I don't really care about Weiner, but since we're all so concerned with being stand-up guys and gals, I will use this time and space to call for all congressmen and women to submit to a drug test.
The dems desperately want Weiner to resign because they fear a continuing series of revelations. Obviously, Weiner’s been at this for some time and the dems consider it likely more women will come forward and more tweets/photo’s or other embarrassments will, over time, manifest themselves.
If Weiner resigned, then any future revelations will have little impact on the Democratic Party.
In this matter, the dems should follow the lead of the repubs where in similar circumstances they quickly resigned. Sleaze is not confined to any one party.
Weiner, and outspoken liberal, has acknowledged sending sexually explicit messages over the Internet to a half-dozen women over the past three years and then lying about it.
In a recent poll of registered voters in Weiner's district, 56 percent said he should stay in office while 33 percent said he should leave.
Guesses are that many of these 'supporters' have teenagers of their own and would be mad as hell if their daughter fell victim to this trash.
The sacrifices one has to make to keep a Liberal agenda open!
At this point in time, it is. When he resigns we will consider him equal to the other sleazes like Vitter Edwards, etc etc, but right now, all the sleaziness is his. But remember, the Clintons are his advisors so who knows.
Let's see... electronic contact with various women over three years... nothing illegal... but he should resign?
Prostitutes, affairs with staffers, actual illegal actions and actual adulterous contact... Vitter still sitting in his seat... Ensign resigned only when he saw he couldn't get re-elected in his state... but Weiner should resign?
Stay put Weiner. You're still more respectable than any repugnocant I know of.
Yes, please don't resign Weenie; we're having too much fun with this. What with the Dems trying to toss him under the bus and libs like ScubaGolf trying to justify it. Hey GolfJim, if this were a Republican caught with his zipper open, I bet you'd be defending him too......right?
Vitter is a sleaze, but at least he had the sense to hire hookers, and like a good Republican spent money in a capitalist manner; Weiner, is a sicko, he needs serious help if he does not resign he will become a Piranha in Washington, and in Washington you have to be really sleazy to be a Piranha .
Last week Wasserman-Schultz said this is a private matter and even remained quiet all week. The other day Pelosi said it was up to the Rep and his constituents. Until the 17 yr old surfaced i was bothered more by the continual lying than the other although the fact he tried to blame others as a set up and take their livelihood is also despicable.
Suddenly now they think he should go/ Oh the best is though that since the Dems do not claim family values is it different. So I guess if one has no values they are allowed to act as they will.
I do not care what party if they are foul they should go that is JMO and I do not have the power to make any of them go but if i did they would all go/no excuse for this. he should have been gone IMO
Would anyone want their daughter exposed to this?????
In early 2007 my office did a study that found that over 85% of registered sex offenders in New York City live less than five blocks from schools, and 670 sex offenders live within just two blocks. Some offenders are even closer, permanently residing less than 500 feet away from unwitting parents, educators and children.
Along with several colleagues in Congress, we introduced & passed the KIDS (Keeping the Internet Devoid of Sexual Predators) Act of 2007, a bill to require sex offenders to register their e-mail and instant message addresses with the National Sex Offender Registry. The “Kids Act’ implemented one of my six recommendations to keep a closer eye on sex offenders both near school grounds and online. I also proposed stricter GPS tracking of sex offenders, tougher enforcement of registration laws and more public disclosure of sex offender data.
Sadly, the Internet is the predator's venue of choice today. We need to update our strategies and our laws to stop these offenders who are a mere click away from our children.
Sadly yes.......and Weiner is a VIOLATOR of his OWN LEGISLATION...how's that for
Why? I thought this was what the democratic party stood for. He doesn't believe he has done anything wrong. This is what we can expect from democrats. Gentlemen, do not be suprised if Nancy Pelosi sends you graphic photos of herself. You can throw up, but don't be suprised.
First of all, we're convicting the guy without a trial. Secondly, let any politician who has never done anything unscrupulous and/or immoral please stand up (anybody??). And as far as Weiner being a "sexual predator," again, we have no proof at all at this point that his internet contact with a 17-yr old was inappropriate. I do not condone what Weiner has done, but we have a lot more important issues as a nation to worry about. If he did anything against the law, we have courts for that.
DTJB -- Weiner is not a pedophile, nor did he engage in sexting with young teenagers. He did do sexting with adult women, and he is an exhibitionist.
All of you are missing the point and getting way off topic.
The question has been, beyond familial ethics and moral mishaps, Can Weiner function as a Congressional leader after compromising himself in this manner?
Is internet exhibitionism, twittering and sexting, cheating? Most of us tend to think so. Why did he lie about it? Obviously he is embarrassed about his problem of being an exhibitionist.
Actually, I really like what Alec Baldwin said. Maybe everyone should read his comments. Weiner is a modern man , a political figure, who got wrapped up in the internet, and with his exhibitionist tendencies, he got bit in the butt.
I was alluding to the likes of Lee, Massa, Ensign, and others. Nope, I didn’t forget about Vitter but perhaps he survived due to his transgression being pre-twitter. I don’t think there’s any question that these incidents have far greater impact, coverage and consequences for the transgressor than just a few years ago.
after having great secretary's for 40 years, I am still learning how to type; spelling is the next step, yep I did not mean the little Amazon fish, however it may fit, thanks .
As is often the case, the events that unfolded AFTER this scandal are why Rep. "wanna see my..." should resign or be removed.
While I would forgive his interest in the young un's by itself if he had come clean, Anthony's dog and pony show after this broke and especially the accusation of a cyber attack/hacking of a U.S. Rep's social networking sites is completely unacceptable. Rep, Weiner should resign or be removed.
As for #1.17, as much as I vehemently oppose the policies of Rep. Pelosi, there is simply no evidence she's ever been involved in any type of sex/sexting scandal. I'll be happy to attack her clueless socialist policies, but unless and until she does something to bring the spotlight on her personal life, I'll (thankfully since the thought of a sexting tweet from her is disturbing to say the least) leave her (and all other public officials') private life(lives) alone! Neither party has much room to talk when it comes to scandal, which is one of the main reasons that politics are so much fun !!!
I could care less abut the original stuff but he lied for over 10 days and on camera and claimed it was a set up to take his job away. he said others were lying and not him he tried to take away others livelihood with his lies.
If he lies about this what else will he lie about/he lied to his wife who he supposedly loves what lies will he tell to those he could care less about.
Now 17 year old girls are having to give up their computers for the weekend so they can be investigated since he had no idea if people were even of age as he sent "junk mail" by IPhone/and twitter.
Last week people were claiming he was on the up and up and the one that was the victim what more will roll out as this goes on/
Not to mention what if someone wanted to use this as leverage for some unknown reason there is too much at stake here with his position
Yes, please don't resign Weenie; we're having too much fun with this. What with the Dems trying to toss him under the bus and libs like ScubaGolf trying to justify it. Hey GolfJim, if this were a Republican caught with his zipper open, I bet you'd be defending him too......right?
A couple of things for you to think about Spider:
1. If there has been no illegal activity...
AND
2. The person is not a complete hypocrite having run on his/her "moral fortitude"
...there is no reason for them to resign, no matter what party they represent. Guess you're defending Vitter though? He BROKE THE EFFING LAW AND RAN ON HIS "MORALS" AND DEMANDED CLINTON RESIGN FOR NON-ILLEGAL ACTS and repugnocant defend him? Typical... hypocrites.
Really, which is worse? Lying in a stupid attempt to protect your reputation (DUMB move by Weiner) or being a lying hypocrite about breaking the law in addition to adultery against your self-proclaimed "family values" stance? I'll take the former over the latter any day.
National party chairman calls disgraced Democrat's behavior 'indefensible'"
Um, duh! Everybody with a brain understood that as soon began saying he couldn't deny the photo was him.. yet you still have the mindless sheep trying desperately to defend a perv because the "D" next to his name is the most meaningful to them.
Toasty McGrath "How did he violate it, DTJB? He committed no crime and interacted only with consenting adults."
Age 17 is not consenting. He violated rules for Congressmen, so it would be hypocritical for him to stay. A Republican Congressman was forced to resign within about an hour just for one tweet without a shirt. Weiner did far worse, releasing a photo of his peni$.
The last thing the Democrats need right now is for this to drag out for the next several months with a congressional investigation. It appears that the 'culture of corruption' and the need to 'drain the swamp' is alive and well among the Democrats.
Roy, stop pretending to be a complete moron. The exchanges with the 17-year-old were found to be completely innocent. Completely appropriate. End of story.
Now if you'd like to talk about lawmakers who ACTUALLY broke the law, let's address David Vitter and Larry Craig. Neither of whom were told to step down.
Hurray for Weinergate; it just doesn't get any better than watching the likes of Toasty McGrath and her left-wing perverts' rights group defending this pathetic little dweeb’s right to make a total ass of both himself and the Democratic Party! Ya gotta love it!
This should not be a matter for party politics, this piece of dogs**t brings Congress into disgrace. For that reason alone he should be gone. If he refuses to resign then the two House Leaders should get together and simply boot him out.
Draining the swamp has to start somewhere and the Democrats may as well treat themselves to the high ground (if you'll excuse the pun) and punt one of their own.
For those who like slogans, how about:
SLEAZY STUNT = INSTANT PUNT
Weiner needs a new line of work, maybe he can audition as a male pole dancer in a scruffy tavern somewhere.
Toasty - you take first prize for naivety as usual... nothing regarding the 17yrd has been found even remotely "appropriate" and that is why the Dems are changing their tune... they see the writing on the wall.
"Authorities said the teen didn't say anything about illegal conduct."
"The teen has been interviewed and disclosed no information regarding any criminal activity."
The 17 yr old simply didn't volunteer anything to the police, not even remotely close to proving appropriateness.
Vitter did not lie about the prostitutes he told the truth about being with prostitutes 7 to 8 years earlier. Is Vitter scum yes, but at least he was man enough to admit it and he didn't try to get someone else in trouble with the law by falsely accusing them of a crime.
PJ, I know you WANT there to have been something inappropriate, but the fact is that there is no evidence even suggesting it. I mean, I could make the same accusations about you, and I have exactly as much evidence as you have on him.
In any case. Why don't you call for Vitter's resignation?
Vitter did not lie about the prostitutes he told the truth about being with prostitutes 7 to 8 years earlier. Is Vitter scum yes, but at least he was man enough to admit it and he didn't try to get someone else in trouble with the law by falsely accusing them of a crime.
During the campaign, Vitter was accused by a member of the Louisiana Republican State Central Committee of having had a lengthy affair with a prostitute in New Orleans. Vitter responded that the allegation was "absolutely and completely untrue" and that it was "just crass Louisiana politics.
Yeah, he told the truth just as Anthony Weiner did, when there was no other way to deny the allegations. The difference is that paying for a prostitute in Washington DC is illegal. Texting people is not.
While the Louisiana state Republican Party offered guarded support,[39] national Republicans offered forgiveness.[40]The Nation predicted that the Republican Party would be in a "forgiving mood", pointing out if Vitter did step down, then Governor of Louisiana, Kathleen Blanco, a Democrat, would likely appoint a Democrat to take Vitter's place until a special election took place, thus increasing Democratic control over the Senate.[41][42][43]
Republican Senator Sam Brownback told Bloomberg Television on October 5, 2007, that Vitter should be censured by the Senate. He said, "I think you could see something like that taking place. If you look at the actual crime itself and the discussion across the country– and as a Republican– this is bad."[44]
In a similar vein when the Eliot Spitzer prostitution scandal — Spitzer being then governor of New York — hit the headlines, commentators contrasted the end-results: Spitzer resigned while Vitter stayed on.[45][46][47] In response, Jeff Crouere, a New Orleans conservativepolitical commentator, called on Vitter to resign, saying he was an ineffective representative and reflected poorly on the state.
For everyone who does not understand the severity of this I will explain. If you lie to the general public about something as a congressman it is wrong(Telling everyone that you had been hacked when you know full well that you are lying). Then you turn around and throw someone and their career under the bus(telling everyone that you were hacked, and the culprit is a blogger that is critical of you, even though you know that he had nothing to do with it). Last, if you did approach underage girls, there is no excuse, it is, and always will be illegal...any questions?
Since you wish to make this a Republican vs Democrat issue, please consider the following:
Republican Senator John Ensign didn't quit until just prior to his ethics hearing, more than a year after public release of his adultery with his employee (and his wife's best friend). Republicanpresidential candidate Santorum warned Ensign about the story breaking after Ensign's mistress's husband asked him for advice in an email. Republican Senator Tom Coburn helped Ensign arrange a $96,000 bribe from Ensign's parents.
You should also explain why Republican Senator Larry Craig completed his term after his restroom adventure and why Republican Senator David Vitter not only finished his term but was re-elected after multiple adventures with whores. You might also remember how when Republican Representative Mark Foley was caught stalking Congressional pages the Republicans circled the wagons as the story stretched out for several weeks. Pages, in case you didn't know, are high school students.
At least Weiner didn't drag his wife on stage for his apology and further embarrass her. Ensign did. Vitter did. Craig did.
No, ScubaGolfJim, I don't wan to talk about Vitter; he's not the subject here, Weenie is. Your typical lib tactic of deflection is transparent as hell. If you want to discuss past sinners, let's talk about a real lawbreaker, Charlie Rangel. You can go first.
Anyone seriously trying to explain away this behavior as legal or ok as it is private has never held a position of responsibility. When you are a part of the Congress of the US we DO hold you to a standard. You get paid well, lifetime benefits, and control a portion of trillions in spending every year.
Are there more like him in Congress? Absolutely. Do we want low-lifes like weiner in a position of power? Absolutely not.
As for treatment - I didn't realize there is treatment for being a sleazebag.
This is very typical of the Liberal sleeze of "do as I say, not as I do" as we saw under the Impeached Clinton after he stated, on Brodcast TV, saying "I did not have sex with that Woman, Miss Lewinski(sp?)." The message that Teens got from that was that Oral Sex was not sex, and immediatly began the practice, because "the President said it wasn't sex!!!"
Kennedy kept a Harem, Edwards insulted his Wife, while She was Dying from Cancer, with illicit Sex, and is now indicted for using Campaign funds to pay her, His gal pal, off, and the list goes on. When will the Left understand that saying "I'm sorry" is not an acceptable answer?
Weiner must pay the price, and leave or have Congress expel him, he is a sorry excuse for a Man, let alone a role model and Law maker, out, Sir, and take Pelosi and Reid with you, very fastly.
Yes, the Right has had some problems also in the past, with Gary Hart and the Ex-speaker, but they did the "RIGHT" thing and resigned immediatly, they did not try to live a lie. This "Man" is a sex offender and child molester, by his own account with the Legislation he supported to protect just the Peoplke he is violating. Treat him as any Child Molester and sex offender: Prison, then PERMANENT Registration as a Sex offender, forever.
Place the same punishment that a comman Person, Male or Female, would get: Long term Prison, no Benefits from Congress, and surrender his Seat IMMEDIATLY!!!!
If he is treated any differently, then we will all know that the Leftist Agenda protects Sex offenders and Molesters.
Whine, cry, call me names and lable me, but you have to admit he was caught being a "weiner" with Children under the age of 18, over the Internet(Tweets go through the internet as they are broadcast), and then make his Crime a FEDERAL OFFENSE!!!!!
I'll be Censored by "collapse/delete" because the left will not accept the truth. Had he been a Republican, the Left would call for Immediate Impeachment, as they have in the past.......and the offenders "Head on a Platter", but for them, this is just hunky-dorey. Shame on Congress, and Weiner, for ttrying to cover this up as usual, no special privelege for Him, just Prison, loss of ALL benefits and retirement, then lifelong GPS Ankle bracelets.
Toasty, I know that you and I look at things from very different perspectives, but I do agree with you about Vitter and company. Any man who cannot rule over himself is unfit to rule over you or me whether or not he broke written laws.
He "publicly" accused a professional reporter/blogger of the FELONY of hacking his Twitter account, which he knew were false accusations! That elevates the "lie" to new heights!
He's going to get treatment? FOR WHAT? You can't get treatment for being a douche bag, a liar, or because you act like some a$$hole 12 year old! Just GTF outta here... no one wants you around, jerkoff!
"Really, which is worse? Lying in a stupid attempt to protect your reputation (DUMB move by Weiner) or being a lying hypocrite about breaking the law in addition to adultery against your self-proclaimed "family values" stance? I'll take the former over the latter any day."
Jimmy, I think you would take the one with the D after their name, even if they were an ax murderer.
Weiner was not a respected member of Congress.... by either party! No one likes him! Even the democrats thinks he's obnoxious... but only tolerated him because he's the equivilent of an enforcer in hockey. His role is to go out and bend the rules to damage the opposition... nothing more! He's a bully on the Hill.... and a liberal vote! He need to resign and Pelosi should too...!
The democrats want and need to cut their losses quickly because this story won't go away! The longer it festers the more damage! They have abandoned the Weiner man! That's it in a nutshell, with emphasis on the nut.
Toasty (Toasty?) why do you even keep posting such nonsense? Really!
Geez Don, if you want to talk about humiliating their wives by dragging them on stage, think Spitzer and McGreevy. They both did exactly that, just in case you forgot about those dems. Stop being such a weenie yourself.
having no moral standards, restraints, or principles; unaware of or indifferent to questions of right or wrong: a completely amoral person.
This would fit the description of Weiner and several other politicians we know. This is a characteristic of many in the entertainment business... but more and more it has also become a characteristic of our politicians! Power corrupts and the beltway politicians have lots of power.
Scuba..................>>So again, we must settle for the "lesser of evils?" No wonder this country has become mediocre, at best.
And you call yourself Optomyst? That's brave there buddy! :) But doesn't it seem like that in most elections nowadays, local, state and national, primaries and generals?
An "ethics" investigation, put on by the government? An oxymoron if I have ever heard one.
He is clear minded enough to understand he is stupid.
He knew he was stupid before and after his acts of stupidity.
Does anyone really believe that getting Tweetment for his Twittering problem will make him less stupid in the decision making process for future critical issues facing the nation?
To be a surgeon, lawyer, engineer, auto-mechanic, hair dresser… there is a mandatory test before you are allowed to even try to practice.
Yet in our political process there is no test at all, you can be a immature mathematically challenged illiterate and still be entrusted with making decision that not only effect everyone in the USA, but the entire world… as long as your rich enough to afford handlers who do not care about anything past their pocket, and have the backing of one of the two stupefied US political parties.
We need a verifiable test given to anyone who garners enough signatures to run for any office BEFORE they are pushed down the throats of the American voters.
getthefacts....Vitter LIED period. He campaigned on family values/religeous right ideals, then was having sex with prostitutes which was living a lie.
The only reason why he confessed was because his name was found in the DC Madam's phonebook and his hippocrisy was going to be made public.
Regarding Weiner..... I do not recall that he lied when the pics/sext was first made known by Breitbart.
It makes one wonder if Brietbart was not behind that conservo warning group started - a few months back- on social media warning those who were following Weiner about his sexting and even to try to get a teenager to invite weiner to accompany her to the prom - or something like that, per an article that was on the net yesterday. Hmmm
Weiner was not the one that was saying he did not send the sext originally if I am not mistaken.
If I remember correctly he stated that he was not sure, he was going to have an internet firm check into the matter. The media kept pushing the matter asking him to difinitively state whether he sent the sexting or not.
Frankly it seem that just because the media state that the guy lied does not mean that he did. Just because a person does not answer a question does not mean that they are lying.
In this day and age it is possible that the pics could have been altered to show something that he had not sent in the first place, thus he would be admitting to doing something that he did not do.
What if the pics had been altered to show his 'member' unclothed.... then he would be admitting to sending a pic of his naked member, but did he sext pics of his naked penis?
Until the matter was investigated to find out what pic he was being accused of sexting ..... he waffled and initially stated that he was not sure if it was of him.....i.e. his penis shots. So where is the lie?
Regarding these democrats calling for his resignation..... that is their perogative.... they can ask for whatever they like, does not mean the person- who was elected by his constituents- have to do as these other democrats ask.
Weiner is not an employee of the democratic party... so it would be in these other congress people in the democratic party interest to just shut it and get on with more important business, like jobs, the debt ceiling, the cost of the wars and rebuilding of other countries while this country goes to hell in a hand basket imo.
One could say that both parties are being precious and pretentious.
Both parties are probably happy about this sexting thing, because they can publicly beat up on Weiner - to give the impression that they are doing the hard work i.e. addressing the various important issues facing this country, in Congress when in actuality they are not imo.
Even if Weiner should resign, the big problems like job creation, jumpstarting the economy, the debt ceiling, the draining cost of the wars, the crumbling infrastructure, the need to raise taxes on the rich and to remove the tax breaks and subsidies being given to corporations who do not need it would not be addressed.
This is just another slight of hand/red herring to take the masses eyes off the fiscal immorality of the Ryan republoconteabagdino budget plan which skrws the masses and take away all their public safety nets like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid etc and the work of these folks to take away all our rights -like to privacy, abortion, a woman's right to make decisions about her own body- etc if not at the federal level then at the state and local level.
Just like when the Ryan repuboconteabag budget plan came out the beltway/mainstream media was talking about Ryan's gorgeous hair and some other congress person's pex etc. Not a word about what was in the budget until much later when they had no choice but to address the contents of that budget..
The masses are being conned big time period.... We are being made to believe that Weiner sexting is the problem by both sides as they sit there doing nada for the benefit of the masses who need the help.
Well they may as well beat up on Weiner..... otherwise they would be beating up on the poor masses yet again.... talking how lazy and do not want to work the unemployed are, and about the cause of the financial meltdown was due to poor people buying overpriced homes aided and abetted by Fannie mae and Freddie mac blah, blah, blah.... instead of the meltdown was due to pernicious capitalistic greed while playing/gambling with other peoples money and lives while betting that these po folks and investors would lose... LOL
If I was a democrat in Congress I would want Weiner gone too.... after all with his stance on helping the masses, he forces these other folks to pick a side.
If I was a republican conservative teabagger dino in Congress, I would want Weiner gone too.... after all with his stance on helping the masses, he shows that these folks are on the side of corporate big biz rich America period.
Either these polititians are leaders helping the masses and to rebuild America or they are simply shills and empty suits whose purpose is to continue to help corporations/big donors and their agenda at the expense of the masses, and/or are being shown to be straddling the fence with their double speak about the public wanting them to work together i.e. the old bipartisan crap/con, while not doing one thing or the other or anything for that matter.
