another head of state before toasting her and signing the Westminister Abbey book with the wrong date -- not by one or so days but by a whopping three years.
Right - because not know another countries customs is the same as being a complete, uneducated idiot. Makes perfect sense.
I am baffled as to why AK did not release the emails in digital form.
To be a pain in the rear (business as usual for Sara Fail'en). What they don't realize is a scanning team can have this amount of documentation OCR'ed and converted to digital by lunch.
Palin shows many times that she can beat Mr. Teleprompter anytime. Ignorants and media laugh before, when she said she can see Russia from her (Alaska) backyard ,but the truth is that Russia have territories only miles away from Alaska. Liberals hate Palin because she stand against everythingliberals stand for. The coward attacks against this woman shows precisely what the left is.
@Mike Yes!!! Being inexperienced in foreign traditions, not reading the playbook or listening to his advisers, not being prepared for "gotcha" moments does make one an ignoramus when one is representing our great country. Ya betcha!
Palin shows many times that she can beat Mr. Teleprompter anytime. Ignorants and media laugh before, when she said she can see Russia from her (Alaska) backyard ,but the truth is that Russia have territories only miles away from Alaska.
So what? That doesnt give her foreign policy experience. I live next to a military vet - does that give me VA experience?
Liberals hate Palin because she stand against everythingliberals stand for.
So Palin is against intelligence, education, common sense, social programs, diplomacy before war?
Ignorants and media laugh before, when she said she can see Russia from her (Alaska) backyard ,but the truth is that Russia have territories only miles away from Alaska.
People didn't laugh because she could "see" Russia from her house. People laughed because she used this as her only credential for foreign policy experience.
Also, you should check your grammar, because spider-737231 has been as appointed the official grammar police by the Palins
Palin shows many times that she can beat Mr. Teleprompter anytime.
teleprompter vs writing on hand......that's a tough one. And by reading your post one can assume that you claim that Ms. Palin has not ever used, is not using and will never use a teleprompter.
Other examples of being stupid and an embarrassment: landing on a flight deck in full Halloween costume declaring "Mission Accomplished" eight years and counting prematurely, giving a public back rub to German's female president, seeing Russian president's soul, attempting to exit from a locked door, mangling language, etc.
Actually Gaga is a very good role model for her followers "Little Monsters". She is not a sanctimonious phony who hates everyone who is not a white, evangelical heterosexual. And she makes up song lyrics--not American history!!! Lady GaGa 2012!!!!!!
@Mike -- Other examples of being stupid and an embarrassment is toasting the Queen of England while the U.K.National Anthem
Was Obama PLAYING the national anthem while he was talking or did the ones that were PLAYING it screwed up? It was publicized that it was not his mistake.
Other examples of being stupid and an embarrassment is toasting the Queen of England while the U.K.National Anthem is playing showing total disrespect and presenting an award to another head of state before toasting her and signing the Westminister Abbey book with the wrong date -- not by one or so days but by a whopping three years.
I agree that another country's customs of proper 'court decorum' should be well researched beforehand. But those are faux-pas that even a very educated person can make.
But, I frankly don't support monarchies or their courtly courtesies, so I really don't hold it against him for not following them.
Palin, on the other hand, lacks fundamental education. Which is different than not knowing the intricacies of the British Royal Court.
"And by reading your post one can assume that you claim that Ms. Palin has not ever used, is not using and will never use a teleprompter"
The difference is that she can speak with or without teleprompter. She don't need teleprompter to say how many states have our country . I'm sure she won't ashame our country giving to the Queen of England an iPod as a present from our nation or bows to the King of Saudi Arabia .
I'm sure she won't ashame our country giving to the Queen of England an iPod as a present from our nation or bows to the King of Saudi Arabia .
Not enough courtly courtesy vs. too much courtly courtesy is it? Both are monarchs, and both are 'officially' strong allies of the US.
Whether you like the Saudis or not, it doesn't matter - an ally must be treated as such, even a precarious ally. Although I do not agree to bowing to monarchs, I think Obama's actions in England were far more appropriate when dealing with royalty.
@Mike -- Other examples of being stupid and an embarrassment is toasting the Queen of England while the U.K.National Anthem is playing showing total disrespect and presenting an award to another head of state before toasting her and signing the Westminister Abbey book with the wrong date -- not by one or so days but by a whopping three years.
actually ? your the one being stupid and should be embarrassed.
fact is the fault was the Orchestras ... not Obamas.
During the president's toast to the Queen at Buckingham Palace this week, the orchestra misunderstood a cue and began playing the national anthem, cutting him off in the middle of his toast even though he was not quite done reading his 3×5 cards.
Palin ranted and raved about how Obama wouldn't release his birth certificate, while all the while refusing to release the email from her time as governor. Talk about hypocrisy.
As easy as it is to do, there is no need to bash Palin. She will continue to prove her ignorance everytime she opens her mouth. Personally, I hope she runs and gets the GOP nomination. Can you imagine a debate with Obama?
Ben - You're fighting a loosing battle trying to convince folks that the President makes mistakes. It was the bands problem they started playing our National Anthem, like they normally do at state dinners when the visiting head of state stands, and not the President's for not reading the program.
I guess it was Fox News' fault for pointing out that there are 50 states and not 57. I guess it was the Tonight Show's writers problem for writing the "Jerry's Kids" joke. I guess it was Best Buy's fault he gave the wrong formatted DVD's to Mr. Blair. I bet Apple sold the I-Pod pre-loaded with Obama speeches that he gave to the Queen. And I bet Michelle locked all the doors in the White House when the President got locked out.
And I bet most who will vilify me for writing this believe Mrs. Palin said "I can see Russia from my house".
dudoger...People from different states have different regional expressions and accents. Your thinking by saying "You betcha" is a slam, makes you the one who appears clueless. Did you ever hold the Kennedy's Boston accent and expressions up to ridicule? How about Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, LBJ, John Edwards, Al Gore for their drawls and their "y'alls"?
Your, and others' "you betcha's" say more about your lack of sophistication than you know. YOU BETCHA!
Why isn't Obama's records/emails released? I think Obama isn't leaving any paper trail whatsoever. He has closed-door, private meetings. He meets with officials in restaurants, like a private investigator. There is zero transparency in this administration. Just google "closed door meetings obama" and you will garner many links. He just held another one June 1st...no C-SPAN, no media allowed!!! It is all a big secret with Obama.
Lobbyists: Obama White House Hides Meetings Off-Site
Why isn't Obama's records/emails released? I think Obama isn't leaving any paper trail whatsoever. He has closed-door, private meetings. He meets with officials in restaurants, like a private investigator. There is zero transparency in this administration. Just google "closed door meetings obama" and you will garner many links. He just held another one June 1st...no C-SPAN, no media allowed!!! It is all a big secret with Obama.
Lobbyists: Obama White House Hides Meetings Off-Site
Just because there's a witch hunt doesn't mean that there was any effort to hide from the witch hunters. There's no difference between a personal e-mail address and a personal phone number, and most employers want their employees personal phone number as a matter of course.
What's Sarah Palin supposed to do, drive all the way to the Capitol to get a government computer for every little correspondence? She can't just walk to her den and make what amounts to a phone call, saving a couple of hours on the road?
Public records laws are getting in the way of common sense. If Sarah Palin had jumped into an SUV and driven a hundred times a day to the Capitol just to send an e-mail, then her haters would be on the global warming warpath.
I hope these goofballs are proud of crippling the ability of government computer e-mail to be flexible enough to ever be a useful communications tool again. Just kill the .gov domain for e-mail now and give the witch hunters the satisfaction of their kill.
You do realize that an email address is not tied to a specific computer, right? She could very easily read and reply to an email from her den on her official email as easily as a web based email address.
She could use a smartphone or just microsoft outlook.
What's Sarah Palin supposed to do, drive all the way to the Capitol to get a government computer for every little correspondence? She can't just walk to her den and make what amounts to a phone call, saving a couple of hours on the road?
LMAO; so you are going to pretend to not know that you can access an email account from elsewhere? Why am I not surprised?
I want Obama's, Biden's, Hillary's, Pelosi's, Reid's, Boxer's.........hell I want ALL their PERSONAL emails!!! And I really want to know what you lefty libs are afraid of that you have time and again gone after Palin. It's very obvious that MSNBC, the White House and you lefties are afaid of something.
How sad that with all the real problems in the world people are with gleeful delight taking potshots (and wasting their time) with Mrs. Palin's e-mails. Heaven help any of us if MSNBC was able to get their hands on our personal e-mails and decided to publish them for all the nasties out their who are commenting on and denigrating Sarah Palin.
Whether you agree with her or not; there is a degree of decorum and civility as well as privacy that everyone - even a public figure such as she - deserves and should be accorded. SHAME ON YOU self-righteous, ignorant as well as callous individuals out there who take such pleasure in the harsh things you are saying. At least, she believes in what she is saying and doing her best to stand up for the family values she holds near and dear, among which I am sure good manners were one of the things she was taught and teaches - unlike the rabble engaged here in their hate fest.
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
This is just craziness. Think of all the money that has been wasted on this. Just to destroy someone who the media disagrees with. Most of America disagrees with the woman, can't be happy just to disagree, lets destroy the woman. I'm wondering why all this was so important, no one asked Obama for his emails during his run for election. He is the most inexperienced candidate there has ever been, yet no one questioned him about any of his emails, school papers, etc. I guess from now on, we'll say Breitbart is just like the rest of the media, (especially NBC/MSNBC)out to destroy anyone they disagree with.
Perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black. Hillary was sitting in on all of the cabinet meetings when Bill was Pres. Reagan relied on Nancy's opinions also. ALL of the spouses share things with their husbands/wives. NOW it's bad because MAYBE Palin did the same? Pull your head out bayllie.
It really is kind of a pain to access government e-mail accounts from personal computers. Because of the firewalls involved there's got to be a VPN (Virtual Private Network) between the personal computer and the government network. It's really not worth the hassle for a quickie blurb e-mail.
It says in the article that Alaska has problems with high-speed internet access because so many areas are so remote. VPN sucks over my 25MBPS Cable 'Net and it would be an absolute horror over dial-up speeds.
Sally, I am usually a critic of your choices, But Hampster post 7 certainly needs to be deleted. (congratulations on good thinking)....but it is still there....
This is nothing more than the lefts attempt to discredit her. How about we release all of Obamas emails or Harry Reids or Rangles or Barney Franks . I'm sure there is alot of dirt there.
She discredited herself the minute she stepped onstage, toting little Trig as her family-values, attached-at-the-hip, political prop. That, and the fact that she doesn't even read... Chuckle... Snort!
Being proud of one's child is a discredit to a person. You must not have children, family or friends that have grandchildren who were born out-of-wedlock. Otherwise you wouldn't be cruel. Should the grand parents hide their grand children born out-of-wedlock?
thing is, she's does plenty to discredit herself, just sayin... talk about doin all the work for folks... she's an idiot.... anyone can clearly see that...
we're not talking about being proud of your children, we're talking about using them as a political prop
Name me me a politician that does not use their children and grand children in high profile political races. Family has become an integral part of campaigning. One can call another an idiot based on their inability to know how to type in proper grammar format. That is what is evident to me.
Hey dudogger...She's his MOTHER! She has every right, even obligation, to keep her little boy close to her. Especially considering he is a Down Syndrome child.
How is it you've never noticed that all of the politicians have their children on the stage with them, in photos, etc.? Who were those little girls whose photos were published Trick-or-Treating on Halloween, playing with the dog, planting a garden, playing on the swing sets on White House lawn, shopping in Europe, swimming in the Gulf, in Hawaii, going to first day of school???
@ John - I was wonderinf the same thing. I'm sure in all fairness MSNBC requested Obama's and Bidden's e-mails at the same time. And I'm just as sure those two complied immedatly to the request.
Anyone know where I can read those e-mails? No? Hum...
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
As more than one person has said, one of the reasons her emails were asked for was because she was cc'ing her husband and they are government documents since she was using her state account. Duh, it's not brain science. Also, she has ethics violations. FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) requests are very lengthy and noteworthy. The fact they were released is really quite an accomplishment by the press. There has to be a reason for them to be released and the state or the person can deny it and it can go before a judge. However, it is part of the First Amendment. Since Obama is still in office and there is technically been no formal complaints of ethics violattions, the press (not your average idiot Joe) has no reason to make a FOIA request. These emails are being released to the press, who is sharing them with the public. Maybe, if some of you would brush up on the constiution and the history behind the reason for it, we wouldn't have so many idiotic posts on here.
Also, FYI, MSNBC leans to the liberal side of things and does not apologize for it. If you're looking for something else, go to CNN or Fox. They haven't trademarked the lie of "Fair and Balanced" and done the complete opposite.
She had one ethics violation - sort of. The official line was guilty of abuse of power for not controlling her staff. Um - her husband was not offically ever part of the staff. All the Troopergate email, phone calls, confrontations were all from Todd and Monegan assumed that to be coming from Palin. Even Monegan in testimony noticed Palin at a distance seeming puzzled as to what was going on between him and Todd.
The travel expense was a poorly written law. The special prosecuter even admitted it would be tossed in court. The bottom line was it would be less costly for the Palin's to repay than pay legal fees to get the case tossed. Not guilty businesses pay settlements all the time for the same reason.
Everything else brought against Palin was pure partisan groundless charges that were all dismissed at the cost of bad publicity and attorney's fees.
dudoger...People from different states have different regional expressions and accents. Your thinking by saying "You betcha" is a slam, makes you the one who appears clueless. Did you ever hold the Kennedy's Boston accent and expressions up to ridicule? How about Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, LBJ, John Edwards, Al Gore for their drawls and their "y'alls"?
You and others who think throwing out"you betcha's" is a slur and an insult to Palin, says more about your lack of sophistication than you know. YOU BETCHA!
If being an imbecile means that I can come from obscurity to the national stage and in a few short years make millions of dollars for my family, I wouldn't care what you called me.
Hampster?? Isn't that a little rodent who spins in a wheel going nowhere then dies?
All about grabbing the fast, easy cash, isn't it, Benji? That justifies everything, which is how the GOBP is systematically trashing our good country today.
Quit gov't job... Go to Fixed Noise... Cash in... Repeat as often as yer greed will allow.
If being an imbecile means that I can come from obscurity to the national stage and in a few short years make millions of dollars for my family, I wouldn't care what you called me.
Only in America is your worth to society measured in dollar signs. Doesnt matter that you're a failure. Doesnt matter if you're completely and utterly stupid. As long as you're rich - you are great.
Hampster?? Isn't that a little rodent who spins in a wheel going nowhere then dies?
What are you ten? Your posts smack of prepubescent MTV idiocy.
When has it become wrong to make money -- legally -- taking advantage of your situation? She is a best selling author; she has a cable TV series; she is wanted on the speaker circuit; she has a contract as a cable contributor. You call that greed because you are jealous and petty. This is America where anyone has the opportunity to become successful. Those who are not wail on the success of others. The left make fun of people who live in trailer parks -- those who you purport to want to protect. What hypocrites.
@Mike -- No one ever said that wealth contributed to one's worth to society and only fools would call her a failure. She has been successful at every business venture she has taken on. Rich doesn't mean great but I do not begrudge anyone who can take advantage of one's situation, overcome some of the most vile attacks on her and her family and come out on top.
Sorry about the hampster analogy. You are correct.
@Mike -- No one ever said that wealth contributed to one's worth to society and only fools would call her a failure.
She's been a failure (or quitter) at everything she has done with the exception of being a partisan hack. If that is your metric for success - more power to you.
I dont begrudge her making crap loads of money either - that doesnt mean anything other than she has found a way to make money. That doesnt make her smart or successful in any avenue she pursues except for being a fox news boob.
Sorry Mike -- you are wrong. Best selling authors are failures? Having a cable TV series is being a failure? Having a demand for speaking engagements is being a failure? People quit jobs all the time to pursue other endeavors. Why shouldn't a politician be afforded that same privilege? If she didn't like the job, she didn't like the job. Why wouldn't you expect a Republican candidate for Vice president to be a "hack" for their party. The democrats are party hacks as well -- nothing wrong with that.
To quote you at you:
What are you ten? Your posts smack of prepubescent MTV idiocy.
Ben, she she had ghost writers. Her show was cancelled (mainly for her constant political attacks and questionable hunting practices) and her speaking engagements have shrunk.
Sorry Mike -- you are wrong. Best selling authors are failures?
No. But best selling authors who write books on partisan hackery are. You do realize that anyone with half a brain who purchased that book did so for either comic relief or to see what's in that idiots head. Anyone who seriously bought it to be enlightened needs their head exmined.
Having a cable TV series is being a failure? Having a demand for speaking engagements is being a failure? People quit jobs all the time to pursue other endeavors. Why shouldn't a politician be afforded that same privilege?
Whoa whoa whoa here. I told you I could care less how rich she is or what she does. I do care however that she is making a go for the most powerful position in the free world - i.e. the country I live in when she cant even fulfill her governor obligations in one of the smallest populated states in the country.
If she didn't like the job, she didn't like the job. Why wouldn't you expect a Republican candidate for Vice president to be a "hack" for their party. The democrats are party hacks as well -- nothing wrong with that.
A politician who cant finish out their elected duties (i.e. quits) and immediately gets a commentary contract with Fox news is a hack. Especially one who is blatantly ignorant.
To quote you at you:
What are you ten? Your posts smack of prepubescent MTV idiocy.
Right - because me making points as to the stupidity of sarah palin is analogous with 10 year old justin beiber ramblings. Gotcha.
@NYMike -- You strike when the iron is hot and you make the most of it. The land of opportunity. Her shrinking engagements have shrunk may be correct but your assumptions on the other two only come from left-wing hack sites.
@Mike -- you are wrong and where did you see she "is making a go" for the most powerful position in the free world. I personally don't believe she would make a good president but she has every right to try for the position if she so chooses. Don't you recall Eliot Spitzer quitting then landing a contract on a cable news channel. He must be a hack as well -- especially his resignation was in disgrace. I choose ignorant over disgraceful any day of the week.
@Mike -- you are wrong and where did you see she "is making a go" for the most powerful position in the free world. I personally don't believe she would make a good president but she has every right to try for the position if she so chooses. Don't you recall Eliot Spitzer quitting then landing a contract on a cable news channel. He must be a hack as well -- especially his resignation was in disgrace.
Yes he is a hack. A morally corrupt hack. But not a brain dead hack.
I choose ignorant over disgraceful any day of the week.
@Mike -- Ignorance, lack of intelligence, whatever you want to call it does not show a lack of character that morally and politically corrupt people show. Yeah I choose ignorance over a lack of character any day.
The GM and president of TLC, Eileen O'Neill had high hopes this was going to be a compelling show, but went on to state that there was simply no reality to it. They also questioned her Caribou hunting and fishing too close to bears. It's not a left wing hack site when the president of the network that aired the show states the show lacked any kind of reality, or that the hunting practices were questionable.
For someone that claims to have hunted her whole life, she sure doesn't know much about it.
Ben - Sorry can't take it anymore....Character, Sarah? Pregnant with Track and elopes with Todd in Palmer. Didn't even tell there Parents. Quits her Job as Gov. More strong Character skills. Try to Have Brother In-Law Fired from the State Troopers. Fires the Librarian because she wont ban Books.
Yes Ben she sure morally sound person. You Betcha!!!!
If being an imbecile means that I can come from obscurity to the national stage and in a few short years make millions of dollars for my family, I wouldn't care what you called me
Paris Hilton made millions and is known nationally...all of the world. You want her to run for POTUS based on those credentials?
Ben, Sarah Palin's f'ing TV show was cancelled because of public outcry to the Learning Channel (Learning Channel, what a joke).
Brittany Spears is worth 100 million dollars. She is as dumb as a doorknob. She voted for Bush. She is a singer who can't sing. Mostly its her tits and a** and raunchy videos where she is dressed up like a schoolgirl to titillate child molesters. Sarah Palin is the "political" equivalent. Get it?
"People quit jobs all the time to pursue other endeavors. Why shouldn't a politician be afforded that same privilege? If she didn't like the job, she didn't like the job."
There's a HUGE difference between working a job and being an elected official. I took my current job for three main reasons: 1) to make money, 2) advancement opportunities, and 3) I was interested in the field.
I hope that elected officials go into politics because they want to help. I think, for the most part, that's true. While I think corruption happens to most, if not all, of them at some point, I think most entered politics because they did want to help others. I don't want people going into politics for the money, power or prestige. I want public servants who love their state and country.
Palin quit because she could make more money as a writer, commentator and speaker. She didn't leave for another office (if she had been elected VP) or after her first term. She abandoned her people because she wasn't making enough money or obtaining enough power as Governor of Alaska. She could obtain much more on book tours, Fox News, and speaking at conferences.
Best selling authors are failures? Having a cable TV series is being a failure? Having a demand for speaking engagements is being a failure?
That is COMMERCIAL success. There is nothing wrong with commercial success. I've acheived a bit of it myself. However, that doesn't mean she is beneficial or a success in society. It just means she has the ability to make money.
For example, Stephanie Meyer makes million on the Twilight books. Is she a commercial success? Yes. Is she a literariy success? No. Her books are poorly written drivel that in no way reflects on our society or creates memorable characters. Another example would be Charlie Sheen. He had a television show as well. He has a tone of money. He is a commercial success. Is he the type of person you would consider to be successful in life? Depends on how you measure success.
Props to Palin for being able to sell books, get people to pay her speaking fee and get viewers to tune in to watch her run her mouth. That's the only way she is successful. She adds nothing to the discourse except division. She has no ideas on how to fix the economy. She has no ideas on how to trim the deficit. She has no idea how to address illegal immigration. She only knows how to use rhetoric about "gotcha questions" and "liberal media elites."
I am not a Palin fan and I just can't understand the obsessive fascination with her. She isn't particularly interesting, for sure, but you folks are sure interested.
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
Uhm, tell me Obama's credentials again? Lets see he was a state senator who never voted anything but present while in the Illinois Senate, then he was a Senator from Illinois for about a year before he started campaigning for president. Why isn't that interesting. Obama is no more qualified than Palin to be president, yet here he is.
Latsky...She never did, nor ever tried to fire a librarian.
Barack and Michelle "shacked up" before marriage. So what does that make them? The minute it was revealed that Obama's minister and mentor of 20 years was a problem for his image, Obama threw him under the bus. Just a couple of "comparisons" with what you call a lack of character in Palin to the foibles of Barack Obama.
NYMike....You DO realize that Obama also had ghost writers for his books don't you? They ALL use assistance when they write books. How naiev can you be?
Marinmom...What can I say? You're just plain demented...and you're putting down Palin??????
Yes, Agggie. I am putting down Palin. I wouldn't have a problem with her if she weren't stupid enough to think she would make a good president. If YOU think she would make a good president, you are stupid too.
Marinmom: Ah, but therein lies the difference between you and me. I never said I would vote for Palin. You, however, probably DID vote for the incompetent in the White House now. Learn by your mistakes, before you call others names.
Palin has done nothing to harm this country or screw up our economics and isnt even in public office....Obama on the other hand.....and which one do you investigate, insult, ridicule???
Commons Sence 1: The only problem is that she never said that. It was Tina Fey, portraying Palin in a Saturday Night Live skit who said that.
Palin's actual quote, and the source for the Saturday Night Live rewriting of history came from an interview that Palin gave to Charles Gibson of ABC News, where she said:
"They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."
And it also happens to be totally factual and completely accurate. Of course the liberals always forget those little details. And it's no surprise that they confuse Saturday Night Live with reality. I'm sure it's one in the same to them.
Of course liberals always forget those little details? Who was it who showed a picture of Tina Fey when discussing Sarah Palin. The conservative mother ship (and Sarah Palin employer): Fox News.
Also, I wouldn't really use Palin's actual words as a defense to what SNL made up. Arguing that you have foreign policy experience because you can see Russia from land in Alaska is ludicrous. I vacationed in Europe but that doesn't mean I have foreign policy experience.
Lizzie: Palin, as the governor of a state closer to Russia than any other and a border state of Canada, has more foreign policy experience than Obama ever had as a senator.
With the exception of killing Bin Laden, if you want to include that in foreign policy, the rest of Obama's foreign policy ventures have been pretty much nothing but one disaster after another.
But even the Bin Laden kill was only given a pass because the attempt was successful. (And I'm very glad it was, and will give him credit for the kill) But, had it been a failure....no notice or approval from congress, no permission from Pakistan.....then Obama would be batting about 0 in foreign policy successes.
Begging China to buy more debt, telling Isreal to go back to being a country 9 miles wide, sending back the bust of Winston Churchill, which was a gift from our staunchest ally, one protocol disaster after another with the Queen and on and on. Oh yeah, that Obama, he's a foreign policy master all right.
And as far as Fox news: Well, you've convinced me. Yes, that was such a grievous error on the part of that organization, that I can tell you, I will never vote for them again for any public office ;-)
If the Emails haven't been tampered with, already a bunch of it has been discarded as private. My thoughts is that nothing is private if it is sent on a government computer, that makes it public. Two years to fine tune what is turned over as public matter. Palin didn't quit as govenor because she wanted to go into private business, she quit because she was facing ethics charges and private use of public property. I quess that Nixon didn't quit because he was dirty, he just wanted to write a book and make money, right? Why would Palin's quitter attitude not carry over if she was president, I don't want a president who would quit on me. Ask me if she should have quit as govenor of Alaska and I'll say "you betcha".
Obama is much more stealthy than any other politician. He has made sure that no one will ever see his past, see his school records, his Senate records, and has carried over those habits into the Whitehouse. No paper trail for Obama!!!
Lobbyists: Obama White House Hides Meetings Off-Site
And most of his senate votes were "present" . Too bad the only thing he brought to the Whitehouse was a ego the size of Alaska and arrogance like none we have seen.
Obama is much more stealthy than any other politician. He has made sure that no one will ever see his past, see his school records, his Senate records,
school records are private and releasing them is not a requirement to become POTUS. If they were, the coke sniffing Bush would have never been elected. Senate records can be viewed any time. If you bothered to look you would quickly find out that all votes are on record: http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/a_three_sections_with_teasers/votes.htm
Obama is much more stealthy than any other politician. He has made sure that no one will ever see his past, see his school records, his Senate records,
school records are private and releasing them is not a requirement to become POTUS. If they were, the coke sniffing Bush would have never been elected. Senate records can be viewed any time. If you bothered to look you would quickly find out that all votes are on record: http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/a_three_sections_with_teasers/votes.htm
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
vingaroon....FYI the e-mails have not been in Palin's possession, but in the possession of the State of AK. So there is no way she could have tampered with anything. Anything that is deemed "private" is just that PRIVATE and has nothing to do with State business. And the STATE determined which to delete, not Palin. So your tampering/hiding blah, blah theory holds no credibility.
I would also love to see Obama's emails as a Senator, Biden's, and especially Pelosi's. I will bet that MSNBC won't go after them. LOL, MSN shows it's bias every day on here!
Gullibility and credulity are considered undesirable qualities in every department of human life -- except religion. -Christopher Hitchens, author and journalist (b. 1949)
I would have loved to see GWB's papers and transcripts. I doubt they would have been impressive. If he wasn't a legacy student because of his father he never would have gotten into Yale. Shame on them.
President Obama graduated from some of the best universities in the country - and was editor of the Harvard Law Review, arguably the most prestigious such publication in the country. All the cries of "affirmative action" are BS.
Obama never wrote anything while president of the Law Review. And can any of you Obama fans explain why we can't see his college records. Why has he sealed them? None of you have an answer for that. If graduating from those great universities makes him brilliant, then George Bush must be, too. Harvard and Yale aren't podunk schools.
Oh Linda, you Birther types are so one-track minded, aren't you?? Get new talking points, Girl! Everyone's BORED with Birther mentality - move ON GIRL!!
Obama is much more stealthy than any other politician. He has made sure that no one will ever see his past, see his school records, his Senate records, and has carried over those habits into the Whitehouse. No paper trail for Obama!!! I still want to know why Rev Wright got so much money from Obama when he sat on those non-profit boards. And most of his charitable donations on his income tax were to Wright in 2006. (required to reveal to IRS to claim)
Lobbyists: Obama White House Hides Meetings Off-Site
DoobieDo, typical Liberal. You can only insult people and never come up with a reasonable answer. I knew you wouldn't have a reason for his secrecy. Why won't he show his records. I'm asking again and waiting for your answer.
not the best student was he but here are his other accomplishments:
It is important to realize here that George W. was 30 years old at the time he got his DUI. By the time most people are 30, they are no longer allowed to claim “youth” as an excuse for misjudgment and illegal behavior, Bush blames it on his youth.
In addition, Dick Cheney was picked up twice in Wyoming for driving under the influence of alcohol. Mr. Cheney picked up his badges of honor at the ages of 21, and 22.
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
Linda, why should Obama show his school records? What purpose do you have for wanting to see how he did in Western Civ or Criminal Procedure? If he had a 2.0, he would still be the President of the United States.
Now, I'm going to explain how Law Review works. This is from personal experience. There are two ways onto Law Review (or Law Journal); grade your way on or write your way on. After the first semester of law school, the top students are invited onto law journal. During the second semester of the 1L (first year) year, there is a write-on competition. Interested students write and submit a paper for review. The paper works in tandem with GPA to determine who is admitted to law journal.
During your second year of law school (sometimes both semesters), you write an article or opinion. These are long, arduous and full of footnotes. ALL new students submit a paper to a professor for feedback. It is then determined which papers will be published in the bound copy of the law school's law journal/review. Not everyone is published. Once the opinions and articles chosen for publication have been decided EVERYONE helps with "source and cite." This is a tedious process where you check very letter, every citation, to determine if it is properly done. Law review articles can be cited by courts and in briefs so journals/reviews want to make sure the articles chosen are top notch.
Also during the 2L year, a student is picked to become Editor-In-Chief. Interested students submit applications. There are numerous criteria used to chose the Editor. Writing skills are taken into account but so are other skills as well. The Editor is responsible for making sure the volume produced is top notch. The new editor then selects the board.
During the 3L year, most editors write papers (mine did) but their main focus is on getting everything ready for publication.
Yes, sweetie, Obama did write in law school. He just wasn't published.
Baylie, it has noting to do with whether I like Bush or not. Just making a point that if graduating from the ivy league schools makes you brilliant, then he must be brilliant, too.
Thank you for explaining the process for the Review. Usually, Liberals just throw barbs and make no attempt to help educate. I still think that Obama has been and continues to be way too secretive. A president's life should be an open book. He should have nothing to hide.
again, Linda...you can't make rules up as you go. Rules are supposed apply to all not just the ones you dislike. So my point was, Bush was asked to release his school records and that was his choice not to. It's not a requirement to become POTUS. If you would like it to be, change the rules.
just throw barbs and make no attempt to help educate.
since it was your question, why didn't you just look it up but waited for someone to explain it to you? It's the Liberals' fault that you don't bother to look things up?
Lizzie, I think we are wasting our time here. People like Linda in Texas have stupidity so ingrained in them that no amount of posts will ever make them see the truth.
I think the only solution is for the US to separate into two countries. The first country will be the United States of Jesus. There all you delusional people with imaginary friends can govern yourselves, rob each other blind, send YOUR kids off to die in the wrong wars and masturbate to pictures of Sarah Palin, George W.Bush and Newt Gingrich.
The second country should be called the United States of Reality. It will consist of the residents of the Blue States (Democrats). People holding political office will have REAL educations that pertain to government. All the artistic people will live in this country so our movies and music will be the best. Most of the scientists, too. Health care will be available to anyone. There will be gobs and gobs of money because we won't have those stupid Red welfare states sucking down all our tax revenues. Churches won't have tax free status so a lot of them will close and real estate will be cheap again. We won't be spending all our money on whorish overinflated defense contractors like Halliburton so we will all be filthy rich and happy. We can watch as the United States of Jesus wallows in ignorance and squalor. We won't help when they are attacked by the rest of the world, either. No way.
What do you say, Blue State residents? Are you as sick of these welfare queens as I am? Lets organize and kick these ignorant jerks off of our teats. Any likeminded residents who accidently live in Red States can feel free to immigrate to the Blue United States of Reality. Come to California and enjoy some wine and cannaibis. Hawaii is ours, too. Aloha.
why not just travel back in time and let's all live in the soviet union. Yeah, that worked out well for everyone there. How can you be so ignorant as to think that all the democrats in office have the best interest of this country in mind. If you can't tell Obama is steering us to back to the dark ages where the people have no rights. Hmmm...I, for one, like having freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom to elect and/or remove someone from office if they are not accurately representing the people.
It is just unbelievable how blind America is. Everyone wanting socialized medicine...Do you know what will follow socialized medicine? Yep, socialized EVERYTHING. which means the people will have no rights, no say in anything. Just dumb sheep being led to the slaughter
Please be aware that there may be mindlessly liberal "Grammar Police" currently "on patrol".
Since these social imbeciles expose themselves by being incapable of offering reasonably cogent responses to common sense conservative positions, they are only capable of reverting to "attempting to attack grammatical errors" and of course, their specialty, personal attacks.
Remember: These people "may or may not be suffering from LIBERALITIS" for which there is no known cure, beyond "maintenance therapies".
Please, on behalf of "common human decency" do not LAUGH at or MOCK these mentally disfunctional people and refrain from making "crude insulting comments"... if possible??? The people suffering from "advanced stages of LIBERALITIS are to be PITIED.
WOW Sally, just WOW. Have NOT noticed just HOW MANY posters used that same word, and some far more insulting, when addressing anyone who defends Sarah Palin, and when referring to Sarah Palin????? Nothing like stacking the deck on one side. One more time...WOW.
Have NOT noticed just HOW MANY posters used that same word, and some far more insulting, when addressing anyone who defends Sarah Palin, and when referring to Sarah Palin????? Nothing like stacking the deck on one side. One more time...WOW.
do you know that you need to report those people? That's how it wors, aggie.
I have no love for Obama, but when someone twists something as basic in American history as Paul Revere's ride, I hope she stays in Alaska and fishes. On a similar note, Michele Bachmann was in Concord, NH a few weeks ago and didn't know the difference between the event that occurred at Concord, MA and NH, 'the shot heard 'round the world' was in Massachusetts, not NH. But, in fairness, at one point, Obama thought there 57 states. Good Lord, will someone please run for President, please?
Depending on how old you are could depend on the version of history you were taught.
Government run schools teach our kids just what government wants them to believe.
With enough money you can get a professor to say anything you want. Dont forget - economics professors from harvard and yale stated that there was nothing wrong with bundled mortgage backed securities and credit default swaps in the 2000's. That ended rather well eh?
"the evening of April 18, 1775, Paul Revere was sent for by Dr. Joseph Warren and instructed to ride to Lexington, Massachusetts, to warn Samuel Adams and John Hancock that British troops were marching to arrest them."
In 1774 and the Spring of 1775 Paul Revere was employed by the Boston Committee of Correspondence and the Massachusetts Committee of Safety as an express rider to carry news, messages, and copies of resolutions as far away as New York and Philadelphia.
On the evening of April 18, 1775, Paul Revere was sent for by Dr. Joseph Warren and instructed to ride to Lexington, Massachusetts, to warn Samuel Adams and John Hancock that British troops were marching to arrest them. After being rowed across the Charles River to Charlestown by two associates, Paul Revere borrowed a horse from his friend Deacon John Larkin. While in Charlestown, he verified that the local "Sons of Liberty" committee had seen his pre-arranged signals. (Two lanterns had been hung briefly in the bell-tower of Christ Church in Boston, indicating that troops would row "by sea" across the Charles River to Cambridge, rather than marching "by land" out Boston Neck. Revere had arranged for these signals the previous weekend, as he was afraid that he might be prevented from leaving Boston).
On the way to Lexington, Revere "alarmed" the country-side, stopping at each house, and arrived in Lexington about midnight. As he approached the house where Adams and Hancock were staying, a sentry asked that he not make so much noise. "Noise!" cried Revere, "You'll have noise enough before long. The regulars are coming out!" After delivering his message, Revere was joined by a second rider, William Dawes, who had been sent on the same errand by a different route. Deciding on their own to continue on to Concord, Massachusetts, where weapons and supplies were hidden, Revere and Dawes were joined by a third rider, Dr. Samuel Prescott. Soon after, all three were arrested by a British patrol. Prescott escaped almost immediately, and Dawes soon after. Revere was held for some time and then released. Left without a horse, Revere returned to Lexington in time to witness part of the battle on the Lexington Green.
In 1774 and the Spring of 1775 Paul Revere was employed by the Boston Committee of Correspondence and the Massachusetts Committee of Safety as an express rider to carry news, messages, and copies of resolutions as far away as New York and Philadelphia.
On the evening of April 18, 1775, Paul Revere was sent for by Dr. Joseph Warren and instructed to ride to Lexington, Massachusetts, to warn Samuel Adams and John Hancock that British troops were marching to arrest them. After being rowed across the Charles River to Charlestown by two associates, Paul Revere borrowed a horse from his friend Deacon John Larkin. While in Charlestown, he verified that the local "Sons of Liberty" committee had seen his pre-arranged signals. (Two lanterns had been hung briefly in the bell-tower of Christ Church in Boston, indicating that troops would row "by sea" across the Charles River to Cambridge, rather than marching "by land" out Boston Neck. Revere had arranged for these signals the previous weekend, as he was afraid that he might be prevented from leaving Boston).
On the way to Lexington, Revere "alarmed" the country-side, stopping at each house, and arrived in Lexington about midnight. As he approached the house where Adams and Hancock were staying, a sentry asked that he not make so much noise. "Noise!" cried Revere, "You'll have noise enough before long. The regulars are coming out!" After delivering his message, Revere was joined by a second rider, William Dawes, who had been sent on the same errand by a different route. Deciding on their own to continue on to Concord, Massachusetts, where weapons and supplies were hidden, Revere and Dawes were joined by a third rider, Dr. Samuel Prescott. Soon after, all three were arrested by a British patrol. Prescott escaped almost immediately, and Dawes soon after. Revere was held for some time and then released. Left without a horse, Revere returned to Lexington in time to witness part of the battle on the Lexington Green.
Seems that Sarah was right. Now, don't you feel silly.
You're the one who should feel silly for believing such an idiotic statement by Sarah about The Second Amendment which wasn't even in existence back then.
HELLO!! The USA hadn't been formed yet!!! A cockroach probably knows more history than that "media whore."
At the time Paul Revere was riding, there was no 2nd Amendment. And I am certain that Palin knows that. The point she was making was that what is guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment was important even in the time of Paul Revere - why else would it have made it into the Bill of Rights?
From the NPR interview with Professor Robert Allison of Suffolk University:
Prof. ALLISON: Yeah. She was making a Second Amendment case. But in fact, the British were going out to Concord to seize colonists' arms, the weapons that the Massachusetts Provincial Congress was stockpiling there.
So, yeah, she is right in that. I mean, she may be pushing it too far to say this is a Second Amendment case. Of course, neither the Second Amendment nor the Constitution was in anyone's mind at the time. But the British objective was to get the arms that were stockpiled in Concord. (Emphasis added.)
If you actually read Revere's account you will see that he was arrested by a British patrol. He emphatically did not intentionally set out to warn the British that we were not to be trifled with. He was arrested, captured!
Having then been arrested and with a pistol at his head he advised the British officer interrogating him of his mission. I'll wager he was pretty scared at that point (who wouldn't be?) and told the exact truth of his mission in fear for his life and not as an act of bravado to "warn" the British.
Perhaps this is what Ms. Palin meant in her "aw shucks", down home mangled version of English but that is not what she said.
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
lets dont forget all those bells ole paul was a ringing on his covert ride . ask sarah , he was a ringing them bells , and them bells was a ringing .
Did you watch Colbert report? He demonstrated how Revere pulled it off according to dumbass Palin. He had a bell on one hand, a rifle in the other, while galloping on a horse, and he would have had to load his gun with gunpowder from the front of the barrel while the horse was running full speed oh and at same time ringing those bells and yelling to the British that the colonists were coming, the colonists are coming!!! LOL It was priceless!!!
Speaking of GWB getting into Yale on his father's coattails, why haven't we seen Obama's academic records OR any money trail to see how he managed to get into Yale. LOL, is he ashamed of his grades?????
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
Mike-420 you got your name wrong pot head. You like being Tea Bagged? I can't believe people even care about these stupid emails. "get a life" Sara may not be a political genius, but she is a real person and would do better than these Lifer politicians in office now. We need somebody with business sense in office instead of professional politicians that keep taxing us to death and taking away our rights and forcing us to buy their useless gubment programs. I say we fire all the worthless schmucks and start over. Has anyone ever met a Mike with brains??? lol
ROFL, I am not a Tea Bagger and I agree with 3rdPartyAdvocate. I am an independent (registered Democrat but going to change THAT) who was fooled by Obama's promises. Now that he has broken most of them, I will never, ever vote for him again!
I don't understand how anyone can still support this woman. She resigned from her job as governor to go serve herself and her bank account, instead of the people of Alaska who voted for her.
She's also a complete idiot. But, the whole quitting her job thing is unforgivable in my book. That alone should make people realize who Sarah Palin serves. She's only out for herself.
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
No marinmom: The STATE would have had to pay for all the expenses of hearing every case some psycho woman filed, just to harrass her. She SAVED the people's money. And all but one, minor issue, was throw out of court as a frivilous waste of time and what would have been taxpayer money. Try reading the post with an open and fair mind, not one already closed to the the truth.
I'm not talking about just emails. There was no research done, or at least reported on by the mainstream media with respect to Obama's past, his associations and political positions. The rectal probe only seems to be used for republican candidates, and especially for Palin. I'm not a fan of hers, I would just like to see a little parity.
Given the recent discovery of Democratic wrong doings, I have do disagree about the probing only being towards Republicans. I am pretty sure the D's are currently in the lead in the poor ethics department.
I'm not talking about just emails. There was no research done, or at least reported on by the mainstream media with respect to Obama's past, his associations and political positions.
C'mon - lets hear the birther rhetoric. Dont disappoint me.
Yes, a little parity would be nice but you won't find it on this board. It's one sided if you haven't noticed...Trying to get some parity here is as hard as swimming against the tide.
One of the problems with Palen is that she doesn't fit the 'mold' of the average American woman. I wonder if people 100 years ago hated "Annie Okley" because she didn't fit the mold of womanhood. Gun tote'n-horse ride'n out doorsey and good looking....about as far from the liberal idea of womenhood that one can get.
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
When anyone considers the "pathetic sexual transgressions" on both sides of the aisle; people CURRENTLY SERVING IN OFFICE... and compare their "sick behavior" of "sexually ill politicians to a reasonably descent woman like Palin, it simply underscores their ignorance.
As an Independent, I have little respect for MOST politicians from both sides, but the VITRIOL against Palin is so far over the top, the attackers come across as idiots, complete idiots.
Even if people "disagree with a person's political views", vitriolic attacks prevent discussion.
BTW... never, never even ASK about Obama's background cause that suggest you are being BIGOTED against America's 1st Semitic Arab president?