Weiner has a big mouth when it comes to talking up for the masses, the sexting just show why and how he is so loud/bold...... He has the 'goods' to match. LOL
Now I have had my rant..... So, let he/she who is without sin in thought, word or deed, cast the first stone... hmmm.....
It seems the quarry is still full of stones..... oops LOL
I cant believe that this wiener episode is being used to attack Nancy Pelosi. She is without doubt one of the most effective and attractive members of the house.
I say;
There's either another pelosi that we have not seen yet, or you need to get your eyesight checked. If Moses had seen Nancy there would be another commandment.
I'm a republican who thinks this democrat need not resign.
He did some sleazy things that harmed nobody but his wife. BFD. Just because he is not on "your side," or because his acts are hurting your side politically, folks get on their high moral horse.
Unless you can show me how he used his position to enrich himself or harm the taxpayers, then I view this as his personal problem, and that is none of my business.
Jimmy, I think you would take the one with the D after their name, even if they were an ax murderer.
Well RoniRooRooy you think wrong. I'd take the more capable person, which is almost always the one with a D after their name. Most of those with the R's are such hypocritical idiots they don't know what they said the previous week, even when it's on videotape.
Now the GOP/cons want to get the (non-axe) murderer from Texas to run for President? First he kills a man convicted with false evidence (well, the second or third by some counts), covers up the murder by firing those on the review board that disagreed with him, and then promotes secession. That's who the cons want? Love It! Bet you'd choose him. Why? Because he used a lethal injection instead of an axe?
In full disclosure: I support the death penalty but not when there is proof of discredited "evidence." Also, if DNA is available, test it. If they're still considered guilty... what are you waiting for?
It is shameful that our elected officials act like buffoons. He has embarrassed himself, his office and his family, why doesn't he resign? Perhaps if he did he might not be so attractive to other women. I cannot understand why a man his age would exchange text messages with a teenager.
I would also like to know why a teenager is texting with a much older, married man? Did her parents never teach her anything? If one of my girls were doing this their phone would be gone!
Is there really therapy for being an immature idiot?
Please, for the sake of he nation, base your judgement on something other than a D or an R. The evil will come like a wolf in the night to find you. That wolf can come wearing an R or a D, in the current manifestation it is a D and he is black, the previous manifestation he wore an R and was white, in the previous manifestation he played a saxophone and was having his twinkie gagged on by a bimbo.
For the sake of this great nation, open your eyes and realize what is going on. Consider this a request from a loyal American Patriot. Drop the Bi-partisan, define right and wrong under the Constitution, then look at what the currently elected politicians are doing. How could anyone in their right mind vote for 95% of them?
Toasty, would you have a problem with him talking to YOUR 17 yr old daughter? What does a 47 yr old pervert (already established) need to talk to a 17 yr old girl about?
Stop trying to deflect…the typical liberal response….This isn’t about Vitter, it’s about Weiner showing his wiener and then lying about it and trying to get another man in trouble over it…what if you were the other man? Would you be so quick to defend?
Didn't you get the liberal memo....about face and attack!
First of all, he obviously has difficulty understanding right from wrong. Apparently some on this board do as well. He represents the US government and so we should expect a high degree of ethics and morality. He set us all up by lying for nearly a week until he was forced to confess. He would have stayed with the lie if he could have, but his sick behavior was catching up to him.
The best part I think was the fact that he felt obliged to call Bill Clinton to apologize for his behavior. I mean Bill Clinton? The same Bill Clinton that lied to all of us years ago when he had a sexual relationship with a young intern named Monica? That same Bill Clinton deserves an apology? I mean even the left wing comics died laughing over that one.
The dems now say Weiner had few friends and that he was really nobody in the democrat party. I can't tell you how many democrat pundits said nobody outside of NY ever heard of the guy. Oh please.....he was their star. He was ushered out every week to bash the right with his sheer arrogance. He sure as heck didn't have that arrogant tone the other day? Nope, he was forced to apologize even to his enemies.
My question is: What is he getting treatment for? Stupidity? Actually, I'd have to say he does need treatment of a chronic case of liberalism. Maybe he'll learn to see the truth, since that is the only cure for the disease. Maybe he'll take the rest of the House and Senate dems into treatment with him. Only by learning and understanding and willing to do something about the destruction they are causing this country, will they truly be free. Actually, he could really be noble and bring the RINOs with him too.
First of all, he obviously has difficulty understanding right from wrong. Apparently some on this board do as well. He represents the US government and so we should expect a high degree of ethics and morality.
Your first mistake, putting requirements on people because you "think" it should be that way. The only moral and ethics the politicians have is if they get caught.
My opinion, call a spade a spade. Spoiled Jewish brat that only cares about the money. He is in his position because of the money he has access to and nothing about his morals got him there. Being a politician is all about hiding who you are. He unhid what he was hiding.
he will request a short leave of absence from the House of Representatives so that he can get evaluated and map out a course of treatment to make himself well
Give him what NY needs, a long permanent leave. Get evaluated and map out a course of treatment? ROTFLMAO! Damn,the guy started digging a hole with a shovel and now he has the largest excavation company on planet Earth digging. NY don't give a rats a$$ who they elect ole Charlie is proof of that. Johnny said it best, down down down in a ring of fire the flames got higher.
Please, for the sake of he nation, base your judgement on something other than a D or an R. The evil will come like a wolf in the night to find you. That wolf can come wearing an R or a D, in the current manifestation it is a D and he is black, the previous manifestation he wore an R and was white, in the previous manifestation he played a saxophone and was having his twinkie gagged on by a bimbo.
For the sake of this great nation, open your eyes and realize what is going on. Consider this a request from a loyal American Patriot. Drop the Bi-partisan, define right and wrong under the Constitution, then look at what the currently elected politicians are doing. How could anyone in their right mind vote for 95% of them?
To alleviate your "fears," please be assured, as I had in my comment "I'd take the more capable person, which is almost always the one with a D after their name. Most of those with the R's are such hypocritical idiots they don't know what they said the previous week, even when it's on videotape." Notice the almost and most were even italicized for emphasis.
I'd long considered myself to be an Independent. That started changing during the Reagan worship of a moron and intensified during the 90's with all of the hypocritical crap the right-wing pulled on Clinton. I'd rather have a President getting head in the Oval than all of the hypocrites crying to impeach him while they were screwing their mistresses. Trying to legalize the discrimination against homosexuals while some of them were themselves involved in homosexual activities and affairs. Saying they were the party of "individual rights" while simultaneously trying to deny the American people of theirs.
The "wolf" right now is not in the White House. It's the morons that can't deal with a Democratic or Black President. They'd rather see the Nation go into further recession, maybe even a depression, rather than help do the right thing. They cry they want this. Obama agrees that sounds good. Oh NO! We can't do that! These idiots are claiming they didn't even support this or that and the effing cons believe them! THAT'S what makes us "libs" so mad. They're effing BLIND. And these teabaggers trying to wrap themselves in the Constitution don't even know what's in it.
I AM a Veteran and a Patriot. I am still more of an Independent than a "true" Democrat, but I've seen more crap that disgusts me from the R side than from the D side. I had joked here before about how I'm prejudiced against R's. Now I say with sincerity that that is not the case, because prejudice is an unwarranted dislike or hatred. My dislike is no longer unwarranted. It is genuine. But I'd still vote for a person rather than a party.
If Pelosi needs to go( I don't like her, but she hasn't broken the law), then Boehner definitely needs to go.
You can call Weiner a pervert all you want, many women/girls(including some under 18) send nude or racy pics of themselves to friends or potential boyfriends nowadays. Many women want guys who are well endowed and want to verify it beforehand. It's actually common place and becoming the norm. Sending a nude or racy pic by email or tweet, isn't as awful as some are portraying it.
Although I've never sent or taken any nude pics of myself(I'm shy), I don't judge others who do.
It's all of you who have hang ups over nakedness(and hung up over people doing so who aren't yourselves), that are the ones who need to take a hike.
I've known many women who looked 21 and over, who were under 18. If they are promiscous on their own, are you going to try and blame a guy for "corrupting their innocence"?
Before I got married, I made sure to start checking ID of the girls I went out with. In Costa Rica they graduate high school at 16 and are in college by 17.
I married a women 10 years younger than myself(she was 26 and I was 36 when we met). We never sent nude pics to each other, but I won't say that those who do are perverted.
Weiner never should have lied.
He just should have said it's not anyones business but his, his wife's, and whoever received the tweets/texts.
Nobody who represents us can have a high degree of ethics and morality, because that would disqualify that person from accurately representing us. Morality is a lie we all wish were true.
It's too bad the Republicans do not know how to "man-up" when they have done something wrong as a public official. Nancy Pelosi has done nothing immorally wrong to resign, other than to be a deep thorn in the side of Republicans by getting a task done.
Apparently, he's doing as he darn well pleases, the self-serving and cocky jackass. It's time ALL members of Congress developed a spine and acted on this as a body. Follow protocol, darnit!
You allow these nutcases to preen in front of the cameras following their extremely shoddy actions, and now this! Americans are sick of the infantile stupidity of congressional members--all at the expense of their constituents.
I see red when I think that this egotistical megalomaniac is paid with taxpayers money and receiving a wonderful health and retirement package to boot! I personally do not care if he's tight with Charles Schumer and the Clinton's. Get him out of there!
Oh really, Weiner is going to take a leave of absence and go into Rehab.
Weiner is "dust"---he still doesn't knows it yet; he is such a phony, probably believing all Americans still love him; and he will be back at his job!
The fact is; People such as Weiner, and others who have a perverted sexual addiction CANNOT be cured!---they are put in the category of "like" Pedophiles, who cannot be rehabilitated, either.
He'll have to take a massive amount of Anti-Depressants and therapy for the rest of his life to be somewhat of a tamed down, low testerone male who is a predator..
Poor Huma. She must be humiliated. This could be the first step to dumping this pathological liar and cheat.
Pres. Obama gave him the "boot"; that's the only way he would ever understand he's not needed anymore
So I guess nobody cares about my original comment. I guess I should have prepared for that but I will remind everyone that anybody who applies to Target (an example, there are countless more) Corporation has to take a GOVERNMENT MANDATED DRUG SCREENING, whereas our elected officials don't have to take one before, after or anytime during their time as one of the most important people in the country.
All I'm saying is if we REALLY have such high moral demands of our representatives that "weinergate" is such a mega huge deal, we should at least drug test them.
I'm a little confused here.... People want him to resign because he is a Man and looks at porn and sends pics of himself? So... is every Man in the US gonna resign from their jobs, cause come on, that's what men do. If you say you don't look at porn and your a man, then your a hypocrite. I mean lets get serious here. What the guy does on his own time is none of my business, just as long as he does what he is supposed to do when he is on our time. People.. grow some and quit wining about the little stuff. Keep your eye on the big picture.
Michelle 1.2 - you failed to read or grasp this part of the post
Sleaze is not confined to any one party.
A once or twice done mistake is one thing - a pattern is another - there is no guarrantee that therapy will solve this, this can take years to resolve, and it is difficult to tell when someone is faking recovery. Addicted people usually know what they are doing is wrong - so they will do anything to appear normal and try to do anything to appear "normal".
He needsto resign - get provably well - then return.
Also, keep in mind what Major League Baseball players say. "There is nothing like being in the majors . . . you will do anything to stay or make it back.
"treatment" is just a BS word for laying low. This guy has to go. I love this quote "he didn't do anything indecent or unacceptable". LOL I think contacting a 17 year old, sending nude pictures to her, as a 45 year old Congressman is quite UNACCEPTABLE, how about you? Is the bar that low now? Are we that pathetic to think this is acceptable from our employee?, which Weiner is, he is OUR employee.
This happens in both parties, but usually the republicans empty the trash quicker, not always, but most of the time. Rangel who by the way should have been forced to resign already gives the republicans a heads up on this issue. Vitter from New Orleans visiting a prostitute, big deal, it's New Orleans. Lousiana and corruption are bed fellows. Weiner trolling for college girls is a whole different matter, and lying about being hacked IS A CRIME. He's brought shame o Congress, end of story. The longer he stays the worse it is for democrats, and if you think this thing is going away, it's not.
By refusing to resign, I'm sure he thinks he's following in the footsteps of his mentor - Bill Clinton. He's saying to himself "If Bill Clinton could just wait it out, so can I".
By the way - whatever happened to Monica Lewinsky"
The sexting doesn't matter. The sex in the Oval Office didn't matter. Hitting on other men in an airport restroom didn't matter. Lying about it does. It doesn't matter what party they belong to, proven liars should be immediately removed from positions of trust and authority.
Your taxpayer dollars at work. Millions in this country without health care insurance, but Weiner gets to take advantage of the elite insurance plan offered to Congress so that he can get treatment for being a sleaze.
Weiner,Pelosi,Reid,Dodd Frank, Rangel,Franklin,Jackson-Lee,the entire Black Caucus,(I thought "representatives" were elected to "represent" the best interests of all the people ,not to form racist cabals),the Progressive Caucus,(ditto with the radical socialists),the radical environmentalists,(ditto. ditto),Yes Dems, You best use some caution, once You start asking all those who have disgraced themselves to leave, You just might put Yourselves out of business.
Is 'getting treatment' the new way to be a Faux Christian?
You know, all the 'Christians' who want people to die and then go to church asking forgiveness, only to do the same thing the next week? Better yet, the 'ministers' who do the same thing?
Can I 'get treatment' for anything bad I do? Can I kill someone and go 'get treated?' How about not pay my taxes? Cheat on my wife?
The answer is yes! Thank you politicians for showing me that I have unnecessarily been acting 'morally.' Through your example, I now fully understand that these urges are beyond my control and I can do them, as long as I 'get treated,' afterwards.
The media portray Weiner as a "left-winger" but he really isn't. There are no real left wingers in office (no, not even that blow hard from Vermont, Bernie Sanders).
The "left wingers" you see on TV etc are designated leftists. They are to the left of the far right who are well represented in the corporate media.
Someone to left of Fox News or Ann Coulter is not necessarily a leftist because the middle is also to the left of those people (actually if this were pre WWII many avowed "conservatives" like Coulter would be proud and outspoken fascists)
Pre WWII (and pre Israel and the alliance between zionists and the Right-wing) can you imagine Ann Coulter and others of her political and social views NOT loving, Adolf Hitler and Mussolini?
So, he is getting treatment for a hard-on and being horny? Let me guess, more sugar in his diet, more GMO foods and more vaccines?? That should do it...
I have always leaned Republican, but what right does Nancy Pelosi have to tell anyone to do anything, she is one of the biggest wastes of air in congress. She got removed as speaker and still would not go away; she is the one that needs to resign.
Tree Hugger... not sure what world you live in but one thing is clear it is not the REAL WORLD.... Nancy Pelosi is nothing but a self-serving glory hound...
In case you missed it, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi had a hilarious op-ed column in Politico last week. In the column, the Speaker recounted her past achievements and laid out her plans for the future. It was a rewriting of history that would make George Orwell proud.
For obvious reasons, Pelosi starts her story as the leader of the 111th Congress, ignoring the fact that she was also Speaker of the House during the 110th Congress during the Bush administration. From the time Pelosi took that job and started along her agenda until now, the economy has lost 6.3 million jobs and unemployment went from 4.6% to 10%. Good job, Madame Speaker.
"Treehuger" your comment:Nancy Pelosi has done more for America than most politicians and much more than lawline has done by voting for Republicans!
When Pelosi and Reid took office in 2006, the first thing they did was to stop ANY program, except the Border Patrol, from keeping the Illegals OUT!!!! Next, they, together, RAIDED the U.S.Treasury as it had never been done before, putting America, now, about $14 TRILLION DOLLARS in debt, with no way to pay!!!!
They fight the House and Senate on EVERY Bill the Republicans try to get passed, and then blame the Republicans for not passing the Bill.
Now, if the Left, Pelosi, Reid, Obama, and Hillary had done so well, just how can you explain the Flood of Illegal, Prostitutes, Pimps, Gang Bangers, Murders, and drug Dealers flooding America against our CONSTITUTION, Art 4., Sect 4?
Yep, Pelosi aand reid did exactly what the Left want, they DESTRYOED America, and now try to blame the Right.
Collapse/delete, name call and lable me, but it is the Historical truth as to what the Left has done since 2006 and Pelosi and Reid.
Treehugger, go hug a Tree, because all you are doing here is embarrasing yourself with blatant, provable Lies, just as you, the Left, have done for generations.....
Nancy is trying to safeguard the image of the Democratic party. She knows that this will hurt them even worse if he does not get out. Rangal could stay because the incidents were limited, and having a popular minority in a powerful position promotes the image the party they want.
I believe the appropriate term for Pelosi's actions are "situational ethics".
He won't resign. They will have to hogtie him and drag him out. As I mentioned elsewhere, he is amoral and self-centered. By his actions (after he fessed up--not the twitters to women) he clearly considers himself to be "too important" to leave congress. His last name certainly fits his (lack of) character.
Here's the endgame of that aylortays: "As long as the individual supports my political viewpoint, who cares what he does?" That is the very essence of being amoral. That's how Teddy K, Rangel, Frank, et. al. stuck around.
I hate to see him go, but go he must. Vitter should already have been gone. Weiner just pulled a weiner move. Stupid and regrettable. Vitter committed activities, including utilizing a whoe. Whether that should be legal or not is like weed; right or wrong, it is illegal.
There is a difference between degrees of error between these macho men's publicly known and proven, unacceptable actions.
(I really mean they shouldn't have allowed themselves to be caught)
Stay put Weiner. You're still more respectable than any repugnocant I know of.
Good one, SCUBAJim!
I don't really care about Weiner, but since we're all so concerned with being stand-up guys and gals, I will use this time and space to call for all congressmen and women to submit to a drug test.
Still the Best Post of the Day, Kyle! But The Beev's is a close second!!
Whip it good Weiner. Come join all us poor saps you and your merry band of idiots in congress have legislated out of work. Mac Donald's is hiring, but in your case I think operating your own hot dog stand peddling your wares to the babes on the beach is more up your alley. The "loaded foot-long" could be your best seller.
All this makes me wonder why we don't love capital punishment.
Does anybody believe Weiner should be forgiven? Does anybody believe he should be in charge of anything from now on? Would anyone be sad if he committed suicide over this?
No? Then what's the point of living? Just kill him now. Why waste treatment on him? Everyone hates him, just kill him now. People like this can and should never recover. Just kill him now.
The really amusing part of this is that Dems don't want him to resign because what he did was imoral or because he used government equipment to phone some of these girls, they want him to resign because he gets in the way of their attack machine by sucking up all the airwaves.
Too funny and very indicative of the moral standard or lack thereof of the left.
Look at the positively illegal and self serving things some of their members have done, like Barney Franks prostitute ring run out of his basement, and they're not required to resign.
When will we as Americans go to the polls with blood in our eyes and vote all these scum-sucking vermon out of office.Yes,both parties need a good ENEMA!We,as a nation,need to become one mind,not left/right, and clean house.Who cares if our good ol boys and girls can't get us money and/or entitlements,they need to go,and go NOW!Look what this is becoming,and allready is! You can only fix this STUPID at the voting booth.So,go fix it!
Whip it good Weiner. Come join all us poor saps you and your merry band of idiots in congress have legislated out of work. Mac Donald's is hiring, but in your case I think operating your own hot dog stand peddling your wares to the babes on the beach is more up your alley. The "loaded foot-long" could be your best seller.
Good God, Toasty...Shut the hell up about Vitters already. You've only talked about him on practically every post you've made. Is that the only argument you've got? It's just plain weak.
I am a Republican but I don't want people like Vitter in Congress either because he certainly doesn't represent my beliefs or values. I don't care how many times they apologize or seek "treatment". Unlike you, I want and expect my representatives to rise above the D.C. cesspool regardless of the party to which they might belong.
This entire article and, therefore, comments are SPECIFICALLY about Congressman Weiner and his actions.
Defend him if you want but I hope you can bring more to the table than your incessant whining about Vitters.
It's the only argument I need, Glo. You can't have the double standard of saying the one guy cheating on his wife must resign, but the convicted criminal shouldn't have to. I mean, I understand why you don't like me bringing it up; you have no answer for it. But you can't keep sticking your heads int he ground when someone points out your own hypocrisy.
And for the record, I not only think Vitter was right in not resigning, I also believe that prostitution should be legalized. I don't care about him, I care about the hypocritical response of the teabaggers to his actions.
Apparently YOU can't read. I clearly said Vitters needs to go. I don't have a double standard and you can't defend Weiner so you need to keep trying to change the conversation.
Well, to both of you, Clinton set the bar that cheating on your wife does not impact your political career. It is not against your oath of office. If you actually look at what cheating on your spouse is..it is a CIVIL and not CRIMINAL action. There is no law against cheating in a civil union..it just violates the civil union.
Where were both of you when Clinton was getting oral gratification? Bi-Partisan politics are the worst thing to happen to this country. It causes you to lose your morals because it is the R and D you cheer for...not the man woman. It is like every post I make I am talking to children.
We don't vote for people based on their political careers. What do we remember Clinton for? Some vague "economy was good" thing? CRA, TARP, some other acronym he may or may not have anything to do with?
Presidents get credit for and are remembered by only the things that don't fall in the spectrum of their political control. Most of those things were either private or the fault of congress or a number of other unavoidable factors. The same goes for congressmen: when have we ever judged them retrospectivelybased on their political careers? Politics is not in the public consciousness. We don't understand it and we don't care about it; we just pretend that we do by substituting irrelevant topics that we do understand that have nothing to do with whether a person is actually fit to do a good job as a politician.
Toasty: Nice to try the blame game. Reminds me of the kid who whines to his parents who won't let him go to a party. "Well, Ronnie's parents let him go so why can't I?" Nice attempts at diversion, Vitter is bad and he's not being asked to resign. Then there was "I never had sex with that woman" liar-in-chief Clinton who also didn't resign. Either you're being wilfully obtuse or fail to grasp the situation. Weiner goes on camera and attempts to pass legislation against using the internet for inappropriate contacts with children. He claims the moral high ground in public and behind closed doors he's a perv. All of these stalwart politicians should have resigned since their actions bring shame to the office they were elected to hold.
Nice how you manage to toss in the teabagger meme again and again and again......Why are you so afraid of the tea party? Nevermind, I think I already know the answer to that one.
June 10, 2009—James W. von Brunn, a convicted felon and a “hardcore Neo-Nazi,” walks into the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C. and shoots and kills a security guard. Von Brunn believed that Western civilization was going to be replaced with a “ONE WORLD ILLUMINATI GOVERNMENT” that would “confiscate private weapons” in order to accomplish its goals.