BTW... never, never even ASK about Obama's background cause that suggest you are being BIGOTED against America's 1st Semitic Arab president?
the info is out there...it's called the internet. Today you can look up anything. Your above statement speaks volumes. You are not interested in facts; you are interested in posting propaganda.
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
John
The discussion is about Palin's emails and nobody else. Please try to stay on topic.
We don't need to discredit Palin, she does that to herself day in and day out.
Many folks on the right seem to think Palin is very smart. We..she is, if you compare her to a sock puppet.
All of this will probably end up being just like Palin, boring and tedious.
The courts should not view MSNBC as a member of the media, rather, it should treat MSNBC as a tool of the democrat party, an adversary. MSNBC pretends to be a news organization; however, only the most ignorant US citizens buy in to their efforts to appear objective.
Not sure why MSNBC identifies so steadfastly with the liberal agenda other than the fact that most of its employees are gays and lesbians, who have never actually worked in real jobs. These people report nothing. They simply repeat whatever talking points the democrat party provides them.
Journalism, research, and the technical jobs at any of the networks (MSNBC, Fox, whatever your flavor is) aren't *real* jobs? Lesbians, gays? Is that a problem for you? They shouldn't have jobs? You're a dumbass, do you have a job? Or just trolling on here.
Now MSNBC employees are homosexuals because you don't agree with them? How old are you? BTW, the word gay would encompass both male and female. Aside from attacking a news source you don't like, what do you bring to the debate? What agenda are they catering to? The fact that it took longer than release the emails than she was in office? Do you even know what the allowed time is to hand over emails after a politician leaves office? I can tell you it's much shorter than the delay after delay after delay brought us. Have to make sure those emails are scrubbed clean I guess. Or perhaps that she shifted her correspondence to private Yahoo emails, which I hope are or made public as well.
Why will she only grant pre scripted and rehearsed interviews with her employer? Could it be that FOX news is biased towards the rights agenda? In your attempt to paint MSNBC as a evil left leaning news source, you left out that Sarah's employer leans so far right that it falls over every time it tries to stand up.
Tell me what she has brought to the table but attack after attack after attack. She has offered not a single solution. IF you're going to attack policy, you damn well better have your own idea of what would be better. Instead, it's nothing but smear after smear from her.
Sorry if giving her what she's giving the American people bothers you so much. Maybe if she would stop throwing stones at every ones glass house, people wouldn't throw them back.
Not sure why MSNBC identifies so steadfastly with the liberal agenda other than the fact that most of its employees are gays and lesbians, who have never actually worked in real jobs. These people report nothing. They simply repeat whatever talking points the democrat party provides them.
Mel - I am interested in knowing what constitutes a real job. Is it the tasks performed, or the type of employer, or the employee's sexual orientation, or what exactly? More importantly, who sets forth the criteria?
Did you catch the Palin interview on Fox News Sunday where she was using the teleprompter? Yet she has a zinger in which she makes fun of the President for using one. If you bring this up to one of her supporters - with the evidence - they won't refute it but rather say something like "Obama does it more than she does".
No matter which side of the Red/Blue line you stand you can see dirt on the other side. The trick is making sure your dung stinks less than the other guy's dung.
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
Did you catch the Palin interview on Fox News Sunday where she was using the teleprompter? Yet she has a zinger in which she makes fun of the President for using one.
The TPGOPers are very fond of the phrase "Do as I say, not as I do." They will preach about the sanctity of marriage while they are having sex with prostitues. They will deny you the right to the"socialist" health insurance while they benefit from the tax-payer funded insurance. They will point out that Obama uses a teleprompter by reading "Obama is using a teleprompter" on a teleprompter....
Gotta laugh how some of these "obsessive Palin haters" literally FREAK regarding ANY media blurb on Mrs. Palin?
As "The Joker asked in Batman, WHY SO SERIOUS?"
Yet, we have this complete "supposedly academic" potus... based on WHAT?
If our so-called "academic potus" TRULY was an "academic" wouldn't a person like that BE SO VERY PROUD to offer "public inspection" of his "supposedly wonderful academic achievements?" Not only have the public records of Palin's entire life, from grade school to college and politics have been exhaustively inspected by the media, and now 24 thousand Emails being added for further inspection... the American public has NEVER SEEN even 1 semester of grades during the "supposedly lengthy academic years of study" of this "temporary worker we have in the Oval Office?
How many "former classmates and/or professors" of our potus has ANYONE ever heard from... seen on a TV interview/panel... or showed up on any show from TODAY to Oprah to late night shows? But hey, what about those "Palin emails?" See, now they are "really important, huh?"
Although I cannot recall EVER SEEING A SINGLE ONE, I will concede that surely "someone must have seen or heard of one of his classmates or professors somewhere?" But hey, what about those "Palin emails?" See, now they are "really important, huh?"
Seriously... HOW SERIOUSLY WEIRD IS THAT? And it is far more weird that "no one ever even seems to ask?" But hey, what about those "Palin emails?" See, now they are "really important, huh?"
Let's get real here, just for a minute... I mean "Obama IS our president" isn't Obama the ONE we should always keep asking questions about? But hey, what about those "Palin emails?" See, now they are "really important, huh?"
Look at what has happened to these IDIOT politicians like Clinton, Spitzer, Arnold, Weiner and an endless list of moronic politicians on both sides?
Isn't it "just as reasonable and totally fair" to CHASE, STALK, HUNT, TRACK, RECORD ALL politicians from the potus on down? Of course it is?
Yet, some Americans seem obsessively distracted by a woman, who does not even hold an office? But... here is the irony...
By "simply obsessing over Palin" instead of damaging her reputation, which is the PRIMARY OBJECTIVE of the left... Palin's "Public Notoriety is MAGNIFIED" so her "speaking fees" only continue to skyrocket? The "haters" KEEP SARAH on Center stage and forever in the spotlight" as she continues to charge more and more and more? Who is "really laughing at who?"
The moral is: Be careful who you attack with hate; you may be helping THEM !
Reminds me of The Wizard of Oz movie. All the pyrotechnics going off to draw Dorothy's, et al eyes to the spectacle, and away from the man behind the curtain. "Pay not attention to the man behind the curtain."
After reading many of Gov Palin's emails, a volunteer worker stands and quotes Billy Madison -
Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Half governor-half brain. interesting, and what great accomplishments have you made in your life so far? Been governor of a state? Vice presidential candidate? Had your own cable network show? Just askin'
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
When you have had over two years to "clean up", it is highly unlikely that anything that can be used against her will be found. In fact, I predict that the right will have more fodder against the left after people read them.
She's really exceeded Andy Warhol's 15 minute prediction, and why?? The sobriquet of 'Eskimo Barbie' seems to be more appropriate as she keeps bouncing back into the public eye. I think McCain got some bad Intel on this choice.
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
This directed toNYMike: with the percentage of NY people that reelected Rangle, and are ok with Weiner your opinion has become irrelevant. Since ethics, and morals don't matter when it is a Democrat, you lose the privilege to criticize anyone. Ever take the time to consider why NY is a dying business center.
I'm no fan of Sarah Palin, but just because you people disagree with her views, she's an embarrassment to the United States. I don't think so. She is an educated woman who successfully became the governor of the biggest state in the union. It doesn't matter that she didn't go to an Ivy league school, and it doesn't matter that her state has a small population. You people demonize her because she disagrees with your politics. Everyone in the country has freedom of speech, not just the people you agree with.
What scares liberals to death is the fact that more people in the country identify themselves as conservative or leaning conservative (I didn't say republican) than the amount of people who describe themselves as liberal. The liberals are scared to death, that more people will begin to lean conservative.
The liberals are having their jollies over this I am sure, too bad the liberal media didn't take a microscope to obama and HIS background like his friends (Ayers & Dorn), that raving preacherman Jeremiah, the Acorn background, could you imagine all the dirt that we would have found out. With the problems our country is facing because obama and his adm. don't know what they are doing, this is what the left thinks is important, no wonder our country is in shambles.
It would be very interesting to see the same liberal media repeat their Palin actions as to Obama. Has ANYone EVER seen a scholastic transcript of the great half white thinker? (I use the term because I will be branded a racist anyway). I think not. Most people who have a stellar transcript would be very proud to show it to anyone requesting the transcript. I know, he doesn't HAVE to legally bare it, that isn't the issue. Just another example of Obama's (?openness?).
It would be very interesting to see the same liberal media repeat their Palin actions as to Obama.
That's like saying Fox News treats Obama the same way they treat Palin. If you are not interested in what other people have to say, stick to Fox. At least there you will hear what you want to hear.
DasVet: Great post! Since by your moniker, I am assuming you are a "VET", then THANK YOU for your service too!!!
Also, in addition to Obama being half-White, isn't it ABSOLUTELY AMAZING that "almost NO ONE EVER even MENTIONS that Obama is 43.5% SEMITIC-ARAB and a "whopping 6.5% Black?"
Here is THE KICKER: Obama is ZERO PERCENT AFRICAN-AMERICAN... yet How many times do Americans and "many members of the Black community heard of Obama being referred to as "America's 1st African-American President?"
The funniest (and saddest) part of all is that for even MENTIONING these facts from "Obama's OWN book"... just for mentioning them, that person will be criticized; called bigoted, etc.?
THAT is all part of this BIZARRO Media World we are living in?
But hey, what about those "Palin emails?" See, now they are "really important, huh?"
Thank you, Speedy. I did serve for four years long ago. I do not expect any praise for it, because I received my life's important lessons, for which I am eternally grateful, due to my service. I received a lot more than I could ever deserve. It is astounding how much energy/time and money is spent on such,an unproductive witch hunt. The libs are very, very upset that there is, basicly, just boring interoffice communications. Sarah is just too feminine/pretty to suit the femi-nazi crazies. Their ugliness creates jealousy and that is a bummer.
OH! alsophia theophilos.....You've got that just a tad mixed up. It is the MEDIA and the witchhunting liberals who have embarrassed themselves and America.
brains? How many times did Trump file for bankrupcy and paid his creditors pennies on a dollar? Would Trump even have anything if he did not inherit it?Beauty is even relevant?
How many millions do you have? Where's YOUR empire? I can't stand Trump, but whatever he inherited was in the past, what he has now HE built on his own ingenuity and business savvy. Beauty shouldn't be relevant, so why are so many, women especially, hating her because she is extremely attractive? Envy, that's why.
This has what to do about Sarah Palin? When those two politicans leave office, you can request their emails. I bet it wont take over two years to get them either.
It has to do with emails I think...that is what this topic is about. If we are talking about public figures and their emails... theirs would be much more interesting. If your problem is I am not bashing Sarah Palin sorry... politics are so corrupt and both sides fit the shoe.
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
A big whoopee, now that the e-mails are out in public. Daily operations of the minutia of running a state government. Not the great novel, the libs will try to concoct.
NY Mike....Those e-mails were not in the possession of Sarah Palin. She was not holding them up, nor altering them in any way. They have been and were and are in the possession and the property of the State of Alaska. It behooved the State to go through them to strike anything not meant to be made public concerning individuals and involving the workings of the State and Governor, for security reasons, etc. Only ones not released were of a private nature, which as we all know, EVERYONE has messages of personal and private matters that we send and receive on our work e-mail. No doubt, that includes you. Not that it's scandalous, just private. Anything scandalous that could have been in Palin's e-male, BELIEVE ME, it would have been all over the papers. Ya know, like Weiner.
And, after all the work, waiting, money spent, beating a path to Juneau, hiring people to dissect each page.....no scandal, no bombshell, nothing to make their "BIG Story" was found. Too bad...so sad. I wonder just how foolish MSN feels about now?
After Sarah's "base" has read her emails, it will not change their minds about her.
Water rises to it's on level. It is safe to say that the "abysmal ignorant" of Sarah's fans need to stay afloat together.
Fortunately, out of 350 million Americans, the majority of us do not want to swim in their pool. They are each others life preserves.
We should all use this as teaching instrument for, our children and grandchildren about, the importance of an Education a real one, not a Fake one.
Palin and her followers are the worst America has to offer. We need their example to become the Best.
So, you already know what the content of the emails include? You must be an insider. Oh, and you speak for the majority??? Pretty presumptuous. What would that teaching instrument be? What is the education level of Lady GaGa? Maybe we ought to stop putting such trash like that on a pedestal as well and teach them not to act like her. I'd say Lady GaGa's followers are the worst America has to offer -- not Sarah Palin's.
will this change ant minds .. of course not .. her supporters will love her ...her detractors will dislike her ... nothing will change as far as her support goes ... What needs to be investigated is ... why the Alaska Governors office took over 2 years to make this information public ... what was the Alaska government trying to hide from the public
The emails isn't really what these blood lusting slimebags want. Come on gang, you sickos love the Weiner, you want a peek into Sarah Palins panty drawer admit it. Sure you do. Admit it.
Wow, cathee, calling Palin and her "fans"ignorant......how original, it's never been done before. Maybe it'll catch on with the rest of the superior minds on the left, and maybe...just maybe...with the media. But guess what; we of the"worst America has to offer" get a huge laugh at how berserk you and the rest of the libs get at the mere mention of her name.
Oh by the way, why don't you regale the rest of us with your "real" education credentials; I'll bet they're really impressive.....or maybe not - you have two capitalization errors in your "educated" comment.
Huh?? If you are comparing GaGa to Palin you have lost your own argument.
Maybe someone will put them in a book and maybe she will win the Nobel Peace Prize because of it.
Big problem I see... Your'e assuming her base can read.
Nail on the head ysidero
...and assuming her base can get an internet connection at their trailer court....
Sure we can read, ysidero, but apparently you can't write a complete sentence.
See we dont go beserk over her. We just love the comedic stupidity that she espouses every time she opens her mouth. Cites her geographical proximity to Russia as foreign policy experience, has no idea Africa is a continent not a country, is completely historically ignorant... and proud of it.
Those are things you'd expect to catch in an episode of South Park - not in a public figure who was a VP candidate and now will likely run for president.
Not going crazy over her - not obsessed with her - don't fear her - just utterly and completely entertained by her stupidity and the people who support her.
This is internet chat, in case you haven't noticed. People often write in a casual manner, assuming readers don't expect the Queen's English. Sorry if I offended you.
You Betcha! The Idolatry of an Idiot
Ben-636050 - Sarah Palin hasnt had a real original idea of her own. Everything comes from someone else and she attaches herself to it like a band wagon. She became a tea-bagger after she found out how popular it was with the Republicans. Same with the berthers after Donald Trump made a big deal about it, she jumped on as well. Sarah has to be about the worst American Republican in politics today. Not sure where you came up with Lady GaGa, but hey, to each his own. As far as the emails, I am sure she had anything incriminating removed, thats why it took so long for msnbc to get ahold of them.
Sarah's "base" can read?
How laughable is spider, the grammar queen?
Is this an attempt to "refudiate" the ignorance that surrounds the mama grizzly?
What we have here is a literal feeding frenzy of salavating people just hoping that they find something, any miniscule thing to twist into scandal, and I'm sure they will do just that, and then coin some new slur that all will use incessantly, parrotting one another, yet think it's oh, so clever and original.
Mike: Tina Fey said the Russia thing. She (or the writers) took something Sarah said while leading a tour and instructing some visitors on the geographic location of AK and then twisted it to make a joke. That's what commedians do, ya know? Do you get all your information from comedy sketches?
I wonder why none of you, in your quest to know all things, haven't insisted on seeing Obama's college records, and so many other records of his past endeavors and connections that are under lock and key.
I have no doubt that these people hired by the media to dissect her every word will read all sorts of dastardly things into her e-mails without any idea of the purpose of the message, just takeing it one word at a time and "creating" her intention. The posts on here that attack Palin and her defenders on their mental capacity and educational levels is nothing less than childish.
I hope you enjoy your dumpster diving and witch hunt...pathetic. Palin isn't afraid to have this released. Why is Obama so secretive and afraid to open his records? I can only assume since none of his followers question this, it's because they just prefer hold onto the facade.
@Barry -- The Lady GaGa analogy was just to show that the followers of her are the worst Americans rather than those who follow Palin. There area number of other examples as well. But for comparison sake, I chose trash who has become an icon and a bad example for our children to follow.
What you say may be true -- but so what? As to American Democrats in politics that has to be about the worst let's list Weiner, Edwards, Rangel, Grayson, etc. and then we can start a whole list from the other side. It's an irrelevant argument. Both parties have their bane.
Really?
Couric: You've cited Alaska's proximity to Russia as part of your foreign policy experience. What did you mean by that?
Sarah Palin: That Alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, Russia, and, on our other side, the land-boundary that we have with Canada. It's funny that a comment like that was kinda made to … I don't know, you know … reporters.
Couric: Mocked?
Palin: Yeah, mocked, I guess that's the word, yeah.
Couric: Well, explain to me why that enhances your foreign-policy credentials.
Palin: Well, it certainly does, because our, our next-door neighbors are foreign countries, there in the state that I am the executive of. And there…
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/25/eveningnews/main4479062.shtml/main4479062.shtml#ixzz1OsJ65dV2
Learn to read.
EDIT: Tina Fey did the whole "I can see Russia from my house" thing but it was based on the above interview.
Great rebuttal Mike. It's amazing how some people have tunnel vision when it comes to Palin. They forget that her idiotic rants don't come from comedy sketches but straight from the source.
I dare say your last sentence also applies to Palin. And if you disagree - what is it about her that provides a positive role model? Is it because she's a quitter? A failed VP candidate? A geographical and historical neophyte? how about a hypocrite? Or maybe her constant firearm references?
Although it could be argued that it did come from the comedy sketch that is Sarah Palin. LOL!
Anyone remember Dick Chaney and his gmail account? If you aren't doing anything wrong, Sara, what do you have to hide?
True LOL. Her idiocy is a fountain of laughs for me and any intelligent person. It's the mindless sheep that ooooh and aaaaaah in awe at everything she says and does.
@Mike -- Your questions have no relevance. People quit jobs all the time to move on to other endeavors. Does that make them bad role models? Many a good person -- like Geraldine Ferraro -- have been "failed" VP candidates. Does that make then a bad role model? I have known some of the best educated people to ask me when I tell them I am from West Virginia to ask me if I am close to the beach? Does that make them a bad role model? I know someone who said there were 57(58?) states during the campaign. Does that make him a bad role model? In Alaska, guns is a way of life so why wouldn't one talk about their way of life.
No, Palin is not trash. She may not be the sharpest tack in the box but neither is Weiner or Vitter or Rangel or Lee or Foley or B.Clinton for the mistakes they made.
If you don't like her, why do you waste your time reading her stories and making immature comments? This forum is not hardly -- or even remotely close -- to the windows of the world.
Well Mike, apparently you are not privvy to the LINE Tina Fey said, that has been assigned to Sarah Palin and SO oft quoted/repeated as coming straight from her..."I can see Russia from my house." Guess I should have spelled that out for you. My point being: Palin never said that! Get it? The tunnel visioned people insist on using it over and over and over.
Have you ever been a Governor? Mayor? Candidate for ANYTHING?
Data Link: Palin isn't hiding anything! Do you not understand that her e-mails, over 24,000 of them are being made public? Have you asked Obama that question?
You are confusing overall stupidity with political corruption or sexual misconduct - of which both sides are guilty. Show me a democratic candidate that has presented the overall stupidity that Palin has. One that cites her geographical location to Russia as her foreign policy experience - one that thinks Africa is a country - one that calls then pres candidate Obama a socialist while simultaneously collecting oil and gas money and redistributing it to the entire state of Alaska - or one who is blantantly ignorant of history.
Because its funny? Why do you waste your time defending her? Because its not?
Christ... can you read? She did cite her proximity to Russia as being foreign policy experience in the Couric interview - go look up the transcripts I posted. I never said she said she could see Russia from her house - that was indeed Fey.
I said exactly "Cites her geographical proximity to Russia as foreign policy experience". Which is exactly what she did. She is that ridiculous.
Ben-636050
yes it does and you cannot compare an average job, or even one of a CEO to a Governor. Also, the reason for quiting is very important. Palin quit because she could not deal with all the legal issues she was going through (financially and emotionally).
So when a jobs gets tough, you quit? Yes, that makes you a loser especially if you want to be responsible for 300,000 million lives - not to mention the rest of the world.
So, I am curious as to why there is no request for emails that Barack Obama sent? I am curious as to why there is no request to release emails from Joe Biden or Nancy Pelosi or Hillary Clinton or Debbie Wasserman Schultz or Michelle Obama or Harry Reid?
What is the obsession with this woman? The amount of people here calling her an idiot, seems pretty idiotic to me. Is it because she doesn't talk like a harvard professor? Is it because you have all been told by the media how dumb she is? I don't understand the left's fascination with this woman and their constant attacks on her.
I don't think she is ready to be president yet and she probably knows that, but you have to appreciate her motivation and drive. I know the other argument is that she is only interested in herself and making money, but hey, that is America! Everyone wants to live a better life and make money and she has found a way to do that. She is not stealing money. She is not ripping off the taxpayer (You will have to talk to your elected officials to find that).
The fact that she doesn't get the women to stand up for her is ridiculous though. This is a woman who is self-made and has put herself on top. A small-town girl with big aspirations and has succeeded at almost every level. This should warrant praise not ridicule.
DKWog
Again, DKdog, those emial were requested partly BECAUSE Palin cc'ed her husband when e-mailing the government business. Since he was never elected as a public offical, he had as much right to get them as you and I do.
Ben give it up, you've lost the argument.
bayllie "DKWog So, I am curious as to why there is no request for emails that Barack Obama sent? ...Again, DKdog, those emial were requested partly BECAUSE Palin cc'ed her husband when e-mailing the government business. Since he was never elected as a public offical, he had as much right to get them as you and I do."
So what's wrong with making a similar request for the emails of Obama, Reid, etc. I'm sure that many of them also cc'd unelected people. And most of the released documents probably did not cc Palin's husband.
I too wonder why a similar request was not made by the media for the emails of Democrats.
I'll admit it, I'd take a poke at that. She's so stupid I bet the sex would be great!
I would like to see Obama's college transcripts! Why are they being hidden from the public?
@ben
While I don't like Lady Gaga's music, it is hard to argue that what she is doing isn't original and artistic. Also, her followers tend to be the gay community. Are you saying the gay community are the worst people in America?
Comment # 1 restored for clarity.
@getthefacts
No one has a right to see college transcripts without good reason and permission from the student. What is your point? George Bush's transcripts were leaked which was probably illegal.
I don't need to see his transcripts in order to find the one A- or B+ that prevented him from getting Summa Cum Laude. Magna Cum Laude says everything you need to know about his performace at Harvard. It basically shows he recieved a nearly perfect gpa in one of the most prestigious law programs in the world.
The degree of uncivil, knee-jerk vitriol Ms. Palin generates directly corresponds to her detractors' chicken-little fear of her. I'm not a Palin fan either, but the left's zeal to utterly destroy her only proves an immense if perverse regard.
Proof once again that liberals are pathetic
The fake now occupying the White House allegedly has a "real" education about which you speak and his inexperience, incompetence and lack of common sense have turned a bad set of economic and foreign conditions that existed when he took office into quite dire times for our country and its citizens. A whole lot of good that "real" education has been for him and Americans.
Folks asking about why other representatives haven't been asked for their email records: I'm assuming the requests for Palin's records came about as a result of the investigation she was under a few years back:
(dot) cnn (dot) com/2008-10-09/politics/palin.investigation_1_monegan-todd-palin-stephen-branchflower?_s=PM:POLITICS
FOIA, that kind of thing.
I suck at linking, apparently. Just Google Sarah Palin Investigation as needed.
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resignation_of_Sarah_Palin
I just don't get the Sarah Palin fixation. Most of those commenting profess to basically hating her, yet you all flock to anything with her name on it. So many people's time and money being spent to scrape up whatever dirt can be found. I totally understand not liking her, but this "out to destroy" thing is very disturbing. Reminds me of sharks circling for the kill.
This is getting scary. I don't know why any sane person would want to run for public office.
I love all the losers that come out and defend Sarah, they make me laugh.
Hey, remember last week when Sarah messed up US History because of the "gotcha" questions the "lamestream media" threw at her? That's right, it is not Sarah's fault . . . the liberal media asked her a "gotcha" question, because they were trying to "get her" saying something stupid.
Damn that liberal media.
By the way, do you know what that "gotcha" question was? Do you know what confusing question they asked Sarah, in an attempt to "get" her?
"Sarah, what have you learned and what will you take away from this visit?"
That's right, folks. The "gotcha" question that Sarah complained about was: "What have you learned?" Let me reiterate this . . . Sarah Palin considers the questions "What have you learned?" to be a "gotcha" question from the evil left-wing media.
THIS is the person you nut-jobs support? Someone who considers "What have you learned?" to be a "gotcha" question from the left-wing media? Really? REALLY?
I guess that can be a tough question for a group of people that never passed the 2nd grade. No, actually . . . even a 2nd grader would be able to answer that question.
Like I said in another thread:
Democrats want Palin to be the Republican nominee for the Presidential election.
'nuff said.
Gee - I can see why this was collapsed. What a waste!
There is a saying be careful what you wish for - you just might get it. From what I'm hearing - I'm thinking the release is going to rocket this lady to the Presidency instead of destroying her. What are these extremist negative people going to do?
There is one really, really wrong thing about this release . . . . email addresses were not redacted. This may be a violation of private citizens privacy.
I am not a follower or big fan of Palin, but why is it that the left is so threatened by her that they have the liberal press doing nothing but hiring in people to find that one piece of juicy information. Where is this scrutiny towards our very own President and his administration. They screw up and ABC, CBS, NBC, and just about every news organization sweeps it under the rug. What happened to unbiased and fair reporting? And is it the news organization's place to put forward their agenda or to let us get facts and decide ourselves. In the end all of them (and yes for you that are going to yell), this includes Fox news, they have all become nothing but talking heads looking for dirty laundry.
It's sad, kind of reminds me of Nero playing his harp while Rome burned. This country is falling to its knees because of the burden of debt and the public demand for entitlements and all they can do is look at Palin and see what they can dig up on her. Does anyone anymore see something wrong with this picture?
You know these emails have been requested for almost a year and were not being provided. I guarantee that these have all been sifted through and are anything but candid.
What "gotcha" question are you talking about? The one that the Paul Revere society said "well she got lucky on that one". How about when you libs jumped on her for saying gonna party like its 1773 and a tea party? Well guess what the tea party was in 1773. Maybe libs need to read up on history alittle bit.Doesnt matter in 250lbs of emails she will show less than Wiener did in one pic msg. How long did it take Obama to provide a birth certificate?
What is the left so afraid of? Have they made up their minds already? Why will you not read her emails? Its been made such a big deal and now, HERE THEY ARE! Read them, you bitched about getting them. Its even been said that EVERYONE should read them. If the left doesnt want to read them then all it goes to show is that the left wants to close its eyes and will not open their minds. You are incapable of seeing what is out there, you have blinders on.
I am not a fan of her one way or the other but if shes releasing her emails, why shouldnt they be read?
Randi, are you afraid to read them? How can you GUARANTEE they have been sifted through? Did you do the sifting? Dont think ya did. Stop making grandiose statements when you have no connection to them whatsoever. If you had 28,000 pieces of email I am sure that it would take you more than a year to put them all together too.
so when is msnbc going to post all of obamas e mails from his senate days?
Lady Gaga does circles around Palin in the intellect dept. Not to mention she has a great voice, writes her own songs and plays the piano very well. But, the main thing is she doesn't go out of her way to alienate people but rather brings them together. I am not gay but I like her views, artistic skills and overall wackiness. Palin barely made it through community college. Gaga graduated from NYU. If you read Palin's emails you can see she is right up there with my 13 year old daughter. Palin not Trump is really god's gift to comedy.
Joe
When are you going to submit a FOIA request, so you can the e-mails?
I'm always amazed by the sheer unbridled hypocrisy of those on the left who take great joy in mocking the rantings of Sarah Palin, but seem all too oblivious to the utterances of Joe Biden, and he IS our current VP. Sarah Palin enjoyed +80% approval in her 1st term as governor of Alaska. Perhaps she is a better leader than orator, in direct opposition to Obama, who is a far, far better orator than leader. Sarah is playing the left for the fools they are, and they don't even know it. She has no intention of running, but the left will be the last to figure that out, all the while expending time and energy on a decoy, SUCKERS!
Tbenton...no one is afraid of Palin. She's front page comedy and someone who you would probably see on Jerry Springer. That's why the press is all over it. People want to know more about "The Dummy Demographic" because it is hard to believe that people can be that ignorant in this day and age.
hardtostabilize....remember that's Alaska not the majority of US. Sarah is playing herself and everytime she opens her mouth she loses more credibilty and gains more comedy. Hint..... she's the sucker.
Let me determine what is good reading and what is not. Have you read the e-mails yet, or are you just another welfare queen protecting your "rights"? When are the Clintons, The Obamas, or any democrats going to do the same? Would really love to know the truth about whitewater.
But Lady Gaga is an entertainer, and Sarah Palin is a uh nevermind.
Cathee the great,
I just wanted to point out that you wanting to emphasize education contradicts your atrocious writing skills. Your initial comment was almost unreadable. Please go back to school.
Such hostility here!!! I am not a big Palin fan but seriously some of you people need to chill out. The extremism is burning intense with some of the liberals I see in this thread. How could someone be so hateful towards another human being? Oh wait, someone will try to make a "joke" about Palin not being human in some ridiculous way.
Grow up ladies and 'gents. Time to start acting like adults and not mindless political zombies for the right/left. Time to think for yourselves instead of listening to only the media. I mean really.
That's funny, I almost laughed when I read this. It's because she is not hiding anything why half of the content is deleted as privileged or private?
You are absolutely right that the right-wing would NEVER EVER . . . EVER . . . waste money by hiring people to look for a juicy piece of information. They would NEVER hire people to investigate a retarded conspiracy theory about a birth certificate.
Oh wait . . .
Bashing Palin, at the behest of the liberal media. And all the little followers chime in like the good little pavlovian puppies they are. Bark, little puppies, ignore the really big dogs that are in the room looking to eat you alive. Igonore the debt, the economy, the falling Stock Market, the lousy jobs market, that is what the big dogs want. While you're barking at Palin, guess what else is being taken away from you.
Mhmmmm....and Obama's long form birth certificate took 2 and a half years to produce? His college transcripts...still missing.....emails from Obama while he was a senator?? Not available.
Oh, but he's the most transparent president ever!
I'm not a big Palin fan, but she's more transparent than the clown in the white house that ran on that promise.
If she's not afraid to have this released...
Why did it take over 900 days to be released?
Why was so much public business conducted in a manner that could only have been chosen as a means to circumvent the state's public records laws?
Obama has destoyed this countys economy,and now the dow back below 12,000 and the limited mental capacity of the demcrats thinks that looking at private e-mails is the thing to do. No wonder wiener is there hero.
Sarah is going to make a great president, way over qualified compared to obama.
I don't think anyone wants anything potentially personal released. I've already heard some examples of personal notes like someone having problems and Palin putting in the reply that she would pray for them.
The big issue is the volumes to be reviewed by lawyers to insure non-government sensitive stuff wasn't relieased without redaction. I've heard a complete released set is something like $5 Million? That's nuts - just to try to find something big to discredit her.
I say have fun looking for that needle in the haystack.
No Bomb-shells yet, don't hold your breath too long... smile :-)
cathee the great said, "It is safe to say that the "abysmal ignorant" of Sarah's fans need to stay afloat together. Fortunately, out of 350 million Americans, the majority of us do not want to swim in their pool."
Yeah, maybe, but what is strange is those people you label as "abysmal ignorant" know the actual population of the country (you're over 40 million off, a signficant number).
But the REALLY scarey part of that fact is, even if those ignorant people DON'T know the population, they DO know how to use Google & do extremely simple research before putting something in print. You've just shown you have no idea how to do that.
People who CAN'T grasp the use of modern technology are NOT the type people a 21st-centruy country needs within it's borders. So I'll stick with Palins people. I know they can read ...... and count.
The line from the article where Palin's lawyer made zero recommendations for redaction says it all - there is NOTHING.
Now - how long til the haters make a mountain out of a grain of sand in an ant hill?
The liberal media is showing thier complete fear of Sarah,they know that she is a major threat and if she runs will beat obama by a landslide.
obama is a failure, Sarah is a winner. Even the libs know it but won't admit it.
@dave
How does it feel to believe that half the country are immoral idiots out to destroy this country? I'm a libertarian and think it is absolutely moronic for either side to make a blanket claim that the other party is stupid and backward. As a chemist, I work with many democrats and they are great people. Get over yourself. Obama had about as much to do with the state of the economy as you did. The current state of things was a long time coming and will not change much in the next few administrations regardless of who is in office...
It would seem, judging by the comments on this thread, that liberals, given the recent disasterous record of liberal policies, turning a recession into a depression, have nothing left but to fall back on good ol' tried-n-true Palin-bashing. Besides, no one's buying the blame-it-all-on-Bush line anymore...
If Palin continues to alienate half the country, she will not win by a landslide. You didn't see McCain or Obama sit there and call half the voting public immoral c@cksuckers did you? This is essentially what Mrs. palin does nearly every time she speaks. This is no way to run for an office that represents the entire country.
@Rob
It was stupid to blame Bush just like it is stupid to blame it all on Obama. The economic problems have nothing to do with who is in office but rather the result of 30 years of outsourcing our middle class jobs. If you don't have people making decent money, consuming and supporting a tax base, you get our current economic situation. Trickle down only works when money isn't shipped over to Chinese workers. Now we have a situation where our factories and consumers are pumping money overseas instead of keeping the profits and jobs at home. It will take extreme measures to fix this problem. Outsourced labor must become less profitable which would take either a middle class boom in China or extreme regulation on outsourcing. Either way, it will be a very hard time for all Americans.
OMG Mike..Do YOU not COMPREHEND that I was referring to that ONE variation of "I can see Russia from my house...window...porch"? I was NOT talking about her Couric interview. I was talking about the SENTENCE that is constantly used by the lefties, which is something she NEVER said. Fey said it. NOW do you get it? As far as what she said to Couric. Take a step back and ThINK. She was being FACITIOUS! If Couric and the rest of you weren't trying to nail her, Couric, you and others might have caught the facitious reply. But always poised to pounce you miss the details.
What foreign relations experience did Obama have anyway? For that matter what experience did he have governing? Running a business?
stick to being a chemist Eric, hopefully you see that picture a little better.
Eric: "The economic problems have nothing to do with who is in office but rather the result of 30 years of outsourcing our middle class jobs."
And creating a nanny state a la Greece is going to fix that? The outsourcing of middle class jobs started more than 30 years ago, when the rest of the world caught up (and surpassed) U.S. productivity as they recovered from their post-WW2 ruins. The U.S. had it good in the '50s and '60s because we had virtually no international competition. However, that temporary post-war benefit simply wasn't life in the real world. It was a paradigm we're likely to never see again. We can wax nostalgic about it all we want, and unfortunately an entire generation grew up thinking that way of life was normal. That generation was well taken care of, and is now entering retirement still expecting to be taken care of, paid for with the hard-earned tax dollars of Gen X and Gen Y'ers like me. That's the unsustainable dynamic that is slowly but surely bringing this once great country to its knees!
Paul Revere Society stated she was wrong because she was wrong, they didn't say "got us today!" as if they had an in for palin. Not all intelligent people have it out for her, they simply ask her for her views and expect something resembling correct statements. Seeing as she is setting out to lead us all and make important decisions as a representative I think its not too much to ask...
Composer - having witnessed a job my company got sued over, That took hundreds of hours for the stuff to be printed and gone over - with only 10 - 15 people at the office involved.
A governors office - even in a small state is a much larger task.
I am sure that anyone here who really cares will read them all.
First sentence of the seeded MSNBC article:
"If your idea of an engrossing tour through American history is reading 24,199 pages of emails from Sarah Palin's first two years as governor of Alaska..."
This sums-up the mentality of the progressive and liberal constituents of this Nation (notice I didn't say democrat or republican/independent). Wanting to pour-over the e-mails of Palin: how ridiculous!
I bet y'all were enthralled with the photo's of Weiner too!
So being the governor of a state surrounded by foreign countries that you are required to negotiate with on a regular basis is not a plus in the foreign diplomacy column? I guess Obama's experience dealing with Chicago politicians just blew that away.
I really would like to see all of Obama's correspondence published in the same manner by MSNBC just to show that they are a responsible news agency and not a propaganda machine. Think it's going to happen?
I'm beginning to think all of these attacks on Palin are sexist bigotry at it's finest.
I think the Progressive Dems have made a huge strategic error,now that the work of the "REAL" Sarah Palin, an intelligent, engaged, competent, Chief Executive Officer,(who will still have more executive experience than Obama when this sorry four year experiment in radical socialism is over),can be seen, and We can actually compare her's to Our present, "WTF", Administration,and do it on a daily basis, day, after day, after day, as her record is there for all to see,and can be gone over with a fine toothed comb, the lefts massive ridicule and propaganda campaign that has been directed against her will show itself to be just that,a silly, baseless, left wing , progressive, propaganda campaign,and when people see this, they will start to ask other questions, such as, Who was behind this attempted character assassination against Sarah Palin and why? Then , our noble heroes in the media, in order to save their own skins and maintain some semblance of credibility,(and maybe with the hopes of winning a Pulitzer Prize in the process), will have to throw somebody under the bus, and a good candidate,(especially if it looks like they are going to lose big time anyway), will be an investigation of this administration, because there are so many unknowns ,Their "Faceman" ,and how he got selected and guided through the ranks of the Chicago political machine,so rapidly,with zero executive experience,how did that happen? and with such a noticeable lack of media curiosity and oversight? and who were the powers behind it? and then this administration's ties to communists, socialists,home grown radicals, and old nazi sympathizers could be scrutinized, along with other things like, where did all that unaccounted for foreign money that flooded into Obama's campaign in the last election actually come from? ,or How did one man have so many ties to so many radicals and extremist that he then proceeded to put into government positions ,(or made up positions for them),as unaccountable czars or ,newly created Agency Heads? ,and just what exactly did the Progressives do with that trillion dollars they voted for themselves that dark and rainy night when they first seized power?, That is a lot of money!,Think about it! Where did it go?( and the obvious next question would then again be , where was the press when all this happened?, which will, of course never be asked or answered by the main stream, "journalist",, because that would lead right back to the propagandists, character assassins,and well financed lap dogs in their ranks, and then to those who were behind them, a place where many in the mainstream media will desperately try to keep anyone from going), so let's keep reading, comparing facts to fiction,disassembling the lies and propaganda,and then informing each other what we find, so that We can then ask the questions that WE must ask,in order to find the answers WE MUST KNOW.Thanks Dems.
Funny thing as well. I was watching A MESS NBC this AM, to see them try to spin this...one of the lamer headlines is that a pre vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin supported Obama.
Then they give the excerpt from an email that says
"He gave a great speech this morning, mentioned Alaska"
"we need to take advantage of this an say he's right on"
I guess they were trying to portray she supported Obama before she was a VEEP candidate.
What they neglected to show was the rest of the email, came in between the 2 comments and said He STOLE her energy rebate idea and he stole Alaska gasoline talking points
And later in the same email she says GLAD HE FLIP FLOPPED ON OCS
So the attacks on this woman continue, they look to have her emails released, the fair and balanced Wash Toast and the NY SLimes, enlist kool aid drinking sheeple to try and get her, and when they CANT FIND ANYTHING except that she was an involved governor who took on both repubs and dems in the interest of the middle class, out of 24,000 pages A MESS NBC has the audacity to not even show the entire contect of an email, but rather pull out 2 lines to make it appear as if Plain suypported Obama.
Because they know all the sheeple will just parrott that, much like they do the Fox Lies line.....MSNBC LIED. And by the way, I saw the entire context of the email on Fox.
You can see it here.....excerpted from Mother Jones (the liberal ragsite), unless the doofus David Corn takes it doen before people see what she really said.
http://www.carbonated.tv/news/first-of-sarah-palin-emails-palin-mad-that-obama-stole-her-ideas
So the latets lets get Plain scoreboard
Palin 1
Idiots 0
Wonder how much money was spent by the morons flying droves of people to Alaska, how much time was wasted by Alaskan government officials pulling these together, how much paper was wasted (I thought the left was environmentally friendly---but they suspend that for trying to get Palin.....IDIOTS), how much time Obamabots wasted poring through emails to find she didnt want liquor in the govs mansion or that there was some CRITICAL news about a tanning bed.....can this get any more moronic?
When do we get to see Obamas emails form when he was a senator and in the Illinois senate.
It is getting hard to laugh at the left on the palin derangement syndrome they have, because they are so sad.
All this effort and no bombshells.....I'm laughing.
Steve. It isnt over. If they cant find anything of note....they will turn "I will not be going home for lunch" into something criminal and suspicious....Dont forget, this is the media...
Ah Sarah. She wanders the country attending fundraisers/book signings, giving speeches, etc. and yes, she's probably a worry for the GOP but she drives the left wingers positively crazy.
My assessment is that she's nowhere as dumb as the left makes her out to be and actually, she's demonstrated a shrewdness and business acumen beyond the ability and understanding of many. Put simply, she's making a lot of money.
No, she won't run for president. I think she's currently having far too much fun agitating the radical left and watching their heads explode every time they hear mentioned in the news.
So now, these left wingers will expend enormous amounts of time pouring over thousands of emails. To what end? Don't they realize they're being played for fools?
I really can't understand why so many are trying to defend Mrs. Palin on these strings. Remember, you're currently on MS-DNC, an unpaid arm on the Democratic National Committee. There is no logic you can use, no examples you can cite, no stories you can tell that will change a single mind that reads or comments on these strings, and that is from either side.
What you must realize is that the left can be as condescending, bigoted, anti-female as it wants and can get away with it. The media will never call them on it. Yet, let one member of the right put a toe over the line, and it all breaks loose. They can say things about Mrs. Palin, her husband and her children with the impunity that they will never, not ever, be called to task for it. I say embrace it. Let them rant. It only shows them to be the racists and fools that they are. Make off putting comments that will set them into a tizzy. It's fun. Heck, make stuff up about them, as they do to others, and watch them go crazy. It's liberating and will relieve stress. Be a carrier and give them the heart attacks.
J.A., you may be right.
Try to keep up. These emails were requested by Mother Jones Magazine at the time Palin was chosen to be McCain's VP running mate. They wanted to write an article about her and at the time very little was known. It has taken this long for Alaska to comply with the request.
I think it does Sarah a favor. Most of them are everyday business of running a governor's office. However, many were blacked out or not included at the request of Alaska attorneys for whatever reason. Who knows what was in them. Could have been more mundane business but we'll never know.
I think this sets an excellent precedent. Let's look at all of Mr. Bush's emails, and while we're at it, let's see Mr. Obama's too. Hell, let's make a list; Pelosi, Reid, Gingrich, and let's throw in the Federal Reserve's email too. Let's see what they all have been up to.
This is a great day.
Mike-416 Yes, great rebuttal. Except here is the ENTIRE cconversation. It was Charlie Gibson who initially brought up the porximity of Russia, it was Palin who gave an astute answer and it was Fey who said I can see Russis from my porch and it was the left who ran with that.