March 23, 2010—After Mike Troxel of the Lynchburg Tea Party and Nigel Coleman of the Danville Tea Party post the home address of the brother of Rep. Tom Perriello (D-VA) and urge supporters to "drop by," someone deliberately cuts a propane gas line at the house. Rep. Perriello is targeted by the Tea Party activists because of his vote in favor of health care reform. Perriello's brother and his wife have four children under the age of eight.
January 8, 2011—Jared Lee Loughner, 22, shoots U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ) and 19 others at a "Congress in Your Corner" event at a Safeway supermarket in Tucson, Arizona. He kills six, including federal judge John Roll, and wounds 14, including Giffords, who is shot in the head. Loughner has an extensive history of mental illness and substance abuse, yet is able to purchase two handguns and a high-capacity ammunition magazine legally at Sportsman's Warehouse on November 30, 2010. In a YouTube video posted in December 2010, Loughner states, "You don’t have to accept the federalist laws ... Nonetheless, read the United States of America’s Constitution to apprehend all of the current treasonous laws."
Nice that you get your quotes from an anti-gun website. Also nice that much of what is mentioned has nothing to do with the teaparty. Stack was an avowed liberal, McVeigh died before the teaparty ever existed, Loughner has been declared insane and his ramblings incoherent, pro-gun activists are not teaparty members in the sense that the original premise of the Taxed Enough Already party was about government spending being out-of-control.
Perhaps you could include the actions of the SDS, the Weathermen, the violent members of the 'green movement', the New Black Panthers, the contemporary members of radical socialist movements calling for the violent overthrow of the government, La Raza, Code Pink, and a host of other 'liberal' violence proponents in your selective biases.
MG, if you think that the Tea Parties are anything other than a renaming of the same ultra-conservative movement we've seen for decades, you're living in a fantasy world. It was literally just a name change invented to give the same movement a "grassroots" look when the insurance companies needed astroturf to oppose health care reform. These folks fit that whole continuum.
" Pelosi has asked the House Ethics Committee to investigate whether Weiner used any government resources. He has said he does not believe he did""
This is the same guy the could not recognize his own penis, with certitude. New Yorkers are such losers if they keep this "lawmaker" in office. Are you kidding us?
Patty, we would be in a lot better shape in NY if we didn't lose 20 cents off every dollar we sent the feds to other states getting back more than they put in.
Virginia, we pretty much support a lot of the rest of the country with the taxes we pay. Check out the size of the CA economy in comparison:
From Wikipedia: "California's economy is the eighth largest economy in the world[1], if the states of the U.S. were compared with other countries.[2][3] As of 2008, the gross state product (GSP) is about $1.85 trillion, which is 13% of the United States gross domestic product (GDP)."
VA has a decent tech center, but if deleted the FED-generted economy from VA, it would pale next to CA.
So, I'll keep on bragging about my home state. (Or perhaps you would like us to leave the union if we are such a drag on the rest of the country? Want to know what that would do to the US budget deficit?)
It is 2011 and California is almost bankrupt because of the illegals and the MILLIONS being paid in Government employee pensions that were set up by Jerry Brown years ago!
Maybe in part at least because the smart folks moved away from the shrinking mountains being raped by the coal companies and the others are too busy fornicating their siblings to file for unemployment?
Sorry Patty, so used to hearing the "hillbilly" and "southern trash" comments bandied about I had to let one go myself. ;)
Since you are not familiar with the ability to Copy/Paste, I will assume that you also do not understand the use of grammatical symbols and punctuation marks to convey meaning. A ;) combination is a "winking smiley," as if I were saying something to your face, usually in jest, with a "wink" to further acknowledge it being said in jest.
So, here we go. Welcome to class...
You need to check your map.....and quit calling people "Hillbillies"
# 1.....you are talking about West Virginia Coal, NOT Virginia Beach! And those people work their azz off and also give their lives!
I was referring to the entire Commonwealth of Virginia, not just Virginia Beach. (You did know there was more to the state than just your city, right? I'd hate to be the one to further burst your bubble.) Mining in Virginia includes coal, slate, and gravel, as well as other ores and minerals. Over $2 billion worth in recent years. (So who needs to check their map? Or maybe just learn a little about the state in which they live?)
And yes, those miners do sometimes give their lives, usually when the mine owners take shortcuts and ignore OSHA Regulations designed to protect those miners. They deserve to be protected from the big businesses that take out their own life insurance policies (with the company as beneficiary) against the miners' lives when the miners themselves can't afford to pay for one themselves, and then kill them with their "oversight" on safety and security.
#2......you are a hateful person to call coal miners "southern trash"
I wasn't calling coal miners "southern trash" but simply referring to the usual rhetoric directed at those of us living in true southern states. (BTW... 'that means 'By The Way' by the way' you're a hateful person for calling me a hateful person.)
#3.....YOU should go play Golf with NoBama!
"NoBama... War Eagle!" Isn't that a cheer at Auburn (as in No AlaBama. I really hate having to explain everything to you.)? BTW (see above for explanation) I would LOVE to play a round of golf with our President, Barack Obama. Might you want to go quail hunting with Dickyboy Chaingang? (That's Dick Cheney to you) Might want to wear face protection.
AND..........Virginia unemployment is definitely 5.7%.....Where do you live, Nasty person?
As I said, maybe the smart people left, because if you're an example of what's left, maybe the stereotypes are true. Say hi to your brother-husband for me. Or is that husband-brother? Not really like a sister-wife is it? I don't know, we don't really practice that in my southern state, people just like to say we do, usually in jest, and with a | ;) | wink.
Oh I'm such a Nasty person you even capitalized the word Nasty. Good for you. You learned how to use capital letters. Guess they were used on typewriters though, weren't they?
Which ones are YOU quoting? It's 6.1% in Virginia, since we're using numbers here. Since you're giving out numbers in your defense, please be accurate with them.
And yes, they've mis-identified Virginia and West Virginia on the map, but the numbers are accurately notated.
I thought he should've resigned for the lying(could've cared less about the pictures), but now I think the guy should stay just to give the finger to the rest of congress!
Lying and getting caught in a lie are two different things. We can assume a politician is lying when their lips move, but we have to take it for the truth unless they are caught in a lie.
Not only was Weiner caught in a lie but falsely accusing someone else of a crime is not something to take lightly.
Weiner, Vitter, and Pelosi, plus any elected official caught lying to the public (who they are supposedly representing) need to resign. If they do not have morals and honor they should at least be able to fake it for the time they are in office. If they cannot at least pretend to (have morals/honor) while "serving" they do NOT need to be in office. If they do not resign then we need to remove them and if anything they have done would be prosecuted if it was a normal American citizen then they also need to be prosecuted.
Actually any elected representative, assigned Supreme court justice found not "... preserving, protecting and defending the Constitution of the United States"as per the Oath of Office they all take should be fired; and weakening the Constitution is NOT doing what they can to (as is the first and most important part of their job, which is why it is in the Oath they take) "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
How many times you gonna bring up Vitter Toasty? Two wrongs don't make a right. I know you are smarter than that. You also bring up this Craig guy, is he the one that was accused of sticking his foot in the other guys stall? What was ge guilty of being homosexual? or maybe attemting to solicit sex? I just don't understand how you defend Weiner by crying about others mistakes..This is about Weiner and not about keeping score of republican and democratic scandels. (I am not anti-gay for the record I was making a point about your lack of fairness in your posts)
Until I get these teabaggers to admit to their double standard.
David Vitter and Larry Craig both committed crimes (although I think that neither should actually be crimes), while Wiener did not, yet somehow only he should be forced to resign. I honestly think that none of the three should resign or have resigned. The lack of fairness is in other peoples' views.
It's not just about Vitter, the philandering "family values" US Senator from Louisiana. It's about how it's OK if you are a Republican.
It just doesn't matter whether it's prostitutes, Lying us into a war over non-existent WMD, exposing CIA operatives, or the $700 Billion TARP scam give-away to investment bankers.
Let's just face it, the GOP sh*t doesn't stink, at least according to any Republican or Teabagger. Just ask them!
Good enough Toasty I see what you are saying although you and I may not posess the higher standards that people expect from their elected leaders. I think the left and right are guilty of double standards though.
I hold my elected leaders to high professional standards, but I have no right to judge their private life. Only the people close to them have that right.
Then when he was "exposed" and lied to the world it became a public matter because we found out he did not live up to those standards. I just don't get why you don't see that. This is the world we live in now and if your ducks are not in a row you will be accountable otherwise don't go into public office taking our money. I can't say why this Vitter guy is still in office myself although I admit I never really followed it closely..just another self-righteous conservative, I guess I just assumed he would voluntarily vacate the office. Oh and his name wasn't Weiner..damn the bad luck lol
You're acting as if it's a politician's choice to go into office. What if Weiner didn't start this until after he was elected? If we have made it so that it's completely unpredictable to elect a person that won't perform a scandal, then there is something wrong with either the way we choose and mold our elected officials, or there is something foolish about our expectations.
PC - Do you thing Thomas Jefferson was incapable of being a good politician and doing what is right for our nation, then? He lied many times about his relationship with a woman to whom he was not married, who fathered his children, and who was his slave. The big point here, as it was with Clinton or JFK or any of the many, many politicians who have participated in sexual indiscretions, is that what they do with their penises has nothing to do with their abilities as governing officials, so long as they were not breaking the law and so long as they are not using tax payers to finance it. Not sure why we're all so damn afraid of sex in this country, but we all spend too much time obsessing about what fellow citizens are doing in the bedroom.
The next shoe is the minors that weiner sexted coming forward with their stories and the following criminal charges. Look at how the police answered the question regarding the 17yr old they "interviewed":
"Authorities said the teen didn't say anything about illegal conduct."
"The teen has been interviewed and disclosed no information regarding any criminal activity."
It's like they didn't even question her about anything specifically.... she didn't "say" anything or "disclose" anything.... nevermind that we didn't ask.
Once the girl gets her lawyers and publicists and paid interviews established then she will have plenty to say.
Once again, PJ, where is the evidence? I could accuse you of inappropriate relations with an underaged girl, and I've have just as much proof as you do about Wiener. I mean, there are a lot of things I could just pull out of thin air and accuse you of with the same amount of evidence.
In fact. PJ, I accuse you of being Hitler's robot attack clone. Now, you haven't specifically disclosed anything either way, but you know what? I'm going to go with it anyway because it's fun.
Why do you keep bringing up Pelosi? Is there some sexual wink wink nudge nudge that everyone's aware of in that direction? Cause I'm not. Is it because she was a speaker of the house? Well, Boehner's the speaker now, AND he has a sexually suggestive name. Even though I've never heard of Boehner doing this kind of thing, should I look to him for the next political scandal?
Yes, PJ. You're starting to verge on libel here by insisting that he has engaged underage girls in sexual activities. You are smearing the reputation of the girl, who was a fan of Weiner's because of his politics, and you are perpetuating a lie only because it suits your paradigm.
Not just any Nazi. The cyborg reincarnation of HITLER HIMSELF! Of course, I have just as much evidence to support that accusation as he had about the seventeen year old, but still...
Sending x-rated photos to under age girl, if I did this I would go to jail see the judge and have to register as a sex offender, but everything is A ok because he a congressman
So he above the laws? next I bet we find out he also a tax cheat
Weiner didn't do a lot of stuff until he was found out and then he confessed. Seems he is one of those who expresses remorse AFTER the fact of getting caught. Think if he hadn't been found out that he would have quit with the pics and sexting? As to improper conduct with a minor, time will tell, Clinton denied his cigar moments with Monica until the little blue dress. Perhaps the teenagers haven't come forward just yet, who knows for certain but generally when someone engages in certain immoral behaviours the odds are their involvements are more intense than first supposed.
Sending x-rated photos to under age girl, if I did this I would go to jail see the judge and have to register as a sex offender, but everything is A ok because he a congressman
It was PG-17 or R, but the fact he lied was his undoing. And if he texted his undies shot, or not, to a 17 year old while married, he is not the guy I want speaking up for 'what is right'. Which, come to think of it, describes most every politician from Bushbama down to Weiner.
Again, you guys keep on using the "IF" argument. There are a lot of things he coule be in trouble for IF he did them. IF he, say, vandalized Air Force One. IF he killed and ate a jewish baby. IF he stole the Space Shuttle and hid it in his volcano island hideout. If we talked about all the "IF" scenarios in the world, we'd never get any sleep. There is NO evidence to support any of those accusations, including that he sent pics to an underaged girl. You just pulled it out of your ass and hoped nobody would call you on it.
They should treat these guys just like law enforcement or teachers. Suspend them with or without pay until the investigation is complete. No telling how long this idiot has been doing this or what kind of pictures will surface next or who will come forward with more of this guys wierdo actions. Also if he hadn't lied he should be reinstated if found innocent after the investigation, or put on trial if evidence of a crime has occurred. The lie will be his undoing once the FBI comes forward and says they began an investigation into the alleged hacking of his files. If the FBI doesn't come forward then there should be some resignations from that department because they aren't doing there job.
Take off the blinders Cathee. Republicans tend to show their lowlife the door rather quickly. Democrats (most recently "good time Charlie" Rangel) don't bother with shame and guilt. (BTW: I am libertarian and I believe both parties stink it up!)
Clearly you're delusional. The Dems are many things, almost none good, but they circle the wagons around their trash far more effectively than the Repubs. Else how to explain the continued presence of Bill Clinton, as a revered elder statesman, Charlie "tax cheat" Rangel, Barney "brothel in my basement" Frank, Nancy "funnel government contracts to my hubby" Pelosi, et al.
Cathee, I don't know what your political agenda is here, but calling all Democrats "gutless cowards" because they want Weiner gone is ridiculous. At this point, just about everybody wants Weiner gone, except Weiner himself and perhaps the Republicans who want to use him for a human dart board in the upcoming elections. Not ALL Republicans--it's really childish to lump all the members of a political party together like you are doing.
The Democrats are validating they are cowards. They are trampling on Weiner's freedom of expression because, HE DID NOT BREAK ANY LAWS.
I support you fully Cathee, all Weiner was doing was giving all liberal women chances to be good subjects and serve the greater good by clicking send on their sexy photos.. How is this wrong? It also isnt illegal to post naked photos so over 40k people can view, thats just progressivism ..
Never mind the pregnant wife at home, mm sounds like liberals and the mid east have more in common than we first thought..
Weiner's issue isn't the pictures, it was the BS he spewed after the revelations broke. His has lost credibility - we can't trust what he says. If he had come clean, then I would agree with you, no laws broken, just REALLy stupid and he has some sorting to do with his wife. But, when he goes on the offensive saying his account was hacked, the need to hire a private investigative team, .., well I draw the line there. That was VERY poor judgement.
Cathee, Cathee, Cathee. Even when you rant (seated quite squarely on a high horse of your own) you make my point. I am not a registered anything politically. As a libertarian I believe in personal responsibility and generosity. To the one given much, much is expected. Each scandal on the left or right shows the amoral character of those in power. If they can't be trusted to do the right thing personally, they certainly don't deserve to hold any kind of power over the American people.
It was stupid. I don't think he has a lot of sorting do with his wife, since she already knew about the women before and after their one year marriage. I don't really blame him for "lying" for one whole week about this. It is really embarrassing and I believe that a lot of people, if not most, would react to being outed like that to the whole world with denials and excuses. No one wants their family, friends and peers so see something so embarrassing. Most men after they cheat, look at porn on the internet, or hit on a girl at the bar would lie about it. I think it is so easy to judge others and make excuses for ourselves. This is all just a distraction from real issues.
You are right, his wife knew before the wedding and still married him. Yes he was embarrassed for himself, his wife and the party.
He did not break any laws. It seems very hard for some people to grasp that concept. His Constituents still support him because he is doing a good job for them.
How many Constituents of his follow Congressmen can or have said they are doing a good job for their districts?
All I ever hear are Complains from the Constituents of these very people on Weiners ass, asking him to resign.
100% a distraction from the REAL IMPORTANT issues about our Country!
cathee - It's ok for you to change your tune and admit that Weiner is a loser, dirtbag. I know it's confusing when something like this forces Dems to acknowledge the stupidity of other Dems, but by following Pelosi's call for Weiner to resign you are still following your "leaders" and so are still a good sheep for them.
Toasty! You're obsessed with Vitter! What gives? This story is about Weiner!
Risha's got it exactly right, Cathee's got it 95% right. Weiner didn't break any laws or violate his oath o0f office by e-mailing lewd pictures of himself to women (with the possible exception of that sweet innocent little 17 year old girl. Lord knows, she most likely has never seen the likes of that and must be protected at all costs, even if that means that her mother is forced to sever her internet connection!!) But Weiner DOES need to go. Has it has been stated here and there, he lied about it when caught. As Risha said, every one of you (me included) would try to lie your way out of it. The difference is he's a Congressman. By demonstrating that he's quite willing to lie, even though he did nothing illegal (with that one possible exception), he has totally forfeited any trust that the people who elected him had in him. The situation between him and his wife is not a legal one, and is exactly that...a situation between him and his wife. As such, that is none of your business any more than the marital situation between you and your spouse is his. I don't think I can state it any more obviously or clearer than that. Anyone who can't understand it is purely politically motivated and totally partisan in their attacks.
Not Vitter so much as the teabaggers' lack of reaction to him. Truth be told, I couldn't care less that he went to a prostitute. Hell, I think prostitution should be legal.
But the very same people who today are demanding that Anthony Wiener resign over a minor marital infidelity are the ones who were SILENT when Vitter committed an actual crime. That's the point I keep bringing up, and the point that the teabaggers almost invariably refuse to address.
And as I've said before, there is no evidence whatsoever that suggests that Wiener said anything inappropriate to the 17-year-old. Hell, she herself said that nothing happened.
You mean the exchange with a 17 year old that has no evidence of inappropriate conduct? I could accuse people of all sorts of things if I could do it without anyone demanding evidence to support it. Hell, I outright accused PJ earlier of being an Adolf Hitler Robot Clone, and I have just as much evidence to defend that accusation as he does about the teenager.
Clearly you're delusional. The Dems are many things, almost none good, but they circle the wagons around their trash far more effectively than the Repubs. Else how to explain the continued presence of Bill Clinton, as a revered elder statesman, Charlie "tax cheat" Rangel, Barney "brothel in my basement" Frank, Nancy "funnel government contracts to my hubby" Pelosi, et al.
One of the best comments ever.
Toasty, I hear what you are saying. But why dramatize it? Innocent until proven guilty and all he is guilty of is breaking a civil union. From my experience in America males either cheat on their spouse or TRY to cheat on them in almost every relationship. It is what it is...a civil thing. We all break promises. If you kick out a politician because he breaks a promise..then we have no politicians. Now if he was decimating in some 17 yr old's digestive track that is completely different and criminal. Remember it has to be under legal age because Clinton proved you can do that and lie about it under oath and it is ok.
Rep Weiner should stay. If Piglosi, Pat Leahy & D. W. Schultz say you should go - you obviously must stay. Leahy leaked secret US documents, Piglosi has stolen from the taxpayor so that her family could party on US planes and Schultz is a dimm-witted blabbermouth who can barely find her way to the House chamber. Weiner should stay - unless he shared pictures of the little head with underage girls.
Yes, why not let both parties run themselves and this country into the ground? That way, we can ensure that they will all be unelectable next cycle. Hey, maybe we will break a record on the low end of voter participation. Maybe then someone from out of state (out of all states) can come in to show us how leading is really done. I'll bet it has something to do with executing all dissenters and consolidating all public power into one post.
That will be up to his constituents at election time, not now.
Normally i would agree with you but the lying and the insinuating that someone else was responsible for his actions makes me wonder if he is capable of being responsible enough and accountable to be a congressman. The lack of ethics in his handling of the issue calls into play his ability to handle issues for his constituents and the country.
Jollyoldsoul, now you know how I feel about Sarah Palin. For one thing, I would love to watch a few more Tina Fey skits on Saturday Night Live. Making fun of the human Weiner is in the same category--it's such an easy target. Maybe they could combine both of them in the same skit.
Liberals are scared to death of Palin - otherwise they wouldn't bring her into every conversation. Face it - she could only do better than the empty suit we have in the WH right now who has decided to stop getting daily economic briefings. Guess he got tired of hearing that his Keynesian approach wasn't working - just like it didn't work for FDR.
Maybe they just want you to believe they are scared of her, so you guys will actually nominate her.
I'll admit it. I've fostered those thoughts - the entertainment to be gained by having Palin as the nominee. But then I think whoever the Republicans nominate might actually get to the White House, and I feel guilty about craving the entertainment.
Paul - whoever the Repubs nominate will get to the WH - Nov 2010 was just the start of people waking up to this POTUS. Nov 2012 the Senate goes to the Repubs along with about 20 House Seats. 0ne term 0bama gets sent back to Chicago to do what he does best - community organize for Rahmbo. (and probably play golf and hoops with us footing the bill)
kcstrawberryblond--It looks to me you just described the characteristics of most politicians, left, right or in the middle. Actually the Weiner business makes the news quite lively. It certainly diverts the attention from unemployment, war, deficits, etc. etc.
Liberals are scared to death of Palin - otherwise they wouldn't bring her into every conversation.
No, not scared of her, scared about her. That so many people regard this stuitch as a reasonable or semi-intelligent person scares us.
Cons like to send out those emails about a person using a cash register to return a customer's change and "can't make change without it, and remember they can vote." Many cons are too damn stupid themselves to see that they're trying to nominate someone they don't think should be able to vote, except that she's also white. And they still claim that doesn't make a difference. Yeah, right.
scuba.....keep thinking your smarter than them. Thats the attitude that keep us Independents center to right! You do realize your the minority.....Dont you? Us Independents will elect the next president!
scuba.....keep thinking your smarter than them. Thats the attitude that keep us Independents center to right! You do realize your the minority.....Dont you? Us Independents will elect the next president!
Welcome to class...
Scuba (notice capitalization)... Keep (again, but may be considered optional in this case) thinking you're (notice correct word usage for 'you are' rather than possessiveness) smarter than them. That's (notice proper word use, again) the attitude that keep us Independents center to right! (Independents change from Center-Left to Center-Right depending on whether or not the sun is shining.) You do realize you're (do I have to explain it again?) the minority.....(72 million registered Democrats, 55 million registered Republicans, 42 million registered Independents in 2004. 42% to 32% to 25%. And 42% is the minority? Check your math again.) Don't (Really, correct word use again?) you? We (correct grammar use) Independents will elect the next president! (As they did the last one, and the previous one, and the one before that, and so on, and so on... Since they're the ones that sway both ways)
Yes, it matters.
keep thinking your smarter than (you) - PROVEN
I just LOVE some less than intelligent individual that claims to be an Independent when every word out of their mouth and every word they type proves otherwise.