Want to hear a really stupid gaffe, that was actually said, that actually impacts us???
I will cut the deficit by half during my first term.
or this one...if we approve the stimulus, unemployment wont go above 8%.
Nor those were REALLY said, and those turned out to be really ILL INFORMED.
But keep pretending Palin said anything like I can see Russia from my porch, as her in depth answer to a national security question.
GIBSON: Let me ask you about some specific national security situations.
PALIN: Sure.
GIBSON: Let’s start, because we are near Russia, let’s start with Russia and Georgia.
The administration has said we’ve got to maintain the territorial integrity of Georgia. Do you believe the United States should try to restore Georgian sovereignty over South Ossetia and Abkhazia?
PALIN: First off, we’re going to continue good relations with Saakashvili there. I was able to speak with him the other day and giving him my commitment, as John McCain’s running mate, that we will be committed to Georgia. And we’ve got to keep an eye on Russia. For Russia to have exerted such pressure in terms of invading a smaller democratic country, unprovoked, is unacceptable and we have to keep…
GIBSON: You believe unprovoked.
PALIN: I do believe unprovoked and we have got to keep our eyes on Russia, under the leadership there. I think it was unfortunate. That manifestation that we saw with that invasion of Georgia shows us some steps backwards that Russia has recently taken away from the race toward a more democratic nation with democratic ideals. That’s why we have to keep an eye on Russia.
And, Charlie, you’re in Alaska. We have that very narrow maritime border between the United States, and the 49th state, Alaska, and Russia. They are our next door neighbors.We need to have a good relationship with them. They’re very, very important to us and they are our next door neighbor.
GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
PALIN: They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.
GIBSON: What insight does that give you into what they’re doing in Georgia?
PALIN: Well, I’m giving you that perspective of how small our world is and how important it is that we work with our allies to keep good relation with all of these countries, especially Russia. We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it’s in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/09/13/abc-news-edited-out-key-parts-sarah-palin-interview#ixzz1P52J3gNu
Skye-768303
Try to keep up.
Pay close attention--- The reason it took 3 years was due to the sheer volume of the email, not any one blocking the release.
From this article.....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/10/sarah-palin-emails-tanning-troopergate
is this excerpt IN QUOTATIONS...from the admin director to the current Alaskan governor :
Palin's critics say she and her allies had stalled a freedom of information request for the emails made in September 2008. But Linda Perez, administrative director to the present Alaska governor and Palin ally, Sean Parnell, denied there had been any obstruction. "It was the sheer volume," she said. "Nothing else."
matter.of.fact......You betcha? Is that the best you can do? It is pretty lame to use ones' regional accents and/or expressions, as something to be criticized. Let's see: We have the Kennedy's with their Boston accent and expressions; Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, LBJ, Al Gore...all with southern draaawls and/or twangs. So, if you and others think throwing out a "You betcha" here and there is clever, you only sound clueless and desperate. YOU BETCHA!
I didn't say anyone was blocking the initial release. I said at the time of the release many of the emails had blackouts or were not included at all at the request of Alaska attorneys. If they had been released via computer it would have saved time and trees.
Why are we just picking on the little girl? Why don't we look at everyone else's email also? Why am I the only one that sees a double standard?
Ben, you are not the only one that sees a double standard....but the libs have the media on their side and they will only tell the public a quarter of the truth...the rest is propaganda....They have no interest in Obamas emails.
It was suggested that I should file a freedom of information act request to see Mr. Obama's emails. Has anyone else already done this? Are they now on the no fly list? I'd like to know before my next prostate exam.
Dont hold your breath...it is not going to happen....
This thread is really long, but...
There weren't any requests for Obama's emails, because you all were too busy wazzing out about his birth certificate to think to ask for them.
So you don't like having your candidates hassled about producing paperwork, which you deem ridiculous? You don't like when accusations and conspiracies are cloaked in "document requests"?
I'll use the justification you all did... "Well if she doesn't have anything to hide, why did she take so long to release them?"
All they have to do is request it like Mother Jones Magazine did below.
You stand a better chance of doing this with President Obama than you did with George W. Bush who signed Executive Order 13233 (Google it) giving only limited access to the records of former US Presidents. President Obama revoked this order on 1 21 2009.
sarah...talk about making stuff up....you get the prize...How do you know how many requests there have been for information on Obama?....You dont need to outright lie and pretend that you know....anything....How about providing that list of people who visited the White House??? That was supposed to happen two yrs ago....Typical liberal...."we have no answers so we will just make something up that sounds good."
What are you talking about??? When did I say anything about lists of people or mention anything other then the birth certificate stuff? Which is totally on point to this situation. Are you denying that the birth certificate requests weren't the most talked about, pointless, document requests? They may have asked for more, but we heard the most about the B.C. And we thought it was slanderous and assinine, just like you all are saying the email requests are. And your response to Obama not releasing it was, "If you have nothing to hide..." What about any of that is made up, and when in my first post did I mention anything besides that?
Furthermore, bring the drama down. I don't see any personal insults towards you in my post.
You made the statement that there were no requests for Obama emails...and you dont know that...I didnt ever post about the birth certificate thing other than wonder why he didnt try to solve that problem for 2.5 yrs....No one wants to release all their emails and that is very understandable.....I repeat, we never did get the log for the visitors for the White House....and you know that is related.....
Doubt she gets a Pulitzer....(but I can't wait to hear William Shatner's readings on snl...)
.... perhaps with strains of "Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds" playing in the background :)
Todd is the brains of the outfit hope he may end up in court.
There you have it folks. What a sneak, liar and hypocrite she and her creepy husband are. Dishonest from the get go. Transparency my hind end.
Her actions from the start show her intent, morals and ethics. She has none.
Actually this is totally stupid! There has never ... repeat never ... in the course of U.S. history been a total outsourcing of a character assassination action by a news organization.
Look, I get it, you guys don't like this woman. You didn't ... you don't ... you won't ... ever, ever, ever!!!! Give it a rest will you? Do you honestly think you're going to find anything ... much less anything that might change an opinion? You're not going to vote for her if she DID actually run.
God! you are obtuse!
How about we talk about something REALLY important like the U.S. Debt limit, reduction in spending, and a balanced federal budget?
Reading Sarah's thoughts...who needs a sleeping pill? Yawn...getting tired just thinking... about...zzzz...zzzz...zzzz
So, I am curious as to why there is no request for emails that Barack Obama sent? I am curious as to why there is no request to release emails from Joe Biden or Nancy Pelosi or Hillary Clinton or Debbie Wasserman Schultz or Michelle Obama or Harry Reid?
What is the obsession with this woman? The amount of people here calling her an idiot, seems pretty idiotic to me. Is it because she doesn't talk like a harvard professor? Is it because you have all been told by the media how dumb she is? I don't understand the left's fascination with this woman and their constant attacks on her.
I don't think she is ready to be president yet and she probably knows that, but you have to appreciate her motivation and drive. I know the other argument is that she is only interested in herself and making money, but hey, that is America! Everyone wants to live a better life and make money and she has found a way to do that. She is not stealing money. She is not ripping off the taxpayer (You will have to talk to your elected officials to find that).
The fact that she doesn't get the women to stand up for her is ridiculous though. This is a woman who is self-made and has put herself on top. A small-town girl with big aspirations and has succeeded at almost every level. This should warrant praise not ridicule.
First, While I try not to have a bias, I am a news-aholic. So my big question - why does MSNBC have such a large attraction to Palin? To check, I go each day to other news web sites to see what is covered. Usually, all Palin stories together do not meet the number of Palin stories here at MSNBC. I travel in and outside the USA regularly. Again, Palin news in only found at MSNBC.
Change your focus a little. You are missing the parade that is going past -
by focusing 100% on one clown.
The answer a to why no one is poring over e-mails of President Obama, Mrs. Clinton, Joe Biden et al is quite simple. They currently hold national public office. National Security.
Sari has never held national public office. She merely held the office of Governor for one half term before she showed her true colors and quit.
The fact that Palin was being considered for Vice President was sufficient to put the world on notice that the US is on the verge of lapsing into a period of erratic and unreliable stupidity, the like of which has not been seen before.
Her candidacy coupled with that of several other loony’s she supports diminish this countries standing in the world and causes others to question the sanity of the democratic process and the sanity of the American People.
Many Americans have clearly lost all sense of what it takes to be a world leader, a statesman, and a prudent strategist on the world stage. They have lost respect for their country, its principles, and themselves when they toy with weaklings as candidates for high office.
I continue to wonder why this woman is news at all. Hundreds of people come out with statements everyday that are of far more importance than anything Palin has to say. Hundreds of pretty woman are more capable than she of standing at a microphone and making speeches, woman who actually have something to say and something important to contribute.
Palin engages in shameless self promotion and the media seems to be willing to give her endless free publicity. What is going on here? Anyone else would have to pay for the advertising? I truly hope this infatuation will end soon before the world begins to believe that we have all lost our minds.
Astonished-655682
When this lady goes away, we will forget about her. She chooses the public life and public life she gets.
"Sari has never held national public office. She merely held the office of Governor for one half term before she showed her true colors and quit."
So, how long was Obama a Senator before this country felt he was experienced enough to be president? How's that working out for everyone?? Can he blame Bush for another 5 years and take no responsibility? I bet he can and will!
Let's forget about Sarah Palin for once and focus on the things that are a little more important. Let's see, maybe Jobs, the economy, the debt, political corruption and ethics violations, and tax evaders! Will this be "Recovery Summer" part II???
Occam, I have often wondered the same thing. MSNBC and liberals in general are obsessed with Palin,all the while wishing she would "go away". There are frequently 2 or 3 Sarah, Bristol, or Piper Palin stories per day on MSNBC, while real news networks don't report anything.
Edwards and Wiener are quickly forgotten while the Palin hysteria continues.
Liberals are truly afraid of her. She is smart, witty, extremely determined, and most fearful of all, Pro-Life. Palin destroys the liberal narrative that women and minorities are supposed to be victims ( also see Thomas, Clarence) .
The fact liberals hate is that the first female president will not be a liberal democrat. It will be a conservative pro-life Republican. Michelle Bachmann, Palin, Jan Brewer, and others are national stars while the dems have nobody. Hillary is tired and done and that's it.
So of course liberals trot out all the tired old chestnuts : She's stupid, her husband is really the power, she can't raise kids and hold public office, etc. It would be extremely offensive and sexist if conservatives said these kinds of things about women. But liberals are hypocrites.
I don't think Palin will run and her big mistake was not finishing her term. I do like Michelle Bachmann of Minnesota. The hatred and vitriol directed at conservative women candidates is truly appalling.
It's really amazing that some people will not rest until Sarah is destroyed. No money, no job, no way to make money. They just want it their way because for some reason she is a threat. They have torn her apart with lawsuits since she was nominated for VP. Why did anyone not scrutinize both the Obama's, their children to make sure they were really Michelle's? The Biden's, Hilary and all of the other candidates. No one has had this level of scrutiny that I am aware of. It seems now that Obama goverment is checking all potential candidates and their background to make sure they have sufficient information to run the liberal attack machine. This will be an infringement because some of these people have not declared their candidacy and they are not public people. So much for our freedoms.
The story is about Palin and that is why the comments are about Palin. If you don't want to read comments about her, go read another story that does not involve her.
This online archive better be set up on a top notch server.
Its gonna see more traffic than Wikileaks the first day LOL
Sarahpaedia? WikiPalin?
Jon Stewart's and Stephen Colbert's writers are going to be busy for months! :)
A Pulitzer? Isn't that what her daughter should have been doing to avoid pregnancy?
No doubt the left wing whack jobs will scrutinize every one of these emails but to what end? Is this all they have to do in their lives? Well, as long as it makes them happy and keeps them off the streets, I say, go for it.
I find it interesting that the left expends so much time, money, and energy attacking Palin. I wonder why this is so? Do they fear her all that much? What other explanation can there be for their obsession with destroying her?
Frankie, Sarah Palin is a threat because she is so stupid and has a stupid following. It doesn't speak well for America. She and her followers are an embarassment to intelligent people everywhere. Read Witchking's post. It's pretty well written. Do you get it yet? Do the rest of us need to spell it out for you AGAIN for the millionth time?
I want to know what MSNBC (the White House media arm) and all you damn liberal elitists are afraid of with the lady???
marimon: and Obama isn't an embarrassment? Pelosi? "well I guess we'll have to pass it to find out what's in it"...."....I think we've been to every what...uh...all the 57 states"...I mean really.
Gary 420, you are the only person I know who would call Sara Palin smart. I'll bet you think that after Paul Revere's ride he went on to form a rock group called Paul Revere and the Raider's.
Obama can form complete sentences. Every word from Palin's mouth is either an inaccuracy, logical fallacy, or a flat out lie.
In other words, she's a moron. We don't fear her. We fear what she'd do to this country if her retarded followers managed to put her into office.
Glad I don't have to be the one to read all these emails.
Just getting through all the "You Betcha's" and "Garsh Darnits" would send any sane person to the brink.
The woman is a great American embarrassment.
Hey Gary420, Michelle Bachman is a disaster in the making. She's has ZERO chance at beating Obama, zero. She is a self absorbed wannabee who represents about a 20% group of loud mouthed religious zealots that are trying to ruin the republican party. She is arrogant, weak on business knowledge, and highly full of herself. She is EXACTLY what's wrong with politics and republicans in general. She is intellectually challenged much like Palin. And she's still fighting Roe vs. Wade 4 decades later, surely a winning strategy come 2012. lol
if the republicans nominate Bachman (which they NEVER will) just throw in the towel, you'd lose my vote and the tens of millions like me who are sick to death of religion hijacking my party. Religion is not a "resume builder" when it concerns running this country, that is a private matter. When I hear anyone spout off "I'm a Christian", I hide my wallet. Bachman on the ticket means the same as Palin on the ticket, it equals LOSER!!!
The bar has been set (complete disclosure of all e-mail activity while in public office), we can thank MSNBC for holding Sarah Palin to this standard (and in effect setting the bar for all future office holders) and all of us will hold MSNBC accountable for fairly applying it from this point on!
For those Republicans who feel they were being picked on know this, at some point in time you will want a similiar disclosure from a Democratic office holder and MSNBC is going to stand behind you to obtain it...they have to...because if they don't they lose ALL creditability as an unbiased news source, not just with you but from all the rest of us!
For now we can all join in the e-mail feast provided by MSNBC!
The Republicans, or others on this blog, are now invited to suggest names of office holders whose e-mails they feel should be made public!
SP is hot! Even if she is crazy
Annie,
I am disgusted and disappointed that a worthless piece of crap like Palin and her husband receive so much attention. It does scare me that there are people small minded enough to think she could actually be our President. I really feel that the interest is based on disgust and yes, some fear that these freaks could actually get anywhere with this. It's a fact that there are a lot of kooks out there.
Kenn...."Hold MSNBC accountable for fairly applying"....When has the media been held to that lie???
"At some point in time you will want a similar disclosure of a Democrat"....I want it now...Lets see some history of Obama that includes all the secret and off llimits stuff that the media wishes to hide from the public...
Where is the searchable archive of Weiner sexts MSNBC?
The article states: "At 9 a.m. in Juneau (1 p.m. ET), the governor's office in Juneau released to reporters 250 pounds of printed emails sent between the former governor (and her husband) and 50 state officials."
The first thing that comes to mind for me is why they couldn't release the undoubtedly timeless wit and wisdom in Ms. Palin's timeless missives on a couple of DVD's? It was already in electronic form as emails, so would that not have been easier than printing them?
There's a few trees we'll never see again.
J.A.: Begin to apply it now, by blogging and pointing out any bias you feel exists...but you need to be specific, like pjam was about the Weiner sexts! A lot of people read these blogs, but not everyone comments, if you make a good case on bias it reflects poorly on MSN...especially if they don't respond...and who knows maybe even the new owners, Comcast, are reading your blogs!
Astonished - I fail to see why you even ask why? MS-DNC could care less about "fairness" when it comes to Mrs. Palin. (Or for that matter, any Republican on a National Stage for the last 8 years) Yet have any other news organization or media outlet ask the same questions about a Democrat/Liberal and all hades breaks loose. Just look at how quick they were to collapse DKWog for making a similar comment.
Look at how many are characterizing her on this, and many other, strings. The brilliant comment that she never held public office, just Governor of Alaska shows you where their heads are. I guess the Alaska government is a private concern? And they are excusing MS-DNC for asking about the e-mails from the Democrats because they now hold "national public office" and "National Security" NEVER stopped them from hounding the Bush White House for copies of their correspondence.
When the media elected Obama we were promised transparency the White House and an end to the Bush era back room deals. What we got was the media excusing the Obama White House from doing things like not showing the White House guest book, making back room deals on the Spendulous and Obamacare bills, going to war with out Congressional approval (or even notification), and a host of other transgressions far exceeding anything that happened during the Bush years. And all they have to do is smile and blame the Republicans for every little faux-pas they commit, and the media goes right along with it.
They, the media and Democrats (which is a redundant grouping I know), wish to destroy this woman for whatever twisted reason they may have. I don't know if they are scared of her, hate all thing Conservative, or are just anti-female. Wouldn't it be great of women's rights groups would stand up for Mrs. Palin like they do for strippers who lie about Lacrosse Teams or women who have sex with politicians and killers?
Cathee, yours is one of the best comments I've read on newsvine and I'm happy it was restored.
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resignation_of_Sarah_Palin
Yes, they'd have to be paid anyway, but if it wasn't for this, they would be doing their regular duties for the citizens of the state of Alaska, not for the silly never-ending witch hunt the left continues to pursue, even 2+ years after the election.
BTW, someone above asked why all the to-do over Palin? It's the shiny objects theory-watch the shiny objects in my right hand, so you don't notice what I'm doing with my left hand. Might want to look for your wallet.....
That's got to be the funniest thing I've read today.
I think the main reason liberals are so focused on Palin and so vitriolic in their hate is that Obama is such a complete failure, they will use any distraction available to take the spotlight off their loser.
Obama is so done it's actually not funny, as he has taken us down with him. That anyone has interest in Palin only speaks to their deep desire to take the focus off the calamity before us.
Oops, I seem to have found the "Democrats for Sharia" blog....my bad...!!!
Well, I see the famous lefty action of collapsing that which you don't want to hear is at it again. Thanks MSNBC for being so open minded on #2.4 !
bayllie,
... and I feel the same way about Obama but I'm not organizing outsourced character assassination program against him by two newspapers!
alas! me thinks you protest too loudly!
Anyone else see the irony in Republicans whining about the 1rst amendment and the constitution?
AnnieRich
because she wants to represent this country and it scares the crap out of me that someone like her would.
Astonished-655682
you personally are not (on the larger scale) but don't forget the Limbaugh's, the O'Reilly's, The Becks, The Hannity's, The Palin's (still a Fox contributor), The Kelly's, the Rove's....I'm mean come, on. Do you live in a bubble?
There is plenty of anti-Obama media out there.
Astonished
Of course you won't do that, because Fox News already does it for you. Or have you forgotten about the birth-certificate BEAT DOWN you all received? Then you moved on to the musical talent booked at the White House, and your own hypocrisy was slapped in your face.
So what is the next retarded theory that will come from you and Fox News? Maybe you can blame Obama for the tornado's and not providing help . . . Oh wait. No, that was the GOP refusing to help the victims unless we make cuts to pay for it. Thanks, Eric Cantor. (Look it up)
Oh . . . maybe you can start a character assassination on Obama because his proposed legislation is too long. Oh wait, your presidential candidate Herman already did that. According to him, all bills are too long, so when he is President he will make sure that no bill is longer than 3 pages. Why? Because "you can read 3 pages at the dinner table." Ahhhh yes . . . Republicans don't like reading all those big, confusing words. Damn Obama and those evil liberals, and their ability to read beyond 3 pages. (Look it up)
Here, Astonished . . . let me help you start you next anti-liberal program. You can call it: "Real Americans CAN NOT Read. Vote GOP and limit the page length of legislation."
@Bob-304573
I believe they said "NATIONAL public office", which they are correct she has not held a national public office position, only a state elected position.
What bothers me most about Sarah Palin is her pathological denial of responsibility or error that seems to bleed over into her devoted followers. When asked a very standard question about her foreign policy experience she put her foot in her mouth and now when brought to question, she and her followers put the blame on the media. When asked which periodicals she reads to stay informed, again a very basic question, she was unable to formulate a intelligent and rational answer. Instead of taking responsibility for her mistake and possibly her ignorance she again blames the media and her loyal masses follow suit. During her time as Governor her behavior and ethics were called into question, and she resigned due to the pressures facing her from the resulting law suits and investigations. Yet again, poor Sarah it is not her fault the mean people who hate her are to blame. If she was unable to handle the pressure of her "detractors" as Governor of Alaska, what makes ANYONE believe it is magically going to become a zen experience for her if, god forbid, she's the first elected female President of the United States?
Red flags for me regarding Sarah Palin:
Unable or unwilling to take personal responsibility for her actions and their resulting consequences.
Deliberately attempting to use Yahoo mail to obfuscate her communications between public officials from public accountability.
Despite having resigned midterm due to financial and mental stress from investigations and lawsuits she incurred in a overwhelmingly conservative republican state she feels fit to hold the office of POTUS.
Her complicity to have books banned from a public library.
Her exclusive use of loyal staffers to compile her public record email for release.
Her undeniable involvement with the "bridge to nowhere" scam.
Her childish rebuttals... oh that's a "gotcha question".
etc... etc... etc...