Uh, Robin? Get with the times. Consenting adults sending naughty pictures over the internet isn't exactly a "moral panic." I know several couples that do it to keep things spiced up in their relationship.
An active member of the US Senate, re-elected after it his name was found in the list of the DC Madame as an active customer of DC prostitutes. He admitted as much on TV with his poor disgraced wife standing reluctantly ar his side. What an @sshole. But, it's OK if you are a Republican, IOKIYAR.
They can do anything they want. They can betray their country by lying us into wars over non-existent WMD, they can steal the country blind to the tune of $700 Billion in TARP funds for Wall Street investment banks, they can even hire prostitutes all the while espousing "family values" and they don't have to resign, go to prison or even explain who is behind the closed doors for Cheney's Energy Task Force.
If Vitter resigns then Weiner should too, but not until.
Newt should not be allowed to run and Palin should have to stay out of public until all of her emails are thoroughly looked at.
That has to be the most moronic statement I've ever seen. Both of these people are private citizens and hold no public office at present. Sarah Palin hasn't even thrown her hat in the ring yet and Newt Gingrich from what I can tell in going down in flames already.
Next perhaps we should start telling the rest of the American public that we can't persue our interests unless we are vetted as it were.
It's about time these disgraceful perverts are removed from office. All of you in Washington SHOULD have started with Clinton, but hopefully you will continue to rid yourselves and the American public of this scum until every last one is gone and disgraced.
Dude, sending naughty pictures over the internet isn't perverted. It's just a normal thing people do these days. Try moving into the 21st century, man.
PJ, I know plenty of couples who send each other naughty pics. It's just a way they spice up their sex lives. Are you really saying that anyone who does that is devoid of dignity, responsibility, and reality?
Really Toasty? You are missing the real points here..he didn't send them to his wife he secretly had virtual affairs behind his wifes back which clearly makes him a cheat, he has admitted this. He also went public and lied for days about what he did thinking he could weasel his way out of this. Now he is saying he is seeking treatment, treatment for what? Toasty even you must admit that this guy is irresponsible, undignified and not facing reality. For the good of his own party he should consider stepping down. Would you accept this behaviour from your spouse if you had or have one? He accepted a position that requires certain morals and dignity and he crossed the line..simple
Marital infidelity isn't a crime, PC. And quite frankly, it's none of our business. This is between him and his wife, and has nothing to do with his professional life.
Toasty is exactly right PC101. Nothing about what Weiner did is a crime, and is nobody's business but his wife's. Why all the fuss? you ask. Not what you want it to be, I'm afraid. The fuss is (or is to the smart people anyway) over the fact that when he was caught, he tried to lie his way out of it by trying to blame someone else for his own actions (a 'hacker' did it!) I'm not really blaming you for your inability to see this because I fully understand that lying and blaming your actions on others is standard everyday business as usual for politicians these days. This tends to 'blend right into the forest' for most people such as yourself, while 'sex scandal' (gasp) grabs you right by the nose and pulls you in. Here's a perfect example. Sending tasteless pictures is NOT a sex scandal, sex crime, or remotely illegal, but it sure did rope you in didn't it. Yet, not a word about the REAL crime here, lying during an investigation by trying to blame it on somebody else (Obstruction of Justice). This is what Toasty has been trying to get across throughout this entire thread. It isn't HIM who has the double standards here.
An apology for PC101. I noticed in your comment before the one I commented on that you DID, in fact, mention that Weiner lied. But I do stand by my comment that that is the ONLY illegal thing that he did (Obstruction of Justice). In fact, it occured to me that there might not even have BEEN an 'investigation' had he not gotten it started by lying and intentionally pointing the investigators in the wrong direction. But nobody cares about that, it's the 'dirty pictures' that draws in the crowd.
steel toed boot - You are a rational and honest person, thanks for realising what I am saying. What he tweets and to who is not my business but this guy showed poor judgement so many times that he has lost credibility for the position he holds. I am vary open minded about sex matters but I do not share them over the internet..oops maybe I just did lol I also want to point out that Toasty tends to be predjudiced in his political views and was somewhat twisting things to fit his agenda. Not that he does not have that right because he does but I will call him on it when he does because he is more intelligent than most people on here and I feel he sometimes manipulates the conversation to fit his political agenda. I guess I would ask you is only one illgegal thing allowed (obstruction of justice) as you posted or is it a three strike kinda thing? For the record not even sure if he is guilty of obstruction of justice.
Hi PC101. I do agree with you as far as Weiner's character. Morally, I consider him slime if only for how this must feel for his wife, both emotionally and as far as embarrassment public and private. I could not imagine putting my wife through something like this. I would have the 'good taste' to at least divorce her before trolling for babes on the internet. Without a wife, I would consider him pitifully desperate to send out lewd pictures of himself. But as far as politically, it was his lying that concerns me, though such a poor and immature quality of judgement would also concern me as a person who may someday have to abide by laws that he votes for. Why men in his position with his prestigious job, money and benefits have to troll the internet for girls, pay for prostitutes, etc. never ceases to amaze me. It HAS to be a character flaw, even if it's just an "I am a born loser with women" attitude. Well, so much for Weiner.
As far as Toasty, I suspect you're right, but only because we're all prejudiced in our political views, myself included. But I won't twist things to fit my agenda. Democrat, Republican, Tea Bagger, Libertarian, Independent, Socialist, whatever, If s/he's wrong, I'll say s/he's wrong, but I won't stretch the truth to try to make it so or convince others to think like me. I sense that you wouldn't either. I think what Toasty has been trying to do is say the same thing by bluntly making a point. He's not so much twisting things to fit his agenda as he is trying to punctuate how others are. Further up this vine, I called him on repeatedly invoking Vitter at everybody incorrectly calling Weiner a 'sex deviate' who must be thrown out of office. In other words, why all the fuss about Weiner when they never peeped a word on Vitter. One could say Toasty was trying to divert attention away from Weiner. I think what he was saying was "If Weiner, then why not Vitter?" That's my stand exactly, a pig is a pig no matter how he's dressed or what he's labeled, R, D, I, L, whatever. As far as their morals, that's no my real political concern. I alway said I could happily sit down to dinner with a professional killer, because I know he's there to kill me. But to have dinner with someone who pretends to be my friend but will stab me in the back afterwards would make me sick. If a politician told me the truth, and I voted for him, that's my own fault. If a politician lies to me, and I vote for him, and he does the opposite of what he said he was going to do, then we have a problem. Unfortunately, they ALL lie. All you really have to go on is what they've done in the past (their record, if they have one) and hope that all that lobby money doesn't change their votes.
I'm getting carried away here. Sometimes the end justifies the means. So in that case, whatever you have to do, whatever you have to say he did, he's a proven liar holding office, and whatever it takes to get him removed, so be it. I just wish all the others who should be removed would get equal treatment, not some get protected because of how many 'friends' they have or how important they are to their political party or how the 'other party' might gain control of that seat if they're removed.
@ David Levin -- His constituents are backing him en masse, so I don't think it would be best for them. And as far as Democrats go, he's one of the few that stands up to the GOP and doesn't let them dictate what he should or shouldn't be supporting. As far as him twittering his junk, that is behavior that is done by a lot of people. As far as him lying about it, that's how regular people would react if they got caught. But regular people wouldn't be on the front page of MSNBC.com. I personally think he represents the citizens of this country more than the other scumbags in office. JMO
Johnny that is where you are wrong. I am not a Republican and would never want someone like him to represent me after finding out about his real character.
At this point, constituents or not, he should at least have some respect for his family and especially his pregnant wife and figure out a way to get the heck out of the limelight. On one hand he was selected by the constituents in his district and if they want him to continue representing them then fine but what he's putting his famility thru and the damage he's done to his own ability to get things done. Oh well, after a few years Ted Kennedy was back after his little indiscretion.
The poor, sick guy needs the $$$ that comes with the job. He won't quit without some huge donor or Dem stakeholder offering him a parachute full of cash that may include a job to save face. He's got huge bills to pay and appears to be overextended (no pun intended) already. His wife makes a very nice salary but that could be the last straw to the marriage....Her, the hard-working pregnant wife supporting him and his tweeting and deviant photo devices.
Normally when a man is engaging in conversation with a female and exposes himself, it is viewed as offensive and indecent. In many places, unsolicited, explicit photos of genitalia are deemed illegal pornography and stalking.
However, this is a Liberal, and the majority of those who elected him are unable to see anything he has done as showing rash behavior and a massive lack of judgment. It seems they are content with the fact he could have, or may have been blackmailed by a hostile government.
And then of course, the National Security implications are enormous in that he has caused psychological damage to a top aid of the Secretary of State while they are on delicate Diplomatic Missions with countries whose cooperation and good will are essential.
You mean to tell me no one has sent you suggestive language or photo's is your computer life that boring? You know what they thy say about all work and no computer play.........
Wow.....Victoria! As a Chief Network engineer for a global corp...... I want to know what kind of porn you have on your computer? And if your busy later LoL!
Gosh Victoria... no, I don't know what they say... and I'm trying to envision what kind of pics and language you think I should have received... Please forward whatever you feel will most graphically illustrate your positions ; )
why did I think this horrible man was going AWAY? If not, Congress really need to show some spine and 'out him!' what the devil is going on--it's going from bad to worse and he won't resign? Shame him publicly (not that he hasn't done that already) and fire him, darnit!
Where is there not a public outcry on all that is wrong with government leaders? It's sickening and I for not do not care to allow my taxes to pay Weiner from the public trough ever again.
This man must leave office to avoid staining the Democratic Party's unsoiled and noble repu....uhh...er......well...This Man violated the Democratic Party's Code of Con...errr, well, actually his behavior has been pretty normal for a male politician--of either party--hasn't it?
Clinton and Kennedy actually had friends - Weiner is so obnoxious and annoying he has no friends - except for possibly his wife. That is why Clinton & Kennedy got away with their shennanigans. It was also a different era and the Senate knew that if they removed Clinton we would be stuck with the blowhard algore.
An active member of the US Senate, re-elected after it his name was found in the phone list of the DC Madame as an active customer of DC prostitutes.
But, it's OK if you are a Republican, IOKIYAR.
They can do anything they want. They can betray their country by lying us into wars over WMD, they can steal the country blind to the tune of $700 Billion in TARP funds for Wall Street investment banks, they can even hire prostitutes all the while espousing "family values" and they don't have to resign, go to prison or even explain who is behind the closed doors for Cheney's Energy Task Force.
If Vitter resigns then Weiner should too, but not until.
Geez Vitter would you please resign so Weinergate can come to a close? It is the only thing that will satisfy the left an eye for an eye..right out of the liberal Bible. Oh wait then what about Rangle? hahaha
Didn't Pelosi and other Democrats get the memo? 56% of the people who voted Wiener into office said he used bad judgment and lied, but his actions broke no laws, and he has been doing a fine job representing their interests and causes, so he should stay.
Who the heck is Pelosi? Oh yes, this is the same Pelosi who hijacked Obama's domestic agenda and forced Harry Reid to play along, costing the Dems control of the House. Now Obama has to try and win not only the White House in 2012, but all the seats Pelosi caused to be lost. Pelosi is a loser! She is the one who should resign for costing the Dems control of the House. Go away Nancy story!
What the hell are you thinking Debbie? Anthony's numbers are higher now than when he was elected. He has the strongest voice in the congress and I personally don't want to see him go.
You Democrats can be so damn stupid, no wonder you're in trouble when you eat your own kind to boost your own political careers.
No party holds a lock on being sleazy - it is just the Dems that are taking advantage of showing us how sleazy they are - things are circular - it all comes and goes (pun intended) Just whatever it takes to make sure the current POTUS is 0ne term 0bama.
You know, I feel I should reiterate it just so people don't think that Certs was telling the truth. The contact with the 17 year old was found to be completely innocent.
Yes, let's check US Senator David Vitter's Twitter account. The recently re-elected self-admitted whore monger and best customer of the DC Madame should have some juicy tidbits to share with all of us. But, it's OK if you are a Republican. Just ask John Ensign.
For all the politicians...you cannot tell someone to resign, do the same, and then refuse to resign yourself. There cannot be two standards here, it must be the same for all. What Weiner did verbally and with photos does not stoop to the level of Ensign or Vitter but it does say something about power and attitudes toward women. And I understand why Pelosi and Wasserman-Schultz say he should go. If he doesn't, redistricting will likely do that for them.
How about Vitter? Well he didn't make the same headlines I guess but let's just agree he should step down. Now then what about Weiner? Maybe Weiner should not have held so many arrogant press conferences and interviews lying to the world. Maybe he cooked his own hot dog.
What took them so long? Is it the exchange with the teenager? Is there more news in the pipeline we don't know yet? If the intention was to cut the guy loose, why give your opponents a political football to kick in your face for two plus weeks?
And why defy the constituency that seems to want him to stay in office?
I have yet to see any woman or minor make a complaint about anything. If one occurs he should go. As of now there is no indication, proof, or anybody's statement that any minor received any obscene pictures, despite FOXnews and the rights attempt to make it seem there has been. Anything between consenting adults is their business, and his wifes. His districts constituents should make the call, not everyone else.
Baloney any politician with a high level security clearance should never put him/herself in a position such as this to be blackmailed. They are in a strong position to compromise the security of the country. So, not too well said, desktop!
Baloney any politician with a high level security clearance should never put him/herself in a position such as this to be blackmailed. They are in a strong position to compromise the security of the country. So, not too well said, desktop!
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. WOW! I can do it too!
Oh, and WELL SAID DESKTOP!!! Just like RLD719 & Oh No both stated. I'm sorry Oh No, did I take that out of context?
I can think of a few Republicans who had far worse scandals and didn't quit... so I really don't know where your going with this.
At least Weiner can say hes staying so he can fight for the middle class, and for the people... thats something almost no Republican can claim. All a Republican could say is "I'm staying to make sure the rich get richer, and that we screw the middle class out of everything to pay for it".
I don't really care about Weiner, but since we're all so concerned with being stand-up guys and gals, I will use this time and space to call for all congressmen and women to submit to a drug test.
The dems desperately want Weiner to resign because they fear a continuing series of revelations. Obviously, Weiner’s been at this for some time and the dems consider it likely more women will come forward and more tweets/photo’s or other embarrassments will, over time, manifest themselves.
If Weiner resigned, then any future revelations will have little impact on the Democratic Party.
In this matter, the dems should follow the lead of the repubs where in similar circumstances they quickly resigned. Sleaze is not confined to any one party.
Wet Willie, I assume you forgot about Sen. Vitter?
Guesses are that many of these 'supporters' have teenagers of their own and would be mad as hell if their daughter fell victim to this trash.
The sacrifices one has to make to keep a Liberal agenda open!
At this point in time, it is. When he resigns we will consider him equal to the other sleazes like Vitter Edwards, etc etc, but right now, all the sleaziness is his. But remember, the Clintons are his advisors so who knows.
Let's see... electronic contact with various women over three years... nothing illegal... but he should resign?
Prostitutes, affairs with staffers, actual illegal actions and actual adulterous contact... Vitter still sitting in his seat... Ensign resigned only when he saw he couldn't get re-elected in his state... but Weiner should resign?
Stay put Weiner. You're still more respectable than any repugnocant I know of.
Yes, please don't resign Weenie; we're having too much fun with this. What with the Dems trying to toss him under the bus and libs like ScubaGolf trying to justify it. Hey GolfJim, if this were a Republican caught with his zipper open, I bet you'd be defending him too......right?
The new liberal stutter. Vi Vi ViVitterVitter.....Vivivitter! Come on Michelle get the marbles out of your.......errr mouth!
Vitter is a sleaze, but at least he had the sense to hire hookers, and like a good Republican spent money in a capitalist manner; Weiner, is a sicko, he needs serious help if he does not resign he will become a Piranha in Washington, and in Washington you have to be really sleazy to be a Piranha .
Wonder WHY a photo of (Good looking Palin) and a reference to another article is on this page?
Still gotta protect those DEMS?
He is a horrible man, and I feel SO sorry for his beautiful wife!
He said 3 yrs. of sexting......I'll bet it is MUCH more!
BTW........Pelosi is one of the BIGGEST liars on the HIll!
PLEASE, WEINER, STAY! You're doing a splendid job as a role model for the Democratic party. I beg you, stay, do not resign....
Saxon, I believe the word you were going for is pariah. . . an outcast. Yes?
Piranha does have an interesting connotation though. Especially in Washington.
Saxon - did you mean pariah? A piranha is a little Amazonian fish.
Last week Wasserman-Schultz said this is a private matter and even remained quiet all week. The other day Pelosi said it was up to the Rep and his constituents. Until the 17 yr old surfaced i was bothered more by the continual lying than the other although the fact he tried to blame others as a set up and take their livelihood is also despicable.
Suddenly now they think he should go/ Oh the best is though that since the Dems do not claim family values is it different. So I guess if one has no values they are allowed to act as they will.
I do not care what party if they are foul they should go that is JMO and I do not have the power to make any of them go but if i did they would all go/no excuse for this. he should have been gone IMO
Would anyone want their daughter exposed to this?????
Pelosi needs to go also.
From Anthony Weiner's congressional Website......
http://www.weiner.house.gov/issue_display.aspx?id=844
From Anthony Weiners OWN website.....
Protecting Children On the Internet
In early 2007 my office did a study that found that over 85% of registered sex offenders in New York City live less than five blocks from schools, and 670 sex offenders live within just two blocks. Some offenders are even closer, permanently residing less than 500 feet away from unwitting parents, educators and children.
Along with several colleagues in Congress, we introduced & passed the KIDS (Keeping the Internet Devoid of Sexual Predators) Act of 2007, a bill to require sex offenders to register their e-mail and instant message addresses with the National Sex Offender Registry. The “Kids Act’ implemented one of my six recommendations to keep a closer eye on sex offenders both near school grounds and online. I also proposed stricter GPS tracking of sex offenders, tougher enforcement of registration laws and more public disclosure of sex offender data.
Sadly, the Internet is the predator's venue of choice today. We need to update our strategies and our laws to stop these offenders who are a mere click away from our children.
Sadly yes.......and Weiner is a VIOLATOR of his OWN LEGISLATION...how's that for
Are Liberals viewing Wiener's actions through the lens of Conservative morality?
Since when do liberals judge someone's legal sexual activity?
Why? I thought this was what the democratic party stood for. He doesn't believe he has done anything wrong. This is what we can expect from democrats. Gentlemen, do not be suprised if Nancy Pelosi sends you graphic photos of herself. You can throw up, but don't be suprised.
I don't think being a sleazebag is confined to republicans and democrats. As far as I can tell, it just seems to be a human trait.
All this over some cell phone pics? You can't be serious...
morality?
First off, Conservatives have NO claim to having more pure morality, if any at all.
Since when do liberals judge someone's legal sexual activity?
If his actions were found out as a Republican, he should resign. Vitter, even if a Dem, should be gone. Larry Craig, GONE! John Edwards? GONE!!
Take off your partisan glasses. They are smeared with blinding tint.
peace
First of all, we're convicting the guy without a trial. Secondly, let any politician who has never done anything unscrupulous and/or immoral please stand up (anybody??). And as far as Weiner being a "sexual predator," again, we have no proof at all at this point that his internet contact with a 17-yr old was inappropriate. I do not condone what Weiner has done, but we have a lot more important issues as a nation to worry about. If he did anything against the law, we have courts for that.
If even Pelosi calls for his resignation, it's time to go. Having a tax cheat like Ranglel defend his is hardly an encouraging sign.
How did he violate it, DTJB? He committed no crime and interacted only with consenting adults.
And while you're at it, let's talk about David Vitter.
Ooh, or Senator Larry Craig. He wasn't told to resign either. Let's talk about him too!
DTJB -- Weiner is not a pedophile, nor did he engage in sexting with young teenagers. He did do sexting with adult women, and he is an exhibitionist.
All of you are missing the point and getting way off topic.
The question has been, beyond familial ethics and moral mishaps, Can Weiner function as a Congressional leader after compromising himself in this manner?
Is internet exhibitionism, twittering and sexting, cheating? Most of us tend to think so. Why did he lie about it? Obviously he is embarrassed about his problem of being an exhibitionist.
Actually, I really like what Alec Baldwin said. Maybe everyone should read his comments. Weiner is a modern man , a political figure, who got wrapped up in the internet, and with his exhibitionist tendencies, he got bit in the butt.
Michelle 1.2
I was alluding to the likes of Lee, Massa, Ensign, and others. Nope, I didn’t forget about Vitter but perhaps he survived due to his transgression being pre-twitter. I don’t think there’s any question that these incidents have far greater impact, coverage and consequences for the transgressor than just a few years ago.
after having great secretary's for 40 years, I am still learning how to type; spelling is the next step, yep I did not mean the little Amazon fish, however it may fit, thanks .
As is often the case, the events that unfolded AFTER this scandal are why Rep. "wanna see my..." should resign or be removed.
While I would forgive his interest in the young un's by itself if he had come clean, Anthony's dog and pony show after this broke and especially the accusation of a cyber attack/hacking of a U.S. Rep's social networking sites is completely unacceptable. Rep, Weiner should resign or be removed.
As for #1.17, as much as I vehemently oppose the policies of Rep. Pelosi, there is simply no evidence she's ever been involved in any type of sex/sexting scandal. I'll be happy to attack her clueless socialist policies, but unless and until she does something to bring the spotlight on her personal life, I'll (thankfully since the thought of a sexting tweet from her is disturbing to say the least) leave her (and all other public officials') private life(lives) alone! Neither party has much room to talk when it comes to scandal, which is one of the main reasons that politics are so much fun !!!
I could care less abut the original stuff but he lied for over 10 days and on camera and claimed it was a set up to take his job away. he said others were lying and not him he tried to take away others livelihood with his lies.
If he lies about this what else will he lie about/he lied to his wife who he supposedly loves what lies will he tell to those he could care less about.
Now 17 year old girls are having to give up their computers for the weekend so they can be investigated since he had no idea if people were even of age as he sent "junk mail" by IPhone/and twitter.
Last week people were claiming he was on the up and up and the one that was the victim what more will roll out as this goes on/
Not to mention what if someone wanted to use this as leverage for some unknown reason there is too much at stake here with his position
spider-737231
A couple of things for you to think about Spider:
1. If there has been no illegal activity...
AND
2. The person is not a complete hypocrite having run on his/her "moral fortitude"
...there is no reason for them to resign, no matter what party they represent. Guess you're defending Vitter though? He BROKE THE EFFING LAW AND RAN ON HIS "MORALS" AND DEMANDED CLINTON RESIGN FOR NON-ILLEGAL ACTS and repugnocant defend him? Typical... hypocrites.