'Bayllie' and 'Thoughts from cali'
Well, you miss the point in two respects. With respect to whatever you feel about FOX, Rove, etc. or whatever I feel about the NY Times and LA Times they are media entities which (though both of us may not be fond of one or the other) ... that's what they do investigate from their perspective.
This is a little different. It's outsourcing. The two papers are throwing out chum and asking for any hungry shark to feed. I'm not opposed to publishing (although I still think it's a waste) because the newspapers have a certain level of ethics in what they publish(Yes, I sometimes question it but ... that's what they do).
I am opposed to chumming because it generates crap on the bottom of the ocean!
BUT the biggest part you're missing is that all of this is not even worthy of your and my effort. There are bigger discussions that we ought to be having.
But then YOU GUYS AND GALS collapsed #2.4 ...
With the help of his teleprompter ;)
Astonished -
I completely agree . . . there are more important things we should be focusing on.
Fox News continues to remind us that we need to focus on the IMPORTANT issues . . . like who tweeted a picture of his wiener, or what musical artist performed at the White House. Yes, THOSE are the important issues.
Thank you, Fox News. At first I was concerned with the market crashing, the jobs report, and our wars . . . but thanks to Fox, we all know that a wiener picture is the biggest threat to our country. And thanks to Fox News, hopefully we can focus on preventing ANOTHER rap artist from going to the White House. *phew*
Thoughts from Cali
Then why do you enable them? You must know by now that there is more of the MSNBC pubishing that I disagree with then that which I do. Having said that, I look at MSNBC and I comment or in this case ask "what the heck are you all making a fuss over". You'll never see me commenting on FOX, yet I do admit to listening. Similarly, you'll never (other than collapsing my comments) see me whining about MSNBC's perspective. It's left of left but I don't dwell on it. It's the discussion ... and truely, you and I disagree on a lot!
... but this is one that isn't worth the effort we've both put forth today!
Astonished - The rancor is so high because her numbers in the polls are moving up quickly - and she isn't even running! What really drives them nuts is - she hasn't even decided.
The conservatives aren't making her big. The tea party isn't making her big. The Establishment Republicans want no part of her. It's the liberals that are making her big. I've tried several times to tell these regular naysayers that and they just scream all the louder.
Gary420 - If she stayed on as governor there would have been another few hundred frivilous ethics complaints. I don't know if she was thinking run for president, but getting out of an undefendable position to fight another day has been her true record.
For the Record - Palin hasn't decided, and like the other two times she ran for office - she prepared as though she would. We have to wait for the final decision.
And for those who think Liberals are stupid, well, that is why they have never let up. If they don't tear her up, as Americans see what the liberals say about her as severely flawed - they will lose.
DB: "The conservatives aren't making her big. The tea party isn't making her big. The Establishment Republicans want no part of her. It's the liberals that are making her big. I've tried several times to tell these regular naysayers that and they just scream all the louder."
That's what her detractors just don't seem to get (which says as much about their thickheadedness as what they accuse Palin of possessing)....without her detractors, she would likely fade into relative obscurity (and a recurring spot on the lecture circuit for years to come).
nwnative: "I am disgusted and disappointed that a worthless piece of crap like Palin and her husband receive so much attention. It does scare me that there are people small minded enough to think she could actually be our President. I really feel that the interest is based on disgust and yes, some fear that these freaks could actually get anywhere with this. It's a fact that there are a lot of kooks out there."
Hmmm....would seem you've proved your own point. Bravo.
First sentence of the seeded MSNBC article:
"If your idea of an engrossing tour through American history is reading 24,199 pages of emails from Sarah Palin's first two years as governor of Alaska..."
This sums-up the mentality of the progressive and liberal constituents of this Nation (notice I didn't say democrat or republican/independent). Wanting to pour-over the e-mails of Palin: how ridiculous!
I bet y'all were enthralled with the photo's of Weiner too!
Gary 420
Occam, I have often wondered the same thing. MSNBC and liberals in general are obsessed with Palin,all the while wishing she would "go away".
Thats because the moronic anchors know the sheeple will watch with Kool Aid in hand.
nwnative: (#2.3) What the he// are you talking about? "There you have it"???? Have WHAT? "Sneaky, dishonest, hypocrite""? Not for lack of the media trying, but NOTHING of the sort was found!!
(#2.28) And you sound like "one of those kooks out there.." You need a soothing bath and a nap!
Actually more amazed that she could have the mental capacity to write enough material to cover over 24,000 pages... or were there a lot of omg's,ummmm', and uhhhh's?
Probably all about American history.....
and 'youbetcha'...
Gee, Dan, if you're going to attack someone for being stupid, you could at least learn to write a grammatically correct sentence. Your complete lack of a subject in your sentence sort of hurts your credibility.
You think Dan is bad, wait til you read Palin.....(without a ghost writer....)...Youbetcha!
Since when have you become the grammar police Spider?
The very fact that they moved PUBLIC records to private accounts is very suspicious to me. If they had nothing to hide, then why do this?
Funny thing is, had they simply released the records when they were requested, any problematic e-mails may well have blown over by now. Bad, bad timing for her.
Well BJ, about the same time as you became the expert political analyst that you are.
Usually when someone starts attacking the grammar of a poster they lack any other fodder for debate.
Making a mistake while composing a post on an internet forum does not make you stupid. Not knowing Africa is a continent and not a country does.
When the subject of the sentence is "I" it can often be dropped as it is implied and understood. In his particular case it may not be exaclty proper, but this is an internet forum and it was a rather minor grammar error.
Depends what format the emails are in - if they are in 'memo' format (the default usually) the minimum pages per email is 1 page. So a single sentence email, like "you betcha!" would be 1 page. =P.
IMO ?
attack spelling or grammar on the internet ? = you have nothing to debate with so have to cling to something trivial.
then again , Palin is pretty trivial .. but good for a laugh.
It doesn't take brains exactly to lie, cheat and steal.
It just takes that kind of morality.
@Mike -- Other examples of being stupid and an embarrassment is toasting the Queen of England while the U.K.National Anthem is playing showing total disrespect and presenting an award to another head of state before toasting her and signing the Westminister Abbey book with the wrong date -- not by one or so days but by a whopping three years.
Spider at 3.3:
Spider at 3.6:
LOL Procrustes - he basically dissed himself!
Uh-oh...looks like the itsy-bitsy Spider got his web twisted in a wad. Palin supporter...huh? If so, looks like your intelligence level is showing, or lack there of. Doh!!!
I am baffled as to why AK did not release the emails in digital form.
Right - because not know another countries customs is the same as being a complete, uneducated idiot. Makes perfect sense.
To be a pain in the rear (business as usual for Sara Fail'en). What they don't realize is a scanning team can have this amount of documentation OCR'ed and converted to digital by lunch.
Palin shows many times that she can beat Mr. Teleprompter anytime. Ignorants and media laugh before, when she said she can see Russia from her (Alaska) backyard ,but the truth is that Russia have territories only miles away from Alaska. Liberals hate Palin because she stand against everythingliberals stand for. The coward attacks against this woman shows precisely what the left is.
@Mike Yes!!! Being inexperienced in foreign traditions, not reading the playbook or listening to his advisers, not being prepared for "gotcha" moments does make one an ignoramus when one is representing our great country. Ya betcha!
So what? That doesnt give her foreign policy experience. I live next to a military vet - does that give me VA experience?
So Palin is against intelligence, education, common sense, social programs, diplomacy before war?
chuckler-3100463
I am correcting you: you should have written "American." Some people (TP/GOPers) might think you are being sincere....gotta spell it out for them.
You know like the difference between Paul Revere's "warning of British" and "warning British."
People didn't laugh because she could "see" Russia from her house. People laughed because she used this as her only credential for foreign policy experience.
Also, you should check your grammar, because spider-737231 has been as appointed the official grammar police by the Palins
oskar-1391552
teleprompter vs writing on hand......that's a tough one. And by reading your post one can assume that you claim that Ms. Palin has not ever used, is not using and will never use a teleprompter.
knightrider-2370569
correction: spider is the Gramar Gestapo.
Other examples of being stupid and an embarrassment: landing on a flight deck in full Halloween costume declaring "Mission Accomplished" eight years and counting prematurely, giving a public back rub to German's female president, seeing Russian president's soul, attempting to exit from a locked door, mangling language, etc.
Actually Gaga is a very good role model for her followers "Little Monsters". She is not a sanctimonious phony who hates everyone who is not a white, evangelical heterosexual. And she makes up song lyrics--not American history!!! Lady GaGa 2012!!!!!!
Ben-636050
Was Obama PLAYING the national anthem while he was talking or did the ones that were PLAYING it screwed up? It was publicized that it was not his mistake.
I agree that another country's customs of proper 'court decorum' should be well researched beforehand. But those are faux-pas that even a very educated person can make.
But, I frankly don't support monarchies or their courtly courtesies, so I really don't hold it against him for not following them.
Palin, on the other hand, lacks fundamental education. Which is different than not knowing the intricacies of the British Royal Court.
Baillye
"And by reading your post one can assume that you claim that Ms. Palin has not ever used, is not using and will never use a teleprompter"
The difference is that she can speak with or without teleprompter. She don't need teleprompter to say how many states have our country . I'm sure she won't ashame our country giving to the Queen of England an iPod as a present from our nation or bows to the King of Saudi Arabia .
Not enough courtly courtesy vs. too much courtly courtesy is it? Both are monarchs, and both are 'officially' strong allies of the US.
Whether you like the Saudis or not, it doesn't matter - an ally must be treated as such, even a precarious ally. Although I do not agree to bowing to monarchs, I think Obama's actions in England were far more appropriate when dealing with royalty.
"So Palin is against intelligence, education, common sense, social programs, diplomacy before war?"
Mike
Is that the best you can say. It comes from the liberal playbook, give me something better.
actually ? your the one being stupid and should be embarrassed.
fact is the fault was the Orchestras ... not Obamas.
During the president's toast to the Queen at Buckingham Palace this week, the orchestra misunderstood a cue and began playing the national anthem, cutting him off in the middle of his toast even though he was not quite done reading his 3×5 cards.
but cons never did like facts.
"Palin, on the other hand, lacks fundamental education. Which is different than not knowing the intricacies of the British Royal Court."
Shuklack
Give me an example of her lack of education of Palin in front of foreign dignitaries ..Obama have more than one adviser with him.
oskar did you miss Palin's:
Revere warn the British
The Founding Fathers Said the Pledge of Allegiance
The Constitution is Based on The Bible
Kodiak Island is America's Largest Island
Sputnik Bankrupted the Soviet Union
Susan B. Anthony Opposed Abortion
Democrats Moved "In God We Trust" on Coins
The White House Has a Department of Law
The First Amendment Defends Against Media Attacks
New Hampshire is in the Northwest
Afghanistan and the US are Neighbors
Many VPs Had Never Met a Head of State Before Taking Office
The Vice President Runs the Senate
She's either really stupid or a liar. Which one do you prefer, oscar?
Palin ranted and raved about how Obama wouldn't release his birth certificate, while all the while refusing to release the email from her time as governor. Talk about hypocrisy.
Lol - sorry try again, Palin hasn't even been in front of enough foreign dignitaries to provide you with such.
But I think bayllie covered most of the examples that don't require an impossibility.
As easy as it is to do, there is no need to bash Palin. She will continue to prove her ignorance everytime she opens her mouth. Personally, I hope she runs and gets the GOP nomination. Can you imagine a debate with Obama?
Good point bonos_rama!!! Good point!
The is the Queen of Hypocrisy!
You betcha!
Ben - You're fighting a loosing battle trying to convince folks that the President makes mistakes. It was the bands problem they started playing our National Anthem, like they normally do at state dinners when the visiting head of state stands, and not the President's for not reading the program.
I guess it was Fox News' fault for pointing out that there are 50 states and not 57. I guess it was the Tonight Show's writers problem for writing the "Jerry's Kids" joke. I guess it was Best Buy's fault he gave the wrong formatted DVD's to Mr. Blair. I bet Apple sold the I-Pod pre-loaded with Obama speeches that he gave to the Queen. And I bet Michelle locked all the doors in the White House when the President got locked out.
And I bet most who will vilify me for writing this believe Mrs. Palin said "I can see Russia from my house".
dudoger...People from different states have different regional expressions and accents. Your thinking by saying "You betcha" is a slam, makes you the one who appears clueless. Did you ever hold the Kennedy's Boston accent and expressions up to ridicule? How about Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, LBJ, John Edwards, Al Gore for their drawls and their "y'alls"?
Your, and others' "you betcha's" say more about your lack of sophistication than you know. YOU BETCHA!
Very sketchy that she moved most of her correspondence on public matters to yahoo accounts.. What was she trying to hide?
That's the reason for this request/release - to finally expose her abject historical sleaziness.
all her minions are howling ......... but had Obama done the same ? they'd be going berserk and she'd be twitering as fast as lightning about it.
ah the hypocrisy.
Talk about hypocrisy.....Obama's "things" are under lock and key. How about your demand to see his things too? What's he hiding?
And I'm not talking about security secrets, etc. His school records, his correspondence with his connections..Ayers, Soros, Chicago machine, etc.
Why isn't Obama's records/emails released? I think Obama isn't leaving any paper trail whatsoever. He has closed-door, private meetings. He meets with officials in restaurants, like a private investigator. There is zero transparency in this administration. Just google "closed door meetings obama" and you will garner many links. He just held another one June 1st...no C-SPAN, no media allowed!!! It is all a big secret with Obama.
Lobbyists: Obama White House Hides Meetings Off-Site
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/02/24-1
It doesn't take brains exactly to lie, cheat and steal.
It just takes that kind of morality.
this is talking about Palin.
Why isn't Obama's records/emails released? I think Obama isn't leaving any paper trail whatsoever. He has closed-door, private meetings. He meets with officials in restaurants, like a private investigator. There is zero transparency in this administration. Just google "closed door meetings obama" and you will garner many links. He just held another one June 1st...no C-SPAN, no media allowed!!! It is all a big secret with Obama.
Lobbyists: Obama White House Hides Meetings Off-Site
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/02/24-1
Just because there's a witch hunt doesn't mean that there was any effort to hide from the witch hunters. There's no difference between a personal e-mail address and a personal phone number, and most employers want their employees personal phone number as a matter of course.
What's Sarah Palin supposed to do, drive all the way to the Capitol to get a government computer for every little correspondence? She can't just walk to her den and make what amounts to a phone call, saving a couple of hours on the road?
Public records laws are getting in the way of common sense. If Sarah Palin had jumped into an SUV and driven a hundred times a day to the Capitol just to send an e-mail, then her haters would be on the global warming warpath.
I hope these goofballs are proud of crippling the ability of government computer e-mail to be flexible enough to ever be a useful communications tool again. Just kill the .gov domain for e-mail now and give the witch hunters the satisfaction of their kill.
You do realize that an email address is not tied to a specific computer, right? She could very easily read and reply to an email from her den on her official email as easily as a web based email address.
She could use a smartphone or just microsoft outlook.
"Why isn't Obama's records/emails released?"
Do some rsearch on why a sitting politicians emails are not released and get back to us, OK.
wheatfield2
One of the reasons why she was asked to release her e-mails was because she kept CC'ing her husband (civilian) with all the government business.
Maybe she'll do jail time. :)
LMAO; so you are going to pretend to not know that you can access an email account from elsewhere? Why am I not surprised?
I want Obama's, Biden's, Hillary's, Pelosi's, Reid's, Boxer's.........hell I want ALL their PERSONAL emails!!! And I really want to know what you lefty libs are afraid of that you have time and again gone after Palin. It's very obvious that MSNBC, the White House and you lefties are afaid of something.
Comment # 7 deleted for leading to a huge derail. Stay on-topic folks.
how come obama never released his collage records in 2008 when he was campaigning what dose he have to hide
Sally is a noble and wise goddess. Really, I'm not kidding here. Hugs and kisses, my dear.
How sad that with all the real problems in the world people are with gleeful delight taking potshots (and wasting their time) with Mrs. Palin's e-mails. Heaven help any of us if MSNBC was able to get their hands on our personal e-mails and decided to publish them for all the nasties out their who are commenting on and denigrating Sarah Palin.
Whether you agree with her or not; there is a degree of decorum and civility as well as privacy that everyone - even a public figure such as she - deserves and should be accorded. SHAME ON YOU self-righteous, ignorant as well as callous individuals out there who take such pleasure in the harsh things you are saying. At least, she believes in what she is saying and doing her best to stand up for the family values she holds near and dear, among which I am sure good manners were one of the things she was taught and teaches - unlike the rabble engaged here in their hate fest.
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resignation_of_Sarah_Palin
This is just craziness. Think of all the money that has been wasted on this. Just to destroy someone who the media disagrees with. Most of America disagrees with the woman, can't be happy just to disagree, lets destroy the woman. I'm wondering why all this was so important, no one asked Obama for his emails during his run for election. He is the most inexperienced candidate there has ever been, yet no one questioned him about any of his emails, school papers, etc. I guess from now on, we'll say Breitbart is just like the rest of the media, (especially NBC/MSNBC)out to destroy anyone they disagree with.
Perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black. Hillary was sitting in on all of the cabinet meetings when Bill was Pres. Reagan relied on Nancy's opinions also. ALL of the spouses share things with their husbands/wives. NOW it's bad because MAYBE Palin did the same? Pull your head out bayllie.
24,199 sheets of paper? Where are all the tree-huggers now?
^^Not to mention the endless copies that will be made.
It really is kind of a pain to access government e-mail accounts from personal computers. Because of the firewalls involved there's got to be a VPN (Virtual Private Network) between the personal computer and the government network. It's really not worth the hassle for a quickie blurb e-mail.
It says in the article that Alaska has problems with high-speed internet access because so many areas are so remote. VPN sucks over my 25MBPS Cable 'Net and it would be an absolute horror over dial-up speeds.
Sally, I am usually a critic of your choices, But Hampster post 7 certainly needs to be deleted. (congratulations on good thinking)....but it is still there....
This is nothing more than the lefts attempt to discredit her. How about we release all of Obamas emails or Harry Reids or Rangles or Barney Franks . I'm sure there is alot of dirt there.
She discredited herself the minute she stepped onstage, toting little Trig as her family-values, attached-at-the-hip, political prop. That, and the fact that she doesn't even read... Chuckle... Snort!
Being proud of one's child is a discredit to a person. You must not have children, family or friends that have grandchildren who were born out-of-wedlock. Otherwise you wouldn't be cruel. Should the grand parents hide their grand children born out-of-wedlock?
thing is, she's does plenty to discredit herself, just sayin... talk about doin all the work for folks... she's an idiot.... anyone can clearly see that...
we're not talking about being proud of your children, we're talking about using them as a political prop
Name me me a politician that does not use their children and grand children in high profile political races. Family has become an integral part of campaigning. One can call another an idiot based on their inability to know how to type in proper grammar format. That is what is evident to me.
Hey dudogger...She's his MOTHER! She has every right, even obligation, to keep her little boy close to her. Especially considering he is a Down Syndrome child.
How is it you've never noticed that all of the politicians have their children on the stage with them, in photos, etc.? Who were those little girls whose photos were published Trick-or-Treating on Halloween, playing with the dog, planting a garden, playing on the swing sets on White House lawn, shopping in Europe, swimming in the Gulf, in Hawaii, going to first day of school???
john-744610
That is correct and it's the easiest job in the world because Palin is doing all the work!
@ John - I was wonderinf the same thing. I'm sure in all fairness MSNBC requested Obama's and Bidden's e-mails at the same time. And I'm just as sure those two complied immedatly to the request.
Anyone know where I can read those e-mails? No? Hum...
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resignation_of_Sarah_Palin
Hey Hampster!
Don't you think that if a Psychiatrist or Psychologist wanted to study the mind of an imbecile, that they would just study yours?
As more than one person has said, one of the reasons her emails were asked for was because she was cc'ing her husband and they are government documents since she was using her state account. Duh, it's not brain science. Also, she has ethics violations. FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) requests are very lengthy and noteworthy. The fact they were released is really quite an accomplishment by the press. There has to be a reason for them to be released and the state or the person can deny it and it can go before a judge. However, it is part of the First Amendment. Since Obama is still in office and there is technically been no formal complaints of ethics violattions, the press (not your average idiot Joe) has no reason to make a FOIA request. These emails are being released to the press, who is sharing them with the public. Maybe, if some of you would brush up on the constiution and the history behind the reason for it, we wouldn't have so many idiotic posts on here.
Also, FYI, MSNBC leans to the liberal side of things and does not apologize for it. If you're looking for something else, go to CNN or Fox. They haven't trademarked the lie of "Fair and Balanced" and done the complete opposite.
volkatwriter
She had one ethics violation - sort of. The official line was guilty of abuse of power for not controlling her staff. Um - her husband was not offically ever part of the staff. All the Troopergate email, phone calls, confrontations were all from Todd and Monegan assumed that to be coming from Palin. Even Monegan in testimony noticed Palin at a distance seeming puzzled as to what was going on between him and Todd.
The travel expense was a poorly written law. The special prosecuter even admitted it would be tossed in court. The bottom line was it would be less costly for the Palin's to repay than pay legal fees to get the case tossed. Not guilty businesses pay settlements all the time for the same reason.
Everything else brought against Palin was pure partisan groundless charges that were all dismissed at the cost of bad publicity and attorney's fees.
Aggie-345886
dudoger...People from different states have different regional expressions and accents. Your thinking by saying "You betcha" is a slam, makes you the one who appears clueless. Did you ever hold the Kennedy's Boston accent and expressions up to ridicule? How about Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, LBJ, John Edwards, Al Gore for their drawls and their "y'alls"?
You and others who think throwing out"you betcha's" is a slur and an insult to Palin, says more about your lack of sophistication than you know. YOU BETCHA!
Only Psychologist and Psychiatrist would be interested in Palin's e-mails. They would want to study how the mind of an imbecile works!
If being an imbecile means that I can come from obscurity to the national stage and in a few short years make millions of dollars for my family, I wouldn't care what you called me.
Hampster?? Isn't that a little rodent who spins in a wheel going nowhere then dies?
All about grabbing the fast, easy cash, isn't it, Benji? That justifies everything, which is how the GOBP is systematically trashing our good country today.
Quit gov't job... Go to Fixed Noise... Cash in... Repeat as often as yer greed will allow.
I think thats the point... in an imbicile, it doesn't
Only in America is your worth to society measured in dollar signs. Doesnt matter that you're a failure. Doesnt matter if you're completely and utterly stupid. As long as you're rich - you are great.
What are you ten? Your posts smack of prepubescent MTV idiocy.
Yeah, Marilyn Manson went fom obscurity to the national stage in a few short years, too! Heheheehe.
When has it become wrong to make money -- legally -- taking advantage of your situation? She is a best selling author; she has a cable TV series; she is wanted on the speaker circuit; she has a contract as a cable contributor. You call that greed because you are jealous and petty. This is America where anyone has the opportunity to become successful. Those who are not wail on the success of others. The left make fun of people who live in trailer parks -- those who you purport to want to protect. What hypocrites.
@Mike -- No one ever said that wealth contributed to one's worth to society and only fools would call her a failure. She has been successful at every business venture she has taken on. Rich doesn't mean great but I do not begrudge anyone who can take advantage of one's situation, overcome some of the most vile attacks on her and her family and come out on top.
Sorry about the hampster analogy. You are correct.
She's been a failure (or quitter) at everything she has done with the exception of being a partisan hack. If that is your metric for success - more power to you.
I dont begrudge her making crap loads of money either - that doesnt mean anything other than she has found a way to make money. That doesnt make her smart or successful in any avenue she pursues except for being a fox news boob.
Sorry Mike -- you are wrong. Best selling authors are failures? Having a cable TV series is being a failure? Having a demand for speaking engagements is being a failure? People quit jobs all the time to pursue other endeavors. Why shouldn't a politician be afforded that same privilege? If she didn't like the job, she didn't like the job. Why wouldn't you expect a Republican candidate for Vice president to be a "hack" for their party. The democrats are party hacks as well -- nothing wrong with that.
To quote you at you:
What are you ten? Your posts smack of prepubescent MTV idiocy.
dunno about that... the comedy value will be "Animal House" quality I'm sure
Ben, she she had ghost writers. Her show was cancelled (mainly for her constant political attacks and questionable hunting practices) and her speaking engagements have shrunk.
Any other glowing references you have for her?
No. But best selling authors who write books on partisan hackery are. You do realize that anyone with half a brain who purchased that book did so for either comic relief or to see what's in that idiots head. Anyone who seriously bought it to be enlightened needs their head exmined.
Whoa whoa whoa here. I told you I could care less how rich she is or what she does. I do care however that she is making a go for the most powerful position in the free world - i.e. the country I live in when she cant even fulfill her governor obligations in one of the smallest populated states in the country.
A politician who cant finish out their elected duties (i.e. quits) and immediately gets a commentary contract with Fox news is a hack. Especially one who is blatantly ignorant.
Right - because me making points as to the stupidity of sarah palin is analogous with 10 year old justin beiber ramblings. Gotcha.
@NYMike -- You strike when the iron is hot and you make the most of it. The land of opportunity. Her shrinking engagements have shrunk may be correct but your assumptions on the other two only come from left-wing hack sites.
@Mike -- you are wrong and where did you see she "is making a go" for the most powerful position in the free world. I personally don't believe she would make a good president but she has every right to try for the position if she so chooses. Don't you recall Eliot Spitzer quitting then landing a contract on a cable news channel. He must be a hack as well -- especially his resignation was in disgrace. I choose ignorant over disgraceful any day of the week.
Yes he is a hack. A morally corrupt hack. But not a brain dead hack.
Of course you would.
@Mike -- Ignorance, lack of intelligence, whatever you want to call it does not show a lack of character that morally and politically corrupt people show. Yeah I choose ignorance over a lack of character any day.
The GM and president of TLC, Eileen O'Neill had high hopes this was going to be a compelling show, but went on to state that there was simply no reality to it. They also questioned her Caribou hunting and fishing too close to bears. It's not a left wing hack site when the president of the network that aired the show states the show lacked any kind of reality, or that the hunting practices were questionable.
For someone that claims to have hunted her whole life, she sure doesn't know much about it.
Ask Lynn Vincent who wrote Going Rouge.
Ben - Sorry can't take it anymore....Character, Sarah? Pregnant with Track and elopes with Todd in Palmer. Didn't even tell there Parents. Quits her Job as Gov. More strong Character skills. Try to Have Brother In-Law Fired from the State Troopers. Fires the Librarian because she wont ban Books.
Yes Ben she sure morally sound person. You Betcha!!!!
Ben-636050
Paris Hilton made millions and is known nationally...all of the world. You want her to run for POTUS based on those credentials?
Ben, Sarah Palin's f'ing TV show was cancelled because of public outcry to the Learning Channel (Learning Channel, what a joke).
Brittany Spears is worth 100 million dollars. She is as dumb as a doorknob. She voted for Bush. She is a singer who can't sing. Mostly its her tits and a** and raunchy videos where she is dressed up like a schoolgirl to titillate child molesters. Sarah Palin is the "political" equivalent. Get it?
See Cheetah's post below if you have any doubt.
"People quit jobs all the time to pursue other endeavors. Why shouldn't a politician be afforded that same privilege? If she didn't like the job, she didn't like the job."
There's a HUGE difference between working a job and being an elected official. I took my current job for three main reasons: 1) to make money, 2) advancement opportunities, and 3) I was interested in the field.
I hope that elected officials go into politics because they want to help. I think, for the most part, that's true. While I think corruption happens to most, if not all, of them at some point, I think most entered politics because they did want to help others. I don't want people going into politics for the money, power or prestige. I want public servants who love their state and country.
Palin quit because she could make more money as a writer, commentator and speaker. She didn't leave for another office (if she had been elected VP) or after her first term. She abandoned her people because she wasn't making enough money or obtaining enough power as Governor of Alaska. She could obtain much more on book tours, Fox News, and speaking at conferences.
Best selling authors are failures? Having a cable TV series is being a failure? Having a demand for speaking engagements is being a failure?
That is COMMERCIAL success. There is nothing wrong with commercial success. I've acheived a bit of it myself. However, that doesn't mean she is beneficial or a success in society. It just means she has the ability to make money.
For example, Stephanie Meyer makes million on the Twilight books. Is she a commercial success? Yes. Is she a literariy success? No. Her books are poorly written drivel that in no way reflects on our society or creates memorable characters. Another example would be Charlie Sheen. He had a television show as well. He has a tone of money. He is a commercial success. Is he the type of person you would consider to be successful in life? Depends on how you measure success.
Props to Palin for being able to sell books, get people to pay her speaking fee and get viewers to tune in to watch her run her mouth. That's the only way she is successful. She adds nothing to the discourse except division. She has no ideas on how to fix the economy. She has no ideas on how to trim the deficit. She has no idea how to address illegal immigration. She only knows how to use rhetoric about "gotcha questions" and "liberal media elites."
I am not a Palin fan and I just can't understand the obsessive fascination with her. She isn't particularly interesting, for sure, but you folks are sure interested.
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resignation_of_Sarah_Palin
I would like to know how the mind of Obama works as well!
Uhm, tell me Obama's credentials again? Lets see he was a state senator who never voted anything but present while in the Illinois Senate, then he was a Senator from Illinois for about a year before he started campaigning for president. Why isn't that interesting. Obama is no more qualified than Palin to be president, yet here he is.
The mind of an imbecile works much like that of a hampster.
Latsky...She never did, nor ever tried to fire a librarian.
Barack and Michelle "shacked up" before marriage. So what does that make them? The minute it was revealed that Obama's minister and mentor of 20 years was a problem for his image, Obama threw him under the bus. Just a couple of "comparisons" with what you call a lack of character in Palin to the foibles of Barack Obama.
NYMike....You DO realize that Obama also had ghost writers for his books don't you? They ALL use assistance when they write books. How naiev can you be?
Marinmom...What can I say? You're just plain demented...and you're putting down Palin??????
Aggie,
Obama actually wrote his book while Palin had some one write it for her.
Yes, Agggie. I am putting down Palin. I wouldn't have a problem with her if she weren't stupid enough to think she would make a good president. If YOU think she would make a good president, you are stupid too.
hampster
'Only Psychologist and Psychiatrist would be interested in Palin's e-mails. They would want to study how the mind of an imbecile works!'
Only a jack-ass would say such a thing. How much have you read?
Marinmom: Ah, but therein lies the difference between you and me. I never said I would vote for Palin. You, however, probably DID vote for the incompetent in the White House now. Learn by your mistakes, before you call others names.
The fact that you think Obama is incompetent and you defend Palin is what makes you incompetent, Aggie. You reek like Glen Beck.
Palin has done nothing to harm this country or screw up our economics and isnt even in public office....Obama on the other hand.....and which one do you investigate, insult, ridicule???
Nice tits.
....and she can see Russia from her house.
Commons Sence 1: The only problem is that she never said that. It was Tina Fey, portraying Palin in a Saturday Night Live skit who said that.
Palin's actual quote, and the source for the Saturday Night Live rewriting of history came from an interview that Palin gave to Charles Gibson of ABC News, where she said:
"They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."
And it also happens to be totally factual and completely accurate. Of course the liberals always forget those little details. And it's no surprise that they confuse Saturday Night Live with reality. I'm sure it's one in the same to them.
Of course liberals always forget those little details? Who was it who showed a picture of Tina Fey when discussing Sarah Palin. The conservative mother ship (and Sarah Palin employer): Fox News.
Also, I wouldn't really use Palin's actual words as a defense to what SNL made up. Arguing that you have foreign policy experience because you can see Russia from land in Alaska is ludicrous. I vacationed in Europe but that doesn't mean I have foreign policy experience.
Lizzie: Palin, as the governor of a state closer to Russia than any other and a border state of Canada, has more foreign policy experience than Obama ever had as a senator.
With the exception of killing Bin Laden, if you want to include that in foreign policy, the rest of Obama's foreign policy ventures have been pretty much nothing but one disaster after another.
But even the Bin Laden kill was only given a pass because the attempt was successful. (And I'm very glad it was, and will give him credit for the kill) But, had it been a failure....no notice or approval from congress, no permission from Pakistan.....then Obama would be batting about 0 in foreign policy successes.
Begging China to buy more debt, telling Isreal to go back to being a country 9 miles wide, sending back the bust of Winston Churchill, which was a gift from our staunchest ally, one protocol disaster after another with the Queen and on and on. Oh yeah, that Obama, he's a foreign policy master all right.
And as far as Fox news: Well, you've convinced me. Yes, that was such a grievous error on the part of that organization, that I can tell you, I will never vote for them again for any public office ;-)
This should be interesting reading....... if I feel like laughing LOL
The only thing left to do now if prepare yourselves for the ridiculously mind-numbing task of reading Palin's email.
Uh, maybe you can get someone to read them to you....you know, someone who can actually read!
If the Emails haven't been tampered with, already a bunch of it has been discarded as private. My thoughts is that nothing is private if it is sent on a government computer, that makes it public. Two years to fine tune what is turned over as public matter. Palin didn't quit as govenor because she wanted to go into private business, she quit because she was facing ethics charges and private use of public property. I quess that Nixon didn't quit because he was dirty, he just wanted to write a book and make money, right? Why would Palin's quitter attitude not carry over if she was president, I don't want a president who would quit on me. Ask me if she should have quit as govenor of Alaska and I'll say "you betcha".
Obama is much more stealthy than any other politician. He has made sure that no one will ever see his past, see his school records, his Senate records, and has carried over those habits into the Whitehouse. No paper trail for Obama!!!
Lobbyists: Obama White House Hides Meetings Off-Site
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/02/24-1
Closed-door meetings rule Obama's schedule
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2009/12/16/Closed-door-meetings-rule-Obamas-schedule/UPI-87621260967558/
And most of his senate votes were "present" . Too bad the only thing he brought to the Whitehouse was a ego the size of Alaska and arrogance like none we have seen.
spider-737231
why are you bothering to respond to TT-3592479 post if you claim she/he cannot read? Isn't that kind of an oxymoron?
wheatfield2
Obama is much more stealthy than any other politician. He has made sure that no one will ever see his past, see his school records, his Senate records,
school records are private and releasing them is not a requirement to become POTUS. If they were, the coke sniffing Bush would have never been elected. Senate records can be viewed any time. If you bothered to look you would quickly find out that all votes are on record:
http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/a_three_sections_with_teasers/votes.htm
making a correction to post 10.6 because I wouldn't want anyone to think I said what wheatfield2's said:
wheatfield2
school records are private and releasing them is not a requirement to become POTUS. If they were, the coke sniffing Bush would have never been elected. Senate records can be viewed any time. If you bothered to look you would quickly find out that all votes are on record:
http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/a_three_sections_with_teasers/votes.htm
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resignation_of_Sarah_Palin
vingaroon....FYI the e-mails have not been in Palin's possession, but in the possession of the State of AK. So there is no way she could have tampered with anything. Anything that is deemed "private" is just that PRIVATE and has nothing to do with State business. And the STATE determined which to delete, not Palin. So your tampering/hiding blah, blah theory holds no credibility.
I would also love to see Obama's emails as a Senator, Biden's, and especially Pelosi's. I will bet that MSNBC won't go after them. LOL, MSN shows it's bias every day on here!
AngelP
How long did it take for you to figure out that MSNBC is left leaning? lol
You do know you can submit a FOIA request to get their e-mails...
and here you are showing your bias!
I wish she would start tweeting her privates already....SHEESH......
(That's what she keeps Tod around for.....the ONLY reason she keeps him.)
Ok, now maybe we could see Obamas college transcripts and papers he has written.
Gullibility and credulity are considered undesirable qualities in every department of human life -- except religion. -Christopher Hitchens, author and journalist (b. 1949)
Saint Sarah?
Sarah for Pope!
I would have loved to see GWB's papers and transcripts. I doubt they would have been impressive. If he wasn't a legacy student because of his father he never would have gotten into Yale. Shame on them.
President Obama graduated from some of the best universities in the country - and was editor of the Harvard Law Review, arguably the most prestigious such publication in the country. All the cries of "affirmative action" are BS.
Was there a teleprompter at Harvard?
Nope - but there was in the delivery room when your mother birthed you, "jarhead."
Trailer park mothers need someone to tell them when to scream.....
Obama never wrote anything while president of the Law Review. And can any of you Obama fans explain why we can't see his college records. Why has he sealed them? None of you have an answer for that. If graduating from those great universities makes him brilliant, then George Bush must be, too. Harvard and Yale aren't podunk schools.
Oh Linda, you Birther types are so one-track minded, aren't you?? Get new talking points, Girl! Everyone's BORED with Birther mentality - move ON GIRL!!
Obama is much more stealthy than any other politician. He has made sure that no one will ever see his past, see his school records, his Senate records, and has carried over those habits into the Whitehouse. No paper trail for Obama!!! I still want to know why Rev Wright got so much money from Obama when he sat on those non-profit boards. And most of his charitable donations on his income tax were to Wright in 2006. (required to reveal to IRS to claim)
Lobbyists: Obama White House Hides Meetings Off-Site
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/02/24-1
Closed-door meetings rule Obama's schedule
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2009/12/16/Closed-door-meetings-rule-Obamas-schedule/UPI-87621260967558/
DoobieDo, typical Liberal. You can only insult people and never come up with a reasonable answer. I knew you wouldn't have a reason for his secrecy. Why won't he show his records. I'm asking again and waiting for your answer.
Linda in Texas-469280
I'm sure you are a Bush lover so let's start with the coke sniffing drunk because those are the accomplishments of Bush:
his transcript (which was not released either but leaked):
http://wesleying.blogspot.com/2007/09/george-bushs-college-transcript.html
not the best student was he but here are his other accomplishments:
It is important to realize here that George W. was 30 years old at the time he got his DUI. By the time most people are 30, they are no longer allowed to claim “youth” as an excuse for misjudgment and illegal behavior, Bush blames it on his youth.
In addition, Dick Cheney was picked up twice in Wyoming for driving under the influence of alcohol. Mr. Cheney picked up his badges of honor at the ages of 21, and 22.
I doubt you would understand them. They might have big words.
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resignation_of_Sarah_Palin
God, How long will these afterbirthers squirm around before finally dying?
Linda, why should Obama show his school records? What purpose do you have for wanting to see how he did in Western Civ or Criminal Procedure? If he had a 2.0, he would still be the President of the United States.
Now, I'm going to explain how Law Review works. This is from personal experience. There are two ways onto Law Review (or Law Journal); grade your way on or write your way on. After the first semester of law school, the top students are invited onto law journal. During the second semester of the 1L (first year) year, there is a write-on competition. Interested students write and submit a paper for review. The paper works in tandem with GPA to determine who is admitted to law journal.
During your second year of law school (sometimes both semesters), you write an article or opinion. These are long, arduous and full of footnotes. ALL new students submit a paper to a professor for feedback. It is then determined which papers will be published in the bound copy of the law school's law journal/review. Not everyone is published. Once the opinions and articles chosen for publication have been decided EVERYONE helps with "source and cite." This is a tedious process where you check very letter, every citation, to determine if it is properly done. Law review articles can be cited by courts and in briefs so journals/reviews want to make sure the articles chosen are top notch.
Also during the 2L year, a student is picked to become Editor-In-Chief. Interested students submit applications. There are numerous criteria used to chose the Editor. Writing skills are taken into account but so are other skills as well. The Editor is responsible for making sure the volume produced is top notch. The new editor then selects the board.
During the 3L year, most editors write papers (mine did) but their main focus is on getting everything ready for publication.
Yes, sweetie, Obama did write in law school. He just wasn't published.
Baylie, it has noting to do with whether I like Bush or not. Just making a point that if graduating from the ivy league schools makes you brilliant, then he must be brilliant, too.
Thank you for explaining the process for the Review. Usually, Liberals just throw barbs and make no attempt to help educate. I still think that Obama has been and continues to be way too secretive. A president's life should be an open book. He should have nothing to hide.
again, Linda...you can't make rules up as you go. Rules are supposed apply to all not just the ones you dislike. So my point was, Bush was asked to release his school records and that was his choice not to. It's not a requirement to become POTUS. If you would like it to be, change the rules.
since it was your question, why didn't you just look it up but waited for someone to explain it to you? It's the Liberals' fault that you don't bother to look things up?
Lizzie, I think we are wasting our time here. People like Linda in Texas have stupidity so ingrained in them that no amount of posts will ever make them see the truth.
I think the only solution is for the US to separate into two countries. The first country will be the United States of Jesus. There all you delusional people with imaginary friends can govern yourselves, rob each other blind, send YOUR kids off to die in the wrong wars and masturbate to pictures of Sarah Palin, George W.Bush and Newt Gingrich.
The second country should be called the United States of Reality. It will consist of the residents of the Blue States (Democrats). People holding political office will have REAL educations that pertain to government. All the artistic people will live in this country so our movies and music will be the best. Most of the scientists, too. Health care will be available to anyone. There will be gobs and gobs of money because we won't have those stupid Red welfare states sucking down all our tax revenues. Churches won't have tax free status so a lot of them will close and real estate will be cheap again. We won't be spending all our money on whorish overinflated defense contractors like Halliburton so we will all be filthy rich and happy. We can watch as the United States of Jesus wallows in ignorance and squalor. We won't help when they are attacked by the rest of the world, either. No way.
What do you say, Blue State residents? Are you as sick of these welfare queens as I am? Lets organize and kick these ignorant jerks off of our teats. Any likeminded residents who accidently live in Red States can feel free to immigrate to the Blue United States of Reality. Come to California and enjoy some wine and cannaibis. Hawaii is ours, too. Aloha.
@marinmom
why not just travel back in time and let's all live in the soviet union. Yeah, that worked out well for everyone there. How can you be so ignorant as to think that all the democrats in office have the best interest of this country in mind. If you can't tell Obama is steering us to back to the dark ages where the people have no rights. Hmmm...I, for one, like having freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom to elect and/or remove someone from office if they are not accurately representing the people.
It is just unbelievable how blind America is. Everyone wanting socialized medicine...Do you know what will follow socialized medicine? Yep, socialized EVERYTHING. which means the people will have no rights, no say in anything. Just dumb sheep being led to the slaughter
There is no need to search through Palin's old e-Mail for proof of stupidity. Just keep allowing her to speak in public.
.......and we'll just keep allowing you to comment, so we can let you prove your own stupidity!
Nice to know that YOU control who can and can't post on Newsvine "spider." Your inflated sense of power and control is comedic to watch :-)
Your right and Obama is just as stupid
JH, it's "you're" not "your" and you just proved YOU are stupid. You are not even smart enough to use spellcheck. No wonder you are a Palin fan.
spider-737231, you are suspended for a day for violating rule # 1 of the Code of Honor.
Go, Sally, go.
Note to conservative posters:
Please be aware that there may be mindlessly liberal "Grammar Police" currently "on patrol".
Since these social imbeciles expose themselves by being incapable of offering reasonably cogent responses to common sense conservative positions, they are only capable of reverting to "attempting to attack grammatical errors" and of course, their specialty, personal attacks.
Remember: These people "may or may not be suffering from LIBERALITIS" for which there is no known cure, beyond "maintenance therapies".