Really, which is worse? Lying in a stupid attempt to protect your reputation (DUMB move by Weiner) or being a lying hypocrite about breaking the law in addition to adultery against your self-proclaimed "family values" stance? I'll take the former over the latter any day.
pat c-1901476
Obviously you are delusional. Only lib morons would envy this guy.
National party chairman calls disgraced Democrat's behavior 'indefensible'"
Um, duh! Everybody with a brain understood that as soon began saying he couldn't deny the photo was him.. yet you still have the mindless sheep trying desperately to defend a perv because the "D" next to his name is the most meaningful to them.
Pelosi said that if he didn't quit she would sext him a picture of her cootchie....
Toasty McGrath "How did he violate it, DTJB? He committed no crime and interacted only with consenting adults."
Age 17 is not consenting. He violated rules for Congressmen, so it would be hypocritical for him to stay. A Republican Congressman was forced to resign within about an hour just for one tweet without a shirt. Weiner did far worse, releasing a photo of his peni$.
The last thing the Democrats need right now is for this to drag out for the next several months with a congressional investigation. It appears that the 'culture of corruption' and the need to 'drain the swamp' is alive and well among the Democrats.
Roy, stop pretending to be a complete moron. The exchanges with the 17-year-old were found to be completely innocent. Completely appropriate. End of story.
Now if you'd like to talk about lawmakers who ACTUALLY broke the law, let's address David Vitter and Larry Craig. Neither of whom were told to step down.
Finally...some 'leadership' out of the Democ Rat Party Leadership.
Lord Barry Christ, anything, anything, anything at all?
Hurray for Weinergate; it just doesn't get any better than watching the likes of Toasty McGrath and her left-wing perverts' rights group defending this pathetic little dweeb’s right to make a total ass of both himself and the Democratic Party! Ya gotta love it!
If only we could get some leadership out of the republicans. If Wiener needs to go, then Vitter DEFINITELY needs to.
This should not be a matter for party politics, this piece of dogs**t brings Congress into disgrace. For that reason alone he should be gone. If he refuses to resign then the two House Leaders should get together and simply boot him out.
Draining the swamp has to start somewhere and the Democrats may as well treat themselves to the high ground (if you'll excuse the pun) and punt one of their own.
For those who like slogans, how about:
SLEAZY STUNT = INSTANT PUNT
Weiner needs a new line of work, maybe he can audition as a male pole dancer in a scruffy tavern somewhere.
Toasty - you take first prize for naivety as usual... nothing regarding the 17yrd has been found even remotely "appropriate" and that is why the Dems are changing their tune... they see the writing on the wall.
"Authorities said the teen didn't say anything about illegal conduct."
"The teen has been interviewed and disclosed no information regarding any criminal activity."
The 17 yr old simply didn't volunteer anything to the police, not even remotely close to proving appropriateness.
He needs to step down! A disappointment to our troops and country..
Vitter did not lie about the prostitutes he told the truth about being with prostitutes 7 to 8 years earlier. Is Vitter scum yes, but at least he was man enough to admit it and he didn't try to get someone else in trouble with the law by falsely accusing them of a crime.
PJ, I know you WANT there to have been something inappropriate, but the fact is that there is no evidence even suggesting it. I mean, I could make the same accusations about you, and I have exactly as much evidence as you have on him.
In any case. Why don't you call for Vitter's resignation?
getthefacts-520809
Maybe you should getthefacts yourself...
Yeah, he told the truth just as Anthony Weiner did, when there was no other way to deny the allegations. The difference is that paying for a prostitute in Washington DC is illegal. Texting people is not.
Shailagh Murray, "Senator's Number on 'Madam' Phone List", Washington Post, July 10, 2007
Stuart Rothenberg, "Hot race for Livingston's Louisiana House seat", CNN, April 13, 1999
More...
While the Louisiana state Republican Party offered guarded support,[39] national Republicans offered forgiveness.[40] The Nation predicted that the Republican Party would be in a "forgiving mood", pointing out if Vitter did step down, then Governor of Louisiana, Kathleen Blanco, a Democrat, would likely appoint a Democrat to take Vitter's place until a special election took place, thus increasing Democratic control over the Senate.[41][42][43]
Republican Senator Sam Brownback told Bloomberg Television on October 5, 2007, that Vitter should be censured by the Senate. He said, "I think you could see something like that taking place. If you look at the actual crime itself and the discussion across the country– and as a Republican– this is bad."[44]
In a similar vein when the Eliot Spitzer prostitution scandal — Spitzer being then governor of New York — hit the headlines, commentators contrasted the end-results: Spitzer resigned while Vitter stayed on.[45][46][47] In response, Jeff Crouere, a New Orleans conservative political commentator, called on Vitter to resign, saying he was an ineffective representative and reflected poorly on the state.
The tax payers will take it on the chin on this one.!!
These government officials are never responsible for their actions.. No wonder Americans have no confidence in this system..
Will he resign with full retirement & a paid health care plan.??? Nice deal..!!
Congress should be made to participate in the same programs they have set up for American veterans. Serving in congress is an honor not a career.!!
GL, since when are we supposed to care about a lawmaker's marital troubles? It's his business.
For everyone who does not understand the severity of this I will explain. If you lie to the general public about something as a congressman it is wrong(Telling everyone that you had been hacked when you know full well that you are lying). Then you turn around and throw someone and their career under the bus(telling everyone that you were hacked, and the culprit is a blogger that is critical of you, even though you know that he had nothing to do with it). Last, if you did approach underage girls, there is no excuse, it is, and always will be illegal...any questions?
Scuba..................>>So again, we must settle for the "lesser of evils?" No wonder this country has become mediocre, at best.
An "ethics" investigation, put on by the government? An oxymoron if I have ever heard one.
Wet Willy
Since you wish to make this a Republican vs Democrat issue, please consider the following:
Republican Senator John Ensign didn't quit until just prior to his ethics hearing, more than a year after public release of his adultery with his employee (and his wife's best friend). Republicanpresidential candidate Santorum warned Ensign about the story breaking after Ensign's mistress's husband asked him for advice in an email. Republican Senator Tom Coburn helped Ensign arrange a $96,000 bribe from Ensign's parents.
You should also explain why Republican Senator Larry Craig completed his term after his restroom adventure and why Republican Senator David Vitter not only finished his term but was re-elected after multiple adventures with whores. You might also remember how when Republican Representative Mark Foley was caught stalking Congressional pages the Republicans circled the wagons as the story stretched out for several weeks. Pages, in case you didn't know, are high school students.
At least Weiner didn't drag his wife on stage for his apology and further embarrass her. Ensign did. Vitter did. Craig did.
Don, don't be a fool! this goes both ways, and you would have to be moron not to understand that!
Mark
I was calling WetWilly on his claim that Republicans resign in these situations. Pay attention!
No, ScubaGolfJim, I don't wan to talk about Vitter; he's not the subject here, Weenie is. Your typical lib tactic of deflection is transparent as hell. If you want to discuss past sinners, let's talk about a real lawbreaker, Charlie Rangel. You can go first.
But Spider, Vitter committed an actual crime, and Wiener didn't. Why should one have to resign and not the other?
Look, I understand why you don't want to talk about Vitter. But it's time to grow up and accept it.
Anyone seriously trying to explain away this behavior as legal or ok as it is private has never held a position of responsibility. When you are a part of the Congress of the US we DO hold you to a standard. You get paid well, lifetime benefits, and control a portion of trillions in spending every year.
Are there more like him in Congress? Absolutely. Do we want low-lifes like weiner in a position of power? Absolutely not.
As for treatment - I didn't realize there is treatment for being a sleazebag.
Maybe he could get a job driving the wienermoblie. Nah...
It could happen to anyone, crash! Tony, you okay?
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/17/oscar-mayer-wienermobile-penetrates-unsuspecting-home/
Sorry, I couldn't resist.
This is very typical of the Liberal sleeze of "do as I say, not as I do" as we saw under the Impeached Clinton after he stated, on Brodcast TV, saying "I did not have sex with that Woman, Miss Lewinski(sp?)." The message that Teens got from that was that Oral Sex was not sex, and immediatly began the practice, because "the President said it wasn't sex!!!"
Kennedy kept a Harem, Edwards insulted his Wife, while She was Dying from Cancer, with illicit Sex, and is now indicted for using Campaign funds to pay her, His gal pal, off, and the list goes on. When will the Left understand that saying "I'm sorry" is not an acceptable answer?
Weiner must pay the price, and leave or have Congress expel him, he is a sorry excuse for a Man, let alone a role model and Law maker, out, Sir, and take Pelosi and Reid with you, very fastly.
Yes, the Right has had some problems also in the past, with Gary Hart and the Ex-speaker, but they did the "RIGHT" thing and resigned immediatly, they did not try to live a lie. This "Man" is a sex offender and child molester, by his own account with the Legislation he supported to protect just the Peoplke he is violating. Treat him as any Child Molester and sex offender: Prison, then PERMANENT Registration as a Sex offender, forever.
Place the same punishment that a comman Person, Male or Female, would get: Long term Prison, no Benefits from Congress, and surrender his Seat IMMEDIATLY!!!!
If he is treated any differently, then we will all know that the Leftist Agenda protects Sex offenders and Molesters.
Whine, cry, call me names and lable me, but you have to admit he was caught being a "weiner" with Children under the age of 18, over the Internet(Tweets go through the internet as they are broadcast), and then make his Crime a FEDERAL OFFENSE!!!!!
I'll be Censored by "collapse/delete" because the left will not accept the truth. Had he been a Republican, the Left would call for Immediate Impeachment, as they have in the past.......and the offenders "Head on a Platter", but for them, this is just hunky-dorey. Shame on Congress, and Weiner, for ttrying to cover this up as usual, no special privelege for Him, just Prison, loss of ALL benefits and retirement, then lifelong GPS Ankle bracelets.
Toasty, I know that you and I look at things from very different perspectives, but I do agree with you about Vitter and company. Any man who cannot rule over himself is unfit to rule over you or me whether or not he broke written laws.
He "publicly" accused a professional reporter/blogger of the FELONY of hacking his Twitter account, which he knew were false accusations! That elevates the "lie" to new heights!
He's going to get treatment? FOR WHAT? You can't get treatment for being a douche bag, a liar, or because you act like some a$$hole 12 year old! Just GTF outta here... no one wants you around, jerkoff!
And that's what elections decide, DN.
........................................ENOUGH MEDIA COVERAGE...................................
Treatment = COP-OUT.
Transmission of phonographic material via the Internet is a FEDERAL CRIME:
Take Weiner to FEDERAL COURT and be done with continuous media coverage. Once he is in prison, his vacancy can be filled.
There are more pressing issues facing our Nation today which needs media coverage and investigation.
ScubaGolfJim:
"Really, which is worse? Lying in a stupid attempt to protect your reputation (DUMB move by Weiner) or being a lying hypocrite about breaking the law in addition to adultery against your self-proclaimed "family values" stance? I'll take the former over the latter any day."
Jimmy, I think you would take the one with the D after their name, even if they were an ax murderer.
Weiner was not a respected member of Congress.... by either party! No one likes him! Even the democrats thinks he's obnoxious... but only tolerated him because he's the equivilent of an enforcer in hockey. His role is to go out and bend the rules to damage the opposition... nothing more! He's a bully on the Hill.... and a liberal vote! He need to resign and Pelosi should too...!
The democrats want and need to cut their losses quickly because this story won't go away! The longer it festers the more damage! They have abandoned the Weiner man! That's it in a nutshell, with emphasis on the nut.
Toasty (Toasty?) why do you even keep posting such nonsense? Really!
DON 1.51
Geez Don, if you want to talk about humiliating their wives by dragging them on stage, think Spitzer and McGreevy. They both did exactly that, just in case you forgot about those dems. Stop being such a weenie yourself.
You know, I've been meaning to ask you what's with the parentheses and question mark, miked?
Me--I had no idea that there was a treatment that could actually teach a person that sending pictures of your cock to strangers is stupid as @!$%#.
Phonographic? Isn't that hearing vs seeing?
The definition of amoral:
having no moral standards, restraints, or principles; unaware of or indifferent to questions of right or wrong: a completely amoral person.
This would fit the description of Weiner and several other politicians we know. This is a characteristic of many in the entertainment business... but more and more it has also become a characteristic of our politicians! Power corrupts and the beltway politicians have lots of power.
Vote 'em all out!
Whatever you say, Senator McCarthy...
Optomyst
And you call yourself Optomyst? That's brave there buddy! :) But doesn't it seem like that in most elections nowadays, local, state and national, primaries and generals?
Oh wise one, I bow my head in respect.
He admitted he was stupid.
He is clear minded enough to understand he is stupid.
He knew he was stupid before and after his acts of stupidity.
Does anyone really believe that getting Tweetment for his Twittering problem will make him less stupid in the decision making process for future critical issues facing the nation?
To be a surgeon, lawyer, engineer, auto-mechanic, hair dresser… there is a mandatory test before you are allowed to even try to practice.
Yet in our political process there is no test at all, you can be a immature mathematically challenged illiterate and still be entrusted with making decision that not only effect everyone in the USA, but the entire world… as long as your rich enough to afford handlers who do not care about anything past their pocket, and have the backing of one of the two stupefied US political parties.
We need a verifiable test given to anyone who garners enough signatures to run for any office BEFORE they are pushed down the throats of the American voters.
getthefacts....Vitter LIED period. He campaigned on family values/religeous right ideals, then was having sex with prostitutes which was living a lie.
The only reason why he confessed was because his name was found in the DC Madam's phonebook and his hippocrisy was going to be made public.
Regarding Weiner..... I do not recall that he lied when the pics/sext was first made known by Breitbart.
It makes one wonder if Brietbart was not behind that conservo warning group started - a few months back- on social media warning those who were following Weiner about his sexting and even to try to get a teenager to invite weiner to accompany her to the prom - or something like that, per an article that was on the net yesterday. Hmmm
Weiner was not the one that was saying he did not send the sext originally if I am not mistaken.
If I remember correctly he stated that he was not sure, he was going to have an internet firm check into the matter. The media kept pushing the matter asking him to difinitively state whether he sent the sexting or not.
Frankly it seem that just because the media state that the guy lied does not mean that he did. Just because a person does not answer a question does not mean that they are lying.
In this day and age it is possible that the pics could have been altered to show something that he had not sent in the first place, thus he would be admitting to doing something that he did not do.
What if the pics had been altered to show his 'member' unclothed.... then he would be admitting to sending a pic of his naked member, but did he sext pics of his naked penis?
Until the matter was investigated to find out what pic he was being accused of sexting ..... he waffled and initially stated that he was not sure if it was of him.....i.e. his penis shots. So where is the lie?
Regarding these democrats calling for his resignation..... that is their perogative.... they can ask for whatever they like, does not mean the person- who was elected by his constituents- have to do as these other democrats ask.
Weiner is not an employee of the democratic party... so it would be in these other congress people in the democratic party interest to just shut it and get on with more important business, like jobs, the debt ceiling, the cost of the wars and rebuilding of other countries while this country goes to hell in a hand basket imo.
One could say that both parties are being precious and pretentious.
Both parties are probably happy about this sexting thing, because they can publicly beat up on Weiner - to give the impression that they are doing the hard work i.e. addressing the various important issues facing this country, in Congress when in actuality they are not imo.
Even if Weiner should resign, the big problems like job creation, jumpstarting the economy, the debt ceiling, the draining cost of the wars, the crumbling infrastructure, the need to raise taxes on the rich and to remove the tax breaks and subsidies being given to corporations who do not need it would not be addressed.
This is just another slight of hand/red herring to take the masses eyes off the fiscal immorality of the Ryan republoconteabagdino budget plan which skrws the masses and take away all their public safety nets like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid etc and the work of these folks to take away all our rights -like to privacy, abortion, a woman's right to make decisions about her own body- etc if not at the federal level then at the state and local level.
Just like when the Ryan repuboconteabag budget plan came out the beltway/mainstream media was talking about Ryan's gorgeous hair and some other congress person's pex etc. Not a word about what was in the budget until much later when they had no choice but to address the contents of that budget..
The masses are being conned big time period.... We are being made to believe that Weiner sexting is the problem by both sides as they sit there doing nada for the benefit of the masses who need the help.
Well they may as well beat up on Weiner..... otherwise they would be beating up on the poor masses yet again.... talking how lazy and do not want to work the unemployed are, and about the cause of the financial meltdown was due to poor people buying overpriced homes aided and abetted by Fannie mae and Freddie mac blah, blah, blah.... instead of the meltdown was due to pernicious capitalistic greed while playing/gambling with other peoples money and lives while betting that these po folks and investors would lose... LOL
If I was a democrat in Congress I would want Weiner gone too.... after all with his stance on helping the masses, he forces these other folks to pick a side.
If I was a republican conservative teabagger dino in Congress, I would want Weiner gone too.... after all with his stance on helping the masses, he shows that these folks are on the side of corporate big biz rich America period.
Either these polititians are leaders helping the masses and to rebuild America or they are simply shills and empty suits whose purpose is to continue to help corporations/big donors and their agenda at the expense of the masses, and/or are being shown to be straddling the fence with their double speak about the public wanting them to work together i.e. the old bipartisan crap/con, while not doing one thing or the other or anything for that matter.
Weiner has a big mouth when it comes to talking up for the masses, the sexting just show why and how he is so loud/bold...... He has the 'goods' to match. LOL
Now I have had my rant..... So, let he/she who is without sin in thought, word or deed, cast the first stone... hmmm.....
It seems the quarry is still full of stones..... oops LOL
Pat C.,
You say;
I say;
There's either another pelosi that we have not seen yet, or you need to get your eyesight checked. If Moses had seen Nancy there would be another commandment.
I'm a republican who thinks this democrat need not resign.
He did some sleazy things that harmed nobody but his wife. BFD. Just because he is not on "your side," or because his acts are hurting your side politically, folks get on their high moral horse.
Unless you can show me how he used his position to enrich himself or harm the taxpayers, then I view this as his personal problem, and that is none of my business.
Roni-2716149
Well RoniRooRooy you think wrong. I'd take the more capable person, which is almost always the one with a D after their name. Most of those with the R's are such hypocritical idiots they don't know what they said the previous week, even when it's on videotape.
Now the GOP/cons want to get the (non-axe) murderer from Texas to run for President? First he kills a man convicted with false evidence (well, the second or third by some counts), covers up the murder by firing those on the review board that disagreed with him, and then promotes secession. That's who the cons want? Love It! Bet you'd choose him. Why? Because he used a lethal injection instead of an axe?
In full disclosure: I support the death penalty but not when there is proof of discredited "evidence." Also, if DNA is available, test it. If they're still considered guilty... what are you waiting for?
It is shameful that our elected officials act like buffoons. He has embarrassed himself, his office and his family, why doesn't he resign? Perhaps if he did he might not be so attractive to other women. I cannot understand why a man his age would exchange text messages with a teenager.
I would also like to know why a teenager is texting with a much older, married man? Did her parents never teach her anything? If one of my girls were doing this their phone would be gone!
Is there really therapy for being an immature idiot?
Scuba,
Please, for the sake of he nation, base your judgement on something other than a D or an R. The evil will come like a wolf in the night to find you. That wolf can come wearing an R or a D, in the current manifestation it is a D and he is black, the previous manifestation he wore an R and was white, in the previous manifestation he played a saxophone and was having his twinkie gagged on by a bimbo.
For the sake of this great nation, open your eyes and realize what is going on. Consider this a request from a loyal American Patriot. Drop the Bi-partisan, define right and wrong under the Constitution, then look at what the currently elected politicians are doing. How could anyone in their right mind vote for 95% of them?
Toasty, would you have a problem with him talking to YOUR 17 yr old daughter? What does a 47 yr old pervert (already established) need to talk to a 17 yr old girl about?
Stop trying to deflect…the typical liberal response….This isn’t about Vitter, it’s about Weiner showing his wiener and then lying about it and trying to get another man in trouble over it…what if you were the other man? Would you be so quick to defend?
Didn't you get the liberal memo....about face and attack!
First of all, he obviously has difficulty understanding right from wrong. Apparently some on this board do as well. He represents the US government and so we should expect a high degree of ethics and morality. He set us all up by lying for nearly a week until he was forced to confess. He would have stayed with the lie if he could have, but his sick behavior was catching up to him.
The best part I think was the fact that he felt obliged to call Bill Clinton to apologize for his behavior. I mean Bill Clinton? The same Bill Clinton that lied to all of us years ago when he had a sexual relationship with a young intern named Monica? That same Bill Clinton deserves an apology? I mean even the left wing comics died laughing over that one.
The dems now say Weiner had few friends and that he was really nobody in the democrat party. I can't tell you how many democrat pundits said nobody outside of NY ever heard of the guy. Oh please.....he was their star. He was ushered out every week to bash the right with his sheer arrogance. He sure as heck didn't have that arrogant tone the other day? Nope, he was forced to apologize even to his enemies.
To his wife. RUN.
My question is: What is he getting treatment for? Stupidity? Actually, I'd have to say he does need treatment of a chronic case of liberalism. Maybe he'll learn to see the truth, since that is the only cure for the disease. Maybe he'll take the rest of the House and Senate dems into treatment with him. Only by learning and understanding and willing to do something about the destruction they are causing this country, will they truly be free. Actually, he could really be noble and bring the RINOs with him too.
"Weiner seeks treatment, leave of absence from House"
How about a permanent leave of absence? He should grovel before the House and receive a vote of: 'No confidence' for his behavior.
Good riddance and Good-bye!
Boys
First of all, he obviously has difficulty understanding right from wrong. Apparently some on this board do as well. He represents the US government and so we should expect a high degree of ethics and morality.
Your first mistake, putting requirements on people because you "think" it should be that way. The only moral and ethics the politicians have is if they get caught.
My opinion, call a spade a spade. Spoiled Jewish brat that only cares about the money. He is in his position because of the money he has access to and nothing about his morals got him there. Being a politician is all about hiding who you are. He unhid what he was hiding.
Oh Weeeener, please do not resign. You are making a wonderful poster boy for the Dimocrat party.
where weiner goes, so goes the weiner. nuff said
Philip,
there is a morality contract in place...there is even a morals and ethics board. What you think is wrong and disqualifying is not necessarily so.
Give him what NY needs, a long permanent leave. Get evaluated and map out a course of treatment? ROTFLMAO! Damn,the guy started digging a hole with a shovel and now he has the largest excavation company on planet Earth digging. NY don't give a rats a$$ who they elect ole Charlie is proof of that. Johnny said it best, down down down in a ring of fire the flames got higher.
Go read the sexts for yourself; these two seem to communicate on the junior-high level.
http://www.radaronline.com/photos/image/131380/2011/06/photos-rep-anthony-weiners-facebook-sexts-revealed
Mark-1219747
To alleviate your "fears," please be assured, as I had in my comment "I'd take the more capable person, which is almost always the one with a D after their name. Most of those with the R's are such hypocritical idiots they don't know what they said the previous week, even when it's on videotape." Notice the almost and most were even italicized for emphasis.
I'd long considered myself to be an Independent. That started changing during the Reagan worship of a moron and intensified during the 90's with all of the hypocritical crap the right-wing pulled on Clinton. I'd rather have a President getting head in the Oval than all of the hypocrites crying to impeach him while they were screwing their mistresses. Trying to legalize the discrimination against homosexuals while some of them were themselves involved in homosexual activities and affairs. Saying they were the party of "individual rights" while simultaneously trying to deny the American people of theirs.
The "wolf" right now is not in the White House. It's the morons that can't deal with a Democratic or Black President. They'd rather see the Nation go into further recession, maybe even a depression, rather than help do the right thing. They cry they want this. Obama agrees that sounds good. Oh NO! We can't do that! These idiots are claiming they didn't even support this or that and the effing cons believe them! THAT'S what makes us "libs" so mad. They're effing BLIND. And these teabaggers trying to wrap themselves in the Constitution don't even know what's in it.
I AM a Veteran and a Patriot. I am still more of an Independent than a "true" Democrat, but I've seen more crap that disgusts me from the R side than from the D side. I had joked here before about how I'm prejudiced against R's. Now I say with sincerity that that is not the case, because prejudice is an unwarranted dislike or hatred. My dislike is no longer unwarranted. It is genuine. But I'd still vote for a person rather than a party.
If Pelosi needs to go( I don't like her, but she hasn't broken the law), then Boehner definitely needs to go.
You can call Weiner a pervert all you want, many women/girls(including some under 18) send nude or racy pics of themselves to friends or potential boyfriends nowadays. Many women want guys who are well endowed and want to verify it beforehand. It's actually common place and becoming the norm. Sending a nude or racy pic by email or tweet, isn't as awful as some are portraying it.
Although I've never sent or taken any nude pics of myself(I'm shy), I don't judge others who do.
It's all of you who have hang ups over nakedness(and hung up over people doing so who aren't yourselves), that are the ones who need to take a hike.
I've known many women who looked 21 and over, who were under 18. If they are promiscous on their own, are you going to try and blame a guy for "corrupting their innocence"?
Before I got married, I made sure to start checking ID of the girls I went out with. In Costa Rica they graduate high school at 16 and are in college by 17.
I married a women 10 years younger than myself(she was 26 and I was 36 when we met). We never sent nude pics to each other, but I won't say that those who do are perverted.
Weiner never should have lied.
He just should have said it's not anyones business but his, his wife's, and whoever received the tweets/texts.
Sexting..... all the rage amongst.... AARP members!
http://www.aarp.org/relationships/love-sex/info-11-2009/sexting_not_just_for_kids.html
LOL.... no wonder grandpa is always walking around with a smile on his face these days! hahaha
Fedupwithfed, when I was 17, my government teacher encouraged my entire class to write to our legislators. Big @!$%#ing deal.
Nobody who represents us can have a high degree of ethics and morality, because that would disqualify that person from accurately representing us. Morality is a lie we all wish were true.
Toasty McGrath
" Big @!$%#ing deal."
I see you still can't spell.
It's too bad the Republicans do not know how to "man-up" when they have done something wrong as a public official. Nancy Pelosi has done nothing immorally wrong to resign, other than to be a deep thorn in the side of Republicans by getting a task done.
Xan'sMom
"I don't think being a sleazebag is confined to republicans and democrats. As far as I can tell, it just seems to be a human trait."
I think being a sleazebag is a prerequisite to being a politician. I could be wrong but don't know any that doesn't fit the description.
Too bad most do not get it.
It is not the fact tha Weiner sent the texts or the pics, it is the fact that he lied when caught and accused another of a felony act.
That in and of itself is a crime.
That is why he needs to be removed from public office.
Speaking of using the brain, Congressional pensions and health care for life are a fallacy.
Apparently, he's doing as he darn well pleases, the self-serving and cocky jackass. It's time ALL members of Congress developed a spine and acted on this as a body. Follow protocol, darnit!
You allow these nutcases to preen in front of the cameras following their extremely shoddy actions, and now this! Americans are sick of the infantile stupidity of congressional members--all at the expense of their constituents.
I see red when I think that this egotistical megalomaniac is paid with taxpayers money and receiving a wonderful health and retirement package to boot! I personally do not care if he's tight with Charles Schumer and the Clinton's. Get him out of there!
I didn't realize there were treatment programs for being an a**hole.
Oh really, Weiner is going to take a leave of absence and go into Rehab.
Weiner is "dust"---he still doesn't knows it yet; he is such a phony, probably believing all Americans still love him; and he will be back at his job!
The fact is; People such as Weiner, and others who have a perverted sexual addiction CANNOT be cured!---they are put in the category of "like" Pedophiles, who cannot be rehabilitated, either.
He'll have to take a massive amount of Anti-Depressants and therapy for the rest of his life to be somewhat of a tamed down, low testerone male who is a predator..
Poor Huma. She must be humiliated. This could be the first step to dumping this pathological liar and cheat.
Pres. Obama gave him the "boot"; that's the only way he would ever understand he's not needed anymore
So I guess nobody cares about my original comment. I guess I should have prepared for that but I will remind everyone that anybody who applies to Target (an example, there are countless more) Corporation has to take a GOVERNMENT MANDATED DRUG SCREENING, whereas our elected officials don't have to take one before, after or anytime during their time as one of the most important people in the country.
All I'm saying is if we REALLY have such high moral demands of our representatives that "weinergate" is such a mega huge deal, we should at least drug test them.
Am I right?
That Weiner needs a good whacking.
I'm confused. Some say Weiner acted like a dick. Others called him an ass.
I'm a little confused here.... People want him to resign because he is a Man and looks at porn and sends pics of himself? So... is every Man in the US gonna resign from their jobs, cause come on, that's what men do. If you say you don't look at porn and your a man, then your a hypocrite. I mean lets get serious here. What the guy does on his own time is none of my business, just as long as he does what he is supposed to do when he is on our time. People.. grow some and quit wining about the little stuff. Keep your eye on the big picture.
Michelle 1.2 - you failed to read or grasp this part of the post
Sleaze is not confined to any one party.
A once or twice done mistake is one thing - a pattern is another - there is no guarrantee that therapy will solve this, this can take years to resolve, and it is difficult to tell when someone is faking recovery. Addicted people usually know what they are doing is wrong - so they will do anything to appear normal and try to do anything to appear "normal".
He needsto resign - get provably well - then return.
Also, keep in mind what Major League Baseball players say. "There is nothing like being in the majors . . . you will do anything to stay or make it back.
The US Congress IS the big leagues.
"treatment" is just a BS word for laying low. This guy has to go. I love this quote "he didn't do anything indecent or unacceptable". LOL I think contacting a 17 year old, sending nude pictures to her, as a 45 year old Congressman is quite UNACCEPTABLE, how about you? Is the bar that low now? Are we that pathetic to think this is acceptable from our employee?, which Weiner is, he is OUR employee.
This happens in both parties, but usually the republicans empty the trash quicker, not always, but most of the time. Rangel who by the way should have been forced to resign already gives the republicans a heads up on this issue. Vitter from New Orleans visiting a prostitute, big deal, it's New Orleans. Lousiana and corruption are bed fellows. Weiner trolling for college girls is a whole different matter, and lying about being hacked IS A CRIME. He's brought shame o Congress, end of story. The longer he stays the worse it is for democrats, and if you think this thing is going away, it's not.
By refusing to resign, I'm sure he thinks he's following in the footsteps of his mentor - Bill Clinton. He's saying to himself "If Bill Clinton could just wait it out, so can I".
By the way - whatever happened to Monica Lewinsky"
The sexting doesn't matter. The sex in the Oval Office didn't matter. Hitting on other men in an airport restroom didn't matter. Lying about it does. It doesn't matter what party they belong to, proven liars should be immediately removed from positions of trust and authority.
Your taxpayer dollars at work. Millions in this country without health care insurance, but Weiner gets to take advantage of the elite insurance plan offered to Congress so that he can get treatment for being a sleaze.
Yeah, start with that Gingrich fellow.
Weiner,Pelosi,Reid,Dodd Frank, Rangel,Franklin,Jackson-Lee,the entire Black Caucus,(I thought "representatives" were elected to "represent" the best interests of all the people ,not to form racist cabals),the Progressive Caucus,(ditto with the radical socialists),the radical environmentalists,(ditto. ditto),Yes Dems, You best use some caution, once You start asking all those who have disgraced themselves to leave, You just might put Yourselves out of business.
Is 'getting treatment' the new way to be a Faux Christian?
You know, all the 'Christians' who want people to die and then go to church asking forgiveness, only to do the same thing the next week? Better yet, the 'ministers' who do the same thing?
Can I 'get treatment' for anything bad I do? Can I kill someone and go 'get treated?' How about not pay my taxes? Cheat on my wife?
The answer is yes! Thank you politicians for showing me that I have unnecessarily been acting 'morally.' Through your example, I now fully understand that these urges are beyond my control and I can do them, as long as I 'get treated,' afterwards.
Phew WHAT A RELIEF!
Darthfrodo, Gingrich isn't in a position of trust or authority right now....and hasn't been for quite some time. And hopefully won't be in the future.
The media portray Weiner as a "left-winger" but he really isn't. There are no real left wingers in office (no, not even that blow hard from Vermont, Bernie Sanders).
The "left wingers" you see on TV etc are designated leftists. They are to the left of the far right who are well represented in the corporate media.
Someone to left of Fox News or Ann Coulter is not necessarily a leftist because the middle is also to the left of those people (actually if this were pre WWII many avowed "conservatives" like Coulter would be proud and outspoken fascists)
Pre WWII (and pre Israel and the alliance between zionists and the Right-wing) can you imagine Ann Coulter and others of her political and social views NOT loving, Adolf Hitler and Mussolini?
So, he is getting treatment for a hard-on and being horny? Let me guess, more sugar in his diet, more GMO foods and more vaccines?? That should do it...
Oooh the congressman truly has a weiner,
that is what he wants the girls to see,
sending pictures of himself to them on twitter....
his job will pretty soon be history !
(sung to the tune of the Oscar Mayer jingle)
I have always leaned Republican, but what right does Nancy Pelosi have to tell anyone to do anything, she is one of the biggest wastes of air in congress. She got removed as speaker and still would not go away; she is the one that needs to resign.
There are a lot of people in DC (and in state governments) wasting good oxygen in both the executive and legislative branches of government.
Pretty much all of Congress and most of the politicians are a waste of air.
Nancy promised to "drain the swamp"; she is doing what she promised.
Kind of a paradox isn't it limelight? How can one waste air and produce so much hot air at the same time?
Nancy Pelosi has done more for America than most politicians and much more than lawline has done by voting for Republicans!
jmm-514122
Sleazy stunt = Potomac punt
Nancy, as my training sergeant endlessly chanted, "Just do it, right ***ken now!"
Tree Hugger... not sure what world you live in but one thing is clear it is not the REAL WORLD.... Nancy Pelosi is nothing but a self-serving glory hound...
The day she finally puts away her soap box will be a good day. Tree Hugger you are nothing short of laughable.
lawline, perhaps Ms Pelosi will be forced to resign after the next election...
When Pelosi and Reid took office in 2006, the first thing they did was to stop ANY program, except the Border Patrol, from keeping the Illegals OUT!!!! Next, they, together, RAIDED the U.S.Treasury as it had never been done before, putting America, now, about $14 TRILLION DOLLARS in debt, with no way to pay!!!!
They fight the House and Senate on EVERY Bill the Republicans try to get passed, and then blame the Republicans for not passing the Bill.
Now, if the Left, Pelosi, Reid, Obama, and Hillary had done so well, just how can you explain the Flood of Illegal, Prostitutes, Pimps, Gang Bangers, Murders, and drug Dealers flooding America against our CONSTITUTION, Art 4., Sect 4?
Yep, Pelosi aand reid did exactly what the Left want, they DESTRYOED America, and now try to blame the Right.
Collapse/delete, name call and lable me, but it is the Historical truth as to what the Left has done since 2006 and Pelosi and Reid.
Treehugger, go hug a Tree, because all you are doing here is embarrasing yourself with blatant, provable Lies, just as you, the Left, have done for generations.....
Nancy told everyone they have to buy health insurance and got away with it.
Nancy is a good Leader. She represents her base PERFECTLY as they would have it.
Those little black Gummi Bears in Fantasy Land are just very very enigmatic.
If Pelosi needs to go, Boehner(and about 2-3 others on the Rep side) definitely need to go as well.
If it's good for the goose..........
Everyone must go. Nobody on earth has the qualifications needed to be a political leader. Deep down we're all unelectable.
jmm-514122
"Nancy promised to "drain the swamp"; she is doing what she promised."
When she goes down the drain the swamp will be fixed.
Nancy is trying to safeguard the image of the Democratic party. She knows that this will hurt them even worse if he does not get out. Rangal could stay because the incidents were limited, and having a popular minority in a powerful position promotes the image the party they want.
I believe the appropriate term for Pelosi's actions are "situational ethics".
He won't resign. They will have to hogtie him and drag him out. As I mentioned elsewhere, he is amoral and self-centered. By his actions (after he fessed up--not the twitters to women) he clearly considers himself to be "too important" to leave congress. His last name certainly fits his (lack of) character.
His constituents will decide at the next election if he should be dismissed. This is not the general public's job nor Pelosi's or top Democrats.
Oh yes it is our business, aylortays; the congress works for all of us.
Here's the endgame of that aylortays: "As long as the individual supports my political viewpoint, who cares what he does?" That is the very essence of being amoral. That's how Teddy K, Rangel, Frank, et. al. stuck around.
May I add, screaming.
I hate to see him go, but go he must. Vitter should already have been gone. Weiner just pulled a weiner move. Stupid and regrettable. Vitter committed activities, including utilizing a whoe. Whether that should be legal or not is like weed; right or wrong, it is illegal.
There is a difference between degrees of error between these macho men's publicly known and proven, unacceptable actions.
(I really mean they shouldn't have allowed themselves to be caught)
Good one, SCUBAJim!
Still the Best Post of the Day, Kyle! But The Beev's is a close second!!
You've already been proven wrong. Good job.
All this makes me wonder why we don't love capital punishment.
Does anybody believe Weiner should be forgiven? Does anybody believe he should be in charge of anything from now on? Would anyone be sad if he committed suicide over this?
No? Then what's the point of living? Just kill him now. Why waste treatment on him? Everyone hates him, just kill him now. People like this can and should never recover. Just kill him now.
I just saw the Weiner Interview, where he took it on the chin, so to speak, and admitted his transgression and lie. He even apologized to Breitbart!!
He came across very contritely and accessible.
I give him credit there. and withdraw my above addition!
The lie is what really broke his wood. The trust is broken.
Oh, shut up, you sanctimonious twit.
In case you hadn't noticed, Congress doesn't work for ANY of us. They work for the corporate sponsors who pay the biggest bucks for them.
The really amusing part of this is that Dems don't want him to resign because what he did was imoral or because he used government equipment to phone some of these girls, they want him to resign because he gets in the way of their attack machine by sucking up all the airwaves.
Too funny and very indicative of the moral standard or lack thereof of the left.
Look at the positively illegal and self serving things some of their members have done, like Barney Franks prostitute ring run out of his basement, and they're not required to resign.
Hilarious!
One more thing, if Weiner can't be loyal to his wife and family, how can one expect him to be loyal to his constituents?
That's what the voters have to decide in 2012 and it will be interesting to watch what happens.
Rehab, counseling, and treatment. The last refuge of a scoundrel.
When will we as Americans go to the polls with blood in our eyes and vote all these scum-sucking vermon out of office.Yes,both parties need a good ENEMA!We,as a nation,need to become one mind,not left/right, and clean house.Who cares if our good ol boys and girls can't get us money and/or entitlements,they need to go,and go NOW!Look what this is becoming,and allready is! You can only fix this STUPID at the voting booth.So,go fix it!
Whip it good Weiner. Come join all us poor saps you and your merry band of idiots in congress have legislated out of work. Mac Donald's is hiring, but in your case I think operating your own hot dog stand peddling your wares to the babes on the beach is more up your alley. The "loaded foot-long" could be your best seller.
Great comment.
Hey Beev, let's talk about David Vitter!
Good God, Toasty...Shut the hell up about Vitters already. You've only talked about him on practically every post you've made. Is that the only argument you've got? It's just plain weak.
I am a Republican but I don't want people like Vitter in Congress either because he certainly doesn't represent my beliefs or values. I don't care how many times they apologize or seek "treatment". Unlike you, I want and expect my representatives to rise above the D.C. cesspool regardless of the party to which they might belong.
This entire article and, therefore, comments are SPECIFICALLY about Congressman Weiner and his actions.
Defend him if you want but I hope you can bring more to the table than your incessant whining about Vitters.
It's the only argument I need, Glo. You can't have the double standard of saying the one guy cheating on his wife must resign, but the convicted criminal shouldn't have to. I mean, I understand why you don't like me bringing it up; you have no answer for it. But you can't keep sticking your heads int he ground when someone points out your own hypocrisy.
And for the record, I not only think Vitter was right in not resigning, I also believe that prostitution should be legalized. I don't care about him, I care about the hypocritical response of the teabaggers to his actions.
Apparently YOU can't read. I clearly said Vitters needs to go. I don't have a double standard and you can't defend Weiner so you need to keep trying to change the conversation.
Thanks for playing.
Well, it's also for the benefit of the other readers.
And I shouldn't have to defend Wiener. The only person who has a right to be mad about this is his wife. It's a private matter.
Well, to both of you, Clinton set the bar that cheating on your wife does not impact your political career. It is not against your oath of office. If you actually look at what cheating on your spouse is..it is a CIVIL and not CRIMINAL action. There is no law against cheating in a civil union..it just violates the civil union.
Where were both of you when Clinton was getting oral gratification? Bi-Partisan politics are the worst thing to happen to this country. It causes you to lose your morals because it is the R and D you cheer for...not the man woman. It is like every post I make I am talking to children.
We don't vote for people based on their political careers. What do we remember Clinton for? Some vague "economy was good" thing? CRA, TARP, some other acronym he may or may not have anything to do with?
Presidents get credit for and are remembered by only the things that don't fall in the spectrum of their political control. Most of those things were either private or the fault of congress or a number of other unavoidable factors. The same goes for congressmen: when have we ever judged them retrospectivelybased on their political careers? Politics is not in the public consciousness. We don't understand it and we don't care about it; we just pretend that we do by substituting irrelevant topics that we do understand that have nothing to do with whether a person is actually fit to do a good job as a politician.
Toasty: Nice to try the blame game. Reminds me of the kid who whines to his parents who won't let him go to a party. "Well, Ronnie's parents let him go so why can't I?" Nice attempts at diversion, Vitter is bad and he's not being asked to resign. Then there was "I never had sex with that woman" liar-in-chief Clinton who also didn't resign. Either you're being wilfully obtuse or fail to grasp the situation. Weiner goes on camera and attempts to pass legislation against using the internet for inappropriate contacts with children. He claims the moral high ground in public and behind closed doors he's a perv. All of these stalwart politicians should have resigned since their actions bring shame to the office they were elected to hold.
Nice how you manage to toss in the teabagger meme again and again and again......Why are you so afraid of the tea party? Nevermind, I think I already know the answer to that one.
It's 'McDonald's', not "Mac Donald's' - friggin' moron.
Toasty: I'm sooooooo tired of your posts. Why don't you just state your opinion and then GO AWAY ?!
Why am I afraid of the tea party, MG? You really want to ask me that?
April 4, 2009—Neo-Nazi Richard Poplawski shoots and kills three police officers responding to a 911 call to his home in Pittsburgh. His friend Edward Perkovic tells reporters that Poplawski feared “the Obama gun ban that’s on its way” and “didn’t like our rights being infringed upon.” Perkovic also commented that Poplawski carried out the shooting because “if anyone tried to take his firearms, he was gonna’ stand by what his forefathers told him to do.”
June 10, 2009—James W. von Brunn, a convicted felon and a “hardcore Neo-Nazi,” walks into the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C. and shoots and kills a security guard. Von Brunn believed that Western civilization was going to be replaced with a “ONE WORLD ILLUMINATI GOVERNMENT” that would “confiscate private weapons” in order to accomplish its goals.
February 18, 2010—Joseph Stack of Austin, Texas, flies a single-engine plane into an office building containing nearly 200 IRS employees, killing one and wounding 13. In a suicide note, Stack lays out his grievances with the federal tax agency, stating, "The law 'requires' a signature on the bottom of a tax filing; yet no one can say truthfully that they understand what they are signing; if that's not 'duress' than what is. If this is not the measure of a totalitarian regime, nothing is ... Violence not only is the answer, it is the only answer."
March 19-22, 2010—During consideration of health care reform legislation by the U.S. House of Representatives, vandals attack Democratic offices in Pleasant Ridge, Ohio; Wichita, Kansas; Tuscon, Arizona; Niagra Falls, New York; and Rochester, New York. Mike Vanderboegh, the former leader of f the Alabama Constitutional Militia, takes credit for the violence after posting a blog on March 19 that states, "If we break the windows of hundreds, thousands, of Democratic party headquarters across this country, we might just make up enough of them to make defending ourselves at the muzzle of a rifle unnecessary." Several Democratic members receive death threats, including Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-NY), who is told snipers will "kill the children of the members who voted YES"; Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI), who receives a message saying, "You're dead; we know where you live; we'll get you"; and Rep. Betsy Markey (D-CO), whose staffer is told by a caller, "Better hope I don't run into you in a dark alley with a knife, a club or a gun." House Minority Leader John Boehner, speaking about Rep. Steve Driehaus (D-OH), says he "may be a dead man."
March 23, 2010—After Mike Troxel of the Lynchburg Tea Party and Nigel Coleman of the Danville Tea Party post the home address of the brother of Rep. Tom Perriello (D-VA) and urge supporters to "drop by," someone deliberately cuts a propane gas line at the house. Rep. Perriello is targeted by the Tea Party activists because of his vote in favor of health care reform. Perriello's brother and his wife have four children under the age of eight.