Please, on behalf of "common human decency" do not LAUGH at or MOCK these mentally disfunctional people and refrain from making "crude insulting comments"... if possible??? The people suffering from "advanced stages of LIBERALITIS are to be PITIED.
peace :-)
If Democrats had brains they would be Republicans!!
No thanks. We don't wanna be sheep. behhhhhhhhhh.. behhhhhhhhhhh
WOW Sally, just WOW. Have NOT noticed just HOW MANY posters used that same word, and some far more insulting, when addressing anyone who defends Sarah Palin, and when referring to Sarah Palin????? Nothing like stacking the deck on one side. One more time...WOW.
Aggie-345886
do you know that you need to report those people? That's how it wors, aggie.
It was a "gotcha question", says she.
“What have you seen so far today and what are you going to take away from your visit?”
Yep, clearly a cleverly crafted query to catch an idiot.
Those darn elitist liberal media tricksters!
I have no love for Obama, but when someone twists something as basic in American history as Paul Revere's ride, I hope she stays in Alaska and fishes. On a similar note, Michele Bachmann was in Concord, NH a few weeks ago and didn't know the difference between the event that occurred at Concord, MA and NH, 'the shot heard 'round the world' was in Massachusetts, not NH. But, in fairness, at one point, Obama thought there 57 states. Good Lord, will someone please run for President, please?
Professor ROBERT ALLISON (Chairman, History Department, Suffolk University) BOSTON:
I guess the prof and palin are both wrong.
http://www.npr.org/2011/06/06/137011636/how-accurate-were-palins-comments-on-paul-revere
Depending on how old you are could depend on the version of history you were taught.
Government run schools teach our kids just what government wants them to believe.
With enough money you can get a professor to say anything you want. Dont forget - economics professors from harvard and yale stated that there was nothing wrong with bundled mortgage backed securities and credit default swaps in the 2000's. That ended rather well eh?
"the evening of April 18, 1775, Paul Revere was sent for by Dr. Joseph Warren and instructed to ride to Lexington, Massachusetts, to warn Samuel Adams and John Hancock that British troops were marching to arrest them."
http://www.paulreverehouse.org/ride/real.html
Well I guess you could be correct. It was an NPR interview.
Right - because that means NPR paid him to say that. One step at a time here I know.
Seems that Sarah was right. Now, don't you feel silly.
Because it clearly states that Revere was riding to warn the british that we werent to be trifled with and that it was a 2nd amendment issue.
Can you read?
You're the one who should feel silly for believing such an idiotic statement by Sarah about The Second Amendment which wasn't even in existence back then.
HELLO!! The USA hadn't been formed yet!!! A cockroach probably knows more history than that "media whore."
At the time Paul Revere was riding, there was no 2nd Amendment. And I am certain that Palin knows that. The point she was making was that what is guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment was important even in the time of Paul Revere - why else would it have made it into the Bill of Rights?
From the NPR interview with Professor Robert Allison of Suffolk University:
Go USA-851295
I'm sure you can find a doctor that will tell you that crack is good for your health, too.
Really? Do you really think that liberal NPR would find a supporter of Sarah Palin for their show? Your willful blindness is stunning.
If you actually read Revere's account you will see that he was arrested by a British patrol. He emphatically did not intentionally set out to warn the British that we were not to be trifled with. He was arrested, captured!
Having then been arrested and with a pistol at his head he advised the British officer interrogating him of his mission. I'll wager he was pretty scared at that point (who wouldn't be?) and told the exact truth of his mission in fear for his life and not as an act of bravado to "warn" the British.
Perhaps this is what Ms. Palin meant in her "aw shucks", down home mangled version of English but that is not what she said.
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resignation_of_Sarah_Palin
lets dont forget all those bells ole paul was a ringing on his covert ride . ask sarah , he was a ringing them bells , and them bells was a ringing .
Did you watch Colbert report? He demonstrated how Revere pulled it off according to dumbass Palin. He had a bell on one hand, a rifle in the other, while galloping on a horse, and he would have had to load his gun with gunpowder from the front of the barrel while the horse was running full speed oh and at same time ringing those bells and yelling to the British that the colonists were coming, the colonists are coming!!! LOL It was priceless!!!
Speaking of GWB getting into Yale on his father's coattails, why haven't we seen Obama's academic records OR any money trail to see how he managed to get into Yale. LOL, is he ashamed of his grades?????
He graduated magna cum laude, top of his class. He was the president of the Harvard Law Revue. Why do you need to see his grades?
To this day one cannot see Obama's writings from college. What is he hiding?
My bet is on "The Stellar vision of Mau Tse tung",
"Robert Mugabe, a leader before his time" and
"Mein Kampf, the road map to social justice*.
Maybe he will finally show us his long form birth certificate too!
Oh wait...
Silly tea baggers.
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resignation_of_Sarah_Palin
Mike-420 you got your name wrong pot head. You like being Tea Bagged? I can't believe people even care about these stupid emails. "get a life" Sara may not be a political genius, but she is a real person and would do better than these Lifer politicians in office now. We need somebody with business sense in office instead of professional politicians that keep taxing us to death and taking away our rights and forcing us to buy their useless gubment programs. I say we fire all the worthless schmucks and start over. Has anyone ever met a Mike with brains??? lol
ROFL, I am not a Tea Bagger and I agree with 3rdPartyAdvocate. I am an independent (registered Democrat but going to change THAT) who was fooled by Obama's promises. Now that he has broken most of them, I will never, ever vote for him again!
Never ever? Let's see, that would be one more time.
I don't understand how anyone can still support this woman. She resigned from her job as governor to go serve herself and her bank account, instead of the people of Alaska who voted for her.
She's also a complete idiot. But, the whole quitting her job thing is unforgivable in my book. That alone should make people realize who Sarah Palin serves. She's only out for herself.
Not to mention she put over 100 DNC blood sucking lawyers out of s job.
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resignation_of_Sarah_Palin
Sounds like she had to quit as governor or she would have been bankrupt.
No marinmom: The STATE would have had to pay for all the expenses of hearing every case some psycho woman filed, just to harrass her. She SAVED the people's money. And all but one, minor issue, was throw out of court as a frivilous waste of time and what would have been taxpayer money. Try reading the post with an open and fair mind, not one already closed to the the truth.
Aggie, you have your head where the sun don't shine.
Too bad this kind of scrutiny escaped Obama. Maybe we wouldn't be in such dire shape now.
You mean like the fact that he is the only president EVER to have to present his long form birth certificate to silence a bunch of loons?
You need to brush up on how politicans emails are released OL. It happens after they leave office, not during their term.
I'm not talking about just emails. There was no research done, or at least reported on by the mainstream media with respect to Obama's past, his associations and political positions. The rectal probe only seems to be used for republican candidates, and especially for Palin. I'm not a fan of hers, I would just like to see a little parity.
Given the recent discovery of Democratic wrong doings, I have do disagree about the probing only being towards Republicans. I am pretty sure the D's are currently in the lead in the poor ethics department.
C'mon - lets hear the birther rhetoric. Dont disappoint me.
Yes, a little parity would be nice but you won't find it on this board. It's one sided if you haven't noticed...Trying to get some parity here is as hard as swimming against the tide.
One of the problems with Palen is that she doesn't fit the 'mold' of the average
American woman. I wonder if people 100 years ago hated "Annie Okley" because she didn't fit the mold of womanhood. Gun tote'n-horse ride'n out doorsey and good looking....about as far from the liberal idea of womenhood that one can get.
He's the only one who refused to show proof of eligibility when asked. Takes time to forge documents and cover tracks ya' know. You betcha now..
rightwingdoug
You mean like Bush's military records were "cleansed" of all damaging information?
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resignation_of_Sarah_Palin
Obama Lies: Excellent posts! Keep 'em coming :-)
When anyone considers the "pathetic sexual transgressions" on both sides of the aisle; people CURRENTLY SERVING IN OFFICE... and compare their "sick behavior" of "sexually ill politicians to a reasonably descent woman like Palin, it simply underscores their ignorance.
As an Independent, I have little respect for MOST politicians from both sides, but the VITRIOL against Palin is so far over the top, the attackers come across as idiots, complete idiots.
Even if people "disagree with a person's political views", vitriolic attacks prevent discussion.
BTW... never, never even ASK about Obama's background cause that suggest you are being BIGOTED against America's 1st Semitic Arab president?
peace :-)
Speedy,
the info is out there...it's called the internet. Today you can look up anything. Your above statement speaks volumes. You are not interested in facts; you are interested in posting propaganda.
The prosecuting attornies wil be having a field day
They've already tried. They can get all this stuff with a court order.
This is just Palins panty drawer and nothing more.
Enjoy~!
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resignation_of_Sarah_Palin
John
The discussion is about Palin's emails and nobody else. Please try to stay on topic.
We don't need to discredit Palin, she does that to herself day in and day out.
Many folks on the right seem to think Palin is very smart. We..she is, if you compare her to a sock puppet.
All of this will probably end up being just like Palin, boring and tedious.
The courts should not view MSNBC as a member of the media, rather, it should treat MSNBC as a tool of the democrat party, an adversary. MSNBC pretends to be a news organization; however, only the most ignorant US citizens buy in to their efforts to appear objective.
Not sure why MSNBC identifies so steadfastly with the liberal agenda other than the fact that most of its employees are gays and lesbians, who have never actually worked in real jobs. These people report nothing. They simply repeat whatever talking points the democrat party provides them.
Yes and write it on an 8th grade level.
Mel Erny - You are so right. Why are they not trying to gets the emails of Weiner or Rangel?
And if Fox News is Fair and Balanced, I'm a Chinese Jet Pilot born in raised in NashVegas, TN.
Journalism, research, and the technical jobs at any of the networks (MSNBC, Fox, whatever your flavor is) aren't *real* jobs? Lesbians, gays? Is that a problem for you? They shouldn't have jobs? You're a dumbass, do you have a job? Or just trolling on here.
Seriously Mel?
Now MSNBC employees are homosexuals because you don't agree with them? How old are you? BTW, the word gay would encompass both male and female. Aside from attacking a news source you don't like, what do you bring to the debate? What agenda are they catering to? The fact that it took longer than release the emails than she was in office? Do you even know what the allowed time is to hand over emails after a politician leaves office? I can tell you it's much shorter than the delay after delay after delay brought us. Have to make sure those emails are scrubbed clean I guess. Or perhaps that she shifted her correspondence to private Yahoo emails, which I hope are or made public as well.
Why will she only grant pre scripted and rehearsed interviews with her employer? Could it be that FOX news is biased towards the rights agenda? In your attempt to paint MSNBC as a evil left leaning news source, you left out that Sarah's employer leans so far right that it falls over every time it tries to stand up.
Tell me what she has brought to the table but attack after attack after attack. She has offered not a single solution. IF you're going to attack policy, you damn well better have your own idea of what would be better. Instead, it's nothing but smear after smear from her.
Sorry if giving her what she's giving the American people bothers you so much. Maybe if she would stop throwing stones at every ones glass house, people wouldn't throw them back.
Hi bigot
*wave*
pot, kettle, black.... hello Fox News
Touché NYMike!
It's easy to complain and hard to lead.
Mel - I am interested in knowing what constitutes a real job. Is it the tasks performed, or the type of employer, or the employee's sexual orientation, or what exactly? More importantly, who sets forth the criteria?
Did you catch the Palin interview on Fox News Sunday where she was using the teleprompter? Yet she has a zinger in which she makes fun of the President for using one. If you bring this up to one of her supporters - with the evidence - they won't refute it but rather say something like "Obama does it more than she does".
No matter which side of the Red/Blue line you stand you can see dirt on the other side. The trick is making sure your dung stinks less than the other guy's dung.
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resignation_of_Sarah_Palin
Crazy Merican
The TPGOPers are very fond of the phrase "Do as I say, not as I do." They will preach about the sanctity of marriage while they are having sex with prostitues. They will deny you the right to the"socialist" health insurance while they benefit from the tax-payer funded insurance. They will point out that Obama uses a teleprompter by reading "Obama is using a teleprompter" on a teleprompter....
Gotta laugh how some of these "obsessive Palin haters" literally FREAK regarding ANY media blurb on Mrs. Palin?
As "The Joker asked in Batman, WHY SO SERIOUS?"
Yet, we have this complete "supposedly academic" potus... based on WHAT?
If our so-called "academic potus" TRULY was an "academic" wouldn't a person like that BE SO VERY PROUD to offer "public inspection" of his "supposedly wonderful academic achievements?" Not only have the public records of Palin's entire life, from grade school to college and politics have been exhaustively inspected by the media, and now 24 thousand Emails being added for further inspection... the American public has NEVER SEEN even 1 semester of grades during the "supposedly lengthy academic years of study" of this "temporary worker we have in the Oval Office?
How many "former classmates and/or professors" of our potus has ANYONE ever heard from... seen on a TV interview/panel... or showed up on any show from TODAY to Oprah to late night shows? But hey, what about those "Palin emails?" See, now they are "really important, huh?"
Although I cannot recall EVER SEEING A SINGLE ONE, I will concede that surely "someone must have seen or heard of one of his classmates or professors somewhere?" But hey, what about those "Palin emails?" See, now they are "really important, huh?"
Seriously... HOW SERIOUSLY WEIRD IS THAT? And it is far more weird that "no one ever even seems to ask?" But hey, what about those "Palin emails?" See, now they are "really important, huh?"
Let's get real here, just for a minute... I mean "Obama IS our president" isn't Obama the ONE we should always keep asking questions about? But hey, what about those "Palin emails?" See, now they are "really important, huh?"
Look at what has happened to these IDIOT politicians like Clinton, Spitzer, Arnold, Weiner and an endless list of moronic politicians on both sides?
Isn't it "just as reasonable and totally fair" to CHASE, STALK, HUNT, TRACK, RECORD ALL politicians from the potus on down? Of course it is?
Yet, some Americans seem obsessively distracted by a woman, who does not even hold an office? But... here is the irony...
By "simply obsessing over Palin" instead of damaging her reputation, which is the PRIMARY OBJECTIVE of the left... Palin's "Public Notoriety is MAGNIFIED" so her "speaking fees" only continue to skyrocket? The "haters" KEEP SARAH on Center stage and forever in the spotlight" as she continues to charge more and more and more? Who is "really laughing at who?"
The moral is: Be careful who you attack with hate; you may be helping THEM !
peace :-)
Brilliant Speedy! Nailed it...
Reminds me of The Wizard of Oz movie. All the pyrotechnics going off to draw Dorothy's, et al eyes to the spectacle, and away from the man behind the curtain. "Pay not attention to the man behind the curtain."
After reading many of Gov Palin's emails, a volunteer worker stands and quotes Billy Madison -
Yeah....
LOL! Perfect.
Half governor, half brain Palin is a horrible excuse of a human being.
She may indeed be a poor politician, but what makes her a horrible human being?
But she does have nice ta-tas!
Half governor-half brain. interesting, and what great accomplishments have you made in your life so far? Been governor of a state? Vice presidential candidate? Had your own cable network show? Just askin'
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resignation_of_Sarah_Palin
Hopefully this will be enough to finally get rid of her. She's been nothing but an embarrassment to America all along.
When you have had over two years to "clean up", it is highly unlikely that anything that can be used against her will be found. In fact, I predict that the right will have more fodder against the left after people read them.
For *real* embarrassment, just look at what's in the White House now.
She's really exceeded Andy Warhol's 15 minute prediction, and why?? The sobriquet of 'Eskimo Barbie' seems to be more appropriate as she keeps bouncing back into the public eye. I think McCain got some bad Intel on this choice.
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resignation_of_Sarah_Palin
This directed toNYMike: with the percentage of NY people that reelected Rangle, and are ok with Weiner your opinion has become irrelevant. Since ethics, and morals don't matter when it is a Democrat, you lose the privilege to criticize anyone. Ever take the time to consider why NY is a dying business center.
optimist1-1061290
what state do you live in?
Nah, she is just making the hate-filled libs foam at the mouth. She is too pretty for the butt-ugly lib/feminists, and jealousy is a mean sumbitz!
I'm no fan of Sarah Palin, but just because you people disagree with her views, she's an embarrassment to the United States. I don't think so. She is an educated woman who successfully became the governor of the biggest state in the union. It doesn't matter that she didn't go to an Ivy league school, and it doesn't matter that her state has a small population. You people demonize her because she disagrees with your politics. Everyone in the country has freedom of speech, not just the people you agree with.
What scares liberals to death is the fact that more people in the country identify themselves as conservative or leaning conservative (I didn't say republican) than the amount of people who describe themselves as liberal. The liberals are scared to death, that more people will begin to lean conservative.
The liberals are having their jollies over this I am sure, too bad the liberal media didn't take a microscope to obama and HIS background like his friends (Ayers & Dorn), that raving preacherman Jeremiah, the Acorn background, could you imagine all the dirt that we would have found out. With the problems our country is facing because obama and his adm. don't know what they are doing, this is what the left thinks is important, no wonder our country is in shambles.
It would be very interesting to see the same liberal media repeat their Palin actions as to Obama. Has ANYone EVER seen a scholastic transcript of the great half white thinker? (I use the term because I will be branded a racist anyway). I think not. Most people who have a stellar transcript would be very proud to show it to anyone requesting the transcript. I know, he doesn't HAVE to legally bare it, that isn't the issue. Just another example of Obama's (?openness?).
Dasvet
That's like saying Fox News treats Obama the same way they treat Palin. If you are not interested in what other people have to say, stick to Fox. At least there you will hear what you want to hear.
DasVet: Great post! Since by your moniker, I am assuming you are a "VET", then THANK YOU for your service too!!!
Also, in addition to Obama being half-White, isn't it ABSOLUTELY AMAZING that "almost NO ONE EVER even MENTIONS that Obama is 43.5% SEMITIC-ARAB and a "whopping 6.5% Black?"
Here is THE KICKER: Obama is ZERO PERCENT AFRICAN-AMERICAN... yet How many times do Americans and "many members of the Black community heard of Obama being referred to as "America's 1st African-American President?"
The funniest (and saddest) part of all is that for even MENTIONING these facts from "Obama's OWN book"... just for mentioning them, that person will be criticized; called bigoted, etc.?
THAT is all part of this BIZARRO Media World we are living in?
But hey, what about those "Palin emails?" See, now they are "really important, huh?"
Go figure?
peace :-)
Thank you, Speedy. I did serve for four years long ago. I do not expect any praise for it, because I received my life's important lessons, for which I am eternally grateful, due to my service. I received a lot more than I could ever deserve. It is astounding how much energy/time and money is spent on such,an unproductive witch hunt. The libs are very, very upset that there is, basicly, just boring interoffice communications. Sarah is just too feminine/pretty to suit the femi-nazi crazies. Their ugliness creates jealousy and that is a bummer.
OH! alsophia theophilos.....You've got that just a tad mixed up. It is the MEDIA and the witchhunting liberals who have embarrassed themselves and America.
Give Sarah credit, she & the Donald know how to make a buck. I don't think either one of them is really serious about running, just PR.
That sounds like a dream ticket. Brains and beauty- cant lose!!
brains? How many times did Trump file for bankrupcy and paid his creditors pennies on a dollar? Would Trump even have anything if he did not inherit it?Beauty is even relevant?
How many millions do you have? Where's YOUR empire? I can't stand Trump, but whatever he inherited was in the past, what he has now HE built on his own ingenuity and business savvy. Beauty shouldn't be relevant, so why are so many, women especially, hating her because she is extremely attractive? Envy, that's why.
I bet Weiners and Chris Lee's email would be much more interesting. Probably racier anyhow.
This has what to do about Sarah Palin? When those two politicans leave office, you can request their emails. I bet it wont take over two years to get them either.
Nice deflection though.
Can't wait to see Obama's. Oh yeah, it'll be a cold day in Hell when those are released.
It has to do with emails I think...that is what this topic is about. If we are talking about public figures and their emails... theirs would be much more interesting. If your problem is I am not bashing Sarah Palin sorry... politics are so corrupt and both sides fit the shoe.
to nymike obama will never release his . he has so much to hide him and his czars
Palin announced she was resigning her office due to the costs and distractions of battling the ethics investigations launched against her, and described as “insane” the amount of time and money that both she and the state of Alaska had expended. She said the state had spent $2 million and she and her husband Todd would be spending "more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight." The Anchorage Daily News reported that much of the $1.9 million cost cited by Palin consisted of the regular salaries of state employees who would have to be paid, regardless. However, the Governor's spokesperson said that in order to respond to the ethics complaints, staffers from multiple state agencies had had to set aside their normal duties, state lawyers had been pulled off other cases resulting in "lost value to the state",
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resignation_of_Sarah_Palin
A big whoopee, now that the e-mails are out in public. Daily operations of the minutia of running a state government. Not the great novel, the libs will try to concoct.
NY Mike....Those e-mails were not in the possession of Sarah Palin. She was not holding them up, nor altering them in any way. They have been and were and are in the possession and the property of the State of Alaska. It behooved the State to go through them to strike anything not meant to be made public concerning individuals and involving the workings of the State and Governor, for security reasons, etc. Only ones not released were of a private nature, which as we all know, EVERYONE has messages of personal and private matters that we send and receive on our work e-mail. No doubt, that includes you. Not that it's scandalous, just private. Anything scandalous that could have been in Palin's e-male, BELIEVE ME, it would have been all over the papers. Ya know, like Weiner.
And, after all the work, waiting, money spent, beating a path to Juneau, hiring people to dissect each page.....no scandal, no bombshell, nothing to make their "BIG Story" was found. Too bad...so sad. I wonder just how foolish MSN feels about now?