April 19, 2010—Pro-gun activists conduct two rallies in the Washington, D.C. area to demonstrate their opposition to an "oppressive, totalitarian government." Among the featured speakers at the events are current and former militia leaders and others with ties to extreme, anti-government groups. The choice of date is significant, as April 19 marks the anniversary of the first shots being fired in the American Revolution at the Battle of Lexington/Concord, the fiery conclusion to the 1993 siege at Waco, and the 1995 bombing of the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City by Timothy McVeigh. At the "Second Amendment March" in the District of Columbia, Larry Pratt, the Executive Director of Gun Owners of America, states, "We're in a war. The other side knows they are at war, because they started it. They are coming for our freedom, for our money, for our kids, for our property. They are coming for everything because they are a bunch of Socialists." Mike Vanderboegh, who made national headlines after taking credit for several instances of vandalism at Democratic offices following votes on health care reform legislation, is the featured speaker at a rally in Fort Hunt National Park in Virginia, where he tells attendees, "Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience ... This is what the other side doesn’t understand! We are doing backing up! Done! Not one more inch."
January 8, 2011—Jared Lee Loughner, 22, shoots U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ) and 19 others at a "Congress in Your Corner" event at a Safeway supermarket in Tucson, Arizona. He kills six, including federal judge John Roll, and wounds 14, including Giffords, who is shot in the head. Loughner has an extensive history of mental illness and substance abuse, yet is able to purchase two handguns and a high-capacity ammunition magazine legally at Sportsman's Warehouse on November 30, 2010. In a YouTube video posted in December 2010, Loughner states, "You don’t have to accept the federalist laws ... Nonetheless, read the United States of America’s Constitution to apprehend all of the current treasonous laws."
(Thanks to the awesome work of the CSVG) http://www.csgv.org/issues-and-campaigns/guns-democracy-and-freedom/insurrection-timeline
Nice that you get your quotes from an anti-gun website. Also nice that much of what is mentioned has nothing to do with the teaparty. Stack was an avowed liberal, McVeigh died before the teaparty ever existed, Loughner has been declared insane and his ramblings incoherent, pro-gun activists are not teaparty members in the sense that the original premise of the Taxed Enough Already party was about government spending being out-of-control.
Perhaps you could include the actions of the SDS, the Weathermen, the violent members of the 'green movement', the New Black Panthers, the contemporary members of radical socialist movements calling for the violent overthrow of the government, La Raza, Code Pink, and a host of other 'liberal' violence proponents in your selective biases.
MG, if you think that the Tea Parties are anything other than a renaming of the same ultra-conservative movement we've seen for decades, you're living in a fantasy world. It was literally just a name change invented to give the same movement a "grassroots" look when the insurance companies needed astroturf to oppose health care reform. These folks fit that whole continuum.
" Pelosi has asked the House Ethics Committee to investigate whether Weiner used any government resources. He has said he does not believe he did""
This is the same guy the could not recognize his own penis, with certitude. New Yorkers are such losers if they keep this "lawmaker" in office. Are you kidding us?
Who are you to call them losers?
Everyone has a vote. Use your vote the way you want. I'll use mine on my own w/o your opinion, thank you very much (and I live in CA, not NY).
"limelight"
I surely wouldn't BRAG about living in Calif.
Only Illinois and New York are in as bad a shape as you.
Patty, we would be in a lot better shape in NY if we didn't lose 20 cents off every dollar we sent the feds to other states getting back more than they put in.
Virginia, we pretty much support a lot of the rest of the country with the taxes we pay. Check out the size of the CA economy in comparison:
From Wikipedia: "California's economy is the eighth largest economy in the world[1], if the states of the U.S. were compared with other countries.[2][3] As of 2008, the gross state product (GSP) is about $1.85 trillion, which is 13% of the United States gross domestic product (GDP)."
VA has a decent tech center, but if deleted the FED-generted economy from VA, it would pale next to CA.
So, I'll keep on bragging about my home state. (Or perhaps you would like us to leave the union if we are such a drag on the rest of the country? Want to know what that would do to the US budget deficit?)
Seriously, it's states like California that keep the secessionists afloat.
Toasty, in what way?
Monetarily. I mean, I know for a fact that my teabag home of Arizona would be a third-world cesspool without California next door.
"limelight".........try again!
Hello.....you are quoting "2008 numbers"
It is 2011 and California is almost bankrupt because of the illegals and the MILLIONS being paid in Government employee pensions that were set up by Jerry Brown years ago!
Hey.....if you love it there.........."rock on" !
Current Virginia unemployment rate: 5.7%
Current California unemployment rate: 11.&%
"Virginia is awesome"
Patty-Virginia Beach
Maybe in part at least because the smart folks moved away from the shrinking mountains being raped by the coal companies and the others are too busy fornicating their siblings to file for unemployment?
Sorry Patty, so used to hearing the "hillbilly" and "southern trash" comments bandied about I had to let one go myself. ;)
"ScubaGolfJim"
You need to check your map.....and quit calling people "Hillbillies"
# 1.....you are talking about West Virginia Coal, NOT Virginia Beach! And those people work their azz off and also give their lives!
#2......you are a hateful person to call coal miners "southern trash"
#3.....YOU should go play Golf with NoBama!
AND..........Virginia unemployment is definitely 5.7%.....Where do you live, Nasty person?
Patty-Virginia Beach
Since you are not familiar with the ability to Copy/Paste, I will assume that you also do not understand the use of grammatical symbols and punctuation marks to convey meaning. A ;) combination is a "winking smiley," as if I were saying something to your face, usually in jest, with a "wink" to further acknowledge it being said in jest.
So, here we go. Welcome to class...
I was referring to the entire Commonwealth of Virginia, not just Virginia Beach. (You did know there was more to the state than just your city, right? I'd hate to be the one to further burst your bubble.) Mining in Virginia includes coal, slate, and gravel, as well as other ores and minerals. Over $2 billion worth in recent years. (So who needs to check their map? Or maybe just learn a little about the state in which they live?)
And yes, those miners do sometimes give their lives, usually when the mine owners take shortcuts and ignore OSHA Regulations designed to protect those miners. They deserve to be protected from the big businesses that take out their own life insurance policies (with the company as beneficiary) against the miners' lives when the miners themselves can't afford to pay for one themselves, and then kill them with their "oversight" on safety and security.
I wasn't calling coal miners "southern trash" but simply referring to the usual rhetoric directed at those of us living in true southern states. (BTW... 'that means 'By The Way' by the way' you're a hateful person for calling me a hateful person.)
"NoBama... War Eagle!" Isn't that a cheer at Auburn (as in No AlaBama. I really hate having to explain everything to you.)? BTW (see above for explanation) I would LOVE to play a round of golf with our President, Barack Obama. Might you want to go quail hunting with Dickyboy Chaingang? (That's Dick Cheney to you) Might want to wear face protection.
As I said, maybe the smart people left, because if you're an example of what's left, maybe the stereotypes are true. Say hi to your brother-husband for me. Or is that husband-brother? Not really like a sister-wife is it? I don't know, we don't really practice that in my southern state, people just like to say we do, usually in jest, and with a | ;) | wink.
Oh I'm such a Nasty person you even capitalized the word Nasty. Good for you. You learned how to use capital letters. Guess they were used on typewriters though, weren't they?
Patty-Virginia Beach One More Thing...
Patty-Virginia Beach..."try again!"
Which ones are YOU quoting? It's 6.1% in Virginia, since we're using numbers here. Since you're giving out numbers in your defense, please be accurate with them.
And yes, they've mis-identified Virginia and West Virginia on the map, but the numbers are accurately notated.
I thought he should've resigned for the lying(could've cared less about the pictures), but now I think the guy should stay just to give the finger to the rest of congress!
Hard at work even now, Weiner mustered his courage and is boning up on proper email etiquette just trying to catch up.....
Dude, if every politician who ever lied had to resign...
And let's face it, his lies weren't of a professional nature, they were on a private matter. HUGE difference.
Lying and getting caught in a lie are two different things. We can assume a politician is lying when their lips move, but we have to take it for the truth unless they are caught in a lie.
Not only was Weiner caught in a lie but falsely accusing someone else of a crime is not something to take lightly.
Keep grasping at straws, GTF. And while you're at it, please explain why nobody demanded David Vitter resign.
Weiner, Vitter, and Pelosi, plus any elected official caught lying to the public (who they are supposedly representing) need to resign. If they do not have morals and honor they should at least be able to fake it for the time they are in office. If they cannot at least pretend to (have morals/honor) while "serving" they do NOT need to be in office. If they do not resign then we need to remove them and if anything they have done would be prosecuted if it was a normal American citizen then they also need to be prosecuted.
Actually any elected representative, assigned Supreme court justice found not "... preserving, protecting and defending the Constitution of the United States" as per the Oath of Office they all take should be fired; and weakening the Constitution is NOT doing what they can to (as is the first and most important part of their job, which is why it is in the Oath they take) "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
How many times you gonna bring up Vitter Toasty? Two wrongs don't make a right. I know you are smarter than that. You also bring up this Craig guy, is he the one that was accused of sticking his foot in the other guys stall? What was ge guilty of being homosexual? or maybe attemting to solicit sex? I just don't understand how you defend Weiner by crying about others mistakes..This is about Weiner and not about keeping score of republican and democratic scandels. (I am not anti-gay for the record I was making a point about your lack of fairness in your posts)
Until I get these teabaggers to admit to their double standard.
David Vitter and Larry Craig both committed crimes (although I think that neither should actually be crimes), while Wiener did not, yet somehow only he should be forced to resign. I honestly think that none of the three should resign or have resigned. The lack of fairness is in other peoples' views.
It's not just about Vitter, the philandering "family values" US Senator from Louisiana. It's about how it's OK if you are a Republican.
It just doesn't matter whether it's prostitutes, Lying us into a war over non-existent WMD, exposing CIA operatives, or the $700 Billion TARP scam give-away to investment bankers.
Let's just face it, the GOP sh*t doesn't stink, at least according to any Republican or Teabagger. Just ask them!
Good enough Toasty I see what you are saying although you and I may not posess the higher standards that people expect from their elected leaders. I think the left and right are guilty of double standards though.
I hold my elected leaders to high professional standards, but I have no right to judge their private life. Only the people close to them have that right.
Then when he was "exposed" and lied to the world it became a public matter because we found out he did not live up to those standards. I just don't get why you don't see that. This is the world we live in now and if your ducks are not in a row you will be accountable otherwise don't go into public office taking our money. I can't say why this Vitter guy is still in office myself although I admit I never really followed it closely..just another self-righteous conservative, I guess I just assumed he would voluntarily vacate the office. Oh and his name wasn't Weiner..damn the bad luck lol
You're acting as if it's a politician's choice to go into office. What if Weiner didn't start this until after he was elected? If we have made it so that it's completely unpredictable to elect a person that won't perform a scandal, then there is something wrong with either the way we choose and mold our elected officials, or there is something foolish about our expectations.
PC - Do you thing Thomas Jefferson was incapable of being a good politician and doing what is right for our nation, then? He lied many times about his relationship with a woman to whom he was not married, who fathered his children, and who was his slave. The big point here, as it was with Clinton or JFK or any of the many, many politicians who have participated in sexual indiscretions, is that what they do with their penises has nothing to do with their abilities as governing officials, so long as they were not breaking the law and so long as they are not using tax payers to finance it. Not sure why we're all so damn afraid of sex in this country, but we all spend too much time obsessing about what fellow citizens are doing in the bedroom.
finally, but I wonder, what's the next shoe to drop to push Pelosi and Wasserman Schultz to this point? can't be anything good.
Prolly not a shoe... prolly a gold sequined thong... ; )
Gross!
The next shoe is the minors that weiner sexted coming forward with their stories and the following criminal charges. Look at how the police answered the question regarding the 17yr old they "interviewed":
"Authorities said the teen didn't say anything about illegal conduct."
"The teen has been interviewed and disclosed no information regarding any criminal activity."
It's like they didn't even question her about anything specifically.... she didn't "say" anything or "disclose" anything.... nevermind that we didn't ask.
Once the girl gets her lawyers and publicists and paid interviews established then she will have plenty to say.
Once again, PJ, where is the evidence? I could accuse you of inappropriate relations with an underaged girl, and I've have just as much proof as you do about Wiener. I mean, there are a lot of things I could just pull out of thin air and accuse you of with the same amount of evidence.
In fact. PJ, I accuse you of being Hitler's robot attack clone. Now, you haven't specifically disclosed anything either way, but you know what? I'm going to go with it anyway because it's fun.
Why do you keep bringing up Pelosi? Is there some sexual wink wink nudge nudge that everyone's aware of in that direction? Cause I'm not. Is it because she was a speaker of the house? Well, Boehner's the speaker now, AND he has a sexually suggestive name. Even though I've never heard of Boehner doing this kind of thing, should I look to him for the next political scandal?
Yes, PJ. You're starting to verge on libel here by insisting that he has engaged underage girls in sexual activities. You are smearing the reputation of the girl, who was a fan of Weiner's because of his politics, and you are perpetuating a lie only because it suits your paradigm.
Toasty: Your idea of 'fun' is calling someone a nazi? Figures. Go support Weiner some more, we now understand where you're coming from.
Not just any Nazi. The cyborg reincarnation of HITLER HIMSELF! Of course, I have just as much evidence to support that accusation as he had about the seventeen year old, but still...
Sending x-rated photos to under age girl, if I did this I would go to jail see the judge and have to register as a sex offender, but everything is A ok because he a congressman
So he above the laws? next I bet we find out he also a tax cheat
Key words: "If I did this." Wiener didn't.
Weiner didn't do a lot of stuff until he was found out and then he confessed. Seems he is one of those who expresses remorse AFTER the fact of getting caught. Think if he hadn't been found out that he would have quit with the pics and sexting? As to improper conduct with a minor, time will tell, Clinton denied his cigar moments with Monica until the little blue dress. Perhaps the teenagers haven't come forward just yet, who knows for certain but generally when someone engages in certain immoral behaviours the odds are their involvements are more intense than first supposed.
Sending x-rated photos to under age girl, if I did this I would go to jail see the judge and have to register as a sex offender, but everything is A ok because he a congressman
It was PG-17 or R, but the fact he lied was his undoing. And if he texted his undies shot, or not, to a 17 year old while married, he is not the guy I want speaking up for 'what is right'. Which, come to think of it, describes most every politician from Bushbama down to Weiner.
Again, you guys keep on using the "IF" argument. There are a lot of things he coule be in trouble for IF he did them. IF he, say, vandalized Air Force One. IF he killed and ate a jewish baby. IF he stole the Space Shuttle and hid it in his volcano island hideout. If we talked about all the "IF" scenarios in the world, we'd never get any sleep. There is NO evidence to support any of those accusations, including that he sent pics to an underaged girl. You just pulled it out of your ass and hoped nobody would call you on it.
They should treat these guys just like law enforcement or teachers. Suspend them with or without pay until the investigation is complete. No telling how long this idiot has been doing this or what kind of pictures will surface next or who will come forward with more of this guys wierdo actions. Also if he hadn't lied he should be reinstated if found innocent after the investigation, or put on trial if evidence of a crime has occurred. The lie will be his undoing once the FBI comes forward and says they began an investigation into the alleged hacking of his files. If the FBI doesn't come forward then there should be some resignations from that department because they aren't doing there job.
The Democrats are validating they are cowards. They are trampling on Weiner's freedom of expression because, HE DID NOT BREAK ANY LAWS.
Now they are the "Moral Police". They need to address the issues the GOP is screwing the Country on and, not side with the GOP about Weiner.
These top Democrats are allowing the GOP to run their show. This Country might as well have ONE PARTY...GOP and be done with it.
How do you spell gutless cowards..D E M O C R A T S.
Good, Bad, Stupid, or Ugly the GOP always stand by their people!
Take off the blinders Cathee. Republicans tend to show their lowlife the door rather quickly. Democrats (most recently "good time Charlie" Rangel) don't bother with shame and guilt. (BTW: I am libertarian and I believe both parties stink it up!)
Clearly you're delusional. The Dems are many things, almost none good, but they circle the wagons around their trash far more effectively than the Repubs. Else how to explain the continued presence of Bill Clinton, as a revered elder statesman, Charlie "tax cheat" Rangel, Barney "brothel in my basement" Frank, Nancy "funnel government contracts to my hubby" Pelosi, et al.
lmao.....stoddard dont hold back any!
@KJ
I don't belong to any party because IMO they all have an odoriferous miasma, including the Libertarians. It's P O L I T I C S.
They are all ran by IMPERFECT PEOPLE give me a break and get off of your High Horse and take your blinders off.
Weiner did not break any LAWS!!! He is NOT a CRIMINAL. The Oath he took was to defend the Constitution it did not include
"...and I will not Tweet Pictures of myself in my underwear"
@stoddard
Learn the difference between the law and Moral BS, which you are talking about. I am talking about the LAW
Cathee, I don't know what your political agenda is here, but calling all Democrats "gutless cowards" because they want Weiner gone is ridiculous. At this point, just about everybody wants Weiner gone, except Weiner himself and perhaps the Republicans who want to use him for a human dart board in the upcoming elections. Not ALL Republicans--it's really childish to lump all the members of a political party together like you are doing.
I support you fully Cathee, all Weiner was doing was giving all liberal women chances to be good subjects and serve the greater good by clicking send on their sexy photos.. How is this wrong? It also isnt illegal to post naked photos so over 40k people can view, thats just progressivism ..
Never mind the pregnant wife at home, mm sounds like liberals and the mid east have more in common than we first thought..
I do believe it will be considered illegal if he texted his naked privates to minors. Just guessing.
("the great"?!? Ok...)
Weiner's issue isn't the pictures, it was the BS he spewed after the revelations broke. His has lost credibility - we can't trust what he says. If he had come clean, then I would agree with you, no laws broken, just REALLy stupid and he has some sorting to do with his wife. But, when he goes on the offensive saying his account was hacked, the need to hire a private investigative team, .., well I draw the line there. That was VERY poor judgement.
Cathee, Cathee, Cathee. Even when you rant (seated quite squarely on a high horse of your own) you make my point. I am not a registered anything politically. As a libertarian I believe in personal responsibility and generosity. To the one given much, much is expected. Each scandal on the left or right shows the amoral character of those in power. If they can't be trusted to do the right thing personally, they certainly don't deserve to hold any kind of power over the American people.
It was stupid. I don't think he has a lot of sorting do with his wife, since she already knew about the women before and after their one year marriage. I don't really blame him for "lying" for one whole week about this. It is really embarrassing and I believe that a lot of people, if not most, would react to being outed like that to the whole world with denials and excuses. No one wants their family, friends and peers so see something so embarrassing. Most men after they cheat, look at porn on the internet, or hit on a girl at the bar would lie about it. I think it is so easy to judge others and make excuses for ourselves. This is all just a distraction from real issues.
@Risha
You are right, his wife knew before the wedding and still married him. Yes he was embarrassed for himself, his wife and the party.
He did not break any laws. It seems very hard for some people to grasp that concept. His Constituents still support him because he is doing a good job for them.
How many Constituents of his follow Congressmen can or have said they are doing a good job for their districts?
All I ever hear are Complains from the Constituents of these very people on Weiners ass, asking him to resign.
100% a distraction from the REAL IMPORTANT issues about our Country!
Two words: David Vitter.
Oh, and another two words: Larry Craig.
Here's looking at you, KJ.
cathee - It's ok for you to change your tune and admit that Weiner is a loser, dirtbag. I know it's confusing when something like this forces Dems to acknowledge the stupidity of other Dems, but by following Pelosi's call for Weiner to resign you are still following your "leaders" and so are still a good sheep for them.
Toasty! You're obsessed with Vitter! What gives? This story is about Weiner!
Risha's got it exactly right, Cathee's got it 95% right. Weiner didn't break any laws or violate his oath o0f office by e-mailing lewd pictures of himself to women (with the possible exception of that sweet innocent little 17 year old girl. Lord knows, she most likely has never seen the likes of that and must be protected at all costs, even if that means that her mother is forced to sever her internet connection!!) But Weiner DOES need to go. Has it has been stated here and there, he lied about it when caught. As Risha said, every one of you (me included) would try to lie your way out of it. The difference is he's a Congressman. By demonstrating that he's quite willing to lie, even though he did nothing illegal (with that one possible exception), he has totally forfeited any trust that the people who elected him had in him. The situation between him and his wife is not a legal one, and is exactly that...a situation between him and his wife. As such, that is none of your business any more than the marital situation between you and your spouse is his. I don't think I can state it any more obviously or clearer than that. Anyone who can't understand it is purely politically motivated and totally partisan in their attacks.
Not Vitter so much as the teabaggers' lack of reaction to him. Truth be told, I couldn't care less that he went to a prostitute. Hell, I think prostitution should be legal.
But the very same people who today are demanding that Anthony Wiener resign over a minor marital infidelity are the ones who were SILENT when Vitter committed an actual crime. That's the point I keep bringing up, and the point that the teabaggers almost invariably refuse to address.
And as I've said before, there is no evidence whatsoever that suggests that Wiener said anything inappropriate to the 17-year-old. Hell, she herself said that nothing happened.
Toasty, I wouldn't call it a minor marital fidelity but I do agree with you about Vitter and the 17 - year old.
You mean the exchange with a 17 year old that has no evidence of inappropriate conduct? I could accuse people of all sorts of things if I could do it without anyone demanding evidence to support it. Hell, I outright accused PJ earlier of being an Adolf Hitler Robot Clone, and I have just as much evidence to defend that accusation as he does about the teenager.
Stoddard-3464911
Clearly you're delusional. The Dems are many things, almost none good, but they circle the wagons around their trash far more effectively than the Repubs. Else how to explain the continued presence of Bill Clinton, as a revered elder statesman, Charlie "tax cheat" Rangel, Barney "brothel in my basement" Frank, Nancy "funnel government contracts to my hubby" Pelosi, et al.
One of the best comments ever.
Toasty, I hear what you are saying. But why dramatize it? Innocent until proven guilty and all he is guilty of is breaking a civil union. From my experience in America males either cheat on their spouse or TRY to cheat on them in almost every relationship. It is what it is...a civil thing. We all break promises. If you kick out a politician because he breaks a promise..then we have no politicians. Now if he was decimating in some 17 yr old's digestive track that is completely different and criminal. Remember it has to be under legal age because Clinton proved you can do that and lie about it under oath and it is ok.
Why dramatize it? Because it's Saturday.
Look, everyone's attacking Wiener for what is a minor scandal at best, and I'm just putting things into perspective.
Rep Weiner should stay. If Piglosi, Pat Leahy & D. W. Schultz say you should go - you obviously must stay. Leahy leaked secret US documents, Piglosi has stolen from the taxpayor so that her family could party on US planes and Schultz is a dimm-witted blabbermouth who can barely find her way to the House chamber. Weiner should stay - unless he shared pictures of the little head with underage girls.
I agree, I most surly want him to stay! Are you kidding he will be the poster boy for the next election! It will make for a very lively campaign!
Exactly why I want him in there. The gift that keeps on giving.
There is a lot of gift giving between BOTH Parties! Kinda sorta like the Dems would LOVE to See Sarah Run!
Could be made into a Card Came or Trading Cards...
Yes, why not let both parties run themselves and this country into the ground? That way, we can ensure that they will all be unelectable next cycle. Hey, maybe we will break a record on the low end of voter participation. Maybe then someone from out of state (out of all states) can come in to show us how leading is really done. I'll bet it has something to do with executing all dissenters and consolidating all public power into one post.
It's Good to Be the King!
He needs to go. It's not about pictures, it's about the deeper character flaws and consistent lousy judgement, that have been revealed.
That will be up to his constituents at election time, not now.
Oh Please! Let him stay for the election.....Please please!
Normally i would agree with you but the lying and the insinuating that someone else was responsible for his actions makes me wonder if he is capable of being responsible enough and accountable to be a congressman. The lack of ethics in his handling of the issue calls into play his ability to handle issues for his constituents and the country.
Jollyoldsoul, now you know how I feel about Sarah Palin. For one thing, I would love to watch a few more Tina Fey skits on Saturday Night Live. Making fun of the human Weiner is in the same category--it's such an easy target. Maybe they could combine both of them in the same skit.
aylortays, while I agree that constituents ultimately make the decision, the damage he's doing to the credibility of the Party isn't worth it.
I hear Palin loves Weiner.
Potential Democratic fundraiser slogan for this cycle:
"At least our sickos don't have to pay for it. Now that's what you call fiscal responsibility!"
Liberals are scared to death of Palin - otherwise they wouldn't bring her into every conversation. Face it - she could only do better than the empty suit we have in the WH right now who has decided to stop getting daily economic briefings. Guess he got tired of hearing that his Keynesian approach wasn't working - just like it didn't work for FDR.
Maybe they just want you to believe they are scared of her, so you guys will actually nominate her.
I'll admit it. I've fostered those thoughts - the entertainment to be gained by having Palin as the nominee. But then I think whoever the Republicans nominate might actually get to the White House, and I feel guilty about craving the entertainment.
Paul - whoever the Repubs nominate will get to the WH - Nov 2010 was just the start of people waking up to this POTUS. Nov 2012 the Senate goes to the Repubs along with about 20 House Seats. 0ne term 0bama gets sent back to Chicago to do what he does best - community organize for Rahmbo. (and probably play golf and hoops with us footing the bill)
kcstrawberryblond--It looks to me you just described the characteristics of most politicians, left, right or in the middle. Actually the Weiner business makes the news quite lively. It certainly diverts the attention from unemployment, war, deficits, etc. etc.
black_belt3
No, not scared of her, scared about her. That so many people regard this stuitch as a reasonable or semi-intelligent person scares us.
Cons like to send out those emails about a person using a cash register to return a customer's change and "can't make change without it, and remember they can vote." Many cons are too damn stupid themselves to see that they're trying to nominate someone they don't think should be able to vote, except that she's also white. And they still claim that doesn't make a difference. Yeah, right.
Two words, BB: Kathy Hochel.
So yes, by all means, 2012, baby!
scuba.....keep thinking your smarter than them. Thats the attitude that keep us Independents center to right! You do realize your the minority.....Dont you? Us Independents will elect the next president!
They say that about every election, JOS, and every time they're proven wrong.
jollyoldsoul1
scuba.....keep thinking your smarter than them. Thats the attitude that keep us Independents center to right! You do realize your the minority.....Dont you? Us Independents will elect the next president!
Welcome to class...
Scuba (notice capitalization)... Keep (again, but may be considered optional in this case) thinking you're (notice correct word usage for 'you are' rather than possessiveness) smarter than them. That's (notice proper word use, again) the attitude that keep us Independents center to right! (Independents change from Center-Left to Center-Right depending on whether or not the sun is shining.) You do realize you're (do I have to explain it again?) the minority.....(72 million registered Democrats, 55 million registered Republicans, 42 million registered Independents in 2004. 42% to 32% to 25%. And 42% is the minority? Check your math again.) Don't (Really, correct word use again?) you? We (correct grammar use) Independents will elect the next president! (As they did the last one, and the previous one, and the one before that, and so on, and so on... Since they're the ones that sway both ways)
Yes, it matters.
keep thinking your smarter than (you) - PROVEN
I just LOVE some less than intelligent individual that claims to be an Independent when every word out of their mouth and every word they type proves otherwise.
Next...
SKyou'reThat'syou'reminorityDon'tWe?
LMAO......Didnt take much to pull that guy out! A good sniper knows how to get his target out in the open! Proven my aZZ!
jollyoldsoul1
Typical con. Faced with the facts, you still deny and project. Loser.
The morals today are in the toilet. A 46 year old acting like a hormonal teenager gone amuck! HE SHOULD RESIGN.
Uh, Robin? Get with the times. Consenting adults sending naughty pictures over the internet isn't exactly a "moral panic." I know several couples that do it to keep things spiced up in their relationship.
Robin, spelling today is in the same condition as morals - as you put it, "in the toilet" I think the word you meant is amok.
Three words:
Senator David Vitter.
An active member of the US Senate, re-elected after it his name was found in the list of the DC Madame as an active customer of DC prostitutes. He admitted as much on TV with his poor disgraced wife standing reluctantly ar his side. What an @sshole. But, it's OK if you are a Republican, IOKIYAR.
They can do anything they want. They can betray their country by lying us into wars over non-existent WMD, they can steal the country blind to the tune of $700 Billion in TARP funds for Wall Street investment banks, they can even hire prostitutes all the while espousing "family values" and they don't have to resign, go to prison or even explain who is behind the closed doors for Cheney's Energy Task Force.
If Vitter resigns then Weiner should too, but not until.
I don't think he should resign , he does work for his constituents he has fought the GOP very well on many issues.
If he is FORCED to leave then so should Vitter, Christie and Boehners alleged affairs should be looked into,
Newt should not be allowed to run and Palin should have to stay out of public until all of her emails are thoroughly looked at.
This is the GOP push, nothing more
That has to be the most moronic statement I've ever seen. Both of these people are private citizens and hold no public office at present. Sarah Palin hasn't even thrown her hat in the ring yet and Newt Gingrich from what I can tell in going down in flames already.
Next perhaps we should start telling the rest of the American public that we can't persue our interests unless we are vetted as it were.
But Kathy, Wiener was acting as a private citizen when he did this. Why the double standard?
Oh duh... The double standard is because Newt and Palin are republicans, and Wiener is a democrat.
When the GOP/TP calls for Vitter and Coburn to resign, then they can call for Weiner to resign, and not before.
It's about time these disgraceful perverts are removed from office. All of you in Washington SHOULD have started with Clinton, but hopefully you will continue to rid yourselves and the American public of this scum until every last one is gone and disgraced.
Dude, sending naughty pictures over the internet isn't perverted. It's just a normal thing people do these days. Try moving into the 21st century, man.
Way to go, Weiner! Hang out! - If you got it , flaunt it!
As toasty proves the liberal mind is completely void of dignity, responsibility, or reality.
PJ, I know plenty of couples who send each other naughty pics. It's just a way they spice up their sex lives. Are you really saying that anyone who does that is devoid of dignity, responsibility, and reality?
Really Toasty? You are missing the real points here..he didn't send them to his wife he secretly had virtual affairs behind his wifes back which clearly makes him a cheat, he has admitted this. He also went public and lied for days about what he did thinking he could weasel his way out of this. Now he is saying he is seeking treatment, treatment for what? Toasty even you must admit that this guy is irresponsible, undignified and not facing reality. For the good of his own party he should consider stepping down. Would you accept this behaviour from your spouse if you had or have one? He accepted a position that requires certain morals and dignity and he crossed the line..simple
Marital infidelity isn't a crime, PC. And quite frankly, it's none of our business. This is between him and his wife, and has nothing to do with his professional life.
Not until he accidently made it public and he is a public figure. He is in a public office does he not have standards? Why all the fuss then?
He clearly wasn't acting in an official capacity, so his actions were as a private citizen.
Toasty is exactly right PC101. Nothing about what Weiner did is a crime, and is nobody's business but his wife's. Why all the fuss? you ask. Not what you want it to be, I'm afraid. The fuss is (or is to the smart people anyway) over the fact that when he was caught, he tried to lie his way out of it by trying to blame someone else for his own actions (a 'hacker' did it!) I'm not really blaming you for your inability to see this because I fully understand that lying and blaming your actions on others is standard everyday business as usual for politicians these days. This tends to 'blend right into the forest' for most people such as yourself, while 'sex scandal' (gasp) grabs you right by the nose and pulls you in. Here's a perfect example. Sending tasteless pictures is NOT a sex scandal, sex crime, or remotely illegal, but it sure did rope you in didn't it. Yet, not a word about the REAL crime here, lying during an investigation by trying to blame it on somebody else (Obstruction of Justice). This is what Toasty has been trying to get across throughout this entire thread. It isn't HIM who has the double standards here.
An apology for PC101. I noticed in your comment before the one I commented on that you DID, in fact, mention that Weiner lied. But I do stand by my comment that that is the ONLY illegal thing that he did (Obstruction of Justice). In fact, it occured to me that there might not even have BEEN an 'investigation' had he not gotten it started by lying and intentionally pointing the investigators in the wrong direction. But nobody cares about that, it's the 'dirty pictures' that draws in the crowd.
steel toed boot - You are a rational and honest person, thanks for realising what I am saying. What he tweets and to who is not my business but this guy showed poor judgement so many times that he has lost credibility for the position he holds. I am vary open minded about sex matters but I do not share them over the internet..oops maybe I just did lol I also want to point out that Toasty tends to be predjudiced in his political views and was somewhat twisting things to fit his agenda. Not that he does not have that right because he does but I will call him on it when he does because he is more intelligent than most people on here and I feel he sometimes manipulates the conversation to fit his political agenda. I guess I would ask you is only one illgegal thing allowed (obstruction of justice) as you posted or is it a three strike kinda thing? For the record not even sure if he is guilty of obstruction of justice.
Hi PC101. I do agree with you as far as Weiner's character. Morally, I consider him slime if only for how this must feel for his wife, both emotionally and as far as embarrassment public and private. I could not imagine putting my wife through something like this. I would have the 'good taste' to at least divorce her before trolling for babes on the internet. Without a wife, I would consider him pitifully desperate to send out lewd pictures of himself. But as far as politically, it was his lying that concerns me, though such a poor and immature quality of judgement would also concern me as a person who may someday have to abide by laws that he votes for. Why men in his position with his prestigious job, money and benefits have to troll the internet for girls, pay for prostitutes, etc. never ceases to amaze me. It HAS to be a character flaw, even if it's just an "I am a born loser with women" attitude. Well, so much for Weiner.
As far as Toasty, I suspect you're right, but only because we're all prejudiced in our political views, myself included. But I won't twist things to fit my agenda. Democrat, Republican, Tea Bagger, Libertarian, Independent, Socialist, whatever, If s/he's wrong, I'll say s/he's wrong, but I won't stretch the truth to try to make it so or convince others to think like me. I sense that you wouldn't either. I think what Toasty has been trying to do is say the same thing by bluntly making a point. He's not so much twisting things to fit his agenda as he is trying to punctuate how others are. Further up this vine, I called him on repeatedly invoking Vitter at everybody incorrectly calling Weiner a 'sex deviate' who must be thrown out of office. In other words, why all the fuss about Weiner when they never peeped a word on Vitter. One could say Toasty was trying to divert attention away from Weiner. I think what he was saying was "If Weiner, then why not Vitter?" That's my stand exactly, a pig is a pig no matter how he's dressed or what he's labeled, R, D, I, L, whatever. As far as their morals, that's no my real political concern. I alway said I could happily sit down to dinner with a professional killer, because I know he's there to kill me. But to have dinner with someone who pretends to be my friend but will stab me in the back afterwards would make me sick. If a politician told me the truth, and I voted for him, that's my own fault. If a politician lies to me, and I vote for him, and he does the opposite of what he said he was going to do, then we have a problem. Unfortunately, they ALL lie. All you really have to go on is what they've done in the past (their record, if they have one) and hope that all that lobby money doesn't change their votes.
I'm getting carried away here. Sometimes the end justifies the means. So in that case, whatever you have to do, whatever you have to say he did, he's a proven liar holding office, and whatever it takes to get him removed, so be it. I just wish all the others who should be removed would get equal treatment, not some get protected because of how many 'friends' they have or how important they are to their political party or how the 'other party' might gain control of that seat if they're removed.
Toasty McGrath:
Toast'em, Toasty! - Burn 'em out!
Rep. Weiner should do whats best for himself, his family, his constituents, and congress and step down immediately.
I can't say that I know what is best for his constituents; that should be their choice at election time.
@ David Levin -- His constituents are backing him en masse, so I don't think it would be best for them. And as far as Democrats go, he's one of the few that stands up to the GOP and doesn't let them dictate what he should or shouldn't be supporting. As far as him twittering his junk, that is behavior that is done by a lot of people. As far as him lying about it, that's how regular people would react if they got caught. But regular people wouldn't be on the front page of MSNBC.com. I personally think he represents the citizens of this country more than the other scumbags in office. JMO
Johnny that is where you are wrong. I am not a Republican and would never want someone like him to represent me after finding out about his real character.
At this point, constituents or not, he should at least have some respect for his family and especially his pregnant wife and figure out a way to get the heck out of the limelight. On one hand he was selected by the constituents in his district and if they want him to continue representing them then fine but what he's putting his famility thru and the damage he's done to his own ability to get things done. Oh well, after a few years Ted Kennedy was back after his little indiscretion.
The poor, sick guy needs the $$$ that comes with the job. He won't quit without some huge donor or Dem stakeholder offering him a parachute full of cash that may include a job to save face. He's got huge bills to pay and appears to be overextended (no pun intended) already. His wife makes a very nice salary but that could be the last straw to the marriage....Her, the hard-working pregnant wife supporting him and his tweeting and deviant photo devices.
Normally when a man is engaging in conversation with a female and exposes himself, it is viewed as offensive and indecent. In many places, unsolicited, explicit photos of genitalia are deemed illegal pornography and stalking.
However, this is a Liberal, and the majority of those who elected him are unable to see anything he has done as showing rash behavior and a massive lack of judgment. It seems they are content with the fact he could have, or may have been blackmailed by a hostile government.
And then of course, the National Security implications are enormous in that he has caused psychological damage to a top aid of the Secretary of State while they are on delicate Diplomatic Missions with countries whose cooperation and good will are essential.
You mean to tell me no one has sent you suggestive language or photo's is your computer life that boring? You know what they thy say about all work and no computer play.........
Wow.....Victoria! As a Chief Network engineer for a global corp...... I want to know what kind of porn you have on your computer? And if your busy later LoL!
Gosh Victoria... no, I don't know what they say... and I'm trying to envision what kind of pics and language you think I should have received... Please forward whatever you feel will most graphically illustrate your positions ; )
Victoria - Send something my way..oh wait I need to get permission from my wife first..lol
Victoria.....Are you Anthony Weiner dressed as Victoria ? You are a sneeky little perv.
why did I think this horrible man was going AWAY? If not, Congress really need to show some spine and 'out him!' what the devil is going on--it's going from bad to worse and he won't resign? Shame him publicly (not that he hasn't done that already) and fire him, darnit!
Where is there not a public outcry on all that is wrong with government leaders? It's sickening and I for not do not care to allow my taxes to pay Weiner from the public trough ever again.
dark t shirts...i am growing increasingly frustrated with your lack of progress...
I grow an angry God at your pathetic futile attempts to stop the inevitable.
allow wiener his job. And mercy from the lord and saviour will surely be given to you.
I want Weiner to stay - any influence he had is long gone and he will be the gift that keeps on giving to the GOP!
This man must leave office to avoid staining the Democratic Party's unsoiled and noble repu....uhh...er......well...This Man violated the Democratic Party's Code of Con...errr, well, actually his behavior has been pretty normal for a male politician--of either party--hasn't it?
sarcastically..."How can it be wrong when Mr. Clinton's was worse?"..and he stayed in office.
sarcastically..."How can it be wrong when Mr. Ted Kennedy's was worse"..and he stayed in office.
Clinton and Kennedy actually had friends - Weiner is so obnoxious and annoying he has no friends - except for possibly his wife. That is why Clinton & Kennedy got away with their shennanigans. It was also a different era and the Senate knew that if they removed Clinton we would be stuck with the blowhard algore.
I'll say it again...Three words:
Senator David Vitter.
An active member of the US Senate, re-elected after it his name was found in the phone list of the DC Madame as an active customer of DC prostitutes.
But, it's OK if you are a Republican, IOKIYAR.
They can do anything they want. They can betray their country by lying us into wars over WMD, they can steal the country blind to the tune of $700 Billion in TARP funds for Wall Street investment banks, they can even hire prostitutes all the while espousing "family values" and they don't have to resign, go to prison or even explain who is behind the closed doors for Cheney's Energy Task Force.
If Vitter resigns then Weiner should too, but not until.
Geez Vitter would you please resign so Weinergate can come to a close? It is the only thing that will satisfy the left an eye for an eye..right out of the liberal Bible. Oh wait then what about Rangle? hahaha
Didn't Pelosi and other Democrats get the memo? 56% of the people who voted Wiener into office said he used bad judgment and lied, but his actions broke no laws, and he has been doing a fine job representing their interests and causes, so he should stay.
Who the heck is Pelosi? Oh yes, this is the same Pelosi who hijacked Obama's domestic agenda and forced Harry Reid to play along, costing the Dems control of the House. Now Obama has to try and win not only the White House in 2012, but all the seats Pelosi caused to be lost. Pelosi is a loser! She is the one who should resign for costing the Dems control of the House. Go away Nancy story!
Now that's a real progressive liberal right there!
Piglosi did exactly what 0bama wanted her to do - that is why he is 0ne term 0bama!
Ever hear of Kathy Hochel, BB?
What the hell are you thinking Debbie? Anthony's numbers are higher now than when he was elected. He has the strongest voice in the congress and I personally don't want to see him go.
You Democrats can be so damn stupid, no wonder you're in trouble when you eat your own kind to boost your own political careers.
Well, democrats never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
His Rabbi is gonna give him a second circumcision ! OOOOOOOuch !. 1 inch dog ! hold the mustard , add the relish.
HaHaHa I think his wife might do the second circumcision. With pleasure.
What's the problem liberals? Hard to stand by your man now that it's found out he's been communicating with a 17 y/o junior in high school?
Hey, sleeze knows no political distinctions - lord knows the "stiff necks" (i.e., "conservatives") sure have their share in the sleeze pot.
Uh, the conversations he had with the 17 year old turned out to be completely innocent.
Now let's talk about David Vitter.
No party holds a lock on being sleazy - it is just the Dems that are taking advantage of showing us how sleazy they are - things are circular - it all comes and goes (pun intended) Just whatever it takes to make sure the current POTUS is 0ne term 0bama.
You know, I feel I should reiterate it just so people don't think that Certs was telling the truth. The contact with the 17 year old was found to be completely innocent.
Yes, let's check US Senator David Vitter's Twitter account. The recently re-elected self-admitted whore monger and best customer of the DC Madame should have some juicy tidbits to share with all of us. But, it's OK if you are a Republican. Just ask John Ensign.
For all the politicians...you cannot tell someone to resign, do the same, and then refuse to resign yourself. There cannot be two standards here, it must be the same for all. What Weiner did verbally and with photos does not stoop to the level of Ensign or Vitter but it does say something about power and attitudes toward women. And I understand why Pelosi and Wasserman-Schultz say he should go. If he doesn't, redistricting will likely do that for them.
From the start, Weiner's been cocky about the whole situation.
How about Senator David Vitter? I hear he is real standup guy. Now that's something you can hang your hat on.
Just ask the DC Madame, he's one of her favorite customers of all time.
How about Vitter? Well he didn't make the same headlines I guess but let's just agree he should step down. Now then what about Weiner? Maybe Weiner should not have held so many arrogant press conferences and interviews lying to the world. Maybe he cooked his own hot dog.
amen, i think a seperation is needed here. weiner from his weiner
What took them so long? Is it the exchange with the teenager? Is there more news in the pipeline we don't know yet? If the intention was to cut the guy loose, why give your opponents a political football to kick in your face for two plus weeks?
And why defy the constituency that seems to want him to stay in office?
Inexplicable.
I have yet to see any woman or minor make a complaint about anything. If one occurs he should go. As of now there is no indication, proof, or anybody's statement that any minor received any obscene pictures, despite FOXnews and the rights attempt to make it seem there has been. Anything between consenting adults is their business, and his wifes. His districts constituents should make the call, not everyone else.
well said desktop
Baloney any politician with a high level security clearance should never put him/herself in a position such as this to be blackmailed. They are in a strong position to compromise the security of the country. So, not too well said, desktop!
Oh No
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. WOW! I can do it too!
Oh, and WELL SAID DESKTOP!!! Just like RLD719 & Oh No both stated. I'm sorry Oh No, did I take that out of context?
This guy is a typical Dem on the gravy train, he won't quit. Not, until he finds a way to keep as many benefits as possible.
Had to give an edit, which makes it a much more nonpartisan and wholly true and accurate statement.
Term Limits would help resolve this issues immensely, if not immediately.
I can think of a few Republicans who had far worse scandals and didn't quit... so I really don't know where your going with this.
At least Weiner can say hes staying so he can fight for the middle class, and for the people... thats something almost no Republican can claim. All a Republican could say is "I'm staying to make sure the rich get richer, and that we screw the middle class out of everything to pay for it".
Agreed, John S.
There needs to be a level of accountability SOMEWhere in the Land of Lobby Money! How can we trust them when they lie so often? Nearly ALL of them.
Remember, most DC Pols were Lawyers first.
Give me a break. When a Republican does something like this, most posters on here don't reply non-partisan. There is pointing, dancing and ridiculing.